I'd say chemister's insight is actually a full two divinations. The jump-start costs you a card from your hand, but Divination costs a card from your hand too, the divination itself. It seems pretty righteous in this deck.
Powerslave1123 I agree , in the right situation , then you’re totally correct and I agree . Otherwise it’s 2 cards for two cards , a decent trade still if you pull the right cards . I guess it’s all relative.
Still congrats on 100k. Most deserve content creator on yt. You've never needed overly flashy edits or bells and whistles because you're a down to earth person with the straight up content we crave. Much love and be kind.
SideboardMTG maybe detection tower, not sure if Izzet has any good way of dealing with it so i guess the best counter is just to burn them before it can swing in for the kill.
4x teferi 2x ral 1x Niv mizzit 2x sun speaker 4x ionize 2x expansion//explosion 4x lightning strike 3x deafening clarion 2x settle the wreckage 2x mission briefing 3x search for azcanta 1x banefire That's the core I've been using of course make of it as you will but allstars are sun speaker turning your strikes into helix and ionize into life gain, niv for just winning you the game , teferi cause obvious reasons.
So I played izzet counterburn pretty close to this list and went 3-1 would of went 4-0 if I put those fiery canande in the sideboard. I got them in it now!
Dev, just Patreoned up, just wanted to say thanks for all you do my man. I have enjoyed your channel for awhile now, and finally in a good place financially to spread some love! Keep up the great work brotha!
Sweet list! I decided to do something funky with mine with 4 electromancer, couple of guttersnipes and 1 legion warboss in the main as a finisher, but then have a smokescreen board into... goblins! Can't wait to build it, this deck is getting me back into standard.
CounterBurn was my very first personal brew back in Invasion/7th Edition block, to this day it's still my favorite combination. Ravnica called us Izzet and I have embraced it ever since.
I've been playing Golgari Saprolings. The versatility of the deck lets me run underneath conteol decks and can handle aggro rather well. It's value as well, very few 1 for 1s in my deck. The mana base is solid and the deck is so consistent, it wants to win around turn six by stalling the game, though I've had turn four wins against Jeskai and Nexus control. With the burn, this deck feels tight, but 1 for 1s won't cut it in this meta. I feel counter burn is well adjusted to certain decks in the format, but overall won't be able to consistently keep up with all the value decks in the format.
Dev, I just want to thank you for making this deck tech so early in this standard season. I've been playing a similar build and kind of refining it. I've been playing fight with fire as a 2 of finisher/removal in desperate times, 2 treasure maps, and a single copy of thaumatic compass to help me fix my mana/ramp/stop big dudes I can't burn. I've also found that I like to run 4 copies of syncopate as opposed to your 2 mainly because it can counter any card type and the exile clause is huge in this meta. I've also found that I like to run 1 copy of radiating lightning for the super go wide decks. Keep in mind I only play it in BO1 on MTGA. It's got me to gold so far and I've been on a pretty deece win streak the past couple days
I agree, i would love to see him pilot these decks but if you go to the channel of sideboardMTG. He actually does almost every deck dev posts and makes decktechs about and does playtesting with them.
We don’t have tog but we do have dryad replacements for a rug grow/burn setup that can stabilize the board by giving up turn three counters. Might have to check hexproof turn 3 baddies but those fish get really big really quick in a deck like this.
So glad to see people come around to Risk Factor, I was excited for that card the moment it was spoiled and everyone seemed to dislike it, I was lucky enough to get my playset during the 2 pre releases i attended
OK dev ! I do love this deck ! I've been brewing with Izzet CounterBurn for 2 weeks now, and I've come up with a deck similar to this one but i'm using Vance's Blasting Canon for more reach instead of Ral (and because i want Vance to get some love !) and Mission Breifing in the main, this touched my heart. And on the side, as you say i'm using Firemind's Research instead of Niv, because i want my opposant to not have any target for their removals. Anyway thanks for showing what Izzet should be
Hey Dev!!! I loved this deck tech and tried to replicate it on my channel. I also replicated it in real life haha I love this deck! I plan on replicating a lot of your deck techs as your channel has had a lot of influence on my FNM life haha
I've been playing beacon bolt in the sideboard, it's insane against big green creatures (but I also run opts so maybe it's not that great in this deck)
Really excited about this deck. I agree with going with jeskai burn. Access to settle is key against wide decks. Clensing Nova helps and ixalans binding. Plus you could do lyra.
I think this is the best version of the izzet counter-burn deck I've seen so far. I've been running into a bunch of different versions of it on Magic Online and most of them just haven't been that great. I've been playing Dimir Control which you would think would have a bad matchup against the decks but have actually been able to win nearly every match. Niv-Mizzet is the reason I added another copy of Plaguecrafter though. Love being able to kill it without letting the opponent draw a card off of it. This version would probably give me a pretty good challenge. I have also started treating Risk Factor the same way, always letting them draw the 3 cards. Go ahead, draw your 6 cards, then draw 4 more with Chemister's Insight, then draw some more. It doesn't take too long until they are dead cards in hand because the opponents are trying not to deck themselves.
Hey, I just started getting into MTG with Core Set and I really enjoy your videos! I’d love to see some Golgari undergrowth tech if you ever get the chance. Keep up the good content man
I Love it! I've been toying around with the idea, but there are too many tempo cards in izzet so my drafts were diluted.. This is focused! Got 2 ral's during pre and this will blow up SO good!
I was working on this and had a different take... I tried Vance's blasting canons as well as niv mizzet in the main. canon transforms pretty east and makes burning your opponent efficiently easier to calculate
Kind of want to make Izzet for standard and this looks interesting but I think I’ll try and make a izzet deck deck out of guttersnipe and it’s new counterpart.
I do wonder what you would think of adding Jaya Ballard to the deck as well? She can get you more card advantage as well, can ramp you into a STUPIDLY big Banefire or Explosion, and can basically get you a second cast of the non-jump-start instants and sorceries in your deck.
@Strictly Better MtG Hey Dev! I love this deck tech. My favorite deck tech of yours was the Sram Enchantress Deck pre rotation. Will you be updating it using Satyr Enchanter? I really would love to play another enchantress deck for low cost if you have it. Thanks a ton!
Nice deck im playing a hybrid version of this deck with the "prowess" wizards. Risk factor in the wizards burn deck is awesome because at the start of the game they will almost always take 4-8 damage from that card instead of letting you draw 3-6 cards which if they do they are nearly always straight up dead. Oddly enough the right thing to do is let that deck draw. Its a card that has no down side in the right deck ofc.
I am playing a very similar deck to this on MTG Arena, but Im having a tough time with the lack of mission briefing. That card is so versatile, and while I dont see it as a 4 of, I think it earns a 2 of slot in this deck. I will have to try it as you suggest and see if I like it more.
I have been brewing up counter burn with the idea of playong the static wall because then your burn burns so much harder when it sticks ad stays it does so much work
I crossed with Tribal Wizards and am coming up with interesting results. It's consistently dealing a lot of damage fairly quickly or have oppressive control.
I would really recommend using Devious Cover-up in here, two copies because it lets you play a late game without any chance of running out of cards, super good for the late game. This allows you in the late game to keep on refilling your deck with the cards that you want to have from the ones you have discarded to jumpstart, just discarded natively or just cards that you have played and want to have later if you are running out of that specific type of action. Because as a control deck you have several times where you are going to be behind countering all of their things but unable to get stabilized enough to just turn the corner and seeing as you are only going to be running the 4 ionize and just a few other counter pieces you are going to run out of gas if it is say a midrange deck that is going to just keep on pumping out cards nonstop that you may have to one for two bolts and so on to actually kill to keep the board under control. Thinking playing against a midrange deck it is going to be needed to have more counter removal for the late game that will let you go farther and extend it out as long as possible as stated earlier. because against a control deck or a aggro you shouldn't have a problem with your removal getting blanked or having to go one for two. Also this will help function as a late game commit to memory where you shuffle cards back in when needed (granted, it isn't going to give you a grip full of cards back)
I've always liked the idea of blue/red counterburn. Best I've done with it was a deck that did damage using Wall of forgotten Pharaohs, Firebrand Archer, and red burn cards. The walls also obviously helped to stall if I missed a counter. If I got stuck late game and couldn't get enough damage in, I had a Sphinx of Magosi and a Shivan Dragon in there. Not as good as this deck, obviously, but it worked better than I hoped it would. Unfortunately, several of the main cards I used in it are no longer standard legal... =P
Love counterburn, played ton of this deck and I'm shocked that sometime I'm running out of card and damage in long games, especially versus dawn of hope white weenie decks.
just thought i'd mention for anyone who wants to add creatures to this for a change up i'd would highly recommend using adelize the cinder wind legendary for blue red and 1 generic she gives all wizards +1+1 for each instant or sorcery you played that turn
Love this deck building something similar but going jeskai. Can I ask would you consider detection tower in your land base to deal with hexproof creatures
I was building Izzet Counterburn. Then I really just built Wizzet Burn with counters. It plays so fast that a decent hand ends the game in 3-4 turns, but it can still win late game against hard control (Sultai and Jeskai) Give that one a swing.
What about slotting in some river's rebuke for fighting token/aggro that our normal removal can't handle? Lets us stay in Izzit, though the cost is kind of prohibitive.
Thoughts on Devious Cover-up as a counter that gets you value from the GY? Is the shuffle a huge disadvantage to the card or is it worth it to get back 4 spells you would love to draw again?
This is the deck I want to play. I absolutely love the jump-start mechanic, and I ended up getting two copies of Ral, Izzet Viceroy on MtG:A. However, I‘m still missing some of the more important rares, like more than 1 copy of Risk Factor, Ionize and Expansion/Explosion. Is there a viable route going into the direction of stuff like Drakes (Crackling, Enigma)?
I'm curious as to why you didn't run Goblin Electromancers in this. Sometimes it's nice to halve or almost halve the cost of all of the spells you play, plus it would provide a decent ground blocker for Ral in a pinch.
I think there are options to play the drakes,storm,counterburn stuff at least as casual, right? Also what do you think about grixis control? With counterburn
With all those instants and sorceries in the graveyard and in exile, I’d try to find room for a couple crackling Drakes in the main deck just as a secondary win con.
Looks like an awesome deck, probably a bit above my experience level (and budget for that matter) … but i am VERY interested in this color pair for the upcoming standard, there are *about 5 ways* to play R/U in this meta, be it this counter burn deck... OR … R/U Pirates, R/U Wizards, or just R/U budget value (which probably has 2 ways to be build) … And seeing I had great succes with a 16 creatures (8x two-drop, 8x three drop), 21 spells (mostly burn/draw ~ counters in the side) and 23 lands, in a couple of meta's ago, i think there is definitely a budget 'burn/counter' deck very similar in this meta, especially with jumpstart being there as well !
definitely looking like it's going to have to go jeskai [at lest for me local] all playing green stomp and tokens i think the hive mind here can come up with something [thousand-year storm looking awesome too]
I feel like if you cut ral you'll get 2 slots plus at least one more slot with a land being replaced and those 3 slots could be versed to battling more difficult matchups
I've been working on a Jeskai CounterBurn list that pretty much plays every card you mentioned. Let me know what you think. Keep up the good work 😊 Planeswalkers 3 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria 1 Ral, Izzet Viceroy Enchantments 2 Search for Azcanta Spells 3 Sinister Sabotage 4 Ionize 4 Lightning Strike 3 Shivan Fire 2 Fight with Fire 4 Risk Factor 3 Chemister’s Insight 2 Justice Strike 1 Cleansing Nova 3 Settle the Wreckage Lands 3 Island 3 Mountain 2 Plains 1 Field of Ruin 4 Steam Vents 4 Sulfur Falls 4 Sacred Foundry 4 Clifftop Retreat
What do you think about Unwind? I personally like it, it does cost more than essense scatter, but you untap 3 lands, so its essencially a free counter. My friend says its not that great, but idk. what do you think?
Nice one Dev! I'm surprised you didn't mention how good this is against foggy builds. Or maybe you did... anyways! Yay for the first deck of the new season!
I feel like Sonic Assault could be of use too. Not only you tap a creature for a turn, but you deal 2 dmg to the controller and have Jumpstart. It helped quite a lot on my prerelease.
I run just the normal the color card deck for red blue. there is only one way to put white in the deck other then playing the new standard shock land's but if you play the red white izzet gate lands Along with the shock lands you should be fine but i would Adjust using the muilty colors' spell's in A sideboard Along with the red=white planswalker then you can put something in replaced of them when you switch them out.
I play this deck on Arena, albeit slight variations, 4 Opts 3 Shock 2 Lightning Strike 4 Radical Idea 4 Sinister Sabotage 2 Risk Factor 2 Beacon Bolt 3 Ionize 4 Chemister's Insight 3 Hypothesizzle 4 Ral 2 Inescapable Blaze 1 Niv-Mizzet This is my main board, and the only reason I'm not playing the fourth Ionize is because I didn't have a wildcard to acquire the last copy, however I have lost more games decking myself (3 Times) than I have lost to an opponent (Once). The only game I've lost was to a Blue, Black, White deck that ran a Chromium finisher, and I haven't lost any competitive matches with this deck on arena
Cut those Hypothesizzles, the card does not do enough for 5 mana, you are net 0 on cards, and it only deals 4 damage, play more Lightning Strikes, that card is very good.
Seems like boros aggro is the deck to beat on Arena. I'm surprised if counterburn has a chance against it. I really think this deck needs the next Ravnica expansion to make the landbase right for Jeskai control. How does your list do versus Boros?
I think we are going to be having to run jeskai if we want to run counterburn. I say this because there are so many threats that are hexproof that we will not be able to deal with easily at all like Carnage tyrant and Vine mare. Both if these are going to end up causing us a lot of issues, not only because green based decks are much stronger now and that we will not have ways of removing them unless we take a board wipe like start of Extinction or copying maybe the sideboard 2 damage wipe enough times.
Hey Dev, idk if you want to put this to a poll or if you just like it or not but. What do you think about using some MTG arena for videos? Not a whole lot maybe but maybe just a video here and there of you playing with some of these decks that you build and maybe making it a Patreon tier to be able to play with you?! Everyone else if you like this please comment and like it so Dev can see it!
I'd say chemister's insight is actually a full two divinations. The jump-start costs you a card from your hand, but Divination costs a card from your hand too, the divination itself. It seems pretty righteous in this deck.
Powerslave1123 I agree , in the right situation , then you’re totally correct and I agree . Otherwise it’s 2 cards for two cards , a decent trade still if you pull the right cards . I guess it’s all relative.
it's also wayyyy better at instant speed obviously. insight is an insanely good card
Lava Coil is never dead because you can pitch it to jump start.
yeah, same with the main deck Essence Scatters against control matchups
that's true, but you're still going to board them out, id rather have something useful and the option of pitching it if i need to.
Oh yeah, totally. It's just nice that the cards aren't totally dead in game one.
@@matterhorn731 funny that before essence scatter was awesome against control because off gearhulk, but now it's completely useless
control decks don't run dream eater?
Still congrats on 100k. Most deserve content creator on yt. You've never needed overly flashy edits or bells and whistles because you're a down to earth person with the straight up content we crave. Much love and be kind.
This
And he's got a cat that likes to be on camera...can't forget that!!
This freakin cat looks forward to these videos almost as much as I do
I will start streaming these on the 7th when I have all the cards.
Link?
@@psychomagi just click my picture I stream here on youtube.
better get a plan for Carnage Tyrant
@@mgrose75 oh wow how would you answer that in izzet? Star of extinction? Sleep? Rebuke? None of these sound good.
SideboardMTG maybe detection tower, not sure if Izzet has any good way of dealing with it so i guess the best counter is just to burn them before it can swing in for the kill.
I did the same thing I started building izzet counterburn and ended up at jeskai! Do that tech dev
chris johnston list?
4x teferi
2x ral
1x Niv mizzit
2x sun speaker
4x ionize
2x expansion//explosion
4x lightning strike
3x deafening clarion
2x settle the wreckage
2x mission briefing
3x search for azcanta
1x banefire
That's the core I've been using of course make of it as you will but allstars are sun speaker turning your strikes into helix and ionize into life gain, niv for just winning you the game , teferi cause obvious reasons.
Kel'Thuzad I asked for list and he gave it. Don’t be negative
no nexus? I mean, i dont have the card but it sounds fitting when you have niv, teferi, search and ral...
So I played izzet counterburn pretty close to this list and went 3-1 would of went 4-0 if I put those fiery canande in the sideboard. I got them in it now!
Dev, just Patreoned up, just wanted to say thanks for all you do my man. I have enjoyed your channel for awhile now, and finally in a good place financially to spread some love! Keep up the great work brotha!
Waiting for other MTG TH-camrs to realize cats make videos 50x better 🐈
more like 500x
Sweet list! I decided to do something funky with mine with 4 electromancer, couple of guttersnipes and 1 legion warboss in the main as a finisher, but then have a smokescreen board into... goblins! Can't wait to build it, this deck is getting me back into standard.
Played against that deck on Arena recently
Ay congrats on the 100k subs! I'm stoked for this deck. I played Izzit a bunch at prerelease so I have most of these cards already.
Good design, man- love your whole attitude towards building! I loved counter burn 20 years ago & I will happily make it Jeskai counter burn now!
I've been testing a slightly different version of this since Friday and I LOOOOVE it!!! Thanks Dev!
CounterBurn was my very first personal brew back in Invasion/7th Edition block, to this day it's still my favorite combination. Ravnica called us Izzet and I have embraced it ever since.
I've been playing Golgari Saprolings. The versatility of the deck lets me run underneath conteol decks and can handle aggro rather well. It's value as well, very few 1 for 1s in my deck. The mana base is solid and the deck is so consistent, it wants to win around turn six by stalling the game, though I've had turn four wins against Jeskai and Nexus control. With the burn, this deck feels tight, but 1 for 1s won't cut it in this meta. I feel counter burn is well adjusted to certain decks in the format, but overall won't be able to consistently keep up with all the value decks in the format.
I use Chaos wand and fiery Cannonade, against saps. Happens to work quite well
Dev, I just want to thank you for making this deck tech so early in this standard season. I've been playing a similar build and kind of refining it. I've been playing fight with fire as a 2 of finisher/removal in desperate times, 2 treasure maps, and a single copy of thaumatic compass to help me fix my mana/ramp/stop big dudes I can't burn. I've also found that I like to run 4 copies of syncopate as opposed to your 2 mainly because it can counter any card type and the exile clause is huge in this meta. I've also found that I like to run 1 copy of radiating lightning for the super go wide decks. Keep in mind I only play it in BO1 on MTGA. It's got me to gold so far and I've been on a pretty deece win streak the past couple days
Btw nailed the intro on this one! Love the new intro card, music, and the fade into the vid. Definitely a keeper!
Yo this guy's deck is sick but the bars are sicker
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Dev, love the content but have you thought of adding a little gameplay to these deck techs? Would love to watch you play through these decks
I agree, i would love to see him pilot these decks but if you go to the channel of sideboardMTG. He actually does almost every deck dev posts and makes decktechs about and does playtesting with them.
Fund him a full collection of moto or arena cards and I bet he will
He could use my Moto account and cards
We don’t have tog but we do have dryad replacements for a rug grow/burn setup that can stabilize the board by giving up turn three counters. Might have to check hexproof turn 3 baddies but those fish get really big really quick in a deck like this.
I do love me some Izzet. Ionize and Risk Factor definitely two of my favorite cards from this set. Also can't wait to see your Selesyna list Dev.
So glad to see people come around to Risk Factor, I was excited for that card the moment it was spoiled and everyone seemed to dislike it, I was lucky enough to get my playset during the 2 pre releases i attended
OK dev ! I do love this deck ! I've been brewing with Izzet CounterBurn for 2 weeks now, and I've come up with a deck similar to this one but i'm using Vance's Blasting Canon for more reach instead of Ral (and because i want Vance to get some love !) and Mission Breifing in the main, this touched my heart.
And on the side, as you say i'm using Firemind's Research instead of Niv, because i want my opposant to not have any target for their removals.
Anyway thanks for showing what Izzet should be
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This deck is seriously tempting! Great job as always man!
Hey Dev!!! I loved this deck tech and tried to replicate it on my channel. I also replicated it in real life haha I love this deck! I plan on replicating a lot of your deck techs as your channel has had a lot of influence on my FNM life haha
I've been playing beacon bolt in the sideboard, it's insane against big green creatures (but I also run opts so maybe it's not that great in this deck)
Really excited about this deck. I agree with going with jeskai burn.
Access to settle is key against wide decks.
Clensing Nova helps and ixalans binding. Plus you could do lyra.
So glad to see ionize and risk factor in this deck! Been toying with these for the last week o/
Sick deck dev!! Building this deck for sure. I love it man!!
I think this is the best version of the izzet counter-burn deck I've seen so far. I've been running into a bunch of different versions of it on Magic Online and most of them just haven't been that great. I've been playing Dimir Control which you would think would have a bad matchup against the decks but have actually been able to win nearly every match. Niv-Mizzet is the reason I added another copy of Plaguecrafter though. Love being able to kill it without letting the opponent draw a card off of it. This version would probably give me a pretty good challenge. I have also started treating Risk Factor the same way, always letting them draw the 3 cards. Go ahead, draw your 6 cards, then draw 4 more with Chemister's Insight, then draw some more. It doesn't take too long until they are dead cards in hand because the opponents are trying not to deck themselves.
Hey, I just started getting into MTG with Core Set and I really enjoy your videos! I’d love to see some Golgari undergrowth tech if you ever get the chance. Keep up the good content man
Cheers Dev. Love izzet and am road testing the deck on Arena with good success
I Love it! I've been toying around with the idea, but there are too many tempo cards in izzet so my drafts were diluted.. This is focused! Got 2 ral's during pre and this will blow up SO good!
Electromancer is such a nice piece for counterburn, surprised you didn't mention it 🤔
I was working on this and had a different take... I tried Vance's blasting canons as well as niv mizzet in the main. canon transforms pretty east and makes burning your opponent efficiently easier to calculate
Kind of want to make Izzet for standard and this looks interesting but I think I’ll try and make a izzet deck deck out of guttersnipe and it’s new counterpart.
I would just go straight with electro field. Its quicker to get out, more survivable, and does the job just as good as a 4 of
@@ArieBeaudoin true especially if you plan to run Fiery Cannonade as a red sweeper; Guttersnipe is just so easy to remove at just 2 toughness
I do wonder what you would think of adding Jaya Ballard to the deck as well? She can get you more card advantage as well, can ramp you into a STUPIDLY big Banefire or Explosion, and can basically get you a second cast of the non-jump-start instants and sorceries in your deck.
@Strictly Better MtG
Hey Dev! I love this deck tech. My favorite deck tech of yours was the Sram Enchantress Deck pre rotation. Will you be updating it using Satyr Enchanter? I really would love to play another enchantress deck for low cost if you have it.
Thanks a ton!
Nice deck im playing a hybrid version of this deck with the "prowess" wizards. Risk factor in the wizards burn deck is awesome because at the start of the game they will almost always take 4-8 damage from that card instead of letting you draw 3-6 cards which if they do they are nearly always straight up dead. Oddly enough the right thing to do is let that deck draw. Its a card that has no down side in the right deck ofc.
I am playing a very similar deck to this on MTG Arena, but Im having a tough time with the lack of mission briefing. That card is so versatile, and while I dont see it as a 4 of, I think it earns a 2 of slot in this deck. I will have to try it as you suggest and see if I like it more.
I have been brewing up counter burn with the idea of playong the static wall because then your burn burns so much harder when it sticks ad stays it does so much work
This and Izzet a wizard harry are the decks I’m excited for
First deck I built on arena after rotation was jeski control. It's great!!
I crossed with Tribal Wizards and am coming up with interesting results. It's consistently dealing a lot of damage fairly quickly or have oppressive control.
4:39 BURN COOOOORRRREEEEEEEEE sounds like another niche music genre that really likes fire
I would really recommend using Devious Cover-up in here, two copies because it lets you play a late game without any chance of running out of cards, super good for the late game.
This allows you in the late game to keep on refilling your deck with the cards that you want to have from the ones you have discarded to jumpstart, just discarded natively or just cards that you have played and want to have later if you are running out of that specific type of action. Because as a control deck you have several times where you are going to be behind countering all of their things but unable to get stabilized enough to just turn the corner and seeing as you are only going to be running the 4 ionize and just a few other counter pieces you are going to run out of gas if it is say a midrange deck that is going to just keep on pumping out cards nonstop that you may have to one for two bolts and so on to actually kill to keep the board under control.
Thinking playing against a midrange deck it is going to be needed to have more counter removal for the late game that will let you go farther and extend it out as long as possible as stated earlier. because against a control deck or a aggro you shouldn't have a problem with your removal getting blanked or having to go one for two.
Also this will help function as a late game commit to memory where you shuffle cards back in when needed (granted, it isn't going to give you a grip full of cards back)
Just what I was looking for! Thank you!
I've always liked the idea of blue/red counterburn. Best I've done with it was a deck that did damage using Wall of forgotten Pharaohs, Firebrand Archer, and red burn cards. The walls also obviously helped to stall if I missed a counter. If I got stuck late game and couldn't get enough damage in, I had a Sphinx of Magosi and a Shivan Dragon in there. Not as good as this deck, obviously, but it worked better than I hoped it would. Unfortunately, several of the main cards I used in it are no longer standard legal... =P
No Guttersnipe or Goblin Electromancer?
It's to slow for a deck that's half control, those cards are better in pure burn
as usual...very cool opening intro song..bravo bro
1:23 to 1:37 has some badass rhymes, yo, together with those things about Ionize, you guys.
15:55 you have exactly 2 sorceries right?
Love counterburn, played ton of this deck and I'm shocked that sometime I'm running out of card and damage in long games, especially versus dawn of hope white weenie decks.
Hey Dev, have you seen the most recent 5-0 MTGO Comp league lists? There was a pretty sweet Arclight Phoenix Izzet deck you might like.
I don't know why, but I love it when your cat is in the video...
CyricD because you love the p..... never mind , it was too easy
just thought i'd mention for anyone who wants to add creatures to this for a change up i'd would highly recommend using adelize the cinder wind legendary for blue red and 1 generic she gives all wizards +1+1 for each instant or sorcery you played that turn
I really want to make a similar deck but using goblin electromancer and guttersnipes. Not sure how well it would work though
firemind's research is a good alternative to search for azcanta. let's you draw early if you need it and can act as late game burn reach or removal
15:03
Hell yea! GRN Decks with Dev! 100K! WOO!
Izzet too late to comment?
GTFO
Izzet to early for another pun?
Thank you
better than gogarling to the graveyard...
Dimir so I can hit you for that pun
Love this deck building something similar but going jeskai. Can I ask would you consider detection tower in your land base to deal with hexproof creatures
You have the right idea for Jeskai. It just feels so solid against everything.
I was building Izzet Counterburn. Then I really just built Wizzet Burn with counters.
It plays so fast that a decent hand ends the game in 3-4 turns, but it can still win late game against hard control (Sultai and Jeskai)
Give that one a swing.
What about slotting in some river's rebuke for fighting token/aggro that our normal removal can't handle? Lets us stay in Izzit, though the cost is kind of prohibitive.
Thoughts on Devious Cover-up as a counter that gets you value from the GY? Is the shuffle a huge disadvantage to the card or is it worth it to get back 4 spells you would love to draw again?
What about Capture Sphere for big creatures? Maybe just a couple to catch whatever you dont manage to counter?
Thanks Dev, Izzet for the win! I think sideboard could use a card that controls oppents creatures.
Do selesnya tokens
Yassss!!! The deck I'm most excited about, and devs best opening tune!! You the best brother
This is the deck I want to play. I absolutely love the jump-start mechanic, and I ended up getting two copies of Ral, Izzet Viceroy on MtG:A. However, I‘m still missing some of the more important rares, like more than 1 copy of Risk Factor, Ionize and Expansion/Explosion. Is there a viable route going into the direction of stuff like Drakes (Crackling, Enigma)?
Would like to see a update version of Goblins an a good Boros Deck
I was betting on golgari to be my go to guild. In the presentation I slamed dimir with mixed results. But today on constructed, izzet looks great!
have you tested a more burn oriented build utilizing guttersnipe and electromancer?
I'm curious as to why you didn't run Goblin Electromancers in this. Sometimes it's nice to halve or almost halve the cost of all of the spells you play, plus it would provide a decent ground blocker for Ral in a pinch.
Congrats on the 100k!
I think there are options to play the drakes,storm,counterburn stuff at least as casual, right? Also what do you think about grixis control? With counterburn
With all those instants and sorceries in the graveyard and in exile, I’d try to find room for a couple crackling Drakes in the main deck just as a secondary win con.
My Counter Burn
Creatures :
4x Electrostatic Field
4x Guttersnipe
2x Erratic Cyclops
4x Crackling Drake
Spells:
4x Cancel
4x Ionize
4x Radical Idea
4x Risk Factor
4x Shock
4x Lightning Strike
2x Beacon Bolt
Lands:
2x Steam Vents
4x Izzet Guild Gate
8x Island
8x Mountain
Looks like an awesome deck, probably a bit above my experience level (and budget for that matter) … but i am VERY interested in this color pair for the upcoming standard, there are *about 5 ways* to play R/U in this meta, be it this counter burn deck... OR … R/U Pirates, R/U Wizards, or just R/U budget value (which probably has 2 ways to be build) … And seeing I had great succes with a 16 creatures (8x two-drop, 8x three drop), 21 spells (mostly burn/draw ~ counters in the side) and 23 lands, in a couple of meta's ago, i think there is definitely a budget 'burn/counter' deck very similar in this meta, especially with jumpstart being there as well !
definitely looking like it's going to have to go jeskai [at lest for me local] all playing green stomp and tokens i think the hive mind here can come up with something [thousand-year storm looking awesome too]
Cool deck. This seems like a deck I would be really interested in trying
I was wondering if adding Guttersnipe and Goblin Electromancer
Probably if you can't afford ral
I feel like if you cut ral you'll get 2 slots plus at least one more slot with a land being replaced and those 3 slots could be versed to battling more difficult matchups
would love to see the complete jeskai build
I've been working on a Jeskai CounterBurn list that pretty much plays every card you mentioned. Let me know what you think. Keep up the good work 😊
Planeswalkers
3 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
1 Ral, Izzet Viceroy
Enchantments
2 Search for Azcanta
Spells
3 Sinister Sabotage
4 Ionize
4 Lightning Strike
3 Shivan Fire
2 Fight with Fire
4 Risk Factor
3 Chemister’s Insight
2 Justice Strike
1 Cleansing Nova
3 Settle the Wreckage
Lands
3 Island
3 Mountain
2 Plains
1 Field of Ruin
4 Steam Vents
4 Sulfur Falls
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Clifftop Retreat
What do you think about Unwind? I personally like it, it does cost more than essense scatter, but you untap 3 lands, so its essencially a free counter. My friend says its not that great, but idk. what do you think?
Niv Mizzet one of main board! Just untapping once with him is amazing, I've done some pretty nasty combos with that dragon!
Fantastic looking deck!
Nice one Dev! I'm surprised you didn't mention how good this is against foggy builds. Or maybe you did... anyways! Yay for the first deck of the new season!
It's late in the video, while I'm talking about power rankings, but yeah, I mention it. The absolute best matchup for this deck.
If I were looking to add white, what cards should I be looking to take out and how many should I be looking to put in
I feel like Sonic Assault could be of use too. Not only you tap a creature for a turn, but you deal 2 dmg to the controller and have Jumpstart. It helped quite a lot on my prerelease.
Limited and standard enviroments are drastically different.
That wasn't the point.
Could you try a budget mono blue mill with patient rebuilding and psychic corrosion?
No wonder today I played against 5 of 8 matches against, great job Dev
0:42 lmao, thats so petty yet so funny.
I run just the normal the color card deck for red blue. there is only one way to put white in the deck other then playing the new standard shock land's but if you play the red white izzet gate lands Along with the shock lands you should be fine but i would Adjust using the muilty colors' spell's in A sideboard Along with the red=white planswalker then you can put something in replaced of them when you switch them out.
What do you think on a list that splash black for sword-point diplomacy in the main?
I play this deck on Arena, albeit slight variations,
4 Opts
3 Shock
2 Lightning Strike
4 Radical Idea
4 Sinister Sabotage
2 Risk Factor
2 Beacon Bolt
3 Ionize
4 Chemister's Insight
3 Hypothesizzle
4 Ral
2 Inescapable Blaze
1 Niv-Mizzet
This is my main board, and the only reason I'm not playing the fourth Ionize is because I didn't have a wildcard to acquire the last copy, however I have lost more games decking myself (3 Times) than I have lost to an opponent (Once). The only game I've lost was to a Blue, Black, White deck that ran a Chromium finisher, and I haven't lost any competitive matches with this deck on arena
Cut those Hypothesizzles, the card does not do enough for 5 mana, you are net 0 on cards, and it only deals 4 damage, play more Lightning Strikes, that card is very good.
Seems like boros aggro is the deck to beat on Arena. I'm surprised if counterburn has a chance against it. I really think this deck needs the next Ravnica expansion to make the landbase right for Jeskai control. How does your list do versus Boros?
I've played against a couple of boros decks, but I keep coming out on top. And Hypothosizzle hits thing Lightning strike doesn't
I think we are going to be having to run jeskai if we want to run counterburn. I say this because there are so many threats that are hexproof that we will not be able to deal with easily at all like Carnage tyrant and Vine mare. Both if these are going to end up causing us a lot of issues, not only because green based decks are much stronger now and that we will not have ways of removing them unless we take a board wipe like start of Extinction or copying maybe the sideboard 2 damage wipe enough times.
Hey Dev, idk if you want to put this to a poll or if you just like it or not but. What do you think about using some MTG arena for videos? Not a whole lot maybe but maybe just a video here and there of you playing with some of these decks that you build and maybe making it a Patreon tier to be able to play with you?!
Everyone else if you like this please comment and like it so Dev can see it!
Would the combo of Goblin Electromancer and Guttersnipe be out of place here?