Haha I love this! Just out here trying to put real world data to the theory we all spend time researching and talking about! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica it was literally like a week or 2 ago when Geissele showed the new federal hybrid round fired full auto in their new Geissele line of stuff and I thought “I wonder what the difference would be firing hybrid from 10.3 vs. 11.5?” 😂
@ yes, it helps me and I’m sure many other learn about different types of scopes and their reticles, then from mounts and what lowers and uppers from different companies fit together. In my case I’ve ordered different upper and lower and had so much play in between. Also the ammo you use and how to calibrate for different rounds, calibers and lengths. It really helps when building our own setups which is a lot cheaper than buying factory AR’s. So the description makes a huge diffference! IMO! Thanks for the great content as usual
Don’t understand how we’re not past 500k subscribers. Side note, think it would be cool to see some combat accuracy tests like 9 hold reviews, but with your flair on it it. Keep up the good work!
You have saved me countless hours and money with these videos. By far my favorite creator. Your like a free college education without the tuition for anything shooting.
Haha I love this! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel. Just out here trying to provide real world data to the questions we are all asking ourselves!
LOL only if you don't need to hit 500 yards either. A 10 inch barrel can hit 100 yards no problem with reduced penetration, the farther you shoot is a prayer.
From the frozen tundra of Idaho!!! Giving my beloved mk18 a workout past 500 but it is really satisfying to get hits at 700-800. Thanks for braving the cold for this video!
increases in velocity are essentially linear with 5.56. For every inch of barrel you tend to get around 100fps. So what you would see is a marginal improvement over the 11.5.
@@Mr4twentiethat depends on gas system of course. I like midlength for both over carbine for various reasons. Edit.... still a 50% increase, regardless haha. Its late, brain function dwindling.... lol
Man I really appreciate it! My plan is to keep cranking out solid content and the rest will take care of itself. Lots of new content in the works so hope you’ll state tuned to check it out!
Congrats on the Gundie. I carry a Mk18 at work, and also have a 11.5 URGI, so this was a very interesting video. It would have been cool if you could have done some sort of terminal wounding performance out there at 820.
Really cool to hear the mk18 is still in action! I have some more mk18 content planned for this spring (waiting on my kac nt4 can to clear) so some kind of long range terminal testing is something I can see about doing. I really want to revisit the mk18 at long range just to see if I can get that hit % up a little higher.
Its fun taking these rigs out like this. Me n dad had a 400yd day couple wknds ago. I set up plates at 50, 1,2,3, and 400yds. My newest rig is a 13.7pw and only have an exps2 on it. It was SOO fun getting out past 100yds, great success with the Eotech. Enjoyed your video fella.
Sure thing! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch. 100% I feel like these high pressure ammos are the future…. Right now the only downside for me is the cases aren’t reloadable. Once we have a solution for that, I’ll be fully in on nas3 ammo
I recently moved my mpvo from my 16” to 13.7 for a more rounded “do as much as possible” gun so I’m training with less stuff and focusing on building as my skills around it as possible. I’m loving it. Now that I have a nice lpvo sitting around I keep looking at it and wanting to put it on my 10.5 but it’s seemed so out of place to do so… it’s getting mounted up when I get home now to test out some different loads as a compact truck gun for opportunity varmints
Congratulations on the Gundies! As always, great content, well thought out, and executed. Very articulate and clear presentation! Any info on reload-ability of the high pressure cases? Will be interesting to see how these high pressure rounds will affect barrel life.
Thank you! Really appreciate the support! I’m fairly new to the high pressure/ nas3 cased ammo but understanding is only a couple of the pistol calibers are reloadable using a special die. I do not believe any of the rifle cases are reloadable right now. Once there is a reloading solution for the rifle case I think it’ll be only a short matter of time before nas3 cases are used commonly
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Interesting…. Guess I didn’t realize the double pull would get you sitting height. When you see me doing this in a figure video you’ll know where I got the idea haha
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I’ve been exclusively competing with 75gr BTHP in NAS3 shell shocks for QP/PRS for almost 18 months. The performance is insane. Once you go shell shock it’s hard to go back.
Man, the drop difference between 10.3 and 11.5 really shows here. Now I know this is a sample size of 1, but reinforces that there seems to really be a change in 5.56 between these barrel lengths. Still really awesome to see short barrels being stretched out farther than most of us will be shooting them.
11.5" is my preferred 5.56 SBR length. I have a Geissele Super Duty. This was a very interesting video. I'll probably never shoot as far as you did, since I live in a very forested area where sightlines beyond 200 yards are rare (highways and large parking lots being the main exceptions). I've been seeing more companies making bi-metal cases for higher pressure loads. I'm sure it will be a while before they start becoming more commonplace, but I'm looking forward to any advances.
To anyone wondering, it appears the phantom loads use shellshock tech cases. These cases can be purchased to handload, however, the 9mm requires special dies due to the material strength. They do not offer special dies for the 5.56 and 300aac. Ive read blogs about people trying to reload the rifle rounds and having difficulty resizing them after they've been fired, which makes sense given the the case material and strength. It would be a godsend if these ammo manufacturers like phantom, and badlands, gave us more info on how to load these cases.
Zack , Glad to see this comparison , however wish you were using the same ammo all the rest of us are using, standard stuff AAC 75 BTHP. or 77 OTM , ALWAYS REALLY ENJOY YOUR WORK , ALWAYS IMPRESSIVE 👍💪👊😎🇺🇸❤️
12.5” 308?!? Talk about some muzzle blast haha. I have a 14.5” 308 which is a ton of fun. Can’t say I have a 12.5” build in the plans for the immediate future but maybe something to try down the road.
Something to keep in mind--10.3 already wears out a lot faster than longer barrel lengths even with normal ammunition. Typically parts start failing around the 5,000 round mark or so. With a higher pressure ammo that wear will be accelerated. That is one advantage that the 11.5 has over the 10.3, I'd personally say its the main advantage.
That being the case, many people who would shoot 5k rds on a 10.3 would not have plenty of spare parts laying around or would care about parts wear. And average dudes don't run 5k worth of rounds, on a single rig, to have parts wear be of concern.
You should tell my issued 416K that😅 its had something like 7K through it since i got i 4 years ago, and its not a new gun! 09 manufacture. Its had a barrel change and striker before i got it but otherwise nothing that i know of
@@boygirlandadad5814 General consensus: Shorter barrel = shorter gas system length = higher cyclic rate = more wear and tear on parts involved with the cycling process
IWI Zion 12.5" AR pistol, this barrel length seems optimal for velocity and compactness in 5.56mm NATO caliber. Velocities above 12.5" still increase but with less difference...initial start to velocity plateau ...
Yeah Classic Firearms did a barrel length test and that particular barrel matched the velocity of the 14.5 . Head scratcher as to why since I believe the twist rate is identical.
I have that barrel in 10.3 and I just put an 11.5 fbi profile centurion chf cl in another rifle. Both shoot well but the 11.5 is amazingly accurate, definitely sub moa. Cheers
My defensive load of choice for both my MK18 and my 12.5” middy (my main squeeze) is Hornady Black 5.56 75 gr Interlock HD SBR. Both are dedicated suppressor hosts, and that round was optimized for suppressed SBR’s (hence the name). It’s a soft point bullet that was designed to expand and/or fragment at a slightly lower velocity than most other 556 loads and it has a significantly reduced flash and sound signature vs other defensive loads I’ve tried.. I get literally ZERO flash signature at night out of my 12.5 with a Sandman K fitted with a 556 fh end cap, which is widely considered to be one of the flashier cans on the market. The best part, however, is how much cleaner the ammo burns. I haven’t tested it head to head vs other defensive rounds, but just based on my own experience I would estimate you can probably shoot 2X’s the amount you normally do between cleanings as you could with some standard m193 or m855 load. Even ACC or IMI 77’s are way dirtier than this stuff. It’s the ish man you should def check it out.
Straight 20rd PMAG’s have issues. None of mine would chamber the last two rounds. I called magpul and they swapped all my straight ones with the curved design and now I have zero issues. 11.5” with 69gr is KING 😎
I’m sup prized by these group sizes. I run Daniel defense right off the shelf and shoot sierra blitz kings at 2550 out of a 11.5 with rc 2 10x scope sub moa all day. Much better typically. Cold bore. Same set up in 14.5 same results. Only thing changed is the triggers. I think your a better shooter then I am. Is this typical accuracy out of these guns. 20 years ago I had to get custom work done to get sub moa rifles. Now it seems you can just buy a Daniel. Love the vids.
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Longtime subscriber, love watching your content and always learning something new. But I’m not understanding your group’s from 36 yards, I use that zero to, on all my 10.5” PSA’s. I’m getting .75 - 1.50 groups, depending on ammo. And shooting on table top with bags. And about the same with 16”, 14”, PSA’s @ 100-200 yards, all with LPVO’s , primary arms, Arken, EOTech,. I know you have been shooting way longer than me and shoot more rounds per week than me. I think you can do better, your equipment cost twice or three times more than mine. Not complaining just an observation!!
Really informative and useful video. I already have a bolt gun in 277 fury and was hoping that someone would come up with a hybrid case 5:56. Excellent review! Would love to know how to setup the steel with the lights that go off with a hit.
Oh man…. Check out the Hornady hit indicator. They are a game changer for spotting impacts down range. Super affordable and easy to install on the t post. Appreciate you taking the time to watch! Hope the video delivered the kind of value you expected!
Good info. Watched a video of shorter barrel guns. Asked about long range use and they said the guns weren’t built for it. I think I’ll go with a 11.5 with 69 gr smk. I was looking for a gun for the house that could be used out at ranch to 700.
This dude has answered every question I came up with
He answered questions that I didn't know I had! Love MMM
Haha I love this! Just out here trying to put real world data to the theory we all spend time researching and talking about!
Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel.
Thanks for all you do and all the great data you provide@@MountainsMulletsMerica
@@MountainsMulletsMerica it was literally like a week or 2 ago when Geissele showed the new federal hybrid round fired full auto in their new Geissele line of stuff and I thought “I wonder what the difference would be firing hybrid from 10.3 vs. 11.5?” 😂
Most informative page on everything you’re using in the description section. That makes huge difference and make the video so much better.
Glad to hear you appreciate that! I always wondered how many folks actually paid attention to the description haha
@ yes, it helps me and I’m sure many other learn about different types of scopes and their reticles, then from mounts and what lowers and uppers from different companies fit together. In my case I’ve ordered different upper and lower and had so much play in between. Also the ammo you use and how to calibrate for different rounds, calibers and lengths. It really helps when building our own setups which is a lot cheaper than buying factory AR’s. So the description makes a huge diffference! IMO!
Thanks for the great content as usual
Don’t understand how we’re not past 500k subscribers. Side note, think it would be cool to see some combat accuracy tests like 9 hold reviews, but with your flair on it it. Keep up the good work!
You have saved me countless hours and money with these videos. By far my favorite creator. Your like a free college education without the tuition for anything shooting.
Haha I love this! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel. Just out here trying to provide real world data to the questions we are all asking ourselves!
I don't need longer barrel! I don't need higher pressure ammo!
ALL I need is YOUR SKILLS :)
Fabulous video!
Haha I dunno if I’d call it skills…. Sometimes a little luck goes a long ways!
Appreciate the support!
LOL only if you don't need to hit 500 yards either. A 10 inch barrel can hit 100 yards no problem with reduced penetration, the farther you shoot is a prayer.
Yeah exactly! This dude could throw rocks and get better groupings than I could.
@@jimjones9239 The guy on the receiving end, regardless of yardage, is the one who would need a prayer. lol
From the frozen tundra of Idaho!!! Giving my beloved mk18 a workout past 500 but it is really satisfying to get hits at 700-800. Thanks for braving the cold for this video!
If there was ever a channel that deserved about a million more followers than what it has, it would have to be this one. Awesome video!
Please do 12.5in, would love a comparison from you
increases in velocity are essentially linear with 5.56. For every inch of barrel you tend to get around 100fps. So what you would see is a marginal improvement over the 11.5.
@@armorers_wrench dwell time increases 50% from 11.5 to 12.5 , its actually the biggest increase per inch comparing with other lenghts
@@Mr4twentiethat depends on gas system of course. I like midlength for both over carbine for various reasons.
Edit.... still a 50% increase, regardless haha. Its late, brain function dwindling.... lol
Why??? 12.5 is a no-brainer given the performance he rung out of these two lengths.
12.5 carbine gas with a5 buffer and chrome silicon spring it's all i run
You did it my man the long awaited video here it is
I hope it delivered! I had a ton of fun making this one and appreciate you taking the time to watch!
The entire internet should be subscribed to your channel
Entire internet Checking in
Man I really appreciate it! My plan is to keep cranking out solid content and the rest will take care of itself.
Lots of new content in the works so hope you’ll state tuned to check it out!
Congrats on the Gundie. I carry a Mk18 at work, and also have a 11.5 URGI, so this was a very interesting video. It would have been cool if you could have done some sort of terminal wounding performance out there at 820.
Really cool to hear the mk18 is still in action! I have some more mk18 content planned for this spring (waiting on my kac nt4 can to clear) so some kind of long range terminal testing is something I can see about doing. I really want to revisit the mk18 at long range just to see if I can get that hit % up a little higher.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
Great content!
Terminal ballistics please!
I don’t understand how you don’t have 2 million subscribers by now…best channel in the space by far
Really?
@@jimjones9239 right now, yes. Easily. The bigger channels have sold out. All of em
We need some of those hats for the cold weather here in Wisconsin! Nice video Mr. Mullet 😎
Glad you like the pod knobs! Great content as always!
The pod knobs and pod caps are awesome
You really do listen to what people want to see
So awesome.
Great attention to detail.
Keep it up buddy
Am I the only one that feels like I need a lot more training after watching these outstanding videos? Man, you are steady on that trigger!
12.5 it is then!!!
It would be a cool video to show the set-up and how to use the gadgets, scope levels, target hit flashers, etc.
Its fun taking these rigs out like this. Me n dad had a 400yd day couple wknds ago. I set up plates at 50, 1,2,3, and 400yds. My newest rig is a 13.7pw and only have an exps2 on it. It was SOO fun getting out past 100yds, great success with the Eotech. Enjoyed your video fella.
Another great video! Love long range stuff and have learned a lot on your videos.
I run a 12.5 generally, but my NV setup is an 11.5. Love your videos
I always love me an SBR stretched out to distance. Very informative vid, well done!
Same here! Wish the hit % was a little higher out at distance but I guess it is what it is haha
My good man, keep up the solid content and without a doubt you will surpass 100k subs.
Thanks so much for showing this comparison…very excited for where the hybrid ammo goes in the industry.
Sure thing! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch. 100% I feel like these high pressure ammos are the future…. Right now the only downside for me is the cases aren’t reloadable. Once we have a solution for that, I’ll be fully in on nas3 ammo
I am indeed impressed at the velocity gain by the 11.5” in general. And surprised at the lack of accuracy from the IMI.
Holy cow! Was just shopping building an 11.5 vs getting that brownells stripped mk18 upper. So stoked for this.
11.5 master race haha
8 mins in and really looking forward to this video! Thanks for the awesome content.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Hope the video delivered the kind of value you expected!
awesome comparison, thank you!
Appreciate you taking the time to watch and for your continued support of the channel!
I recently moved my mpvo from my 16” to 13.7 for a more rounded “do as much as possible” gun so I’m training with less stuff and focusing on building as my skills around it as possible. I’m loving it. Now that I have a nice lpvo sitting around I keep looking at it and wanting to put it on my 10.5 but it’s seemed so out of place to do so… it’s getting mounted up when I get home now to test out some different loads as a compact truck gun for opportunity varmints
Congratulations on the Gundies!
As always, great content, well thought out, and executed. Very articulate and clear presentation!
Any info on reload-ability of the high pressure cases? Will be interesting to see how these high pressure rounds will affect barrel life.
Thank you! Really appreciate the support!
I’m fairly new to the high pressure/ nas3 cased ammo but understanding is only a couple of the pistol calibers are reloadable using a special die. I do not believe any of the rifle cases are reloadable right now. Once there is a reloading solution for the rifle case I think it’ll be only a short matter of time before nas3 cases are used commonly
100k by the end of the year? Man I think you'll have that by May
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I've been waiting for this one 😊 you're such a giver
Triple M, another banger! Keep 'em coming!
you always have the greastest subject matter for the stuff i am interested in brother! I REALLY love it! keep up the great work.
Good job as always. a lot of information concise and well proven.
Another great and informative video. Thank you.
i love the double pull, it’s tripod sitting height with so much less setup time
Interesting…. Guess I didn’t realize the double pull would get you sitting height. When you see me doing this in a figure video you’ll know where I got the idea haha
i’m almost 6ft and it works great, hope it does for you too th-cam.com/users/shorts9htIgWu80Z0?feature=shared
tactical orange pod knobs! love it!
Decided to go with the bright orange knobs to make sure they pop on camera!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica they did! ever ran a B&T SPR 300?
Fantastic breakdown!
Congrats on new channel award!
Thank you! Feels great knowing my audience went out of their way to provide that kind of support. Now I’m more motivated than ever to pump out epic new content. Hope you’ll stay tuned!
Love the hat! Need to get some Roy Orbison glasses to complete the ensemble!
Thanks for the comparison!
Been watching your content the last couple hours loving it! Would love to see how 55 grain bullets fair past 300 yards!
Very cool-❤ the breakdown of the platforms.
Love how you push the limit. Great video.
I’ve been exclusively competing with 75gr BTHP in NAS3 shell shocks for QP/PRS for almost 18 months. The performance is insane. Once you go shell shock it’s hard to go back.
Love your videos man. Always be making videos of things I be wondering about. I don’t have the luxury to go anywhere, to try this somewhere close by.
More fantastic content.
The fact that you don’t have more subscribers is a damning indictment of TH-cam gun viewership.
Remember Zach, everyone keeps saying shorter barrels are more accurate than longer barrels. 😂😂😂
Very informative! Now I can feel even more justified when I spend way too much money on a mk18 upper. 😤
Dude I swear you read my mind! Love your vids!!
Man, the drop difference between 10.3 and 11.5 really shows here. Now I know this is a sample size of 1, but reinforces that there seems to really be a change in 5.56 between these barrel lengths. Still really awesome to see short barrels being stretched out farther than most of us will be shooting them.
Dang that suppressor is the Surefire 212S Monster.... cool you have one!
This was my very first suppressor purchase! I’m thinking I pulled the trigger on it back in 2011…. Still going strong!
11.5" is my preferred 5.56 SBR length. I have a Geissele Super Duty. This was a very interesting video. I'll probably never shoot as far as you did, since I live in a very forested area where sightlines beyond 200 yards are rare (highways and large parking lots being the main exceptions). I've been seeing more companies making bi-metal cases for higher pressure loads. I'm sure it will be a while before they start becoming more commonplace, but I'm looking forward to any advances.
To anyone wondering, it appears the phantom loads use shellshock tech cases. These cases can be purchased to handload, however, the 9mm requires special dies due to the material strength. They do not offer special dies for the 5.56 and 300aac. Ive read blogs about people trying to reload the rifle rounds and having difficulty resizing them after they've been fired, which makes sense given the the case material and strength. It would be a godsend if these ammo manufacturers like phantom, and badlands, gave us more info on how to load these cases.
Zack , Glad to see this comparison , however wish you were using the same ammo all the rest of us are using, standard stuff AAC 75 BTHP. or 77 OTM , ALWAYS REALLY ENJOY YOUR WORK , ALWAYS IMPRESSIVE 👍💪👊😎🇺🇸❤️
May the algorithm be ever in your favor.
Much appreciated my friend!
Another banger🤙🏽
Appreciate it!!!
How? Just how? This is insane!!!
Seeing is believing baby! Long barrels are overrated haha
Always great data, thanks for the demonstration
Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Great video man!
Thanks for this!!!
Do a 12.5" 308 build, I need my impulsive decisions affirmed.
12.5” 308?!? Talk about some muzzle blast haha.
I have a 14.5” 308 which is a ton of fun. Can’t say I have a 12.5” build in the plans for the immediate future but maybe something to try down the road.
Man that trigger cam footage is a trip. 🤣
Yeah I’m sorry about that…. I didn’t realize the thing was having issues until I started editing 🤦♂️
@MountainsMulletsMerica no worries brother. We love what you do. Some times we have to work around things.
Something to keep in mind--10.3 already wears out a lot faster than longer barrel lengths even with normal ammunition. Typically parts start failing around the 5,000 round mark or so. With a higher pressure ammo that wear will be accelerated. That is one advantage that the 11.5 has over the 10.3, I'd personally say its the main advantage.
That being the case, many people who would shoot 5k rds on a 10.3 would not have plenty of spare parts laying around or would care about parts wear. And average dudes don't run 5k worth of rounds, on a single rig, to have parts wear be of concern.
You should tell my issued 416K that😅 its had something like 7K through it since i got i 4 years ago, and its not a new gun! 09 manufacture. Its had a barrel change and striker before i got it but otherwise nothing that i know of
I do not understand how a shorter barrel will wear out faster. Help me understand why it would.
@@boygirlandadad5814 General consensus: Shorter barrel = shorter gas system length = higher cyclic rate = more wear and tear on parts involved with the cycling process
Yah 11.5 has about a 5% increase in OAL of rifle but has a 40% increase in dwell time over the 10.5
Love the phantom defense loads. They make a spanking 85 grain 300 blackout load. Not great accuracy but 2500 fps out of my 9 inch barrel
I run a BA HANSON 11.3 with a 1-6. It shoots so well and is gassed very well. Anything within 450m is pretty easy.
Great info! 😎
Godamn superb!
Keep it up my man.
Thank you! I’ve got a ton of new content in the works. Hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out!
I want some of those phantom rounds
Another great video!!!! Thank you!!!
IWI Zion 12.5" AR pistol, this barrel length seems optimal for velocity and compactness in 5.56mm NATO caliber. Velocities above 12.5" still increase but with less difference...initial start to velocity plateau ...
Yeah Classic Firearms did a barrel length test and that particular barrel matched the velocity of the 14.5 . Head scratcher as to why since I believe the twist rate is identical.
Appreciate your content, brother
I have that barrel in 10.3 and I just put an 11.5 fbi profile centurion chf cl in another rifle. Both shoot well but the 11.5 is amazingly accurate, definitely sub moa. Cheers
Great video.
Very informative information!
Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for supporting the channel!
My defensive load of choice for both my MK18 and my 12.5” middy (my main squeeze) is Hornady Black 5.56 75 gr Interlock HD SBR. Both are dedicated suppressor hosts, and that round was optimized for suppressed SBR’s (hence the name). It’s a soft point bullet that was designed to expand and/or fragment at a slightly lower velocity than most other 556 loads and it has a significantly reduced flash and sound signature vs other defensive loads I’ve tried.. I get literally ZERO flash signature at night out of my 12.5 with a Sandman K fitted with a 556 fh end cap, which is widely considered to be one of the flashier cans on the market. The best part, however, is how much cleaner the ammo burns. I haven’t tested it head to head vs other defensive rounds, but just based on my own experience I would estimate you can probably shoot 2X’s the amount you normally do between cleanings as you could with some standard m193 or m855 load. Even ACC or IMI 77’s are way dirtier than this stuff. It’s the ish man you should def check it out.
Commenting for the algorithm. Another great video my friend 🤙🏼
Glad you enjoyed it! Tons of new content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out!
You're the best dude
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excellent presentation, thank you
Straight 20rd PMAG’s have issues. None of mine would chamber the last two rounds. I called magpul and they swapped all my straight ones with the curved design and now I have zero issues.
11.5” with 69gr is KING 😎
Great vid!!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Great work, i would love to see 12.5 vs 14.5 to see how they compare. My two are super close
I’m sup prized by these group sizes. I run Daniel defense right off the shelf and shoot sierra blitz kings at 2550 out of a 11.5 with rc 2 10x scope sub moa all day. Much better typically. Cold bore. Same set up in 14.5 same results. Only thing changed is the triggers.
I think your a better shooter then I am. Is this typical accuracy out of these guns. 20 years ago I had to get custom work done to get sub moa rifles. Now it seems you can just buy a Daniel.
Love the vids.
Would love to see you try this with m193 and m855.
Love the TMK. 130gr 6.5prc and have a few 60gr .223. Goin for the 144smk in my waypoint next. 👊🏻
Great video and was very interesting watching with the two barrel lengths.
Would be interested in seeing how much better shooting with a 20” barrel?
Would love to see a 12.5 and 14.5 numbers along side these! Maybe even 16.5? 18? All of them…….?
Griffin armament covertly just being able to outfit a guy completely. They make great products
Congrats on the award. I voted!
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I’ve got a ton of new content planned for 2025 so I hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out
Longtime subscriber, love watching your content and always learning something new. But I’m not understanding your group’s from 36 yards, I use that zero to, on all my 10.5” PSA’s. I’m getting .75 - 1.50 groups, depending on ammo. And shooting on table top with bags. And about the same with 16”, 14”, PSA’s @ 100-200 yards, all with LPVO’s , primary arms, Arken, EOTech,. I know you have been shooting way longer than me and shoot more rounds per week than me. I think you can do better, your equipment cost twice or three times more than mine.
Not complaining just an observation!!
Now add 12.5, 13.7/13.9, and 14.5 to the mix vs a standard 16”
I would love to see this ammo out of an 18” barrel / SPR build. Really stretch it out and see how it compares to standard mk262 type loads
I have a mk12 mod 1 on the way…. Stay tuned and it’s happening! Fingers crossed I can get that video out in the next month to 6 weeks
@@MountainsMulletsMerica PSA mk12?
@@samlatone1763no, I thought about going with their upper but I wanted a mod 1. I went with a centurion complete rifle
@ stoked to see it perform.
Would love to see a 12.5 in this mix. Absolutely love this channel
I’d like to see something like the 10.3 or 11.5 put up against the 16
I use the Phantom Defense in 300 blackout with the new non brass cases on hogs and they work great. 22:04
Really informative and useful video. I already have a bolt gun in 277 fury and was hoping that someone would come up with a hybrid case 5:56. Excellent review! Would love to know how to setup the steel with the lights that go off with a hit.
Oh man…. Check out the Hornady hit indicator. They are a game changer for spotting impacts down range. Super affordable and easy to install on the t post.
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Good info. Watched a video of shorter barrel guns. Asked about long range use and they said the guns weren’t built for it.
I think I’ll go with a 11.5 with 69 gr smk. I was looking for a gun for the house that could be used out at ranch to 700.
Very Impressive!
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I HAD THE SAME problem with IMI crap ammo.
I’ve had the TGK tips break off during feeding in my 6ARC.
Sweet content. Have you ever tried the triarc barrels? They claim higher velocity with their rifling for the same length