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- Pharmacies were struggling with a weeks-long ransomware attack on the biggest company that processes insurance for many pharmacies and other healthcare providers. NBC News' Liz Kreutz reports.
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#Pharmacy #Cyberattack #Healthcare
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Offshoring your IT department wasn't a good idea after all.
Offshoring anything consumed or used by Americans isn't a good idea. Let's vote back in a president who gives af about its citizens.
@@Kaitlynn502Kentucky Trump 2024...America first, everyone else last.
@@plusorminusandtimeis that something you really believe? 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Cmunic8 I do.
@@Cmunic8 I do.
I work in cybersecurity and have applied to this company like many others but they won't hire us. Yet they complain about cyber attacks. They are cheap.
Bingo !
Same here! Looking for the same type of job! mean while i just play with my honey pot! and watch my pie charts of attacks mostly from China and etc.
My new crew was doing different stuff in logistics, and I started a "quality circle" , a meeting every week and my crew made suggestions. All we got from the two billion dollar companies was push back. We were doing things differently, more complex, new things, and they were comfortable peeing in their pants. It's warm and cozy....until it's not.
@@user-zf3xb3qx8w I believe you! The quality circle meeting is a good idea though. I feel like companies don't appreciate things like that.
It’s because they’re allowing it to happen, right
I can’t believe they didn’t have a backup plan in case something like this happens. Did they really think this could never happen.
Yeah, it's called filing with papers 📃
They needed a skilled cybersecurity disaster recovery analyst for this, but they likely did not have an adequate plan in place for a ransomware attack of this skill.
From - someone who has a Master's degree in tech and has five industry certificates and has worked in the IT sector.
Pays a $22,000,000 ransom with what could have been a less than 1 million dollar fix had they taken cyber security seriously. I hope this wakes up other companies that hold people's sensitive information.
I'm sure they had their 'PCI Certification', given their support for EFT via POS terminals as well as other certification types. But there's really very limited appreciation of what real computer systems security is. All the focus is on CYA, allowing for risk from torts or regulatory problems. And while related DR and Security aren't the same thing.
Exactly things like this have been going on for years. They prioritize getting their PCI cert and checking off those other boxes without actually understanding and implementing robust security measures leaving them and a host of other companies that basically do the same thing open to more sophisticated threats. HIPPA mandates pharmacies and other similar bodies that hold sensitive patient medical information to conduct regular risk assessments to ensure proper safeguards are in place, which is rarely done properly. $22 million is a drop in the bucket for large corporations, the ones that get hurt are the patients and others who have to pay hundreds or more out of pocket for medicine for their children. A lot of these get covered up, I'm surprised this is getting media coverage. The bottom line is people trust that these companies are doing everything in their power to safeguard their information, but in reality, they do NOT have the right people in place to protect the ocean of sensitive information they have been entrusted with, and they continue to get away with paying their IT departments as little as possible and investing as little as possible to protect your information and medical records until there is proper oversight.
Would be even cheaper and easier to switch to what the rest of the world uses: socialized medicine.
VERY SUS!
More than like a software vulnerability they didn't patch. Could have hired cybersecurity personnel like myself to prevent this attack.
This is like the 12th cyber attack this week. wth is going onnn
wait until the EMP hits
CMEs
I am usually not a conspiracy theory person but…it’s an election year. And Russia and China love to hack.
Someone has found a way to easily factor large semiprimes and is using it to decrypt systems thought to be secure, relying on the fact that this task is hard. This information is getting leaked and cyberattacks have become trivial. Look up rsa encryption if you want to learn more. The internet won't tell you anything because this information could destroy the entire internet. I wouldn't be surprised if this comment gets deleted.
Ruble-age, don't yuan'o...
It's when you laid-off your security team
Also while still using Windows XP
We'll all be much safer once we go back to pen and paper and employees that work IN the USA
Lolwot 😂
Lol, what a stupid comment. Healthcare is NEVER going back to pen and paper. Absurd and ignorant to even make a comment like this, you have zero clue as to what you're talking about.
This is what happens when they have everything on computers.
Exactly....they should have backup paperwork. That's what intelligent people do.
✅
Every one of us should be downloading our medical record to paper. Pronto.
I have a Master's degree in tech, and I've been tinkering with tech for several years, I agree with you for some kinds of documents.
The problem is, companies want to hire senior talent on a junior salary, which is not going to happen.
@@malwareman9443 What they come to understand in a mess like this is they should have spent the money. Now they will spend exponentially more while exposing themselves to the reach of the law.
Why don't these insurance companies take from the billions of dollars in profits and hire IT people who could stop the hackers. If I were a client, I would drop them forever for a different company. You know they will pass their error onto the clients.
I'm sure prices will be subtly raised for consumers to recoup corporate losses, but hey anything to shell out as little as possible to create an in-house, competent IT department, right?
Why dont the banks, phone co, & government do that too? Cause they dont care!
Too busy paying Peyton Manning to get you to buy their insurance.
Because their cheap and think it will never happen! They don't want to pay for what they need they pay the lowest bidder and get subpar people.
This can be life or death for people.
How smooth things ran 20yrs ago...
There's seems to be a pattern of people not doing their jobs to the detriment of the public's welfare. I sometimes wonder if it's not all intentional.
Stop wondering. If you’re saying this, you know the truth, you’re already there.
and what is the truth exactly? J problem? @@CrystalClearStar
Of course it is.
Seems YT deleted my comment...@@ge2623
The simple explanation is the most likely. What's simpler: that they were greedy and incompetent and neglected security in favor of their bottom line,
Or a conspiracy to intentionally sabotage American access to medicine?
Hire more skilled people in cybersecurity!
As someone in the industry who holds a Master's degree as well as five technical certifications, this is easier said than done for many companies as it is costly.
However, it is integral to company success at the same time, so it is a predicament.
Not just costly, but it’s almost impossible to even find anyone who has any depth of understanding.
Good morning sirs
@@malwareman9443It's also costly to pay a ransom and lawsuits
@@malwareman9443It's not a predicament. It's call CEOs and other tops are extreme money hoarders. There has been no loss in profit for their companies--in fact, quite the opposite--even as the masses struggle to just pay for groceries.
I have a cousin who has been witness to this. He worked in in the business. He witnessed as the company he was working for was taking titles away from people in order to prevent giving anyone increased pay.
Again, you can easily find that profit margins are increasing for companies but employees are being paid increasingly less despite their skill set and experience. It's not a cost thing in terms of companies just trying to stay afloat. It's a greed thing.
OLD SCHOOL IS THE BEST WAY!
WE MANAGE JUST FINE WITHOUT COMPUTERS!!!!
LOL ok boomer
This is to far!!!!! Hacking a bank is a lot different than a pharmacy!!!!!!!!!!!!
This would all be fine with paper and phone calls. Technology makes everything worse.
Overwhelmed for losing customers' money 🤑💰
Once passed your firewall and your done.
Which is why one never, ever, lets anyone that's not completely trusted 'in' there. No access that's not fully trusted and vetted should ever be allowed beyond the DMZ.
Air-gapped systems FTW.
@@nomdeguerre7265so you think vetting people IN the company stops hacker's 😂
This has been going on for at least about a week and we are just now getting reporting on this?
Get your doctor to write your prescription on a piece of paper, the way they used to do. Then bring it to the pharmacy along with your insurance policy on paper. Problem solved.
You... named yourself after your favorite snack?
The pharmacy still will not be able to bill or verify that your insurance is current and that the drug is on the formulary or what your co-payment is. Thank managed care for that. But they should, out of ethics, fill your prescription until the systems come back up. Even paper prescriptions are printed from the electronic medical record system. You wont find an Rx pad in the exam room drawer any more. Times change. Sigh.
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@@wintercame Most pharmacies and insurance companies have telephones. The pharmacist should pick up the phone, call the insurance company, and verify everything that way. Simple. Let's not make this more complicated than it is.
@@ChA0s_AgeNt I had no idea there's a snack called "Qrayon." If so, it was probably named after ME!
Patients can go to a different pharmacy. Not all pharmacies are affected.
The Punjabi IT security service was a great cost saver.
People not getting their meds is really going to stir the pot. If this is intentional it's easy to understand why
Some one needs to set up a good disaster recovery and business continuity plan.
That's part of it but not all of it. Pen testing is a great tool bt it's usually as simple as not training end users or having properly trained IT! bottom line is they don't want to pay for it until they have to pay for it..
Maybe try making medicine affordable for all 🤔
Chy-na
Person, woman, man, camera, TV
@@Typical.Anomaly If you get it in order you get extra points
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Blac Chyna, WWE Chyna, China-Chyna
If it was, they would have said as much. This is due to greed.
we are being attacked!
Same thing in NYC.
DO NOT REDEEM INSURANCE COVERAGE
Pharmacies, you HAVE to pay for better cybersecurity experts.
God forbid, you have to do something on paper.
I wonder if this is why my medications have been weird prices
🤔🤨 Laughably gross negligence or intentional??
Nothing NBC reports rings true. They've completely missed the point again.
That’s what happens when Donnie sells all the passwords to our foreign adversaries.
should have had a workstation, with ecc and harddrives set in parallel, with a backup drive also in parallel, and idk what os your using, I would use my own.
Walgreens is overwhelmed with two people in line. Lol
I hope the pharmaceutical companies don't lose any money because of this.
What about the patients ? Pharmaceuticals make billions 🤦🏽♀️
Better get to hiring
Something like this happened in Maine . I almost had to 282.00 for my husband's diabetes meds..
I know it's groceries but two billion dollar companies in 2009 were using their own software that the Sri Lankan guy I hired said looked like it hadn't been updated since Windows 95: Loblaws and Versa-Cold Atlanta. We needed processes added for a new approach, physically, to loss prevention and had everybody feeling so threatened bottom to top they put all their energy into fighting my crew. then . the power went out. Guess who were the only people that could run a freezer plant when the thing dumped??? Moi and my new buddy, Sri Lankan guy!! Loss prevention Western Canada STILL would NOT learn, or even ask questions. you get that internally and someone is eventually coming for you.
You should delete this b4 the lawsuit friend 😂
@@bethanyjohnson8222 Taken on by even bigger "gang groups" and lived. Unlikely they could hurt me now!! Bring it on!
This is why mgmt needs to retire. Most people over 60 dont know how serious it is in being hacked, if a CME hits us what would happen, and having a digital back up system. People 50 and younger knows more about backing uo ANYTHING that is digital. Also, having engineers and IT, ON USA soil may be a good idea.
Is this a test run for the new 'cyberpandemic'?
It's Intel and Microsoft Fault all this is happing, when they built the PC and software!
OMG....
Might want to fill in our president. It will take him over a year to even acknowledge this
Don’t wake him up from his nap.
What!!!!!!!!
Maybe now some of these companies will start to listen when they are told to invest in what is needed! Stop putting profits before prevention and a CSIRT!! BUT hey.. what do i know! 🙄
Thanks China
If it was China, they would say it. The fact that they don't name any foreign state actors indicates the source was an 'ally', or from within.
I'm dumb, I never even considered this, I thought it was just people trying to find out who has aids. I'm a bad person, its true. I'm going to rewatch this, and paying out of pocket lasts about 1-3 months in my opinion, for what that is worth, speaking personally, as I have seen in my life, then it ends, there is no way to sustain out of pocket medications cost.
Who getting fired for this?
Why is the GOP not investigating something important like this issue???
this is sin .
We MUST have a federal government system.
I built Servers and ran medical billing services and for accessing government facilities I had to install Cisco Rack Routers with 256 bit encrypted VPNs and private gateways separate from the hospital and medical companies.
The system was secure end to end.
We need that same system for all medical professionals and pharmacies.
The system should be a VPN using a private gateway where everything is encrypted including the computers used at the offices.
We had to install hardware firewalls that blocked every IP address except for the ones of the government facilities and I had to write IPSEC rules for each machine and server.
The government would not allow us to connect to their systems before they checked out everything I had done.
I was shocked when I saw them onsite reviewing every line of code in the router
It was a 50 pound beast and I had to lug it down 150 stairs to the computer room underground.
Nowadays the same equipment weighs about 5 pounds and is no bigger than a toaster.
We could easily install these in every medical office and pharmacy.
Psyop to institute digital ID and CBDC
How would a digital ID and CBDC work in a cyber attack? LOL.
@@Garylincoln789 good question ask them
No questions asked it's either Russian or Chinese or North Korea did this Attack.
Oh well better hope your aren't dependent on the Pharmikia sorcery industry anymore..or else sorry for your luck pal
Cbdc coming
How would a CBDC work in a cyber attack? Makes no sense.
Stop blaming China
Thank you pootin
Our healthcare system is the best. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
We need to move to the blockchain
Nah not even crypto will be safe a couple years from now
Welcome to democrat utopia.
Welcome to Putin from Trump. Trump invites chaos. He's transactional, elect me, I'll fix the border, until then Mike says No.
@@moorefacts6605Everything has gone down the toilet since Trump left. I voted for Biden and I was WRONG. We need to get creepy Joe out now.
@@moorefacts6605 I was 100% wrong to vote for Biden. He’s been by far the worst president since Woodrow Wilson.
@@joen8529 Dump has historians grasping for straws wondering if he can be worse than 45th in history of POTUS. Biden is ranked 14th. from the best. Who are YOU?
@@joen8529 Worse than Bush, Jr?
Thanks democrats
Russia
That's complete stupidity....You have absolute no credible information to tie this to Russia....
@@MortandHarley It's just what those NPCs do. Every time something happens they scream about either orange man, or Russia, or sometimes both.
They have the nut sack to call it@@MortandHarley
@@MortandHarley You're right! It's pure speculation. I wouldn't be surprised if it were Russia, China, Anonymous, J&J, or Pfizer.
@@Anne_Onymousare you familiar with Russia? 😂😂😂😂 or the orange man? Concerns are founded 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
With potato head as our president what do you think will happen?
That’s Mr Potato head to you!