My God. Why does this man have under 200 upvotes?! This is quite possibly the very best toolbelt comparison video that I have ever seen. It is thorough, impartial, objective, and practical. All without needless anecdotes, cries of "smash that like button", and stupid theatrics, marketing tie-ins, or theme music. Primo, just on this one video alone, you have my 👍👍 and viewership
Finally a real world diamondback review! I'm in a similar boat being that I'm looking at them but can't find sufficient footage of them in use or being used. Hard to pull the trigger on something that expensive with only basic stock photos on a website. Thank you for this video.
So far my journey is from OL to DB too.I work as a old stone houses renovator in Spain and my job is very diverse.One day I am on the roof and the next day I have to do trim work.The OL made it difficult to me,specially the indoor works.The pouches are plenty of space and because of that it made me run into everything.DB Artisan pouches are tight and it doesn´t make you a turkey but some pockets and spots are too tight.Because virtue is the happy medium between two extremes Badger tool belts seems(not sure,I never try) to solve this problem. Nice,honest and real life review
I’m from the US but I just spent some time in Spain, that sounds like an amazing job you have. The older homes are so interesting, it’s great you are renovating them.
I've got Occidental stuff from 25+ years ago that I still use. The sheepskin hip pads are awesome. They make a set that can/does work with any belt/pouch setup as well as the integrated one. I have a few different setups depending on elec. plumbing. etc. etc. etc. I prefer the leather gear over the nylon/poly as it breaks in and feels great. I'm posh like that. I have a few old OLD leather pouches that are still going strong. The leather isn't as heavy as the Occidental, but perfect for elec and plumbing parts. One is Abco (now Abcogear). I'm not sure if the new stuff is beefier or not.
THANK YOU!!!! I’m in the place you were. I’m an electrician, and I’ve been a fan and customer of Occidental leather bags for year! But I’ve been more and more interested in trying Diamondback bags. Being from Oakland, CA, there aren’t any retailers nearby that I can go to and try them out. And the website doesn’t give a lot of description. So thanks for taking ur time and showing all of the comparisons. Between the two brands, empty bags vs loaded bags, pros and cons, likes and dislikes, etc. much appreciated. I think I going to buy a set of Diamondbacks!😳
Nice Mano a Mano comparison. You must be a boxing fan because you went from the weigh-in to the blow by blow. Nice review, personally I have never had any luck with cordura, nylon bags. I’m an Occidental leather with the Stronghold suspenders convert.
What are your thoughts on the OxyLights? Which set do you have? I'm looking at the OxyLights 7 bag framer. But not 100% how long did yours take to soften up?
Jack Gibson Thanks for reaching out. I have the 5191 rig which is full leather which are solid leather. If you oil them they soften sooner than if you keep them dry. Just like breaking in new boots or a ball glove. The Oxy-lights do not require this break in period and weigh about half of the full leather, but they are prone to puncture and cut damage. I recommend the hard plastic sleeves for you utility knife or chisel. Worth the investment. If I was going to buy a new rig, I would go with the Buckaroo belt and the Black fat lip Oxy- light bags.
this was a outstanding review my friend i have all was been a occidental man do to my dad giving me his occy's when i started working. but none the less excellent job
So quick question for you. Does that buckle on the belt cut into your stomach a little bit at all? Just asking for us handsomely husky boys out on the job sites.
Thanks for the post... as a side note, I have had two OL framer and electrician belts for the past 25 years and other then aged leather, they are still running great. I am quite weary of the DB material as it is similar to my military webbing of years gone by... it wore overtime and the corners ended up tearing. IMO, leather withstands time much better then material. Note that OL has a horizontal setup and the DB has a vertical setup. Depends what you like but for me vertical involves bending to the side for access. Lastly, OL has light suspenders as well. Great review on both belts.
I have had both. I started with Occidental leather first in the early 90s. That set that lasted for about 10 years. The bad part about leather is that the corners wore out and stuff would leak out. They wore like iron and conformed to you like well worn gloves. I tried diamond back around 2002. They are very comfortable also. They have too many pockets compared to ol. I thought that they would not last as long, but was wrong. They got ratty and worn but never had holes or did they ever RIP. They lasted for about 12 years. The buckle was plastic and lost its strength. I would bend over and the buckle would release and fall off. The buckle was the reason I switched to an all cordura Occidental leather tool belt next. I've worn that one for the past 4 years and have just recently switched back to my old diamond back tool belt. That hammer holder is the best thing going. The ultimate tool belt would have features of both companies. Ol has specific spots for specific tools. Db has generic pockets that let you put tools and fasteners any way you like. Sometimes tools dont fit in them as well. It is very hard to pick a winner here.... I just ordered a new diamond back set in that new tan color. Now I wont have to decide, I will have both.
dsgrayco - lollll way to go with the tan DB and lucky you to have the best of both worlds. I know about that hammer holder... very innovative and worth it... in my case, the hammer head sticks out a little and I can't take the chance of knocking or hitting walls or furniture (institutional work) so a back model is preferred. Haven't had holes in my belts yet. Like you said, with age they get very comfy. When they wear, and if they do while I am still wearing bags, I'll take a look at other brands. I don't think this will happen anytime soon though. But I must admit, leather bags are really what I like... that smell, the aging and how they fit when broken in. Can't seem to find that in material type bags. Good luck with your DB's.
For that big open left pouch I use a 9501 clip on and it works to separate it into three different pouches for example the sides for pliers or tools and the middle for fasteners. And I can still use the speed square slot too.
Paco Casarrubias the 9501 appears to be a single pouch with a belt clip. I am looking for a clip on bag where the bag itself has two or three separators in it that form pockets. Like the fastener outer bag is separated into two pockets. Thanks for the reply.
Hi , thanks for great video and comparison , the Oxy seem to be higher up hips and the diamondbacks seem to hang a long way down as you state at end of video , what is the difference between hang on hips 2 to 3 inch? from oxy to DB
Whats up man thanks for the video i love my occidentals to but how do you keep the suspenders in place like that mine want to slide off i have to be careful and readjust them everytime i put them on i still love them once they are adjusted they speak for themselves but just curios what you do
If you ever wind up getting the vest to replace the diamondback suspenders review that. Currently I'm using tradegear, which is okay. It's too wide to walk in between studs though and wish there were more pockets.
hey man great vid. quick question. Do the Diamondback toolbelts hang low beside your legs? they look long... lets say you are doing trim work. do they get in your way?
What leather conditioner you use on you occidental bag? I have the same one and been thinking of switch over to a diamondback belt ... been looking for this video
spyderx92 I used my leather boot conditioner from Danner ! Honestly any boot conditioner is better than no conditioner it will keep the leather from cracking. Thx for watching the video!!!
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My God.
Why does this man have under 200 upvotes?! This is quite possibly the very best toolbelt comparison video that I have ever seen. It is thorough, impartial, objective, and practical. All without needless anecdotes, cries of "smash that like button", and stupid theatrics, marketing tie-ins, or theme music.
Primo, just on this one video alone, you have my 👍👍 and viewership
Thanks Sir much appreciated it!!
Cause people be riding occidentals nuts
The best & only comparison video on TH-cam! Thank you for taking the time to make a great quality video. Cant wait for more vids
Finally a real world diamondback review! I'm in a similar boat being that I'm looking at them but can't find sufficient footage of them in use or being used. Hard to pull the trigger on something that expensive with only basic stock photos on a website. Thank you for this video.
thank you more videos coming soon
So far my journey is from OL to DB too.I work as a old stone houses renovator in Spain and my job is very diverse.One day I am on the roof and the next day I have to do trim work.The OL made it difficult to me,specially the indoor works.The pouches are plenty of space and because of that it made me run into everything.DB Artisan pouches are tight and it doesn´t make you a turkey but some pockets and spots are too tight.Because virtue is the happy medium between two extremes Badger tool belts seems(not sure,I never try) to solve this problem.
Nice,honest and real life review
I’m from the US but I just spent some time in Spain, that sounds like an amazing job you have. The older homes are so interesting, it’s great you are renovating them.
Occidental all the way the extra 4 lbs is nothing. Im a carpenter and appreciate a well made tool belt. I have the pro framer all leather
Hey Jason, did you see the new brand REX TOOL BAGS? What kind of work are you doing for living?
I've got Occidental stuff from 25+ years ago that I still use. The sheepskin hip pads are awesome. They make a set that can/does work with any belt/pouch setup as well as the integrated one. I have a few different setups depending on elec. plumbing. etc. etc. etc.
I prefer the leather gear over the nylon/poly as it breaks in and feels great. I'm posh like that.
I have a few old OLD leather pouches that are still going strong. The leather isn't as heavy as the Occidental, but perfect for elec and plumbing parts. One is Abco (now Abcogear). I'm not sure if the new stuff is beefier or not.
THANK YOU!!!! I’m in the place you were. I’m an electrician, and I’ve been a fan and customer of Occidental leather bags for year! But I’ve been more and more interested in trying Diamondback bags. Being from Oakland, CA, there aren’t any retailers nearby that I can go to and try them out. And the website doesn’t give a lot of description. So thanks for taking ur time and showing all of the comparisons. Between the two brands, empty bags vs loaded bags, pros and cons, likes and dislikes, etc. much appreciated. I think I going to buy a set of Diamondbacks!😳
Awesome hope you enjoy them :)
Did you end up getting one ? I’m in the same boat . The retailer near me is a hour away and open only monday thru Friday ..
I just dont like the pocket set up on these or the niko
How is it holding up to this day ???
Thanks for the video I'll stick with the Occidental leather
Nice Mano a Mano comparison. You must be a boxing fan because you went from the weigh-in to the blow by blow. Nice review, personally I have never had any luck with cordura, nylon bags. I’m an Occidental leather with the Stronghold suspenders convert.
What are your thoughts on the OxyLights? Which set do you have? I'm looking at the OxyLights 7 bag framer. But not 100% how long did yours take to soften up?
Jack Gibson Thanks for reaching out. I have the 5191 rig which is full leather which are solid leather. If you oil them they soften sooner than if you keep them dry. Just like breaking in new boots or a ball glove. The Oxy-lights do not require this break in period and weigh about half of the full leather, but they are prone to puncture and cut damage. I recommend the hard plastic sleeves for you utility knife or chisel. Worth the investment. If I was going to buy a new rig, I would go with the Buckaroo belt and the Black fat lip Oxy- light bags.
Very helpful. I have been looking at diamondback for yrs just scared I want like them. Got Occidental now. Thanks for the video!!
I have occidental to love them but have been looking at badger bags if you havent heard of them look them up
this was a outstanding review my friend i have all was been a occidental man do to my dad giving me his occy's when i started working. but none the less excellent job
So quick question for you. Does that buckle on the belt cut into your stomach a little bit at all? Just asking for us handsomely husky boys out on the job sites.
Im a little chunky and ive never had that problem.
Thanks for the post... as a side note, I have had two OL framer and electrician belts for the past 25 years and other then aged leather, they are still running great. I am quite weary of the DB material as it is similar to my military webbing of years gone by... it wore overtime and the corners ended up tearing. IMO, leather withstands time much better then material. Note that OL has a horizontal setup and the DB has a vertical setup. Depends what you like but for me vertical involves bending to the side for access. Lastly, OL has light suspenders as well.
Great review on both belts.
I have had both. I started with Occidental leather first in the early 90s. That set that lasted for about 10 years. The bad part about leather is that the corners wore out and stuff would leak out. They wore like iron and conformed to you like well worn gloves. I tried diamond back around 2002. They are very comfortable also. They have too many pockets compared to ol. I thought that they would not last as long, but was wrong. They got ratty and worn but never had holes or did they ever RIP. They lasted for about 12 years. The buckle was plastic and lost its strength. I would bend over and the buckle would release and fall off. The buckle was the reason I switched to an all cordura Occidental leather tool belt next. I've worn that one for the past 4 years and have just recently switched back to my old diamond back tool belt. That hammer holder is the best thing going. The ultimate tool belt would have features of both companies. Ol has specific spots for specific tools. Db has generic pockets that let you put tools and fasteners any way you like. Sometimes tools dont fit in them as well. It is very hard to pick a winner here.... I just ordered a new diamond back set in that new tan color. Now I wont have to decide, I will have both.
dsgrayco - lollll way to go with the tan DB and lucky you to have the best of both worlds. I know about that hammer holder... very innovative and worth it... in my case, the hammer head sticks out a little and I can't take the chance of knocking or hitting walls or furniture (institutional work) so a back model is preferred. Haven't had holes in my belts yet. Like you said, with age they get very comfy. When they wear, and if they do while I am still wearing bags, I'll take a look at other brands. I don't think this will happen anytime soon though. But I must admit, leather bags are really what I like... that smell, the aging and how they fit when broken in. Can't seem to find that in material type bags. Good luck with your DB's.
Thank you
For that big open left pouch I use a 9501 clip on and it works to separate it into three different pouches for example the sides for pliers or tools and the middle for fasteners. And I can still use the speed square slot too.
Paco Casarrubias Hi, isn't the 9501 a single pouch and not separated? If 3 compartments, then I'll get one. Thanks for replying.
@@ibrazeau3044 what do u mean separated?
Paco Casarrubias the 9501 appears to be a single pouch with a belt clip. I am looking for a clip on bag where the bag itself has two or three separators in it that form pockets. Like the fastener outer bag is separated into two pockets. Thanks for the reply.
@@ibrazeau3044 yea just clip the 9501 in between where the rafter goes in towards the big bag and it works out
Occidental + stilleto hammer = the best way to go
This is very helpful but one question , Is there a compartment for the level water and the pipe stretcher?
Or the glass magnet??
Or the left handed screw driver?
What a great video !!, really went in depth and details you put it all on the table. Great video !
Hi , thanks for great video and comparison , the Oxy seem to be higher up hips and the diamondbacks seem to hang a long way down as you state at end of video , what is the difference between hang on hips 2 to 3 inch? from oxy to DB
pants falling down is the difference
Dude, thanks for the vid, this helps a lot
Thank you, glad that you enjoyed the video
I have the occidental suspenders but I want the diamondback bags with the 6” belt. Did you try the occidental suspenders with the belt?
Awesome review man, I’m an electrician as well and just ordered my 1st set of diamond backs
Awesome video but I still can't decide on which one to get!!
Which one is longer?
Beautifully maintained.
Just to let you know the straps on the suspenders on their back or supposed to cross each other
Whats up man thanks for the video i love my occidentals to but how do you keep the suspenders in place like that mine want to slide off i have to be careful and readjust them everytime i put them on i still love them once they are adjusted they speak for themselves but just curios what you do
What size belt did you get
Used my occi’s for 5 years and they look brand new still. I’ll stick to them, good comparison video though
It will feel a lot better
If you ever wind up getting the vest to replace the diamondback suspenders review that. Currently I'm using tradegear, which is okay. It's too wide to walk in between studs though and wish there were more pockets.
hey man great vid. quick question. Do the Diamondback toolbelts hang low beside your legs? they look long... lets say you are doing trim work. do they get in your way?
Sorry for the late reply but they don’t get in the way if you are doing trim
do you need the suspenders to use these bags?
I came expecting to be persuaded towards an Occidental, but now I’m leaving wanting a Diamondback.
Good video, very helpful and you did a great job!
Will we be getting more videos?
Which set is those diamond backs?
What leather conditioner you use on you occidental bag? I have the same one and been thinking of switch over to a diamondback belt ... been looking for this video
spyderx92 I used my leather boot conditioner from Danner ! Honestly any boot conditioner is better than no conditioner it will keep the leather from cracking. Thx for watching the video!!!
The primo thank for the reply... did you order you diamondback belt from their website ?
nice video sir
Very objective review 🙂
Cool review man, thank you for making this.👍
Great video and what make is that square?
🔥🔥🔥
Is there anywhere I can buy these in person and AZ Phoenix area
Fisher tools sells some occidental pouchs i bought my electrician pouch there
6lb vs 9lb is 50% more, not double the weight. 33% lighter not half the weight.
👍👍
Can you show us all your tools in your belt
Primo!! L.U. 11
se ve gringo pero tiene acento de hispano (mexicano?) :D what's up with that? trippy, no hate just curious from a venezuelan guy :)
Diamond backs are to long in less you where them high but working on baseboard the bags are laying on the floor
Ese Primo!!! Cuanto por las occidentals dice El Angel!
Horrible camera angle.
Which model tool belt is that?