Stromer ST2 S Review - $10k
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- The Stromer ST2 S is an urban racer with smooth electronic shifting, app-driven performance tuning, ultra-bright dynamic lighting that responds to braking, five levels of power regen and regenerative braking. Available in three high-step frame sizes for improved fit, impressive weight distribution for a hub-powered ebike, removable downtube-integrated battery pack offers nearly 1 kWh capacity for 100+ mile range. Premium components and accessories including Shimano XTR Di2 drivetrain, Magura MT Next e brakes, DT Swiss wheelset, Continental tires, Supernova lights and Ergon grips and saddle. Heavier than most speed pedelecs but lighter than the standard ST2 and solidly built, comfortable to ride thanks to enlarged tires and carbon fork, extremely expensive electric bike priced at $9,490 USD.
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no suspension shocks and costs that much cmon
10 grand and the rim/wheel still wobbly LOL thanks but no thanks
Yes, I'd rather pay the insurance and get the moped license and buy a full Lithium electric moped like the ZEV S-8500 LR for *only* $8990 (Google it).
The ZEV S-8500 LR's 6kWh Lithium battery has a range of 60 miles at 70mph and even farther if you go at 55mph. Its probably safer than an electric bike as it easily keeps up with all traffic on the primary and secondary roads in all inclinations. The ZEV S-8500 LR could be taken on the freeway depending on how it handles at speed. Importantly, the ZEV could be parked on many sidewalks and storefronts so you don't have to park it so much. Thus you still get the benefit of avoiding parking hassles as you get with an e-bike.
Now comes an important part: Some would argue its an "apples-and-oranges" comparison by comparing a full speed heavy electric moped with an electric bike. But the $10k cost of the Stromer ST2S automatically makes the ZEV S-8500 a comparable alternative! I would seriously consider getting a ZEV moped right now but my DIY 28mph e-bikes pretty much satisfies all my local travel needs. I might just get a ZEV just for fun when the prices of Lithium comes down even more as the Tesla Gigafactories start producing more output. A ZEV-8500 with the capabilities described above for $8990 sounds pretty good but the same ZEV or equivalent at, say, $3999 would be even better!
The full utility of a lithium moped ZEV S-8500 makes the Stromer look like a "trophy piece" of the well heeled -- which it mostly is.
Expensive yes! But the most perfect human transportation in the world. If you don't want to drive a car in frustrating impossible city traffic. This is perfect for your heath, sanity and real Ecco friendly transportation. Cheers
eco
Frank d'angelo Yeah but you can get pretty good ebikes for less than a 1k these days. No way these bikes are worth 10k.
too cheap, i need one thats 100k
Lol
Daniel Smalheiser, that's a good one. Got me crack'n up. XD
When the cost of an electric bike can buy you a car, then...what's the point.
The point is riding passion. To me cycling isn't just about transport. It's a lifestyle, it's fitness and wellbeing, it's pure riding adrenaline.
+arbonac To add to what Jim said, you can ask the question the other way. Why buy a car when you could get a Stromer? Bikes and cars do different things: if you need to give someone a ride, having a passenger seat is pretty important. But if you want to take shortcuts using bicycle paths, move swiftly around the city even during rush hour, take your vehicle on the train with you, get some exercise as you ride, limit your fuel consumption, etc., then bikes are better.
Also, consider that the price of operating a vehicle greatly exceeds the sticker price. You've got insurance, gasoline, maintenance costs, and replacement cost (which is substantially different, because bikes last a lot longer than cars).
+Samuel S. Watson very well said mate.
+big willie I agree with that, it's definitely overpriced for what it is. My Haibike cost me 5,500 aus and it's Bosch mid drive, Rock shocks, 180mm discs, 400 watt hour battery. Half the price of this bike and it's a dream to ride.
+Big Willie
Feed back on the ST2 . I've had mine 1yr and am happy with my purchase. I ride in town 100% of the time which has your typical shitty roads and this bike is very smooth and the vibration issues are much better than a standard road bike ( I run my Big Ben tires at 20PSI). I did add a Body Float seat post for some extra comfort! The brakes work just fine & stops very quickly. This talk about amp draw/ efficiency, I go ride work 20 miles go home plug it in and do it over the next day I'm not sure this is a big concern for most riders. If you have an issue with the price that is is your problem but the bike is solid, trouble free, and looks and rides as good as the 1st day I got it. Plus the support they have is 1st class for any questions I did have. I know over time the prices will go down and there is always a bike for everyone budget.
I'm going to be getting an ST2 very shortly. Would consider the ST2S, but struggle to justify the extra 3K Euros for those lovely components when the motor is the same and you can get the same larger battery on the ST2 as an option. A lot of people are understandably shocked by the prices of these, but I think that says more about the state of the technology and the high r&d costs for small companies like Stromer than anything else. These are premium products for early adopters who are willing to buy-in at a high price point and who are comfortable with the fact that the technology you're buying today will be quickly superseded in the next few years.
+Kendoji1 Good points, it's nice that they now offer the 22" frame size for the standard ST2 and I like that it comes in step-thru and can be upgraded to the larger battery. In some ways it's a lot of money but depending on your job and love of bicycles and tech I could see it being worth it
$10k no way.
I like that it rhymes... mostly
BreeUSA I could buy a honda silverwing and that is the biggest scooter honda makes for the same price, how insane is that.
VeryCow it would be stolen in a week.
Thats a really nice bike. Out of reach for 97% of people price wise though :(
+tkmkirill Yeah, it's definitely out of reach for me but so much fun to ride! Maybe a normal ST2, still expensive but has many of the same characteristics and technology :)
+ElectricBikeReview.com Thanks for reply. Btw, are you getting any Trek Powerfly bikes to review? Check out Powerfly+ 5 which is 2200€ in Europe. Do you think that that is a really good value with the new Performance Bosch system and a 400 powerpack? Im thinking of getting it as my firs ebike.
There is absolutely nothing that can justify the price of this bicycle which is a giant theft magnet anyway, regardless of any anti-theft features it has. This thing is still sub kilowatt at 814WH! I've read that Tesla will be able to reach at least $100/KWH and possibly as low as $50/KWH of storage. The spare battery for this thing is probably over $1000! I wonder if Tesla is really able to drive down battery costs if it can put e-bikes into the hands of most people. If I could find an e-bike with 1KWH under $1000, I would definitely buy it. Right now these are just expensive toys with a lot of drawbacks. You really cannot replace a car with an e-bike. You don't not have to go to work in the snow or when it rains hard etc. So you really don't get much of a commuter benefit and you don't get the fitness factor of being a hobbyist cyclist. This kind of price NEEDS to be able to replace a car, something no bicycle can do and therefor needs to be SUBSTANTIALLY cheaper.
Tesla benefits from Government subsidies as well so it's nice that they get tax payer money to ensure success NOT. If there wasn't a market for this bike it wouldn't sell. For something that can't be justified it sure seems people find a way to do so and more power to them.
+KlipschHead281 So Tesla lives on government cheese, I don't disagree and without gov cheese, Tesla would go out of business. However, the new factory should lower costs for US consumers without government subsidies. It is supposedly very efficient with a very efficient supply chain that doesn't manufacture batteries who's components have 10s of thousands of shipping miles costs built into them. The battery factory may turn out to be the only part of Tesla that could be profitable without gov cheese.
This is probably the best review you've done yet. Awesome awesome awesome!! :)
+firecape Thanks, I've been spending more time with founders, shop owners and other people to add some color and alternative perspective to reviews. Do you like that even if it goes longer?
+ElectricBikeReview.com Absolutely it's okay that it goes longer. I want to be okay with purchasing a bicycle that's costing thousands of dollars. I love the editing, and you even had a clip that went back to another review you had, like time travel! :) Talking with the founders and shop owners really helps too, and in this video you're able to shoot from afar someone else riding the bicycle, so we we're getting multiple angles as well. Another thing, you're passing cars as you both are bicycling (and passing parked cars too), which helps give a sense of just how fast this bike goes too.
He's all jizzin over it... lol
the stealth bomber would beat this in every way
I still want that stealth bomber
Well... it's way heavier and illegal on public streets in most places, but I catch your drift :)
And you can buy all the components with a 5000 watt motor and a 72 volt lithium battery and assemble it yourself for under 2500! This guy killed puppies as a kid! Hate to know what he does now!
FouseyTUBE bought this bike!
you talk too much!!
+crolus Beroeatwarin He really does. And I think it is very rude that he always cuts into the explanations of the representative of Stromer. Let him finish his sentences, for f*s sake!
Amen!
I'll have you know that my father is alive and well and that he taught me manners, sir!
.... i'm not talking about your dad... what i'm trying to say is ( what you don't understand anyway) is SHUT UP your big mouth and LISTEN!! if you ask somebody while he is answering your question!! dont answer them self?? shame on you!! and leave your father out of it!!
Crolus, I see you have made zero videos. why don't you make your own, the way you like them. "shame on you"
I would NEVER pay 10k for an ebike, that's just insane. Super amazing bike but you can buy a motorcycle, moped, or a few other ebikes for that amount of cash. But if I had the money, the ST2 would be my bike, the $6900 version and still that's insane~ :)
overengineered? costs as much as a small car.costs same as three stealth bombers??? oookeeeyy
Great video, What is the Helmet that Scott is wearing? looks great.
It looks like the Giro Sutton or Giro Sutton MIPS . . . it appears to be in limited stock/close-out at most large retailers
ill go with the giant quick e+ for a quarter of the price
Egregiously Overpriced
...takes one to know one?
you need to market this bike to over the road truckers, to put on the back of their $165,000 peterbuilts.
Nobody is going to pay 10k for this...have fun going out of business.
lol
Watch Dailey dose of fousey
4k at the most
Fousey tube bought one
2 years later now: the company continues thriving, with even more line up of bikes that cost even more. :) who is laughing at who now?
way overpriced
Should go faster to keep up with traffic for that price (dumb E.U. laws don't apply here) and have through-the-crank motor. Not any nicer than my Kalkhoff Integrale 11, which as about half the price (and still spendy). When Stromer switches to a crank motor all the bikes like this will instantly be outdated. And no a $1000 E bike is not as nice, idiots.
This is a beautiful bike but 10K is just too much for a bike that might get stolen even faster than a regular bike
Which helmet is Scott wearing? Looks nice
This bike is now 5k used. Is that a good deal? Just wondering. Thanks!
For that price I can get used car!
In case you're watching this video in 2024 and you want to get into Stromer, I highly recommend the ST2S. You can grab a used one for 2-3K nowadays and there isn't too much of a massive difference between this and the ST5+. The Shimano electric shifting is super crisp - coming from an owner of an ST5 and ST7 after - and this is by far the most nimble and agile Stromer of the last 10 years.
cost 5K euro here and around 60-70% is being subsided by the government :) gotta love Belgium sometimes
I like more the *Stealth B-52* , is *The Best*💪 😜👉🚲🏁
In an honest review. Just don't forget to mention potential buyers each stromer specific 48V battery pack replacement approximately after 25.000km to keep the range will cost € 1.750 over and over again.
Also cutting off the rear luggage bicycle rack wich the Stromer ST2 had is no upgrade on the ST2s but an downgrade because now the users need an extra backpack on their back to be able to take along luggage with you.
Last con besides the imo overrated price : how are you gonna fix or change a flat tire on the road with the rear wheel without quick release being unable to be taken out?
The only thing that fails to make this an excellent product review interview is your chronic annoying need to TALK OVER YOUR INTERVIEWEE! So neutral rating, no thumbs up or down.
it is so ugly and too much money for any bicycle. Are you kidding me, "top of the line, like with the custom fizik saddle". LOL. That accounts for $50. NOW justify the the other $9500.
10k ill be afraid or worry to leave this somewhere. Jeez. Maybe ill pay for over 1500 but not going more than 2k for a bike. I rather get a motorcycle. But ill be lying if i say idont want this bike. Wish i can afford it.😢
It is just so disappointing for people who want to travel to work with a great bike like this that it is 10k. I almost can buy a complete car for 10k. Stop trying to be special!!! Just ramp up the production and make it 3000 dollar.
you can either buy a stealth bomber or the hpc revolution with 10 k. Heck you can buy the greyp bike with that amount of money
give me a free lifetime warranty on all parts and free regular maintenance forever including my for my entire lineage , and a monthly payment option.... Then maybe? 10k wtf not even a middrive...
why does the speed pedelec not have damped forks and onley 40nm normal bikes can have up to 90 nm brose and Yamaha and the double the price of an good scooter
Only $10k? with this kind of cool features and technology, price should be in the $1Trillion range.
i love them to try and explain to me why this bike has a RRP of 10,000?? i bet it costs less than 2500 to make
Dr sausage fingers probably less than 700
10k bike and then the starter line SLX shifters and handbrake.... wow...
Very nice bike, but incredibly over-priced. Perhaps a total rip off.
price seems reasonable.
fousey bought a 10k bike... damn
Ebike have lasted technology but one thing was forgotten. What about suspension?! 10K USD and get bike without suspension? That's non sense for me :D (the rest are perfect)
+Michał Giczalec I would definitely use a Body Float seat post suspension and maybe even a stem suspension (I saw something like this in development and may test a prototype soon!) you can also get a regular suspension post to replace the Carbon fiber fork but they made it all solid for performance, just like most road bikes.
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Lifestyles of the rich and famous, 10,000$! Who is buying this? Pros: 110 miles a charge, fast, and integrated! Cons: no suspension, 10,000$ for a ebike are you kidding me, for that much money and no built in GPS/Stereo/rear rack/bottle cages, as soon as you buy it and go for one mile the bike depreciates by half the price! Also last but not least, Wired magazine found our stolen bike, and they just happened to write an article about the bike, who looses a bike worth 10,000$ in the day time! Sounded like P.R. to me! Excellent review Sir, it looks like a blast but at a serious cost! Just my opinion but people who are spending that much on a bike do not have to save up for it, they are already rich!
+Clinton Baltazor Sure, I was also suspect about the "stolen" bike but who really knows... sounds like another one was recovered recently without as much fanfare and coincidental timing. In any case, it is beautiful and for rich or famous people this is way cooler than jewelry in my opinion :D
I just put in my reservation for my $35K Tesla Model 3 ... for this thing to sell at $10K ...??? Well, like many has said already is simply "A JOKE"!!! Now ... if it comes with a self driving feature then maybe ... NOT!!! hahahaha
+William Lam Nice, the 3 looks very cool... but don't forget about the $100k+ Tesla Roadster that seemed ridiculously expensive and didn't have self drive (nor did the early model S which is not upgradable from what I'm reading). Those early models were awesome but some people called them ridiculous... they served as a starting point for technology and an investment for future models like the 3. In several years we may see the tech from ebikes like this one making its way down to more affordable models so I'm very happy that some people will pay $10k to be first and help move the space forward. It's still an amazing bike after all. Many less wealthy individuals could afford this ebike by simply stopping smoking or stopping drinking for a year or two. To me, that's the joke.
hard sell at the price.. when some 3-4.000 bikes do the same job.. hell, some 1-1.5k bikes do.
And a big reason why commuters would go for a bike or ebike is the cost saving balancing the cost of the bike vs the cost of a car (or public transport). Most people can justify a purchase then as the bike sort off pays for itself within 1-2 years (obviously depending on their personal costs and situation)
This one would take me about 7-8 years to become profitable.. that's an long time..
Not to mention (like many have) is that the 10.000 mark brings you into a very huge electric vehicle market.
Electric scooters, electric motorbikes (Zero S).. even electric cars (Renault twizy) And you'd STILl have money to spare after
It's a really awesome bike, with some great technology in it. But seriously.....
Can someone tell me what helmet the Stromer guy is wearing please?
Pretty sure that is a Bell Hub helmet
What an awful review. As a proud owner of a Stromer this guy should not review the bike. It's insane to compare the ST2S with the ST1. The real comparison would have been between the ST2S and the ST2. However, the "best" idea that this guy had, was to disregard the ST2 and push like a commercial spot the ST2S. This is not the way I would choose a bike. Maybe the STROMER guy would have been a better person to review the product and give us an idea about how good it is.
+James Bond Thanks for the feedback
It is a really polished and well enginered bike and it should cost more than all the other frankinstein bikes that are out there, but 10 grand is too much. It should be more like 6 grand and then I would jump on it. And they do have one for 6 grand but it doesn't have the range and features of this one. The wobbly wheel that they filmed just needs to be trued but judging by the way this guy was riding the bike I don't think he knows anything about mechanics or bikes or anything.
I do my best to film and ride... travel around the country, sometimes sleeping in my car, not always the best rested and the bikes are handled by shops or companies so I just go with what they've got. I'm learning what I can but indeed, don't have expert-level mechanical skills or bike knowledge yet :)
$10,000 -- ok that makes my $5000 seem like a deal sheesh
thank you very much for your time and effort making all these reviews. i learned alot.
I consider buying the specialized turbo S 2016. Besides the stromer st2, are there any other bikes i should look out for and reconsider? 45kph/28mph is a must. aswell as a 500W REAR motor. and it has to be legal in the EU.
people fail to realize that this bike is essentially the mercedez benz of electric bikes. There are very affordable bikes out there which are still really really great. And as with anything the prices of the parts go down . higher end bike will come down as the price of parts drop
When we get the review for the new st2 beltdrive ?
10g's and it doesn't even have a throttle?
Can someone smart break down the price, which component is this pricey that the total price tag is 10K !? And congrats to Stromer for putting a super quite high performance motor on this bike, i am seriously in love whit it :D
+Nisco Racing Hi Nisco, I think a big part of the price for both ST2 models is the custom frame, custom carbon fork, integrated display systems and free over-the-air wireless cloud system for updates, GPS and security. They definitely pay a lot for the battery cells which are Samsung high quality super-energy dense and you get a full kWh here which is more than double most ebikes. Stromer has to pay Shimano for their cutting edge drivetrain and electronic shifting systems and then factor in that fewer ST2 models will sell because they are so expensive so the price is boosted even more. Cheaper bikes can go for volume and make less on a unit per unit basis. There's also marketing and support to pay for because they have to provide a higher level of service for such an expensive product. Those are my thoughts at least, I welcome others to join in and comment.
If you were to try and build a bike like that, you’ll understand. I do Diy sooo…….
guy from stromer shows no excitement or any interest in really representing this brand. almost as if he was being bothered.
Why are they 10k?
I love technology but where are we going on this new bike? It's now much more difficult to ride a bike than a Tesla car... I have an electrical bike for years and trust me you don't need such difficult technology (I have noticed when the electronic display broke down... I just hit 3 speeds for different slopes with real buttons)... Still too difficult... Everything should be automatic and without buttons.
Not very practical when it comes to stowing away in smaller spaces,like an RV or a boat= No Good.
Oh, come on! There are all kinds of folding electric bikes out there and only a small subsection of the population even uses or owns RVs and boats... I can't believe you are dismissing this thing for these reasons, I'm literally laughing out loud, made my night... here are some folding ebikes for you: electricbikereview.com/category/folding/
Having a manufacturer representative present during a review taints the results for me. It becomes an advertisement.
I feel ya... guess they didn't trust me with a $10k ebike left to my own devices :P
What's the brand of the helmet please ?
Looks nice and integrated but I'd rather go for an $8k R&M bike which has rear suspension, also 1kWh worth of batteries.
The Riese & Müller bikes are looking pretty sweet... but they weren't available in the US when this model first came out. I think we're seeing a lot of improvements and price decreases as this industry matures :)
Maybe the interview should let the expert get a word in edgewise. His whiny voice is very irritating.
Noted, I guess I was just excited about the bike :)
ElectricBikeReview.com if he doesn't like your voice he should watch some else . So many ppl are so rude
interviewer please don't constantly interrupt your guest. It's him we want to listen to most not to mention a lil rude
Thanks for the feedback, guess I was a little excited and need to practice not interrupting so much :)
Dude. Let the guy talk about the bike he sells. We don't need your commentary.
I don't understand the uproar here about the price of this bike. Have you ever looked at the prices of high-end mountain bikes and road bikes? Why shouldn't a high-end eBike be just as expensive as the others. For my money I'd take this bike for $10k over a regular bike that cost $10k any day.
+Dom Johnson I'm with you... the technology is all custom, even the frame and it syncs to the cloud?! They had to design all of this just for a bicycle and it works extremely well. The two business models are low volume high price and that's what Tesla has done with the model S and X but eventually some technology trickles down and the cheaper more basic designs benefit so I see this as a trend setting ebike that is unique now for really pushing the limits but actually serves as an investment into future awesome tech :D
+ElectricBikeReview.com Absolutely, good points. If people took the time to really think about it and crunch some numbers, eBikes end up putting you in the black over their lifetimes. I currently have Turbo S and I figured it paid for itself in the first year base on my commuting situation, not to mention the exercise, fun and low mileage on my fancy car. Although it will take much longer to with this Stromer :)
wondering what kind of bottom bracket it has, would a 386 be best?
i want a chris king with ceramic bearing if the thing is 10g!
compare to Specialized Turbo S....what can you say the ride and the speed
they are nice but totally overpriced. you know you can get Stealth or HPC bikes for these prices not to mention two crf250l's my Dillinger goes hard and it's cheap!
+Jason C For sure... you can get faster, more powerful and cheaper but the beauty of this ebike is that it's so refined and also legal vs. HPC or Stealth. It's super quiet, light weight considering how powerful the battery is and the balance offers excellent ride quality.
+ElectricBikeReview.com yeah I spose you do have a good point that's like a Ferrari compared to a Hyundai like my Dillenger ha-ha
The ST2 and the ST2 S both had 814 Wh battery so how is there a difference?
it's only for € 4.5k in Europe, including VAT!
question: why these companies don't use belt instead of chain? bicycles with automatic shift without cluster nor multiple disks do exist, so why not an automatic shifting belt driven e-bikes? - great review, amazing bike, unfortunately last year bought a WV Golf Variant for 13000€, so that kind of price tag on a bike is out of reach for me.
+Juan Nieve You know Nothing! Yeah why are they not going for a belt model? Chain technology is getting old and rusty :P
Nisco Racing Leave me alone Ygritte :)
+Juan Nieve Good question, I think they chose a cassette so they could use the SYNO drive hub motor in the rear wheel. I have seen one ebike with internal gearing and a gearless motor from SMART electricbikereview.com/smart/ebike/ but otherwise the belt is usually only paired with a stand alone geared hub and the motor is moved to the front wheel which impacts steering (unless the motor is very small and light like on the Faraday Porteur: electricbikereview.com/faraday/porteur/ )
+ElectricBikeReview.com thanks dude!
+ElectricBikeReview.com : they can use de pinion 1-9 or 1-18 and still able to use the syno drive with a belt.
Maybe next year with the st3.😉
FouseyTube sold this bike to his manager for $4000
I saw his review, looked like he was pretty excited about the bike :)
compare the Scott E-Silence Evo 2017 - Electric Bike for half that price
I've seeing you guys there :) you pass to fast
its so comical how he tries to keep a straight face when confirming the prices on these bikes,
C'mon guy When you're talking about $9600 for a bike and in the same breath you talk of a Fizik saddle that cost $140 retail.Di2 is totally unnecessary.Tires,saddle stem,bars,rims,cassette and crank set are all normal everyday bicycle parts.
So please,tell us why we should spend 10k for a e-bike.Is it because 10k for a regular bicycle is not uncommon amongst enthusiast?
It is however one of the better looking more refined looking e bikes.
I like your white glasses what kind are they?
This vs Specialized?
Terrible design
Very informative review. I just bought a ST2s with body float and the Stromer Suspension fork. Awesome bike.
It arrives in a few days.
Planning to ride to work (~23 miles each way). Currently have a Cannondale Mavaro, which I love.
Cool! How have you been liking the ST2s Joe?
salivating...
It's called Dynasis 2, not 11, and for 10k it should be carbon
Awesome design. A bit different to my Haibike
What a sweet machine...
10K for EBike! Are you crazy?
No belt? 10k?
+HushemFlupskluk Stiff looking frame is awesome though.
Great review court as always! by the way i assume riding that bike fun starts at 100% - 50ish battery? but can you try riding those bikes at low battery let say
+Manuel Abella Hi Manuel, I've ridden Stromer and other ebikes with lower charge and they feel largely the same. The battery capacity on the ST2 models is so large that it doesn't really feel like the fun changes. I used to own a Haibike and had the same experience, it felt great until the very end and I always avoided letting it fully discharge to support the health of the cells.
that's nice to hear! fun till the last drop :)
Very cool bike in the right city... I live in Singapore where there's been a proliferation of e scooters and e bikes. If you think the battle between normal bicycles and cars are bad wait till you see the outcry when e bikes expand on those same roads. The Spore Govt recently put in strict laws around where and how fast e bikes can go (not sure how they will enforce though). Why the rules and outcry? Cause e bikes go as fast as congested slow moving city traffic, combine that with a few lunatic riders and you have a recipe for backlash. We've seen a rash of e bike deaths with riders getting run over by trucks and cars for one reason or another. In saying that I'm sure with proper enforcement and right environment these e bikes will their place. Personally I'm an avid cyclist and would ride an e bike but not in my country.
Riding in a running shoes, kek
+Ololo Top Secret Same shoes, every day ;)
"There's a sucker born every minute" ~ P. T. Barnum
"Pessimist: One who, when he has the choice of two evils, chooses both." ~ Oscar Wilde
It is a design product and the price is very high. For me it is too expensive. However, it is high quality and beautiful.
+Elya Cornovier Yeah, I totally appreciate it as art and even function :)
+ElectricBikeReview.com The quality justifies the price. It is a high-end product. Thank you Court, for the great videos.
love it
I have a specialized fat boy w 1000w erad mid drive w gear sensors and 48v 14ah battery for $4k, max speed 57 mph, would beat this skimpy any day
1000 watts with only a 14ah battery? You won't be getting anywhere near the range as this bike. Especially if you're lazy and don't pedal.
If I just pedal I get about 80-100+ miles.
That is pedalling at lowest pedal assist which will gives me little over 20 mph just on pa1
I'm saying that is 10k bike mine is 4k less than half, I have a specialized bike frame and carbon fork, the stromer lesser quality alloy compared to mine. My range can be anywhere from 30miles to 100+. It's not all about the battery statistics, the chemistry and technology of the battery is what really matters. Mine battery cells are same ones used in a tesla
that sounds pretty good mate!! My Haibike has a 11ah battery with the mid drive system. On eco i get around 55 miles but i'm a heavy guy so i use the battery quicker. but the power uphills is awesome on turbo mode. This Stromer is definitely overpriced.
interesting design surely but, worth 10 grand? hell no!.....
+carl marcelin How many people do you know that smoke? How much do you think they spend per year on cigarettes? Some estimates are upwards of $8k smokefree.org.nz/costs-smoking and we think it's perfectly normal. I think the key is discipline in saving and focus on one large good vs. lots of small cheaper ones.
+ElectricBikeReview.com Disagree. A better bike in every OBJECTIVE category can be built for about 1/4 to 1/3 the price by anyone.
+Johnny V Your straw-man argument is ineffective against my own straw-man argument for Carl... oh the irony XD
+Johnny V
Let see you put it up on the internet then and show everyone so we can rip it apart in the comment section.
imagine a 52 v 24 ah battery with a bafang bbshd 1000w middrive on a cannondale lefty 29'er with maxxis hookworm tires.
WHAT ABOUT WINDOWS PHONES?
+MadCowTv gaming No dice! Actually... I have no clue, maybe?!
) I am getting used to no apps on windows phone.
I'll just buy a Leaf.
The way I see it, it should be called OMNI UN-CONNECTED. Mine would not connect properly since day one. Stormers General Manager told me that a new interface was being developed, and Stromer was going to fix the bikes. The promised date came and went, and I found out (not from Stromer, but via LinkedIn) that he went to a competitor. After finding out who the new General Manager was and making contact, I am told that the fix will be $299. (I had asked Crazy Lenny's to let me know when this would be available, but never heard a word.) So, I asked again about getting the fix, and was told by Gary at Crazy Lenny's that it would be $650! In trying to contact the 2nd General Manager at Stromer, I see (once again via LinkedIn) that he had left Stromer, and was looking for a new job.
In addition to the connectivity issues, I am now on the 3rd SuperNova M99 Pro. And with only 40 miles on it, 4 of the LEDs have gone out. No resolution in sight on this issue either.
Now don't get me wrong, excluding my experiences with the Stromer, I have had great pricing and service from Crazy Lenny's. But, I am riding the Bulls Lacuba belt drive and the Trident E-Spike more and more, and the Stromer less and less. I have installed the LAPA GPS tracking devices on them, and they ALWAYS work! For the Stromer, I bought a $150, 4 pound ABUS lock, and that is the last money I am putting into this over-priced, under-performing bike.
The ST2S is a wonderful concept, executed poorly, by Stromer, with a network of dealers who can't be any better than the manufacturer is.
DO. NOT. BUY.
UPDATE: Crazy Lenny's got me a replacement Super Nova Pro light (thank you).
As for connectivity, it is useless. If you already have this bike, hide a LAPA (or similar tracking device) on it and don't throw good money after bad.
If you haven't bought this bike, look instead at Bulls, Haibike, Specialized, or R&M.
lol 10k for a bicycle
yeah man it's just too much I would consider around 5 ish for this kinda thing MAX.....
+Jason C I'd rather buy a nice used ktm