I just want to take a minute to thank you for doing this video. You saved me $4800.00. I purchased a board online for $165.00 and installed it myself! I had received a quote of $4800.00 to replace the furnace or $850 to replace the board with no guarantee that it would work on my 20 year old furnace. Your video gave me confidence to replace this myself and I am very grateful! I bought an extra board just incase as a backup as I am worried that they may stop making the part. Thanks again you made a great impact!
Thank you !!!! Exactly what I needed --- a comprehensive all inclusive how to video, step by step for this old man who was not going to buy a $4500 furnace when it is just a board that needed replacing... your manner of explaining is wonderful - have a great day.... bo
For the thermostat wires I usually take a piece of tape and run across the front and back of the whole group to keep them in their current position and also take a picture beforehand or write it down to make sure everything goes back in the same place.
I appreciate your comments about focusing on doing my own work to the best of my ability and not worry about what the last guy did. Great work on that control board and showing how to simplify the wiring cluster.
rheem makes pretty good equipment my rheem furnace was put in in 2014 still running strong after 6 years of service im pretty impressed with rheem quality
You are one very awsome perfectionist! Thanks for being such a great example to the rest of us techs! Virtually every one of your videos I find some new nuggets! You have another committed viewer here! 64!
An empty (Clear Barrel) Bic Ink Pen,slipped over those mounting tabs. For the board often works really well too, for board removal. Little trick I learned. Keep one in my go to bag. Like your videos!! Much appreciated 👍
This is a really good video. Thank you for showing the fuse. In my case, it was the 3 amp fuse that blew. Makes sense as in my case was out redressing wires outside to the AC unit and di not turn off the power. Can understand from my AC configuration how the fuse blew back at the board based on what I was doing, and everything worked prior to my outdoor work. Made sure the fuse socket was 0 ohms. The fuse measured open. It is a purple 3 amp ATC or ATO auto fuse.
Something to note too ted is those plug ends have little tabs on some of the rheem Ruud units you have to squeeze and then pull or they won't come off if your testing an operating good board you can break it
I have replaced some boards and installed many stats. I always wondered if in heat mode when you put the fan on on. Will that override the lower speed for heat. I presumed it would because there is no way for the tstat to communicate that it is in heat mode with only one wire for the blower. It never seemed possible that when you are in heat mode that the board sets a flag for the chip to read either. I just presumed and never checked what happens when a heat call is made.
The reason some of the spade connectors were so tight is because on a rheem the Un-insulated ones have a little lock tab that you should depress and they come off easy.
A small piece of 1/4” copper tubing works great to get the plastic push-ins off. Slide it over and pull it out from the back. I always flop the old Board down, mount the new board and then 1 for 1 swap wires
The method was well explained by the presenter, who also offered crystal-clear demonstration that made it simple to follow along. We provide quality Rheem Gas Furnace Circuit Board and other Rheem Ruud gas furnace parts.
I generally do not do much business, but I changed out a Control Board on a ICP Package Unit. It had gotten hot and a capacitor split all across itself. One resister burned out and many end connectors on the high side melted. I change those connector ends. The indoor fan motor shorted out and caused all problems.
I could be 100 percent wrong but I believe the eac terminal energizes anytime fan is called. I want to say it's on a different relay and want to say I jumped it over to eac before and ran it like that. I just dont remember if it's on the same relay
Thank you for leaving about a 1/16" of visible wire on the tstat screw connections!. Nothing irritates me more than seeing the screw terminals clamped down on nothing but insulation...
Question for you. I just replaced my control board thanks to your video; however, I noticed that a previous tech disconnected the P2 terminal (with the white and black wires) and left it that way. The blower motor was changed last year. The AC has been running with that disconnected for the last year or so, it seems. Should I reconnect that? Not sure what the reasoning could have been for them to leave it off, because I don't know what it does.
Take out the ink cartridge one of those cheap ballpoint pens and open up the tip just a little to use for a slide to push over those plastic rivets that hold the pc boards. This has worked well for me.
After tearing apart a lot of relays the contacts get carboned up or blackened until it insulates the contacts and they can't switch on. Some melt the coils but nor many.
Thank you for taking the time to help the public with this video. I was a little nervous about the whole thing, but I’m confident I can do it now! Thank you again good sir!
I live in missouri and was thinking about having a dehumidifier added to my HVAC system due to my breathing problems. I was just wondering if you ever install them?
I was told my control board to old and they dont make that version anymore so i need a new ac, this true? We had this ac since we moved in and that was like in 98 when we moved in. Might be orginal ac that was put in when the house was built.
I've been looking for a replacement wiring harness or the 4 pin plug upper left of board. 2 of the wires broke off their pins. Anyone know where I can find this harness or plug? I'd like to avoid a service call and or soldering wires directly to the board.
The plastic or nylon standoffs on the control board are the same ones used and computer Technologies and have been the same Wen utilize for the last 38 to 40 years! Soap are needle-nose is more than sufficient to squeeze the little prongs or the thing that locks it into the board and lift the board pass that little plastic locking tab on each four corners of the board
The relays don't create enough amperage to burn the boards unless you have some high amperage points on the board itself or transistor or heat sink or something of that sort or a high heat resistor or possibly a capacitor if there's part of a power supply on the board itself Take it from someone who's been professionally replacing or servicing and repair knees boards for almost 40 years
My cooling speed was set to low. The furnace I have is for 2.5-4 ton. I guess low speed is 1000 CFM. The AC is 2.5 ton. I was told by the installer that it’s a factoring setting that needs adjusting based on static pressure. Otherwise the AC won’t be as efficient and most importantly won’t dehumidify properly.
Did anyone notice for fan speeds he originally installed the RED to HEAT then edit video and I noticed he removed the RED and replaced with the BLUE! Can anyone explain why?
How about taking the wire off the old board and immediately putting it on the new board one of the time. That way you won't have to remember anything. But that would only work if the boards were exactly the same.
Question - what speed tap would you set the cooling on this furnace for a 2.5 Ton without performing a static pressure test? The model is 801TA075417MSA. I think it’s medium low. Want to make sure. resource.gemaire.com/is/content/Watscocom/Gemaire/rheem_r801ta075417msa_article_1403974088948_en_ss.pdf?fmt=pdf
The beginning of your video you can do a screenshot and have a photo or screenshot of where all your wires were to begin with before you started removing anything off the board
Patrick S if I had to guess he charged between 4 and 6 hundred for the entire repair which is fair if that’s the case for diagnosis and providing the part at that cost but it all depends on the company and what it takes for him to make a profit on the job everyone has bills to pay so it varies
Somewhat similar relays (with a 12V coil) are in some Kenmore/Electrolux electric stoves where they switch the top and bottom elements. 22V is a very odd voltage, btw.
I love watching your videos but whatever camera device or your editing software makes your audio almost impossible to hear. I can't watch you on my phone because it will not go loud enough to hear you. Most editing software will allow you to boost audio. Thanks for all you do Ted.
But I've always wondered why rheem and Rudd are the only ones who energize their heat pumps in heat not cool? ( reversing valve) why be the industry weirdos?
The control board went bad on my Goodman furnace. Goodman wanted $135 for the board but they wouldn't sell it to me because my license has expired. I managed to find the same board for $69 (free shipping) on Ebay. My neighbor paid an HVAC repair guy $550 to replace the same board. My old, failed board lasted 17 years and the flame detection circuit didn't seem to be working any longer. (The flame sensor was not dirty.) The old flame sensor worked just fine with the new board but I replaced the sensor anyway since the ceramic part of the sensor was cracked.
I hate when technicians come with their Overrated Horror Stories of what their about to repair and how stupid the last guy was.All the moaning and groaning.They trying to build the situation up to make themselves sound like the hero of a action movie***. Mutha-$%^& fix the dam thing and get the F outta here wit all that. Nice Video👀😎
I just want to take a minute to thank you for doing this video. You saved me $4800.00. I purchased a board online for $165.00 and installed it myself! I had received a quote of $4800.00 to replace the furnace or $850 to replace the board with no guarantee that it would work on my 20 year old furnace. Your video gave me confidence to replace this myself and I am very grateful! I bought an extra board just incase as a backup as I am worried that they may stop making the part. Thanks again you made a great impact!
Thank you !!!!
Exactly what I needed --- a comprehensive all inclusive how to video,
step by step for this old man who was not going to buy a $4500 furnace when it is just a board that needed replacing...
your manner of explaining is wonderful - have a great day.... bo
I always take a picture beforehand, just in case. Good video man!
I always take pics before I do anything electrical. Helps me out alot
For the thermostat wires I usually take a piece of tape and run across the front and back of the whole group to keep them in their current position and also take a picture beforehand or write it down to make sure everything goes back in the same place.
I replaced the same board for the same reason last week. I also used the old stand offs. Great video!
I appreciate your comments about focusing on doing my own work to the best of my ability and not worry about what the last guy did.
Great work on that control board and showing how to simplify the wiring cluster.
rheem makes pretty good equipment my rheem furnace was put in in 2014 still running strong after 6 years of service im pretty impressed with rheem quality
You are one very awsome perfectionist! Thanks for being such a great example to the rest of us techs! Virtually every one of your videos I find some new nuggets! You have another committed viewer here! 64!
great video, like all your videos very educational for both trade and keeping your integrity, thank you
I always liked how easy Rheem made their panels to take on and off, in this particular style of course. Who ever installed that system did a good job
Your kind of the Bob Ross of HVAC!!!
I love your videos, very well explained and so professional... keep it up the good job!!!
An empty (Clear Barrel) Bic Ink Pen,slipped over those mounting tabs. For the board often works really well too, for board removal. Little trick I learned. Keep one in my go to bag. Like your videos!! Much appreciated 👍
We were born to fix things,and it is wonderful that we get paid for it.
A/C and appliances for over 44yrs
This is a really good video. Thank you for showing the fuse. In my case, it was the 3 amp fuse that blew. Makes sense as in my case was out redressing wires outside to the AC unit and di not turn off the power. Can understand from my AC configuration how the fuse blew back at the board based on what I was doing, and everything worked prior to my outdoor work. Made sure the fuse socket was 0 ohms. The fuse measured open. It is a purple 3 amp ATC or ATO auto fuse.
Ilove the way you explains the process for replacement thanks very helpful
Rheem guy here, M1 and M2 next to the speed taps on the board are your deticated park terminals.
Have a good day Ted
I am so glad you heard me when I said the red wire went to the right! Great job!
Your attention to detail does make a difference.
You should do audiotapes. This is a great vid. Thank you.
i was looking for something to fall asleep to. people tinkering on stuff does the trick.
Re standoffs, I like Steve Lav's solution: push on them with the empty stem of a Bic biro.
Something to note too ted is those plug ends have little tabs on some of the rheem Ruud units you have to squeeze and then pull or they won't come off if your testing an operating good board you can break it
I have replaced some boards and installed many stats. I always wondered if in heat mode when you put the fan on on. Will that override the lower speed for heat. I presumed it would because there is no way for the tstat to communicate that it is in heat mode with only one wire for the blower. It never seemed possible that when you are in heat mode that the board sets a flag for the chip to read either. I just presumed and never checked what happens when a heat call is made.
The reason some of the spade connectors were so tight is because on a rheem the Un-insulated ones have a little lock tab that you should depress and they come off easy.
A small piece of 1/4” copper tubing works great to get the plastic push-ins off. Slide it over and pull it out from the back. I always flop the old
Board down, mount the new board and then 1 for 1 swap wires
The method was well explained by the presenter, who also offered crystal-clear demonstration that made it simple to follow along. We provide quality Rheem Gas Furnace Circuit Board and other Rheem Ruud gas furnace parts.
I generally do not do much business, but I changed out a Control Board on a ICP Package Unit. It had gotten hot and a capacitor split all across itself. One resister burned out and many end connectors on the high side melted. I change those connector ends. The indoor fan motor shorted out and caused all problems.
I could be 100 percent wrong but I believe the eac terminal energizes anytime fan is called. I want to say it's on a different relay and want to say I jumped it over to eac before and ran it like that. I just dont remember if it's on the same relay
Love the sound of a gas furnace fire-up. Had it as a ringtone for a minute, but I missed a lot of calls.
Thank you for leaving about a 1/16" of visible wire on the tstat screw connections!. Nothing irritates me more than seeing the screw terminals clamped down on nothing but insulation...
Question for you. I just replaced my control board thanks to your video; however, I noticed that a previous tech disconnected the P2 terminal (with the white and black wires) and left it that way. The blower motor was changed last year. The AC has been running with that disconnected for the last year or so, it seems. Should I reconnect that? Not sure what the reasoning could have been for them to leave it off, because I don't know what it does.
Does a furnace has two sensors?
I had to find the control board for my Lennox package unit on Ebay. 120.00 was the best price I could find for for it
Are the relays soldered on to the board or can they be replaced without having to replace the whole board?
Nice job again like always
How do you force second stage heat on to adjust gas pressure?
Take out the ink cartridge one of those cheap ballpoint pens and open up the tip just a little to use for a slide to push over those plastic rivets that hold the pc boards. This has worked well for me.
What are the terminals m1 and m2 on the bottom right of he control board my board is wired to m1 where this is landed on m2?
After tearing apart a lot of relays the contacts get carboned up or blackened until it insulates the contacts and they can't switch on.
Some melt the coils but nor many.
Hello, what can I do when the two green lights remain on and the yellow one does not turn on me. neither does it ignite the fire flame
Thank you for taking the time to help the public with this video. I was a little nervous about the whole thing, but I’m confident I can do it now! Thank you again good sir!
At 0:58 I call that a piggyback spade connector. Great short term solution! 👍
I live in missouri and was thinking about having a dehumidifier added to my HVAC system due to my breathing problems. I was just wondering if you ever install them?
I was told my control board to old and they dont make that version anymore so i need a new ac, this true?
We had this ac since we moved in and that was like in 98 when we moved in. Might be orginal ac that was put in when the house was built.
I've been looking for a replacement wiring harness or the 4 pin plug upper left of board. 2 of the wires broke off their pins. Anyone know where I can find this harness or plug? I'd like to avoid a service call and or soldering wires directly to the board.
Thanks Ted, good detail, thanks for taking the time for the video. Your the old Bull teaching the young Bull...stay safe
Is the board dead when it shows no codes?
What’s the name of that brass double spade connector he used on board ?
How do you troubleshoot this board for failed ignition?
i got the same furnace board and i keep getting a code 22, and i get code 57 and 26 when i first install the furnace door
Good video man!
Ted, there are companies that specialize in remanufacturing those boards, and it might be a good way to help someone that is struggling financially.
I have the same board in mine but mine won't ignite?
One honest guy,sure wish he was in my area.He is one Awesome tech.Would hire him in a minute, or partner with him. !
m1 -m2 are mount or park
Nice vid Ted ...Glad there wasn't any mice involved ... Lol ...
You should keep a few zip ties in with your meter, always handy that way
The plastic or nylon standoffs on the control board are the same ones used and computer Technologies and have been the same Wen utilize for the last 38 to 40 years! Soap are needle-nose is more than sufficient to squeeze the little prongs or the thing that locks it into the board and lift the board pass that little plastic locking tab on each four corners of the board
Term board $90. Trane equivalent $390. Good work Ted
Every tech has a phone now. Take a few pics of the board before you replace it is the best thing you can do.
Good advice at the end for other techs.
Black is high speed,
Blue or brown is mid high,
Yellow is mid low, and
Red is low speed. In most single stage units.
good video. Thanks for shared
Excellent content $ informative. You take pride in your work 👍👍
Good video
excellent video thank you
Very nice and neat job. Do the old boards get sent back to be refurbished? or are they junk? Thanks
The relays don't create enough amperage to burn the boards unless you have some high amperage points on the board itself or transistor or heat sink or something of that sort or a high heat resistor or possibly a capacitor if there's part of a power supply on the board itself
Take it from someone who's been professionally replacing or servicing and repair knees boards for almost 40 years
Ted, why do you pay tax on parts?
My cooling speed was set to low. The furnace I have is for 2.5-4 ton. I guess low speed is 1000 CFM. The AC is 2.5 ton. I was told by the installer that it’s a factoring setting that needs adjusting based on static pressure. Otherwise the AC won’t be as efficient and most importantly won’t dehumidify properly.
Did anyone notice for fan speeds he originally installed the RED to HEAT then edit video and I noticed he removed the RED and replaced with the BLUE! Can anyone explain why?
This was done @12 :30 into video and @12:50 it shows it swapped with the BLUE!
This video is very helpful...thank you.
How about taking the wire off the old board and immediately putting it on the new board one of the time. That way you won't have to remember anything. But that would only work if the boards were exactly the same.
Way to go Rat-Boy #LittleJimmy
lol
Nice video. I like the furnace doors they use too...kinda hard to not put on right
I had an older Rheem Criterian that had the same problem. Must be a Rheem thing.
I take one wire off at a time and transfer it to the new board
I take and move that control board up and bend the bracket at a angle.
i have a 100k 80% 2020 furnace and board looks almost identical
Question - what speed tap would you set the cooling on this furnace for a 2.5 Ton without performing a static pressure test? The model is 801TA075417MSA. I think it’s medium low. Want to make sure.
resource.gemaire.com/is/content/Watscocom/Gemaire/rheem_r801ta075417msa_article_1403974088948_en_ss.pdf?fmt=pdf
Where does the safety door switch wire go on white rodgers circuit board ?? Unit is York Diamond 80
I agree I don’t like to bash other company’s in front of the customer.
Ty nice video
Another thank you
The beginning of your video you can do a screenshot and have a photo or screenshot of where all your wires were to begin with before you started removing anything off the board
Excellent training video. Thanks
Excellent video and explanation. Thanks for sharing.
do real HVAC vid and tell how much you charge for the board? whole youtube community scared to show real life price and profit. Would be only 1
Patrick S if I had to guess he charged between 4 and 6 hundred for the entire repair which is fair if that’s the case for diagnosis and providing the part at that cost but it all depends on the company and what it takes for him to make a profit on the job everyone has bills to pay so it varies
My provider wanted 675 for a new board and ignitor. Didnt mentioned labor. Bought em myself. Waitin on the board now
Probably a $5 relay, why not have socketed relays..Oh yea, they want to sell boards.
Somewhat similar relays (with a 12V coil) are in some Kenmore/Electrolux electric stoves where they switch the top and bottom elements. 22V is a very odd voltage, btw.
I love watching your videos but whatever camera device or your editing software makes your audio almost impossible to hear. I can't watch you on my phone because it will not go loud enough to hear you. Most editing software will allow you to boost audio. Thanks for all you do Ted.
Just 2 mak sure l always picture wires b4 removig thm
But I've always wondered why rheem and Rudd are the only ones who energize their heat pumps in heat not cool? ( reversing valve) why be the industry weirdos?
The control board went bad on my Goodman furnace. Goodman wanted $135 for the board but they wouldn't sell it to me because my license has expired. I managed to find the same board for $69 (free shipping) on Ebay. My neighbor paid an HVAC repair guy $550 to replace the same board. My old, failed board lasted 17 years and the flame detection circuit didn't seem to be working any longer. (The flame sensor was not dirty.) The old flame sensor worked just fine with the new board but I replaced the sensor anyway since the ceramic part of the sensor was cracked.
You mean half rat man!!! Still trying to unsee that!
I hate when technicians come with their Overrated Horror Stories of what their about to repair and how stupid the last guy was.All the moaning and groaning.They trying to build the situation up to make themselves sound like the hero of a action movie***. Mutha-$%^& fix the dam thing and get the F outta here wit all that. Nice Video👀😎
I def saved myself a 150 bucksssss haha
Put a date on board, when replaced
Always repair it like its you're equipment