ONLY 1 SMALL AREA TO FOOD PLOT...THIS IS WHAT ID PLANT
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- In this video I discuss what food plots are best when a food plotter has a small field to work with. Most food plotters don't have large, high quality fields to plant food plots in such as corn, soybeans, alfalfa, lab-lab, or cowpeas, these food plots require larger fields to hold off deer browse pressure and still produce a food plot. Often times our only option in planting a food plot is in a small field (usually 1/2 acre or less) this makes deciding what to plant crucial. We need a food plot with good tolerance to browse pressure, has quality nutritional values for the fall and winter, and also a food plot that doe and bucks will use during the deer hunting season. Cereal grains, winter wheat, oats, cereal rye, annual clovers, and brassicas are a great choice in these areas.
Awesome video thank you central Ohio here brassica doesn’t work for the deer in my area have had no success with it clover and chicory is my go too thanks for the help
Thanks, I believe when you find something that is working in your area, you stick with it! Good luck with the plots. Thanks for watching
Thank you for sharing! This nailed my many thoughts on what to plant in my many food plots. this recipe for the south of TN will be the way for all my upcoming food plots!! Thank you again for sharing Man!!
Dean! Glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful! Thanks for watching
Ive never had deer hit brassicas ive stopped plant them here in southwest TN
I’ve seen that myself, one thing I would say is make sure the soil has adequate soil nutrients, phosphorus, potassium, and around 100 LBS of nitrogen. I’ve never had them not eat brassicas hard, when the soil fertility was right. Just so we’re clear, I’m not saying your soil fertility and ph are not right, just sharing what I’ve seen on my farms. Thanks for watching!
@DIYfoodplotpro I'm gonna try it again this year, 1st time ever done a soil sample amd it don't look very good so I got some work to do, is it to late to try and raise my ph for a fall plot?
No sir, the best time to add lime and increase the soil ph is whenever you can get out there and do it. Good luck with the plots. Also I forgot to mention in the first reply, brassicas need to be rotated, so you plant a field of them this fall then go to a different food plot the following year, then the next year you could go Back to brassicas.
@@DIYfoodplotpro this will be the first time I've ever planted here
Great advice!! Plus this mix is Xtra economical too!! Additionally the clover might last an extra year with minimal maintenance!!! Thanks Professor Plot….enjoyed the video.
Thanks Clark, you should get a return on the crimson clover because it is a re seeding annual. Glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching
Do the same thing and deer love it. Have few smaller plots and works really well
Yes sir! It’s a solid proven mix of smaller plots! Thanks for watching
Thank you for the information. What do you after the season? Do you cut the brassicas and replant the next year, do you spray and start over, or just disc old season and start over with new seed. Thanks for your feedback.
Stephen, usually I just spray in the spring to plant my spring food plots! Thanks for watching
Southern Ohio property we have almost 6ac and a adjoining almost 9ac. Need high calcium lime then seed. Spring planting? Or fall planting? Did buck forage oats last September and no rain for 2wks after seeding. It did come in. Time and money very very limited. Great job!!! Thank you. My NY spot is mostly red oak and few whites. Odd years minimal food plots. Even years more plots. I’m going to try beans and clover then over seed in September with rye. I hope.
Scott the mixture that I mentioned in the video is designed for fall planting. Sounds like a good combination! Good luck with your plots!
Looking good Wes!! Mine is doing great! I have a cage so i can tell how it is growing and the deer are tearing it up!!! I was worried ever since i planted back in the fall cause it takes so dang long for it to get some growth!!!
That’s great news! It was a little worrisome especially with as dry as it was this fall, I’ll admit it had me thinking it wasn’t going to make it come this spring. My deer and turkey are absolutely loving it, I can tell they are keeping it grazed off but it’s getting wider and as temperatures increase it will begin to get some vertical growth! Glad yours is doing well, it truly is a special food plot that whitetails absolutely love! Thanks for watching
I'm on a leased property of 260 acres. We have never had a food plot before. The plan is to put in a 1 acre plot this year of eagle seed soybeans. I want to use a 3d electric fence around the plot. In your opinion, if I left the fence up for 2 - 2 1/2 months, will it survive the browse pressure?
That’s a hard question to answer without knowing how big the herd is there and what other food sources are around the property. If you successfully keep them out for 2 months you will get a bunch of growth on them as long as it’s raining and the fertility is there. Thanks for watching
I've planted clover and chicory in the same 1/3 maybe smaller for 10+ years . last year with no rain they kill it ( we have little if any snow here). Tried brassicas but nothing used them here , might take time for them to get use to them ? What would plant for a cover crop this spring after years of clover ? Before I try your mix ?
Deer can be picky on brassicas at times, make sure there is sufficient p and k in the soil, and don’t plant them to thick. If you have had really good luck with clover in your area…that’s exactly what I would stick with.
Really curiuos, maybe u tried or not , sugar beets. Compared to turnips, maybe u can do a vid if u have growed both. Thanks. Keep up good work.
I tried them years ago with 0 success. Very difficult to grow, expensive and the deer on our farm did not take to them. Just my experience.
Bob
I planted a blend with sugar beets in it this fall, but I’ve never planted them in the spring/summer like they were intended to be planted. If I can find a place to put them, I might give them a chance next year! That’s the issue, trying to find extra food plots for experimenting! Thanks for watching!
I planted last week some aberlasting clover and chicory right before all this good rain we have been having so now just waiting for it come up. Hopefully this will be a good solution. im here in Leesburg va .
With temperatures being unusually warm it won’t take long for you to start seeing young plants emerging! Good luck with the plot! Thanks for watching
@@DIYfoodplotpro your my inspiration sir , I feel like most people on TH-cam are pushing products and not honest advice. One person who I liked now I seem to dislike because he comes across very rude and uninterested in questions thinks he’s “the man of the woods” and it’s his way or no way. I own 45 acres and slowly trying to increase my habitat and food sources since I have so many deer . There’s habitat on the property but I want it to grow and become better.
@@anthonykontos7931 I’m glad you are enjoying the channel and finding the information helpful! We all fall into the trap of it’s my way or the highway, but in food plotting or anything else in life, you never get finished learning. Thanks for the kind words, I sure appreciate them! Have a good night!
@@DIYfoodplotpro you too sir i will keep you updated on what’s happening with what is coming. I also ordered some trees tonight as well 30 red cedar and 30 sycamore to start an area for bedding and Erosion control along my creek bed. Do you have any good recommendations on getting used farm equipment ie tiller or bush hog?
no sir, all the equipment has gotten extremely expensive. Just piece it together over time.
Yup!!
Thanks for watching Roy!
Everyone talks about brassicas but I have planted it several times and the deer will not touch it. The radishes and turnips just sit and rot. Then they start stinking.
Nathan, what part of the country are you in? I’ve found there are several factors that lead to deer eating them….but I’ve seen exactly what happened to you, plant them and they don’t touch em. High levels and p and k in the soil help, also not planting them on the same fields every year, planting them at the correct time, making sure to not over plant them and making sure to top dress them with nitrogen. Thanks for watching
I am in Southern most part of Indiana. I use the Brassica mix after having clover in some fields for several years to mix it up. I know I have planted it at least 4 different times in different fields with same results. @@DIYfoodplotpro
have you taken a soil test? I’m genuinely curious, not trying to be mean, just trying to see if I can help.
I appreciate the concern. Actually, yes I have the Ph is around 6.2. It does grow well. It may be becuse the deer might have other food available that is more desirable.
Wess have you ever tried deer vetch in a small plot, almost Impossible to over graze.
Caroll I have never tried vetch, I should try some to make a video on it and see how the deer like it in my area! Graze tolerance is an awesome quality to have in any food plots! Thanks for watching
Another awesome video as always Wes! What would you recommend for a smaller plot for spring and summer?? Alabama here.
In the summer, it’s all about protein for whitetails. Small plots are really really difficult to add protein to a whitetails diet because most high in protein food sources are either perennials (alfalfa and clovers) or are highly preferred annuals (soybeans, lab, lab, peas) that deer will graze to nothing if the plot is small. Sometimes I think doing nothing over the summer is just fine, not worrying about trying to feed herds on small plots. If however you want to try and provide some protein I’d plant roundup ready soybeans at a high rate, and keep them off the plot for 7-10 days after emergence. They won’t provide seed for the deer in the winter, but will provide quality nutrition all summer long. The key in this is making sure you keep them out for 7-10 days after the soybeans come up, until they get the first trifoliate. At that point deer can eat them to the ground and they will sprout right back. Thanks for watching!
@@DIYfoodplotpro okay I’m definitely going to plant forage soybeans
I have two questions as well…. This is a brand new Food Plot (1 acre/rock and hill country)
I was going to get my clover/alfalfa plot started in April
I was going to plant summer release (green cover) to help soil and feed deer through summer, then interseed that with Brassicas/winter Rye in the fall
And forage soybeans
All on 1 acre
Think this sounds alright?
I’m not a big fan of planting clovers in the spring….weed competition snd drought are 2 major concerns when planted in the spring, I much prefer the fall. Do you have a drill? I’m not sure I would go with the release program if I didn’t have all the equipment needed. It’s a program based on no till, building organic matter, and soil structure. If you don’t have a drill I think it’s going to be difficult to plant through the thick organic matter after the first season of using this system. Also weed and grass concerns pose a serious threat. Plant heavy population’s to ensure the plants shade out the competition
@@DIYfoodplotpro No sir, unfortunately all I have is a pull behind ATV broadcaster
That’s a good point…..Yea I’ll plant that comeback kid (clover/alfalfa) in the fall then
Since I have an ATV broadcaster
I’m trying to figure out how to plant the forage soybeans and the summer release (if I even get the summer release)
You can work the ground and plant the summer release and the soybeans….the problem comes in the fall when you try to plant the fall mix into it, it’s likely going to be so thick it’s going to be really difficult to do. Under perfect conditions such as a good 3 day rain event followed by cool temperatures you could broadcast it into the summer mix.
What about during the spring/summer?
I’m done with Lime, I’m going to till and spray
Just trying decide what to plant for Spring/Summer to establish a food source for the fall
Tanner, scroll down and see what I wrote to bama. He asked the same question and I wrote a long reply and it won’t let me copy and paste. In short I would plant soybeans, only depending on it for high quality forage and not for actual seed production. Thanks for watching
@@DIYfoodplotpro thank ya sir!!
Your welcome!
Hey Wes, I’ve got some questions for ya.
Question #1
Would a pre emergent like dual magnum work if sprayed over rye that has been cultipacked or roller crimped? I watched a video where someone did that and it appeared to work.
Question #2
If rye is planted earlier in the fall, will it mature earlier the following year?
Question #3
What are your thoughts on grain sorghum? Will we be seeing any sorghum videos in the future?
Question #4
What are your thoughts on BMR corn? I ordered some from Green Cover Seed because it was cheap and it’s the right maturity for where I live(central MN). In the video they had, they claimed cattle would eat it to the ground. I’m wondering if the deer will devour it before it ever amounts to anything.
I went the cheap route because I’m going to be using an old grain drill from 1947 and I’m not sure exactly how things are going to go.
Keep the food plot videos coming! I can’t get enough of them. Thanks Wes!
Bmr is typically grown for silage corn, where the entire plant is used for feeding cattle, not just the grain…they have higher digest-ability but typically don’t make as much grain as corn grown for grain production. I have never planted any bmr corn, but I will say I’m not trying to feed the deer with the actual plant, I’m trying to produce grain for them in the fall and winter months. I suspect you will do fine raising it, if they deer start eating it to heavily, put a scarecrow out there to
Help with browse pressure. I’ve had deer eat entire fields of my food plot corn before it ever made an ear…so be prepared! Grain sorghum is a drought resistant crop that is compared to corn but in my opinion does not have the pulling power that corn does. It’s cheaper to produce, and is less risky than corn. I have seen a good bit of it grown and I’ve never been overly impressed with how much whitetail use it, but I suspect that what other food sources are available in your area will have an impact on how much it gets hit. No it will mature the same time regardless of when you plant it….the only thing you have to watch out for is a plant getting to much growth going into winter, that could potentially kill the plant or make very little grain the following spring. What are you trying to plant behind the cereal rye that has been crimped or cultipacked? Thanks for watching
@@DIYfoodplotpro I’m going to do a mix of corn, soybeans, sunflowers and sorghum on two acres. I have the dual magnum so I figured I’d do a mix of plants it’s intended to be used on. Whatever grows, grows. I have another acre that I’m going to frost seed clover/chicory/alfalfa.
I have no clue if that old grain drill will be able to get the seeds deep enough when planting into the rye. This year is basically a trial run.
This will be my fourth attempt at putting in a food plot. Three attempts, three droughts. I don’t have much luck when it comes to this farming stuff. lol
rye can be really hard to plant int, especially when the soil is dry….a few pointers would be plant when the cereal rye is dry during mid day or early afternoon. During the early morning and late afternoon the drill will simply push the rye into the ground and not actually cut it like it’s suppose to. I wouldn’t want to plant corn in a mix where it’s competing….it doesn’t do really well when mixed together with multiple other plants, it’s much better planted alone. Grain drills are typically set on 7.5” row spacing, great for soybeans, sunflowers, and various other food plots, but typically corn needs more space and far less plants per acre. Corn is typically planted on 30” rows at around 24,000-28,000 seeds per acre. Good luck with your plots, hope and pray we all get good timing rains this year!
@@DIYfoodplotpro thanks for the tip on the rye.
Two of the three acres are by a road. I was sorta hoping the corn would make it more difficult to see into by people driving by. I was also thinking the soybeans and sunflowers will most likely get destroyed, leaving only the corn and sorghum.
My main problem is we only get about 25” of rain here. And I have sandy soil that’s low in organic matter. That’s why I want a layer of rye on top of the ground. And why I’m going with a blend and not straight corn or soybeans. Shading the ground/keeping weeds at bay and trying to improve the soil health.
But unless we start getting rain, I won’t be growing anything but sandburs. I’ve never seen it this dry.
I completely understand! Grain sorghum may fit well in your area with that amount of rainfall every year. I’d say you are 100% right about the sunflowers getting ate fairly quickly, deer love em! Good luck with the plot!
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Thanks for watching!
I have an acre that I just had cleared by a logging crew. It’s been standing oaks for over 50 years. This is a first time pot. What should I get into the soil for this fall deer season? I’m not too concerned with turkeys. I’m in West Virginia
You need to get a soil sample and get the soil ph and fertility right before attempting a plot. But when that’s done, the mixture I mentioned In the video is a good mix for small plots. For larger plots I’d be looking at a whole different group of food plots, with the above mixed in. Thanks for watching.
What would you plant in this small food plot during the spring and summer?
I’ve actually got a video talking exactly about that.
@DIYfoodplotpro Shortly after commenting this, that video popped up...great videos, thank you Wes. 👍
Wes I totally agree, although I don't have much experience with crimson clover. It makes sense to add it to the brassicas and I will try it this year. We usually plant around mid August. Would you share as to how many lbs do you plant of the crimson into the brassicas. thanks, Bob
25 pounds to the acre for Crimson Clover I prefer Kentucky over Dixie. OUTSIDE PRIDE, has a white crimson clover.
Thanks.
Bob, I put a full rate of 15LBS per acre of crimson clover into the brassicas….really worked well for me this year! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Wes.....
@@DIYfoodplotpro I usually frost seed Crimson in the spring, then cowpeas or soy beans, or deer vetch if it's a small plot, when the Crimson dies in may, then in August I till in the Soybeans or cowpeas and plant Red wheat and Brassica, or brassica and Arrowleaf clover. The Crimson Clover will come back almost every year on it's own, frost seeding a few pounds more only thickens it to help keeps the weeds down.