It’s a great contribution to John Danaher’s project dedicated to developing a top notch standing game specifically for the context of BJJ tournament rule set! Thank you very much for the video!💜
always appreciate this stuff. well shown/described from different angles-- explains logic/functional applications. just all good stuff. thank you, Sir!
You still want a control on that side of the body right? And I guess sleeve is a better defensive grip than lapel against counter grips. And you can arm drag with it.
@@maxikozie Double lapel and cross collar are stronger defensive grips than collar and sleeve and both generate better Kizushi via snapdowns and lapel drags for the throws mentioned. In the case of Aiyutsu Kumi Kata, the sleeve is only really necessary to generate back exposure and control the arm for an ippon score - which doesn't exist in Jui Jitsu. I am not saying it is wrong by any means, but I don't really see the point of assumming the standard Judo grip in the gi is the best grip in another sport where the same gripping and submission restrictions don't exist and the objectives for takedowns differ significantly. It might be slightly beyond the scope of the video, but I think you have to do even more than just re-evaluate the throws themselves for BJJ. Grip fighting and which grips to fight for might be the more imporant question to ask ourselves, because some throws which you'd dismiss like Harai Goshi and Uchi Mata have significantly different degrees of back exposure from a Kimura or Russian Tie respectively. I think Danaher is incredibly wrong in his estimation of what a bad throw for BJJ is, because he evaluates them from the most compromisng grips and positions. That kind of logic throws the baby out with the bath water, when the technique could have been saved with minor technical adjustments and better strategy. I guess my point is the underlying assumptions that we don't question likely define the throws more than the criteria we asign to them.
@@andrewferris1903 Yeah I meant it's good to prevent them from gripping your collar, assuming their hand isn't already on your collar. And on your point of choosing the best grips for BJJ, I guess it's more important than in Judo to prevent the guard pull, so a sleeve or even 2 sleeves might be good?
@@maxikozie I'm not sure whether or not a sleeve grip is better than a second lapel grip to prevent guard pulls, it's more of a battle for distance between your hips than it is their grips. Frames seem like a better choice here, for instance the stitching of the armpit and a front belt grip makes it difficult for them to close distance. Stance also has a lot to do with it, Kenka Yotsu makes it a lot harder for them to pull guard. It's a more complicated task than just choosing the most risk adverse takedowns from Wrestling and Judo, because then we have to ask what is the best kizushi for those takedowns and what grips facilitate said kizushi. A lot of boxes to tick. Double sleeves is a great grip, I'm just not sure it's a grip you can get consistently in high level competition. I have a working theory that the cross grip is actually the superlative grip in gi BJJ, based on it being hyper efficient kizushi for snap downs and lapel drags which facilitate ankle picks and foot sweeps. Even more so with a snapdown offense, you'e practically adjacent to the standing loop choke for an upgraded front headlock control. Another factor that needs to be considered is how good a grip is for guard pullling in and of itself, since guard pull to sweep is without a doubt the dominant strategy in the sport. Furthermore if you do pull guard, what grips do you want on the ground vs a standing opponent? This all leads me back to the cross collar grip, because of the double trouble nature of lapel drags and ankle pick sweeps from the ground. You start to think further along this path and you can find other interesting deductions like the Korean Seo Nage probably being a decent surprise through or having both grips on one side of the gi making it easier to get kimuras or makikomi throws. I don't know if Danaher has a specific system in mind or if he just plans on evaluating individual takedowns, but the more I think about it there is probably a game theory optimal answer for the gi based on low amplitude takedowns, kizushi for them and their relevance both standing and in guard. Sorry for thinking out loud, just needed to dump my thoughts where I could see them.
@@rodrigorodrigues5510 depends on the competition ruleset. I've seen BJJ competitions where people won by wrapping themselves around the opponent's torso, and dropping on their backs, because it's considered slamming, which is illegal.
Hi Shintaro, I love your videos. My 1 beef with the anckle pick is that I have to let the sleeve grip go :( Don't good judokas try to hold on to their precious grips?
yes for sure. But this one is for BJJ people who dont have powerful and refined turn throws like you who have developed it over years and years of Judo training. Ankle picks are much safer for them
@@Shigashi84 Haha no I'm a BJJ guy, I can't turn throw at all! But what I like about keeping my same grips all the time is that I can practice the same moves over and over (mostly foot sweeps) so that I can get better at them faster. But, on your recommendation, I'll start mixing in some ankle picks as well ;)
You and Travis Stephen's have the Judo you tube scene well and truly sewn up. Thanks for your content. 🙏
Glad you like them!
It’s a great contribution to John Danaher’s project dedicated to developing a top notch standing game specifically for the context of BJJ tournament rule set! Thank you very much for the video!💜
Shintaro started earlier though so I'd say Danaher is contributing to him ;)
Max van den Broek Aye, that’s a fair point! That was my BJJ bias
Had my first day of Judo yesterday after years of Muay Thai and I'm definitely in love!
These instructional TH-cam’s are so awesome I got the series. Thanks for putting this out there with an actual game.
Thank you!!
Great job Shintaro!!!
always appreciate this stuff. well shown/described from different angles-- explains logic/functional applications. just all good stuff. thank you, Sir!
you are very welcome!
I like that set up
Love it!!! Good set up for a leg submission.
Let’s go shintaro the best youtube Mr around 😂 u the vest keep it up
Thanks Jeff!!! Greatly appreciate the kind words.
Nice Master
Amazing stuff, would like to see more but im hesitant as I’ve never bought instructionals online ever
I've never bought one either. Let me know how it goes. haha
This is Golden!!!
🙏💪✊👌💥
Rhetorical question, what's the point of the sleeve grip if you never intend on using it for turning throws?
You still want a control on that side of the body right? And I guess sleeve is a better defensive grip than lapel against counter grips. And you can arm drag with it.
@@maxikozie Double lapel and cross collar are stronger defensive grips than collar and sleeve and both generate better Kizushi via snapdowns and lapel drags for the throws mentioned. In the case of Aiyutsu Kumi Kata, the sleeve is only really necessary to generate back exposure and control the arm for an ippon score - which doesn't exist in Jui Jitsu.
I am not saying it is wrong by any means, but I don't really see the point of assumming the standard Judo grip in the gi is the best grip in another sport where the same gripping and submission restrictions don't exist and the objectives for takedowns differ significantly.
It might be slightly beyond the scope of the video, but I think you have to do even more than just re-evaluate the throws themselves for BJJ. Grip fighting and which grips to fight for might be the more imporant question to ask ourselves, because some throws which you'd dismiss like Harai Goshi and Uchi Mata have significantly different degrees of back exposure from a Kimura or Russian Tie respectively.
I think Danaher is incredibly wrong in his estimation of what a bad throw for BJJ is, because he evaluates them from the most compromisng grips and positions. That kind of logic throws the baby out with the bath water, when the technique could have been saved with minor technical adjustments and better strategy.
I guess my point is the underlying assumptions that we don't question likely define the throws more than the criteria we asign to them.
If you have their sleeve (and off your collar), you can prevent them from controlling your posture.
@@andrewferris1903 Yeah I meant it's good to prevent them from gripping your collar, assuming their hand isn't already on your collar. And on your point of choosing the best grips for BJJ, I guess it's more important than in Judo to prevent the guard pull, so a sleeve or even 2 sleeves might be good?
@@maxikozie I'm not sure whether or not a sleeve grip is better than a second lapel grip to prevent guard pulls, it's more of a battle for distance between your hips than it is their grips. Frames seem like a better choice here, for instance the stitching of the armpit and a front belt grip makes it difficult for them to close distance. Stance also has a lot to do with it, Kenka Yotsu makes it a lot harder for them to pull guard. It's a more complicated task than just choosing the most risk adverse takedowns from Wrestling and Judo, because then we have to ask what is the best kizushi for those takedowns and what grips facilitate said kizushi. A lot of boxes to tick.
Double sleeves is a great grip, I'm just not sure it's a grip you can get consistently in high level competition. I have a working theory that the cross grip is actually the superlative grip in gi BJJ, based on it being hyper efficient kizushi for snap downs and lapel drags which facilitate ankle picks and foot sweeps. Even more so with a snapdown offense, you'e practically adjacent to the standing loop choke for an upgraded front headlock control.
Another factor that needs to be considered is how good a grip is for guard pullling in and of itself, since guard pull to sweep is without a doubt the dominant strategy in the sport. Furthermore if you do pull guard, what grips do you want on the ground vs a standing opponent? This all leads me back to the cross collar grip, because of the double trouble nature of lapel drags and ankle pick sweeps from the ground. You start to think further along this path and you can find other interesting deductions like the Korean Seo Nage probably being a decent surprise through or having both grips on one side of the gi making it easier to get kimuras or makikomi throws.
I don't know if Danaher has a specific system in mind or if he just plans on evaluating individual takedowns, but the more I think about it there is probably a game theory optimal answer for the gi based on low amplitude takedowns, kizushi for them and their relevance both standing and in guard.
Sorry for thinking out loud, just needed to dump my thoughts where I could see them.
I wish there was a grappling martial art that allows all Judo + Wrestling techniques while standing up, and all BJJ techniques while on the ground.
You should invent it!!!
Isnt that...BJJ? Hahaha
@@rodrigorodrigues5510 depends on the competition ruleset. I've seen BJJ competitions where people won by wrapping themselves around the opponent's torso, and dropping on their backs, because it's considered slamming, which is illegal.
Hi Shintaro, I love your videos. My 1 beef with the anckle pick is that I have to let the sleeve grip go :( Don't good judokas try to hold on to their precious grips?
yes for sure. But this one is for BJJ people who dont have powerful and refined turn throws like you who have developed it over years and years of Judo training. Ankle picks are much safer for them
@@Shigashi84 Haha no I'm a BJJ guy, I can't turn throw at all! But what I like about keeping my same grips all the time is that I can practice the same moves over and over (mostly foot sweeps) so that I can get better at them faster. But, on your recommendation, I'll start mixing in some ankle picks as well ;)
Domo Arigato Sensei
good stuff!
Could you show a Osoto Gari fake into a morote seoi nage setup. Or even an o goshi transition setup. Hard to train with the pandy in Florida. Thanks.
Yes will do :-)
hard to train here too in NYC...
1. What is a good drill to solo practice tomoe nage?
2. What is a good drill to solo practice ankle picks? (I'm assuming squats?)
Doing back rolls in a tomoe fashion can be helpful.
Very nice 👏👏👏
Thank you very much
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nice vid : -). Thx
4:10 sumi gaeshi
Awesome.
Thanks!
thank u sensei could u do not go juji gatame
and kimuras please 👍
and kimuras please
3:50 Can't the bottom person turn this into an armbar Sensei?
Yes for sure if they can anticipate the takedown. Top person should be aware of those dangers too.
@@Shigashi84 Thanks Sensei!
Shintaro is not an uke person
She's cute for sure, but I prefer seeing a bigger man as opponent so that I could picture the scenario better.