Splitting a 24" Sprocket in the Shaper
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 เม.ย. 2018
- Another sprocket job that I have shown before, but this time I get to use the G&E shaper to cut it in half in one shot!
I'll show setting up the table, setting up and clamping the sprocket down, grinding the tool bit, and the machining.
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Imagine if I told you 5 years ago you'd have a separate shop with new CNC machines, time flies
I don't come to theses videos to see the fastest way to do something, I come to these videos because I like watching you have fun doing something you're really good at.
Thank you!
@@Abom79 same abom
That "this old tony" reference was gold. LoL
Adam buddy,,, if you made a half hour video of using the shaper to cut a grilled cheese,,, I'd watch it.
Here here!
Don't apologise to anybody about how you do any work ...
it your shop and your new TOY and you want to play with it ... just go for it ...
from an OLD guy
Came here to say the same thing. He's infectiously happy working with it
So nice to scroll down and see a positive-only comment section! A rare thing on youtube these days.
South Scandinavia checking in ;)
Love this video. Cant help think of what This Old Tony said "as the saying goes 'the only thing you can't make with a shaper is a profit'"
Nice job Adam I'm a old school machinist haven't used a shaper since vocational school I just started watching your videos good stuff way more interesting than some CNC machine spitting a dam part out. I'm the maintenance machinist for Zildjian the cymbal maker it's the oldest family owned businesses in the country been around for 400 yrs so we still do it old school can definitely appreciate the work you do Adam looking forward to more videos.
I love the old shapers. There Are several Different ways I can drive to a destination but sometimes I like to take the scenic route. Life isn't always about getting there the fastest way but having fun on the trip to your destination. I agree totally with you Brother. One thing I have learned as a youtuber is to just laugh at some of the crazy comments I get from viewers. If I let the comments section upset me I would not be a very happy person. All youtubers go through the same thing with the comments section from viewers. I wont let anyone steal my happiness. Thanks so much for being one of my favorite channels to watch.
"It's about the application of doing something on the machine." And that's a big part of why you are just as fine a craftsman as you are, Adam. Props, and thanks for all the great videos.
i love the sound the cutting tool makes when it is peeling off the oily metal with some little smoke clouds. also the relaxed "breathing" sound the machine makes is very satisfying.
I’m not a machinist- never even seen a shaper outside of your videos but man… I’m sharing in your pleasure of a beautiful job well done. Thanks for sharing Adam. Please keep up the great content
Way better than with a saw or torch. Thank you for taking the time to show us this stuff!
If your having fun, the who cares if there’s a “faster” way. Beautiful work there Adam👍👍👍
That's great Adam. Far better than a band saw. Keep those chips flying!!
I never thought that I would ever see a shaper doing an actual job in the year 2018 - what a blast from the past - thank you Adam
Great video Abom! I think it's easy for people to forget the purpose of these home shop videos. Unlike you work videos, where its about efficiency, your home shop videos are all about enjoying yourself.
Keep up the great work. Nice to see you start putting the shaper to work!
Excellent video, I always appreciate your "thinking out loud" when you're working on and setting up a project. I'm not a machinist but I learn something valuable with everyone of your videos. Keep up the good work!
you can make anything with a shaper except a profit
great job, really enjoyed watching it!
the mounted shot was really satisfying, what a creative way to film the action.
"This is all stuff that was my Dad's" - gave me goose bumps. I've one son, doing very well (I'm super proud of him, we're best mates), and all of my gear (some 50 yrs old) will be his one day.
I only watch genuine interesting videos all the way through. Yours - 100% . Thank you.
I dunno about the rest of you but I could watch that for hours and not get bored...
Adam, Congratulations on your first job with the G&E
Holy Crap. You did a number on that shaper. It's working like a charm.
“This is not about showing you the fast way to do it (a cut, in this case)! it's about the application on doing something on the machine".
I think this explains the reason of these astonishing videos of Adam in the first place. Plus, clearly, the fact that he is actually enjoying so much in working (and recording videos!). Not so difficult to get, as long as I can tell.
Lucky him that has got time, and possibilities. I'd like to spend time in his "shop" just watching live, but too bad I live in Italy (too bad indeed! 😅)
So, again, thank you for sharing, Mister Adam!
It's not the destination, it's the journey. Good job getting there!
"Heck, we could probably even use This old Tony's method and Judo-chop it in half if we wanted to."
Made my day.
6:51 Abom traverses the table from left to right; indicator doesn't move 1 millionths of an inch..."Hey, that's close enough to write home about!"
Says a lot about the man's precision....
a true craftsman takes pleasure in his work. not everyone chooses to do the fastest job possible with the least amount of effort.. good on you Adam!
Adam, I really enjoyed your shaper series of videos, solid job. Just want to say it, you understand the ballance between video quality-presentation and talk(Perspectively which experience brings along), your videos are 100% pleasure to watch.
You tell them Adam .... what's the point in having all the toys and no play time . I'm the same in my little shop ,I do stuff that could be cut or ground quicker but I chose to do it my way (the fun way) . It's not about how fast you can do something in a home shop ,your shop is more kinda business/pleasure . At the end of the day you've built up your shop and it's totally up to you how you use it ...no one elses business . Great video ... The G&E is a fantastically well made machine .
Sean
This was amazing Adam your 70 years old machine was quality and precise give yourself a beer, I just enjoy watching you work with steel amazing.
Thanks for taking the time for showing alternate ways of doing things and taking the time to explain them. For those offering alternate ways of getting the job done faster or better, have they not noticed you are not asking for help and that your channel is one of the most popular of its type? Maybe they can start their own channel and show us *their* method instead at their own expense? And in doing so, keeping the same well thought out angles of video and narration all done with humility. We're all waiting ...
I shoot a lot of antique rifles for fun. There are better, easier ways out there to hit a target, but that's not the point. It's the process of learning about each individual rifle and its ammunition that is the draw for me. What I am getting at is that I understand why you're so dedicated to the shaper and getting it operational and I think that the videos documenting this process are far and away the best content you've produced. I'm not a machinist, so learning about the shaper and its uses has been fascinating to me.
I’m an ex office worker (computer programmer) but used to love making stuff. Unfortunately disability has stopped that for me. Watching Abom work on old machines that he has rebuilt is so darn relaxing.
John Hanton has
I like the show & what ever direction Adam takes; I like watching the shaper. CNC is cool but that’s not the way I learned my trade. That’s why I love Adam’s channel, he brings back great memories because now I’m retired.😎
Fishing isn't always about catching fish. I'm not a machinist but I always enjoy watching your channel 👍🏴🇬🇧😎
Man I love shapers..... poetry in motion...
Sometimes, it's not about how easy something can be done, it's about how nicely and precisely it can be done. Well done for choosing the slower, but better way!
Also, that shot starting at 23:02.... excellent....
Before you know it you'll be cutting pepperoni pizza with that thing.
Man what a beautiful machine.
Without a doubt this baby has found itself in the right hands.
Like a piece of fine art or collectable car, consider yourself another custodian in the long lineage of this venerable creation
I agree completely with your comments at the start Adam - it's not about doing things the quickest way, it's about the craftsmanship and enjoying the process. I've only recently found your channel because it was plugged by Scott at Essential Craftsman. I'm an ex-aircraft maintenance engineer and gunnie, and I really enjoy seeing you maintaining, fixing and using these old machines. You like doing it, and we like watching. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Andrew 👍🏻
I really like when he said "I enjoy using my machinery to make this cut." This is a good example for a great worker.
Kudos for the "This Old Tony karate chop" reference!
camera attached to shaper is the money shot!
It really is nice to see machinist Building something. I love it specially when they build precision tools. Just love it. Thank's for sharing....
Adam, I don't know if you noticed, but your face was smiling almost the whole time watching that cut. It's got to feel rewarding after all that work to get it where it's at. Congrats on the G&E.
Way, way back in time, TV programmes here in England had long gaps between them. (No such thing as adverts or info-mercials, especially on the BBC.) The spaces were filled either by a continuity announcer with a voice like the Queen telling you what was coming next, or by gentle music and some kind of film footage aimed at keeping viewers interested, but not get them over-stimulated. They'd have windmills or cloth-weaving or an artist painting watercolours (in black and white!) but the most famous/popular film was of a potter's wheel. Just some extreme close-up footage of wet clay and thumbs and fingers and a wheel going round and round and round... Hypnotic. It was both relaxing and fascinating seeing the pot take shape. They could have used your shaper, Adam. :-) "And coming up next on BBC2: the evening news. But first - a cool American dude in a machine shop..."
I was too busy listening to the light programme... ;-) I wish we could go back to those simple days without all the commercialism!
Here is why you use the shaper: because too many people believe that machinist are people that know how to turn on the machine and make it go into motion. We have too many of those people around. I see CNC operators every day who think they are machinists. However, what a machinist really is is someone who solves problems. You may not have every single machine you want and you have to train yourself and be aware of several different ways to achieve the same output. That is why you use the shaper. I’m 51 years old and I can remember back in the day when there were dozens of Warner & Swasey set-up jobs in the newspaper. That’s the guy that made the money. You have to teach yourself new set up’s all the time. Its fun. Its cool. And you get a real appreciation for what old time machinist dealt with and how they handle problems. From what I’ve seen is that guys that have that manual machining background are ahead of the game as problem solver‘s.
That’s why you use the shaper.
What is a shaper generally used for? Basically what he did here or what?
blindabinda123 - my experience using shapers was hogging out cast iron castings. The surface scale is very hard. Rotary tools get dull quick. Shapers can get deep under the scale. But you can also make big keyways without a broaching set up. Splines. Spur gear teeth. Dovetails.
When i was a young machinist though we used them when we needed a powerful tool. POW POW POW! Its cool!
@@timothyduzenski1386 Oh nice. I didn't Even think about gear cutting
a cnc machine is a whole different set of problems to solve on top of all of the old problems to solve.
I found the motion of the shaper to be very relaxing! Much better than a band-saw or plasma cutter. It has renewed my faith in the world knowing that there a people like you who know their trade so well and take pride in doing high-quality work. Thanks so much for taking the time to document your process and share it with us. As a young engineer myself, it is very valuable to see the thought and effort that goes into machining parts.
I fell in love with the shaper in 1983 building my mill stop in high school. Love the hiss of the cut and the power of the ram!
love your attitude and enjoyment of machining!!!
I love how excited you get about your projects
Apart from his amazing skill with the machines he is a great presenter. He has just the right touch and personality for this.
Adam, I enjoy all your videos. I am a teacher. I am often interested in why people make the choices they do, so keep in mind that if someone asks why you didn’t do it this way or that, it is not necessarily a criticism of the way you chose to do something. Making decisions on how to problem solve a machining process by applying the use of different tools to similar job tasks gives people insight into how they could accomplish a similar task in their own shop. Keep up the good work and excellent videos. Thank you!
Yes your right. In my case, in past videos, many guys said “why waste you time doing that? Just plasma it or bandsaw” I try to explain my actions an why I do what I do.
Awesome! but I STILL want to see a ABOM79 sized This Old Tony Karate chop!
I love your shaper.
Yes, you were right - that was way more fun than a bandsaw or plasma. I loved that bit where you hooked up the camera to the machine itself - that was glorious.
Very satisfying to look at. :-)
At about 20:00 in you declare "oh man, that is beautiful!" I can't tell you how many times I utter this same phrase after seeing all my setup efforts come together in a successful cutting operation. It's nice to see others with the same passion!
Abom has such an understanding of equipment guys his skill sets are above and beyond he shows how the old school machine done their job yes cnc does have its place for speed but he does show how old school did it gets it right and the pleasure and satisfaction you get out of that is in indescribable
the gopro shot on the ram was awesome I loved it
"Why use the shaper to split a sprocket?"
Abom79 "Because I CAN!"
Lol... The This Old Tony karate-chop method.
Personally I find it a bit strenuous, but a lifesaver when there is no other option
Some people don’t understand that sometimes a man just has to take the long way around. I love it man!
Most enjoyable watch. Love the enthusiasm. Refreshing in these days of transient attention!
What a great old machine! I, too, still use my Dad's tools -- fifty years after his death. (Mostly hand tools ... nothing like the setup you have.)
Please do the This old Tony method for the next one! :D
Adam, I absolutely love watching this old machine work. As an old (70's-80's) automotive machinist/engine builder, I do appreciate the old machines we used back then. CNC is cool, but there is something special about hands on machining. Recently picked up an old Southbend Heavy 10... and have such a craving/need to machine again.
I'm jealous. Make some chips for me. Thanks!
dude i was telling my dad about you today! hes impressed as well as i am i would love to attain the skills you have! much respect man!!!!!!!!!! loved the 9 inch spindle for the gearbox
Me and my OCD appreciate your precision. Good work sir.
As a fairly recently graduated student of engineering in the Netherlands, I had no idea these machines existed. It's a wonderfull thing, appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos! Very educational.
Old Machine's ,they love it when someone like you brings them back to life ...Your Dad and His Dad made a good living using those things.. Thanks.. Texas
That table tram and the cutting was awesome!
ATB, Robin
That was so satisfying to watch!
Thanks for sharing Adam.
And please keep them vidios coming!
Wow! That turned out way better than I expected. This is the way things were done during the turn of the century. Totally awesome to still see it practiced today. Great video Adam, thank you!
I don’t know anything about machining but I really enjoy watching your vides and seeing how meticulous you are.
same here it is just sooo interesting keep it up Adam m8
Pretty excited about cutting it??? You were practically dancing in that intro... ;-)
That did turn out very well and I enjoyed watching it. Thanks
In the beginning with your "disclaimer", that was just a nice way of saying " If you don't like the way I'm going to use my machine, ya'll can just bite me" LOL
Jeff
JRD77VET It’s still amusing thinking back to the previous videos and the comments on “why not just...”
Exactly.
Geez... ya got gadgets for every conceivable situation... or can make them..... I love how, over the years, you've been giving more and more info as you go - like a clinic rather than a demonstration. I've never done any serious machine work, but I can easily follow right along as you work. Thank you.
A great machine becomes a beautiful, giant, super precise one-tooth saw. The most fun part must be setting it. Great video
your best video yet. the first time a saw one of your videos
and the way your hands danced across the controls, I knew
you were experienced. Thank you for the great videos and
giving me more knowledge and an understanding about
machining. Please lose more weight, it is tough, I know.
I really love the videos at work with the heavy machining
and I just want to say THANK YOU.
Watching that was fantastic! What a brilliant old lady she is! Adam you have an affinity with these old machines and can really make them sing! I have only just found your channel but have subscribed already. It's a pleasure to watch you work sir! So greetings from here in the United Kingdom, have a happy Christmas 2018 and a prosperous 2019 !
You should put a small metel box at the back of the stroke that holds cutting oil...find some bristles or some wicking material that will obsorb the oil up into itself so every time the tool head retracts the end of the cutting tool gets oiled...great job ...nice machine
A month after starting a new job, I was swiveling the head of an old " bridgeport knockoff " mill. I moved it about 2/3 the angle I needed when the mill head suddenly swung onto machine table. Luckly there was a timber board on the table. That's when a co-worker decided to tell me the gear rack was broken. Always check / lesson learned.
Hi Adam , I'm a recent viewer.
You're a great instructor , cameraman and editor .keep up the good work !
Does anyone else find the sound of the clapper box soothing lol.
The very first "real job" just proved how good a job *you* did in reconditioning that gorgeous old shaper. Hats off to ya, Adam!
you are an inspiration to go way more exact than the job might require. If you're gona do something, do it right. coming from a job where a tenth meant a tenth of an inch, at my new job you are inspiring me to go above and beyond (within reason) to do stuff much more accurately even if the tolerances asked for aren't required.
Your job, your rules. Screw all the armchair machinists who comment on videos throwing their "experience" around. Everyone seems to be an expert on the internet.
Damn shame you have to explain things, because people trolling and critiquing what you're doing. I love all your videos and can't wait for more! You have a great sense of detail, and process. And it's really cool to see old tools going again.
"Travelling the camera" and the cutting tool was REALLY COOL ! To see up close and in line/motion with the tool was unique. It should be your SIGNATURE SHOT !!
I was thinking the same thing! Very pleasing shot.
In the language of my elders a joy to behold and a clean job, thank you for this slice of life.
Great to see this shaper setup and running. Just to have this equipment still saved and put to use is amazing.
Very cool use of a classic machine.
The sound of the gears when it cuts is so smooth. Thats a quality machine.
You more than any other TH-cam channel have mastered the art of "Show don't tell" Just a fantastic video. Oh and you make your job look easy.
Man I noticed you had lost weight in a few of the most recent SNS videos, but it's REALLY evident watching an older video, even only a few months. Congrats on the successful weight loss, sir!
you didn't say why you are splitting the sprocket?
I only have an Atlas Craftsman 7B shaper, but it is my favorite tool to use in the shop. You’re dead on in your appraisal that there may be faster ways to do things, but the shaper is the most FUN way to do things! Many times I could’ve set up my mill and used an expensive end mill to cut something, but for about 50 cents worth of HSS I can do the same job and watch those sizzling blue chips fly instead! That G&E is a beauty as well. Congrats, and keep the videos coming!
John W.
Camp Verde, AZ
Adam everything you do in your shop is educational and fun to watch and it shows what kind of a professional skilled machinist you are! Keep up the great videos.
Eric
Yes they are faster ways. But not cooler! That power down feed is the way to go! All in one go on the big shaper, no need to flip like with the old shaper.
I’m enjoying this big boy shaper much more then the Sheldon. 👍🏻
Lol... loved the This Ole Tony method. Hell... I could chop it in half with a bandsaw. I want to see it machined apart :D I just started watching and I already like this video...
I love the shaper and your "slow" work -it pays out in the end ( Old danish quote )
This brings back so many memories. Last time I used a shaper was about 45 years ago! Guess the modern day methods do the same job, but cheaper ? :) Keep it up Big Guy!