Star Trek Beyond Retrospective/Review - Star Trek Retrospective, Part 18

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  • @RowanJColeman
    @RowanJColeman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    HELP THE CHANNEL GROW: www.patreon.com/rowanjcoleman

    • @subraxas
      @subraxas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BLAKE'S SEVEN. . . . . YEAH-HEEEEEYYY!!!
      P.S. - I still don't see my name/nickname in the end credits. It's already been two and a half months. :-(

    • @sabasman
      @sabasman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    • @robertrinn8252
      @robertrinn8252 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Rowan j Coleman, I can't wait for your further retrospectives. This series had me hooked from the start. Defenitly looking forward to Stargate, Babylon 5 and Superman(Hopefully from the Fleischer cartoons to the current show). Keep up the spectacular work my good sir!

    • @RowanJColeman
      @RowanJColeman  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@subraxas Patreon told me you were no longer active. I'm sorry about that. I'll get that fixed.

    • @subraxas
      @subraxas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RowanJColeman
      Will my (nick)name be gilded in 'Spacedock Gold'? :-D :-D

  • @1978rharris
    @1978rharris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +423

    I am genuinely going to miss these well written and presented retrospectives. Thank you, Rowan, for all the hard work you’ve very obviously put into these.

    • @zenzombie72
      @zenzombie72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      At the very end he said he's doing loads more.

    • @CptArmarlio
      @CptArmarlio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This.

    • @1978rharris
      @1978rharris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@zenzombie72 thanks man. I did hear. I’m talking bout the trek ones.

    • @krixpop
      @krixpop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1978rharris
      He has 700 hours of ST movies/series , enough for a lifetime of reviews ....

    • @readhistory2023
      @readhistory2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're making ST 4 with the same crew so he has at least one more.

  • @sarahscott5305
    @sarahscott5305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    This being the last Retrospective was emotional enough, but the section to Leonard Nimoy really pushed me over the edge.
    🥺♥️🖖
    Uglycrying for Anton Yelchin.

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can stop being angry at Jeep for Anton. As well as for all the other victims they allowed to die or be hurt due to the fact they didn't want to pull multiton machines for the almighty dollar. Makes me so angry; so needless.
      Be at peace, victims😔✊

  • @gtc9966
    @gtc9966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    I haven’t always agreed with you Rowan, but this entire series has been amazing. Congratulations.

    • @LatinRemix
      @LatinRemix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I too don’t always agree with him, but do truly enjoy this series as well.

    • @jimyoung9262
      @jimyoung9262 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hear hear

  • @JohnNotstamos
    @JohnNotstamos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Over a year ago I was in a rutt. I had transferred to a new college, it was still online because of Covid restrictions, and the assignments were long and monotonous that it felt like I wasn't evolving in my knowledge of art and crafting new ideas. During this time, there was a day where I had 4 hours of nothing to do but homework and it was dead silent. So I searched up Oliver Harper Review Retrospective on TH-cam, as his videos had helped me kill time in High School by learning cool facts about films I love. But then I found your first reviews on Star Trek, you were only up to Part 5 and I marathoned what you had in two days. I would watch every new uploads on the series , and even some of your other stuff. I learned about how Star Trek impacted culture outside of an American lens and how Star Trek is more than just fighting aliens and slow pacing. And with this final video, of you speaking on the first Star Trek film I saw in theaters as a teen, it felt like I had gone full circle. Between late 2020-2022, I went through so many changes, and your videos evolved in a way I loved, that I feel like I am not the same person when I first saw your videos. My college life has been more enjoyable and many personal stuff in my life have improved. I can't say you were the key helper of my life, but you were one of the many building blocks. *So thank you Rowan J Coleman, God bless, God Speed, Live Long, and Prosper*

  • @michaellewis1545
    @michaellewis1545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    These retrospectives have been a lot of fun. As someone who has never been much in Star Trek I have learned a lot and now have a better understanding of Star Trek.

    • @AnnieB097
      @AnnieB097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a sister who is deeply into star trek and I never really got into it until the first Chris pine star trek movie. Having watched this series I can understand why she loves Star trek (even if I still don't understand the multiple coffee cups and various other bits of star trek stuff she has in her home 😂)

    • @margaretgladwell1371
      @margaretgladwell1371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This was the last Star Trek film I saw with my Mum. She had seen every film with me since the The Motion Potion Picture. She died last year and I will go and see the next one in memory of my Mum. The oldest Trekkie in town. Thank you Mum 🖖🏻

    • @ilposten
      @ilposten 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. Never really seen the old series or movies but have a much better impression of it now. Definetly going to see DS9.

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ilpostenyeh may anton yelchin abd lenord Nimoy both rst inpeace RIP to both of them anton never got th chsnce st becoming big stsrvlik he was destined to be just lik desth ledger

  • @Mew_Master
    @Mew_Master 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Even though I didn’t discover this series until towards the end of it’s run, I must say I’ve had a great time with it. For what it’s worth, I now know a lot more about Star Trek than I did before!

  • @TraumaQueen65
    @TraumaQueen65 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This has been THE BEST series I've ever seen about Star Trek. The amount of information contained is mindbogling and your research and presentation is simply outstanding. Thank you for all the work you have done to bring this to us. Can't wait to see your retrospective on Picard when it's ready

  • @jayofthedead7750
    @jayofthedead7750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I’m genuinely sad this series has come to an end but I’m eagerly awaiting your next. Thanks so much for these man, they’ve been a real joy.

  • @methos1999
    @methos1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fun fact - for years Leonard Nimoy's voice narrated over the opening sequence in the Mugar Omni Theater at the Boston Museum of Science. It's one of my fond childhood memories and it makes me sad they no longer use that opening sequence. But the fact that he was a Massachusetts native (as did I) is one of those little coincidences that I love.

  • @theunknownstuntman4010
    @theunknownstuntman4010 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw a drawing of Anton Yelchin after he passed depicting him meeting Leonard Nimoy and Defrost Kelly ( I think it was Kelly) in the after life and Nimoy was holding his hand in the Vulcan greeting saying "We didn't expect you so soon but now your here you'll want to meet Gene, come with us" its always stuck with me, beautifully drawn and very poignant

  • @steelpatriot3683
    @steelpatriot3683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Best of the Kelvin Timeline. Star Trek Beyond is just loads of fun, the cast all seem effortlessly in the zone by this point with fantastic chemistry, the film is GORGEOUS, and the score is great. Easily the one I go back to the most from the Kelvin films.

  • @Knightfall182
    @Knightfall182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And *this* is the point where the Star Trek franchise hit a wall. 😄 Rihanna's song couldn't have been more prophetic.

  • @DocWolph
    @DocWolph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Of all the TV and movie personalities I have known, I only shed tears for Leonard Nimoy. He did live long and he did prosper.

  • @adamdavis1737
    @adamdavis1737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Of these three Kelvin movies, this is the one that feels the most like the original series
    Just character interaction and dialogue alone made it feel like I was watching some Lost episode of TOS
    I think people who were overall turned off by the Kelvin reboots, will sadly under look this one even though it's one of the best trek flicks

    • @CrankyDoodleDandy
      @CrankyDoodleDandy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe I was comparing it too much to the originals. Plus I really hate anything JJA touches. It was like he was pissing on my childhood.

    • @adamdavis1737
      @adamdavis1737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CrankyDoodleDandy I can get that
      That's about how I felt about Star Wars 9 lol

    • @CrankyDoodleDandy
      @CrankyDoodleDandy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@adamdavis1737 I don’t think I can ever forgive JJA for the travesty of the sequels.
      Beyond definitely had good TOS vibes to it. The interaction between Spock and McCoy was a big plus.

    • @adamdavis1737
      @adamdavis1737 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CrankyDoodleDandy yeah that's what I liked best about it for sure

    • @andromidius
      @andromidius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Beyond is certainly the best of the three Kelvin movies so far - and had the worst advertising campaign by a huge margin. Into Darkness got me HYPED despite not liking the first movie because it had such a good trailer.

  • @joshiedtv6178
    @joshiedtv6178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As someone who has loved Trek from a very young age watching these videos and learning so much about the different movies and series I never knew has been so much fun and so informative! I found TNG retrospective and immediately went back and watched everything up until then and EAGERLY waited for each new one you released. Thank you for taking the time to make these. I can’t wait for you next series of videos!

  • @mr.notseen2409
    @mr.notseen2409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Every time he makes one of these I am reminded that our heroes are people and this can happen almost anywhere.

  • @daviddyster4145
    @daviddyster4145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I glad i was abele to see the retrospective of Star Trek, an eight-teen video journey and it was amazing. Nice work, Rowan.

  • @estherclawson6876
    @estherclawson6876 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Star Trek Beyond is the only new Star Trek movie I've wanted to watch more than once.

  • @patrickdhamilton
    @patrickdhamilton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Out of the Kelvin timeline films, Beyond seems the most ‘Trekkie’ of the films. In spite of there being another doomsday weapon mcguffin, that deconstruction of what the Federation means just struck me as the kind of story that Star Trek is supposed to tell.
    Thank you for these detailed and thoughtful retrospectives. I hope it won’t be long before we can get more Star Trek analysis.

  • @ScaleHangar182
    @ScaleHangar182 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    took me 3 days, but man, that's was a great ride to complete watching this retrospective. Congratulations for the grat work you have put on this!

  • @jmfowler9062
    @jmfowler9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also forgot that this was going to be your last retrospective on trek.
    It is indeed what brought me to your channel and kept me around. I hope that my interests align with yours in a way that keeps me active on your channel. I will be checking out your gaming channel in the mean time and i appreciate the work and passion youve given to this series. As a trek fan it means the world.

  • @mahermagdy4604
    @mahermagdy4604 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's not over yet I will be waiting for the on going shows retrospectives with passion .

  • @ImNotHereEither
    @ImNotHereEither ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best series I’ve watched about Star Trek. I’m 53 and have lived my life not being able to remember a time when I wasn’t avidly watching it or a huge fan of the show. It’s just a part of who I am. My earliest memories being connected to reruns of the original series in the 70’s, I’ve since watched every episode of every ST show and every movie. Multiple times.
    This series was a brilliant journey through those experiences and one which made me revisit episodes, re watch films and reconsider my opinions about what Star Trek is, how I’ve changed, and how my views on more current iterations can change also.
    My biggest hope right now is Strange New worlds which I think, for me, is the best modern interpretation of what makes the show so special, and where I sympathise and possibly agree with some detractors and hard core fans I’ve realised something really reassuring. Even though we may disagree on the direction or the tone or the storytelling styles and arcs of the new offerings in the ST universe, I’ve realised that what you love is only a few clicks away and will always be there for you to revisit and enjoy. Things change, we get older, but if nothing else I think the spirit of what ST means culturally in its philosophy and wider hopes for humanity, is still there, and still exists to inspire generations of more children that will look at the stars and wonder, what is out there, and how can we get to see it.
    Every new edition will guide people to something you cherish and to the same things that inspired us to love this show so much. As a sci fi series it continues to incorporate new physics, new science, new philosophical ideas and an arena to explore big concepts and individual human stories. I think ST is a mirror to ourselves and reflects over the years the changing creative technologies that can now do justice to the grander visions visually, but at its heart this show has always worked best when keeping to its sci fi roots, more contemplative tone and where story and character are what drive our emotional investment.
    It’s like capturing magic in a bottle, just try and create a successful tv franchise that runs for over 40 years and see how easy it is. Nothing lasts forever either and everything has it’s time. I hope the franchise continues to be successful but I must admit I have struggled recently to be as engaged in the newer series, but maybe it’s because it’s not meant for me. I’m old. I’m nostalgic. I’m tainted. I’ve had my era. Long may it continue so you have yours.
    Thank you again, for the time you put in. It’s a must watch for every hardcore fan. 10/10.

  • @kathrynmcmullen2344
    @kathrynmcmullen2344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Took a friend to see this who had not watched TOS when it first aired because it had been took too scary at the time (it had been scary for me too, but didn't stop the pre-schooler I was from coming back for more), and she really enjoyed it. One that non-Trekkies should watch.

  • @EvanG529
    @EvanG529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think we were all expecting the film to be lackluster when we found out it had the F&F director (and because of poor marketing), but I think it showed how Lin was a true Trekkie and made something great out of it.

  • @aforty1
    @aforty1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm loving this series of retrospectives! I hope you keep them going for whatever Star Trek has coming up next (and has currently going on).

  • @TheHopperUK
    @TheHopperUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought I was having a normal morning and then that newspaper came up with the news of Nimoy's death and I burst into tears. I don't think I even cried this much when it happened, what in the world. Thank you, though. Probably tears that needed crying.

  • @LinkTijger
    @LinkTijger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make part 19 !
    I'm waiting for so long!

  • @cathyprekel4639
    @cathyprekel4639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with comments below. This film has been dumped on, but it's my favorite. It was fun, didn't take itself too seriously, and the tribute Leonard Nimoy and dedication to Anton Yelchin made me cry. Watching this makes me cry. I have been watching ST since it was a series. Watching the development of the CGI was amazing. I love it, 55 years in IT, I've seen a lot of amazing progress. Think I'll watch it again tonight.

  • @musicalcolin
    @musicalcolin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've loved the entire retrospective and it's inspired me and my brother to go back and rewatch tons of old star trek. It usually takes us more than double the running time to watch each video because we pause so frequently to discuss what you say. You've led to endless fun discussions. Just great job across the board. Thank you.
    And we're really looking forward to Babylon 5!

  • @GuineaPigEveryday
    @GuineaPigEveryday ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such a wonderful film that gets no love, its just incredible how the fanbase has decided to ignore this movie. I mean when everyone complained about Into Darkness, this was the right step back to the spirit of Trek, it felt in line with the older movies, and with old Trek in general. The ideas were fun, the actors were joyful, it was humorous and tongue-in-cheek. It was visually fantastic. I loved this movie as a kid before I watched any of the Trek series, and its kinda sad we might not get to see another continuation for years over goddamn budgeting conflicts.

  • @swazzlebock
    @swazzlebock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This has been an exceptional series of videos, a series which I will very much be going back to you - and which I have recommended to a lot of people. They've been so good, I almost wish Discovery, Picard and SNW were already over, just so I can sit back and enjoy THEIR retrospectives. Sterling work, Rowan. Genuinely looking forward to seeing what you have to say about Battlestar Galactica and Blake's 7.

  • @literalsarcasm1830
    @literalsarcasm1830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite description of Beyond comes from CinemaWins. Lee called it a high budget, feature length, original series away mission episode.

  • @techniqueswithtodd
    @techniqueswithtodd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best TREK series I've yet seen on youtube bar none. Thanks so much for creating them. Well done.

  • @robertnokes2046
    @robertnokes2046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for these. Well done.

  • @jrod112278
    @jrod112278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Probably the most underrated Star Trek film IMO. I really enjoyed this one and of the three Kelvin timeline films, this one felt closest to the spirit of the original series.
    Of all your reviews, this one was the most emotional. Well done.

    • @tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388
      @tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beyond is mediocre and a MCU knock off. Into Darkness is much better. Jaylah is cool though.

  • @williamwalkup988
    @williamwalkup988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved these retrospectives. Can't wait for your take on the new Star Trek TV series. Thank you.

  • @brandonmurphy301
    @brandonmurphy301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I started watching these as a companion to my rewatch of all available Trek, but with the shows you have teased for upcoming retrospectives, you have gained a subscriber this day. I humbly beg for Stargate as soon as humanly possible. Especially Atlantis.

  • @celticmarc
    @celticmarc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wellllll.....I'm thanking YOU for making that series...massively enjoyed !! And also, after what you announced what's next, well, whoah.....looking forward to ALL documentaries...

  • @andrewm3210
    @andrewm3210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a bittersweet episode to watch, and I will miss this series a lot. It has consistently presented balanced perspectives and high quality content to a level that is truly rare. I can't wait to see what other retrospectives that you do, and am genuinely excited for a Battlestar Galactica retrospective which I hope is near the top of the list. Best of luck with your future endeavours Rowan and can't wait to see what you come up with next!

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so glad to hear you’ve got a long-term plan for retrospectives, that kind of stability can really help so you’re not searching for what to do next. Branching-out with the format is a great idea too, though of course I can see you’re not branching out TOO far to start. While I know this isn’t always compatible with playing the algorithm numbers, going beyond sci-fi for other stories you’re familiar with which have similar political depth, themes, and twisty production histories would certainly be welcome too! But given the length of your list that’s not an immediate concern :)
    Anyway, as to the rest of the retrospective, I’m kind of glad that first writing team left. What we got was better.
    Yorktown really is beautiful as a symbol of Federation prosperity, I always love the skyscraper apartments along the huge canal which itself provides a window into one of the dock’s corridors! Plus it’s also a symbol of the Federation’s egalitarianism - the ENTIRE station is built like that, in something of an ironic twist to the shooting location given how starkly different living conditions get just a few miles out from the towers in Dubai. Compared to stations in The Expanse, where they definitely have small regions that look just as pretty and cosmopolitan; they also have extremely utilitarian docks and barely-habitable slums. The Federation doesn’t build like that. The space traffic controllers get the same luxury skyscraper apartments, with a great view of space and the rest of that station, as Admiral Avasarala.
    TBH I often felt Krall’s prosthetics and fictional language got in the way of Elba’s acting chops… his Captain’s Log scenes and his scenes on the Yorktown are always the most effective for me, so I wish he’d been given more like that. But nevertheless you can tell he acted very hard with what he was given.
    The sets throwing everyone around with the inertial dampers going offline was one of my favourite sequences of the entire film, and I had wondered how they’d done it - obviously considered that they gimballed the sets but had also wondered if it was CGI for cost-cutting. But some of the movements just looked too subtly realistically awkward, like they’d be made more photogenic if they were CGI, like the characters “walking in place” on the corners of sets before continuing what they were doing on the floor/wall/ceiling. So I had suspected it was practical - thanks for the confirmation!
    I’ve come to like the Franklin a lot more too, than on my first viewing. At first I kept being distracted by how different it looked from the NX-class, but comparing against the two support classes we saw in Enterprise (the Intrepid-type and that other one with a semicircular rather than pointy hull), and the NX-Alpha test ship, then the Franklin clearly fits right in between those two designs. And it totally makes sense to have other smaller ships too, considering they said it took something like 10 or 15 years to build the NX-01 - not to mention already implied by the existence of those other ships despite the NX-01 keel being laid down as soon as NX-Delta hit warp 3.
    Can’t say I necessarily feel some of the themes that Pegg talked about, but I do really enjoy all the character work. And the way it’s shot IMO adds a lot more realism to the set design than JJ’s “grittiness”. Like the whisky drinking scene, getting to see the lights and reflections through the window for so long while they chatted about Kirk’s life, as if having warped space just beyond those windows was nothing special, made it feel a lot more concrete to me than JJ’s “wow look!!” style of directing my attention.

  • @matthewboggs9382
    @matthewboggs9382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I know that this isn’t a “classic style” Trek movie. Much more action oriented. But I must admit I love this movie. It’s a lot of fun and exciting. I really love that the rock song from the first film reappears. “Classical” music.

    • @richardb6260
      @richardb6260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's actually the most like the original series out of the three. They're out in space and the story isn't Earth centric, they nailed the Spock/McCoy relationship, and it was the first time I accepted Pegg as Scotty.

    • @CoreIreland
      @CoreIreland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually the "rock song" and it's promotion is part of what killed the movie and the movie franchise. It may have been fun but selling it to the audience was a mess.

    • @JcBravo8
      @JcBravo8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CoreIreland Most people I know liked the rock scene in the movie. But it was that first trailer with the rock song that killed a lot of enthusiasm to see it. I wrote Beyond off after seeing the 1st trailer.

  • @niallmartin9063
    @niallmartin9063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have just binge watched your entire Star Trek retrospective. It was like meeting old friends and loved ones. I'd forgotten how much I loved and missed the old Star Trek and TNG, even the Kelvin timelime is great fun. Please could you have a look at Space 1999 or Gerry Anderson in general, being of a certain age these shows were just magic to me. In 1978 when I was 12, I used to visit my Granny every Friday and she'd have my dinner ready in time for 5pm when I watched Star Trek in black and white and it just blew my mind.

  • @jave2274
    @jave2274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    U.F.O. is a great series to watch! My father introduced me to it when i was ten.

  • @MRbossman1982
    @MRbossman1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Gives me upbeat feeling in this dark times.

  • @g4viscon
    @g4viscon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've enjoyed all 18 of your retrospective videos. I love your work. Although sad that you are at the end of the Star Trek series but I'm excited for your upcoming Babylon 5 retrospective video.

  • @ByroniusHuge
    @ByroniusHuge ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a oong time Star Trek fan, I've absolutely loved this series and I can't wait to check out your other work!

  • @robsolf
    @robsolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the vid! Beyond was pretty entertaining and solid, IMO. That is much more impressive given the production troubles you brought to light in this vid.

  • @jimjam51075
    @jimjam51075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This movie and the one before it are the reasons they can't get a 4th one made, no matter how hard Bad Robot wants to pretend/hype it into existence once a year.

  • @MyTwoCentsofNonsense
    @MyTwoCentsofNonsense 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m not crying at the Leonard Nimoy tribute, you’re crying at the Leonard Nimoy tribute!

    • @sebastianhopkins7322
      @sebastianhopkins7322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ugly Tears and Proud of them. Leonard was the Heart of Trek! :-(

  • @Clone42
    @Clone42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nicholas Meyer reiterated in his director's commentary for Star Trek 6, "Art thrives on restrictions." He shrouded sets in shadow and used creative lighting to hide that he had no budget to dress them. Jump to Star Trek Beyond: "It's 50 years of Trek, so we made 50 different new aliens." Did this improve the film? No wonder hollywood rarely turns a profit.

    • @BronzeAgeBryon
      @BronzeAgeBryon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well said. TMP made similar mistakes. The robe of the Betelgeusian glimpsed from a far when Kirk lands at Starfleet Command was said to cost 1 Million dollars. And the alien designs we see for the background characters at Yorktown in Beyond most likely added unnecessary cost to the budget.

    • @adamb503
      @adamb503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BronzeAgeBryon I have to agree. That many different aliens would have looked natural in a space port in Tattooine. Trek isn't Star Wars though. As for why the third movie underperformed, new trek has resulted in a divided fan base. That some "diehard" fans are staying home shouldn't come as a surprise.

    • @Clone42
      @Clone42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@adamb503 The new properties don't resemble Star Trek, to me. They're dressed up like Star Trek, but they're not of the same genre. Star Trek explored a similar space to Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits. It was about deep ideas and sometimes twisting your mind into a temporal pretzel. The script writers clearly read a lot of science fiction. The core identity of the show was remarkably consistent over five different series (not all great) but it stopped being about ideas almost entirely. Now it's about feelings, sitting around kvetching about romantic uneasiness, and round-house kicking stunt actors over railings then shouting, "Booya! Science shit yeah!" Nothing like sitting down for some cerebral Star Trek and getting a two for one instead: "Honey. I want to talk about our relationship..." Immediately followed by a kick to the balls. "BOOYA!"

    • @adamb503
      @adamb503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Clone42 Also, how are you a Star Trek fan if your impulse in coming up with a script is to be "deconstructive"?

  • @Pandenhir
    @Pandenhir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another great review! And big thanks for doing another Leonard Nimoy shoutout. Got goosebumbs during that!

  • @carlosbfly
    @carlosbfly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So sad this is the last one. I’ve watched all these Trek retrospectives over and over, they really are brilliant and it’s made my day as soon as a new one was published.

  • @jtrizzle2000
    @jtrizzle2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm super excited to see your Babylon 5 retrospectives. I initially dismissed the show as a poor man's DS9, but a few years ago I gave it a chance and it's now one of my favorite sci-fi franchises. I've probably watched the series 4-5 times already, in between TNG and Voyager rewatches.

    • @arongamman9360
      @arongamman9360 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Careful of us OG B5 fans. Talk like that's gonna piss some people off. ;) I'm kidding sort of.

  • @NightMedicine
    @NightMedicine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m a new trek fan and have almost finished all your videos. They are fantastic so I thank you for enhancing my viewing experience. 🖖🏼

  • @gingergrant1057
    @gingergrant1057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know what they say, “It's been a long road, To get from there to here.”

  • @stormclawponyrises1195
    @stormclawponyrises1195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is one of my favourite movies of all time, and I enjoy it immensely every rewatch. The dialogue is fantastic. (And I had my first kiss with my partner after watching it, so it’s got that going for it too, I’m definitely biased)

  • @dentoncrimescene
    @dentoncrimescene 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has been one of my favourite series on you tube ever!

  • @MarkDrummond206
    @MarkDrummond206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have done a fantastic job here and should be so very, very proud of your work. It has given me a significantly better framework for consuming media. Thank you so much!

  • @usa4freedom1
    @usa4freedom1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just stumbled into this series and I completely binged them. What a great series. Thank you so much for this gift. 🌸🌸🌸

  • @GeeVanderplas
    @GeeVanderplas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is definitely the one where they nail the original characters and the overall vibe of the original show. I do agree that Idris Elba's Krall could have been utilized better, given a bit more screen time and more depth especially at the end. I always feel the ending is a bit of a missed opportunity, where he sees his own, now human reflection, but remains a stereotypical villain. That moment could've been much stronger (whether he ultimately chooses to stay his course or not) with a bit more character development to flesh out his struggles. But overall a great Trek movie, which hopefully will finally get a follow up.

  • @seanodeli7031
    @seanodeli7031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Ken Burns of Star Trek
    Well done sir I look forward to your next series whatever it may be

  • @Connection500
    @Connection500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work Rowan. It is interesting and perhaps not surprising that you feel such warmth towards this trilogy of movies - given that they were your cinematic introduction to Star Trek. For that same reason, I feel great warmth toward VI and Generations - when I would have been the age you were when you went to the cinema to see these. For me, The Undiscovered Country is the go-to Star Trek movie and it never lets me down - just as Star Trek Beyond has become for you.

  • @DeaPeaJay
    @DeaPeaJay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m excited to see your Stargate retrospective. That show was GOLD

  • @barrydunham896
    @barrydunham896 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These retrospectives have been fantastic. I found them. Few years ago and was very disappointed when i got caught up midway through the next gen movies. I've since watched them all again. Great work

  • @someguy7294
    @someguy7294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro i wasnt expecting to watch this and cry like this.

  • @Delekhan
    @Delekhan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sad to see the last one but looking forward to your next series. Keep up the good work!

  • @ember_angeldust
    @ember_angeldust 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video as usual! I definitely need to see this movie some time!
    Also, is that a Unas from SG-1 at 10:12 ?!

  • @talideon
    @talideon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've a soft spot for Beyond. It's definitely one of the best of the movies in any timeline, and there's some real care put into it that the two previous Kelvin timeline movies lacked because people who cared were writing it and directing it. It has genuine heart. It's just a shame that it didn't do as well as it deserved to.

  • @scouseandy07
    @scouseandy07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is my favourite Star Trek film. I was gutted when it didn’t do so well at the box office. It’s what Star Trek is all about. Another great episode Rowan.

    • @adamb503
      @adamb503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You need to watch more Trek then...

    • @johnwells5414
      @johnwells5414 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember 2016 being a rough summer for the box office. Suicide Squad, Jason Bourne. They were very hyped and people were excited but they just didn’t deliver

  • @seanm.9832
    @seanm.9832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You really put this retrospect to heart its Oscar earth well done truly enjoyed

  • @justerick1364
    @justerick1364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a marvelous retrospective. I learned a lot of little factoids and had a fun ride through the star trek universe beginning to end. well done and thank you.

  • @DJL78
    @DJL78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love to see you do Retrospective Series on Space 1999. Your hard work is much appreciated. 🍸 to you!

  • @KayOSweaver
    @KayOSweaver 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this series, it's been a real pleasure to follow along and learn more about one of my favorite franchises.
    As for Beyond, it's easily the best of the Kelvin films. I still find it a bit too frenetic and not quite as smart as other Trek, but it's head and shoulders above the other two.
    Super excited about future retrospectives, especially Babylon 5 and Red Dwarf. Blake's 7 is pretty dated at this point, but for the era it was quite subversive. I hope you enjoy it.

  • @johnchedsey1306
    @johnchedsey1306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent job with all these retrospectives! Some of the best anyone has made about Star Trek!
    I think Beyond is possibly the most fun Star Trek movie of them all. It's definitely an action flick, but they pull it off well. I was somewhat iffy on the Kelvin timeline movies, but this won me over.
    I'm just thrilled to be living in a time where we are getting so many great shows. Other than Discovery's somewhat slow start, I think the new shows have been excellent and have me hooked. Prodigy in particular surprised me with how it really is for ages 5-105. And this new season of Picard looks like it's going to be absolute gangbusters.

    • @adamb503
      @adamb503 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need to watch more Trek...

  • @MrShaunhunter
    @MrShaunhunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another fantastic video. Sad it’s come to an end for now but very thankful for these retrospectives.

  • @juniordax9777
    @juniordax9777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gotta say it is bittersweet to get to the final part of this retrospective.
    It has been a joy to watch such a well written, researched and edited show. I am pleased to hear that you are going to keep doing these for other franchises, I look forward to seeing them. Especially Babylon 5 which may well be my favourite science fiction series alongside Trek.
    From one Scotsmen to another I bid you, Peace and long life. Live long and prosper 🖖

  • @alanw083
    @alanw083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Red Dwarf retrospective sounds incredible! The rest do too of course but that one caught my eye.

  • @theknave4415
    @theknave4415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This retrospective series is so good, it's almost heartbreaking to watch the last episode.
    Great job. Perfection.
    This is what TH-cam is supposed to be. ;)

  • @NightAtTheOpera3
    @NightAtTheOpera3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think I will ever, EVER get over Anton's passing. I was in Walmart when I got a frantic text message from my best friend about it and I was so stunned, I literally dropped what I was holding in my other hand. Every time I'm reminded that he's gone, it's like hearing it for the first time all over again.

  • @Thechezbailey
    @Thechezbailey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This movie is an underrated gem.

  • @andyboie3333
    @andyboie3333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These Retrospectives have been an amazing journey to take with you. Thank you so much for creating them and for giving us great content to continue to look forward to!

  • @WhoIsCalli
    @WhoIsCalli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have really enjoyed this series of retrospectives. Watched it through twice now. Stunning work 👍👍

  • @thezone6960
    @thezone6960 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Two things about this movie. One, I hosted the premiere/preview here in Houston a week before it's release. It's my little piece of being a part of Star Trek history. It was a huge honor. Secondly, I have the misfortune of being the one who inadvertently told Walter Koenig about Anton Yelchin's passing. He was here in Houston for a comic convention and while me and my wife were at his panel earlier that day we read that Anton had passed away. Later that evening before he left the convention I was one of the last few guests who got to meet him. I had assumed that at this point he had definitely found out about it but when I told him how sorry I was and gave him my condolences on the news about Anton he asked me what news. And without thinking I just blurted out about him passing away earlier today. His handler for the event look at me like you stupid mother fucker. Apparently they didn't want to tell him while he was there and had asked other people not to mention anything because they wanted him to enjoy his time. But by the time I got to his line there was no one there so no one stopped me and told me. To this day it kills me when I remember the look on his face. He immediately realized what had happened and saw how upset I was at what I had done and as a sure sign of how awesome he is He hugged me and told me that it was okay. We talked for another 20 minutes before they finally made us stop.

    • @gomahklawm4446
      @gomahklawm4446 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "We talked for another 20 minutes before they finally made us stop"
      EXACTLY what os wrong with Hollywood today. Erasing humans and only concerned about being safe.....FOR PROFIT.

  • @jinjdivine4998
    @jinjdivine4998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for all the time you spent making these for us. I enjoyed every single episode so much. As a lifelong fan, I learned tons of new things I didn't know and was shocked I didn't. Great work thank you again for this gift.

  • @xtxond
    @xtxond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd love to see a full season review from you on the new shows

  • @Tirak117
    @Tirak117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lower Decks would be so much better if Mariner weren't so set on ruining everyone else's lives so she can be happy. Sabotaging Boimler's career by going to the XO to say he's not ready for important assignments so he doesn't move beyond her, knowing that the only reason she'd be listened to is her mothers influence as captain, was disgusting and I'm hoping against hope Mariner eats a huge piece of humble pie and grows. (Also being discount Dax doesn'tmake you cool when you are at most 22 yet have all the same achievements of a multi century old trill.) With that said, the rest of the cast is delightful, the show really has some heart and I was surprised how much I ended up enjoying it despite the fact that I am not a fan of its humor.

  • @adamsagehorn3520
    @adamsagehorn3520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, wait, wait, wait. We now need a Star Trek Retrospective on the Star Trek Retrospective series. I'd watch it.

  • @ja8ames
    @ja8ames 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm very glad to have recently discovered this channel. Here's looking forward to another movie to review, someday. For me, Beyond is a weird case in that while it's a lovely film and I respect it greatly, there's something about the plot and iconography that I find unexciting. It's full of great character moments, but the settings, villains, even all the aliens they designed, somehow it all just fails to ignite in a truly adventurous or awe-inspiring way for me.

  • @DjRenect
    @DjRenect 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So cool! Can’t wait for the Stargate retrospectives!!!

  • @zanemagers7465
    @zanemagers7465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Utterly fantastic. One huge neverending documentary, thank you 😁

  • @tipulsar85
    @tipulsar85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This one I had a ball watching in theaters, but the true test was how deceptively smart it is on repeat watching.

  • @lukey666lukey
    @lukey666lukey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that was one hell of a ride. just binged all the startrek retrospectives over the last couple of weeks. such amazing work. Thank you.

  • @kevinedie4119
    @kevinedie4119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My only problem with this movie is a small one but it does bother me. It never does explain what's happened differently to bring about this story. It would only take a single line (like they did the previous movie saying that because of the destruction of Vulcan they went into deep space and found Khan) it's actually a great concept for a book telling the story of the movie in the prime universe but because of something different the Enterprise isn't destroyed. A good movie other than that small thing though

  • @faithkerns1626
    @faithkerns1626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP short treks, forever in our hearts.

  • @azure4527
    @azure4527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The behind the scenes footage of Anton is breaking my heart.

  • @geronimovallejos7232
    @geronimovallejos7232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rowan this was quite the journey, loved every single one of these videos, you are amazing. Keep it up!!!

  • @jojomag9822
    @jojomag9822 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU! For Making this series. Incredibly dense & detailed, & truly entertaining.

  • @TheTransitmtl
    @TheTransitmtl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the last year I've been anticipating your reviews.