That thing you did at the start where you had the pros of the class on the right side of the screen, literally the coolest thing and id love to see that for all classes, instant sub. (also I would have watched this if it was even more in depth and was like 40 minutes or longer, great content)
7:17 Blaze Wizard was nerfed into-and-through the floor this patch, being one of the three supports that used to have elemental resistance debuffing (which was removed), but being the only one of the three to NOT get bonus final damage added into the kit as compensation for the nerf.
I look at these notes through a solo POV and while I didn't know the solo FD gains/losses exactly, things *looked* generally positive to me. The teleporter not being 1-time use is pretty huge for me.
@@RathGMS We do get some nice QOL with the teleporter being resuable and our being usable mid-air, but from a purely damage perspective, we lose fd in this patch. The ignore elemental resistance affected us as well as the party, so losing that is a straight 10% fd loss. The gains from the individual skill buffs do not fully compensate for this loss.
That's unfortunate to hear that it didn't balance them out solo. As a person with a mule I'll take the loss for the utility gain on the tele but I know not everyone cares as much. I use the hell out of my BM's tele and I'm glad I can start to do the same with BW.
Yeah around a 2 FD loss and ~ 12% FD to party. The QoL is nice though since it’s more rare to get than damage anyway. I’m on the hopium train that we will get dmg eventually
A lazy mobber I've grown to really love is Lara. River farming is as lazy as it gets. Set up your two points and then spam your summon button. Getting to Lvl260 felt free
As a DA main, I can confirm the difficulty in playing DA is different from that of other classes. We don't have a ton of buttons to push and frame perfect combos to execute, however as you've stated the difficulty lies in surviving. As a DA if you're running the max DPS setup RFS+29frenzy you'll die to patterns(80%HP+) that normally wont kill other classes, EVEN if you use our "parry" skill. On the other side of the coin however we can survive and basically ignore almost all chip damage that's 30%HP or lower.
My man is back once again with the vids! When you drop the Vhilla guide, I’m ready to spread that shit to my friends that need it lol you break it down step by step so well on your will video that my friend said he needs more lol great job man! Keep up the great work for the community!
I think I could get one out soon! Right now I definitely Fam cheese it and while I understand the mechanics of the fight despite that I'm not yet 100% on alllll the mechanics. I feel like I stumble through it with overwhelming damage more than anything lol
Lynn is my favorite class! Best(?) mobility in the game, not a lot of buffs/button presses, two heal-over-time abilities, a giant team shield, a cleanse, their basic attack hits like a truck with massive AoE, Bird and Wolf do great damage even if you aren't. They make up for their lack of burst with fantastic dps. 10/10, would recommend! :)
Wild Hunter only needs one change: Allow for any and all jaguar skills to be placed in auto mode, if any jaguar is in range of a monster, it will auto use the jaguar skills in auto mode as long as the skill is available to be used.
Yes please! I describe bossing with the Jaguar attacks as playing with 1000ms at all times. It's especially annoying having the bind be cast through the jaguar.
@@RathGMS Wait, the bind is cast through the Jaguar? wtf?!? Like honestly I was never fond of the rework they got, I wanted to make a boss mule WH before, but the idea of the Jaguar mounting class having to leave the Jaguar to Boss just didn't sit right with me, a shame tbh, but it's just a me problem
@@TheSkullkid777 I agree why make a class that rides a mount required to dismount to use skills? What about the other jags i captured? why cant each one of those be assigned to a certain skill and have the option to set it in auto? Mechanic doesnt leave his dishwasher to boss why WH
Damn insane quality and editing! Definitely need an in depth explanation for each class from you in the future lmao 😂 sub well earned sir keep up the great work ❤😊
Cannot recommend Kain enough to burn. The grinding is a little finicky at first, but its bossing has everything. A resetting dash that has stealth, an i frame on a decently short cd, lots of buttons but it's a make a wish combo class, just spam whatevers off cd lol. The damage will not let you down at 6th job, i promise. Its my favorite mule to play since last burn event.
only problem with that is I tend to have it not on the quick slots in the bottom right. its tedious to change quick slots on my mules if i dont plan to main it lol
Just saying that as a lvl 270 demon slayer that just soloed hlucid. The clsss is the best all rounder out there. The s just make bossing better and chill. In meso farming with sol janus and erda shower full 1944% meso i get 300/30mins. And also a great link skill for bossing.
im a beginner... is it reasonable to main a Bishop? Can i Boss alone? I want to support my Friends when we play together but i want to be able to solo Bosses also. Glad for any advise.
I'm no expert on Bishop but what I do know is they were used as the benchmark for DPS so classes were represented as a percentage of Bishops 100% and Bishop was often near the average to slightly below average area which is quite impressive for such a historically supportive class. Their support capabilities were recently nerfed quite hard and they received some changes to compensate. I can't tell you if those changes were positive overall but that's probably up to each player. My personal opinion is you'll be absolutely fine. Many of my boss mules are absolute bottom tier trash and they still feel adequate enough.
Had 2 Hyper Burns in mind [Lynn or CM], then realized Nexon is going to buff and nerf everyone. I got to start all over after testing these two out again plus some other ones on this list. x_x #GetNexowned
From purely the perspective as a boss mule, I'd say Dual Blader has the edge. They have a lot of nice utility and short cooldowns that allow them to breeze through easy bosses. To be fair to CM, they have short cooldowns too, but a lot less utility than DB.
any thoughts on aran vs shade? im still deciding which one to hyperburn, i dont have experience with either past 200, im planning to just take one as a boss mule (I already have shade and aran legion block)
Unfunded Dual Blader will typically have better results. DB is a much easier class to execute properly and they also have baked in 100% IED on several abilities making their early bossing a lot smoother than some other classes. Prior to this update Shad would have likely had the advantage thanks to their naturally higher damage but DB received substantial buffs so they're probably a lot closer now.
If you pick a non Aran/shade it will use up the wildcard burn. If you pick a Aran or Shade it will automatically pick the event burn for them specifically.
I really hate your channel because the videos are so high quality and you don't make them fast enough. EDIT: As a PF main, I was surprised PF wasn't included in lazy mobber list. I've finished many kdramas and animes while gaining many levels just pressing two buttons standing in the middle of the map.
currently my highest level is adele, but looking for a main that is low relatively low funded and strong long term to maybe main to, wondering which class would be good as i seen demon slayer or night walker are some of the top dpm, even zero. having trouble still bossing and if just based on the mobbing and slowly building up which character u think should be best starting out, as i know u did give a list but wanted to maybe narrow down to 1-2 to decide that will be good and fun to reach 260
I think you already have two great candidates in Night Walker and Demon Slayer, both incredibly strong with incredible utility. My personal pick would be Demon Slayer but I'm also not a huge Night Walker fan just because their playstyle doesn't resonate with me. Demon Slayer would have an easier start but Night Walker would have a stronger endgame, not that DS is weak by any means.
@@RathGMS Thanks cause i was considering a using the hyperburning to get some stronger dps as my adele i dont think has too high dmg output! Hope to see some videos regarding mesos earning updated or sth! thnaks again
If they add a bit more vertical range and maybe one more fireball for BW. It would be great to play. I have one as a 250 boss mule and they kinda suck to train with. Bossing they are pretty decent. Especially being to burst damien in P2 with pizza cutter above his nerf balls
this just kinda proves that zero is an all rounder lol once you understand the class it's actually rly easy compared to others, you get mini binds+2 health bars+ long bind that does dmg+2lives+2 s+ f2p weapon that u can 22 star you can carry that forever
Admittedly I understand nothing about how Zero actually works. They are definitively my least favorite class so I can't say I've ever been motivated to learn.
@@trevormoldenhauer7109 honestly if u want a class that'll prop be the same prop, go zero they haven't touched zero in years also zero is a really good combo class and is HARD as hell to kill plus u only need to 22 star once and youll have it forever
Yeah Rath I’m a 270 Demon Avenger If your running lvl 30 frenzy it’s a 6/10 difficulty with still good damage If your going lvl 29 it’s 9/10 difficulty maybe 10 but the damage is ridiculous Wouldn’t go 29 until I get a RFS. Appreciate your videos best maplestory ones to watch
Another great option and if I had made the video longer it would have appeared in some other lists. Great grinding, good DPM although with bossing you really need patience for keeping their summons up on the boss sometimes. Think putting down summons/marking the ground during Lucid while she flies around.
By function well I just meant in terms of performance. They're typically on the lower end of ALL dpm charts in history and that has lead to a very low interest. In terms of playing them they're incredibly smooth and well designed (minus Sea wave breaking all the time)
It's mostly cause we get 2 Hyper burns and one is marked for ONLY Shade or Aran. Their reworks also possibly change what I currently know about them so it's harder to recommend them.
They have one already! If you mean a traditional up jump without the need to double tap up that's an option you can toggle by right clicking the skill that gives them their up jump
Might wanna check my recent Phantom video for a more in depth version! I think they can be fun but they have numerous problems and frustrating aspects.
Burning a Hayato and Shade. Shade just for the crit damage. Hayato for crit damage, unique (I don't see many), and because they look like lazy grinders at 260+.
Hayato's are actually quite fun post 5th job! They were easily in my bottom 5 before ever 5th job advancing it. Great mobbing overall, very Dual Blader-like with rotating map wipers.
Wild hunter is a turbo lazy grinders as well, with the release of sol Janus I can cover the whole map with summons and just afk, don’t even need to press buttons 😂
idk what with Nexon on character that "don't have up jump" ? WTF NEXON ? why everyone got up jump then some just dont ??? i've been wanting to main a hero for a long while but the no up jump kinda irritate me :V and since dual blade just got up jump, can we make it for every class ?
Both are great! I would say a big decider would be if you'd rather have a more complex class like Shadower or a simpler class like Bowmaster. Both are top tier grinders and have a lot of bossing utility to keep them alive.
2:28 Cadena has got to be one of the most fulfilling and satisfying combo classes to both boss and mob with. Highly recommend for anyone wanting a bosser that isn't totally braindead.
DK usually ended high up on endgame DPM charts and they're incredibly durable. Only real downside is their below average mobility makes them slightly slower at mobbing until you get some Sol Janus investment. They have good low cooldown map wipers to offset that.
I know they're fantastic at mobbing but I know next to nothing of their bossing capabilities. They do respectable damage but that's really where my PF knowledge ends. Cool as animations/theming though!
I love (but also hate) Phantom but it's not a class I would ever recommend to someone outside of a link skill. And sadly when I do I usually recommend newbies do it asap so they don't have many better classes to compare it to yet lol
From my experience with a boss mule, not bad but a little clunky feeling is all. In endgame DPM charts I seem to recall them being average to below average.
Just not a class I know or like is all! My experience getting one to 200 was almost entirely negative so I never wanted to learn anything about them or take mine further and that makes it tough for me to ever talk about them or recommend them!
Odd there no kanna in the mobbers list to her hold kit is nothing but map clean as if hayto he need to be put in ghe difficult list or fun list he kit is fun but the part that make him difficult is the fact one of he skill lock you down if not exit right which can get you kill in boss fight and i think you forgot lara or what ever her name that summon a lot she need to be in the mob list to
So again, these aren't top lists or the best of the best, just personal recommendations. Every patch the Kanna community is doomsaying so I find it incredibly hard to recommend anyone ever actually invest into such a volatile character (future-wise). There are lot's of great mobbers around, I just picked some of my favorite ones!
The fact that they're like the premiere Summon class probably props them up quite a bit. They may have a lot of solid competition in classes like Lara/Kanna/Cannoneer etc but I think if someone asked "I wanna have minions/summons" you'll probably tell them Corsair
I'm more like a casual BW enjoyer but their changes seemed positive from a non support perspective. I also just like that their teleporter will actually function properly now.
@@RathGMS It is just going to function differently and weirdly, their mobbing was already perfect. They need bossing improvements, as in give them a second teleport that works like Evan's current teleport and that be perfect for bossing. There is a bunch of smaller things that need to be improved as well. Plus reworks for the 3 useless, dead skills 1st through 3rd jobs are needed.
I avoided the class for a loooong time purely off reputation and my experiences at 1st-4th job but I was genuinely surprised by their 5th job. Burst is satisfying to use (not counting DMG done) and I especially love their ability with the 10 charges that can function like a key held skill.
Did I say they specially don't work? I might have but Sea Wave aside I think they work extremely well, they just kinda underperform and break our fingers.
There are so many classes that are just as good and in some cases, better, than what I put on the lists. They're just personal recommendations based on what I like, what I know and what I know people typically enjoy as far as class popularity goes!
I'm personally burning an Aran, and despite my Shade already being 250 and basically having "no choice" I would have burned one anyway. I know it's all doom and gloom but their DPM and FD losses don't really matter to me, as long as they function I'm all good. That aside I know NOTHING of their new rework other than the negativity. That made it hard to recommend, and their legion block of course well...it's bad.
Just a victim of trying to brief is all. I'm also not the most well versed on the current state of Xenon aside from knowing they're insanely strong, makes it hard to speak on them.
Mihile is invincible 66% of the time, probably a bit more with server latency buff duration shenanigans. That small window they're vulnerable they're passively resisting a small amount of %HP damage.
Keep in mind my list is not a top/best list, just personal recommendations! Zero is my personal least favorite class so I honestly don't know anything about how they really function, it was a get to 200 and never touch again class.
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When is the hyper burn arrive?
That thing you did at the start where you had the pros of the class on the right side of the screen, literally the coolest thing and id love to see that for all classes, instant sub. (also I would have watched this if it was even more in depth and was like 40 minutes or longer, great content)
This was a really clean video man very nice.
7:17 Blaze Wizard was nerfed into-and-through the floor this patch, being one of the three supports that used to have elemental resistance debuffing (which was removed), but being the only one of the three to NOT get bonus final damage added into the kit as compensation for the nerf.
I look at these notes through a solo POV and while I didn't know the solo FD gains/losses exactly, things *looked* generally positive to me. The teleporter not being 1-time use is pretty huge for me.
@@RathGMS We do get some nice QOL with the teleporter being resuable and our being usable mid-air, but from a purely damage perspective, we lose fd in this patch. The ignore elemental resistance affected us as well as the party, so losing that is a straight 10% fd loss. The gains from the individual skill buffs do not fully compensate for this loss.
That's unfortunate to hear that it didn't balance them out solo. As a person with a mule I'll take the loss for the utility gain on the tele but I know not everyone cares as much.
I use the hell out of my BM's tele and I'm glad I can start to do the same with BW.
for the love of god do not make a blaze wizard lol
Yeah around a 2 FD loss and ~ 12% FD to party. The QoL is nice though since it’s more rare to get than damage anyway. I’m on the hopium train that we will get dmg eventually
This is the best edited Maplestory video I've ever seen. Goodness, you put a lot of love into this.
I accidently found this channel and his voice, wording, and editing ability is pro level.
wake up babe new rath upload just dropped
Wanted to comment this exact same thing haha, beat me to it
Best hyperburn recommendation video to watch! Great vid
Hi Rath, insane editting! Very nice video, well done (:
Hey, thanks! :)
Your editing is extremely good.
A lazy mobber I've grown to really love is Lara. River farming is as lazy as it gets. Set up your two points and then spam your summon button. Getting to Lvl260 felt free
Yes, Lara is _the_ lazy mobber. Especially after 6th job with their hexa summons. River and then just float around while exploding your summons.
I was thinking of burning a Lara.
As a DA main, I can confirm the difficulty in playing DA is different from that of other classes.
We don't have a ton of buttons to push and frame perfect combos to execute, however as you've stated the difficulty lies in surviving.
As a DA if you're running the max DPS setup RFS+29frenzy you'll die to patterns(80%HP+) that normally wont kill other classes, EVEN if you use our "parry" skill. On the other side of the coin however we can survive and basically ignore almost all chip damage that's 30%HP or lower.
Damn you gotta be a stoner to main that
My man is back once again with the vids! When you drop the Vhilla guide, I’m ready to spread that shit to my friends that need it lol you break it down step by step so well on your will video that my friend said he needs more lol great job man! Keep up the great work for the community!
I think I could get one out soon! Right now I definitely Fam cheese it and while I understand the mechanics of the fight despite that I'm not yet 100% on alllll the mechanics. I feel like I stumble through it with overwhelming damage more than anything lol
@ we believe in you man! The mechs a little finicky tbh I believe that
My goat is back, just in time
What you think about shade ?? Is it good to Boss or mobs?
Lynn is my favorite class!
Best(?) mobility in the game, not a lot of buffs/button presses, two heal-over-time abilities, a giant team shield, a cleanse, their basic attack hits like a truck with massive AoE, Bird and Wolf do great damage even if you aren't. They make up for their lack of burst with fantastic dps. 10/10, would recommend! :)
Lynn does not have anywhere near the best mobility in the game lol
Wild Hunter only needs one change: Allow for any and all jaguar skills to be placed in auto mode, if any jaguar is in range of a monster, it will auto use the jaguar skills in auto mode as long as the skill is available to be used.
Yes please! I describe bossing with the Jaguar attacks as playing with 1000ms at all times. It's especially annoying having the bind be cast through the jaguar.
@@RathGMS Wait, the bind is cast through the Jaguar? wtf?!? Like honestly I was never fond of the rework they got, I wanted to make a boss mule WH before, but the idea of the Jaguar mounting class having to leave the Jaguar to Boss just didn't sit right with me, a shame tbh, but it's just a me problem
@@RathGMS I love WH mobbing, bossing can be good with one simple change.
@@TheSkullkid777 I agree why make a class that rides a mount required to dismount to use skills? What about the other jags i captured? why cant each one of those be assigned to a certain skill and have the option to set it in auto? Mechanic doesnt leave his dishwasher to boss why WH
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Damn insane quality and editing! Definitely need an in depth explanation for each class from you in the future lmao 😂 sub well earned sir keep up the great work ❤😊
Cannot recommend Kain enough to burn. The grinding is a little finicky at first, but its bossing has everything.
A resetting dash that has stealth, an i frame on a decently short cd, lots of buttons but it's a make a wish combo class, just spam whatevers off cd lol. The damage will not let you down at 6th job, i promise. Its my favorite mule to play since last burn event.
Should be criminal not to include Lumi and Hayato on the list of best mobbers 😂
It's not a top/best list, just personal picks of mine.
Infinity tip: You look at the cooldown on the skill itself in the area where all your skills are, not where the buff is.
only problem with that is I tend to have it not on the quick slots in the bottom right. its tedious to change quick slots on my mules if i dont plan to main it lol
Small correction: Demon Slayer can actually reach near max rates tp farming with sol janus
Good to know!
Yeah i was wondering why you said that it was bad rates - its literally top 3 farmer rn😅
Just saying that as a lvl 270 demon slayer that just soloed hlucid. The clsss is the best all rounder out there. The s just make bossing better and chill. In meso farming with sol janus and erda shower full 1944% meso i get 300/30mins. And also a great link skill for bossing.
im a beginner... is it reasonable to main a Bishop? Can i Boss alone? I want to support my Friends when we play together but i want to be able to solo Bosses also. Glad for any advise.
I'm no expert on Bishop but what I do know is they were used as the benchmark for DPS so classes were represented as a percentage of Bishops 100% and Bishop was often near the average to slightly below average area which is quite impressive for such a historically supportive class.
Their support capabilities were recently nerfed quite hard and they received some changes to compensate. I can't tell you if those changes were positive overall but that's probably up to each player.
My personal opinion is you'll be absolutely fine. Many of my boss mules are absolute bottom tier trash and they still feel adequate enough.
Had 2 Hyper Burns in mind [Lynn or CM], then realized Nexon is going to buff and nerf everyone.
I got to start all over after testing these two out again plus some other ones on this list. x_x
#GetNexowned
good list!
what do y'all recommend, DB or DK ?
Banger thanks for the video. Still torn between cannon master and dual blade for my first ever boss mule
From purely the perspective as a boss mule, I'd say Dual Blader has the edge. They have a lot of nice utility and short cooldowns that allow them to breeze through easy bosses. To be fair to CM, they have short cooldowns too, but a lot less utility than DB.
How does WA compare for farming? Want a class that can “lazy farm”
Bro explain how you do the racoon thing in your videos.
what do you think of I/L?
any thoughts on aran vs shade? im still deciding which one to hyperburn, i dont have experience with either past 200, im planning to just take one as a boss mule (I already have shade and aran legion block)
Right now Shade probably has all the pros balance-wise. Plus it's got the best legion block (Crit DMG) so you really can't go wrong with it!
Shadower or dual blade for unfunded f2p and why? Im in dilemma between these two
Unfunded Dual Blader will typically have better results. DB is a much easier class to execute properly and they also have baked in 100% IED on several abilities making their early bossing a lot smoother than some other classes.
Prior to this update Shad would have likely had the advantage thanks to their naturally higher damage but DB received substantial buffs so they're probably a lot closer now.
Raccon at my time bar is super cute
Returning player here, how do you hyperburn a character in kronos besides shade and aran. Or can i only hyperburn any character in the burning world
If you pick a non Aran/shade it will use up the wildcard burn. If you pick a Aran or Shade it will automatically pick the event burn for them specifically.
I really hate your channel because the videos are so high quality and you don't make them fast enough.
EDIT: As a PF main, I was surprised PF wasn't included in lazy mobber list. I've finished many kdramas and animes while gaining many levels just pressing two buttons standing in the middle of the map.
currently my highest level is adele, but looking for a main that is low relatively low funded and strong long term to maybe main to, wondering which class would be good as i seen demon slayer or night walker are some of the top dpm, even zero. having trouble still bossing and if just based on the mobbing and slowly building up which character u think should be best starting out, as i know u did give a list but wanted to maybe narrow down to 1-2 to decide that will be good and fun to reach 260
I think you already have two great candidates in Night Walker and Demon Slayer, both incredibly strong with incredible utility. My personal pick would be Demon Slayer but I'm also not a huge Night Walker fan just because their playstyle doesn't resonate with me. Demon Slayer would have an easier start but Night Walker would have a stronger endgame, not that DS is weak by any means.
@@RathGMS Thanks cause i was considering a using the hyperburning to get some stronger dps as my adele i dont think has too high dmg output! Hope to see some videos regarding mesos earning updated or sth! thnaks again
If they add a bit more vertical range and maybe one more fireball for BW. It would be great to play. I have one as a 250 boss mule and they kinda suck to train with.
Bossing they are pretty decent. Especially being to burst damien in P2 with pizza cutter above his nerf balls
So down to AB and CM which overall be relaxing/chill to 260+
this just kinda proves that zero is an all rounder lol once you understand the class it's actually rly easy compared to others, you get mini binds+2 health bars+ long bind that does dmg+2lives+2 s+ f2p weapon that u can 22 star you can carry that forever
Admittedly I understand nothing about how Zero actually works. They are definitively my least favorite class so I can't say I've ever been motivated to learn.
I'm torn between zero and illium, zero seems the most fun but it looks so daunting reading through the class Google doc lol.
@@trevormoldenhauer7109 honestly if u want a class that'll prop be the same prop, go zero they haven't touched zero in years also zero is a really good combo class and is HARD as hell to kill plus u only need to 22 star once and youll have it forever
Yeah Rath I’m a 270 Demon Avenger
If your running lvl 30 frenzy it’s a 6/10 difficulty with still good damage
If your going lvl 29 it’s 9/10 difficulty maybe 10 but the damage is ridiculous
Wouldn’t go 29 until I get a RFS.
Appreciate your videos best maplestory ones to watch
bros justo go and create an AB as second main, never gonna regret, trust me
What about Corsair?
Another great option and if I had made the video longer it would have appeared in some other lists. Great grinding, good DPM although with bossing you really need patience for keeping their summons up on the boss sometimes. Think putting down summons/marking the ground during Lucid while she flies around.
what do you mean thunderbreaker doesnt work? it is one of the smoothest class experiences that I have ever played up to ctene
By function well I just meant in terms of performance. They're typically on the lower end of ALL dpm charts in history and that has lead to a very low interest.
In terms of playing them they're incredibly smooth and well designed (minus Sea wave breaking all the time)
Is this also accounted for the Aran + Shade revamp? Just don't see any of their name on here wondering if they're still bad after the revamp...
It's mostly cause we get 2 Hyper burns and one is marked for ONLY Shade or Aran. Their reworks also possibly change what I currently know about them so it's harder to recommend them.
@@RathGMS ohhh I didn't know we're getting 2 good to know
Will bowmaster receive a up jump?
They have one already! If you mean a traditional up jump without the need to double tap up that's an option you can toggle by right clicking the skill that gives them their up jump
W vid!
Thoughts about Phantom?
Might wanna check my recent Phantom video for a more in depth version! I think they can be fun but they have numerous problems and frustrating aspects.
@RathGMS I'm 275 and ye issues when not rich.
the most played at 260+ list is all i see here in Bera lol xD
I'm gonna be burning Kain and Aran. Considered DB but I think I'm gonna just grind that out.
Excellent choices! Well, Aran is controversial right now but that one is a 50/50 and I'm personally excited for my Aran.
Still waiting on that Phantom rework/revamp 😢
I run my DA bossing mule with 29 fz and i never have to use potions and rarely die. Just takes practice, im not doing anything insane tho
how come luminous is not part of the easy mobbing?
Cause it's not a top/best list, just personal picks of my own.
Burning a Hayato and Shade. Shade just for the crit damage. Hayato for crit damage, unique (I don't see many), and because they look like lazy grinders at 260+.
Jett trace copium 😭
Hayato's are actually quite fun post 5th job! They were easily in my bottom 5 before ever 5th job advancing it. Great mobbing overall, very Dual Blader-like with rotating map wipers.
@@mattcee7113 I have my Jett Trace until June 2025.
Demon slayer is really “well rounded”, can’t say it any better. An absolute unit of a boss slayer. And training is getting easier.
Wild hunter is a turbo lazy grinders as well, with the release of sol Janus I can cover the whole map with summons and just afk, don’t even need to press buttons 😂
idk what with Nexon on character that "don't have up jump" ? WTF NEXON ? why everyone got up jump then some just dont ??? i've been wanting to main a hero for a long while but the no up jump kinda irritate me :V and since dual blade just got up jump, can we make it for every class ?
Explorer warriors have that skill that acts like an up jump and it's getting a big buff this patch, it's going to be way faster
Hero is actually the one Warrior I don't miss a real up jump on, their little teleport thingy works exceptionally well! DK, Mihile and Pally are pain.
@@RathGMSwhat teleport thing on hero?
@@RathGMS wait Hero have a mini teleport :O ?
Where marksman @ though for both ez bosser + farmer class ?
Just not a personal recommendation of mine is all! MM is great but historically unpopular at just about every patch Maple has ever had.
@@RathGMS ahhh i got you also feel free to reply my 2nd commenrs xD
We get to burn 2 characters this patch?
Yes
shadower or bowmaster?
Both are great! I would say a big decider would be if you'd rather have a more complex class like Shadower or a simpler class like Bowmaster. Both are top tier grinders and have a lot of bossing utility to keep them alive.
is the guild on herioc or normal
Heroic on the Kronos server
2:28 Cadena has got to be one of the most fulfilling and satisfying combo classes to both boss and mob with. Highly recommend for anyone wanting a bosser that isn't totally braindead.
Back after a 10 year hiatus, so I'll remake my DK. Just wanted to see where people rank it these days and going into the update. Lol.
DK usually ended high up on endgame DPM charts and they're incredibly durable. Only real downside is their below average mobility makes them slightly slower at mobbing until you get some Sol Janus investment. They have good low cooldown map wipers to offset that.
What about pathfinder ?
I know they're fantastic at mobbing but I know next to nothing of their bossing capabilities. They do respectable damage but that's really where my PF knowledge ends. Cool as animations/theming though!
Zero mention of phantom, gg.
I love (but also hate) Phantom but it's not a class I would ever recommend to someone outside of a link skill. And sadly when I do I usually recommend newbies do it asap so they don't have many better classes to compare it to yet lol
when is the hyper burning?
The 20th of November so only 2 days!
reject humanity return to monke !!
How is WH solo bossing? (damage wise atleast)
From my experience with a boss mule, not bad but a little clunky feeling is all. In endgame DPM charts I seem to recall them being average to below average.
@@RathGMS awesome ty, debating between quite a few classes with WH being one of them
Even I'm debating hyperburning my Wild Hunter even though it's already 220 and typically I like starting fresh.
@@RathGMS Im in sort of the same position. I will probably wait for news about if WH gets a rework - same with kaiser
where zero :c we have buttons to press, hard to kill and we have good mobbing and we're underplayed!
Just not a class I know or like is all! My experience getting one to 200 was almost entirely negative so I never wanted to learn anything about them or take mine further and that makes it tough for me to ever talk about them or recommend them!
@@RathGMS fair
AB or DW?
AB
Both are fun , you might get bored with DW though cause it’s simple
Personally, I had/have a lot more fun playing AB rather than DW. But it's really subjective. It all depends on what one likes.
Odd there no kanna in the mobbers list to her hold kit is nothing but map clean as if hayto he need to be put in ghe difficult list or fun list he kit is fun but the part that make him difficult is the fact one of he skill lock you down if not exit right which can get you kill in boss fight and i think you forgot lara or what ever her name that summon a lot she need to be in the mob list to
So again, these aren't top lists or the best of the best, just personal recommendations. Every patch the Kanna community is doomsaying so I find it incredibly hard to recommend anyone ever actually invest into such a volatile character (future-wise).
There are lot's of great mobbers around, I just picked some of my favorite ones!
Kinda surprise Corsair is not on the list for least played at 260
The fact that they're like the premiere Summon class probably props them up quite a bit. They may have a lot of solid competition in classes like Lara/Kanna/Cannoneer etc but I think if someone asked "I wanna have minions/summons" you'll probably tell them Corsair
Blaze Wizard is getting absolutely massacred if we get the KMS skill changes, they got the most screwed over from KMS.
I'm more like a casual BW enjoyer but their changes seemed positive from a non support perspective. I also just like that their teleporter will actually function properly now.
@@RathGMS It is just going to function differently and weirdly, their mobbing was already perfect.
They need bossing improvements, as in give them a second teleport that works like Evan's current teleport and that be perfect for bossing.
There is a bunch of smaller things that need to be improved as well.
Plus reworks for the 3 useless, dead skills 1st through 3rd jobs are needed.
I avoided the class for a loooong time purely off reputation and my experiences at 1st-4th job but I was genuinely surprised by their 5th job. Burst is satisfying to use (not counting DMG done) and I especially love their ability with the 10 charges that can function like a key held skill.
How DARE you say Thunder Breaker doesn't work right!
It's uh... not like.. our sea wave breaks every other update or anything...
Did I say they specially don't work? I might have but Sea Wave aside I think they work extremely well, they just kinda underperform and break our fingers.
Im surprised ice lightning is not included for best mobbers. No movement needed just press spells and map dies
They're certainly good but to do max mob/hour maps they do take a bit more effort than some mother classes.
Pathfinder don't appearing in the easy but effective mobbers is an warcrime
There are so many classes that are just as good and in some cases, better, than what I put on the lists. They're just personal recommendations based on what I like, what I know and what I know people typically enjoy as far as class popularity goes!
No Zero mention in any list :(
Just not a class I like is all! That leads me to knowing nothing about them, makes it hard to recommend them.
Funny DA can be both an easy and a difficult bosser.
30 frenzy + no rfs = god mode 😂
"aran not being mentioned" - aran main sadge....
I'm personally burning an Aran, and despite my Shade already being 250 and basically having "no choice" I would have burned one anyway. I know it's all doom and gloom but their DPM and FD losses don't really matter to me, as long as they function I'm all good.
That aside I know NOTHING of their new rework other than the negativity. That made it hard to recommend, and their legion block of course well...it's bad.
Mechanic only because I need buff duration.
Wish you gave xenon more than 3 seconds 😢
Just a victim of trying to brief is all. I'm also not the most well versed on the current state of Xenon aside from knowing they're insanely strong, makes it hard to speak on them.
WHERE IS MY NIGHTWALKER BUFF😤
Mihile has better Iframe than Evan?
Mihile is invincible 66% of the time, probably a bit more with server latency buff duration shenanigans. That small window they're vulnerable they're passively resisting a small amount of %HP damage.
@@RathGMS with -2s CD hat it is 5.1s cd on RG which makes mihile in 83% of the time
DS & NW op ongfr
Subestimas mucho al lumi :(
Make Blaster, that's all.
Arrest this man, he's an agent for the Reddit.
maybe add zero to hard to kill bossers
@@lumasoda1199 maybe reread their comment before you get defensive lmao
Keep in mind my list is not a top/best list, just personal recommendations! Zero is my personal least favorite class so I honestly don't know anything about how they really function, it was a get to 200 and never touch again class.
@@ahduhmoh shit mb yeah nvm he's right i didnt get that to that part of the vid and thought they were just saying that they're hard to use