Look at how many times people pass by, or stand around, even videotaping on their phones when they see someone in trouble. The public screams, "Why didn't someone help her or him?" But this, right here, answers that question. He stepped in to protect others and look what happened to him.
And now, just by being charged, (and people making his heroic actions into a matter of race) less and less individuals are going to be willing to risk their freedom to help someone who’s in fear for their life. And multiple witnesses (of different races) said they thought they were going to die that day before Daniel intervened. Just really sad this seemingly compromised prosecutor thought charges needed to be brought. A horrible precedent has now been set.
I do not like the judge taking 1 charge away and having them focus on another one. That makes me think he wants them to charge him with something. Crazy
Yeah. I agree. Whether it’s with a nefarious motive or not, my I’m-not-a-lawyer opinion is that it seems like it’s signaling the jury to convict regardless.
It seems to condone over charging. and if that doesn’t convict, prosecutors can say “ah well, just dismiss the charge, so what the entire trial was about proving said charge, pretend It didn’t exist and go with this other charge.” I’m from NY and It doesn’t give me much confidence in ANY of these shenanigans. The judge said, (when prosecutors asked to dismiss top charge) “can we do that?” Something to that effect. Crazy and scary.
What gets me is the family so worried about those dead son ...where were they when they were really needed... Obvious they see money in their future lawsuit ...shameful and totally without merit..The man threatened to kill people in the train..
@@ChevyTraversetyOFjustice Same thing happened with Pres Trump! The judge gave the jury the CHOICE to convict on anything they felt they wanted, or something like that. It was and is a clown show in the NYC court system!
They ALWAYS want the jury to convict. But, this could backfire on them and the jurors may not convict him of anything... most people don't like feeling like someone is trying to essentially trick them.
@@smokymtnlady3856 it was that the jury didn't have to all agree on the same thing for guilt. Each jury member could have a different reason for finding him guilty. The judge was loon
Penny held a chokehold long past causing Neely to be brain dead. Neely had no weapon… only a muffin. There was no fight, Penny snuck up behind him. Passengers left the train 4minutes before Penny finally let go.
@@lavenderface9875 When the cops arrived, Neely was already brain dead. Neely wasn't much of a threat, just screaming for food and he had no weapon, nor did he attack anyone. Some of those same passengers told Penny to ease up or he would kill him. Penny continued the chokehold long after everyone left the train and for 51 seconds after Neely stopped moving, so he was protecting no one. Penny also refused to testify. The jury were cowards. Penny is a low-life hero-wannabe murderer and you are his fan.
I saw his police interrogation + he literally wasn’t a violent man! He was trying to HELP PPL! If I was on that train, I would WANT a brave man to help until police got there! The victim was high on drugs!!! This is what police go through with out of control drug users who get super strength!!!
Really, well so was the perception people felt towards, Ted Bundy. In fact, one of his victims sat on his lap, during an interrogation session. So, I’d be willing to take a deeper dive, into my stance on murders. Are you swayed by your emotions and an imposed self righteous perception, on the situation or an actual knowledge/ relationship of Mr. Penny. Just curious.
@@adamscruton2972 They don’t give you “super strength” but they suppress certain receptors in your brain that do give you the ability to continue being violent and aggressive.
We can send the military overseas to fight for us. We draw the line when they protect us on our own land against our own people. He’s innocent. He’s been trained to serve and protect by our own government! This is outrageous
You are absolutely correct and there is nothing controversial about this acquittal. He should’ve been given a medal…not criminally charged. Not to mention 2 other men (not white) helped him hold the guy down, yet Penny is the only one charged?!? It is a disgrace.
The first responders supervisor testified he would NOT allow his people to give lifesaving measures because he didn't want his people catching any diseases, so why aren't they on the hook??? Neely was still breathing when officers arrived.
I’m sure there’s more than one who doesn’t want to convict. This case should have never gone to trial but it did. And after 4 days of deliberations the judge should have declared a mistrial. I’m curious to see what sentence he gets if he is convicted on the lesser included charges?? This judge is out to get this guy imo.
@@carolsisti7203yep, we don’t know the split- it could be only one who wants to convict. I don’t think this case should have been prosecuted IMO. I really wish there were cameras in the courtroom.
Exactly! So I see a woman being attacked on the Subway and I keep walking? Is that message the state wants to give? Pathetic..what’s happened to society ?
The fact that Neely had a pulse when the police arrived but they refused to administer CPR because they wouldn't touch him wouldn't that make them criminally negligent????
No, it’s NYC the Leo’s can contract HiV and all sorts of stuff. This is not their only interaction of the day. If they don’t have lip seals I’m sure they do chest compressions if needed.
I believe CPR should have been administered immediately if that could’ve saved his life. So that’s the case, those LE officers were definitely negligent. 🤷♀️
This is not about justice! This is about winning, just getting a conviction. How is this not a highly prejudicial action by the judge? Even his words in making the decision were jaw dropping. This opens the door for prosecutors in the future to overcharge without consequence. Also, the proscution have already open stated that Daniel justifiably intervened and used appropriate force to restrain Jordan. Their argument was that Daniel should have let go a little earlier. About 90 seconds or so. The prosecution introduced race into it. So this is clearly not a race issue. Are they trying to say that Daniel decided to hang on an extra 90 seconds just because he was black? Give me a break.
Exactly. Daniel had a big coat on and I am sure he thought his grip wasn't tight. There is a case in Milwaukee wisconsin about this same issue. Mattioli/Acevedo case. ❤😊
Exactly. If DP was black or JN was white, this either would never have gone to trial or we wouldn't be hearing about it. I'm so tired of situations like this being turned into a racial issue when it's obviously not.
Ugh the race card is getting old. Our country is a combination of all races religions etc. All lives matter but race should not be a factor in this case. Period
They are trying so hard to convict DP. That effort should have been made to take that deadbeat off the streets. He had so many priors. His family now lookin for a payday. People seekin justice for the decedant. Where were they and his family when he was attacking/assaulting people?
If I were on the jury, there would be a mistrial. There is No One who would convince me to ruin someone's life by compromising on charges for something I don't feel the person should have been charged for. I don't care if it's probation or life - I'm not voting guilty if I don't think they are.
It feels to me as though the Prosecutors' can stack the deck or have two bites of the same apple - that doesn't seem fair to me. And I can't fathom why the jury is struggling? This case should have never happened. The Marine was not trying to kill this man. His training would have made that happen in very quick order. He was simply trying to help secure him from harming others. This man had already harmed others. And he was high as a kite and threatening people. And people on that train were afraid. The color of skin for either is not relevant. But the protesters and activists made it the ONLY element!
This is so stupid. The judge is sending a message…Now the jury feels compelled to convict on the other charges. Who the hell wants to take public transportation now?
Yep. Now every person who does feels a little less safe. Even if Penny is found not guilty, the damage has already been done. His name and reputation ruined. And for what? Trying to help his fellow citizens who were being seriously threatened? And what really gets me about this is that because I know about this prosecutor and her focus on race, I have no doubt that Penny wouldn’t have been charged if Neely had happened to have been white. A factor that I have no doubt played zero part in Pennys actions.
If a judge can remove charges after case is entirely argued OVER that charge, as a juror i would find NG and think that it wasnt serious to begin with.
Same ish different day for Alvin Bragg in NY. When a crime hasn’t been committed, they just change the law! The US constitution apparently doesn’t apply there.
@djholliday5132 the " ex post facto" clause is the alleged protection against being charged under a new law.l, or even an amended portion of a law! The problem is...not many attorneys remember there is such a clause!
@elanak83 from what I've seen over the past 4 years, 99 % of prosecutors are acting like they have stats to add to some pretend trading card issue. It's only about the win....disregarding the fact that there are real humans that had productive lives in many cases. Then they were charged with a crime that is the end of what little savings ...and hopes and dreams they had before the politicized DA and their games began. It has nothing to do with "justice" in the majority of cases...just name recognition and climbing the political ladder !
As a female 37:25 college student I would hope someone like Daniel Penny would protect me given the same circumstances!! Women and children need to be protected NYC is a scary place NG
I agree. That’s why people don’t get involved with LE. They don’t come forward out of fear of being sidelined. Our judicial system is so flawed it makes me sick.
Penny held a chokehold long past causing Neely to be brain dead. Neely had no weapon… only a muffin. There was no fight, Penny snuck up behind him. Passengers left the train 4minutes before Penny finally let go.
Keep that same energy with all threatened people. No abused women or claimed to be abused women, should ever be locked up right?! Guess we have to overturn Sarah boones case now? She claimed she was being threatened right? Weird how she can claim she was being threatened and kill him, and everyone wants her locked up, but he claims verbal threats and kills someone, and I'm supposed to agree with him? So threats against men can be acted on? But not threats against women?
Penny held a chokehold long past causing Neely to be brain dead. Neely had no weapon… only a muffin. There was no fight, Penny snuck up behind him. Passengers left the train 4minutes before Penny finally let go. Penny is a wannabe hero murderer.
Smh. It seems this video wasnt listened to closely. The judge doing this makes perfect sense IF someone is fair minded. You can be made at the DA, but this is the type of situation that the DA is 99% or more the right to do.
Ugh. It seems this video wasnt listened to closely. The judge doing this makes perfect sense IF someone is fair minded. You can be made at the DA, but this is the type of situation that the DA is 99% or more the right to do. Let’s make decisions based on critical thinking and honestly and consistency, not what we hear from dishonest opinionated people and/or Basic forms of what we want to have happened instead of based on the critical thinking I mentioned.
No, it is not legal. The judge asked the state to provide case(s) twice and none provided. But, the judge allowed the motion to dismiss charge 1 during jury deliberation. Legal to drop BEFORE deliberation but this is not done. Penny will win appeal, but only after he spends 4 years in jail because appeals process slow. It’s thumbs on the scale, imo. SMH 🤦♀️
1. Decedant was alive when first responders arrived on scene. 2. It is a fact that those with sickle cell have died after a vigorous struggle (he/she is not used to), ie. wrestling or extreme physical exertion. He was struggling to break free from 3 men (not 1) holding him down for several minutes. 4. He didnt seem to be in optimum health & he was on drugs which can worsen ones physical condition (heart, organ function). 5. 1st responders didnt try to revive him with mouth to mouth either (responders have barrier devices so contagious diseases arent spread). 6. Most said what he did was necessary & they were in fear for their lives. One person (maybe twp people) said, "Stop youre killing him", but that was an assumption. For these reasons alone, I believe bringing this to trial was politically driven & he is not guilty.
Everything in this idiotic system has become either politically motivated or monetarily motivated ... or s9meone just wants a win...a notch on their bedpost!
Narcan was administered by LE at least twice. Penny did not kill this man. The prosecutor is a bolshi who gave a murder 1 conviction one yr in prison "because the convict is black". Her/his words.
I think the Prosecution asked that the judge NOT tell the jury the charge was dismissed but instead just tell them they are now free to consider Charge 2. So shady.
@@1LittleNonnaexactly at the same time BLM was out front telling people the case was dismissed and it was white supremacy. They had a blm guy in the courtroom. They threatened to burn the city. Whole clip on News Nation.
Great to see you both, I think its a disgrace that this young man was charged with anything. FYI Peter, Attorney Melanie Little has been covering this and actually went to court one day. Xx from Scotland ❤
I agree with what has already been said. No matter what in today’s America and the justice system do not help anyone in the public in any way. Which is such a tragedy
Lesson for everyone: Not worth helping in any situation. Cover your ASP. Such a waste of resources, lying of witnesses, manipulating words, the system, etc. WHERE WERE THESE PARENTS WHEN HE NEEDED THEM?! "Truth" is an oxymoron used in the the "justice" system, which is a joke! He threatened bodily harm. End of discussion. It's ALWAYS about money. ALWAYS.
Thank you Mr Penny for your service. I only found out today the victim was black and still commend anyone who will protect people. I’m a light skinned black person and the message I’m getting from society is that if a black person harms me let them because if I fight back I’ll be racist. What kind of crap is that?!?!?!
I watch you from the uk (wales) and watch court Tv with all their cases but do not understand your laws in America. so i always come to your channel because the way you and your dad (when on your channel) explain what your laws are i so appreciate your knowledge so thank you both for breakdown on American law from the uk x
If he was in the part of the country I live in this would never have even been considered as a crime let alone prosecuted. He was trying to keep others safe from a guy who was clearly a threat.
That’s what’s so disgustingly unfair about our world! You’re going to send someone who tried to help subway passengers, and people who steal in Target, shoot cops, shoot innocent people go free?? What is wrong with this scene?? Those people are absolutely disgusting!!
I have a brother who needs more help than what is available in this age range. The two men and bystanders should have been in this situation. The systems to help are just not in place. After covid it is bad. As a family member of a struggling person I feel horrible for all involved. My heart hurts for the charged man and the dead one too.
Note the propaganda in the news video. The salient fact about the man who was restrained on the subway is that he was an actively violent menace while on the subway. His homelessness is irrelevant to Daniel Penny restraining him.
Here, the Prosecutor just exposed the police to civil liabillity under 42 USC 1983 / Bivens. SCOTUS ruled in the last couple of terms that for purposes of false arrest and the like PC has to take completely independent analysis on each charge filed for purposes of analysing 1983. (e.g. there is now 1983 civil liabillity for overcharging) - such that the police are potentially liable under 1983 if the higher charge is dismissed regardless of conviction on a lesser included. Moreover, when the state dismisses upon their own motion that is an admission in the trial court that there was no valid PC for the charge so dismissed, such that the police cannot contend there was probable cause in the federal district court by way of res judicata.
@@annm9589Basically it used to be that you couldnt sue the police as long as the arresting officer had probable cause on at least one good charge and there was a finding of no probable cause (PC) on the others. Now each count charged goes up independently and seperately in federal district court for purposes of determining civil rights violations - the stuff of 42 USC 1983 and Bivens v Six Unknown agents. In short - SCOTUS said police are civilly liable for overcharging, and that overcharging is distinctly a 4th/14th amendment federal constitutional violation. In criminal law, when a count is dismissed and the state does not object thereto that is considered an admission by the state the charge was in fact defective - e.g. an implied admission in the criminal trial court that there is no probable cause to believe the charge true or counsel otherwise cannot continue to have good faith - such that the governments stated legal reason for failing to object to dismisding the count is itself material evidence as a matter of a Fed. R. Civ. P. Rule 11 Investigation. In turn thus means the police will find it quite difficult to defend in the federal civil rights case because of res judicata - which basically is a ground rule legal doctrine that says you never get a second bite at the factual apple in federal court where a fact is alreafy of state court record unless you can absolutely prove the fact in such a way that theres then no honestly reasonable case and controversey - Exception to the rule: Unless the statutory law requires the federal district court must review the case De Novo (literally as new - meaning the higher court is not bound by the lower courts determination of either fact or law), such as when the federal court is exercising mandamus juristiction, in habeas corpus pets, etc. What this means is that the police are now in a very precarious and extremely difficult to defend position if he then pops off and sues the police in federal court for a 4th /14th amendment false arrest type thing etc. In relationship to the top count even if hes rightfully convicted on the others.
What I’ve observed as a “TH-cam” juror (yes, I know that’s not a thing, just hear me out): 1- JURORS MOST LIKELY WILL OR DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OR INTENTION OF THE WORD “IMPEACH.” When either side is attempting to “impeach a witness” … it’s not ANNOUNCED… 😂 It’s not announced “I was successful at IMPEACHING THIS WITNESS.” Moreover… if it IS understood in regards to impeachment… are the jurors supposed to selectively disregard JUST THAT PART BEING IMPEACHED UPON… the whole testimony of a witness… or what the heck are they supposed to consider.. On the contrary, if a judge allows a wee bit of speaking objections, beyond “objection, can we approach,” and an attorney has allowed to say “OBJECTION improper impeachment,” … DOES A JUROR KNOW ANY OF WHAT JUST SAID ABOVE? 2- verdict slips are TOO CONFUSING! These have got to be put on LAY PERSON TERMS and or EXPLAINED as though any member of the LAY PUBLIC WOULD UNDERSTAND IT… if someone has confusion on a verdict slip THEY ARENT GOING TO RENDER A VERDICT without first arguing in that room “WHAT THEY FEEL THOSE SLIPS MEAN TO THEM,” it’s a WASTE of time to toss so much WORD SALAD INTO THE INSTRUCTIONS! I could go on but I’d rather listen to Peter and Papa T now… 😊
You are right about the word impeach 😂. It just means defense (or prosecution) can show a lie or inconsistent statement of a witness through cross examination.
People get pushed in front of trains on the NYC metro. Passengers are always aware that the next crazy person can show up at any time. There’s rarely law & order at the time of incident. NYC needs to clean up in a big way to restore public safety and confidence.
Should Penny have waited until McNeely assaulted someone first before doing something about it? Or should he have just let McNeely assault whoever he wanted and played on his phone until the train arrived at the station? This case is ridiculous. Nobody is going to want to step in and help now.
I LOVE when you and Big George discuss a case!! It’s my favorite!! I saw comments on another video about this on how people wouldn’t opt for a jury trial only a bench trial because of how people on these jury’s recently have been unpredictable 😬
Question: one party who assisted Penny on the train gave police a statement at the time of the incident. The man appears to bi-racial black and Hispanic. After the public out cry he admitted to going into hiding. Then Alvin Bragg offered him a deal and the party/witness changed his official statement. His statement then became beneficial for Bragg’s office to charge Penny. What do you make of a party to the incident changing his testimony so much to get a deal?
No you mean..having prosecutors charge him is where you're telling the public that they cannot defend themselves or others unless you're a certain minority. But if you're Caucasian you should never help unless you're helping out a certain minority. As a minority this is disgusting and I'm so so so sick of the race card
They later asked for a definition of "reasonable" don't forget Penny was a Marine, he already gave however many years, with the ingrained notion of serving others. Protecting others. He shouldn't be compared to people who have never served when it comes to what a reasonable person would do. He has a heightened perception of reasonable, and a residual sworn duty to protect complete strangers. His reasonable and every other veterans reasonable is definitely not the same as a normal citizens reasonable from the get-go.
It is very sad cameras are not allowed in NY courts. We do not know all the evidence that was presented, the motions to suppress, etc. so it’s so hard for us to know what really happed.
@@annm9589I didn’t say it was illegal I said it was sad they don’t allow them in NY courts. The public should be allowed in the courtrooms to film / stream. IMO.
I’ve seen & stopped robberies on the train. If there is any prison sentence it will only tell the public that they will not be kept safe & if they protect safety around them due to government failure they will be punished.
Excellent analysis! Look at the difference between the news talking heads covering at a somewhat superficial level versus this deep dive. Night and day… your audience loves it!
So let me get this straight.. The father wasn’t there when his son was in foster care at 14, or the 42 different counts of criminal charges, or when he was homeless begging for money on the train which led to this even happening. But all of a sudden when this becomes a big case, now he, the family, and the “community” cares? The father got upset because he can't milk money out of his dead son. Pathetic. The family wouldn't even allow the homeless street artist to live with them but had enough energy to come to court screaming how he was a great guy.
Michael Jackson impersonator was a threat to himself and others. Guy was a recidivist. Penny stepped up, and unfortunately the DA made this a political prosecution.
Thanks for this wonderful update 😀, but this could have changed the defense whole strategy in trial, The Defendant could have even maybe wanted to testify knowing that the biggest charge wasn't an option‼️ The prosecutors took all his rights from him the minute they decided to bring up this crazy idea to the Judge, and it was allowed, oh hell this should have NEVER gone to trial in the first place, what a dam shame ‼️ Just another corrupt DA office ‼️‼️
The prosecutor should stick with whatever charges that are originally brought. They should NOT be able to switch up when it's clear that they are about to lose. And the whole "lesser included" nonsense is no less than asinine. Pick a charge you believe fits...... and STICK with it. The "justice" system is overwhelmingly trash.
It’s really a tough decision to make when faced with a person who is mentally compromised, you have to make a choice. What if that day the decedent meant what he said, and killed people, and you did nothing? So unfortunate we don’t take mental health & the invasion of drug cartels in our country seriously. Open borders have amplified the drug use and destruction of US citizens. 😢 SAD
Look at how many times people pass by, or stand around, even videotaping on their phones when they see someone in trouble. The public screams, "Why didn't someone help her or him?" But this, right here, answers that question. He stepped in to protect others and look what happened to him.
100% agree with you. I was about to write the same comment.
Maybe the police should have gotten there faster
And now, just by being charged, (and people making his heroic actions into a matter of race) less and less individuals are going to be willing to risk their freedom to help someone who’s in fear for their life. And multiple witnesses (of different races) said they thought they were going to die that day before Daniel intervened. Just really sad this seemingly compromised prosecutor thought charges needed to be brought. A horrible precedent has now been set.
@@2112acjThey were on a subway.
I pray I would still step in regardless . God is the VINDICATOR in the end ! I don’t think I could live with myself otherwise ‼️‼️
I do not like the judge taking 1 charge away and having them focus on another one. That makes me think he wants them to charge him with something. Crazy
Yep just like Bev
Hopefully they are wise enough to see that.
Yeah. I agree. Whether it’s with a nefarious motive or not, my I’m-not-a-lawyer opinion is that it seems like it’s signaling the jury to convict regardless.
It seems to condone over charging. and if that doesn’t convict, prosecutors can say “ah well, just dismiss the charge, so what the entire trial was about proving said charge, pretend It didn’t exist and go with this other charge.” I’m from NY and It doesn’t give me much confidence in ANY of these shenanigans. The judge said, (when prosecutors asked to dismiss top charge) “can we do that?” Something to that effect. Crazy and scary.
Me too. Thy changed the previous ruling.
What gets me is the family so worried about those dead son ...where were they when they were really needed... Obvious they see money in their future lawsuit ...shameful and totally without merit..The man threatened to kill people in the train..
They want money. Lawsuit already filed.
Agreed!!!
Yup BLM is all over this
Exactly!! They just love him now! Where were they? he needed help! We care more for illegals than Americans, New York is a cesspool..
Father abandoned him as a child, not even taking him in when his mom was murdered. No other relative wanted him, so he was put in foster care.
I agree there should have been a mistrial. As a juror I would think they want me to convict.
I agree. This sounds like the prosecution and even the judge just want a conviction.
@@ChevyTraversetyOFjustice
Same thing happened
with Pres Trump! The judge gave the jury the CHOICE to convict on anything they felt they wanted, or something like that. It was and is a clown show in the NYC court system!
They ALWAYS want the jury to convict. But, this could backfire on them and the jurors may not convict him of anything... most people don't like feeling like someone is trying to essentially trick them.
It sure appears that way. It seems This judge wants a conviction more than the prosecution. He should have called a mistrial. Poor jurors.
@@smokymtnlady3856 it was that the jury didn't have to all agree on the same thing for guilt. Each jury member could have a different reason for finding him guilty. The judge was loon
All should have been dismissed.
This should never had gone to trial.
Penny held a chokehold long past causing Neely to be brain dead. Neely had no weapon… only a muffin. There was no fight, Penny snuck up behind him. Passengers left the train 4minutes before Penny finally let go.
@@anomad6314 Nobody knew at the time he didn't have a weapon. Why should someone wait until a gun is pulled out or someone is injured to act?
Play stupid games.......I'm sure he was a future engineer, right?
@@lavenderface9875 threats don't warrant a public execution. Penny has just been acquitted. The world has gone completely mad.
@@lavenderface9875 When the cops arrived, Neely was already brain dead. Neely wasn't much of a threat, just screaming for food and he had no weapon, nor did he attack anyone. Some of those same passengers told Penny to ease up or he would kill him. Penny continued the chokehold long after everyone left the train and for 51 seconds after Neely stopped moving, so he was protecting no one. Penny also refused to testify. The jury were cowards. Penny is a low-life hero-wannabe murderer and you are his fan.
I live in NY. Should have cameras in courtroom.
Another New Yorker here I agree.
Third New Yorker here and I couldn’t agree more. We need to pressure out justice system to change this.
@@AvalonCNVoting out DA Bragg would be a good start.
@@linwei-lee110 he has nothing to do with the ban. It is a state ban, not the city.
I’m in MT and we don’t either… yet you should see what trial they *DID* just air *PUBLICLY.* 🤯
I saw his police interrogation + he literally wasn’t a violent man! He was trying to HELP PPL! If I was on that train, I would WANT a brave man to help until police got there! The victim was high on drugs!!! This is what police go through with out of control drug users who get super strength!!!
He was also a severe schizophrenic having a psychotic break with a history of violent, unprovoked attacks.
Really, well so was the perception people felt towards, Ted Bundy. In fact, one of his victims sat on his lap, during an interrogation session. So, I’d be willing to take a deeper dive, into my stance on murders. Are you swayed by your emotions and an imposed self righteous perception, on the situation or an actual knowledge/ relationship of Mr. Penny. Just curious.
@@Everyoneisanartist776nice try 😂
Drugs don’t give you super strength, that’s a myth
@@adamscruton2972 They don’t give you “super strength” but they suppress certain receptors in your brain that do give you the ability to continue being violent and aggressive.
It’s sickening that he is on trail for this! He did the right thing.
We can send the military overseas to fight for us. We draw the line when they protect us on our own land against our own people. He’s innocent. He’s been trained to serve and protect by our own government! This is outrageous
Excellent point!
You are absolutely correct and there is nothing controversial about this acquittal. He should’ve been given a medal…not criminally charged. Not to mention 2 other men (not white) helped him hold the guy down, yet Penny is the only one charged?!? It is a disgrace.
The first responders supervisor testified he would NOT allow his people to give lifesaving measures because he didn't want his people catching any diseases, so why aren't they on the hook??? Neely was still breathing when officers arrived.
First responders did give lifesaving treatment.
The Leo’s did not have the lip seals yo provide cpr via mouth. I imagine they did chest compressions if needed.
@@annm9589the police or EMT/Paramedic did not have lio seals?❤
@@DaveReece-u4bwhich first responders? How was CPR performed?❤
@@annm9589 Why would they give chest compression to someone with a pulse and who was breathing?
Thank God there's at least 1 sensible person in that jury room.
What the one holding out?
I’m sure there’s more than one who doesn’t want to convict. This case should have never gone to trial but it did. And after 4 days of deliberations the judge should have declared a mistrial. I’m curious to see what sentence he gets if he is convicted on the lesser included charges?? This judge is out to get this guy imo.
@@carolsisti7203yep, we don’t know the split- it could be only one who wants to convict. I don’t think this case should have been prosecuted IMO. I really wish there were cameras in the courtroom.
@@tmhamer3086 only one is holding out, they had BLM in the courtroom.
May those who have dug in for not guilty stand strong.
When Jordan Neely was alive, NYC couldn't be bothered to do anything for him. But now that he's dead, they suddenly care deeply about his wellbeing.
Exactly!
Gotta feed that privately owned for profit prison system🫡🤢
Great point👍
Every witness said they were afraid & testified Mr. Penny saved them.
False
If he doesn’t go free, why would anyone help in a bad situation? We will all be in danger.
Exactly! So I see a woman being attacked on the Subway and I keep walking? Is that message the state wants to give? Pathetic..what’s happened to society ?
Also these people couldn’t retreat they were locked in a train!
@ yes!!
Never ever ever help anyone. This is not the first time our courts have punished someone severly for helping.
After this, I would not do anything but call 911 and/or give someone a water bottle (maybe)!
The fact that Neely had a pulse when the police arrived but they refused to administer CPR because they wouldn't touch him wouldn't that make them criminally negligent????
No, it’s NYC the Leo’s can contract HiV and all sorts of stuff. This is not their only interaction of the day. If they don’t have lip seals I’m sure they do chest compressions if needed.
You do not contract HIV by touching or even mouth to mouth
He was not dead at the scene.
@@1LittleNonna oh yeah! I always forget that CPR is done to bring someone back. Thank you!
I believe CPR should have been administered immediately if that could’ve saved his life. So that’s the case, those LE officers were definitely negligent. 🤷♀️
I absolutely hate that the system is so very rigged. It's almost impossible to fight and win.
This is not about justice! This is about winning, just getting a conviction. How is this not a highly prejudicial action by the judge? Even his words in making the decision were jaw dropping. This opens the door for prosecutors in the future to overcharge without consequence. Also, the proscution have already open stated that Daniel justifiably intervened and used appropriate force to restrain Jordan. Their argument was that Daniel should have let go a little earlier. About 90 seconds or so. The prosecution introduced race into it. So this is clearly not a race issue. Are they trying to say that Daniel decided to hang on an extra 90 seconds just because he was black? Give me a break.
Exactly. Daniel had a big coat on and I am sure he thought his grip wasn't tight. There is a case in Milwaukee wisconsin about this same issue. Mattioli/Acevedo case. ❤😊
Werent the other 2 men holding him down men of color?
Exactly. If DP was black or JN was white, this either would never have gone to trial or we wouldn't be hearing about it. I'm so tired of situations like this being turned into a racial issue when it's obviously not.
Ugh the race card is getting old. Our country is a combination of all races religions etc. All lives matter but race should not be a factor in this case. Period
Considering who the DA is, no surprise there!
Oh for goodness sake! Another costly unnecessary second trial.?!?! This case and the Karen Read Case are infuriating me
Absolutely!! Corruption, woke nonsense and I am afraid of my own country and legal system! I am outraged!
Shouldn't have gone to trial.
This is Alan Bragg looking for a conviction. This never should have been charged.
something needs to be done about Bragg
@@kristenpino4635 soros is lin8ng Braggs Silk Pockets! It's not a secret either!
Alan Bragg should be charged at this point. He needs to be fired.
They are trying so hard to convict DP. That effort should have been made to take that deadbeat off the streets. He had so many priors. His family now lookin for a payday. People seekin justice for the decedant. Where were they and his family when he was attacking/assaulting people?
And when he needed a place to live; and care. Poor thing.
If I were on the jury, there would be a mistrial. There is No One who would convince me to ruin someone's life by compromising on charges for something I don't feel the person should have been charged for. I don't care if it's probation or life - I'm not voting guilty if I don't think they are.
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Same. The jury has put in enough time. It’s a mistrial.
You would not make it thru jury screening 😂. Little too obvious
@jp__878 This type of integrity should be exactly what they're looking for in a juror.
So happy that Big George will be giving his opinion too! Frustrating that we haven’t been able to watch this trial.
The prosecutor refers to Penny as the White man.
It feels to me as though the Prosecutors' can stack the deck or have two bites of the same apple - that doesn't seem fair to me.
And I can't fathom why the jury is struggling? This case should have never happened. The Marine was not trying to kill this man. His training would have made that happen in very quick order. He was simply trying to help secure him from harming others. This man had already harmed others. And he was high as a kite and threatening people. And people on that train were afraid.
The color of skin for either is not relevant. But the protesters and activists made it the ONLY element!
Well said!
100%
I am very white and I think skin color is an issue.
I love when you have your Dad here!
This is so stupid. The judge is sending a message…Now the jury feels compelled to convict on the other charges. Who the hell wants to take public transportation now?
Yep. Now every person who does feels a little less safe. Even if Penny is found not guilty, the damage has already been done. His name and reputation ruined. And for what? Trying to help his fellow citizens who were being seriously threatened? And what really gets me about this is that because I know about this prosecutor and her focus on race, I have no doubt that Penny wouldn’t have been charged if Neely had happened to have been white. A factor that I have no doubt played zero part in Pennys actions.
If a judge can remove charges after case is entirely argued OVER that charge, as a juror i would find NG and think that it wasnt serious to begin with.
I feel like the prosecutors just wanted a conviction ..not caring on what charge !
Same ish different day for Alvin Bragg in NY. When a crime hasn’t been committed, they just change the law! The US constitution apparently doesn’t apply there.
@djholliday5132 the " ex post facto" clause is the alleged protection against being charged under a new law.l, or even an amended portion of a law! The problem is...not many attorneys remember there is such a clause!
@elanak83 from what I've seen over the past 4 years, 99 % of prosecutors are acting like they have stats to add to some pretend trading card issue. It's only about the win....disregarding the fact that there are real humans that had productive lives in many cases. Then they were charged with a crime that is the end of what little savings ...and hopes and dreams they had before the politicized DA and their games began. It has nothing to do with "justice" in the majority of cases...just name recognition and climbing the political ladder !
@@KittyGonzalez-bc8ee Good info. These corrupt traitors do what they like with impunity.
I am so happy you are going over this case. I’m surprised they charged him. Now if you ever need help, will someone help or fear they may go to jail.
You're surprised the racebaiters in NY charged him? White man kills unarmed black man totally fits their narrative that America is racist.
As a female 37:25 college student I would hope someone like Daniel Penny would protect me given the same circumstances!! Women and children need to be protected NYC is a scary place NG
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Absolutely!!!! This sets a terrible precedent. Now, brave men like Penny & others will think twice before helping others.
I agree. That’s why people don’t get involved with LE. They don’t come forward out of fear of being sidelined. Our judicial system is so flawed it makes me sick.
Exactly!
You mean killing others @@JP-su1eg
Thank you, Peter and Papa Tragos, for bringing clarity to this situation.
IMO He shouldn't have been charged at ALL! This will just make it so no one will step up and HELP! 😮😮
Penny held a chokehold long past causing Neely to be brain dead. Neely had no weapon… only a muffin. There was no fight, Penny snuck up behind him. Passengers left the train 4minutes before Penny finally let go.
@@anomad6314if you can breathe on your own, you’re not brain dead.
Never should have been charged.
Agree
Keep that same energy with all threatened people. No abused women or claimed to be abused women, should ever be locked up right?! Guess we have to overturn Sarah boones case now? She claimed she was being threatened right? Weird how she can claim she was being threatened and kill him, and everyone wants her locked up, but he claims verbal threats and kills someone, and I'm supposed to agree with him? So threats against men can be acted on? But not threats against women?
Exactly
New York is so corrupt. This guy is innocent.
Penny held a chokehold long past causing Neely to be brain dead. Neely had no weapon… only a muffin. There was no fight, Penny snuck up behind him. Passengers left the train 4minutes before Penny finally let go. Penny is a wannabe hero murderer.
COPE!
The judge put his hand on the scales of justice in granting the prosecutors manipulation tactics to coerce a verdict
Smh. It seems this video wasnt listened to closely. The judge doing this makes perfect sense IF someone is fair minded. You can be made at the DA, but this is the type of situation that the DA is 99% or more the right to do.
Ugh. It seems this video wasnt listened to closely. The judge doing this makes perfect sense IF someone is fair minded. You can be made at the DA, but this is the type of situation that the DA is 99% or more the right to do.
Let’s make decisions based on critical thinking and honestly and consistency, not what we hear from dishonest opinionated people and/or Basic forms of what we want to have happened instead of based on the critical thinking I mentioned.
Is it even legal what the judge did? I hope the defense comes back with case law saying it wasn’t legal,
No, it is not legal. The judge asked the state to provide case(s) twice and none provided. But, the judge allowed the motion to dismiss charge 1 during jury deliberation. Legal to drop BEFORE deliberation but this is not done. Penny will win appeal, but only after he spends 4 years in jail because appeals process slow. It’s thumbs on the scale, imo. SMH 🤦♀️
Yes it is legal.
They won't decide if it was legal or illegal unless he is found guilty and this goes to appeal.
Can't wait to hear you guys about this!
Thank you Peter and your Dad for providing your input in this. You’re the one I go to for all the info!! ❤️
If I were a juror and this happened, I would not convict.
1. Decedant was alive when first responders arrived on scene. 2. It is a fact that those with sickle cell have died after a vigorous struggle (he/she is not used to), ie. wrestling or extreme physical exertion. He was struggling to break free from 3 men (not 1) holding him down for several minutes. 4. He didnt seem to be in optimum health & he was on drugs which can worsen ones physical condition (heart, organ function). 5. 1st responders didnt try to revive him with mouth to mouth either (responders have barrier devices so contagious diseases arent spread). 6. Most said what he did was necessary & they were in fear for their lives. One person (maybe twp people) said, "Stop youre killing him", but that was an assumption. For these reasons alone, I believe bringing this to trial was politically driven & he is not guilty.
Everything in this idiotic system has become either politically motivated or monetarily motivated ... or s9meone just wants a win...a notch on their bedpost!
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You know nothing about sickle cell.
Narcan was administered by LE at least twice. Penny did not kill this man. The prosecutor is a bolshi who gave a murder 1 conviction one yr in prison "because the convict is black". Her/his words.
@@dsoule4902 He had synthetic marijuana in his system. So, narcan would not do much since it works on different receptors (mu-opioid)
The US system is a mess.
U smelle liek a trader, r u?
I think the Prosecution asked that the judge NOT tell the jury the charge was dismissed but instead just tell them they are now free to consider Charge 2. So shady.
I believe I was mistaken. Based on Inner City Press coverage from inside the courtroom, the judge did tell the jury Count 1 was dismissed.
@@beththompson417 Still shady.
@@1LittleNonnaexactly at the same time BLM was out front telling people the case was dismissed and it was white supremacy. They had a blm guy in the courtroom. They threatened to burn the city. Whole clip on News Nation.
Great to see you both, I think its a disgrace that this young man was charged with anything. FYI Peter, Attorney Melanie Little has been covering this and actually went to court one day. Xx from Scotland ❤
please, stay there
I completely agree with you, Eileen. Sending love to Scotland ❤
I agree with what has already been said. No matter what in today’s America and the justice system do not help anyone in the public in any way. Which is such a tragedy
Not even the cops want to help, in Trump’s America, ur on your own.
Lesson for everyone: Not worth helping in any situation. Cover your ASP. Such a waste of resources, lying of witnesses, manipulating words, the system, etc. WHERE WERE THESE PARENTS WHEN HE NEEDED THEM?! "Truth" is an oxymoron used in the the "justice" system, which is a joke! He threatened bodily harm. End of discussion. It's ALWAYS about money. ALWAYS.
Im "heated" too, @Peter. Same reason I would not make a good police officer, I could not be a Lawyer. I already get so frustrated by injustices
Hello everyone. Wish Daniel Penny wasn’t even charged
Thank you Mr Penny for your service. I only found out today the victim was black and still commend anyone who will protect people.
I’m a light skinned black person and the message I’m getting from society is that if a black person harms me let them because if I fight back I’ll be racist. What kind of crap is that?!?!?!
I watch you from the uk (wales) and watch court Tv with all their cases but do not understand your laws in America. so i always come to your channel because the way you and your dad (when on your channel) explain what your laws are i so appreciate your knowledge so thank you both for breakdown on American law from the uk x
I really appreciate when you collaborate with your dad and I appreciate that you don’t always agree.
If he was in the part of the country I live in this would never have even been considered as a crime let alone prosecuted. He was trying to keep others safe from a guy who was clearly a threat.
Never should have went to trial Penny deserves a Medal for his actions...not a political 💩 show
A very politically well timed prosecution. It is a disgrace to our justice system & nation.
That’s what’s so disgustingly unfair about our world! You’re going to send someone who tried to help subway passengers, and people who steal in Target, shoot cops, shoot innocent people go free?? What is wrong with this scene?? Those people are absolutely disgusting!!
He killed someone stupid
@@joeyh9116he didn't. He was alive when the police got there, police let him die because they were afraid he had a communicable diease
I have a brother who needs more help than what is available in this age range. The two men and bystanders should have been in this situation. The systems to help are just not in place. After covid it is bad. As a family member of a struggling person I feel horrible for all involved. My heart hurts for the charged man and the dead one too.
This is a very balanced, empathetic outlook. ❤
Thank you Peter and Papa T for breaking this down.
So loved listening to you and Papa Tragos discuss this Peter. Thanking you both😊🙏
Note the propaganda in the news video. The salient fact about the man who was restrained on the subway is that he was an actively violent menace while on the subway. His homelessness is irrelevant to Daniel Penny restraining him.
Here, the Prosecutor just exposed the police to civil liabillity under 42 USC 1983 / Bivens.
SCOTUS ruled in the last couple of terms that for purposes of false arrest and the like PC has to take completely independent analysis on each charge filed for purposes of analysing 1983. (e.g. there is now 1983 civil liabillity for overcharging) - such that the police are potentially liable under 1983 if the higher charge is dismissed regardless of conviction on a lesser included.
Moreover, when the state dismisses upon their own motion that is an admission in the trial court that there was no valid PC for the charge so dismissed, such that the police cannot contend there was probable cause in the federal district court by way of res judicata.
Thank you! Great comment!
Not sure I get it but sounds interesting 🤨
@@annm9589Basically it used to be that you couldnt sue the police as long as the arresting officer had probable cause on at least one good charge and there was a finding of no probable cause (PC) on the others.
Now each count charged goes up independently and seperately in federal district court for purposes of determining civil rights violations - the stuff of 42 USC 1983 and Bivens v Six Unknown agents. In short - SCOTUS said police are civilly liable for overcharging, and that overcharging is distinctly a 4th/14th amendment federal constitutional violation.
In criminal law, when a count is dismissed and the state does not object thereto that is considered an admission by the state the charge was in fact defective - e.g. an implied admission in the criminal trial court that there is no probable cause to believe the charge true or counsel otherwise cannot continue to have good faith - such that the governments stated legal reason for failing to object to dismisding the count is itself material evidence as a matter of a Fed. R. Civ. P. Rule 11 Investigation.
In turn thus means the police will find it quite difficult to defend in the federal civil rights case because of res judicata - which basically is a ground rule legal doctrine that says you never get a second bite at the factual apple in federal court where a fact is alreafy of state court record unless you can absolutely prove the fact in such a way that theres then no honestly reasonable case and controversey - Exception to the rule: Unless the statutory law requires the federal district court must review the case De Novo (literally as new - meaning the higher court is not bound by the lower courts determination of either fact or law), such as when the federal court is exercising mandamus juristiction, in habeas corpus pets, etc.
What this means is that the police are now in a very precarious and extremely difficult to defend position if he then pops off and sues the police in federal court for a 4th /14th amendment false arrest type thing etc. In relationship to the top count even if hes rightfully convicted on the others.
What I’ve observed as a “TH-cam” juror (yes, I know that’s not a thing, just hear me out):
1- JURORS MOST LIKELY WILL OR DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OR INTENTION OF THE WORD “IMPEACH.”
When either side is attempting to “impeach a witness” … it’s not ANNOUNCED… 😂
It’s not announced “I was successful at IMPEACHING THIS WITNESS.”
Moreover… if it IS understood in regards to impeachment… are the jurors supposed to selectively disregard JUST THAT PART BEING IMPEACHED UPON… the whole testimony of a witness… or what the heck are they supposed to consider..
On the contrary, if a judge allows a wee bit of speaking objections, beyond “objection, can we approach,” and an attorney has allowed to say “OBJECTION improper impeachment,” … DOES A JUROR KNOW ANY OF WHAT JUST SAID ABOVE?
2- verdict slips are TOO CONFUSING! These have got to be put on LAY PERSON TERMS and or EXPLAINED as though any member of the LAY PUBLIC WOULD UNDERSTAND IT… if someone has confusion on a verdict slip THEY ARENT GOING TO RENDER A VERDICT without first arguing in that room “WHAT THEY FEEL THOSE SLIPS MEAN TO THEM,” it’s a WASTE of time to toss so much WORD SALAD INTO THE INSTRUCTIONS!
I could go on but I’d rather listen to Peter and Papa T now… 😊
You are right about the word impeach 😂. It just means defense (or prosecution) can show a lie or inconsistent statement of a witness through cross examination.
@@annm9589 thank you for clarifying
People get pushed in front of trains on the NYC metro. Passengers are always aware that the next crazy person can show up at any time. There’s rarely law & order at the time of incident. NYC needs to clean up in a big way to restore public safety and confidence.
Thank you for covering this
Penny is a HERO! Justice needed! ❤ listening to you & your Dad!
Heroes don't ill unarmed people for verbally assaulting people on a train. He's a coward.
Heroes don't sneak up behind someone who is talking shit and choke them out for 6 minutes. Your definition of "hero" is rather interesting.
@@joeyh9116 Neely had innocent passengers that day afraid for their lives.
Penny deserves an apology, a parade, and a few medals
No cameras in NY courts
Should Penny have waited until McNeely assaulted someone first before doing something about it? Or should he have just let McNeely assault whoever he wanted and played on his phone until the train arrived at the station? This case is ridiculous. Nobody is going to want to step in and help now.
I LOVE when you and Big George discuss a case!! It’s my favorite!! I saw comments on another video about this on how people wouldn’t opt for a jury trial only a bench trial because of how people on these jury’s recently have been unpredictable 😬
Question: one party who assisted Penny on the train gave police a statement at the time of the incident. The man appears to bi-racial black and Hispanic. After the public out cry he admitted to going into hiding. Then Alvin Bragg offered him a deal and the party/witness changed his official statement. His statement then became beneficial for Bragg’s office to charge Penny. What do you make of a party to the incident changing his testimony so much to get a deal?
Thats Subbernation, perjury, witness tampering, as well as possibly fraud.
Wouldn't his previous testimony be evidence to impeach the witness?
Love you broke this down was reading about this case this morning for first time.
If he’s sent to prison the Judge is telling people they shouldn’t help others.
No you mean..having prosecutors charge him is where you're telling the public that they cannot defend themselves or others unless you're a certain minority. But if you're Caucasian you should never help unless you're helping out a certain minority. As a minority this is disgusting and I'm so so so sick of the race card
@H37P5kY57 I agree. They are saying Penny restrained Neely because of his skin color. Absolutely insane!
@@H37P5kY57that is the message democrats push
Thank U 4 your considerate coverage
They later asked for a definition of "reasonable" don't forget Penny was a Marine, he already gave however many years, with the ingrained notion of serving others. Protecting others. He shouldn't be compared to people who have never served when it comes to what a reasonable person would do. He has a heightened perception of reasonable, and a residual sworn duty to protect complete strangers. His reasonable and every other veterans reasonable is definitely not the same as a normal citizens reasonable from the get-go.
Excellent point 💯
It is very sad cameras are not allowed in NY courts. We do not know all the evidence that was presented, the motions to suppress, etc. so it’s so hard for us to know what really happed.
There are people that were in the courtroom reporting on X what was presented in the courtroom.
It’s not illegal, just the judges never allow it and say “sure go ahead and film”
@@annm9589I didn’t say it was illegal I said it was sad they don’t allow them in NY courts. The public should be allowed in the courtrooms to film / stream. IMO.
@ oh I agree, but I think ppl should know it’s judges disgression and they just don’t choose to do it
I’ve seen & stopped robberies on the train. If there is any prison sentence it will only tell the public that they will not be kept safe & if they protect safety around them due to government failure they will be punished.
13:52 I love that I've never heard of this company before. Thank you Peter. Loving the sponsors🎉❤
I love it when Dad weighs in!
Oh I am absolutely glued to this case now too!
I am so confused what happened! So happy for this live!!
Dying to hear what he has to say about DA/judge dismissing the first count.
Thanks for letting us eavesdrop on your usual "shoptalk" at Tragos, Sartes, & Tragos. 😀
Thanks Peter and Papa Tragos
Excellent analysis! Look at the difference between the news talking heads covering at a somewhat superficial level versus this deep dive. Night and day… your audience loves it!
Thank you for discussing this.
Thanks Peter!
The judge didnt even know what to do. He kept asking the Prosecutor what he should do 🤦♀️
Thank you for what you all do on this channel
IMHO a hung jury is a not guilty verdict. Essentially if the jury can’t agree then there is definitely reasonable doubt.
I totally agree that is how it should be
Thank you so much George.❤🎉😊
So let me get this straight.. The father wasn’t there when his son was in foster care at 14, or the 42 different counts of criminal charges, or when he was homeless begging for money on the train which led to this even happening. But all of a sudden when this becomes a big case, now he, the family, and the “community” cares? The father got upset because he can't milk money out of his dead son. Pathetic. The family wouldn't even allow the homeless street artist to live with them but had enough energy to come to court screaming how he was a great guy.
Fascinating conversation you just had...learned so much, thank you for such rich information! ❤
I have to work tomorrow at 6:00 am EST, so I’ll be on the #rewatch crew
Thank you Peter and papa T Melanie little covered this as well unfortunately no cameras allowed in court room in NY
Thank you, Peter & George!!
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Love hearing from Papa T!
Thanks for letting us know what is happening. He was trying to help the people on the bus.
Thanks Peter and Papa T…. Love this break down!!! Blessings for You Both!!!
Michael Jackson impersonator was a threat to himself and others. Guy was a recidivist. Penny stepped up, and unfortunately the DA made this a political prosecution.
Thanks for this wonderful update 😀, but this could have changed the defense whole strategy in trial, The Defendant could have even maybe wanted to testify knowing that the biggest charge wasn't an option‼️ The prosecutors took all his rights from him the minute they decided to bring up this crazy idea to the Judge, and it was allowed, oh hell this should have NEVER gone to trial in the first place, what a dam shame ‼️ Just another corrupt DA office ‼️‼️
The prosecutor should stick with whatever charges that are originally brought. They should NOT be able to switch up when it's clear that they are about to lose. And the whole "lesser included" nonsense is no less than asinine. Pick a charge you believe fits...... and STICK with it. The "justice" system is overwhelmingly trash.
These judges are incorrigible! They want some type of conviction no matter what!
The only want a conviction if your a white person
You two are awesome. I remember in years past, in my 20’s a long time ago. I was told you need to always have a good lawyer & doctor on speed dial ❤
It’s really a tough decision to make when faced with a person who is mentally compromised, you have to make a choice. What if that day the decedent meant what he said, and killed people, and you did nothing? So unfortunate we don’t take mental health & the invasion of drug cartels in our country seriously. Open borders have amplified the drug use and destruction of US citizens. 😢 SAD
Great insight from Papa Tragos! Thanks Peter, was not familiar with this one but it’s a definitely interesting one.