I was planning on getting a Cybertruck, and had been on their waiting list for years. But then last Spring Tesla opened their Superchargers to Ford, and I bought a Lightning about a week later. Funny ... I also have the same A2Z adapter, which fits PERFECT in the driver's door pocket. 🙂
I've heard from people that own both and they said that they prefer the Lightning, so I think both of us made the right choice :-) I just got back from my trip and what's funny about the adapter is that I received the Ford adapter randomly out of the blue while I was gone.
I had a cybertruck reservation too and test drove one a couple months ago but ended up getting a lightning flash 2 weeks ago. The lightning is a better deal and has a nicer interior with better all around visibility. I’m real happy with my choice.
What is the actual miles per Kw? I charge my Tesla X to 80%, drive until less than 30%. I charge back to 80% and miles divided by Kw added are 2.6 miles per Kw. The trip counter always shows about 10% better but True miles are topping back up an dividing
Let me give you some additional information as a five-time Tesla owner. Unless you have an LFP (lithium ion phosphate) battery in your truck, you really should only charge up to 80% because that extra amount over 80 take so much longer to reach. On the other side, you should try to reach a supercharger with a less than 10% in the battery. The charging curve is at its highest/fastest at that range. Teslas normally have a 25 to 30 mile buffer once you reach zero state of charge. Not sure if Ford does the same thing. So, when I road trip I usually stop for 15-20 minutes, tops for each charge and move on. Hope this info helps.
Mach-E owner here. The screen UI/Interface looks the same and I believe the app is the same as well. You will want to set your charge limit to only your home and leave your everywhere charge limit to 100%. That way when you are home it charges to whatever limit you set but anytime you are anywhere else it always goes to 100%.
Just got my Tesla adapter last Friday. I'm going to test sport mode again here man. She is getting thirsty as the weather is cooling down! 48 KWH for 108 km the other day, lol. Mostly wind related and driving through a lot of water. Thanks for posting the road trip here.
Glad the video was helpful. Let me know how the Sport Mode test goes! Turn off pro power when you are not using it too and that saves a little on range.
@@F150LightningMike It's going well this time. It changes something with the thermals for efficiency in the cold for sure I'd say. My bluetooth OBD2 reader quit, so I can't tell what that is right now. Anyways 33 KWH return trip commute yesterday and I have been in the 40s for a while for charging top up.
I talk a little more about it on Part 3 and Part 4 of my trip. Here’s the video for part 3: What if Your Tesla Adapter Doesn't Work? - Ford Lightning - Part 3 - 2700 mile-Tesla Supercharger Roadtrip th-cam.com/video/qiCkVX2NyP4/w-d-xo.html
I think sport works better for efficiency in colder weather. Managed 30 kwh/100 km on the commute back today and I've not managed that since the end of summer. Seemed the same as normal mode in the summer, but I think there is something different with the thermal management for winter in sport. It seems to help, I'm going to keep the testing up here. I've been sitting at 35 to 40+ kwh per 100 km for about a month now with the highway commute in normal.
Couple questions. What average speeds are you driving? And the “one time charge” limit should be able to do right in the screen under charging. And I watch a few more minutes and it appears you figured it out. 😁
I was driving the speed limit which average anywhere from 45 all the way to 75. Most of the time it was probably 65. The cool thing is is that I have my truck set to match the speed limit signs so it will automatically adjust for me when I hit a small town and it all the sudden drops and then I’ll speed back up right on time so it actually works out pretty well. As far as the charge limit, I had somebody else comment about that too and I knew about the setting in the truck. I just had a brain fart. I guess driving does that to you? :-)
@ it does. I’m 51 so I call it a senior moment. 🤣 I had that speed match thing on but I don’t like how it really hits the brakes hard when it sees lower speeds. I’ve done some updates since I tried it last (I have a yearly sub to fdrs) maybe I’ll try it again to see if it’s any better. Great video by the way.
Im curious why folks with EVs need to go to a fast charger. Do they not have access to plugs at gome? Do they drive more than 100 miles per day? As a non EV owner im curious.
Road trips like this one. Or long drives of several hundred miles away from home. In that case, fast chargers work just like gas stations. They give you a place to top off.
Completely agree with the other replies, but want to add one more possibility and that is if you're renting or in an apartment, you might need to supercharge because you don't have the possibility of charging from home.
I’m sorry to hear that. What are the issues that you have been having? I did receive a recall notice on the front sensors, but so many people have had their truck bricked when they get that fixed. I’m not planning on bringing mine in for that unless my sensors aren’t working. Which is what the recall said that you only need to have it done if they’re not working.
@ if you don’t get those sensor fixed, then you’re gonna have a bigger problem. I got mine fixed and haven’t had a problem since then I actually can’t say the issues that I’ve had other than the one I just said because I signed an NDA with Ford.
The way the lightling 'boosts' for charging speed for first 10ish minutes at each charge stop. It probably was faster to make that second stop. Only thing that would have been faster was making first charge stop shorter
I think you can set one time charge limit 100% in the truck in the Charging settings. This threw me too when they made that change. Edit: I see that you found it at your next stop!
Yeah it was a little weird when recording the video. I decided to leave it in to show my experience, but I go to try to find it and got distracted by trying to figure the app out that I totally forgot about the settings in the truck. I knew about it, it was just a total brain fart :-)
The Chevy Silverado gives you miles gained using regenerative braking. For instance while on an 80 mile road trip last week on I95 with an average speed of 69mph for the trip regen added 18 miles to my range. That was all highway travel.
V2 dispensers cannot communicate with CCS vehicles due to hardware limitations. Most V3 sites are open to selected CCS brands. All V3.5 sites are open to selected CCS brands. All V3 and V3.5 sites will convert to J3400 compliance down the road as other CPO's build out their J3400 sites. NACS will be abandoned with the exception to V2 sites but they will eventually be pulled from service as time goes on. V2 sites can be identified by the silver band on the dispenser handle.
Good info. yes that’s correct. You can only use version three and above chargers. The older version two chargers are not available. You’ll see on a future road trip video that I did make the mistake of trying to use a version 2 charger. :-(
It’s anywhere from 145kw to 176kw depending on what move the charging station is in that day :-) It slows down of course after you hit 80% And it’s pretty consistent after it hits 70% that I will start seeing it slow down a little bit where by the time it gets to 79% right before it hits 80% it’s about 120
Most of the stations it’s $.47/kwh but if you sign up for a membership on the cost is .36/kwh. You can also start a membership and stop anytime you want so it’ll save you a little bit of money as you’re going on the trip and then stop it after you’re done.
8:46 those are stalls are pull-ins designed for Tesla's that have their charge port on the drivers rear. Your shouldn't use them since you are sticking out into lanes.
Agreed that makes sense … but it was late when I got there and no other EVs pulled in the whole time and the only way for me to pull in and charge at a different stall would have been blocking 2 if not 3 spots. This was a weird one. Thanks for watching.
I was planning on getting a Cybertruck, and had been on their waiting list for years. But then last Spring Tesla opened their Superchargers to Ford, and I bought a Lightning about a week later. Funny ... I also have the same A2Z adapter, which fits PERFECT in the driver's door pocket. 🙂
I've heard from people that own both and they said that they prefer the Lightning, so I think both of us made the right choice :-) I just got back from my trip and what's funny about the adapter is that I received the Ford adapter randomly out of the blue while I was gone.
Well done you made the better choice.
I had a cybertruck reservation too and test drove one a couple months ago but ended up getting a lightning flash 2 weeks ago. The lightning is a better deal and has a nicer interior with better all around visibility. I’m real happy with my choice.
Did you get the Supercharger membership for the month of the trip?
What is the actual miles per Kw?
I charge my Tesla X to 80%, drive until less than 30%. I charge back to 80% and miles divided by Kw added are 2.6 miles per Kw.
The trip counter always shows about 10% better but True miles are topping back up an dividing
Let me give you some additional information as a five-time Tesla owner. Unless you have an LFP (lithium ion phosphate) battery in your truck, you really should only charge up to 80% because that extra amount over 80 take so much longer to reach. On the other side, you should try to reach a supercharger with a less than 10% in the battery. The charging curve is at its highest/fastest at that range. Teslas normally have a 25 to 30 mile buffer once you reach zero state of charge. Not sure if Ford does the same thing. So, when I road trip I usually stop for 15-20 minutes, tops for each charge and move on. Hope this info helps.
Great thoughts and advice thank you. I’ll give your ideas a try on my next road trip.
Mach-E owner here. The screen UI/Interface looks the same and I believe the app is the same as well. You will want to set your charge limit to only your home and leave your everywhere charge limit to 100%. That way when you are home it charges to whatever limit you set but anytime you are anywhere else it always goes to 100%.
That’s a great idea. Thank you.
If you have a Pro or XLT it's a 12" screen. I have an XLT.
Just got my Tesla adapter last Friday. I'm going to test sport mode again here man. She is getting thirsty as the weather is cooling down! 48 KWH for 108 km the other day, lol. Mostly wind related and driving through a lot of water. Thanks for posting the road trip here.
Glad the video was helpful. Let me know how the Sport Mode test goes! Turn off pro power when you are not using it too and that saves a little on range.
@@F150LightningMike It's going well this time. It changes something with the thermals for efficiency in the cold for sure I'd say. My bluetooth OBD2 reader quit, so I can't tell what that is right now. Anyways 33 KWH return trip commute yesterday and I have been in the 40s for a while for charging top up.
That seems like a big difference.
Hey Mike, what app do you use to plan your trip since ford got rid of the mad in its app?
I talk a little more about it on Part 3 and Part 4 of my trip. Here’s the video for part 3: What if Your Tesla Adapter Doesn't Work? - Ford Lightning - Part 3 - 2700 mile-Tesla Supercharger Roadtrip
th-cam.com/video/qiCkVX2NyP4/w-d-xo.html
I think sport works better for efficiency in colder weather. Managed 30 kwh/100 km on the commute back today and I've not managed that since the end of summer. Seemed the same as normal mode in the summer, but I think there is something different with the thermal management for winter in sport. It seems to help, I'm going to keep the testing up here. I've been sitting at 35 to 40+ kwh per 100 km for about a month now with the highway commute in normal.
That’s a good thought. I haven’t thought about that.
Couple questions. What average speeds are you driving? And the “one time charge” limit should be able to do right in the screen under charging. And I watch a few more minutes and it appears you figured it out. 😁
I was driving the speed limit which average anywhere from 45 all the way to 75. Most of the time it was probably 65. The cool thing is is that I have my truck set to match the speed limit signs so it will automatically adjust for me when I hit a small town and it all the sudden drops and then I’ll speed back up right on time so it actually works out pretty well. As far as the charge limit, I had somebody else comment about that too and I knew about the setting in the truck. I just had a brain fart. I guess driving does that to you? :-)
@ it does. I’m 51 so I call it a senior moment. 🤣 I had that speed match thing on but I don’t like how it really hits the brakes hard when it sees lower speeds. I’ve done some updates since I tried it last (I have a yearly sub to fdrs) maybe I’ll try it again to see if it’s any better. Great video by the way.
Thank you. Yeah Ive had it read random speed limits on side roads too, but its not that often.
Great info, "Keep on trucking"
Thank you. Will do!
How fast where u driving? I usually drive between Houston and Dallas doing 75 mph. I can get about 225 miles
I think my average was about 65, but there were some spots that were up to 75. I’ve found that the best range on the highway is between 65-70.
@@adrianevans9170 speed kills range especially on a truck with brick aerodynamics.
That's true!
Im curious why folks with EVs need to go to a fast charger. Do they not have access to plugs at gome? Do they drive more than 100 miles per day? As a non EV owner im curious.
He’s going on a road trip
Road trips like this one. Or long drives of several hundred miles away from home. In that case, fast chargers work just like gas stations. They give you a place to top off.
They are correct usually fast chargers are used only on road trips most of the rest of the time people charge at home.
Completely agree with the other replies, but want to add one more possibility and that is if you're renting or in an apartment, you might need to supercharge because you don't have the possibility of charging from home.
Good point. That would be another reason.
My lightning has been to the dealership 6 times, all for different issues in the past two months.
I’m sorry to hear that. What are the issues that you have been having? I did receive a recall notice on the front sensors, but so many people have had their truck bricked when they get that fixed. I’m not planning on bringing mine in for that unless my sensors aren’t working. Which is what the recall said that you only need to have it done if they’re not working.
@ if you don’t get those sensor fixed, then you’re gonna have a bigger problem. I got mine fixed and haven’t had a problem since then I actually can’t say the issues that I’ve had other than the one I just said because I signed an NDA with Ford.
Good to know about the sensor issue. I will talk to the dealership about it. That's interesting on the NDA, hopefully everything is good to go now.
Can you tell us what model year? Was it a 2024?
@@EngineerHarris Yup
The way the lightling 'boosts' for charging speed for first 10ish minutes at each charge stop. It probably was faster to make that second stop. Only thing that would have been faster was making first charge stop shorter
That’s a great point!
I think you can set one time charge limit 100% in the truck in the Charging settings. This threw me too when they made that change.
Edit: I see that you found it at your next stop!
Yeah it was a little weird when recording the video. I decided to leave it in to show my experience, but I go to try to find it and got distracted by trying to figure the app out that I totally forgot about the settings in the truck. I knew about it, it was just a total brain fart :-)
What is the impact of regenerative braking on your range??
Helps more in city stop and go driving.
The Chevy Silverado gives you miles gained using regenerative braking. For instance while on an 80 mile road trip last week on I95 with an average speed of 69mph for the trip regen added 18 miles to my range. That was all highway travel.
@@kelviskelvis7140 not bad. Tesla does similarly.
Yeah I don’t see that on the Ford, but that would be nice. I know that since I use sport mode and driving through the mountains it would be a lot.
Can you now charge at the older Tesla superchargers
V2 dispensers cannot communicate with CCS vehicles due to hardware limitations. Most V3 sites are open to selected CCS brands. All V3.5 sites are open to selected CCS brands. All V3 and V3.5 sites will convert to J3400 compliance down the road as other CPO's build out their J3400 sites. NACS will be abandoned with the exception to V2 sites but they will eventually be pulled from service as time goes on. V2 sites can be identified by the silver band on the dispenser handle.
Good info. yes that’s correct. You can only use version three and above chargers. The older version two chargers are not available. You’ll see on a future road trip video that I did make the mistake of trying to use a version 2 charger. :-(
I got my Tesla adapter today! How about you? Fred in the Redwoods
Yep it finally came in while I was gone on my trip. I haven’t tried it yet but I should be able to soon.
What were your charge rates in kWh ??
It’s anywhere from 145kw to 176kw depending on what move the charging station is in that day :-)
It slows down of course after you hit 80% And it’s pretty consistent after it hits 70% that I will start seeing it slow down a little bit where by the time it gets to 79% right before it hits 80% it’s about 120
@ wow!! Those speeds are impressive.
Yeah, the truck limits it to about 176. The highest Ive seen it at Electrify America was at 178
How much does Tesla charge Ford owners?
Most of the stations it’s $.47/kwh but if you sign up for a membership on the cost is .36/kwh.
You can also start a membership and stop anytime you want so it’ll save you a little bit of money as you’re going on the trip and then stop it after you’re done.
I found they are near the other CPO prices.
Sounds about right.
8:46 those are stalls are pull-ins designed for Tesla's that have their charge port on the drivers rear. Your shouldn't use them since you are sticking out into lanes.
Agreed that makes sense … but it was late when I got there and no other EVs pulled in the whole time and the only way for me to pull in and charge at a different stall would have been blocking 2 if not 3 spots. This was a weird one. Thanks for watching.