You remind me a lot of my grandpa. A generation of men who were smart, skilled and had knowledge that seemed never ending. Thanks for your videos, sir.
I just recently have came across this man as well. I can watch and listen to him speak and explain his topics for hours. Myself being a union carpenter in Vegas for 30 years in metal and wood “Everything” he says I 100% understand and agree with from having your pencil on the dominant side. to the correct way go pull a dry line. What can I say . Much respect for this Gentleman. I applaud you sir.
Retired framing carpenter for 20+ years. What he is saying about the occidental is not B'S. If your a home gamer, don't waste your money, but if this is your living, or you plan to be in this trade for a while, spend the money. It's well worth it in my opinion. When a carpenter rolls up with a set of faded and worn occidentals you know the ol' boy has been around a while and that alone demands a bit of jobsite cred!
Adamast great thing about Occidentals is that is your mama ever taught you anything about sewing you can keep a set for close to a life time. It so easy to sew that pocket back. I you wear a hole in just get some leather and some strong string and patch it up!
I’m almost tempted to buy a pair of used Occidentals, cause I don’t wanna be showing up to a jobsite with mint condition, clean bags and look like a rookie 😂
Had a pair of occidental bags for about 27 years and finally retired them about 2 years ago. They looked about like yours after about 15 years and I took them to a saddle maker for repair and used them for another 12 years. Been in the trade 44 years maybe about as long as you. Occidental bags are definitely the way to go. I relate to your channel on work ethics, tool reviews and other things. Thanks for putting it out there .
Just discovered your channel. This is like Wranglerstar, except you actually know what you are talking about opposed to his supercilious know-it-all attitude. Your skill and knowledge really shines through in these videos and it is truly mesmerizing!
I have followed wranglestar for a very long time. Was a big fan and everytime I tried to offer advice on something, or asked a question for that matter. He would consistently dismiss me with a tone that could be described only as "conceited". He lost my subscription and my respect.
i am a 16 year old and currently involved in my local career tech center for my high school and i am taking construction carpentry. i just wanna tell you that you give me a lot of my needed information and are very helpful. You're videos have really helped me begin my carpentry days. just wanna say thank you for all of your amazing content
you can do it kid! i started my own company at 18. if you work at a material yard like i did you can learn a ton about tools, lumber, and hardwoods so when your in the trades full time your ahead of all the other punk ass kids, making you eligible for 2 dollar raises!
Hopefully it's working out for you so far. I got into construction at 16 as well and it has ben a pretty good experience. Times are changing a lot with safety and hr politics, but it's good and honest work.
Just don't expect to be building cabinets and millwork if you get into commercial carpenty, it's mostly formwork and hanging tarps! Pretty good pay for the work though.
Hey I am really enjoying your TH-cam channel! My dad has been a general contractor for 41 years this year in little Sisters OR by Bend. My dad will be 70 this year and not slowing down yet. He is old-school carpentet likes his hand tools like old family chisels and hand saws. He has had his Occidentals since 89. He only oils them with needs foot oil and they look amazing even though they are well used they are almost 30 years old. At the end of the day he never leaves them anywhere because of the attachment always takes them home. He got my brother and I set up with a full leathet set I love them so much. I first had the nylon leather combo the leather is so much better. Just apply that needs foot oil they will last 30 years. Again I really enjoy your show!
Just a young kid that's been interested in Blacksmithing for a long time, Just doing a bit of researching and came across this channel, You do great things, You teach the New, You learn the Old, You are a great man, Keep on keeping on.
bought my nylon occidental bags in 02...added the harness a few years ago...excellent bags and system. the nylon occidental bags have yet collapse. worth every penny.
I just discovered you this weekend. It's truly refreshing to see someone demonstrate and present the concepts of one of the oldest professions on the planet that is really becoming a lost art. When I was 18 I became an apprentice carpenter. I studied and worked with men that rarely ever used a power tool in order to work at their craft. I worked in this craft until I was drafted into the military at age 19. Unfortunately, I did not return to the profession when I was released from my obligation to our country. I have used the skills I learned in carpentry over the years to remodel and repair my homes. I thank you for reminding me of things I had forgotten and showing me some new things as well. This channel has value beyond measure.
I love your content I've learn alot more that I didn't fully understand before. I'm a 27 year old electrician who built, installed, fixed, maintained and tore out elevators and I didn't have access to such information due to my career. I did get exposed to carpentry and construction at a young age as my father God bless the man (60 years old 2 replaced knees a bad back and he has MORE ENERGY THAN I DO) was always building decks, sheds, patios...etc (he did try to have his own contracting business on the side but too many penny pinchers tried to get more work for less money and he eventually had enough which is sad cause if he got a good apprentice he could have a very profitable business. but yes thanks for the education and I enjoy watching your videos you're very informative and you're voice is calm yet reassuring and you seem like a guy that tends to be patient with helpers...etc
Thank you for this. I'm not a day-to-day carpenter (not since the 70s, anyway), but I own four rental properties so spend a lot of time hauling around nails and hammers and what-not. Several years back I needed a new bag because one of the cats had decided mine (a vintage off-the-shelf set minding its own business on the shop floor) was a good place to relieve himself; leather is not forgiving when it comes to ammoniated liquids so I was off to the races. I really wanted an Occidental rig but the price was a bit high to justify since I don't spend 10 hours a day pounding nails. Anyway, I got a good bag that serves me well. I really wanted, though, to make mention of your practice of having a set place for everything in your rig. Building muscle memory is critical for saving time and improving focus on the project, rather than having to fish through a bunch of stuff to find what you need. Even if I haven't worn my rig for a few weeks, it's amazing how easily my hands go to the right pocket when I go on a job. Forty-five years of having the pencil on one side and tape on the other has really paid off, even for a duffer like me!
Leathers are just like boots, or anything else for that matter, you get what you pay for. I wish I had the money I wasted at the beginning of my career on cheap Kmart boots and craftsman leathers. I remember the first day at work wearing my redwings, thought I was on a cloud, same goes with my occidental leathers. I also used to use suspenders with my leathers, until I got my Occidentals with a wide sheepskin belt liner, no more suspenders. Listen to this man, this channel is awesome, all you young guys starting out in the business, spend the money now, you will never regret it.
I am not a framer, I do finish work. I like to see the skills and short cuts of working smarter not harder. I just bought my ocl bags this year, I wish I had them when I started. Everyday someone with an apron makes a joke about my framer bags, but when they have to stop working to go to the box and grab a tool, I've had it in my pocket the whole time!
As I read through the comments I note the different jobs people do, the different postures they may be in for work. So I had an idea. If you need certain tools but may not need "nail bags" as my dad called them, you may like this: it is called a cruiser vest. Go back and look at Scott's interview with the surveyor at the beginning of the Spec House series. Notice the surveyor's vest was full of the tools he needed. This vest is only an option but it has helped me a lot. OR you can combine the two systems. If a cruiser vest interests you, one good place you can look is forestry-suppliers.com and put in cruiser vest. They come in tan or safety colors. Eight or ten pockets in the vest and outside. We in forestry and several other vocstions find these to be really handy. You can also find these in thermal models if you look around and want a warm one.
I'm the same way except I have a smaller version... I've had it for almost 15 years. I don't even have to look at what I'm grabbing for I just reach into the same spot every time, if it's a pair of pliers, or the awl, or a screwdriver or pencil, or utility knife or carpet knife, or my always useful 5-in-1!!! I finish with it, and it goes right back to it's normal spot. I usually use a clip on bag if I needing screws or nails.. I can undo it when I'm finished. I really like the idea of the pencil and tape measure opposite... My speed square usually ends up in my back pocket... KEEP THE VIDEO's coming!!!!
I bought mine almost 15 years ago and it was by far one of the best investments I've ever made. Showed up on my first day brand new to the trade and after a month my boss took me to the store and bought me a set and spent the next 2 months paying him back. Good tool belt set is a must for anyone in the business!!!
I don't remember when I subscribed to your channel, but I can honestly say that you provide consistently good information, conventional and unconventional wisdom, and speak with the experience and common sense of men I thought had all left this life already. Thank God you're still here. lol
Love your video....I got my occidental bags at estate sale auction from old carpenter friend who checked out...paid 25 bucks with suspenders...God bless him
I'm a journeyman in the Carpenters Union. I do fork work. I used to have an Occidental leather setup but I have recently switched to a gatorback tool belt and pouches. The Occidental leather around your waist all day starts to dig into your hips the leather is not very forgiving . Show me in a huge fan of my new gatorback belt. The belt itself has a thick memory foam bad for your back and the pouches are all double-stitched and riveted. Also they are not envelope style where they close up and they're hard to get your tools out of. They are box style so they stay open at all times and are easy to get stuff in and out of. It's also a little lighter but not sacrificing strengths. I absolutely love it and would never go back.
I have a similar set of Occidental bags. The quality is something to behold - they are at least five years old now and still look new. Comfortable too - I feel like they took about a year to break in, and now they feel great. Well worth the money. My tool belt is possibly my favorite tool. I am a metal framer / drywaller and finish carpenter - sometimes all three at once, and the amount of crap I have to have on me at any one time is ludicrous. Great videos - keep them coming. I send them to new guys all the time, especially the ladder video!
I manage a water damage mitigation team, and I'm trying to get them to switch over to tool bags. So much efficiency is gained when you have all your tools with you, at all times. Don't need a huge set, just keep the tools you think you'll need for the specific job, and get at it!
I bought an Occidental leather electrician set on October 18th of last year, a couple of months after seeing this video. You helped me make a good call. I can tell they are going to last. Thank you for all of your videos!!
I switched to the occidental commercial electrician bags maybe three years ago and I'm never going back. And your right about the bags ergonomics being directly proportional to your ability to produce work. Keep the great content coming!
As a retired Az carpenter, watching this channel is like watching myself. BTW; I still have my Occidental leather bags from 30 years ago.. thanks for sharing.peAce
I agree with the rear hammer hanger.I HATE the handle hit my leg. I use a 28oz rig axe to frame with,, balance is good and drives 16's easy. My tape goes in a bag in the middle of my belt in the back. That is also used for plastic cap nails for securing felt and foam board. I like having a direct route to my 16's. Plus it makes my bags just a little bit narrower so I can squeeze into tight places. Square, pencil, knife all go in the same place as you. Collapsing bags drive me nuts! Nothing like reaching for air when you hanging rafters at ridge while doing a balancing act on site built scaffolding. When I started making saw dust for a living, I saw an old hand wearing occidental's. I knew then that was the way to go. Great job on the videos!! Greg
yakill you got that godammed right! hung up my Mendoza's ten years ago now work out of a trailer and mostly with the laptop. Never fails like you said, need to mark something its right hand to right front pouch for pencil/keel at the same time left hand left center of pouch for my speed square. I involuntarily reach with both arms and grasp at non-existent items. Honestly it kinda pisses me off! lol
yakill I’ll get home from roofing all day and I’ll be slapping everything down like it’s a shingle. It’s also a funny thing to come home to your gentle, quiet girlfriend and be yelling not even meaning to... I can’t even rub the poor girls back without giving her a friction burn from my calluses and old cuts.
Yes, that was spot on! You forgot to mention about how the frustration of a misfitting ( is that a word?) bag can make for a long day! Also, if you get a well made bag that will last many years it becomes part of you and you don't have to think about what pocket you put somthing in. Another point that I'll bring up is that you don't have to use it just for carpentry, I've used one for many different jobs, it can save a huge amount of steps ! If you can, get a good one, take care of it and it will last a long time, mine is 44 years old and still good! Thanks for sharing and take care.
From the few videos I've watched of you sir it's clearly evident to me your a exceptional craftsman, with nothing shy of pure good intentions to share with your fellow man , you're an absolute credit to your community, I wish you all the best
i was a cableman for more than 20 years and for almost 15 of those years used a cordura bag made by buck - the knife company. that thing was great. buck had moved out of the area, and quit making this bag long before it retired, so i hung on to it longer than most would, but i just loved how i could work out of that bag. (a colleague of mine called it my "homeless" bag). for the right job, heavy cordura does just fine. especially when you work in the rain and everything you work with gets soaked.
you are the man, I don't know a thing about carpentry and starting to work a job in 1 month, my friend said just learn a tape measure and he'll train me the rest. your videos are great, I feel I'm learning so much before I actually start lol. But I know your just making it look easier said then done
I spent the extra money and bought a nice tool belt like 6 years ago and it makes a huge difference. I went with a company called Atlas 46 who makes modular heavy duty military webbing style bags and 6 years later they are just as good or better than the day I bought them. The nice thing about a modular system is you can add or remove every piece of it and change things up depending on what kind of work your doing. I've changed my belt configuration 3 times by adding or removing different pouch types and my current setup is so damn efficient it feels like part of my body. They have tons of different pouches, sheaths, loops, holsters, and add ons. One really cool thing I've recently added to my belt are magnetic panels which vary in different strengths, I have a light streagth one right by my buckle for holding screws or driver/drill bits, a second of the same strength on the my left side, a smaller on the outside of my tape measure pouch cover (it has very nice a semi ridged lid flap), and some heavy magnets on my suspenders which are strong enough to hold just about any hand tool such as Chisels, screwdrivers, wrenches, shit they are strong enough to hold a Crowbar or large pipe wrench if you really want too. My next investment will be one of their chest rigs which can attach any of my pouches or accessories, it also can attach to your belt for support like suspenders do. Nice thing about a vest is it distributes that weight better and doesn't put so much pressure on your hips or even shoulders like suspenders because you spread you gear between the chest rig and belt. I highly recommend Atlas 46 to anyone in the trades, they can get expensive depending on what your trying to do but it is definitely worth every penny. I got mine in olive tan, but for a more traditional contractor look they have it in black too or camouflage if you want to hide in the bushes to avoid an annoying customer. My I also have the same belt in this video but atlas was an upgrade from that if you can believe it, haven't touched my leather since.
I haveThe older Occidental nylon beltless bags have been worth every penny, the pockets still hang open they have been used off and on for over 15 years....putting them back on soon for a while. Nylon dries faster,,, living in western Washington. I grew up in Philomath west of Corvallis, watching your videos affirms a lot of my choices in tools and such, Please continue the channel
I’m in bridge construction. Lots of forms ,metal/connecting and vertical work of all sorts. Been on a 4 span stone arch bridge for a few months. Have a normal set of occidental bags for framing/forms. Plus another set on my climbing gear. Nothing like setting whalers and turning bolts 50 foot in the air. Worth every penny!
I have the Occidental bags and only worked carpentry in the summers for 17 years (during teacher 'vacation' time--to make enough to raise a family) and mine are worn but still have many years of work left in them. Love them and well worth the extra cost. Give them a little leather treatment every few years to blend with the sweat and dirt and they will last well!
My old man was a roofer's roofer. He learned from the old country Germans & Polish roofers. He could lay out a roof with no chalkline or square and be perfect even on an out of square deck. His tool "belt" was a giveaway canvas apron that he'd get at the lumber yards & suppliers. That's it. Well, that and a Sears hammer that he'd wear out and take back and get a new one every year when Sears used to replace your tools for free. LOL He gave me my first one and I added a coat hanger fashioned hammer loop off the string and I riveted a sleeve into one of the pockets for my knife sheath. Roofing nails in the left pocket, 16D nails in the right for brackets. I got a hand me down carpenter's pouch which I rigged up with a real hammer loop & knife sheath, then I went on to buy my first real tool belt set, an AWP Oil Tanned Leather set that I customized. I'd wear them out every 5 years or so, but they were the best value on the market. Then I graduated & treated myself to a set of Occidental Framers that I also customized and never looked back. I'd tell anyone starting out today to bypass everything else and get a set of Rooster Products/AWP oil tanned pouches and to build their own set-up "if" leather was their thing. AWP's are Occidentals on a budget. I've now had my Oxy's for goin' on 17 years now. Honestly, I can't see myself wearing them out. I'm not as active, but I sure put them through their paces when I was. You'd be hard pressed to really go through a set in less than that time. I'm sure nylon's great, but nothing forms itself to the user like leather. It's like a broken-in pair of boots. They become familiar and you can reach into your rig without even looking and just instinctually know where everything is. It becomes part of you like any good tool does.
I bought a heavy leather set of bags when I was framing in the late 80s early 90s it has been passed around a few times to friends and family came back to me a few years ago. It is a craftsman but it still does the job for being over 27 years old.
wranglerstar turned me on to occidental leather. happy to see another top notch craftsman echoing the praise of these tool belts. I'm just a homeowner/DIY type. but I'm going get the full grain bags. they'll surely be the last set I buy. plus I plan on building an addition to my workshop so I can move out the lawn and yard equipment, leaving me with more dedicated workspace.
You know what! I once joined a crew of carpenters and I was the only one wearing a tool belt!! Because of that, they nicknamed me Rambo!! Hahaha 😂 I live in Peru, and you rarely ever see a carpenter wearing a tool belt/bag. I'm one of the rare here. I wear a Stanley nylon tool belt. It's light, comfortable and was quite low priced compared to a DeWalt leather one. The curious thing is that I bought that tool belt when I still worked as a translator! In that moment I didn't have the smallest interest in becoming a full time carpenter! It all started with a drill my girlfriend gave me as a birthday gift! I already had a good hammer,... I always liked having my tools. This tool belt has been a really good purchase. My tools have found their perfect spots in it. Been wearing it on jobs for 2 years now. Anyone that sees me coming for a job immediately looks to it and likes it a lot. It certainly makes you or helps you look professional. I'll try to upload some pictures to share here. You'll see my set up, and I hope you like it too! Haha Good night, Mr. God bless you.
Some of us cut a pencil in half tape the two halves flexibly together as this break away design actually extends the useful life span if a lot of frame crawling is required
Occidental are hands down the best bags. There are two types of Carpenters, Those who are into having the best and coolest tools, and those that aren't. Both can be very good at what they do, very efficient and very skilled. However, I am a carpenter that always has to have the best stuff. And Occidental leather belts are well worth the up front cost. Its an investment. "You buy cheap, you'll buy twice." Thanks for the video.
I agree, gotta keep your tape on one side and pencil on the other. They always go in the same spot. You never have to look to get them or put them back. Another PRO TIP (I'm not a pro though): Lay all your nails flat in your hand before you put them in your bags, that way when you reach in for nails, you don't poke your fingers. 16d always in the same spot. 8d always in another. I leave one spot open for whatever random nail/screw I'm working with that day if it's not 16d or 8d.
Another thing I've added to my work gear: overalls/bibs. I don't like suspenders on my nail bags, but when you wear just the belt it pulls your pants down. The overalls won't fall down, you won't have plumbers crack, and you've got some nice chest pockets for a pencil and your cell phone that won't get smashed when leaning on things.
Wow that's efficient. I spend far too much time looking for tools I put down. Well worth the investment. I seem to work so often squatting or on my knees ( or up a ladder) then I always need a tool not to hand. It's all wasted time!
Scott, I've been using an Occidental framing rig for years. 3" wide belt with leather Occidental suspenders. It's a great durable setup but man is it heavy! Even empty it's heavy! If I'm working in one location for any length of time I hang it from a nail and just visit when I need something. After a day with it on it's a GREAT relief to take it off!.
I have been using Occidental bags for the past 15 years . I just bought my second set last year but I used the nylon and leather bags . I decided to try out their beltless system and after getting used to it I really like it . it really takes the strain off your hips if you're a carpenter and you carry a lot of tools in your bags you know what I'm talking about . these bags cost three times the money of normal off-the-shelf stuff but you get 10 to 20 years out of them. Made in the good old USA
I just replaced a set of Dead On bags with the Occidental pro framer bags. This video helped to sell me on their product. Thank you for your honest reviews and the knowledge you pass on.
My old man had (has?) a set of these. I remember him telling me this same advice! I used to love wearing them when I happened to. I had good bags for synthetic, but the Occidentals just kind of melded to the body and gave good tool control. Thanks for making me think about that! I miss those days sometimes.
I have always thought the same way when it come to tape, pencil, speed square. It's the most logical positioning and fastest. And yes, it does make a difference when it saves seconds and time is money! Great wisdom sir. I wish I could work along side you. I think we'd get along.
Just for the record, Occidental bags are the best. I bought my first set a while back and actually enjoy putting them on. So comfortable that I hardly notice carrying a heavy framing rig at all. The absolute best part is the layout of the bags. Every movement you make to grab a tool could not be more natural and quick. I would never buy a cheap set of bags again. Food for thought.
I had a pair of nylon bags and I blew them out in about a year. I bit the bullet, dropped the $300, and bought the occidental 7 pouch framer bag set. It is by far my best tool and I wouldn't replace them for anything. I work with guys that have had there occi bags for over 20 years and there still performing strong. Trust me.... just buy them. You'll spend more money in the long run replacing junk home depot bags. I bought mine locally at a lumber yard, but they also can be bought on Amazon. If your a serious carpenter, you own occidental tool bags, period.
1 tip for bag layout... For right handed people, put tools on the right side of your bags and fasteners on the left. Reverse for lefties. Juggling tools between hands wastes time and slows people down tremendously. Every time a new apprentice comes on my crew that's the first thing I suggest after looking at there layout. Sounds obvious but you would be surprised....
Sober JokR yes I have seen the green "lightweight" bags and they are great too they just don't have the lifespan of the leather ones in my opinion. Also, I know some good carpenters who use their tape in the small pouch on the top left of the bag. It works, but your losing a place to put small fasteners. I use that pouch for #8 pan head framers, pop rivits, or other loose ends. It's all preference but I think it's faster for a righty to have tools on the right.
Wore craftsman bags for years until I got tired of fixing them. Bought Occidental Leather 10 years ago and I will never buy another system again! The funny thing is I set up my bags the same as you because I'm Righty, however we read the tape backwards and do things lefty many Times I find. Would love to see the "Hammer" video next. I carry a titanium stiletto 12oz. Oz to be honest if I break the handle I will stop everything until it's fixed!! I will not swing a heavy hammer again! 😂
I was wondering when this video would be posted. You teased us when you were building the shed. Yes - I pay attention and devour every drop of information you put forth. Been in the business 24/7 since 1980. Never too old or know too much to learn how others do it. I wish you lived closer. We'd sure have some fun making sawdust.
I currently have a nylon Dewalt bag that's lasted me over 5 years. Got it with on sale with Canadian Tire gift cards that we got as wedding presents so I don't regret the purchase. They're starting to wear (mostly where my hammer sits. Lol) but probably have a couple of years of life left in them. Definitely thinking of switching to occidental when they're done. The speed square holder alone would be enough to interest me. I like my dewalt bags for a lot of things but holding a speed square is not one of them. Thanks for sharing your experiences. We can always learn from others experiences and be very helpful to how you grow, as a carpenter and as a person. I want to say you are helping me do both.
I have that same bag belt setup, 15 years and counting. not a pro carpenter but I've done it for a work more than average. far more expensive than clc and cheap bags but soooo worth it. I could stand to have a few other loops better suited for certain tools like a flat bar, but almost perfect as is. fwiw I keep a 24oz framing hammer in the rear hammer loop and 14oz finish in the bag loop. also added a drill holster to the back.for a cordless.
I prefer the metal Estwing hammer. As a concrete guy by choice I pull a lot of nails, not because they are in the wrong place but because that’s what you do. Nail it together. Place and finish your concrete. Pull the nails to remove the forms. Clean the forms. Repeat the process. I also use the flat part of the handle as a scraper for cleaning forms. Multi tool if you will. Keep up the good work.
Sir you channel is damn near better than the 4 years of apprenticeship schooling I had to go through. I just put my middle son on to your channel. He wants to get into the trades
Mine are set up almost identically. I've got two hammer loops in the back, one for my nice framing hammer and the other changes per the task. Can't be smacking your catspaw or wonder bar with a Stilletto, now. It's almost time for a new set, I'll be looking into the Occidentals. Thanks!
California Carpenter, ah, go ahead and feel free to whoop on a cat's paw or whatever you want with your Stiletto titanium. I do the same with mine (Dalluge 'Douglas' 14oz) and it doesn't damage it all. Truth brother.
Bought one cheap pair in 2000 it lasted until 2002 bought a good pair like these and haven't looked back. Not only do you save money in the long run you look cool doing it.
I got my first pair of occidental leather nail bags today and love them ! Hopefully theyre my last pair . I’m a framer / post Frame builder and am very rough on my bags so hopefully they hold up to the work !
Too short! More and more you're one of my favorite you tubers. You speek your experience. I would like to learn more about layouts. How you transfer diagrams to real life projects. Effective ways to mark 3-4-5 (two tape measures or a better system) etc.
I hung up my leather bags years ago. Never owned a set of Occidentals, just made due with whoever made Craftsman or Die Hard bags from Sears. But honestly, they did me solid. I'd replace a pouch here and there but I always bought the ones with the metal hammer loop on the side and kept my tape on the back. Since I got out of rough carpentry and more into other fields like low voltage, I switched to a Makita tool vest and boy do I appreciate not having all the weight on my hips anymore.
A very thorough approach to layout and function. In my relatively short (professional) custom building career, I had to design my own belts. Much of that had to do with being left handed. Being too cheap to spring for the good stuff, I cut new ones apart and reconfigured them to suit me. I, too, had the metal hammer loop in the back. I found out that I needed to practice getting it into the loop since you only get to drop your hammer once from the second floor and taking out the owner's loaded coffee cup!
I invested in my bags 17 yrs ago. Occidental Leather bags will cost you $300 for a proper set to work comfortably I have the sheepskin pads that make the bags more comfortable. I wouldn’t buy any other brand of tool bags. They are the best. You look professional,you will act professionally
As a first year apprentice I bought a set of Occidental bags because that's what everyone used. I was extremely happy with the purchase but I bought the wrong layout for me. I sold them and bought my second set that was the correct layout. Long story short 11 years later I'm still using the same bags. It's different here in Sonoma county where the city of Occidental is because all of the serious tradesmen have these bags
I have leather-trimmed nylon bags from Occidental, on my second leather belt and my third set of suspenders, both bags are open at the top and going strong (I had to jury rig the tape holder about ten years ago)!! great channel, just stumbled on it, I love your forthrightness!!
The focus on having tape and square on the left and pencil on the right (for right handers) just makes for so much more efficient working. It just becomes second nature (as you eloquently demonstrated). I know I would have a hard time adjusting to any other way. I'm thinking of swapping out my Bucket Boss tool belt for an Oxy and found that the only one that seemed to keep the same configuration with a large tape pocket is the 5087. Looking forward to your build. Keep up the great work.
Occidental is the way to go. Expensive but worth it, not like a keychain my parents had for a nissan minivan in the 90s. I bought one full set about 6 years ago or so. It looks worn, but it's not torn or ripped whatsoever. I paid something like 500 canadian for mine with suspenders, but it has been asbolutely worth it. A good investment for guys who are just starting to get into the trades... but make sure you get one with a speed square pocket!
One of the tricks I used for years was wearing bib overalls. With those, you can essentially hang your pants from your shoulders and leave the waist loose. That way wood chips from overhead drilling like an electrician or plumber ( I was both) would produce would "flow through" and out the bottom rather than get caught in your pants. LOL Just pull your tool belt off and shake them on through.
i have a set up similar to yours only i am not a carpenter,i work on a assembly line in rv's.i find those handy i use a lot of 1" screws and ...P clips j clips i call them looms. my only issue if when i half to work on the floor my screws dump out all over.My remedy is to mount some neodymium magnets on the back of the pouch they are more than powerful enough to hold the screws in. dont know if that'll be useful to anyone or not,but it helped me.
I loved the sagging pants analogy. I hate with all my heart not haveing a belt. An older friend once told me that sagging was a courting ritual. That you exposed your undies in a gesture of offering yourself "behind" to some one.
A good pair of suspenders is also a great place to put some extra gear, assuming it is suitable to fitting in a snug holding pocket. (You don't want large open pouches that dump stuff if you bend over after all.) Can be a handy spot for a pencil, or for things like a try-angle or combination square if your hip pouches already have a lot of stuff in them.
Well, at least you have a bar to strive for. I have several sets of bags, set up for a few different purposes and not just a big framing rig. You can buy pouches and belts individually to set up for your needs.
Hey reaching out for some advice, I cannot get occidental out of my mind and I’m going to purchase one for Christmas ( getting one as a gift from the wife) and I can’t decide which one. I like the original one buscadaro 5191 or the 5080 or the adjust to fit fat lip. I’m only a diy guy who like to do carpentry at the weekend but as you say these will last the rest of time and I want to make the right choice, and I would like to incorporate the suspenders. The only thing I am not mad about in the adjust to fit is that it’s not all leather. HELP!!! 5 bag or 7 bag framers rig....... Really appreciate if you reach back out
You remind me a lot of my grandpa. A generation of men who were smart, skilled and had knowledge that seemed never ending. Thanks for your videos, sir.
Nick S Agreed. This man has a lot of wisdom.
Dudes a beast, I just subscribed
Beautiful comment brother
I just recently have came across this man as well. I can watch and listen to him speak and explain his topics for hours. Myself being a union carpenter in Vegas for 30 years in metal and wood “Everything” he says I 100% understand and agree with from having your pencil on the dominant side. to the correct way go pull a dry line. What can I say . Much respect for this Gentleman. I applaud you sir.
Reminds me of my grandpa too. He was in construction most of his life. There wasn’t much he couldn’t fix.
I believe that your ability to slip between the studs is more dependent on your biscuit and gravy consumption than your tool bags.
I'm just aiming to be able to continue to fit through the door
LMAO, as an electrician I often end up in roofspaces... there is more than one attic hatch in old 1800s houses that I think of as 'before lunch only'
Lots of good points made I was on the fence about occidental. Thanks for sharing, EC!
Right on!
LMAO
Retired framing carpenter for 20+ years. What he is saying about the occidental is not B'S. If your a home gamer, don't waste your money, but if this is your living, or you plan to be in this trade for a while, spend the money. It's well worth it in my opinion. When a carpenter rolls up with a set of faded and worn occidentals you know the ol' boy has been around a while and that alone demands a bit of jobsite cred!
True,I've had mine about 18 yrs. and they have never failed me!!!
You mean with Occidentals a torn pocket 1:30 isn't a torn pocket?
Adamast great thing about Occidentals is that is your mama ever taught you anything about sewing you can keep a set for close to a life time. It so easy to sew that pocket back. I you wear a hole in just get some leather and some strong string and patch it up!
@@carsongoodman5581 pretty sure occy has lifetime warranty still. They are easy to fix compared to shitty quality bags.
I’m almost tempted to buy a pair of used Occidentals, cause I don’t wanna be showing up to a jobsite with mint condition, clean bags and look like a rookie 😂
Had a pair of occidental bags for about 27 years and finally retired them about 2 years ago. They looked about like yours after about 15 years and I took them to a saddle maker for repair and used them for another 12 years. Been in the trade 44 years maybe about as long as you. Occidental bags are definitely the way to go. I relate to your channel on work ethics, tool reviews and other things. Thanks for putting it out there .
Just discovered your channel.
This is like Wranglerstar, except you actually know what you are talking about opposed to his supercilious know-it-all attitude.
Your skill and knowledge really shines through in these videos and it is truly mesmerizing!
Søren Conradsen What you said about Wranglestar made chuckle :)
Yeah, and he's friendlier :) And doesn't constantly hate on metric
Agreed Wranglerstar sucks. I tried watching a few of his videos and they are painful to sit through
I have followed wranglestar for a very long time. Was a big fan and everytime I tried to offer advice on something, or asked a question for that matter. He would consistently dismiss me with a tone that could be described only as "conceited". He lost my subscription and my respect.
Your comment hit the nail on the head! This guy is so much better and seems a lot more humble. Reminds me of my old neighbour growing up, a true man.
This is by far my absolute favorite channel on TH-cam.
i am a 16 year old and currently involved in my local career tech center for my high school and i am taking construction carpentry. i just wanna tell you that you give me a lot of my needed information and are very helpful. You're videos have really helped me begin my carpentry days. just wanna say thank you for all of your amazing content
you can do it kid! i started my own company at 18. if you work at a material yard like i did you can learn a ton about tools, lumber, and hardwoods so when your in the trades full time your ahead of all the other punk ass kids, making you eligible for 2 dollar raises!
Hopefully it's working out for you so far. I got into construction at 16 as well and it has ben a pretty good experience. Times are changing a lot with safety and hr politics, but it's good and honest work.
Just don't expect to be building cabinets and millwork if you get into commercial carpenty, it's mostly formwork and hanging tarps! Pretty good pay for the work though.
Great decision kid! You can take the knowledge you learn, and build your own home, and four structures in the back yard.
So your 20 now
Hey I am really enjoying your TH-cam channel! My dad has been a general contractor for 41 years this year in little Sisters OR by Bend. My dad will be 70 this year and not slowing down yet. He is old-school carpentet likes his hand tools like old family chisels and hand saws. He has had his Occidentals since 89. He only oils them with needs foot oil and they look amazing even though they are well used they are almost 30 years old. At the end of the day he never leaves them anywhere because of the attachment always takes them home. He got my brother and I set up with a full leathet set I love them so much. I first had the nylon leather combo the leather is so much better. Just apply that needs foot oil they will last 30 years. Again I really enjoy your show!
Just a young kid that's been interested in Blacksmithing for a long time, Just doing a bit of researching and came across this channel, You do great things, You teach the New, You learn the Old, You are a great man, Keep on keeping on.
bought my nylon occidental bags in 02...added the harness a few years ago...excellent bags and system. the nylon occidental bags have yet collapse. worth every penny.
I just discovered you this weekend. It's truly refreshing to see someone demonstrate and present the concepts of one of the oldest professions on the planet that is really becoming a lost art. When I was 18 I became an apprentice carpenter. I studied and worked with men that rarely ever used a power tool in order to work at their craft. I worked in this craft until I was drafted into the military at age 19. Unfortunately, I did not return to the profession when I was released from my obligation to our country. I have used the skills I learned in carpentry over the years to remodel and repair my homes.
I thank you for reminding me of things I had forgotten and showing me some new things as well. This channel has value beyond measure.
I love your content I've learn alot more that I didn't fully understand before.
I'm a 27 year old electrician who built, installed, fixed, maintained and tore out elevators and I didn't have access to such information due to my career.
I did get exposed to carpentry and construction at a young age as my father God bless the man (60 years old 2 replaced knees a bad back and he has MORE ENERGY THAN I DO) was always building decks, sheds, patios...etc (he did try to have his own contracting business on the side but too many penny pinchers tried to get more work for less money and he eventually had enough which is sad cause if he got a good apprentice he could have a very profitable business.
but yes thanks for the education and I enjoy watching your videos you're very informative and you're voice is calm yet reassuring and you seem like a guy that tends to be patient with helpers...etc
Thank you for this. I'm not a day-to-day carpenter (not since the 70s, anyway), but I own four rental properties so spend a lot of time hauling around nails and hammers and what-not. Several years back I needed a new bag because one of the cats had decided mine (a vintage off-the-shelf set minding its own business on the shop floor) was a good place to relieve himself; leather is not forgiving when it comes to ammoniated liquids so I was off to the races. I really wanted an Occidental rig but the price was a bit high to justify since I don't spend 10 hours a day pounding nails. Anyway, I got a good bag that serves me well.
I really wanted, though, to make mention of your practice of having a set place for everything in your rig. Building muscle memory is critical for saving time and improving focus on the project, rather than having to fish through a bunch of stuff to find what you need. Even if I haven't worn my rig for a few weeks, it's amazing how easily my hands go to the right pocket when I go on a job. Forty-five years of having the pencil on one side and tape on the other has really paid off, even for a duffer like me!
Leathers are just like boots, or anything else for that matter, you get what you pay for. I wish I had the money I wasted at the beginning of my career on cheap Kmart boots and craftsman leathers. I remember the first day at work wearing my redwings, thought I was on a cloud, same goes with my occidental leathers. I also used to use suspenders with my leathers, until I got my Occidentals with a wide sheepskin belt liner, no more suspenders. Listen to this man, this channel is awesome, all you young guys starting out in the business, spend the money now, you will never regret it.
I am not a framer, I do finish work. I like to see the skills and short cuts of working smarter not harder. I just bought my ocl bags this year, I wish I had them when I started. Everyday someone with an apron makes a joke about my framer bags, but when they have to stop working to go to the box and grab a tool, I've had it in my pocket the whole time!
As I read through the comments I note the different jobs people do, the different postures they may be in for work. So I had an idea. If you need certain tools but may not need "nail bags" as my dad called them, you may like this: it is called a cruiser vest. Go back and look at Scott's interview with the surveyor at the beginning of the Spec House series. Notice the surveyor's vest was full of the tools he needed. This vest is only an option but it has helped me a lot. OR you can combine the two systems.
If a cruiser vest interests you, one good place you can look is
forestry-suppliers.com
and put in cruiser vest. They come in tan or safety colors. Eight or ten pockets in the vest and outside. We in forestry and several other vocstions find these to be really handy. You can also find these in thermal models if you look around and want a warm one.
I'm the same way except I have a smaller version... I've had it for almost 15 years. I don't even have to look at what I'm grabbing for I just reach into the same spot every time, if it's a pair of pliers, or the awl, or a screwdriver or pencil, or utility knife or carpet knife, or my always useful 5-in-1!!! I finish with it, and it goes right back to it's normal spot. I usually use a clip on bag if I needing screws or nails.. I can undo it when I'm finished. I really like the idea of the pencil and tape measure opposite...
My speed square usually ends up in my back pocket...
KEEP THE VIDEO's coming!!!!
I bought mine almost 15 years ago and it was by far one of the best investments I've ever made. Showed up on my first day brand new to the trade and after a month my boss took me to the store and bought me a set and spent the next 2 months paying him back. Good tool belt set is a must for anyone in the business!!!
You remind me of my father in law. An amazing man. I enjoy the videos thank you.
Martin S. DENVER CO.
I don't remember when I subscribed to your channel, but I can honestly say that you provide consistently good information, conventional and unconventional wisdom, and speak with the experience and common sense of men I thought had all left this life already.
Thank God you're still here. lol
Love your video....I got my occidental bags at estate sale auction from old carpenter friend who checked out...paid 25 bucks with suspenders...God bless him
I'm a journeyman in the Carpenters Union. I do fork work. I used to have an Occidental leather setup but I have recently switched to a gatorback tool belt and pouches. The Occidental leather around your waist all day starts to dig into your hips the leather is not very forgiving . Show me in a huge fan of my new gatorback belt. The belt itself has a thick memory foam bad for your back and the pouches are all double-stitched and riveted. Also they are not envelope style where they close up and they're hard to get your tools out of. They are box style so they stay open at all times and are easy to get stuff in and out of. It's also a little lighter but not sacrificing strengths. I absolutely love it and would never go back.
I have a similar set of Occidental bags. The quality is something to behold - they are at least five years old now and still look new. Comfortable too - I feel like they took about a year to break in, and now they feel great. Well worth the money. My tool belt is possibly my favorite tool. I am a metal framer / drywaller and finish carpenter - sometimes all three at once, and the amount of crap I have to have on me at any one time is ludicrous.
Great videos - keep them coming. I send them to new guys all the time, especially the ladder video!
I manage a water damage mitigation team, and I'm trying to get them to switch over to tool bags. So much efficiency is gained when you have all your tools with you, at all times. Don't need a huge set, just keep the tools you think you'll need for the specific job, and get at it!
I bought an Occidental leather electrician set on October 18th of last year, a couple of months after seeing this video. You helped me make a good call. I can tell they are going to last. Thank you for all of your videos!!
I switched to the occidental commercial electrician bags maybe three years ago and I'm never going back. And your right about the bags ergonomics being directly proportional to your ability to produce work. Keep the great content coming!
The Batman of Craftsman
You're like a gunslinger pulling some of those tools out of those bags! Muscle memory is a hell of a thing.
One of my favorite tool bag tricks is tossing my snips in them. So easy, so satisfying, so lighting fast🥴🤘🏼😂
Yeah he knows his shit
As a retired Az carpenter, watching this channel is like watching myself. BTW; I still have my Occidental leather bags from 30 years ago.. thanks for sharing.peAce
I agree with the rear hammer hanger.I HATE the handle hit my leg. I use a 28oz rig axe to frame with,, balance is good and drives 16's easy.
My tape goes in a bag in the middle of my belt in the back. That is also used for plastic cap nails for securing felt and foam board. I like having a direct route to my 16's. Plus it makes my bags just a little bit narrower so I can squeeze into tight places.
Square, pencil, knife all go in the same place as you.
Collapsing bags drive me nuts! Nothing like reaching for air when you hanging rafters at ridge while doing a balancing act on site built scaffolding.
When I started making saw dust for a living, I saw an old hand wearing occidental's. I knew then that was the way to go.
Great job on the videos!!
Greg
and we all know that feeling when we are back home from work, need to cut or mark something, reach for the usual spot and end up empty handed.
yakill nearly every day!
yakill
you got that godammed right!
hung up my Mendoza's ten years ago now work out of a trailer and mostly with the laptop.
Never fails like you said, need to mark something its right hand to right front pouch for pencil/keel at the same time left hand left center of pouch for my speed square.
I involuntarily reach with both arms and grasp at non-existent items.
Honestly it kinda pisses me off!
lol
I do the inverse of that. I'll need to measure something at home and I'll find a tape and try to put it in my invisible pouch when I'm done.
The confusion for a few seconds too. The, "what? Where is it?"
yakill I’ll get home from roofing all day and I’ll be slapping everything down like it’s a shingle. It’s also a funny thing to come home to your gentle, quiet girlfriend and be yelling not even meaning to... I can’t even rub the poor girls back without giving her a friction burn from my calluses and old cuts.
Yes, that was spot on!
You forgot to mention about how the frustration of a misfitting ( is that a word?) bag can make for a long day!
Also, if you get a well made bag that will last many years it becomes part of you and you don't have to think about what pocket you put somthing in.
Another point that I'll bring up is that you don't have to use it just for carpentry, I've used one for many different jobs, it can save a huge amount of steps !
If you can, get a good one, take care of it and it will last a long time, mine is 44 years old and still good!
Thanks for sharing and take care.
From the few videos I've watched of you sir it's clearly evident to me your a exceptional craftsman, with nothing shy of pure good intentions to share with your fellow man , you're an absolute credit to your community, I wish you all the best
i was a cableman for more than 20 years and for almost 15 of those years used a cordura bag made by buck - the knife company. that thing was great. buck had moved out of the area, and quit making this bag long before it retired, so i hung on to it longer than most would, but i just loved how i could work out of that bag. (a colleague of mine called it my "homeless" bag). for the right job, heavy cordura does just fine. especially when you work in the rain and everything you work with gets soaked.
you are the man, I don't know a thing about carpentry and starting to work a job in 1 month, my friend said just learn a tape measure and he'll train me the rest. your videos are great, I feel I'm learning so much before I actually start lol. But I know your just making it look easier said then done
I spent the extra money and bought a nice tool belt like 6 years ago and it makes a huge difference. I went with a company called Atlas 46 who makes modular heavy duty military webbing style bags and 6 years later they are just as good or better than the day I bought them. The nice thing about a modular system is you can add or remove every piece of it and change things up depending on what kind of work your doing. I've changed my belt configuration 3 times by adding or removing different pouch types and my current setup is so damn efficient it feels like part of my body. They have tons of different pouches, sheaths, loops, holsters, and add ons. One really cool thing I've recently added to my belt are magnetic panels which vary in different strengths, I have a light streagth one right by my buckle for holding screws or driver/drill bits, a second of the same strength on the my left side, a smaller on the outside of my tape measure pouch cover (it has very nice a semi ridged lid flap), and some heavy magnets on my suspenders which are strong enough to hold just about any hand tool such as Chisels, screwdrivers, wrenches, shit they are strong enough to hold a Crowbar or large pipe wrench if you really want too. My next investment will be one of their chest rigs which can attach any of my pouches or accessories, it also can attach to your belt for support like suspenders do. Nice thing about a vest is it distributes that weight better and doesn't put so much pressure on your hips or even shoulders like suspenders because you spread you gear between the chest rig and belt. I highly recommend Atlas 46 to anyone in the trades, they can get expensive depending on what your trying to do but it is definitely worth every penny. I got mine in olive tan, but for a more traditional contractor look they have it in black too or camouflage if you want to hide in the bushes to avoid an annoying customer. My I also have the same belt in this video but atlas was an upgrade from that if you can believe it, haven't touched my leather since.
I haveThe older Occidental nylon beltless bags have been worth every penny, the pockets still hang open they have been used off and on for over 15 years....putting them back on soon for a while. Nylon dries faster,,, living in western Washington. I grew up in Philomath west of Corvallis, watching your videos affirms a lot of my choices in tools and such, Please continue the channel
I’m in bridge construction. Lots of forms ,metal/connecting and vertical work of all sorts. Been on a 4 span stone arch bridge for a few months. Have a normal set of occidental bags for framing/forms. Plus another set on my climbing gear. Nothing like setting whalers and turning bolts 50 foot in the air. Worth every penny!
I have the Occidental bags and only worked carpentry in the summers for 17 years (during teacher 'vacation' time--to make enough to raise a family) and mine are worn but still have many years of work left in them. Love them and well worth the extra cost. Give them a little leather treatment every few years to blend with the sweat and dirt and they will last well!
I’ve been a carpenter for over fifty years and you’re absolutely right on the tool bags 👍
My old man was a roofer's roofer. He learned from the old country Germans & Polish roofers. He could lay out a roof with no chalkline or square and be perfect even on an out of square deck. His tool "belt" was a giveaway canvas apron that he'd get at the lumber yards & suppliers. That's it. Well, that and a Sears hammer that he'd wear out and take back and get a new one every year when Sears used to replace your tools for free. LOL
He gave me my first one and I added a coat hanger fashioned hammer loop off the string and I riveted a sleeve into one of the pockets for my knife sheath. Roofing nails in the left pocket, 16D nails in the right for brackets.
I got a hand me down carpenter's pouch which I rigged up with a real hammer loop & knife sheath, then I went on to buy my first real tool belt set, an AWP Oil Tanned Leather set that I customized. I'd wear them out every 5 years or so, but they were the best value on the market.
Then I graduated & treated myself to a set of Occidental Framers that I also customized and never looked back. I'd tell anyone starting out today to bypass everything else and get a set of Rooster Products/AWP oil tanned pouches and to build their own set-up "if" leather was their thing. AWP's are Occidentals on a budget.
I've now had my Oxy's for goin' on 17 years now. Honestly, I can't see myself wearing them out. I'm not as active, but I sure put them through their paces when I was. You'd be hard pressed to really go through a set in less than that time.
I'm sure nylon's great, but nothing forms itself to the user like leather. It's like a broken-in pair of boots. They become familiar and you can reach into your rig without even looking and just instinctually know where everything is. It becomes part of you like any good tool does.
I bought a heavy leather set of bags when I was framing in the late 80s early 90s it has been passed around a few times to friends and family came back to me a few years ago. It is a craftsman but it still does the job for being over 27 years old.
wranglerstar turned me on to occidental leather. happy to see another top notch craftsman echoing the praise of these tool belts. I'm just a homeowner/DIY type. but I'm going get the full grain bags. they'll surely be the last set I buy. plus I plan on building an addition to my workshop so I can move out the lawn and yard equipment, leaving me with more dedicated workspace.
A carpenter for 40 plus years enjoy your videos I even learned a couple of things from ya thanks great job
You know what! I once joined a crew of carpenters and I was the only one wearing a tool belt!! Because of that, they nicknamed me Rambo!! Hahaha 😂
I live in Peru, and you rarely ever see a carpenter wearing a tool belt/bag. I'm one of the rare here. I wear a Stanley nylon tool belt. It's light, comfortable and was quite low priced compared to a DeWalt leather one. The curious thing is that I bought that tool belt when I still worked as a translator! In that moment I didn't have the smallest interest in becoming a full time carpenter! It all started with a drill my girlfriend gave me as a birthday gift! I already had a good hammer,... I always liked having my tools.
This tool belt has been a really good purchase. My tools have found their perfect spots in it. Been wearing it on jobs for 2 years now. Anyone that sees me coming for a job immediately looks to it and likes it a lot. It certainly makes you or helps you look professional.
I'll try to upload some pictures to share here. You'll see my set up, and I hope you like it too! Haha
Good night, Mr.
God bless you.
Some of us cut a pencil in half tape the two halves flexibly together as this break away design actually extends the useful life span if a lot of frame crawling is required
Occidental are hands down the best bags. There are two types of Carpenters, Those who are into having the best and coolest tools, and those that aren't. Both can be very good at what they do, very efficient and very skilled. However, I am a carpenter that always has to have the best stuff. And Occidental leather belts are well worth the up front cost. Its an investment. "You buy cheap, you'll buy twice." Thanks for the video.
My dad was a framer most of his life. There’s a satisfaction in doing framing work like no other.
I agree, gotta keep your tape on one side and pencil on the other. They always go in the same spot. You never have to look to get them or put them back. Another PRO TIP (I'm not a pro though): Lay all your nails flat in your hand before you put them in your bags, that way when you reach in for nails, you don't poke your fingers. 16d always in the same spot. 8d always in another. I leave one spot open for whatever random nail/screw I'm working with that day if it's not 16d or 8d.
Another thing I've added to my work gear: overalls/bibs. I don't like suspenders on my nail bags, but when you wear just the belt it pulls your pants down. The overalls won't fall down, you won't have plumbers crack, and you've got some nice chest pockets for a pencil and your cell phone that won't get smashed when leaning on things.
That's pro knowledge right there sir. It's how I load my bags as well.
These are the best carpenter tool bags ever made! Purchased mine (pro framer) over twenty years ago and I still use them! Well worth the investment.
Occidental Leather and Carhartt, two GREAT American companies. I love Occidental Leather tool bags!
Been using Occidental Leather tool pouches since 2000. Best tool pouches EVER!
I started in this trade in 1983 with blue and white strip bibs and loved them but the occidental tool bags are by far the best
I'm a carpenter of 24 years. I agree. I own nearly the same Occidental bags myself. Well worth the investment in your craft.
Wow that's efficient. I spend far too much time looking for tools I put down. Well worth the investment. I seem to work so often squatting or on my knees ( or up a ladder) then I always need a tool not to hand. It's all wasted time!
Scott, I've been using an Occidental framing rig for years. 3" wide belt with leather Occidental suspenders. It's a great durable setup but man is it heavy! Even empty it's heavy! If I'm working in one location for any length of time I hang it from a nail and just visit when I need something. After a day with it on it's a GREAT relief to take it off!.
I have been using Occidental bags for the past 15 years . I just bought my second set last year but I used the nylon and leather bags . I decided to try out their beltless system and after getting used to it I really like it . it really takes the strain off your hips if you're a carpenter and you carry a lot of tools in your bags you know what I'm talking about . these bags cost three times the money of normal off-the-shelf stuff but you get 10 to 20 years out of them. Made in the good old USA
I just replaced a set of Dead On bags with the Occidental pro framer bags. This video helped to sell me on their product. Thank you for your honest reviews and the knowledge you pass on.
My old man had (has?) a set of these. I remember him telling me this same advice! I used to love wearing them when I happened to. I had good bags for synthetic, but the Occidentals just kind of melded to the body and gave good tool control. Thanks for making me think about that! I miss those days sometimes.
I have always thought the same way when it come to tape, pencil, speed square. It's the most logical positioning and fastest. And yes, it does make a difference when it saves seconds and time is money! Great wisdom sir. I wish I could work along side you. I think we'd get along.
Just for the record, Occidental bags are the best. I bought my first set a while back and actually enjoy putting them on. So comfortable that I hardly notice carrying a heavy framing rig at all. The absolute best part is the layout of the bags. Every movement you make to grab a tool could not be more natural and quick. I would never buy a cheap set of bags again. Food for thought.
I had a pair of nylon bags and I blew them out in about a year. I bit the bullet, dropped the $300, and bought the occidental 7 pouch framer bag set. It is by far my best tool and I wouldn't replace them for anything. I work with guys that have had there occi bags for over 20 years and there still performing strong. Trust me.... just buy them. You'll spend more money in the long run replacing junk home depot bags. I bought mine locally at a lumber yard, but they also can be bought on Amazon. If your a serious carpenter, you own occidental tool bags, period.
1 tip for bag layout...
For right handed people, put tools on the right side of your bags and fasteners on the left. Reverse for lefties.
Juggling tools between hands wastes time and slows people down tremendously.
Every time a new apprentice comes on my crew that's the first thing I suggest after looking at there layout.
Sounds obvious but you would be surprised....
I got myself the 7 bag framer too and i hate the fact that tape holder is on the right. I would be a bad apprentice 😂
Btw did you see de green building framer from occi?
Sober JokR yes I have seen the green "lightweight" bags and they are great too they just don't have the lifespan of the leather ones in my opinion. Also, I know some good carpenters who use their tape in the small pouch on the top left of the bag. It works, but your losing a place to put small fasteners. I use that pouch for #8 pan head framers, pop rivits, or other loose ends. It's all preference but I think it's faster for a righty to have tools on the right.
Rob Moab im talking about a leather tool belt. Green building framer. Check it out on occi web site
Wore craftsman bags for years until I got tired of fixing them. Bought Occidental Leather 10 years ago and I will never buy another system again!
The funny thing is I set up my bags the same as you because I'm Righty, however we read the tape backwards and do things lefty many Times I find. Would love to see the "Hammer" video next. I carry a titanium stiletto 12oz. Oz to be honest if I break the handle I will stop everything until it's fixed!! I will not swing a heavy hammer again! 😂
Bought my Occidental bags when I built my house, 27 years ago. Still have them.....
A superintendent told me once that the leather bags should last you a lifetime and if they dont your in the wrong trade lol
CGP CEEZ or you’re leaving them out in the truck when it rains 😂
I was wondering when this video would be posted. You teased us when you were building the shed.
Yes - I pay attention and devour every drop of information you put forth. Been in the business 24/7 since 1980. Never too old or know too much to learn how others do it. I wish you lived closer. We'd sure have some fun making sawdust.
Genuinely enjoy all you videos and encourage my son to watch them because your a much better teacher than I am
I currently have a nylon Dewalt bag that's lasted me over 5 years. Got it with on sale with Canadian Tire gift cards that we got as wedding presents so I don't regret the purchase. They're starting to wear (mostly where my hammer sits. Lol) but probably have a couple of years of life left in them. Definitely thinking of switching to occidental when they're done. The speed square holder alone would be enough to interest me. I like my dewalt bags for a lot of things but holding a speed square is not one of them. Thanks for sharing your experiences. We can always learn from others experiences and be very helpful to how you grow, as a carpenter and as a person. I want to say you are helping me do both.
I have that same bag belt setup, 15 years and counting. not a pro carpenter but I've done it for a work more than average. far more expensive than clc and cheap bags but soooo worth it. I could stand to have a few other loops better suited for certain tools like a flat bar, but almost perfect as is. fwiw I keep a 24oz framing hammer in the rear hammer loop and 14oz finish in the bag loop. also added a drill holster to the back.for a cordless.
I prefer the metal Estwing hammer. As a concrete guy by choice I pull a lot of nails, not because they are in the wrong place but because that’s what you do. Nail it together. Place and finish your concrete. Pull the nails to remove the forms. Clean the forms. Repeat the process. I also use the flat part of the handle as a scraper for cleaning forms. Multi tool if you will. Keep up the good work.
I love my Occidental toolbelt
Sir you channel is damn near better than the 4 years of apprenticeship schooling I had to go through. I just put my middle son on to your channel. He wants to get into the trades
Mine are set up almost identically. I've got two hammer loops in the back, one for my nice framing hammer and the other changes per the task. Can't be smacking your catspaw or wonder bar with a Stilletto, now. It's almost time for a new set, I'll be looking into the Occidentals. Thanks!
California Carpenter, ah, go ahead and feel free to whoop on a cat's paw or whatever you want with your Stiletto titanium. I do the same with mine (Dalluge 'Douglas' 14oz) and it doesn't damage it all. Truth brother.
Bought one cheap pair in 2000 it lasted until 2002 bought a good pair like these and haven't looked back. Not only do you save money in the long run you look cool doing it.
I got my first pair of occidental leather nail bags today and love them ! Hopefully theyre my last pair . I’m a framer / post Frame builder and am very rough on my bags so hopefully they hold up to the work !
Too short! More and more you're one of my favorite you tubers. You speek your experience.
I would like to learn more about layouts. How you transfer diagrams to real life projects.
Effective ways to mark 3-4-5 (two tape measures or a better system) etc.
I hung up my leather bags years ago. Never owned a set of Occidentals, just made due with whoever made Craftsman or Die Hard bags from Sears. But honestly, they did me solid. I'd replace a pouch here and there but I always bought the ones with the metal hammer loop on the side and kept my tape on the back.
Since I got out of rough carpentry and more into other fields like low voltage, I switched to a Makita tool vest and boy do I appreciate not having all the weight on my hips anymore.
you're absolutely right I have a set of Occidental bags as well and they are wonderful.
This video inspired me to pick up an Occidental tool belt and bags. Quite simply amazing! Thank you sir for highlighting this fantastic product!
BAM!! Love it. You are truly a Craftsman. Getting ready to build my garage and learning a ton from you. Thank you.
I have that exact belt.also for about 15 years it was expensive but it's still going strong..I highly recommend it..buy cheap buy twice..
A very thorough approach to layout and function. In my relatively short (professional) custom building career, I had to design my own belts. Much of that had to do with being left handed. Being too cheap to spring for the good stuff, I cut new ones apart and reconfigured them to suit me. I, too, had the metal hammer loop in the back. I found out that I needed to practice getting it into the loop since you only get to drop your hammer once from the second floor and taking out the owner's loaded coffee cup!
I invested in my bags 17 yrs ago.
Occidental Leather bags will cost you $300 for a proper set to work comfortably
I have the sheepskin pads that make the bags more comfortable.
I wouldn’t buy any other brand of tool bags.
They are the best.
You look professional,you will act professionally
As a first year apprentice I bought a set of Occidental bags because that's what everyone used. I was extremely happy with the purchase but I bought the wrong layout for me. I sold them and bought my second set that was the correct layout. Long story short 11 years later I'm still using the same bags. It's different here in Sonoma county where the city of Occidental is because all of the serious tradesmen have these bags
I have leather-trimmed nylon bags from Occidental, on my second leather belt and my third set of suspenders, both bags are open at the top and going strong (I had to jury rig the tape holder about ten years ago)!!
great channel, just stumbled on it, I love your forthrightness!!
The focus on having tape and square on the left and pencil on the right (for right handers) just makes for so much more efficient working. It just becomes second nature (as you eloquently demonstrated). I know I would have a hard time adjusting to any other way. I'm thinking of swapping out my Bucket Boss tool belt for an Oxy and found that the only one that seemed to keep the same configuration with a large tape pocket is the 5087. Looking forward to your build. Keep up the great work.
Occidental is the way to go. Expensive but worth it, not like a keychain my parents had for a nissan minivan in the 90s.
I bought one full set about 6 years ago or so. It looks worn, but it's not torn or ripped whatsoever. I paid something like 500 canadian for mine with suspenders, but it has been asbolutely worth it.
A good investment for guys who are just starting to get into the trades... but make sure you get one with a speed square pocket!
You make the best videos they are so helpful I love it
One of the tricks I used for years was wearing bib overalls. With those, you can essentially hang your pants from your shoulders and leave the waist loose. That way wood chips from overhead drilling like an electrician or plumber ( I was both) would produce would "flow through" and out the bottom rather than get caught in your pants. LOL Just pull your tool belt off and shake them on through.
i have a set up similar to yours only i am not a carpenter,i work on a assembly line in rv's.i find those handy i use a lot of 1" screws and ...P clips j clips i call them looms. my only issue if when i half to work on the floor my screws dump out all over.My remedy is to mount some neodymium magnets on the back of the pouch they are more than powerful enough to hold the screws in. dont know if that'll be useful to anyone or not,but it helped me.
That's a good tip... thanks :D
i bought a makita belt and attached a few pouches. VERY strong and the pouches are reinforced to stay open. great buy for framing
Love his analysis towards economy of motion. Brilliant
Best tool belts in the world
Not everyone can explain the advantage of quality materials, you certainly can. Thanks!
Practical, honest, efficient, charming
I loved the sagging pants analogy. I hate with all my heart not haveing a belt. An older friend once told me that sagging was a courting ritual. That you exposed your undies in a gesture of offering yourself "behind" to some one.
I love my occidental leather bags and I love your videos about carpentry.
A good pair of suspenders is also a great place to put some extra gear, assuming it is suitable to fitting in a snug holding pocket. (You don't want large open pouches that dump stuff if you bend over after all.) Can be a handy spot for a pencil, or for things like a try-angle or combination square if your hip pouches already have a lot of stuff in them.
2020 is around the corner and I'm here to say how much I've been enjoying this channel and every video. Slow clap...
Nice tool bag, had a look and way to expensive for me a hobbyist but maybe one day. Just subscribed, cool videos
Well, at least you have a bar to strive for. I have several sets of bags, set up for a few different purposes and not just a big framing rig. You can buy pouches and belts individually to set up for your needs.
Hey reaching out for some advice, I cannot get occidental out of my mind and I’m going to purchase one for Christmas ( getting one as a gift from the wife) and I can’t decide which one. I like the original one buscadaro 5191 or the 5080 or the adjust to fit fat lip. I’m only a diy guy who like to do carpentry at the weekend but as you say these will last the rest of time and I want to make the right choice, and I would like to incorporate the suspenders. The only thing I am not mad about in the adjust to fit is that it’s not all leather. HELP!!! 5 bag or 7 bag framers rig.......
Really appreciate if you reach back out
Thanks for taking the time to educate us!