I'm agree with you! Can't wait any-more for comparison :D I'm close to cancel flywoo order and buy this one! Seems to be better on every aspect, except maybe the AIO board. But flywoo has no current sensor is'nt it? But geprc seems to no have blackbox memory. GPS fix is better than flywoo? VTX antenna size is about the same ? Thanks in advance!
Hi Gal. I would like to fly that little one, but right now there are so many to choose from its hard to tell witch one to purchase. I think it's going to be good for going up a nice cliff close by, but it could be a blast to explore parks and areas that you couldn't do before. Thanks again for the video and information. Have a great week .
Looks really good. Have the flywoo, little skeptical of aio board, not having good luck on my Phantom HD with them. Love gep, would love this if I were confident with aio board.
Yes there are cons and pros for using an AIO boards. The current draw is pretty low though and I am pretty sure that for this specific setup it will work well though.
Excellent review! I don't understand why all the other reviewers do not discuss battery time on a long-range quad LOL. All you hear is "yeah it will do 30min on the GEPRC Lion 3000mah battery". Who cares, what can it do on other batteries and you answered that, thank you!
I am not sure if a mount is available. I am using the Flywoo mount and a piece of double sided tape as the back two holes are not compatible (the ones on the front are ok). You should be able to fit a lion pack with the Naked GoPro camera but it will be pretty tight and you should avoid crashing your drone ;-)
thanks for the review. My CrocBaby4" with Vista HD pnp also has a "jittery" effect in the video. Without resorting to post (Warp Stablizer at about 15% removes it, but I hate the resulting crop), is this something that can be tuned out? Your video is just about exactly what I get using an 850mAh battery. What do you think?
My pleasure. Fine tuning should improve it's flight performance and stability. I suggest checking out this video by TMac th-cam.com/video/r7I6pLA0dx4/w-d-xo.html
Hi, I have bought Analogue Version and unfortunately i have reset and all the pre configuration is lost, now the modes are gone, i'm unable to arm, also my video is fully distorted, can you help me setup everything to default
I purchased the baby crocodile Caddx vista version, DJI goggles, and DJI transmitter I updated them all ,goggles bound with quad excellent video transmission the caddx vista baby croc bound with DJI transmitter but the transmitter will not pick up on betaflight or will not arm I did calibrate the quad when I first got on betaflight where should I start diagnosing I'm lost ,any help would be greatly appreciated thanks "Flying Squirrel"
Hi Gal, thanks for the great review and for explaining things so clearly.... I just received my Baby Croc and when flashing the FC I seemed to have lost the soft serial port for the GPS. I restored previous settings and tried using your CLI dump but I still don't seem to be able to get it back. Can you pls explain to me in simple terms what I need to do in BetaFlight to get it back pls?...
Given that the CB4K is sold as a lightweight long range quad I am yet to see a video of this quad being pushed to its limits in terms of range. Just because it can fly for 28+ mins with a VTC6 pack doesn't necessarily mean it has great range. Crossfire is proven tech but just how good is the Vtx and Antenna etc that comes supplied with this quad. I'd love to see this test, and Gal I feel that you are the man to do it.
Thanks Rob. So far the farthest I've gone with this drone is 5KM (using an analog VTX). You can check it here: th-cam.com/video/ZWpU1XBmO1A/w-d-xo.html
@@KremerFPV I have already watched that video and whilst it's really impressive, and I must add that I always love your content it was not quite spec'd straight out of the box was it? The Rush Solo VTX was probably blasting out 1600mw. It would be good to see the same test but with stock antennas and stock 600mw VTX.
@@RobsClips1980 Thanks Rob. With the proper equipment you can definitely go very far even on 25mw. Maybe this video is what you're looking for: th-cam.com/video/K6fZd6fqk84/w-d-xo.html
Hi Gal! I m using gep rc croc baby with caddx vista and frsky r9mm. I had to connect r9mm with f.port to uart 1 as it does not work on uart 2 tx pad..i dont why but others has the same experince. So my dji/caddx vista unit are on uart 2 tx2 rx2 and f.port with full telemetry also work flawlesly on uart T1 pad. But we had midflight rebooting issue with this setup..its a random reboot after some minutes flight. Have you any suggestion what need to change to eleminate the FC midflight reboot which causes crashes. We also remap softserial on Rx 1 for the gps to free up the current sensor where the gps tx leg was solderd by factory. Now everything is working but the FC randomly reboots. Thanks for any advice.
@@KremerFPV thanks for quick reply..i will check the CPU load again, we ve checked bacause we put the gps tx leg to RX1 uart with sofserial by remapping that pad
Hi Gal. Love your videos 😃 I’ve bought this quad with vista and crossfire but I cannot get crossfire to bind with my Radiomaster. What I’m a doing wrong? I just stays in “binding” mode without doing anything. I hope you can help me out. Thanks in advance. 🙏
@@KremerFPV Yes. I plugged in the tbs crossfire micro at my Radiomaster and I bought the quad which already should have a crossfire receiver installed. 🤔
@@joeynexus4525 First turn on your Radio controller. Make sure that the Crossfire TX is turned on and select bind. After that turn on the quadcopter and it should work. If not let me know.
I Just Received Mine Today Analog With XM Plus Receiver, I Binded It To My X9D Transmitter, Set Up Modes. Went For Test Flight. And I Barely Raised The Throttle, And It Goes All Crazy, Revs Up, Cannot Control. Flips Upside Down. Any Advise... I Sure Would Appreciate ANYTHING, Thanks ...
1. Remove the props 2. Check that all the sticks are working as expected under the receiver tab on Bataflight. 3. Check the board orientation ( move it around and examine the setup page) 4. Check the direction of the motors. 5. Make sure that the propellers were installed properly in the correct direction.
@@KremerFPV Thank You, It Ended Up Being A Corrupt Dump File. It Was Sent To Me Brand New Corrupted. I Used Your Dump File Here, And It Fixed Everything !!! Thank You For Supplying That File, Without It, My Kwad Would Still NOT BE WORKING...I Love And Watch Your Vids All The Time ! Awesome Work !!!
Nice video! Just bought one! Still gotta set it and my radio up. Never flown fpv, I've only been flying my mavic 2 pro. Hope I can get it done! Thank you, btw!
Do you will review the NewBeeDrone SavageBee? :D And 3 weeks ago you said that one week later will come a video from the sequre soldering iron giveaway. Did you forgot it? xD
Haha, I didn't forget about it and the winner will be announced today. I don't expect to review any products from NewBeDrone in the near future, sorry.
Thanks! If you want to make a TH-cam channel, go for it and don't concentrate on the numbers. Make quality content and the rest will follow. Good luck!
Thanks for another great review. I was wondering about the hype of using Lithium Ion battery for 30min flights, does this not count for all 4'' and larger drones and using this type of battery? Also why can video drones like dji mini and similar do fly for 25+min on lipo's? Keep up the good work :D
@@KremerFPV after initial setup (update and settings modification) and GPS check, all I can say is. I love it. I'm using 850mAh 4s Tattus and it is great little flyer. GPS rescue works but for my use it needs to be on switch not in failsafe. Supplied props seem surprisingly grippy and still efficient. It's definitely not a racer but for my intended use it's exactly what I needed. Going to tear down my gopro8 to naked for this baby croc. I need to make some testing later if naked GoPro with DIY 4s lion would be too heavy. That would be about 120g more weight but I assume it can handle that for smooth flying. Have you tried naked GoPro on your lightweight 4inchers?
@@Walto86 That's great! These 4" micro LR are definitely something else ;-) I did try a GoPro 7 Naked camera on both Flywoo Explorer and iFlight Chimera4 (Check out my latest video) and I am very pleased with the results.
@@rodriguezperalta3212 there are all the restrictions you can imagine...but you always find ways ... roads under construction or out of the 5th ring of security... it is possible
Another great video, looking forward to the comparison video between similar models
I'm agree with you!
Can't wait any-more for comparison :D
I'm close to cancel flywoo order and buy this one!
Seems to be better on every aspect, except maybe the AIO board. But flywoo has no current sensor is'nt it? But geprc seems to no have blackbox memory.
GPS fix is better than flywoo?
VTX antenna size is about the same ?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks Shane. I expect to receive the Diatone 4" soon so I hope to be able to add it to the comparison video.
GPS seems to be working well but I need to get more air time in order to give you my verdict.
@@KremerFPV Good stuff, looking forward to an update
@@KremerFPV Great, that will make it even more interesting!
Looks great, thanks Gal. Looking forward to the comparison. You are the first reviewer! Not many of these in the wild! 👊🏻
Thanks! I am probably going to wait for the new Diatone 4" to arrive before making the comparison though ;-)
Hi Gal. I would like to fly that little one, but right now there are so many to choose from its hard to tell witch one to purchase. I think it's going to be good for going up a nice cliff close by, but it could be a blast to explore parks and areas that you couldn't do before. Thanks again for the video and information. Have a great week .
Thanks Johnny, I am sure you will like it and there a definitely a lot of options to choose from. Take care buddy and have a great weekend.
Looks really good. Have the flywoo, little skeptical of aio board, not having good luck on my Phantom HD with them. Love gep, would love this if I were confident with aio board.
Great info. I don't like aios because the one part to fail in birds is esc and motor's I've found. Dont like all your eggs in one basket so to speak
Yes there are cons and pros for using an AIO boards. The current draw is pretty low though and I am pretty sure that for this specific setup it will work well though.
How do you bind the quad to your radio?
Looks a good alternative to me, the arms make more sense...Where can we get the 3D files for those antenna mounts...?
I am not sure if they are available online...
Super informative. Straight to business. Thanks.
I just got one and was disappointed it didn't come with the xt60 to xt30 adapter.
Thanks!
I actually never got a quadcopter with and xt60 to xt30 adapter. You can easily make one or purchase it :-)
Excellent review! I don't understand why all the other reviewers do not discuss battery time on a long-range quad LOL. All you hear is "yeah it will do 30min on the GEPRC Lion 3000mah battery". Who cares, what can it do on other batteries and you answered that, thank you!
Thanks a lot, I am glad that my video contains some added value over the others :-)
hello... how can i adjust my caddx vistas bitrate? im only getting 25mbps . on the goggles it doesnt let me choose...
search in youtube
Update both Vista TX and Goggles to the latest firmware version.
Can you do a video showing how to bind the baby croc with the r9m rx to a Taranis qx7 or any taranis model.
Sorry but it's too specific. Check out this video: th-cam.com/video/3gHsGXblm04/w-d-xo.html
Some shots have the camera angle not steep enough it seems.
Hi. Did you have some advice to fix current sensors inaccuracies? Replace resistor on fligh controller?
Hi, did you first try to calibrate it and adjust the settings using Betaflight?
How is the sound/loudness compared to the Flywoo explorer? 😊 Or how loud is it in general?
It's pretty similar as far as I can remember :-)
does it have a naked gopro mount available? Can you fit the 3000mah LiIon battery with the naked gopro? Is there room for both? Thanks
I am not sure if a mount is available. I am using the Flywoo mount and a piece of double sided tape as the back two holes are not compatible (the ones on the front are ok).
You should be able to fit a lion pack with the Naked GoPro camera but it will be pretty tight and you should avoid crashing your drone ;-)
Please help. I'm setting up my Crocodile Baby but I don't have GPS rescue on the fail safe page.what do I do. Thank you.
Does the GPS icon light up when the battery is connected?
how can i bind with the radio controller ? there is a button to push ?^
Which radio receiver do you have?
thanks for the review. My CrocBaby4" with Vista HD pnp also has a "jittery" effect in the video. Without resorting to post (Warp Stablizer at about 15% removes it, but I hate the resulting crop), is this something that can be tuned out? Your video is just about exactly what I get using an 850mAh battery. What do you think?
My pleasure. Fine tuning should improve it's flight performance and stability. I suggest checking out this video by TMac th-cam.com/video/r7I6pLA0dx4/w-d-xo.html
Hi, I have bought Analogue Version and unfortunately i have reset and all the pre configuration is lost, now the modes are gone, i'm unable to arm, also my video is fully distorted, can you help me setup everything to default
Hi, the stock settings are included in the description of the video.
I purchased the baby crocodile Caddx vista version, DJI goggles, and DJI transmitter I updated them all ,goggles bound with quad excellent video transmission the caddx vista baby croc bound with DJI transmitter but the transmitter will not pick up on betaflight or will not arm I did calibrate the quad when I first got on betaflight where should I start diagnosing I'm lost ,any help would be greatly appreciated thanks "Flying Squirrel"
Hi Rick, did you figure it out?
The Crocodile comes with an LHCP Antenna, ist it possible to change to an RHCP one? Or will it not compatible with the Drone?
You can change to RHCP, sure.
Hi Gal, thanks for the great review and for explaining things so clearly.... I just received my Baby Croc and when flashing the FC I seemed to have lost the soft serial port for the GPS. I restored previous settings and tried using your CLI dump but I still don't seem to be able to get it back. Can you pls explain to me in simple terms what I need to do in BetaFlight to get it back pls?...
My pleasure Kim. Did you make sure that you flashed the correct firmware and the same version the flight controller was pre-loaded with?
@@KremerFPV I flashed it with GEPRCF411 4.2.8 I don’t know which version was on there initially. Is that important ?
Given that the CB4K is sold as a lightweight long range quad I am yet to see a video of this quad being pushed to its limits in terms of range. Just because it can fly for 28+ mins with a VTC6 pack doesn't necessarily mean it has great range. Crossfire is proven tech but just how good is the Vtx and Antenna etc that comes supplied with this quad. I'd love to see this test, and Gal I feel that you are the man to do it.
Thanks Rob. So far the farthest I've gone with this drone is 5KM (using an analog VTX). You can check it here: th-cam.com/video/ZWpU1XBmO1A/w-d-xo.html
@@KremerFPV I have already watched that video and whilst it's really impressive, and I must add that I always love your content it was not quite spec'd straight out of the box was it? The Rush Solo VTX was probably blasting out 1600mw. It would be good to see the same test but with stock antennas and stock 600mw VTX.
@@RobsClips1980 Thanks Rob. With the proper equipment you can definitely go very far even on 25mw. Maybe this video is what you're looking for: th-cam.com/video/K6fZd6fqk84/w-d-xo.html
Hi Gal!
I m using gep rc croc baby with caddx vista and frsky r9mm. I had to connect r9mm with f.port to uart 1 as it does not work on uart 2 tx pad..i dont why but others has the same experince. So my dji/caddx vista unit are on uart 2 tx2 rx2 and f.port with full telemetry also work flawlesly on uart T1 pad. But we had midflight rebooting issue with this setup..its a random reboot after some minutes flight. Have you any suggestion what need to change to eleminate the FC midflight reboot which causes crashes. We also remap softserial on Rx 1 for the gps to free up the current sensor where the gps tx leg was solderd by factory. Now everything is working but the FC randomly reboots. Thanks for any advice.
Hi there! I heard about this issue but didn't experience it. What is the CPU load? (You can check it on Betaflight).
@@KremerFPV thanks for quick reply..i will check the CPU load again, we ve checked bacause we put the gps tx leg to RX1 uart with sofserial by remapping that pad
Do you have a dump file to share? Bought one used and it's been ruined...
Please see the description of the video.
@@KremerFPV how did I miss that 👨🏻🦯🤦🏻
Hi Gal. Love your videos 😃
I’ve bought this quad with vista and crossfire but I cannot get crossfire to bind with my Radiomaster. What I’m a doing wrong? I just stays in “binding” mode without doing anything. I hope you can help me out. Thanks in advance. 🙏
Thanks Joey. Just making sure - do you have a Crossfire Transmitter?
@@KremerFPV Yes. I plugged in the tbs crossfire micro at my Radiomaster and I bought the quad which already should have a crossfire receiver installed. 🤔
@@joeynexus4525 First turn on your Radio controller. Make sure that the Crossfire TX is turned on and select bind. After that turn on the quadcopter and it should work. If not let me know.
@@KremerFPV It doesn’t. It’s solid red. 😕
@@joeynexus4525 press the bind button on the rx while powering it up and try again.
I Just Received Mine Today Analog With XM Plus Receiver, I Binded It To My X9D Transmitter, Set Up Modes. Went For Test Flight. And I Barely Raised The Throttle, And It Goes All Crazy, Revs Up, Cannot Control. Flips Upside Down. Any Advise... I Sure Would Appreciate ANYTHING, Thanks ...
1. Remove the props
2. Check that all the sticks are working as expected under the receiver tab on Bataflight.
3. Check the board orientation ( move it around and examine the setup page)
4. Check the direction of the motors.
5. Make sure that the propellers were installed properly in the correct direction.
@@KremerFPV Thank You, It Ended Up Being A Corrupt Dump File. It Was Sent To Me Brand New Corrupted. I Used Your Dump File Here, And It Fixed Everything !!! Thank You For Supplying That File, Without It, My Kwad Would Still NOT BE WORKING...I Love And Watch Your Vids All The Time ! Awesome Work !!!
@@1juswnahvfn That's great! Happy flying and take care!
Is the bind botton the one on the gps
No. Which receiver do you have?
Won't bind its pnp/bnf
How do you bind using betaflight
Nice video! Just bought one! Still gotta set it and my radio up. Never flown fpv, I've only been flying my mavic 2 pro. Hope I can get it done!
Thank you, btw!
Thanks Mark, welcome to the world of FPV!
I think I"m stupid : I can't find where to download betaflight on the betaflight website
There you go: github.com/betaflight/betaflight-configurator/releases/download/10.7.0/betaflight-configurator-installer_10.7.0_win32.exe
@@KremerFPV thanks a lot :)
Thanks for the great reviews as always. Do you prefer this or chimera4?
Thanks! Once I will be done testing the different options I will post a video about it.
Amazing flying, Gal!!! 😃
Seems like a fantastic option as well! That's great! And great review!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank you! You too!
Welcome back to my Cha-nell
Hi it good for first pilot?
Yes, but I recommend to start with something like the Meteor65.
@@KremerFPV thanks for reply.
Can it do freestyle too?
Not very aggressive freestyle, but yes.
Excellent as always
Thanks buddy!
Do you will review the NewBeeDrone SavageBee? :D
And 3 weeks ago you said that one week later will come a video from the sequre soldering iron giveaway. Did you forgot it? xD
Haha, I didn't forget about it and the winner will be announced today. I don't expect to review any products from NewBeDrone in the near future, sorry.
Hello gal great video
Also how many subscribers did you have until you got a review unit, wanted to know as I’d like to start TH-cam as a fun project
Thanks!
If you want to make a TH-cam channel, go for it and don't concentrate on the numbers. Make quality content and the rest will follow. Good luck!
@@KremerFPV ok thank you very much!
Great video! Thank you! Much more informative that Joshua Bardwell.
Thanks a lot, I am glad you enjoyed it! :-)
Thanks for another great review. I was wondering about the hype of using Lithium Ion battery for 30min flights, does this not count for all 4'' and larger drones and using this type of battery?
Also why can video drones like dji mini and similar do fly for 25+min on lipo's?
Keep up the good work :D
Thanks Hugo for providing an excellent answer!
HI Gal should have mine by Monday fingers x Great vid
Did you get it?
@@KremerFPV got it slow and low such fun
@@dougbrokeit7406 Great! Have fun!
This video came just in time. Fedex is promising to deliver my Baby Croc tomorrow. Glad to se it seems to be similar level product than LR Explorer.
How do you like it so far?
@@KremerFPV after initial setup (update and settings modification) and GPS check, all I can say is. I love it. I'm using 850mAh 4s Tattus and it is great little flyer. GPS rescue works but for my use it needs to be on switch not in failsafe. Supplied props seem surprisingly grippy and still efficient. It's definitely not a racer but for my intended use it's exactly what I needed. Going to tear down my gopro8 to naked for this baby croc.
I need to make some testing later if naked GoPro with DIY 4s lion would be too heavy. That would be about 120g more weight but I assume it can handle that for smooth flying. Have you tried naked GoPro on your lightweight 4inchers?
@@Walto86 That's great! These 4" micro LR are definitely something else ;-)
I did try a GoPro 7 Naked camera on both Flywoo Explorer and iFlight Chimera4 (Check out my latest video) and I am very pleased with the results.
Great video... greetings from Beijing... will get mine in 2 weeks... GepRC also offers it in a bundle along with the Tango 2 PRO and a GEPRC 🧢 😎😎😎
Thanks a lot and happy flying!
Are you flying it in Beijing? Are there any restrictions for flying near buildings or something like that?
@@rodriguezperalta3212 there are all the restrictions you can imagine...but you always find ways ... roads under construction or out of the 5th ring of security... it is possible