Great find! 2007 was the last year of Civilian Crown Victoria sales. The overhead counsol I believe is only for the compass (older cars it was also your garage door opener) which can be enabled in the cluster if a person wanted it. (I would have to check the wiring diagrams to see if it needed any wiring modifications) The early 2003 to mid 2005 had the better sun visors (could be optioned with dual visors and the double lit vanity mirrors.) I personally have the hourmeter turned on my 2010 Town Car. As for hvac issue it could be the blend door but in my experience it's either the vacuum motor or the o-rings in the control which can cause issues as well. Blend doors tend to fail stuck in one position or another, Ford systems default to defrost when they loose control or vacuum for safety purposes.
@MechaNuts I seen one on a local Saskatchewan dealer lot in 2008, when I enquired about it I was told that it was specially ordered and the purchaser backed out leaving the dealer to sell it. Generally though 2008 and newer couldn't be purchased by civilians only through fleet and government agencies. The LX was produced through to the end but was sold to rental agencies like Hertz, Budget... If you were really good friends with a fleet manager you might have jerryrigged one but Ford corporate came down hard if they found anyone selling them to the public. The goto line was look at that pretty 500 ( later the Taurus ) and if you had to have a Panther there was the Grand Marquis. They actually banned the dealers from stocking Town Cars here in Canada starting in 2008 but could still be especially ordered if you really wanted one.
That's strange because I know someone has 2008 P-73 right hand only exhaust car with the upper engine cover and factory alloy wheels that is not a police interceptor or taxi cab.....💁♂️
I’m jealous. You did great on that purchase. Here in NJ you would be looking at $5,000 asking price if not more. It’s a keeper. Love your panther content.
Thats NOT a blend door actuator...I just did one on my 08. Its the controller in the dash...its a oring issue that can be fixed for pennies. Just remove the digital/vacuum controller from the dash, disassemble and replace the orings in the actuactors.
@@OldeCarrGuy Ill be doing the same job on mine asap. Did the blend door actuator last month and now im having the swapping from def/floor to dash vents issue when im on the accelerator. It only gets worse... and quickly too.... You lucked out on that vic for a "northern car" or in your case "hella northern car" as im in Alabama US. I paid 3500 for mine with 138k. However it was Bought from an original owner 82yo man with a booklet of meticulous maintenance records, and has lived its life in a garage in alabama...It doesnt even have rust on the exhaust,lol. Regardless id pay 1500 for yours any day. Great buy!!!
Hi brother. Looks like you got a real good deal for her. I have an 07 GM GS. When you mention the blend door actuator possibility going out, it put me in mind of a 00 GM I owned years ago with the same issue. My mouth dropped when I saw the dashboard removed with the exposed firewall. My GM just keeps trucking along. I hope yours does as well.
Anytime you have any car up in the air, check for up and down play at your wheels to see if you have axle bearing play and top off your differential oil
She's a beaute Clark. Needs an OCG brand hi-po intake manifold 😉 The rust looks easy enough to get out in front of and should do the household just fine for years to come!
In Ontario, they seem to be priced lower than what you were throwing out. Thats just from searching marketplace. 2011's are liated at $5000. It's worth whatever somebody will pay for it! 😂
I love those Panther cars! My family owned two 1st gen Panthers a 1984 FORD LTD Crown Victoria and a 1991 refresh LTD Crown Victoria with the rounded off sharp edges. Both were great cars. I wish I had them now in the same condition they were in when we had them back in the 1990s. Great video, I think my next car will be a Panther.
Blend door actuators in these cars only function is temperature change, sounds like you have an issue with the digital climate control itself or a broken vent door in your heater core allowing you to change the airflow direction. Sucks, I had no blend door actuator in mine, it had been removed but not replaced, and a stuck vent door on the core, broken a/c system too. Manual climate control works tho, replaced the blend door as well.
I would say no Crown Victoria is junk. Not even those that look like they've been thru the ringer and are coming apart. I have a 2010 police interceptor model that has over 187,000 miles and is still in excellent running condition.
i got a 2009 crown vic, payed 2k it had 177k miles and 8 years later it is still going strong, only put in 30k miles so far it is at 208k now, very low maintenance
The Climate Control has 4 o-rings and when they wear out it causes it to only blow out the Defrost. I did one of mine and bought the o-rings at Home Depot and works great. You have to take out the climate control and take apart. At first thought it would be a hard job but after the first o-ring it was fairly simple.
Love these cars. I got a 2010 interceptor myself, and had to do some work on it, but of all the vehicles I've owned over the years this is my favorite. And it all started with my '94 MGM
I love my 2005 Crown Victoria LX with only 74,000 miles, and being a New Mexico car there is not one speck of rust anywhere and no oxidation build up on the motor! My 2004 LX had the blend door issue too, @FordTechMakuloco has a video on rebuilding the climate control module and That fixed the issue, a vacuum leak in the unit!
I got mine posted on there and it runs grate I started at 4k its down to 2400$ and I haven't gotten anymore people messing me about it. Mine is a police interceptor.
I don't understand why you don't just trade the exhaust completely from one car to the other? It's always easier to sell a car with a stock exhaust than something that's modified anyways. When you try and sell a car with any major modifications you narrow your spectrum of potential buyers because you have to find that specific type of person who is already interested in that type of modification in the first place. 🤷♂️
Brother! Its all good! If someone doesn’t like the exhaust I’ll offer to change it If the money is right. Besides, I just don’t want to do the work twice unnecessarily if someone actually does want the Magnaflow exhaust after I changed it back!
Thats not the blend door actuator. I've had a couple of them fail. They have nothing to do with which vent the air comes out of. The blend door actuator is what controls the position of the door that mixes hot air from the heater with cold air from the A/C. The actual actuator is a plastic box about the size of an 8 track tape (anybody remember those? I do) with a small 12V motor and plastic gears in it. The gears will strip out, and make weird clicking/clunking noises, and the air from the vents will go full hot. They are almost impossible to replace without removing most of the dash, but you can rig them in one position, either full hot or full A/C, by removing the passenger airbag, grinding the end of a 20" piece of rebar into a chisel, reaching in through the airbag opening, and breaking the corners off the actuator box and moving it out of the way. You can then jam the door into whichever position you want it. Living in Phoenix, AZ, I put mine in full A/C position. We don't need heat here.
I live in eastern Europe.....i want one.....in the summer when im on vacation in the Usa im gonna buy one drive it across country and then ship it to Romania.....over here a good one is 10k so even with tax and shipping it'll be 4k.....cant wait to buy one.....ill fix it up and put it next to my Bmw 7 series in the garage!!!ill look for a Lincoln or Mercury but the Ford is also great.I also have 88 560sec.Old cars are the best.....i prefer deiving the merc but if i have a long road im afraid to take it....something usually breaks:)))
Btw there are a lot of overpriced Fords out there.....to take a 2k car and flip it for 5k.....its not gonna happen.....no one will pay that maybe you put 500-1000$ over what you paid after a detaling but if you look the same overpriced cars are for sale for half a year maybe more....people who buy these cars are either poor and dont have enough cash or have a couple of cars and know what they do just like me.Youll never make me pay more than its worth usually people loose money on old cars.....the guys who have the cars on sale for months usually sell them for less than what they would have gotten if they asked for a fair price from the beggining.A car thats rare like a Porsche Bmw or Jaguar limited run cars sure will increase in the future but not a Ford thats built in millions of units.People say the market is crashing when in reality its only getting closer to theyre real values.
Love those cars, I had a 2008 police interceptor, and it was such a fun car to drive, sure not insane amount of horsepower but just something about the crown vics will always get a grin out of me when regular people have one.
One question I have on the manual swap Crown Vic if it came out of a GT500 how do they use an up 3650 which has the remote Mount shifter and doesn't use a slip yoke it uses the bolt on drive shaft , unless it's just a Mustang GT 01-04 transmission
@@OldeCarrGuy well if the shifter mounts directly on the transmission and uses a traditional slip yoke then it probably came out of an 01 to 04 Mustang as the 05 up has the remote Mount shifter and that weird bolt on drive shaft if it is a 3650 and not a T45
@OldeCarrGuy all you have to do is take a look it would be pretty obvious plus all 05 to 2010 tr3650 don't have a clutch fork they went to hydraulic throwout bearing instead of cable shift
I doubt it's junk after driving a super rusted 93 Crown Vic i bought for $100 when I was 18 that was so neglected that one of the cam followers had popped off and it shuddered really bad until a compression test found the dead cylinder with the non functioning intake valve and new trans filter and fresh fluid. Still burned a ton of oil but I drove it like that for two years before I eventually sold it. Now I have lots of rust free Panthers that run perfect. Whatever can go wrong with one can be fixed.
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My mom had one of these growing up. Stellar car, and very nostalgic for me.
Them panther vids will definitely run up some views. I love it and I’m here for every upgrade you do keep up the great vids
Thanks Curby
Great find!
2007 was the last year of Civilian Crown Victoria sales.
The overhead counsol I believe is only for the compass (older cars it was also your garage door opener) which can be enabled in the cluster if a person wanted it. (I would have to check the wiring diagrams to see if it needed any wiring modifications)
The early 2003 to mid 2005 had the better sun visors (could be optioned with dual visors and the double lit vanity mirrors.)
I personally have the hourmeter turned on my 2010 Town Car.
As for hvac issue it could be the blend door but in my experience it's either the vacuum motor or the o-rings in the control which can cause issues as well.
Blend doors tend to fail stuck in one position or another, Ford systems default to defrost when they loose control or vacuum for safety purposes.
A wealth of knowledge as always! Thank you!
08 bud...I own one
@MechaNuts I seen one on a local Saskatchewan dealer lot in 2008, when I enquired about it I was told that it was specially ordered and the purchaser backed out leaving the dealer to sell it.
Generally though 2008 and newer couldn't be purchased by civilians only through fleet and government agencies.
The LX was produced through to the end but was sold to rental agencies like Hertz, Budget...
If you were really good friends with a fleet manager you might have jerryrigged one but Ford corporate came down hard if they found anyone selling them to the public.
The goto line was look at that pretty 500 ( later the Taurus ) and if you had to have a Panther there was the Grand Marquis.
They actually banned the dealers from stocking Town Cars here in Canada starting in 2008 but could still be especially ordered if you really wanted one.
That's strange because I know someone has 2008 P-73 right hand only exhaust car with the upper engine cover and factory alloy wheels that is not a police interceptor or taxi cab.....💁♂️
Not really a Ford guy but that one is in good shape for the shape it's in.
I thought so!
I had an 04 P71, loved it
I have an 07 and an 09 P71
I’m jealous. You did great on that purchase. Here in NJ you would be looking at $5,000 asking price if not more. It’s a keeper. Love your panther content.
Thanks Walter
@@OldeCarrGuy Yes! Keep up the Panther content :)
YOU BETTER KEEP IT JASON! She's a keeper!😎
Oh definitely! Mama said so!
Cool! Panthers brought me here.👍✌
lol There’s lots here and lots to come!
blend door controls temperature only. Check the orings on the vacuum harness on the back of the eatc
Got it
Thats NOT a blend door actuator...I just did one on my 08. Its the controller in the dash...its a oring issue that can be fixed for pennies. Just remove the digital/vacuum controller from the dash, disassemble and replace the orings in the actuactors.
I’ll definitely try that! Thanks for sharing!
@@OldeCarrGuy Ill be doing the same job on mine asap. Did the blend door actuator last month and now im having the swapping from def/floor to dash vents issue when im on the accelerator. It only gets worse... and quickly too.... You lucked out on that vic for a "northern car" or in your case "hella northern car" as im in Alabama US. I paid 3500 for mine with 138k. However it was Bought from an original owner 82yo man with a booklet of meticulous maintenance records, and has lived its life in a garage in alabama...It doesnt even have rust on the exhaust,lol. Regardless id pay 1500 for yours any day. Great buy!!!
Just Shared the video to my panther group and station wagon, nice car
I really appreciate that Robert. Sharing helps the channel.
@@OldeCarrGuy your welcome 👍
That’s a nice clean Vic a keeper for sure
Thanks
Hi brother. Looks like you got a real good deal for her. I have an 07 GM GS. When you mention the blend door actuator possibility going out, it put me in mind of a 00 GM I owned years ago with the same issue. My mouth dropped when I saw the dashboard removed with the exposed firewall. My GM just keeps trucking along. I hope yours does as well.
Thanks bud
Anytime you have any car up in the air, check for up and down play at your wheels to see if you have axle bearing play and top off your differential oil
She's a beaute Clark. Needs an OCG brand hi-po intake manifold 😉
The rust looks easy enough to get out in front of and should do the household just fine for years to come!
Get out the POR15! 😂
I've been finding out coconut oil is the best thing to use on the leather to make it soft, I'm going to be using it on my Camry.
Does it absorb and not wear off on your clothes
@@OldeCarrGuy you rub it in real good and take a micro fiber cloth and wipe off any excess
Great job.. keep it original.. nice wax n polish...no tint. No wheels. no exhaust. Keep it original. Love the police CV.
fellow New Brunswicker..
Right on! Thanks for watching!
you scored bud! nice vic
Thanks
In Ontario, they seem to be priced lower than what you were throwing out. Thats just from searching marketplace. 2011's are liated at $5000. It's worth whatever somebody will pay for it! 😂
Condition is everything! Most Canadian crowns are rusty by now
@@OldeCarrGuy absolutely. I live in Southern Ontario, most cars are more rust than metal after 10-15 years!
I love those Panther cars! My family owned two 1st gen Panthers a 1984 FORD LTD Crown Victoria and a 1991 refresh LTD Crown Victoria with the rounded off sharp edges. Both were great cars. I wish I had them now in the same condition they were in when we had them back in the 1990s. Great video, I think my next car will be a Panther.
Thanks for sharing
Blend door actuators in these cars only function is temperature change, sounds like you have an issue with the digital climate control itself or a broken vent door in your heater core allowing you to change the airflow direction. Sucks, I had no blend door actuator in mine, it had been removed but not replaced, and a stuck vent door on the core, broken a/c system too. Manual climate control works tho, replaced the blend door as well.
It did end up being the controller! All fixed!
I bought a 2010 Interceptor for $4K. It just passed 141000 miles, and is still solid!
I would say no Crown Victoria is junk. Not even those that look like they've been thru the ringer and are coming apart. I have a 2010 police interceptor model that has over 187,000 miles and is still in excellent running condition.
Keep it going! They’re all worth saving
Great buy. Sounds like the o rings in the eatc are bad. Those are easier to deal with than the blend door.
For sure!
i got a 2009 crown vic, payed 2k it had 177k miles and 8 years later it is still going strong, only put in 30k miles so far it is at 208k now, very low maintenance
That’s one of my most favorite cars the crown Victoria the cops police cruisers you should keep that car in your car collection
The Climate Control has 4 o-rings and when they wear out it causes it to only blow out the Defrost. I did one of mine and bought the o-rings at Home Depot and works great. You have to take out the climate control and take apart. At first thought it would be a hard job but after the first o-ring it was fairly simple.
Thanks Charlie
Great buy.
Thanks
Yes sir, I'd have bought this car in a heart beat. Always wanted an LX, and for $1500 you did well.
I thought so to!
Love these cars. I got a 2010 interceptor myself, and had to do some work on it, but of all the vehicles I've owned over the years this is my favorite. And it all started with my '94 MGM
My favourite as well!
Should be able to open up the floor vents.
Looks like you got a steal on this one. Great Video!
Thanks Will
I'm thinking of going shopping for a newer Grand Marquis or Towncar next week. Either that or a van.🤷♂️
No no no no no! Not a van!!!
I love my 2005 Crown Victoria LX with only 74,000 miles, and being a New Mexico car there is not one speck of rust anywhere and no oxidation build up on the motor! My 2004 LX had the blend door issue too, @FordTechMakuloco has a video on rebuilding the climate control module and That fixed the issue, a vacuum leak in the unit!
I’ll definitely check out his video!
Have you done the self test on the EATC?
Good point definitely do this OCG!
No! But I’ll check into it!
LMAO you WON that car for $1500 !! That car would be $4000+ in my area
Thanks bud!
Looks great!
Thanks
I got mine posted on there and it runs grate I started at 4k its down to 2400$ and I haven't gotten anymore people messing me about it. Mine is a police interceptor.
Location?
I don't understand why you don't just trade the exhaust completely from one car to the other?
It's always easier to sell a car with a stock exhaust than something that's modified anyways.
When you try and sell a car with any major modifications you narrow your
spectrum of potential buyers because you have to find that specific type of person who is already interested in that type of modification in the first place. 🤷♂️
Brother! Its all good! If someone doesn’t like the exhaust I’ll offer to change it If the money is right. Besides, I just don’t want to do the work twice unnecessarily if someone actually does want the Magnaflow exhaust after I changed it back!
Want to see all the updates on panther platform cars ,I have 2 of them and 02 and 2011
There are several playlists on this channel related to Panthers.
Where did the car travel too? Interesting came from Kelowna!
I picked it up in Saint John New Brunswick.
Thats not the blend door actuator. I've had a couple of them fail. They have nothing to do with which vent the air comes out of. The blend door actuator is what controls the position of the door that mixes hot air from the heater with cold air from the A/C. The actual actuator is a plastic box about the size of an 8 track tape (anybody remember those? I do) with a small 12V motor and plastic gears in it. The gears will strip out, and make weird clicking/clunking noises, and the air from the vents will go full hot. They are almost impossible to replace without removing most of the dash, but you can rig them in one position, either full hot or full A/C, by removing the passenger airbag, grinding the end of a 20" piece of rebar into a chisel, reaching in through the airbag opening, and breaking the corners off the actuator box and moving it out of the way. You can then jam the door into whichever position you want it. Living in Phoenix, AZ, I put mine in full A/C position. We don't need heat here.
I get where you’re coming from but the blend door actuator was part of the issue. Ended up replacing that and the EATC.
I live in eastern Europe.....i want one.....in the summer when im on vacation in the Usa im gonna buy one drive it across country and then ship it to Romania.....over here a good one is 10k so even with tax and shipping it'll be 4k.....cant wait to buy one.....ill fix it up and put it next to my Bmw 7 series in the garage!!!ill look for a Lincoln or Mercury but the Ford is also great.I also have 88 560sec.Old cars are the best.....i prefer deiving the merc but if i have a long road im afraid to take it....something usually breaks:)))
Btw there are a lot of overpriced Fords out there.....to take a 2k car and flip it for 5k.....its not gonna happen.....no one will pay that maybe you put 500-1000$ over what you paid after a detaling but if you look the same overpriced cars are for sale for half a year maybe more....people who buy these cars are either poor and dont have enough cash or have a couple of cars and know what they do just like me.Youll never make me pay more than its worth usually people loose money on old cars.....the guys who have the cars on sale for months usually sell them for less than what they would have gotten if they asked for a fair price from the beggining.A car thats rare like a Porsche Bmw or Jaguar limited run cars sure will increase in the future but not a Ford thats built in millions of units.People say the market is crashing when in reality its only getting closer to theyre real values.
I would have bought it at that $$ The only problem is, I would be keeping that as well as my 04 Grand Marquis!
lol My wife says I can’t keep them all!
@@OldeCarrGuy I completely understand
I like it more when they fight you. 😂
😂
best car made
Agreed!
Nice car.
Thanks!
Love those cars, I had a 2008 police interceptor, and it was such a fun car to drive, sure not insane amount of horsepower but just something about the crown vics will always get a grin out of me when regular people have one.
Thanks bud
Are you and Jason from Amagansett Press on TH-cam brothers. You look and sound so much alike he does 1st amendment audits he is from New York
Haha! I get that a lot. Sadly not!
@@OldeCarrGuy ok you all look and sound Alike but I have an 04 crown Victoria that's how I found your channel I enjoy watching your videos.
Definitely undercoat her Now while she's in good shape
Amen
Where did you find it
Local marketplace about 60 miles away.
@@OldeCarrGuy awesome wish I could find one in my area that price but their still a little steep my way
One question I have on the manual swap Crown Vic if it came out of a GT500 how do they use an up 3650 which has the remote Mount shifter and doesn't use a slip yoke it uses the bolt on drive shaft , unless it's just a Mustang GT 01-04 transmission
By the sounds of things you are far more knowledgeable than I am. I’m only going by what the previous owner told us and that was that it is a 3650.
@@OldeCarrGuy well if the shifter mounts directly on the transmission and uses a traditional slip yoke then it probably came out of an 01 to 04 Mustang as the 05 up has the remote Mount shifter and that weird bolt on drive shaft if it is a 3650 and not a T45
@@neilbrown82I’ll have to take your word for it!😊
@OldeCarrGuy all you have to do is take a look it would be pretty obvious plus all 05 to 2010 tr3650 don't have a clutch fork they went to hydraulic throwout bearing instead of cable shift
It’s definitely a hydraulic clutch!
Was that $1500 Canadian?
No! $2000 CAD. I just did the conversion for you😁
@@OldeCarrGuy nice I bought a decent panther for that once
Let's see a one wheel peal ?
lol Maybe
Also I laugh every time somebody says four-door Mustang because mustang never had a full frame so it's more like an F-150
You may be right, but it’s said a lot!
I doubt it's junk after driving a super rusted 93 Crown Vic i bought for $100 when I was 18 that was so neglected that one of the cam followers had popped off and it shuddered really bad until a compression test found the dead cylinder with the non functioning intake valve and new trans filter and fresh fluid. Still burned a ton of oil but I drove it like that for two years before I eventually sold it. Now I have lots of rust free Panthers that run perfect. Whatever can go wrong with one can be fixed.