Great video. PGF saved my California fescue lawn all big box fertilizers wouldn’t move my dormant lawn. I put down PGF with a bag of Humichar and I am thick healthy dark green. Won’t be using nothing but PGF & Humichar from now on ! Great Stuff
Thank you for the video complement and glad to hear that you also have success with PGF Complete. Andersons is not cheap but I feel that the little more in cost delivers in results. I'm surely not getting anything much from pushing it but darn its a great fertilizer. Thanks again for commenting and be well.
I would not assume that it is. I keep people and kids off lawn until watered in. I beleive they actually market a pet safe fertilizer: amzn.to/4aAHtSr You can also reach out about PGF Complete at: The Andersons Inc. (Lawn Products) PO Box 119 Maumee, Ohio, USA 43537 FOR EMERGENCY: (800) 757-8951 FOR INFORMATION: (419) 893-5050
I don’t have a Scott’s spreader but according to chart, link below, looks like “4.5”. www.walmart.com/ip/The-Andersons-PGF-Complete-16-4-8-Lawn-Fertilizer-with-Humic-DG-5-000-sq-ft/285672602
😆. I do like his products. I bounce back and forth between Andersons and YM. Lots of good products besides those too. I think the key is effort. Keep the turf fed, protect from insects and fungus. It all adds up to an outstanding lawn.
We just bought our 1st house with a nice yard and I spent a lot of time researching fertilizers and pre emergents being that “fall” gets here in the south a little later. I came across this fertilizer and I decided to give it a try. I’ll let you know how the results go! Off topic but I’ll use the pre emergent in early November
Wilmintonian18: Nice to hear from you and congrats on the house! Andersons PGF-C is a great fertilizer, maybe somewhat more costly but I've seen more than one lawn respond favorably. Water it in and let me know what you think. Pre emergent here also in November.
Russ, I am following up on this video because I down PGF complete a month ago. It is really good stuff! This video captures your authentic joy from the results of this product. I am currently feeling the same thing. 👍
Ruben I totally agree. PGF is still a favorite of mine, although I favor higher K ferts for the sumner, rest assured PGF will be back on my lawn when the summer heat is behind 😀
PGF has been my favorite overall but recently I've been using the yard mastery blends. This year I've mostly used the starter fertilizer blend since I was low on phosphorus
I think next year I'm going to have to put down humic and other products more. Every year I'm noticing the same areas of my lawn having spots dying off.
Great video, how long does that deep green last? Your yards looks great 👍👍.. Will you used it again right before fall, before reseeded or afterwards ? Thanks
I apply every 5-6 weeks. If your over-seeding you can substitute a starter fert. I usually do a last round of PGF-C early November, before we go into fert blackout. My cool season turf stays green into December. Loves the cool weather.
I put pgf and Purely Organic down just before a 2 inch rain a couple of weeks ago. Looks great. I have zoysia and under fed last year because of the heat and it suffered but now it's responding well to the PGF. I'm in central Texas.
I think I’ve seen purely organic at Home Depot? I may give it a run, organic ferts are great for warmer weather and have longer duration. I think I’ll try that combo for my next fert! Thanks
Ray. It’s a bit pricey but gives my KBG great color and thickness. Put down at bag rate, let me know how it looks after. Be sure to water regardless of what fert you choose.
@@LawnJourneys just dropped it today and watered it in heavy. We have rain in the morning. I will keep u posted. I have bermuda so hopefully it gives it a nice kick.
Ken thanks for the nice comment. I generally water 1/2” three times per week. I do have irrigation and the controller automatically cancels a watering event if rain is predicted. I’ve been wanting to share in a future video.
12-12-12 is pretty universal and I’ve used it for dialect fert of the season, from time to time. PGF-C has an excellent prill size (small), and has a nice stack of micros and iron. Results in great color for my cool season grass. There is also a non P version, which should be used if your soil is high in P. www.amazon.com/dp/B09B4555L9/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_SMFF1JQ7F8BACFPCQ1B3?linkCode=ml1&tag=lawnjourneys-20
PGF-C is still my all time favorite fert. I just ran it on another lawn and got a few comments on how good the lawn looks. I also did a few rounds of bio-stims this season. I think I may run nothing but PGF-C on that lawn for the entire season, next year (and continue bio-stims, insect, fungus control etc.). Watched one of your vids, what part of the north east are you in?
PGF-C is a straight up fertilizer. I feel there are benefits to these products over some of the blended big box store ferts. You can use PGF-C all season but would have to do separate distinct apps of weed and insect control if you feel you need. I prefer liquid weed killers, such as Speed Zone for weed control. amzn.to/3OwJOmX You can apply it from a hose end sprayer for blanket coverage (if you have a large weed infestation) or from a pump sprayer for targeted weed control (this is how I currently use it). Same applies to insect control. There are insect specific granular or liquid apps you can utilize. Spectracide Triazicide Insect Killer for Lawns (read the label to make sure it targets your insect infestation. amzn.to/3xZiZAP amzn.to/3OMbfZH There are other products for insect "Prevention" such as GrubX but you need to apply at the proper time: th-cam.com/video/MUB-wytK_q8/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps and thanks for watching the video.
Art: I think I'm going to roll with PGF-C the rest of the season. I am doing a fall overseed, so I may substitute one feeding with a starter fert, probably from Yard Mastery if in stock. With that said, I may skip the fall pre-emergent or put it down very late, maybe December. I feel that it stops germination of winter weeds in Jan/Feb when we sometimes get moderate temps in NJ. I know folks say no pre-emergent after seeding but I'll put it down late, same thing I did last year. I may take a break on overseeding next fall, if things are in good shape. Its a lot of work. Thanks for dropping a comment, feel free to share your plan.
I am using Andersons 16-0-8 firtilizer on Bermuda lawn in high temperature texas . Should this be given in a lesser setting to prevent burning of lawn? Thank you
According to Andersons you can apply at the bag rate for Bermuda. They recommend 1/2 rate for Centipede and also 3/4 rate for cool season grasses in the summer. I don’t have Bermuda but understand it’s almost indestructible, just keep it watered. If you don’t irrigate you may want to apply at 1/2 rate because your Bermuda could go dormant in drought conditions and probably wouldn’t utilize the N.
Thank you for this video. Frankly, I just Google search something that would show me the granule size. Do you think the size grade number is about a 100 on this fertilizer? I'm confused about the don't cut the grass or cut the grass or don't collect the clippings or mulch or after putting this product down. Can you go over that again for the simple-minded me? As one who is on and off trained about owning his own golf course the past 15 years, I would pay $10 a bag premium over a big-box brand just so I could know that I'm using a golf course quality. You get what you pay for. I got kind of a no-name brand from an independent garden-center years ago. Granule size was about the size of round peppers that are put in restaurant pepper shakers to be ground. The bag said 26% nitrogen but it just doesn't-maybe I don't have the microbes in the soil-but it appears on this video the 16% nitrogen in this bag does much better than the 26% nitrogen did in the bags I used. It's only been 5 days but I expected a bigger kick out sooner of the 3% anmonical nitrogen.
Michael: Thanks for the comment. I beieve the “SGN” (Size Guide Number) for PGF Complete is 150 (1 to 1.5 mm diameter). I'm not a greens professional and understand there are smalller prills out there. With that said, applications of PGF complete go through a dense turf canopy very easily. I fell that the application is distributed much more evenly than some of the larger prill size brands. My comment about cutting is personal preference since I bag. The prills are small and fertilizer is expensive these days. I'm trying not to suck any of it up which is why I cut first, then apply and irrigate (rain or irrigation) prior to next cut. There may be other comperable brands or better (you may know more than I) but I'm very satisfied with the response and longevity of an application. Let me know how your app went.
@@LawnJourneys Thank you for the quick and more than just 20 words reply. The last oil test I had performed was in August of 2021. 10 years prior to this or so I dumped a ton of gypsum on the lawn to try and break up the clay. The soil test said this was the wrong answer as I have just over 5200 parts per million or 90% calcium in the base saturation. The tester did not test for nitrogen. While he claimed I was low on potassium, the soil test that I had 116 parts-per-million which is ample on the research I've been doing online lately the phosphorous was 87 parts-per-million which tester said was high. Therefore, I've been kind of using specialty not sold and big-box stores or even medium box stores fertilizers. I'm also going a little more organic since I'm only taking care of about 850 square feet. I'm using down-to-earth products such as langbeinite, it's blood meal, and it's humic acid. What does Doc push: Humichar? Bio Char? I might get some of that as well. It's been pretty much a drought since April. I've had to water water water until we finally got to rain in about forty-eight hours ago. I was proven right as the northern and neighbor lawns that dominating mine are now looking a little peaked while I'm starting to get a medium green color. I have some chelated iron spray which I believe I'll throw on there for Father's Day party on Sunday to see if I can get a Chicago White Sox guaranteed rate field dark green. I did buy a $60 pH meter which proves that where I spell extra sulfur and fertilizer that grass is dark green and growing 33% faster than the rest of the lawn which kind of tipped-me-off that I did not have enough nitrogen working. I put some on last weekend and today I sprayed some out of a tank sprayer to try and push it while the weather is below 80 degrees Fahrenheit. I think some of the fertilizer I was using in the spraying was where all the urea nitrogen six-year-old fertilizers probably volatilized out despite my wrapping the bags. That's the only way unless I just didn't put enough product on that I starved the grass. I'll do another soil test this August as I don't apply nitrogen and July and August typically cuz the weather's too hot here in Chicago. If I can get more bass saturation with potassium and I think the Megan needs was 302 parts-per-million so that should be okay push a little zinc and copper or boron to try and get that calcium percentage down to around 80 ppm. I'll probably take me a few years. I'm about five years into trying to drop the soil from 7.5 and I got it down to a 7.2-7.1 and my meter tear last week. Limestone quarries all around me and calcium and the tap water really makes it tough if I don't get any rain water to drop the pH. Talk to you later and continued gmmsuccess with your lawn.
@@LawnJourneys From what I recall reading online as pertains to golf course grounds maintenance: A "150 SGN" is definitely a fairways and maybe a tee-box size granule. Obviously could be used in the rough but would not be as cost-effective. The 150 SGN size-I can't remember- if this could be used on greens but I know anything 100 SGN or lower can be used in the greens. Believe the Andersons came out with 85 SGN for the new types of greens that have an even more dense foliage
No joke literally put PGF-C down today. I’ll probably do one more in November. If you haven’t fed your lawn I’d do the same, now and November (where are you located?). If you have weeds I’d hit it with a liquid lawn safe weed killer. If your in super hot weather and can’t irrigate, then I’d hold up a few weeks, your lawn may be dormant. In any case, anything you start now or this fall will show benefits now and put you ahead next spring.
Good to know you are in Jersey Same here thanks for showing this video. I’m a lawn care freak and they treat lawns there’s so many types of fertilizers I want to try. But our seasons here aren’t long enough for that I’ll have to try either the PGF complete or 16 - 0-8
Hi Izzy! PGF-C is still a favorite but I do work in other ferts to see how they perform in my turf. Only get so many apps a season so its hard to experiment with too many. Thanks for leaving a comment, hope your season goes well.
@@LawnJourneys Thank you appreciate the kind thoughts was also wondering what grass type you have? My front and side yards are primarily a fescue with a little bit of Perennial rye And maybe a smidge of KGB mixed in. My backyard same idea but starting to transfer all the bald spots over to straight perennial rye having a tough time coming in even though it is supposed to be fast to germinate I think these cold New Jersey nights is something it’s not liking
@@izzyd8613 I'm primarlily KBG but there is a mix of fescue and rye from previous overseeds. Yes its been extremely cool in NJ this spring. if you did a spring seed then its probably not all germinated yet. If you seeded last fall then its all just slow to get going this year. I haven't cut in 10 days and normally it would have grown a few inches easy in seven. Cutting tomorrow but my 10 day forecast only shows one day over 70 in that span. Hopefully May will be nice and you know the heat is going to come. Keep in touch.
@@LawnJourneys only had my lawn cut once this spring so far. I usually do my self can’t wait to get back to mowing and treating my lawn but post hernia surgery still have to wait on that
@@LawnJourneys not sure if I should order pgf insanely expensive $73 on Amazon for 10,000 square feet. R u Familiar with site one? Btw were I typically go I once tried ym 7-0-20 also great stuff
I just used the link to order this product I had a local company treating my lawn and it was/is beautiful but they increased their price first year 90 per treatment last year 165 this year they wanted 190 per treatment. So... Wish me luck
Thats a huge increase. I hear fert has gone way up but seems like DIY lawn fert products have not increased as drastically. Let me know what you think. PFG is still one of my favorites and gets applied a few times each season. Don't overlook any needed weed prevention/treatment, fungus or insect apps that your lawn company was likely doing. Thanks for checking out the video.
@@justhumblemeclarke7292 Did you apply at bag rate? How much area did you treat and how much fert did you use. Also, did it get watered in? How long has the product been down? Lots of questions I know.
@@LawnJourneys used the bag rate but I think I watched too many TH-cam videos. The guy suggested for proper coverage to reduce the amount by half and go across the lawn vertically then horizontally. I applied nearly 2 weeks ago. There was rain almost immediately after spreading. Actually sprinkling as I put the equipment in the garage. My neighbor stayed with the company and his lawn was treated a month ago and looks AMAZING! I also treated for insects a week ago haven't treated for fungus yet.
You’re talking me into it. I still mis Carbon Earth Products. I have a bag of CX I’m planning to use in September. In the meantime I’m going to try PGF Complete . Thank you for the encouragement.
Mike really get a great color from it. Lawn looks healthy too. Try it some time. Yes I was also a Carbon Earth fan, too bad. That bag is gold! Sure you want to put it down 😀
Roger: I go monthly in spring and fall, 5-6 weeks in summer. However it can get $, 5 weeks is probably more than adequate. I like to maintain the green color 😀
@@rogerhanyip6118 I like to go every 5-6 max. PGF does maintain color long, in my experience. 8 weeks is a bit of a stretch even though the bag says 6-8. It’s a slow release fert so throw it down and watch the color response. If it stays green past 6, then run it out to 8 and re-apply. It’s a great product.
@@rosiesingleton6480 Nothing wrong with Scott’s! I think step 3 is fert with insect control. PGF-C has no insecticide. If you feel that you want to manage for insects you can get some insect control and apply as a separate app. Amazon had Triazicide on sale. amzn.to/3HnF1kQ You can apply both on same day, separate spreader events or do the insect app the following week.
Milo is a 6-4-0 PGF is a 16-4-8 If you apply both at the bag rate you’d be applying 22% Nitrogen which could be a little heavy pushing growth. I personally would start the season with PGF and then follow with the Milo in 4-6 weeks. The organic sun the milo will probably have a better impact when the ground is warmer. You can run this combo all year but I’d separate the apps for reasons noted.
In my lawn I fertilize ever 5-6 weeks in season. I do supplement once a month with some bio-stims. However, I've used PFG Complete on a relatives turf and it stays green between applications. I really like the product.
@@chipdip6577 Yes over the years it’s been over seeded with various KBG blends, some had tall fescue, hence my reference to a “salad bowl.” Last three over-seeds were Cool Blue blend only.
Wow! Now, that’s what I call good color!!! I watched another video you did on Yard Mastery’s Double Dark, though. How do you like this blend of PGF compared to the Double Dark? I’ve heard great things about both of them. The most notable difference I see between the two is the recommended intervals between applications. With the PGF, I see it’s recommended that you wait 6 to 8 weeks between apps. With the DD, it’s okay to apply every month. I like the idea of spoon feeding, for more consistent color in my lawn, but if the PGF gives good, consistent color all the way up until the following application, 6 to 8 weeks later, I could definitely live with that. What are your thoughts on that?
Hey Victor. I really like the color from PFG Complete and think it provides a longer lasting green. With that said I usually do an app every 5 weeks in season. Admittingly I only tried the YM DD once, will probably give it another shot this season coming, I Love trying different products. Lots of folks "spoon feed" at half the bag rate, applying every 2-3 weeks. So many ways to feed your turf. I don't necessarily do the same thing year to year because I like to see how may turf responds to various products and application rates. With that said, I do find myself coming back to PFG Compete often. Its not cheap but I feel it gives a deep green for a longer period, so maybe its cost effective in comparison. Sorry not a definitive answer for you. Be well and thanks for checking out my vid.
@@PCConditioning Yes it’s fine. If your using a sole crabgrass preventer, product with Zero N, and the also apply PGF-C, product with N. I did just that this season, see two recent videos fro m this season. Other option is you start with a combo product, Scott’s with Halts crabgrass control, doing a single combined app to get things started. You could then run PGF-C as your second N app of the season.
You can but you may do better with a starter fert, higher P and K. Best time to versed cool season lawns is in the fall. Much better success rate. Not saying it won’t work in spring but new grass can suffer in summer heat.
@@LawnJourneysso use this pfg complete in October? I overseeded mid September with starter fertilizer. So next week will be four weeks. So I was thinking of applying starter fertilizer again. Site One has a starter fertilizer with mestrone. I used lesco starter fertilizer on my first application. So please advise. Thanks
@@brodygoalie I would go with the PGF since it has 16% P (great for new seed rootinng) and will green up the rest of the lawn nicely. If you have a major weed issue now you could do a seperate app of Meso or tackle it in the spring (what I normally do). Good luck and enjoy.
16% N. Not sure how over you went but it’s a mix of fast and extended N so I’d think your probably ok. Keep it watered. I really don’t like using a drop spreader with fert because you have to be more precise with pattern. Let me know how it turns out 😀
@@commanderlawn2886 thanks for replying. I almost feel like it was applied double. I'm going to change my watering schedule and water every day for a week see if that helps.
@@commanderlawn2886 it's been one day is there anything I can besides water it? I'm only asking because a big piece of property that has really good grass grass growth. I've been using organic products only and I decided to try pgf. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
How over did you go? Ie. How much do you think you applied per 1000ft2? In any case is a mix of fast and slow release. Watering will help push the fast release through the soil. If you don’t see much yellowing or browning then your probably ok. Also I know some folks will refrain from cutting, longer blades will participate in more photosynthesis wherein growing grass should utilize more nutrients . Let me know how you make out.
150 from the documentation I’ve found. Some may consider too large for greens. I’m not an authority on Fert sizes but it’s the finest I’ve found so far. Thanks for commenting.
@@LawnJourneys when my stand was healthy (terrible currently 🥴) 100 or lower would only make it's way through the dense canopy. I put similar size down back then and laid on top causing some burn spots where the pellets of N sat.
I’m trying not order my ferts for this year, questions on this App you did, did you put it down end of July or early August? Didn’t harm your glrass cause of high N?
All of these products by Anderson are awesome. The issue is it is high in sulfur, which lowers the ph. Could have a negative effect if lime is not used a high levels.
WOW !!!!! HOLY SMOKES!!! Your lawn looks beautiful! I just used mi!o and iron pro about 3 weeks ago will it be okay to go ahead and apply this?
I fert every 5 weeks or so. I think you’ll be fine. PGF C is hands down the best fert I’ve used.
The before and after is amazing. That is a good blend of fertilizer.
Yes. I’ve done two apps of Andersons thus far. Considering going all the way with it this season.
I use PGF complete also and my lawn is beautiful. This stuff works.
Agree, it has a long lasting effect too. Its one of my favorites. Thanks for taking time to comment.
Best to use in the Fall??
Great video. PGF saved my California fescue lawn all big box fertilizers wouldn’t move my dormant lawn. I put down PGF with a bag of Humichar and I am thick healthy dark green. Won’t be using nothing but PGF & Humichar from now on ! Great Stuff
Thank you for the video complement and glad to hear that you also have success with PGF Complete. Andersons is not cheap but I feel that the little more in cost delivers in results. I'm surely not getting anything much from pushing it but darn its a great fertilizer. Thanks again for commenting and be well.
That looks amazing Russ. Great job. All your hard work shows and DOMINATES. Kudos sir.
Thanks Steve. It is a true favorite in my lineup. 😀
Totally agree with your results recently applied this fert at 3lbs per thousand and my lawn looks amazing. Love this product.
Yes it’s a bit pricey but has great results. I love the prill size. I tend to gravitate to it after the summer heat.
What is FERT?
Fertilizer
Is this fertilizer pets safe? Thanks
I would not assume that it is. I keep people and kids off lawn until watered in. I beleive they actually market a pet safe fertilizer: amzn.to/4aAHtSr
You can also reach out about PGF Complete at:
The Andersons Inc. (Lawn Products)
PO Box 119
Maumee, Ohio, USA 43537
FOR EMERGENCY: (800) 757-8951
FOR INFORMATION: (419) 893-5050
What setting do I set my Scotts broadcast spreader to put down The Anderson 16-4 -8
I don’t have a Scott’s spreader but according to chart, link below, looks like “4.5”.
www.walmart.com/ip/The-Andersons-PGF-Complete-16-4-8-Lawn-Fertilizer-with-Humic-DG-5-000-sq-ft/285672602
Thank you
@@PatTierney-f3c It’s a great fert!
Are you Allyn Hanes neighbor? Is that who you were referring to as your neighbors?
😆. I do like his products. I bounce back and forth between Andersons and YM. Lots of good products besides those too. I think the key is effort. Keep the turf fed, protect from insects and fungus. It all adds up to an outstanding lawn.
Thanks for the tips
Any time
Good stuff man! I’ve been using the Anderson’s all season!
It really does perform well. Appreciate you checking out the video.
We just bought our 1st house with a nice yard and I spent a lot of time researching fertilizers and pre emergents being that “fall” gets here in the south a little later. I came across this fertilizer and I decided to give it a try. I’ll let you know how the results go! Off topic but I’ll use the pre emergent in early November
Wilmintonian18: Nice to hear from you and congrats on the house! Andersons PGF-C is a great fertilizer, maybe somewhat more costly but I've seen more than one lawn respond favorably. Water it in and let me know what you think. Pre emergent here also in November.
Russ, I am following up on this video because I down PGF complete a month ago. It is really good stuff! This video captures your authentic joy from the results of this product. I am currently feeling the same thing. 👍
Ruben I totally agree. PGF is still a favorite of mine, although I favor higher K ferts for the sumner, rest assured PGF will be back on my lawn when the summer heat is behind 😀
Just put it down yesterday and watered it. Will see how it looks in a week...
Excellent. Still my favorite, just put my second round of PGF-C down.
When I've used it, my lawn has definitely thickened up. I have liked the humic mixed in with the the fert. Wish more ferts included humic in it
Brian it performs consistently which is why it’s one of my all time favorites. What’s your current favorite?
PGF has been my favorite overall but recently I've been using the yard mastery blends. This year I've mostly used the starter fertilizer blend since I was low on phosphorus
@@brianluby8143 Yes I ran stress blend which is perfect for high heat and also ran flagship earlier this year. Great lineup there.
I think next year I'm going to have to put down humic and other products more. Every year I'm noticing the same areas of my lawn having spots dying off.
Great video, how long does that deep green last? Your yards looks great 👍👍.. Will you used it again right before fall, before reseeded or afterwards ? Thanks
I apply every 5-6 weeks. If your over-seeding you can substitute a starter fert. I usually do a last round of PGF-C early November, before we go into fert blackout. My cool season turf stays green into December. Loves the cool weather.
I put pgf and Purely Organic down just before a 2 inch rain a couple of weeks ago. Looks great. I have zoysia and under fed last year because of the heat and it suffered but now it's responding well to the PGF. I'm in central Texas.
I think I’ve seen purely organic at Home Depot? I may give it a run, organic ferts are great for warmer weather and have longer duration. I think I’ll try that combo for my next fert! Thanks
wow that a beutiful lawn i just bought some of this fertilizer.
Nice of you to comment 😀. I try different ferts but keep coming back to PGF-C, great color and the size spreads great. Let me know how it works.
i will let you know 😀
Your lawn is looking amazing Russ. I would say the product works well :)
For sure and thanks again for checking out the video. Looking forward to your ongoing reno!
Just bought this
Ray. It’s a bit pricey but gives my KBG great color and thickness. Put down at bag rate, let me know how it looks after. Be sure to water regardless of what fert you choose.
@@LawnJourneys just dropped it today and watered it in heavy. We have rain in the morning. I will keep u posted. I have bermuda so hopefully it gives it a nice kick.
@@mindyourbizness Sounds like a plan. Look forward to your review/result. 👍
@@commanderlawn2886 just gave my first cut since I dropped it.....already greening up real good. Holy smokes
@@mindyourbizness Excellent! I get a nice dark green color.
Passing by and saying Hello ... Thanks for the video.
Thanks as always. Hope things are good on your side.
@@LawnJourneys doing fine, lawn is getting some fungus pressure again but can’t use the Headway G so I went with what I had and not very effective.
Great video. Great lawn. What was your watering schedule?
Ken thanks for the nice comment. I generally water 1/2” three times per week. I do have irrigation and the controller automatically cancels a watering event if rain is predicted. I’ve been wanting to share in a future video.
Great advice sir! How would you compare it to the 12 12 12? I’m in the Midwest and the triple 12 seems to work good.
12-12-12 is pretty universal and I’ve used it for dialect fert of the season, from time to time. PGF-C has an excellent prill size (small), and has a nice stack of micros and iron. Results in great color for my cool season grass. There is also a non P version, which should be used if your soil is high in P.
www.amazon.com/dp/B09B4555L9/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_SMFF1JQ7F8BACFPCQ1B3?linkCode=ml1&tag=lawnjourneys-20
Flagship is mostly crap. That pgf complete is the real deal!!
PGF-C is still my all time favorite fert. I just ran it on another lawn and got a few comments on how good the lawn looks. I also did a few rounds of bio-stims this season. I think I may run nothing but PGF-C on that lawn for the entire season, next year (and continue bio-stims, insect, fungus control etc.). Watched one of your vids, what part of the north east are you in?
@@LawnJourneys I am in Buffalo NY. I have kbg/rye mix
@@toddsreellawn8905 Nice area. I'm in southern Jersey, KBG mostly but have mixed in rye and fescue along the way. Be good.
I absolutely love Andersons products. I can't say the same for those products that Hayne guy promotes lol.
Should you use this through out the year or should you be using different blends for weeds prevention and insects?
PGF-C is a straight up fertilizer. I feel there are benefits to these products over some of the blended big box store ferts. You can use PGF-C all season but would have to do separate distinct apps of weed and insect control if you feel you need.
I prefer liquid weed killers, such as Speed Zone for weed control.
amzn.to/3OwJOmX
You can apply it from a hose end sprayer for blanket coverage (if you have a large weed infestation) or from a pump sprayer for targeted weed control (this is how I currently use it).
Same applies to insect control. There are insect specific granular or liquid apps you can utilize.
Spectracide Triazicide Insect Killer for Lawns (read the label to make sure it targets your insect infestation.
amzn.to/3xZiZAP
amzn.to/3OMbfZH
There are other products for insect "Prevention" such as GrubX but you need to apply at the proper time:
th-cam.com/video/MUB-wytK_q8/w-d-xo.html
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the video.
Yes on🔥🔥
It’s one of my favorites. Thanks for watching.
lawn looks great- what is your fert plan rest of year?- applying pre-emergent or seeding?
Art: I think I'm going to roll with PGF-C the rest of the season. I am doing a fall overseed, so I may substitute one feeding with a starter fert, probably from Yard Mastery if in stock. With that said, I may skip the fall pre-emergent or put it down very late, maybe December. I feel that it stops germination of winter weeds in Jan/Feb when we sometimes get moderate temps in NJ. I know folks say no pre-emergent after seeding but I'll put it down late, same thing I did last year. I may take a break on overseeding next fall, if things are in good shape. Its a lot of work. Thanks for dropping a comment, feel free to share your plan.
Can't beat Anderson's products. I e tried to find better but in the end it always goes back to Anderson's
Totally agree, it really gives my turf a quality unlike few others. Keep in touch.
I am using Andersons 16-0-8 firtilizer on Bermuda lawn in high temperature texas . Should this be given in a lesser setting to prevent burning of lawn? Thank you
According to Andersons you can apply at the bag rate for Bermuda. They recommend 1/2 rate for Centipede and also 3/4 rate for cool season grasses in the summer. I don’t have Bermuda but understand it’s almost indestructible, just keep it watered. If you don’t irrigate you may want to apply at 1/2 rate because your Bermuda could go dormant in drought conditions and probably wouldn’t utilize the N.
Thank you for this video. Frankly, I just Google search something that would show me the granule size. Do you think the size grade number is about a 100 on this fertilizer?
I'm confused about the don't cut the grass or cut the grass or don't collect the clippings or mulch or after putting this product down. Can you go over that again for the simple-minded me?
As one who is on and off trained about owning his own golf course the past 15 years, I would pay $10 a bag premium over a big-box brand just so I could know that I'm using a golf course quality.
You get what you pay for. I got kind of a no-name brand from an independent garden-center years ago. Granule size was about the size of round peppers that are put in restaurant pepper shakers to be ground. The bag said 26% nitrogen but it just doesn't-maybe I don't have the microbes in the soil-but it appears on this video the 16% nitrogen in this bag does much better than the 26% nitrogen did in the bags I used. It's only been 5 days but I expected a bigger kick out sooner of the 3% anmonical nitrogen.
Michael: Thanks for the comment. I beieve the “SGN” (Size Guide Number) for PGF Complete is 150 (1 to 1.5 mm diameter). I'm not a greens professional and understand there are smalller prills out there. With that said, applications of PGF complete go through a dense turf canopy very easily. I fell that the application is distributed much more evenly than some of the larger prill size brands.
My comment about cutting is personal preference since I bag. The prills are small and fertilizer is expensive these days. I'm trying not to suck any of it up which is why I cut first, then apply and irrigate (rain or irrigation) prior to next cut.
There may be other comperable brands or better (you may know more than I) but I'm very satisfied with the response and longevity of an application.
Let me know how your app went.
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Thank you for the quick and more than just 20 words reply.
The last oil test I had performed was in August of 2021. 10 years prior to this or so I dumped a ton of gypsum on the lawn to try and break up the clay. The soil test said this was the wrong answer as I have just over 5200 parts per million or 90% calcium in the base saturation. The tester did not test for nitrogen.
While he claimed I was low on potassium, the soil test that I had 116 parts-per-million which is ample on the research I've been doing online lately the phosphorous was 87 parts-per-million which tester said was high.
Therefore, I've been kind of using specialty not sold and big-box stores or even medium box stores fertilizers. I'm also going a little more organic since I'm only taking care of about 850 square feet.
I'm using down-to-earth products such as langbeinite, it's blood meal, and it's humic acid. What does Doc push: Humichar? Bio Char? I might get some of that as well.
It's been pretty much a drought since April. I've had to water water water until we finally got to rain in about forty-eight hours ago. I was proven right as the northern and neighbor lawns that dominating mine are now looking a little peaked while I'm starting to get a medium green color. I have some chelated iron spray which I believe I'll throw on there for Father's Day party on Sunday to see if I can get a Chicago White Sox guaranteed rate field dark green.
I did buy a $60 pH meter which proves that where I spell extra sulfur and fertilizer that grass is dark green and growing 33% faster than the rest of the lawn which kind of tipped-me-off that I did not have enough nitrogen working. I put some on last weekend and today I sprayed some out of a tank sprayer to try and push it while the weather is below 80 degrees Fahrenheit.
I think some of the fertilizer I was using in the spraying was where all the urea nitrogen six-year-old fertilizers probably volatilized out despite my wrapping the bags. That's the only way unless I just didn't put enough product on that I starved the grass.
I'll do another soil test this August as I don't apply nitrogen and July and August typically cuz the weather's too hot here in Chicago. If I can get more bass saturation with potassium and I think the Megan needs was 302 parts-per-million so that should be okay push a little zinc and copper or boron to try and get that calcium percentage down to around 80 ppm. I'll probably take me a few years.
I'm about five years into trying to drop the soil from 7.5 and I got it down to a 7.2-7.1 and my meter tear last week. Limestone quarries all around me and calcium and the tap water really makes it tough if I don't get any rain water to drop the pH.
Talk to you later and continued gmmsuccess with your lawn.
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From what I recall reading online as pertains to golf course grounds maintenance:
A "150 SGN" is definitely a fairways and maybe a tee-box size granule. Obviously could be used in the rough but would not be as cost-effective.
The 150 SGN size-I can't remember- if this could be used on greens but I know anything 100 SGN or lower can be used in the greens. Believe the Andersons came out with 85 SGN for the new types of greens that have an even more dense foliage
Hey Russ , when is the best time to start spring or fall?
No joke literally put PGF-C down today. I’ll probably do one more in November.
If you haven’t fed your lawn I’d do the same, now and November (where are you located?). If you have weeds I’d hit it with a liquid lawn safe weed killer. If your in super hot weather and can’t irrigate, then I’d hold up a few weeks, your lawn may be dormant. In any case, anything you start now or this fall will show benefits now and put you ahead next spring.
Good to know you are in Jersey Same here thanks for showing this video. I’m a lawn care freak and they treat lawns there’s so many types of fertilizers I want to try. But our seasons here aren’t long enough for that I’ll have to try either the PGF complete or 16 - 0-8
Hi Izzy! PGF-C is still a favorite but I do work in other ferts to see how they perform in my turf. Only get so many apps a season so its hard to experiment with too many. Thanks for leaving a comment, hope your season goes well.
@@LawnJourneys Thank you appreciate the kind thoughts was also wondering what grass type you have? My front and side yards are primarily a fescue with a little bit of Perennial rye And maybe a smidge of KGB mixed in. My backyard same idea but starting to transfer all the bald spots over to straight perennial rye having a tough time coming in even though it is supposed to be fast to germinate I think these cold New Jersey nights is something it’s not liking
@@izzyd8613 I'm primarlily KBG but there is a mix of fescue and rye from previous overseeds. Yes its been extremely cool in NJ this spring. if you did a spring seed then its probably not all germinated yet. If you seeded last fall then its all just slow to get going this year. I haven't cut in 10 days and normally it would have grown a few inches easy in seven. Cutting tomorrow but my 10 day forecast only shows one day over 70 in that span. Hopefully May will be nice and you know the heat is going to come. Keep in touch.
@@LawnJourneys only had my lawn cut once this spring so far. I usually do my self can’t wait to get back to mowing and treating my lawn but post hernia surgery still have to wait on that
@@LawnJourneys not sure if I should order pgf insanely expensive $73 on Amazon for 10,000 square feet. R u Familiar with site one? Btw were I typically go I once tried ym 7-0-20 also great stuff
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Not sure about translation. This is a lawn fertilizer, I would not use it for ornamental plants or gardens.
I just used the link to order this product I had a local company treating my lawn and it was/is beautiful but they increased their price first year 90 per treatment last year 165 this year they wanted 190 per treatment. So... Wish me luck
Thats a huge increase. I hear fert has gone way up but seems like DIY lawn fert products have not increased as drastically. Let me know what you think. PFG is still one of my favorites and gets applied a few times each season. Don't overlook any needed weed prevention/treatment, fungus or insect apps that your lawn company was likely doing. Thanks for checking out the video.
@@LawnJourneys I must have done it wrong my lawn hasn't improved.
@@justhumblemeclarke7292 Did you apply at bag rate? How much area did you treat and how much fert did you use. Also, did it get watered in? How long has the product been down? Lots of questions I know.
@@LawnJourneys used the bag rate but I think I watched too many TH-cam videos. The guy suggested for proper coverage to reduce the amount by half and go across the lawn vertically then horizontally. I applied nearly 2 weeks ago. There was rain almost immediately after spreading. Actually sprinkling as I put the equipment in the garage. My neighbor stayed with the company and his lawn was treated a month ago and looks AMAZING! I also treated for insects a week ago haven't treated for fungus yet.
@@LawnJourneys thanks for the response!
You’re talking me into it. I still mis Carbon Earth Products. I have a bag of CX I’m planning to use in September. In the meantime I’m going to try PGF Complete . Thank you for the encouragement.
Mike really get a great color from it. Lawn looks healthy too. Try it some time. Yes I was also a Carbon Earth fan, too bad. That bag is gold! Sure you want to put it down 😀
@Allen Sadicario Agree it was a favorite among many. What’s your go to this year?
How often do you repeat fertilizing treatment on your lawn?
Roger: I go monthly in spring and fall, 5-6 weeks in summer. However it can get $, 5 weeks is probably more than adequate. I like to maintain the green color 😀
@@CommanderAdamaNJ Will 8 weeks be sufficient to maintain the lush green appearance according the instructions?
@@rogerhanyip6118 I like to go every 5-6 max. PGF does maintain color long, in my experience. 8 weeks is a bit of a stretch even though the bag says 6-8. It’s a slow release fert so throw it down and watch the color response. If it stays green past 6, then run it out to 8 and re-apply. It’s a great product.
I used the Scott’s 4 step program this year for my lawn. I‘lol
Oops - cut myself off there - anyway, l will be due for step 3 in July - can I just switch over to PGF instead ?
@@rosiesingleton6480 Nothing wrong with Scott’s! I think step 3 is fert with insect control. PGF-C has no insecticide. If you feel that you want to manage for insects you can get some insect control and apply as a separate app. Amazon had Triazicide on sale. amzn.to/3HnF1kQ
You can apply both on same day, separate spreader events or do the insect app the following week.
@@LawnJourneys is PGF safe for animals ?
@@rosiesingleton6480 Any fert should avoid pet contact until watered in and dried.
I'm new to law csre. Can I combine milorganite and pgf complete in one application ?
Milo is a 6-4-0
PGF is a 16-4-8
If you apply both at the bag rate you’d be applying 22% Nitrogen which could be a little heavy pushing growth. I personally would start the season with PGF and then follow with the Milo in 4-6 weeks. The organic sun the milo will probably have a better impact when the ground is warmer.
You can run this combo all year but I’d separate the apps for reasons noted.
I’ve tried this, they even added a jar of Vaseline with shipment.
It’s still my all time favorite. In fact I’ve used nothing but Andersons so far this season.
How long does that green up last for? Do you supplement with anything like ironite in between fert applications?
In my lawn I fertilize ever 5-6 weeks in season. I do supplement once a month with some bio-stims. However, I've used PFG Complete on a relatives turf and it stays green between applications. I really like the product.
What cultivars are those brother I’m in Long Island
Really a salad bowl, mostly KBG. My big overseed shave been with GCI Turf Blue Heat (Midnight, Everest and NuGlade).
@@LawnJourneys no tall fescue?
@@chipdip6577 Yes over the years it’s been over seeded with various KBG blends, some had tall fescue, hence my reference to a “salad bowl.” Last three over-seeds were Cool Blue blend only.
Wow! Now, that’s what I call good color!!! I watched another video you did on Yard Mastery’s Double Dark, though. How do you like this blend of PGF compared to the Double Dark? I’ve heard great things about both of them. The most notable difference I see between the two is the recommended intervals between applications. With the PGF, I see it’s recommended that you wait 6 to 8 weeks between apps. With the DD, it’s okay to apply every month. I like the idea of spoon feeding, for more consistent color in my lawn, but if the PGF gives good, consistent color all the way up until the following application, 6 to 8 weeks later, I could definitely live with that. What are your thoughts on that?
Hey Victor. I really like the color from PFG Complete and think it provides a longer lasting green. With that said I usually do an app every 5 weeks in season. Admittingly I only tried the YM DD once, will probably give it another shot this season coming, I Love trying different products. Lots of folks "spoon feed" at half the bag rate, applying every 2-3 weeks. So many ways to feed your turf. I don't necessarily do the same thing year to year because I like to see how may turf responds to various products and application rates. With that said, I do find myself coming back to PFG Compete often. Its not cheap but I feel it gives a deep green for a longer period, so maybe its cost effective in comparison. Sorry not a definitive answer for you.
Be well and thanks for checking out my vid.
@@LawnJourneys Thanks for your feedback on this. I was wondering what your thoughts were on that.
Thanks for your time!
Is it ok if I use this plus a crabgrass preventer granule fert to kick off the spring season?
@@PCConditioning Yes it’s fine. If your using a sole crabgrass preventer, product with Zero N, and the also apply PGF-C, product with N. I did just that this season, see two recent videos fro m this season. Other option is you start with a combo product, Scott’s with Halts crabgrass control, doing a single combined app to get things started. You could then run PGF-C as your second N app of the season.
Can I overseed after I spread the PGF product?
You can but you may do better with a starter fert, higher P and K. Best time to versed cool season lawns is in the fall. Much better success rate. Not saying it won’t work in spring but new grass can suffer in summer heat.
@@LawnJourneysso use this pfg complete in October? I overseeded mid September with starter fertilizer. So next week will be four weeks. So I was thinking of applying starter fertilizer again. Site One has a starter fertilizer with mestrone. I used lesco starter fertilizer on my first application. So please advise. Thanks
@@brodygoalie I would go with the PGF since it has 16% P (great for new seed rootinng) and will green up the rest of the lawn nicely. If you have a major weed issue now you could do a seperate app of Meso or tackle it in the spring (what I normally do). Good luck and enjoy.
I accidentally over applied with my Scotts drop spreader but it wasn't calibrated right. I'm worried about burn. Is this product forgiving?
16% N. Not sure how over you went but it’s a mix of fast and extended N so I’d think your probably ok. Keep it watered.
I really don’t like using a drop spreader with fert because you have to be more precise with pattern. Let me know how it turns out 😀
@@commanderlawn2886 thanks for replying. I almost feel like it was applied double. I'm going to change my watering schedule and water every day for a week see if that helps.
@@commanderlawn2886 it's been one day is there anything I can besides water it? I'm only asking because a big piece of property that has really good grass grass growth. I've been using organic products only and I decided to try pgf. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
How over did you go? Ie. How much do you think you applied per 1000ft2?
In any case is a mix of fast and slow release. Watering will help push the fast release through the soil. If you don’t see much yellowing or browning then your probably ok. Also I know some folks will refrain from cutting, longer blades will participate in more photosynthesis wherein growing grass should utilize more nutrients . Let me know how you make out.
I'll stick with Scott's Turf Builder. When grass is that long it's going to be green but let's see it at 1 1/2 inches hoc.
Nothing wrong with Scott’s. PGF is not cheap but it does push a dark green with my turf. Have a great turf season.
What's the SGN?
150 from the documentation I’ve found. Some may consider too large for greens. I’m not an authority on Fert sizes but it’s the finest I’ve found so far. Thanks for commenting.
@@LawnJourneys when my stand was healthy (terrible currently 🥴) 100 or lower would only make it's way through the dense canopy. I put similar size down back then and laid on top causing some burn spots where the pellets of N sat.
Super thick. What type of grass do you have, Bermuda?
@@LawnJourneys KBG, but it was nowhere near as dense as a green.
I’m trying not order my ferts for this year, questions on this App you did, did you put it down end of July or early August? Didn’t harm your glrass cause of high N?
It was early August and I did another app of PGF-C on October 7. No problems here my lawn was still green through November. 😀
@@LawnJourneys thanks you.
All of these products by Anderson are awesome. The issue is it is high in sulfur, which lowers the ph. Could have a negative effect if lime is not used a high levels.
There is a 16-0-8 blend. If your soils is not P deficient use that one.
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Rgs lol
Wonderful color.