I wish the Vatican would invest in a project to forensically reconstruct the faces of all the skulls of the saints in their possession of whom there are no actual portraits.
The concept of relics reminds me of Acts 5:15 when people brought the sick out so that they might be healed by St. Peter's shadow falling on them. Being touched by his shadow is obviously not like being touched by his hand, but it does mean you have a certain proximity to him. Seeing their relics isn't like meeting a saint in person, but the proximity to their body, even though they are no longer in it, takes them from being an idea or a story and puts them here and now in reality.
Erik James It was their faith that they could be healed simply by having Peter’s shadow touch them that they were healed. Think of the woman who touched Jesus’s garments and was healed. He told her that her faith saved her due to her belief that she could be healed by touching his garments.
Linking gnosticism with relics was a surprising and helpful move. I'm not quite convinced but I'm paying more attention now. Bishop Barron should definitely follow through and do a video on gnosticism.
Bishop, they played one of your videos in my RCIA class this week, specifically an old one concerning the Eucharist and the Real Presence of Christ. I recognized it as one of yours immediately, since I've watched almost your whole backlog of videos. Please keep up the good work spreading the truth of God.
I regard relics as important as they are a testimony to how the people of that saints life reverenced him because of the life he led. Extraordinary! It's a.testiment to devotion.
I was raised Catholic as well until I discovered it was satanic at its core. I read the words of Jesus and it changed my life. He said we must be born again to enter into the kingdom of heaven. I gave up everything for Jesus. I became a new creation and Jesus changed me. I could not do it but Jesus did when he came to live in me. The ROMAN Catholic Church makes Hitler and Stalin crimes look much smaller. 60 million Christians beaten, tortured, imprisoned, raped, and murdered for the gospel of Christ and for not bowing to the Pope. This does not count the millions they have killed through their secret orders such as the Jesuits who work to infiltrate and subvert governments. During the time of the crusades and inquisition, the popes made up their own laws which still today are cannon. These are the same popes who murdered and tortured millions and satanicly molested children. I have studied the occult for thousands of hours. The Catholic Church is pure satanic Babylonian mysticism watered down and mixed with watered down Christianity. It was the Romans who had the power and were manipulated by the synagogues of Satan to crucify our Lord. Today the Vatican still has close ties to the synagogue of Satan. Protestantism is not the answer either. They all have false doctrines and teachings. Jesus Christ is the answer. Jesus said and man shall be taught by God. We cannot rely on man or traditions or teachings from the church but God first. Yes there are teachers but God comes first. Take everything to God through much prayer and fasting to know the truth. We must also be living righteous or God will not reveal the truth to us. Ask God is purgatory real? What is necromancy? Is praying to dead people biblical? Who is a saint according to the Bible. Is what I know in the Bible? How do I know what I know? Was I just taught by man or did God teach me? Who is the queen of heaven? Jeremiah 44. Why does the Vatican have an obelisk or an Egyptian phallus symbol or penis situated in front of the dome just as Washington DC? It is sex magick. Do we need a priest to act as a mediator? What does it mean the veil was torn when Jesus was crucified. What is born again mean? A little leaven, leveaneth the whole lump. The pope's title is Holy Father and Vicar of Christ which means replacement of Christ. The pope's mitre comes from Dagon. The list of damnable heresies goes on and on. I'm pleading with you Catholics, seek God with all your heart, then you will find him. Sincerely ask God over and over, praying with all your heart and fasting and repenting of your sins. Ask him if Catholicism is wrong. Even if it is just one doctrine. We must worship God in spirit and in truth. Sadly Catholics do not know the gospel. They don't understand why Jesus was crucified. They don't understand what being born again is. They don't know what baptism is. We are buried with Christ. Jesus said whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it and whoever loses his life will keep it. We are to die daily. When we are in the flesh, we are absent from the Lord. The Holy Spirit comes to live in us and it is only by the Spirit that we repent from ALL our sins and live righteously. We cannot do it on our own. But do not be deceived, sin is death and all sinners will burn in the lake of fire. There are either sinners or saints. Yes we have all sinned but if you continue living in sin, you will perish. There is no purgatory or praying for the dead. There is appointed once a man to die then the judgment. We are tried through the fire on earth like Job not in purgatory which is made up. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. He is the word of God and we must be filled with the Word. The Bible is the word of God but we must have God teach us. A friend of the world is an enemy of God. Love not the world neither the things in it, whoever loves the world does not have the love of the Father in them. Come to Jesus before it is too late. Repent of your sins and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit which comes with power. You shall cast out demons, heal the sick, speak with new tongues, prophecy, work miracles and much more.
@@Nathanh56 The crimes of Martin Luther and Henry VIII is worse than the crimes of Hitler and Stalin. Jesus established the Catholic church, do you know Jesus?
@@kelechukwuanosike767 when did I say Martin Luther was a good man? The Romans killed Jesus and now the Romans have their state church. Jesus did not establish the Catholic Church and the scriptures were written by holy men of God. It just so happened that the Catholic Church has the power to put the books in one place. The catechism written by the Roman Catholic Church goes against the scriptures
I like your new multi-camera set-up - I tend to listen to your videos whilst looking at other things, this is a much better way of grabbing people's attention
I think that if we only experience Good in history we are missing something. I don't have a lot of opinion on this, but feel that if the relics become the focus we put sticks in our eyes. Just MHO. Thanks for sharing.
Wow Just awesome! Just when I thought I knew everything there is to know about relics.. Bishop you really managed to open my eyes further! I love what you said " One of the best way to fight nazism is with those still impressive teehts of Saint Ambrose! Brilliant Bishop Barron , also could you explain the more hidden forms of gnosticism that still takes place in today 's faith ? God bless you and thank you !
It struck me, that it also demonstrates our faith in the resurrection. Otherwise, skeletons etc would be scary, but instead, they are holy and wonderful, because Christ lived, and will live again, in their bodies
Hi Bishop Barron. I love watching your videos. I was wondering if you could do a video on the topic of my favorite thinker, Soren Kierkegaard. I've been working my way through his journals and papers, and although he only mentions the Catholic church a few times, I was somewhat surprised to read that he was fairly sympathetic to it, especially with regards to the monastic tradition. Just the other day, I was reading a fascinating paper that reconciled Kierkegaard with Aquinas by explaining the differences between 'reason' in Aquinas' latin (rato) and Kierkegaard's danish (forstand). The paper even had a citation claiming that many people who study Kierkegaard end up by becoming Catholics. I would be very interested to hear what you would have to say on the matter, especially since Kierkegaard seems to be one of the only definitively Christian thinkers that is widely read and appreciated outside of Christian circles.
Speaking of teeth, A favorite movie of Pope Francis, "Babette's Feast" is a beautiful rebuttal against gnosticism **spoiler alert** It's about a poor French refugee woman who used to be the head chef of the finest restaurant in Paris, and gets taken in by a remote puritanical religious community with tight restrictions on what they eat/drink. "In Paradise you will be the great artist that God meant you to be...Ah, how you will delight the angels!"
Bishop, I know you’ve done many videos, but have you ever done one about the ancient churches constructed with skulls and skeletons embedded in the walls? It’s creepy, but it demonstrates our ancient belief that Christ was victorious over death. I would love to see that! God bless!
I love being Catholic and recently went on a pilgrimage where I was able to see some relics for the first time. I couldn't help but feel weird about seeing body parts (St Theresa of Avilas finger, St Therese of Liseux s forearm and St Vincent de Paul's heart.) Seeing a complete body was a little better., but still not sure how i feel about it. Seeing St Therese of Liseux 's toys was fascinating and walking into some of the saints homes was very special.
Margot Bravo I was raised Catholic as well until I discovered it was satanic at its core. I read the words of Jesus and it changed my life. He said we must be born again to enter into the kingdom of heaven. I gave up everything for Jesus. I became a new creation and Jesus changed me. I could not do it but Jesus did when he came to live in me. The ROMAN Catholic Church makes Hitler and Stalin crimes look much smaller. 60 million Christians beaten, tortured, imprisoned, raped, and murdered for the gospel of Christ and for not bowing to the Pope. This does not count the millions they have killed through their secret orders such as the Jesuits who work to infiltrate and subvert governments. During the time of the crusades and inquisition, the popes made up their own laws which still today are cannon. These are the same popes who murdered and tortured millions and satanicly molested children. I have studied the occult for thousands of hours. The Catholic Church is pure satanic Babylonian mysticism watered down and mixed with watered down Christianity. It was the Romans who had the power and were manipulated by the synagogues of Satan to crucify our Lord. Today the Vatican still has close ties to the synagogue of Satan. Protestantism is not the answer either. They all have false doctrines and teachings. Jesus Christ is the answer. Jesus said and man shall be taught by God. We cannot rely on man or traditions or teachings from the church but God first. Yes there are teachers but God comes first. Take everything to God through much prayer and fasting to know the truth. We must also be living righteous or God will not reveal the truth to us. Ask God is purgatory real? What is necromancy? Is praying to dead people biblical? Who is a saint according to the Bible. Is what I know in the Bible? How do I know what I know? Was I just taught by man or did God teach me? Who is the queen of heaven? Jeremiah 44. Why does the Vatican have an obelisk or an Egyptian phallus symbol or penis situated in front of the dome just as Washington DC? It is sex magick. Do we need a priest to act as a mediator? What does it mean the veil was torn when Jesus was crucified. What is born again mean? A little leaven, leveaneth the whole lump. The pope's title is Holy Father and Vicar of Christ which means replacement of Christ. The pope's mitre comes from Dagon. The list of damnable heresies goes on and on. I'm pleading with you Catholics, seek God with all your heart, then you will find him. Sincerely ask God over and over, praying with all your heart and fasting and repenting of your sins. Ask him if Catholicism is wrong. Even if it is just one doctrine. We must worship God in spirit and in truth. Sadly Catholics do not know the gospel. They don't understand why Jesus was crucified. They don't understand what being born again is. They don't know what baptism is. We are buried with Christ. Jesus said whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it and whoever loses his life will keep it. We are to die daily. When we are in the flesh, we are absent from the Lord. The Holy Spirit comes to live in us and it is only by the Spirit that we repent from ALL our sins and live righteously. We cannot do it on our own. But do not be deceived, sin is death and all sinners will burn in the lake of fire. There are either sinners or saints. Yes we have all sinned but if you continue living in sin, you will perish. There is no purgatory or praying for the dead. There is appointed once a man to die then the judgment. We are tried through the fire on earth like Job not in purgatory which is made up. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. He is the word of God and we must be filled with the Word. The Bible is the word of God but we must have God teach us. A friend of the world is an enemy of God. Love not the world neither the things in it, whoever loves the world does not have the love of the Father in them. Come to Jesus before it is too late. Repent of your sins and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit which comes with power. You shall cast out demons, heal the sick, speak with new tongues, prophecy, work miracles and much more.
after reading John Calvin's Treatise on Relics, I was somewhat disappointed: "It is of no use to discuss the point whether it is right or wrong to have relics merely to keep them as precious objects without worshiping them, because experience proves that this is never the case." He blows off the whole crux of the issue with a single sentence (the very issue I has hoping to have illuminated), and the rest of the treatise is basically a summary dismissal of relics based on their dubious authenticity (as if people weren't already aware that there were no three-headed apostles!).
The veneration of relics is seen in the account of Polycarp’s martyrdom written by the Smyrnaeans in A.D. 156. The Christians describe the events following his burning at the stake: "We took up his bones, which are more valuable than precious stones and finer than refined gold, and laid them in a suitable place, where the Lord will permit us to gather ourselves together, as we are able, in gladness and joy and to celebrate the birthday of his martyrdom." Isn’t that true?
I totally agree with these points on the veneration of relics: 1. it is an ancient practice 2. it is in perfect harmony with "natural theology" 3. it stands in stark contrast with the anti-man/anti-body ideology of Gnosticism/Manichaeism 4. used properly, it can stimulate folks to piety and worship
Wait, are you saying that the Apostle Hydra isn't real? They say that when the Romans cut off his head, two grew in its place. Darn. Thanks for the revelation, Calvin.
I can see what you're saying about relics being a manifestation of the idea of the incarnation, but I struggle to see how displaying decaying bodies is a display of eternal life. I can see that people want to have a physical connection to that time. Relics that were not someone's body etc are less concerned with this decaying bodies. However the display of people... I am seeing that as a reminder of death, not resurrection.
Same here. And it doesn't seem that anyone really does get over the "creepiness". I would trust that intuition. Death is the sign of and punishment for our fallenness, and displaying dead bodies and bones seems to be an embracing of death itself. If you believe matter isn't evil, shouldn't that just amount to showing respect to the bodies as in respectfully burying them?
From St. Ambrose's skull, it should be possible for modern anthropologists to get a really good idea of what he actually looked like! Has that been done? Thomas Aquinas said, "Since our soul has its being in corporeal matter, as long as we have life, it knows only what has a form in matter." (How God is known by us, XII, art. 11) Aquinas live in the 1200's and Ambrose in the 300's. I think they saw the soul and body as intimately related, and even after death the body was respected and reverenced, not worshiped. That is part of Catholic tradition, part of why, I suspect, for most of Catholic history bodies had to be buried intact in a consecrated cemetery and NOT cremated. Fantastic teeth indeed.
Reverence. Sanctified. Holy. Distinct. Separate. Remembrance. I will not speak of Thy Mysteries to Thy Enemies, Nor will I give Thee a kiss as did Judas, But like the Thief do I confess Thee, Remember me O Lord in Thy Kingdom, Remember me O Master in Thy Kingdom. Remember me O Holy One in Thy Kingdom, Thank you for showing the Holy and Great Saint Ambrose. He was greater than great.
Hi Tin Man Saint Ambrose is probably praying for us right now.. and no Saint Ambrose wouldn't have considered it creepy. Would you consider creepy the body, bones and blood of our Lord Jesus? We must understand that these relics belong to saints, that means that their faith has grown to the point of become one with the Lord,in mind, body and soul, not replacing the Lord but Holy like HIm, Holy because Jesus is Holy and that is what He asks of us, to become like Him...this happens, hopefully to all of us, usually happens after death, after a certain time spent in purification, called purgatory that enable us to enter heaven, and in purgatory we are already Holy souls as once there, we are sure to enter heaven. To enter heaven or to to become a saint is the same thing, and we need to be ready, and to be ready we must be pure , free from all that attaches us to whatever it is that pushes us away from God, away from our final destination, heaven. It takes great faith, love, but most of all persevering trust and hope in God to become a saint. Saint Ambrose body is no longer his body, in the sense of body remains, just as Jesus 's body was given to us onto the cross. Jesus was, as Bishop Barron once said a happy man on the cross, because He gave it all, body blood, water and soul. He did it and He knew that once He did that, mission would be accomplished for ever, that we would have been saved and the devil defeated for ever. By diying on the cross, Jesus took sin on Him, he become sin, he even looked like sin, He swallowed it all in His being and gave it to God and transformed it into love as God is Love and so is His son Jesus, and so are saints. Saints are not only emulating to be like Jesus they become like Him not in place of Jesus but at one with Him. This makes their lives and bodies pricelessly valued to the heart of the Church and to all hearts. Also this should answer the reasons why we hear of miracles when wearing a piece of cloth or holding a bone from a saint. Is not magic or superstition, or illusion just as resurrection is not magic or Illusion.
Hi Tin Man, well I am not sure what is that you are saying, here.. Jesus was free from sin so was his body wihtout sin and uncorrupted by sin, alhough disfigured by our sins He resurrected on the third day, so do we resurrect but we couldnot resurrect the same way Jesus did after three days, our blessed Lady was takn to heaven but we could not... we are sinners yet we do resurrect at the estblished time and we will have a real new body phisical more real than the one we have today ! if we are saints we go straight to heaven if not we need purification. What matters is that we never die and the saints bodies here on earth as their clothing or close things to them are also holy. Jesus did not have a tomb it belonged to a friend, neighbour and it was given to him, He the Lord set an example for us all He emptied Himself infact he was naked when he died, he had no clothes, no grave, no savings, no home, a part from a last minute intervention by Joseph that gave him a tomb.. so my point is that We can't really compare Jesus burial to our human saints of today, Jesus was fully human but he was the Son of God ..hence His resurrection obviously would have beeen divinly spectacular beside He had to conform to the scriptures..hence he rose after three days .. But I don't understand your question .. really what is it that you are saying? That saints should be buried ? If yes I have to say that is going to be difficult if not impossible you mean buried out of vision to the world? It does not works like that for a Saint, as when dead become a even more wonferful proof of God divinity within man.. and that includes miracles of all sorts...saints are servants of God and of people and they know in their humility that when they die that their bodies as saints are ongoing miracles for anyone to witness.. and because they are at one with God, they are able to perform miracles, conversions, healings, profecies, miracles of all sorts just like Jesus did even after death if not more so . Behind all miracles and behind everything there is God , This is very important to understand, we have to have the humility to understand that sometimes things happens like the life of a Saint that just seems so crazy to the rational mind and the same with the death of a saint . They never age, they emanate beautuful perfume, they are a huge consolations to milions of pilgrims that wishes to pay their rispects that alone is a miracle in itself, take Padre Pio Saint Bernadette, the number is staggering ...Honestly is like buryng a live person because in many if not all cases they don't look a day older or an hour older that when they died . Imagine that, what a winderful and crazy gift from God . I know that Padre Pio would want follow the Church wishes...San Pio loved and continues to love all people and loves God and even now SAn Pio and all Saints love to help others and they will do so for ever I think.. to bury them would be unthinkable for now anyway ...In the end Jesus had to be buried for three days, He did so to fulfill the scripture, and to resurrect after three days to fulfill His Word and His promise. There is a natural life and there is the supernatural the life of the saints founded their whole of their lives on humility obedience poverty and chastity spending their days in prayer helping others with all their hearths and souls and bodies and mind just like Jesus.. It's almost impossible try to understand a supernatural event like the death of a saint with the eye and view of natural thinking..limited to the natural dynamic of this world. th-cam.com/video/GSCk0qs-2-M/w-d-xo.html
I felt bad when I read that they took relics from Saint Bernadette's body. I thought it was disrespectful to cut into her. Leave her alone was in my mind.
I love the scenes in Silence where they're having mass in shacks or on the beach. It's so pure. I understand the rationale for the materialism in Catholicism, but I also think there's way too much of it.
I'm catholic, but still I don't like the reverence that I have seen from many people to those relics (someones even rub their hands over the glass of the showcases and then passes their hands over their own bodies), I think they are interesting in the same sense that articles in a museum are interesting, so I don't see anything wrong with showing them either. I didn't know about the use of the relics against that belief that everything from the corpse is wrong, so probably it had a good use, but that made me wonder: really today's Church doesn't have anything better to fight that kind of misconceptions?, now when so many people can read and with this interconnected world I think there are ways to deliver the message more directly.
luis enrique vargas azcona The practice of touching and rubbing is cultural. Mostly Asian Catholics do that. It's not irreverence but love. I can touch you and smell you and drink from your cup and take a bite out of your sandwich and use your handkerchief, etc. In other words I can make you part of myself and vice versa because you are not different from me.
Go to Latin America and some developing countries, many people can't read. The practice of venerating relics must continue . It is a continuation of the incarnation
The Catholic church must not do everything you like. You are not God. We do what God likes and not what you like. You have to conform your self to God for you to be a good Catholic
I'm not convinced that the many people going gaga over the Nag Hammadi texts is anything more than a fad, but I base that entirely on anecdotal evidence.
Even when is not explicitly called "gnostic", the idea that everything related to the body is bad is very frequent. There is also a movement that calls itself "gnostic" but has nothing to do with the original gnostics. Also, I have seen a lot of influences from the old gnostic tales in pop media, specifically, the idea of the evil demiurge is frequently used as a straw man to attack all abrahamic religions.
Recently, I heard that relics transmit the grace of God to those who touch or are physically present to them. First, is that true? I would postulate that it is true because of the ancient tradition (pilgrimages and veneration). Otherwise they are just "exhibit A" for theological discussion and a fascination of the mind. Second, if they transmit the grace of God, to what degree ought we to avail ourselves to them? In other words, what's their potency to free one from sin to more fully experience God? Thirdly, regardless of potency, clearly the Eucharist is the Body of Christ, which we consume and venerate, so why go to another source of divine grace other than the sacraments themselves? Fourthly, if God is omnipresent, then what prevents the individual from fully experiencing God is identification to sin that close the mind from the experience. Therefore, awakening the mind (repentance of sin), is necessary to experience divinity more fully. So regardless of whether it is the Eucharist, a sacrament, or a sacramental, the first step to growing in holiness is to become aware of one's sinfulness (how we are identified with sin), otherwise, the power of grace is present but we are not open to it, we can't even see it, unless of course, God miraculously breaks through our spiritual blindness. Therefore, spiritual practice of repentance must first be established before making a pilgrimage to a relic or reception of the Sacrament. Bishop Barron, what are your thoughts?
Another reason why we need to keep sacred relics is they act as evidence. A saint becomes more real when their bones, belongings, etc. are in front of us. Plus, relics are proof those saints are Catholic.
PS: Speaking of the Church "going out": I would love to see ALL church going people join together and march down the most crime infested streets or Main street or whatever, EVERY Sunday after services and then ALL gather in a park for food (physical and spiritual) to discuss how they and their city and their world is getting better day by day. Of course today in our USA you would have to have armed guards dressed in costumes to wave at the children but protect the gatherings. Good far outnumber the evil but the evil are 99% of the news thus appear to be much more massive than they really are. Make being spiritual, Good, Goodly ,,, PC again, the direction the crowd is running in and not from. I am a product of the USA 1950s and remember when children going out alone all day was the norm and safe. Just be home by dark. Today parents would have their children taken away for neglect (or kidnapped or murdered) in most of our "modern" American cities of today. Nothing stands still, all things either grow or decay. If good grows, evil will decay or visa versa. ..
I have read that according to statistics the crime in USA have been decreasing through the decades. So the media make seem everything like more and more dangerous, even when that isn't true; or maybe people the decrease in crime is consequence of people getting more afraid of it and in consequence, being more cautious.
Padre this seems like a lot of hoops to jump to explain the reverence of death. I remember the story of the possessed man that greeted Jesus when he arrived with the Garasenes. The possessed man lived in the tombs surrounded by death and this contributed to his condition. Seems wrong I my heart.
So I have a question. I thought the bodies of saints were incorruptible. If that is the case how are St. Ambrose's remains decayed to the skeleton? Is that not the case?
That is a very good explanation. Makes sense but forgets to take into account how relics were/are treated as commodities capable of "granting" wishes (mind you St. Mark's remains were smuggled into Venice from Alexandria just so the "it" city could have a famous patron), which sits squarely opposite to the no idolatry rule. The Virgin Mary presents the exact same problem. What you call gnosticism, for some of us, is adherence to the capital rule of ONE TRUE GOD. I don't believe the Father, or the Son for that matter, needs intermediaries. And you have to wonder, why the bodies of both Jesus Christ and Mary were ascended to Heaven along with their souls? The duality was never a gnostic preocupation but a very catholic one.
Act 19: God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.
Good teeth are common from the ecclesiastical burials ive worked on, they ate better , good meat plenty of fruit & fish . Unlike what the poor had to eat , gruel & pottage 😣
I would say tradition ...but part of the memory of what has gone before in faith. While I admire Newman, I would not go along with him on this, neither would I go with the sacramental/incarnational link adduced here. I would lean to the memory of those who have gone before in the Apostolic tradition.
Playing with relics is BLOOD MAGIC.. Do as you please, but be pleased with what you do!! Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will rule over all." 3 Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) imperial rule is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) imperial rule is inside you and outside you. When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty." 4 Jesus said, "The person old in days won't hesitate to ask a little child seven days old about the place of life, and that person will live. For many of the first will be last, and will become a single one." 5 Jesus said, "Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you. For there is nothing hidden that won't be revealed." 6 His disciples asked him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How should we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe?" Jesus said, "Don't lie, and don't do what you hate, because all things are disclosed before heaven. After all, there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, and there is nothing covered up that will remain undisclosed."
Man dog BIBLE VERSE PLEASE. Oh!!!! I get it, it's not in the bible!!! But... wait.... why didn't you give the source? After all, giving the source is just standard when citing Jesus right? Which gospel?! Ooohhhhhh!!!! You took this from the "gospel of Thomas" from Gnostism! I seeeee.......
I respect you and the Catholic Church a lot, I just don’t think that presenting body parts of saints to the public is respectful to them being image bearers and therefore to God himself. There is a reason for why bones are hidden under flesh. It is the way God wanted them to be. Just like our body should one day be buried underground. Thank you though for your videos!
Psalm 115:4-8 ESV Their idols are silver and gold, the work of human hands. [5] They have mouths, but do not speak; eyes, but do not see. [6] They have ears, but do not hear; noses, but do not smell. [7] They have hands, but do not feel; feet, but do not walk; and they do not make a sound in their throat. [8] Those who make them become like them; so do all who trust in them. YES this absolutly applies to statues, icons and relics. Anything NOT ALIVE!!! Be VERY careful. Fear the Lord above all. Not your church.
Relics are great historically enlightening things, and good to have, but the catholics attribute far too much power to them. Maybe not so much now, but reliquaries in the past were blatantly idolatrous.
Um, no, because the idea of sainthood didn't exist until Jesus Himself established the Catholic Church, entrusting to the divinely-inspired Church the process of canonisation.
@@Model3GenerativeANdroid Yeah, I know. The name wasn't coined until after his death. The Catholic Church is still the same unbroken apostolic succession established by Him.
buba426 You’re probably just not used to seeing these types of relics. It is a bit strange, but I know from reading 2 Kings that Elisha’s bones raised a man from the dead.
Read Exodus 20:4-5........Satan is way more ingenious nd powerful to be shaken by so called holy items or relics 🤣😂 Only faith in Jesus Christ himself not material items
First of all, I appreciate these videos for the insight Bishop Barron gives on truly Catholic teaching. But the reason for Protestant iconoclasm isn't Gnosticism or disgust with bones. Devotion to relics has (throughout the centuries) been a superstitious replacement of devotion to the Living God. A few years ago I visited Montserrat monastery near Barcelona, site of the black-faced Madonna. From what I recall the tradition is to touch the orb that this statue holds in her hand. The line stretched out the door. I suppose people do this so they'll have good luck or God will bless them in some way. This is idolatry and it leads people away from a vibrant, direct relationship with the Lord through Jesus Christ. Pure preaching of the Gospel and administration of the sacraments is enough for correcting Gnosticism.
Mark, that's too reductive a view. Sure, there might be some people who approach a statue or a relic in a superstitious spirit. But Catholic teaching is eminently clear on this score: these things serve an iconic function, the physical speaking of the spiritual. Paul himself said that Jesus is the "icon of the invisible God."
WOW! If I were a Gnostic that would be the end of me! Tell me Bishop, do you just gobble up everything Newman says and then present it to us as an obvious fact? Fighting Gnosticism with relics of St. Ambrose, that's a good one. Looks like Henry Newman is just making up stuff to explain stuff, that's all.
On the one hand, relics are, objectively, ASTHETIC, on the other we find no solid basis for them in the Bible. It's a beautiful tradition, but a tradition of human origin.
First: There isn't anything or anywhere in the whole Bible that says, Mary is the Queen of heaven. Second: Jesus Christ is God, Lord and King of Heaven and Earth, King of the living and the dead who will be raised up on the day of his second coming to live with him eternal life. Third: The Queen is the Church that includes all the true believers in the Old Testament, and the true believers and followers of Jesus Christ, who are saved and sealed by the Holy Spirit for eternal life. Fourth: The Twelve stars are the twelve sons of Jacob, representing the Church by flesh in the Old Testament, and the twelve Disciples of Jesus, representing the Church by the Spirit in the New Testament. Therefore you have the 24 Elders around the throne of God in the book of Revelation. And the Queen the Church is clothed with the Sun = The true light of Jesus Christ, and the Moon under her feet. The Moon is not the true light, its every Heresy including Catholicism which is the biggest Heresy and Pagan Idol Worshipping Roman Religion. EXAMPLE,,,, Praying to Mary and repeating what Angel Gabriel told her 70 times a day using the Rosary?. and praying to dead Saints?. Matthew 6:7 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE) 7 “And in praying do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do; for they think that they will be heard for their many words.
I cannot tell you how utter weird, creepy, and just downright bizarre this when "relic' thing is!! UGH!🙄--Seriourly, who DOES that?? You Rock Catholics are off the rails!-- YUCK! 😐😐😐
L C Ringo I was raised Catholic as well until I discovered it was satanic at its core. I read the words of Jesus and it changed my life. He said we must be born again to enter into the kingdom of heaven. I gave up everything for Jesus. I became a new creation and Jesus changed me. I could not do it but Jesus did when he came to live in me. The ROMAN Catholic Church makes Hitler and Stalin crimes look much smaller. 60 million Christians beaten, tortured, imprisoned, raped, and murdered for the gospel of Christ and for not bowing to the Pope. This does not count the millions they have killed through their secret orders such as the Jesuits who work to infiltrate and subvert governments. During the time of the crusades and inquisition, the popes made up their own laws which still today are cannon. These are the same popes who murdered and tortured millions and satanicly molested children. I have studied the occult for thousands of hours. The Catholic Church is pure satanic Babylonian mysticism watered down and mixed with watered down Christianity. It was the Romans who had the power and were manipulated by the synagogues of Satan to crucify our Lord. Today the Vatican still has close ties to the synagogue of Satan. Protestantism is not the answer either. They all have false doctrines and teachings. Jesus Christ is the answer. Jesus said and man shall be taught by God. We cannot rely on man or traditions or teachings from the church but God first. Yes there are teachers but God comes first. Take everything to God through much prayer and fasting to know the truth. We must also be living righteous or God will not reveal the truth to us. Ask God is purgatory real? What is necromancy? Is praying to dead people biblical? Who is a saint according to the Bible. Is what I know in the Bible? How do I know what I know? Was I just taught by man or did God teach me? Who is the queen of heaven? Jeremiah 44. Why does the Vatican have an obelisk or an Egyptian phallus symbol or penis situated in front of the dome just as Washington DC? It is sex magick. Do we need a priest to act as a mediator? What does it mean the veil was torn when Jesus was crucified. What is born again mean? A little leaven, leveaneth the whole lump. The pope's title is Holy Father and Vicar of Christ which means replacement of Christ. The pope's mitre comes from Dagon. The list of damnable heresies goes on and on. I'm pleading with you Catholics, seek God with all your heart, then you will find him. Sincerely ask God over and over, praying with all your heart and fasting and repenting of your sins. Ask him if Catholicism is wrong. Even if it is just one doctrine. We must worship God in spirit and in truth. Sadly Catholics do not know the gospel. They don't understand why Jesus was crucified. They don't understand what being born again is. They don't know what baptism is. We are buried with Christ. Jesus said whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it and whoever loses his life will keep it. We are to die daily. When we are in the flesh, we are absent from the Lord. The Holy Spirit comes to live in us and it is only by the Spirit that we repent from ALL our sins and live righteously. We cannot do it on our own. But do not be deceived, sin is death and all sinners will burn in the lake of fire. There are either sinners or saints. Yes we have all sinned but if you continue living in sin, you will perish. There is no purgatory or praying for the dead. There is appointed once a man to die then the judgment. We are tried through the fire on earth like Job not in purgatory which is made up. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. He is the word of God and we must be filled with the Word. The Bible is the word of God but we must have God teach us. A friend of the world is an enemy of God. Love not the world neither the things in it, whoever loves the world does not have the love of the Father in them. Come to Jesus before it is too late. Repent of your sins and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit which comes with power. You shall cast out demons, heal the sick, speak with new tongues, prophecy, work miracles and much more.
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I love waking up and seeing a new Bishop Barron video.
Ditto :)
This is my new favorite catholic video
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Probably the best
Jacob Barrett
A centuries old skeleton has better teeth than me T_T
You can thank the use of sugar in almost everything we consume these days for that.
I wish the Vatican would invest in a project to forensically reconstruct the faces of all the skulls of the saints in their possession of whom there are no actual portraits.
That's not a bad idea
Some of them have been done. I think they did Anthony of Padua and Rose of Lima
Yeah like Catherina of Sienna
The concept of relics reminds me of Acts 5:15 when people brought the sick out so that they might be healed by St. Peter's shadow falling on them. Being touched by his shadow is obviously not like being touched by his hand, but it does mean you have a certain proximity to him. Seeing their relics isn't like meeting a saint in person, but the proximity to their body, even though they are no longer in it, takes them from being an idea or a story and puts them here and now in reality.
Jessica Barton o
It reminds me of the woman who believed she could be healed simply by touching Jesus’s clothes.
Erik James It was their faith that they could be healed simply by having Peter’s shadow touch them that they were healed. Think of the woman who touched Jesus’s garments and was healed. He told her that her faith saved her due to her belief that she could be healed by touching his garments.
Linking gnosticism with relics was a surprising and helpful move. I'm not quite convinced but I'm paying more attention now. Bishop Barron should definitely follow through and do a video on gnosticism.
It's always great to hear such a great theologian and preacher in such a clear and simple manner. God bless you Bishop Barron
I love this video because of its historical nature. Thank you Bishop Barron!
Bishop, they played one of your videos in my RCIA class this week, specifically an old one concerning the Eucharist and the Real Presence of Christ. I recognized it as one of yours immediately, since I've watched almost your whole backlog of videos. Please keep up the good work spreading the truth of God.
Some day in the Shoe of the Fisherman
I regard relics as important as they are a testimony to how the people of that saints life reverenced him because of the life he led. Extraordinary! It's a.testiment to devotion.
you make very good videos, you are a very wise man.
George Cobelens III
Too bad he believes in god...
I was raised Catholic as well until I discovered it was satanic at its core. I read the words of Jesus and it changed my life. He said we must be born again to enter into the kingdom of heaven. I gave up everything for Jesus. I became a new creation and Jesus changed me. I could not do it but Jesus did when he came to live in me. The ROMAN Catholic Church makes Hitler and Stalin crimes look much smaller. 60 million Christians beaten, tortured, imprisoned, raped, and murdered for the gospel of Christ and for not bowing to the Pope. This does not count the millions they have killed through their secret orders such as the Jesuits who work to infiltrate and subvert governments. During the time of the crusades and inquisition, the popes made up their own laws which still today are cannon. These are the same popes who murdered and tortured millions and satanicly molested children. I have studied the occult for thousands of hours. The Catholic Church is pure satanic Babylonian mysticism watered down and mixed with watered down Christianity. It was the Romans who had the power and were manipulated by the synagogues of Satan to crucify our Lord. Today the Vatican still has close ties to the synagogue of Satan. Protestantism is not the answer either. They all have false doctrines and teachings. Jesus Christ is the answer. Jesus said and man shall be taught by God. We cannot rely on man or traditions or teachings from the church but God first. Yes there are teachers but God comes first. Take everything to God through much prayer and fasting to know the truth. We must also be living righteous or God will not reveal the truth to us. Ask God is purgatory real? What is necromancy? Is praying to dead people biblical? Who is a saint according to the Bible. Is what I know in the Bible? How do I know what I know? Was I just taught by man or did God teach me? Who is the queen of heaven? Jeremiah 44. Why does the Vatican have an obelisk or an Egyptian phallus symbol or penis situated in front of the dome just as Washington DC? It is sex magick. Do we need a priest to act as a mediator? What does it mean the veil was torn when Jesus was crucified. What is born again mean? A little leaven, leveaneth the whole lump. The pope's title is Holy Father and Vicar of Christ which means replacement of Christ. The pope's mitre comes from Dagon. The list of damnable heresies goes on and on. I'm pleading with you Catholics, seek God with all your heart, then you will find him. Sincerely ask God over and over, praying with all your heart and fasting and repenting of your sins. Ask him if Catholicism is wrong. Even if it is just one doctrine. We must worship God in spirit and in truth. Sadly Catholics do not know the gospel. They don't understand why Jesus was crucified. They don't understand what being born again is. They don't know what baptism is. We are buried with Christ. Jesus said whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it and whoever loses his life will keep it. We are to die daily. When we are in the flesh, we are absent from the Lord. The Holy Spirit comes to live in us and it is only by the Spirit that we repent from ALL our sins and live righteously. We cannot do it on our own. But do not be deceived, sin is death and all sinners will burn in the lake of fire. There are either sinners or saints. Yes we have all sinned but if you continue living in sin, you will perish. There is no purgatory or praying for the dead. There is appointed once a man to die then the judgment. We are tried through the fire on earth like Job not in purgatory which is made up. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. He is the word of God and we must be filled with the Word. The Bible is the word of God but we must have God teach us. A friend of the world is an enemy of God. Love not the world neither the things in it, whoever loves the world does not have the love of the Father in them. Come to Jesus before it is too late. Repent of your sins and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit which comes with power. You shall cast out demons, heal the sick, speak with new tongues, prophecy, work miracles and much more.
@@Nathanh56 The Bible is a document of the Catholic church, do you know that?
@@Nathanh56 The crimes of Martin Luther and Henry VIII is worse than the crimes of Hitler and Stalin. Jesus established the Catholic church, do you know Jesus?
@@kelechukwuanosike767 when did I say Martin Luther was a good man? The Romans killed Jesus and now the Romans have their state church. Jesus did not establish the Catholic Church and the scriptures were written by holy men of God. It just so happened that the Catholic Church has the power to put the books in one place. The catechism written by the Roman Catholic Church goes against the scriptures
God bless all! And care from the rests of all Saints ever! 😇😇😇
Thank you for showing me a part of my Catholic culture
I hear you, Bishop Barron. I have had the privilege of looking upon with great awe the vocal chords and jawbone of St. Anthony in Padua.
I like your new multi-camera set-up - I tend to listen to your videos whilst looking at other things, this is a much better way of grabbing people's attention
Polycarp, Martyr and Bishop of Smyrna. The first known exemple of christian relics, i believe.
I think that if we only experience Good in history we are missing something. I don't have a lot of opinion on this, but feel that if the relics become the focus we put sticks in our eyes. Just MHO. Thanks for sharing.
Wow Just awesome! Just when I thought I knew everything there is to know about relics.. Bishop you really managed to open my eyes further! I love what you said " One of the best way to fight nazism is with those still impressive teehts of Saint Ambrose! Brilliant Bishop Barron , also could you explain the more hidden forms of gnosticism that still takes place in today 's faith ? God bless you and thank you !
Gnosticism* not "nazism"
It struck me, that it also demonstrates our faith in the resurrection. Otherwise, skeletons etc would be scary, but instead, they are holy and wonderful, because Christ lived, and will live again, in their bodies
Hi Bishop Barron. I love watching your videos. I was wondering if you could do a video on the topic of my favorite thinker, Soren Kierkegaard. I've been working my way through his journals and papers, and although he only mentions the Catholic church a few times, I was somewhat surprised to read that he was fairly sympathetic to it, especially with regards to the monastic tradition. Just the other day, I was reading a fascinating paper that reconciled Kierkegaard with Aquinas by explaining the differences between 'reason' in Aquinas' latin (rato) and Kierkegaard's danish (forstand). The paper even had a citation claiming that many people who study Kierkegaard end up by becoming Catholics. I would be very interested to hear what you would have to say on the matter, especially since Kierkegaard seems to be one of the only definitively Christian thinkers that is widely read and appreciated outside of Christian circles.
Really helpful
Thank you Bishop barron
It is a little creepy, but it is also extremely cool.
Speaking of teeth, A favorite movie of Pope Francis, "Babette's Feast" is a beautiful rebuttal against gnosticism
**spoiler alert**
It's about a poor French refugee woman who used to be the head chef of the finest restaurant in Paris, and gets taken in by a remote puritanical religious community with tight restrictions on what they eat/drink.
"In Paradise you will be the great artist that God meant you to be...Ah, how you will delight the angels!"
Bishop, I know you’ve done many videos, but have you ever done one about the ancient churches constructed with skulls and skeletons embedded in the walls? It’s creepy, but it demonstrates our ancient belief that Christ was victorious over death. I would love to see that! God bless!
I love being Catholic and recently went on a pilgrimage where I was able to see some relics for the first time. I couldn't help but feel weird about seeing body parts (St Theresa of Avilas finger, St Therese of Liseux s forearm and St Vincent de Paul's heart.) Seeing a complete body was a little better., but still not sure how i feel about it. Seeing St Therese of Liseux 's toys was fascinating and walking into some of the saints homes was very special.
Margot Bravo I was raised Catholic as well until I discovered it was satanic at its core. I read the words of Jesus and it changed my life. He said we must be born again to enter into the kingdom of heaven. I gave up everything for Jesus. I became a new creation and Jesus changed me. I could not do it but Jesus did when he came to live in me. The ROMAN Catholic Church makes Hitler and Stalin crimes look much smaller. 60 million Christians beaten, tortured, imprisoned, raped, and murdered for the gospel of Christ and for not bowing to the Pope. This does not count the millions they have killed through their secret orders such as the Jesuits who work to infiltrate and subvert governments. During the time of the crusades and inquisition, the popes made up their own laws which still today are cannon. These are the same popes who murdered and tortured millions and satanicly molested children. I have studied the occult for thousands of hours. The Catholic Church is pure satanic Babylonian mysticism watered down and mixed with watered down Christianity. It was the Romans who had the power and were manipulated by the synagogues of Satan to crucify our Lord. Today the Vatican still has close ties to the synagogue of Satan. Protestantism is not the answer either. They all have false doctrines and teachings. Jesus Christ is the answer. Jesus said and man shall be taught by God. We cannot rely on man or traditions or teachings from the church but God first. Yes there are teachers but God comes first. Take everything to God through much prayer and fasting to know the truth. We must also be living righteous or God will not reveal the truth to us. Ask God is purgatory real? What is necromancy? Is praying to dead people biblical? Who is a saint according to the Bible. Is what I know in the Bible? How do I know what I know? Was I just taught by man or did God teach me? Who is the queen of heaven? Jeremiah 44. Why does the Vatican have an obelisk or an Egyptian phallus symbol or penis situated in front of the dome just as Washington DC? It is sex magick. Do we need a priest to act as a mediator? What does it mean the veil was torn when Jesus was crucified. What is born again mean? A little leaven, leveaneth the whole lump. The pope's title is Holy Father and Vicar of Christ which means replacement of Christ. The pope's mitre comes from Dagon. The list of damnable heresies goes on and on. I'm pleading with you Catholics, seek God with all your heart, then you will find him. Sincerely ask God over and over, praying with all your heart and fasting and repenting of your sins. Ask him if Catholicism is wrong. Even if it is just one doctrine. We must worship God in spirit and in truth. Sadly Catholics do not know the gospel. They don't understand why Jesus was crucified. They don't understand what being born again is. They don't know what baptism is. We are buried with Christ. Jesus said whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it and whoever loses his life will keep it. We are to die daily. When we are in the flesh, we are absent from the Lord. The Holy Spirit comes to live in us and it is only by the Spirit that we repent from ALL our sins and live righteously. We cannot do it on our own. But do not be deceived, sin is death and all sinners will burn in the lake of fire. There are either sinners or saints. Yes we have all sinned but if you continue living in sin, you will perish. There is no purgatory or praying for the dead. There is appointed once a man to die then the judgment. We are tried through the fire on earth like Job not in purgatory which is made up. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. He is the word of God and we must be filled with the Word. The Bible is the word of God but we must have God teach us. A friend of the world is an enemy of God. Love not the world neither the things in it, whoever loves the world does not have the love of the Father in them. Come to Jesus before it is too late. Repent of your sins and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit which comes with power. You shall cast out demons, heal the sick, speak with new tongues, prophecy, work miracles and much more.
I love relics
after reading John Calvin's Treatise on Relics, I was somewhat disappointed:
"It is of no use to discuss the point whether it is right or wrong to have relics merely to keep them as precious objects without worshiping them, because experience proves that this is never the case."
He blows off the whole crux of the issue with a single sentence (the very issue I has hoping to have illuminated), and the rest of the treatise is basically a summary dismissal of relics based on their dubious authenticity (as if people weren't already aware that there were no three-headed apostles!).
The veneration of relics is seen in the account of Polycarp’s martyrdom written by the Smyrnaeans in A.D. 156. The Christians describe the events following his burning at the stake: "We took up his bones, which are more valuable than precious stones and finer than refined gold, and laid them in a suitable place, where the Lord will permit us to gather ourselves together, as we are able, in gladness and joy and to celebrate the birthday of his martyrdom."
Isn’t that true?
I totally agree with these points on the veneration of relics:
1. it is an ancient practice
2. it is in perfect harmony with "natural theology"
3. it stands in stark contrast with the anti-man/anti-body ideology of Gnosticism/Manichaeism
4. used properly, it can stimulate folks to piety and worship
Wait, are you saying that the Apostle Hydra isn't real? They say that when the Romans cut off his head, two grew in its place. Darn. Thanks for the revelation, Calvin.
I can see what you're saying about relics being a manifestation of the idea of the incarnation, but I struggle to see how displaying decaying bodies is a display of eternal life. I can see that people want to have a physical connection to that time. Relics that were not someone's body etc are less concerned with this decaying bodies. However the display of people... I am seeing that as a reminder of death, not resurrection.
Same here. And it doesn't seem that anyone really does get over the "creepiness". I would trust that intuition. Death is the sign of and punishment for our fallenness, and displaying dead bodies and bones seems to be an embracing of death itself. If you believe matter isn't evil, shouldn't that just amount to showing respect to the bodies as in respectfully burying them?
From St. Ambrose's skull, it should be possible for modern anthropologists to get a really good idea of what he actually looked like! Has that been done?
Thomas Aquinas said, "Since our soul has its being in corporeal matter, as long as we have life, it knows only what has a form in matter." (How God is known by us, XII, art. 11) Aquinas live in the 1200's and Ambrose in the 300's. I think they saw the soul and body as intimately related, and even after death the body was respected and reverenced, not worshiped. That is part of Catholic tradition, part of why, I suspect, for most of Catholic history bodies had to be buried intact in a consecrated cemetery and NOT cremated.
Fantastic teeth indeed.
Reverence. Sanctified. Holy. Distinct. Separate. Remembrance.
I will not speak of Thy Mysteries to Thy Enemies,
Nor will I give Thee a kiss as did Judas,
But like the Thief do I confess Thee,
Remember me O Lord in Thy Kingdom,
Remember me O Master in Thy Kingdom.
Remember me O Holy One in Thy Kingdom,
Thank you for showing the Holy and Great Saint Ambrose. He was greater than great.
5:50 Oooooh! I get it now.
I wonder if Ambrose would have considered it creepy.
Hi Tin Man Saint Ambrose is probably praying for us right now.. and no Saint Ambrose wouldn't have considered it creepy. Would you consider creepy the body, bones and blood of our Lord Jesus? We must understand that these relics belong to saints, that means that their faith has grown to the point of become one with the Lord,in mind, body and soul, not replacing the Lord but Holy like HIm, Holy because Jesus is Holy and that is what He asks of us, to become like Him...this happens, hopefully to all of us, usually happens after death, after a certain time spent in purification, called purgatory that enable us to enter heaven, and in purgatory we are already Holy souls as once there, we are sure to enter heaven. To enter heaven or to to become a saint is the same thing, and we need to be ready, and to be ready we must be pure , free from all that attaches us to whatever it is that pushes us away from God, away from our final destination, heaven. It takes great faith, love, but most of all persevering trust and hope in God to become a saint. Saint Ambrose body is no longer his body, in the sense of body remains, just as Jesus 's body was given to us onto the cross. Jesus was, as Bishop Barron once said a happy man on the cross, because He gave it all, body blood, water and soul. He did it and He knew that once He did that, mission would be accomplished for ever, that we would have been saved and the devil defeated for ever. By diying on the cross, Jesus took sin on Him, he become sin, he even looked like sin, He swallowed it all in His being and gave it to God and transformed it into love as God is Love and so is His son Jesus, and so are saints. Saints are not only emulating to be like Jesus they become like Him not in place of Jesus but at one with Him. This makes their lives and bodies pricelessly valued to the heart of the Church and to all hearts. Also this should answer the reasons why we hear of miracles when wearing a piece of cloth or holding a bone from a saint. Is not magic or superstition, or illusion just as resurrection is not magic or Illusion.
They put Jesus' body in a tomb. There's a pretty obvious reason for that since even saints don't usually rise again on the third day.
Hi Tin Man, well I am not sure what is that you are saying, here.. Jesus was free from sin so was his body wihtout sin and uncorrupted by sin, alhough disfigured by our sins He resurrected on the third day, so do we resurrect but we couldnot resurrect the same way Jesus did after three days, our blessed Lady was takn to heaven
but we could not... we are sinners yet we do resurrect at the estblished time and we will have a real new body phisical more real than the one we have today ! if we are saints we go straight to heaven if not we need purification. What matters is that we never die and the saints bodies here on earth as their clothing or close things to them are also holy. Jesus did not have a tomb it belonged to a friend, neighbour and it was given to him, He the Lord set an example for us all He emptied Himself infact he was naked when he died, he had no clothes, no grave, no savings, no home, a part from a last minute intervention by Joseph that gave him a tomb.. so my point is that We can't really compare Jesus burial to our human saints of today, Jesus was fully human but he was the Son of God ..hence His resurrection obviously would have beeen divinly spectacular beside He had to conform to the scriptures..hence he rose after three days .. But I don't understand your question .. really what is it that you are saying? That saints should be buried ? If yes I have to say that is going to be difficult if not impossible you mean buried out of vision to the world? It does not works like that for a Saint, as when dead become a even more wonferful proof of God divinity within man.. and that includes miracles of all sorts...saints are servants of God and of people and they know in their humility that when they die that their bodies as saints are ongoing miracles for anyone to witness.. and because they are at one with God, they are able to perform miracles, conversions, healings, profecies, miracles of all sorts just like Jesus did even after death if not more so . Behind all miracles and behind everything there is God , This is very important to understand, we have to have the humility to understand that sometimes things happens like the life of a Saint that just seems so crazy to the rational mind and the same with the death of a saint . They never age, they emanate beautuful perfume, they are a huge consolations to milions of pilgrims that wishes to pay their rispects that alone is a miracle in itself, take Padre Pio Saint Bernadette, the number is staggering ...Honestly is like buryng a live person because in many if not all cases they don't look a day older or an hour older that when they died . Imagine that, what a winderful and crazy gift from God . I know that Padre Pio would want follow the Church wishes...San Pio loved and continues to love all people and loves God and even now SAn Pio and all Saints love to help others and they will do so for ever I think.. to bury them would be unthinkable for now anyway ...In the end Jesus had to be buried for three days, He did so to fulfill the scripture, and to resurrect after three days to fulfill His Word and His promise. There is a natural life and there is the supernatural the life of the saints founded their whole of their lives on humility obedience poverty and chastity spending their days in prayer helping others with all their hearths and souls and bodies and mind just like Jesus.. It's almost impossible try to understand a supernatural event like the death of a saint with the eye and view of natural thinking..limited to the natural dynamic of this world. th-cam.com/video/GSCk0qs-2-M/w-d-xo.html
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Elena Durante > Ambrose has been dead for 16 centuries but if he'd died 16 days ago I doubt you'd want his "perfume" in the house - that's why tombs.
Great vid!
I felt bad when I read that they took relics from Saint Bernadette's body. I thought it was disrespectful to cut into her. Leave her alone was in my mind.
I love the scenes in Silence where they're having mass in shacks or on the beach. It's so pure. I understand the rationale for the materialism in Catholicism, but I also think there's way too much of it.
I'm catholic, but still I don't like the reverence that I have seen from many people to those relics (someones even rub their hands over the glass of the showcases and then passes their hands over their own bodies), I think they are interesting in the same sense that articles in a museum are interesting, so I don't see anything wrong with showing them either.
I didn't know about the use of the relics against that belief that everything from the corpse is wrong, so probably it had a good use, but that made me wonder: really today's Church doesn't have anything better to fight that kind of misconceptions?, now when so many people can read and with this interconnected world I think there are ways to deliver the message more directly.
luis enrique vargas azcona The practice of touching and rubbing is cultural. Mostly Asian Catholics do that. It's not irreverence but love. I can touch you and smell you and drink from your cup and take a bite out of your sandwich and use your handkerchief, etc. In other words I can make you part of myself and vice versa because you are not different from me.
Go to Latin America and some developing countries, many people can't read. The practice of venerating relics must continue . It is a continuation of the incarnation
The Catholic church must not do everything you like. You are not God. We do what God likes and not what you like. You have to conform your self to God for you to be a good Catholic
I'm a bit puzzled here...isn't the Gnostic Heresy, for all intents and purposes, dead and buried?
Absolutely not!
I'm not convinced that the many people going gaga over the Nag Hammadi texts is anything more than a fad, but I base that entirely on anecdotal evidence.
Even when is not explicitly called "gnostic", the idea that everything related to the body is bad is very frequent. There is also a movement that calls itself "gnostic" but has nothing to do with the original gnostics. Also, I have seen a lot of influences from the old gnostic tales in pop media, specifically, the idea of the evil demiurge is frequently used as a straw man to attack all abrahamic religions.
The entire debate over Our Lady being the Mother of God goes back to the Nestorian Heresy of more than 1500 years ago.
luis enrique vargas azcona
Might as well call St. Paul a gnostic then.
Is this not prevalent in pre Christian religious beliefs?
Recently, I heard that relics transmit the grace of God to those who touch or are physically present to them. First, is that true? I would postulate that it is true because of the ancient tradition (pilgrimages and veneration). Otherwise they are just "exhibit A" for theological discussion and a fascination of the mind. Second, if they transmit the grace of God, to what degree ought we to avail ourselves to them? In other words, what's their potency to free one from sin to more fully experience God? Thirdly, regardless of potency, clearly the Eucharist is the Body of Christ, which we consume and venerate, so why go to another source of divine grace other than the sacraments themselves? Fourthly, if God is omnipresent, then what prevents the individual from fully experiencing God is identification to sin that close the mind from the experience. Therefore, awakening the mind (repentance of sin), is necessary to experience divinity more fully. So regardless of whether it is the Eucharist, a sacrament, or a sacramental, the first step to growing in holiness is to become aware of one's sinfulness (how we are identified with sin), otherwise, the power of grace is present but we are not open to it, we can't even see it, unless of course, God miraculously breaks through our spiritual blindness. Therefore, spiritual practice of repentance must first be established before making a pilgrimage to a relic or reception of the Sacrament. Bishop Barron, what are your thoughts?
Another reason why we need to keep sacred relics is they act as evidence. A saint becomes more real when their bones, belongings, etc. are in front of us. Plus, relics are proof those saints are Catholic.
Interesting.
PS: Speaking of the Church "going out": I would love to see ALL church going people join together and march down the most crime infested streets or Main street or whatever, EVERY Sunday after services and then ALL gather in a park for food (physical and spiritual) to discuss how they and their city and their world is getting better day by day.
Of course today in our USA you would have to have armed guards dressed in costumes to wave at the children but protect the gatherings. Good far outnumber the evil but the evil are 99% of the news thus appear to be much more massive than they really are. Make being spiritual, Good, Goodly ,,, PC again, the direction the crowd is running in and not from.
I am a product of the USA 1950s and remember when children going out alone all day was the norm and safe. Just be home by dark. Today parents would have their children taken away for neglect (or kidnapped or murdered) in most of our "modern" American cities of today. Nothing stands still, all things either grow or decay. If good grows, evil will decay or visa versa. ..
I have read that according to statistics the crime in USA have been decreasing through the decades. So the media make seem everything like more and more dangerous, even when that isn't true; or maybe people the decrease in crime is consequence of people getting more afraid of it and in consequence, being more cautious.
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Christ says “the flesh profiteth nothing”
Padre this seems like a lot of hoops to jump to explain the reverence of death. I remember the story of the possessed man that greeted Jesus when he arrived with the Garasenes. The possessed man lived in the tombs surrounded by death and this contributed to his condition. Seems wrong I my heart.
Catholic obsession with
Dead bodys is disturbing
So I have a question. I thought the bodies of saints were incorruptible. If that is the case how are St. Ambrose's remains decayed to the skeleton? Is that not the case?
Alexis Flores Only a handful of the saints are incorruptible.
Bishop Robert Barron oh thank you I didn't know that!
I just entered the church this April so I am still learning a lot lol.
I do! haha
That is a very good explanation. Makes sense but forgets to take into account how relics were/are treated as commodities capable of "granting" wishes (mind you St. Mark's remains were smuggled into Venice from Alexandria just so the "it" city could have a famous patron), which sits squarely opposite to the no idolatry rule. The Virgin Mary presents the exact same problem. What you call gnosticism, for some of us, is adherence to the capital rule of ONE TRUE GOD. I don't believe the Father, or the Son for that matter, needs intermediaries. And you have to wonder, why the bodies of both Jesus Christ and Mary were ascended to Heaven along with their souls? The duality was never a gnostic preocupation but a very catholic one.
i’ve kissed the crown of christ in france.
And when you say ancient church do you mean ancient Rome? And do you believe that the popes the vicor of christ
Just because something is ancient doesn't mean it's right.
Just because something is modern doesn't mean it's right or progressive either.
It's still weird,and I believe we all have this heaven and hell thing all wrong. After the firsthand 42m3seadch I've done.
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Act 19: God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.
Good teeth are common from the ecclesiastical burials ive worked on, they ate better , good meat plenty of fruit & fish .
Unlike what the poor had to eat , gruel & pottage 😣
Kev Caratacus Very true! It is why Neolithic skulls usually show very strong teeth - no sugar = no rot :)
Are this biblical or tradition..?
I would say tradition ...but part of the memory of what has gone before in faith. While I admire Newman, I would not go along with him on this, neither would I go with the sacramental/incarnational link adduced here. I would lean to the memory of those who have gone before in the Apostolic tradition.
Playing with relics is BLOOD MAGIC..
Do as you please, but be pleased with what you do!!
Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When
they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel,
and will rule over all."
3 Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) imperial rule
is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you,
'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's)
imperial rule is inside you and outside you. When you know yourselves, then
you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living
Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you
are the poverty."
4 Jesus said, "The person old in days won't hesitate to ask a little child
seven days old about the place of life, and that person will live. For many of
the first will be last, and will become a single one."
5 Jesus said, "Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you
will be disclosed to you. For there is nothing hidden that won't be revealed."
6 His disciples asked him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How should
we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe?"
Jesus said, "Don't lie, and don't do what you hate, because all things are
disclosed before heaven. After all, there is nothing hidden that will not be
revealed, and there is nothing covered up that will remain undisclosed."
Man dog BIBLE VERSE PLEASE. Oh!!!! I get it, it's not in the bible!!! But... wait.... why didn't you give the source? After all, giving the source is just standard when citing Jesus right? Which gospel?! Ooohhhhhh!!!! You took this from the "gospel of Thomas" from Gnostism! I seeeee.......
I respect you and the Catholic Church a lot, I just don’t think that presenting body parts of saints to the public is respectful to them being image bearers and therefore to God himself. There is a reason for why bones are hidden under flesh. It is the way God wanted them to be. Just like our body should one day be buried underground. Thank you though for your videos!
Psalm 115:4-8 ESV
Their idols are silver and gold, the work of human hands. [5] They have mouths, but do not speak; eyes, but do not see. [6] They have ears, but do not hear; noses, but do not smell. [7] They have hands, but do not feel; feet, but do not walk; and they do not make a sound in their throat. [8] Those who make them become like them; so do all who trust in them.
YES this absolutly applies to statues, icons and relics. Anything NOT ALIVE!!! Be VERY careful. Fear the Lord above all. Not your church.
Relics are great historically enlightening things, and good to have, but the catholics attribute far too much power to them. Maybe not so much now, but reliquaries in the past were blatantly idolatrous.
Fuckboi and Lavacunt Read 2 Kings about Elisha’s bones raising a man from the dead.
Oooo, yuck.
Did Jesus kept & worship the old bones of Saint Moses, Saint David, Saint Solomon or Saint Abraham? No Jesus never did such evil and pagan ways.
Do you know and have evidence of everything Jesus Christ did?
John 21, Jesus tells us that the Bible is incomplete
Um, no, because the idea of sainthood didn't exist until Jesus Himself established the Catholic Church, entrusting to the divinely-inspired Church the process of canonisation.
@@AJWRAJWRYou do know that Jesus Christ never heard the word "Catholic" all his life, right?
@@Model3GenerativeANdroid Yeah, I know. The name wasn't coined until after his death. The Catholic Church is still the same unbroken apostolic succession established by Him.
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These relics are nothing but false idols. God says the dead are asleep waiting judgment the return of Jesus chirst my lord amd savior
If he is a saint then why did his body decompose ?
All except his teeth.
UNBIBLICAL!
Nonsense! Relics reflect the deep incarnational sensibility of the Bible.
I like part he's admiring the saints' 😂good set of teeth.
Roman Catholic Church: the only church that willingly keeps a REAL HUMAN SKELETON on display, and calls it a pilgrimage rite to see it. 🙄.
buba426 You’re probably just not used to seeing these types of relics. It is a bit strange, but I know from reading 2 Kings that Elisha’s bones raised a man from the dead.
Wirte that down
Read Exodus 20:4-5........Satan is way more ingenious nd powerful to be shaken by so called holy items or relics 🤣😂
Only faith in Jesus Christ himself not material items
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First of all, I appreciate these videos for the insight Bishop Barron gives on truly Catholic teaching.
But the reason for Protestant iconoclasm isn't Gnosticism or disgust with bones. Devotion to relics has (throughout the centuries) been a superstitious replacement of devotion to the Living God. A few years ago I visited Montserrat monastery near Barcelona, site of the black-faced Madonna. From what I recall the tradition is to touch the orb that this statue holds in her hand. The line stretched out the door. I suppose people do this so they'll have good luck or God will bless them in some way. This is idolatry and it leads people away from a vibrant, direct relationship with the Lord through Jesus Christ.
Pure preaching of the Gospel and administration of the sacraments is enough for correcting Gnosticism.
Mark, that's too reductive a view. Sure, there might be some people who approach a statue or a relic in a superstitious spirit. But Catholic teaching is eminently clear on this score: these things serve an iconic function, the physical speaking of the spiritual. Paul himself said that Jesus is the "icon of the invisible God."
How many alter boys have you given pastoral love to? You are all suspect
It's idol worship and needs to stop !
you bishop u are defending mothing saint there rather demonish rituals u performed
Necrophilia has nothing to do with believing in God and Christ.
Necrophilia is sex with a corpse.
WOW! If I were a Gnostic that would be the end of me!
Tell me Bishop, do you just gobble up everything Newman says and then present it to us as an obvious fact?
Fighting Gnosticism with relics of St. Ambrose, that's a good one.
Looks like Henry Newman is just making up stuff to explain stuff, that's all.
The Catholics used relics partly to combat the ideology of gnosticism. What's so unbelievable about that? It's a historical fact. Why be so sarcastic?
@@AJWRAJWR I don’t remember what that was about but I still know Catholicism is not Christianity.
@@thomasanderson1416 The Catholics created Christianity. Shows how ignorant you are of history.
On the one hand, relics are, objectively, ASTHETIC, on the other we find no solid basis for them in the Bible. It's a beautiful tradition, but a tradition of human origin.
Why so many saints?
Catholicism is the Christian form of polytheism. You’re giving Hinduism a good run for their money. 🙏
We don’t worship Saints, we honor them as God’s servants.
PROTS LOVE EXCARNATIONIAL CHRISTIANITY. FOR PROTS, THE HUMAN IS JUST A BRAIN ON A STICK THAT TAKES IN PROPOSITIONAL BELIEFS.
First: There isn't anything or anywhere in the whole Bible that says, Mary is the Queen of heaven.
Second: Jesus Christ is God, Lord and King of Heaven and Earth, King of the living and the dead who will be raised up on the day of his second coming to live with him eternal life.
Third: The Queen is the Church that includes all the true believers in the Old Testament, and the true believers and followers of Jesus Christ, who are saved and sealed by the Holy Spirit for eternal life.
Fourth: The Twelve stars are the twelve sons of Jacob, representing the Church by flesh in the Old Testament, and the twelve Disciples of Jesus, representing the Church by the Spirit in the New Testament.
Therefore you have the 24 Elders around the throne of God in the book of Revelation. And the Queen the Church is clothed with the Sun = The true light of Jesus Christ, and the Moon under her feet. The Moon is not the true light, its every Heresy including Catholicism which is the biggest Heresy and Pagan Idol Worshipping Roman Religion. EXAMPLE,,,, Praying to Mary and repeating what Angel Gabriel told her 70 times a day using the Rosary?. and praying to dead Saints?.
Matthew 6:7 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
7 “And in praying do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do; for they think that they will be heard for their many words.
Try Revelation 12
I cannot tell you how utter weird, creepy, and just downright bizarre this when "relic' thing is!! UGH!🙄--Seriourly, who DOES that?? You Rock Catholics are off the rails!-- YUCK! 😐😐😐
L C Ringo I was raised Catholic as well until I discovered it was satanic at its core. I read the words of Jesus and it changed my life. He said we must be born again to enter into the kingdom of heaven. I gave up everything for Jesus. I became a new creation and Jesus changed me. I could not do it but Jesus did when he came to live in me. The ROMAN Catholic Church makes Hitler and Stalin crimes look much smaller. 60 million Christians beaten, tortured, imprisoned, raped, and murdered for the gospel of Christ and for not bowing to the Pope. This does not count the millions they have killed through their secret orders such as the Jesuits who work to infiltrate and subvert governments. During the time of the crusades and inquisition, the popes made up their own laws which still today are cannon. These are the same popes who murdered and tortured millions and satanicly molested children. I have studied the occult for thousands of hours. The Catholic Church is pure satanic Babylonian mysticism watered down and mixed with watered down Christianity. It was the Romans who had the power and were manipulated by the synagogues of Satan to crucify our Lord. Today the Vatican still has close ties to the synagogue of Satan. Protestantism is not the answer either. They all have false doctrines and teachings. Jesus Christ is the answer. Jesus said and man shall be taught by God. We cannot rely on man or traditions or teachings from the church but God first. Yes there are teachers but God comes first. Take everything to God through much prayer and fasting to know the truth. We must also be living righteous or God will not reveal the truth to us. Ask God is purgatory real? What is necromancy? Is praying to dead people biblical? Who is a saint according to the Bible. Is what I know in the Bible? How do I know what I know? Was I just taught by man or did God teach me? Who is the queen of heaven? Jeremiah 44. Why does the Vatican have an obelisk or an Egyptian phallus symbol or penis situated in front of the dome just as Washington DC? It is sex magick. Do we need a priest to act as a mediator? What does it mean the veil was torn when Jesus was crucified. What is born again mean? A little leaven, leveaneth the whole lump. The pope's title is Holy Father and Vicar of Christ which means replacement of Christ. The pope's mitre comes from Dagon. The list of damnable heresies goes on and on. I'm pleading with you Catholics, seek God with all your heart, then you will find him. Sincerely ask God over and over, praying with all your heart and fasting and repenting of your sins. Ask him if Catholicism is wrong. Even if it is just one doctrine. We must worship God in spirit and in truth. Sadly Catholics do not know the gospel. They don't understand why Jesus was crucified. They don't understand what being born again is. They don't know what baptism is. We are buried with Christ. Jesus said whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it and whoever loses his life will keep it. We are to die daily. When we are in the flesh, we are absent from the Lord. The Holy Spirit comes to live in us and it is only by the Spirit that we repent from ALL our sins and live righteously. We cannot do it on our own. But do not be deceived, sin is death and all sinners will burn in the lake of fire. There are either sinners or saints. Yes we have all sinned but if you continue living in sin, you will perish. There is no purgatory or praying for the dead. There is appointed once a man to die then the judgment. We are tried through the fire on earth like Job not in purgatory which is made up. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. He is the word of God and we must be filled with the Word. The Bible is the word of God but we must have God teach us. A friend of the world is an enemy of God. Love not the world neither the things in it, whoever loves the world does not have the love of the Father in them. Come to Jesus before it is too late. Repent of your sins and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit which comes with power. You shall cast out demons, heal the sick, speak with new tongues, prophecy, work miracles and much more.