I would not say it is necessarily broken but they printed bunch of stuff that synergizes well with it, because at this point Blizzard's idea of balancing seems to be: "Who cares? It will rotate out eventually anyway."
9:32 But I see a Deathrattle Hunter deck with Serpent Egg, Bloated Python, Zixor, Augmented Porcupine and Teron Gorefiend and activators being Mok-Nathal Lion and Trueaim Crescent!
@@jakebit9467 what are you talking about, he discussed a bunch of new decks/old weaker decks and where they could go in a new meta. He just doesn't think deathrattle hunter will hold a candle to highlander hunter
@@jakebit9467 lmao no, he just realizes that cards like the Bloated Python are just bad, no matter what deck you want to put them into. It's basically a worse version of the 5/4 hunter dormant demon.
@@masterpotato2162 If you just play the new Alleycat before it or have two other beasts on board it's 1 mana deal 4. That's not trash. It has to be in a beast focused deck though and we've yet to see if that will work.
That deck sounds stupid and completely unviable, so I'm playing it first thing when the expansion comes out. Survival of the fittest bunnies, here I come.
@@andyspendlove1019 you're reading too much into it. He's just saying that if you have the choice between "a random 3 drop" and "a 1/2 taunt" you're pretty much never going to pick the 1/2 taunt, because the average outcome of picking the random 3 drop option is so much better.
I still don't get their refusal to keep around key words from set to set. Like, Guardian Animals is just recruit 2 minions that cost 5 or less and give them rush, but they just don't want to use the word 'recruit' to describe what the card does.
While I agree that makes sense, they would need to reintroduce it for players, cuz the keyword is almost 3 years old at this point. IDK if thats really worth it, especially with how simple the wording is. Inspire and enrage have similar issues
@@Elephanthobo Yuo know how to fix that? When you mouse over the card in your collection, or even while in-game, a tooltip pops up explaining. Or you have a section in your game to explain basic mechanics. It is insanely easy. And you don't have to reintroduce players to things if you just never stop using the word.
I'm gonna try to make Professor Slate work because in the right situations he can do wonders. Just today in fact, I played against a Druid who had used survival of the fittest and managed to take down 4 of his big minions with Rapid fire alone.
For the Omu OTK deck, in order to cheat out waaaaay more damage, you could maeiv the omu after you play it, when it awakens you can play the ysiel, germination, malygos, any spell, then play all of the spells. In order to get better draws, you could also put polkelt in to draw the ysiel, Omu, maiev, and damage spells like starfire or swipe
No thanks. If you do that you spend 9 mana summoning a 4/3, and then have to wait for two turns before your combo comes online. I wouldn't bet on your even surviving until that point, but even if you do, there's no real upside. If Druid had a ton of damage spells, sure, you could make an argument for it. But do you know how many spells that can deal damage directly to face Druid has? It's three. Moonfire, Swipe and Starfire. Two cards you can already fit into the normal combo, and a 6 mana deal 5 spell which is just terrible outside of the combo - putting in cards like that is just going to ensure that you never survive long enough to pull it off in the first place. So you're just massively overcomplicating your combo, and putting in bad cards like Ysiel, for no real upside, because the standard Malygos combo already deals 30 damage, 36 if you play the second Germination instead of a Swipe, or 50 damage if you play Lightning Bloom - a card you'll be running in your deck anyway - alongside the others. It's a fun combo, sure, but it's just objectively worse than the normal one IMO.
@@sympathism I mean but then why would you need to make Omu dormant? You can just Omu, Germination, Malygos, Moonfire, Moonfire, Swipe, Swipe. You're just replacing Germination with Maiev in your example, which just makes your combo slower with no upside. The reason you would want the Maiev is if you're going for a Ysiel combo, since that lets you cast 10+ spells in the same turn with Malygos already on the board, but like I mentioned, You can do enough damage with the normal combo, which is much good enough and much more consistent.
On turn 9 you can do kealthas, double lightning bloom, Forest warden Omu, survival of the fittest, Anubisath Defender, Guardian Animals, and still have enough mana to hero power.
If you use Germination on Omu, the copy WON"T have spellburst. Because it's a copy, not a new card. So you refresh mana only once. (sry fro bad english)
Imagine in Wild dinotamer +Shan'do + Keleseth (I think that was the 3 cost one that transform es), reduced cost through the classic Combo Deck way. Boom, nearly otk
That makes no sense since he rates the cards individually, judging them if they'd be viable in any tier 1,2,3 etc decks. He isn't going to give 10 ratings for every neutral card is he? He will just rate them if there is any deck that can use them...
I feel like everyone forgot about ysiel windslinger because she wasn't very good last set but now that druid seems to be a very big spell class she could be a good card to run in you're druid spell burst decks
Just one question. When Magehunter attacks will the silence happen before or after the attack? So if let's say he attacks a minion with divine shield - will the divine shield be silenced and then it attacks or will he attack into the divine shield and then silence whichever effects are left on that minion?
I think if Keleseth with his major restriction can be good, Shan'do can be, too, even if a deck nearly only with beasts in it seems a bit tough...but im eager to try it or even both in epic wild experiments haha ;)
How are you rating the dual class cards? Do they get the higher rating of the two classes? The lower? Average? It seems like you are just giving it a rating based off the first class you review it for, but It's not explained in the video.
Don't think about classes, think about decks. Trump rates cards based on what representation it got in the meta, it doesn't matter which class they are used in, but you could think that the rating is almost always the higher. I mean think about neutrals, did they get and average rating based on how they are used in all 10 classes? No, they get 5 stars if they are in a tier 1 deck and 1 star if they have
Combination of Kaelthas, Omu and Gidra: Play Omu and then Germination, then play Kaelthas and any other cheap spell of 3 mana, then play another cheap spell followed by gidra then finish with a free survival of the fittest. You then have a 15/20 Gidra 2 Omus with 9/8, a Kaelthas with buffs.
Unfortunatelly those cheap spells will waste both Omu's effect. What you can do is Omu, Germination, gain 10 mana, Kael, Gidra, 0-cost spell, gain 10 mana, Survival for 10 and 2nd Survival for 0. Gidra doesn't get extra stats from it's effect, but it's literally impossible to Gidra + Survival on the same turn, no matter how you manipulate it.
As someone who played the hell out of ramp embiggen dragon Druid in the latest expansions, I can tell you that I'm intensely skeptical of these cards working. It seems to be much better aggainst aggro than that deck thanks to Guardian Animals giving the pulled minions rush, but it doesn't seem any more effective against heavy control highlander decks. Though of course the hope is that DH scares those decks away somewhat.
@13:30 "In that kind of (control) deck, you might consider Glide over Skull of Gul'dan" Yeah, in the deck that DOESN'T drop its entire hand due to middling costs rather than vomiting every cheap card in the game, the best play is definitely to play the card draw card which wants your hand to be EMPTY because its effective card draw is limited in value by your current hand size. Glide is, by far, at its worst in a slow DH deck. If anything, you avoid soul fragments to run Skull, not the other way around.
I think he said the version he made was more tempo based, which can in the late game does run out of cards in hand. I get that in control, it's really bad but I don't think that's what he was talking about.
Star Student Stelina reminds me so much of Loatheb. Players were saying that Loatheb was going to be the answer to Miracle rogue/Freeze Mage type decks, and then it came out and it was an amazing card, but it was sorta played in decks as a sort of Tempo tool. You hoped to play it while just a little bit ahead, you disrupted your opponents next turn hopefully, while putting a body on board. I think she can fit in just about anything regardless of the meta, and that Glide is the more conditionally good card. Trueaim Crescent in DH seems really good... 1 Mana, have a weapon to trigger all your attack triggers for 4 turns while giving your minions possible rush seems really damn good in Tempo decks, and players have already cut Warglaives so I don't think tempo DH is weapon heavy right now. Really wouldn't surprise me if that weapon was nerfed by 1 charge.
Been trying a Big Druid deck.... dunno how it's going to look, long term but just got off THE combo: Omu, Germinate Alex, Strength in #'s Survival (2nd one) 30 mana in one turn, had 2 Omus (one with taunt), and Alex down- he was at 15 health and all my minions were +8/+8....
Hey Jens, the cards are a bit small for me who has never seen them before. Maybe only make them small when showing all if them at the end. If just a handful of them are on screen it would be helpful to make them a bit bigger.
I know it would help you, but like near the whole set of cards are all up in a minute and it just be hard to make an animation that cycles the cards sizes in that time frame. I'd suggest just looking on the play hearthstone site to see all the cards
Fel Guardians combos really well with the Demon Hunter summon X 1/1 rush cards. I can see it costing 0 mana often in that deck. The rush cards may find a home as pseudo removal in control.
Remind me, are there any other good five drop Beasts you really want to pull from the Guardian Animals? Because I'm really not seeing it if it's one very specific card to pull out very specific cards, and then hope you haven't drawn both copies...
Nope. Those 2 he mentioned. Crystal stag/stranglethorn tiger/ stampeding kodo are the only 5 mana beasts druid can play atm. Hunter has nerfed buzzard and tundra rhino, so not very good either
Shando Wildclaw is amazing in the survival of the fittest deck for just 3 mana u can copy a buffed up minion with stats like 10/12. No way it is only 2 Stars
@Krebsiboy1 The problem is that Shan'do is a legendary, and if and only if you get that combo off is he good in the deck, 3 Mana 3/3 is underwhelming and too slow, even if you buff most of your deck, and I, (or rather, TrumpSC) doesn't think that the situation is prevalent enough to warrant throwing in a most of the time underwhelming card.
@Krebsiboy1 The issue with that is that it turns it into an extreme win more card. If you get the whole buff thing off you only have one job: get buffed stuff on the board. Wildclaw doesn't actually do that by default, it requires you to already have stuff. The way hearthstone works right now is also a bit different. It doesn't really help you win in most cases to double your threats. A lot of games are a ping pong of crazy swing turns for each player until one of them runs out of them and loses. The actual size of the threat/swing is less relevant than having it. The only exception are aggro decks which simply care about enough damage before they lose the board so they can finish you off afterwards with their remaining resources.
@@AndrewS-vu4ji and @Peter Johannsen like Alan C said at turn 10 u can play it together with winged guardian and even if it isnt buffed u get 6/8 not targetable and rebirth for 3 mana that's so worth it. And even if u just copy the 2 new 5 mana beast without them having any buffs its already worth it. The +1/+1 Choice is just crap but the stats u get on board for 3 Mana is just insane.
Its a neutral Card, so He didnt Cover it yet. Seems since it isnt sticky and doesnt have stealth its worse then the Other 5 Drops, but still decent, especially with rush
DH is going to have some extra burn with Soulshard Lapidary. I wonder if a burn deck ever comes about? Having 2x Marrow Slicers, 2x Lapidary, 2x Glaivebound Adept, and Metamorphosis seems like dangerously consistent burn once you approach that midgame.
This expansion looks so much fun as long as you dont play against these exact classes. All 3 of these classes will have a tier 1 deck that feels garbage to play against
@@ΣερτηςΠαπας though priest does get under my skin I can recognize that priests roll in hearthstone is to keep aggro for getting out of control. I don't like them but I can accept them(for the most part)
yeah but priest beats aggro, tons of removal, healing and taunts, totally ruins combo decks with the new legendary and fares well against heavy control because of galakrond, mass ressurect and plague of death, knowing that, i always feel awful when i face priest with any deck, waiting 20 minutrs to slowly get outvalued or until turn 5 to concede when i play a face deck. Sure priest is not tier 1 but it feels worse tham all the tier one decks (don't get me started on wild, the raza unnerf revived the 30 hp or under means you are dead nightmare)
You're underestimating mage hunter trump, 3* card minimum. It is a major tool to use that even if it doesnt have a use you can trade off the silence for a body at least.
Trump you should have rated the dual class cards based on the class you are playing, if Guardian Animals in druid is 5 stars and hunters doesn't have an use for it then consider it as a 2 or 1 star for hunter rather than keeping it 5 star all around.
I feel like carrion studies is better than one star, mostly because of the discount and the fact that the discount carries over. All of sudden the Geddon + Lion combo can happen a turn earlier. Still though, at best I see Deathrattle hunter will at best be a tier 2 deck, more likely tier 3.
Can't help but think Magehunter will come back to bite Trump with that 1 star rating - Demon Hunters weakness are big taunt minions and that removes that barrier. Surely it has a place in aggro and tempo play? It also has a little versatility in dealing with low cost deathrattles as a bonus.
I agree with most of these ratings, but I think True-Aim Crescent is more powerful than it looks. You have to build around it, but I can think it's great with minions with 0-power. You can suicide eggs into minions with it! EDIT: Oh geez, I just thought of something else. It's great for taking down Doomsayers. 2X EDIT: Just thought of something else. This essentially gives all minions (frozen or asleep) Rush the turn you swing with it. Yeah, I'd up the star rating on this one.
Wait if i use a card that gives me a card from my opponents class, Do the cards that can be used by two classes are possible to get, or not? (Sry for bad english)
Yes, dual class cards count as both classes. They show up in the discoverpool of both classes. For example: if you discover a mage spell, mage/shaman and mage/rogue spells can show up. If you use the 4 mana rogue pirate, i'm not sure if you can get rogue/mage and rogue/warrior spells, since they are both rogue spells and spells from another class. My gut tells me you shouldn't get them, but I'm not sure
Which ones do you have in mind? They all don’t seem to especially benefit from embiggen, at least not in any unique way. Gibberling will still only summon a 1/1. The rush windfury one could probably be pretty sick though, that’s the only one that stands out to me
@@ML-mx3mm that and the hunter druid card, shindo? She would be amazing because either A) Early game works for increasing "Enbiggen" effect more possible B) Late game being able to replace hydra that is incredible (if it copies its stats) because an 11 / 11 rush that gives 8 cost minion from attack isn't bad, especially having two of them. ( I even use it in my dragon Enbiggen deck and works magically). More value to a value filled class atm
@@darkgrundi9543 i don't know why you're assuming the card can only be used to establish a board maybe you have 2 or 3 mid size totems up, you play this on turn 6, get rush, maybe buff them, and you can clear the board, keep what you have, and maybe even strengthen your board. Or maybe they've burnt all their board clear wiping out your totems and now you have even more fuel. I'm not saying the card is 5 star but you clearly aren't thinking big enough.
If you people think overestimating a card is rating it 2 stars because it will see experimentation in a tier 3/4 deck, I'd love to see what you consider underestimating a card is.
I disagree that Teacher's Pet is better Sludge Belcher. Sludge Belcher was good because it was reasonable statted taunt that spawned another taunt. You didn't play it for stats you played it for reliable defense. The same reason you play Khartut Defender.
So how is Trump going to organize these reviews going forward? Is he doing 3 classes, then 3, then 3, then 1 with the neutrals? Or is one of these reviews going to have 4 classes?
So next videos will be: Warlock, Priest and Paladin. Followed by: Warrior, Rogue, Mage and Shaman? Potentially could make Warrior the fourth of the 2nd vid instead.
I think bloated python might actually be pretty good. Egg hunter rn is solid (not great but solid) and python seems like a good fit for that. Not top tier but not 1 star
Update: I would like to bump my rating of Nature Studies to 5 Stars.
The 5 star man
trump wanna twerk on me?
@@Benjlmao1996 Wtf monkaS
Trump Would you consider telling us why exactly? :3
we will not let you
You one of my favorite streamers bro keep up the geeky nerdy vibes because you represent us in the bigger light of things
it’s my favorite part about him
I don't think you need to worry about him not keeping it up because he actually is a pretty big nerd which is a good thing :)
...speak for yourself nerd 💯💯
Also don’t forget Trump has mad game too!
yes, yes, I've been waiting for this. Trump is the only reviewer brave enough to take real risks.
Regis too but ok.
@@dodogamusghaul Regis is to chill, he rates most cards 3 stars which are the safest ratings you could give.
How our language has been watered down, remember when being a firefighter was brave?
you are trying to say that he is completely wrong this time.
@@WhiskeyFiend bruh
I really appreciate the organized format of these reviews.
I love how respected and anticipated Trumps Card Reviews are in the Hearthstone community
Maybe it loses in pride and glory only for "Trump reviews Trump Reviews"
Lmao Trump spent so long on stream figuring out how to start the video with the dual-class circle, and then Jens cut it all out
Whats there to figure? Just pick one class and go on from there
And now he moves into the wrong direction. All the way backwards.
@heeey eeey eat the rich viva la revolution
Gonna call it, they're gonna nerf Kael'thas to make the third spell cost (1) instead of (0)
Just the druid package alone will make it certain
@Radjon as long as we get dust... But we probably won't
@@afonsotopa9164 you got the card for free, dude
But my people are addicted to power :(
nice
Turn 2 Breath of Dreams,turn 3 Overgrowth into turn 4 Bloom & Ysera
*Y O U R T U R N*
or just turn 1 Coin/Innervate, Bloom, Overgrowth.
*your opponent left*
Hex
to flee
5:07 Spiteful Summoner says ”Pre-Nerf” even though it’s been buffed back to that state
Holy crap I completely forgot about that. Cheers!
Yeah but all these nerds are standard players who don't know that... including trump
@@alexcaffri9091 The editor is Jens, actually. And second, they are quite knowledgeable in what cards are as they have played since beta.
@@xuspirahopte5549 yes I know that that. But obviously neither of them play wild.
@@alexcaffri9091 And this isn't a Wild review. Nor is it advertised as such.
Innervate is so broken that even a nerfed version of it is still broken.
I would not say it is necessarily broken but they printed bunch of stuff that synergizes well with it, because at this point Blizzard's idea of balancing seems to be: "Who cares? It will rotate out eventually anyway."
Black Lotus all over again lol
@@MehmetTurk21 hot take: it's better to print broken but interesting cards and nerf/hall of fame them, blizzard should just do it faster
Human Aku for that, just play wild
Every expansion it seems druid gets insane cards
Thank you for the trump nourishment Jens
“WOW, what a package!”
9:32 But I see a Deathrattle Hunter deck with Serpent Egg, Bloated Python, Zixor, Augmented Porcupine and Teron Gorefiend and activators being Mok-Nathal Lion and Trueaim Crescent!
It's very classic Trump rating - he rates the new cards in the light of the current meta but doesn't think of possible options a new card can bring
also forgot Nine Lives, it's still in standard
@@jakebit9467 what are you talking about, he discussed a bunch of new decks/old weaker decks and where they could go in a new meta. He just doesn't think deathrattle hunter will hold a candle to highlander hunter
@@jakebit9467 lmao no, he just realizes that cards like the Bloated Python are just bad, no matter what deck you want to put them into. It's basically a worse version of the 5/4 hunter dormant demon.
@@TheAce12570 Lol Python is an egg with attack, this can't be bad :)
Trump on overwhelm: “very underwhelming card”
"1 mana remove a minion....whatever" ...ok
danieltaom remove a 1 cost or 2 cost minion for hunter is trash
@@masterpotato2162 If you just play the new Alleycat before it or have two other beasts on board it's 1 mana deal 4. That's not trash. It has to be in a beast focused deck though and we've yet to see if that will work.
I don’t see it being played that much, maybe someday in Wild, but I don’t think Beast Hunter is good enough yet
@@danieltaom 1 mana deal 4 to a minion is trash for hunter.
3:30 laughs in desert hare
That deck sounds stupid and completely unviable, so I'm playing it first thing when the expansion comes out. Survival of the fittest bunnies, here I come.
he’s means that a 1/1 desert hare isn’t better than a 1/2 slime
Laughs in King Mukla
Golden Scarab and Ironbeak Owl are also arguably worse than a 1/2 with Taunt. They're at least as bad. I really don't know why he said ALWAYS better.
@@andyspendlove1019 you're reading too much into it. He's just saying that if you have the choice between "a random 3 drop" and "a 1/2 taunt" you're pretty much never going to pick the 1/2 taunt, because the average outcome of picking the random 3 drop option is so much better.
I'm pretty sure you scrubbed the floor with my face using your Face Hunter in Ranked today. Loved every second of it 😅
I was a Tree-Druid
I still don't get their refusal to keep around key words from set to set. Like, Guardian Animals is just recruit 2 minions that cost 5 or less and give them rush, but they just don't want to use the word 'recruit' to describe what the card does.
While I agree that makes sense, they would need to reintroduce it for players, cuz the keyword is almost 3 years old at this point. IDK if thats really worth it, especially with how simple the wording is. Inspire and enrage have similar issues
@@Elephanthobo Yuo know how to fix that? When you mouse over the card in your collection, or even while in-game, a tooltip pops up explaining. Or you have a section in your game to explain basic mechanics. It is insanely easy. And you don't have to reintroduce players to things if you just never stop using the word.
I'm gonna try to make Professor Slate work because in the right situations he can do wonders. Just today in fact, I played against a Druid who had used survival of the fittest and managed to take down 4 of his big minions with Rapid fire alone.
Lightning Bloom being printed is bad for the game unless they HOF Kaelthas.
New camera looking CRISP, my man. Good stuff
For the Omu OTK deck, in order to cheat out waaaaay more damage, you could maeiv the omu after you play it, when it awakens you can play the ysiel, germination, malygos, any spell, then play all of the spells. In order to get better draws, you could also put polkelt in to draw the ysiel, Omu, maiev, and damage spells like starfire or swipe
Casual 6+ cards combo with 2+ turns set up.
I love it, it's gonna be the first thing I try.
No thanks. If you do that you spend 9 mana summoning a 4/3, and then have to wait for two turns before your combo comes online. I wouldn't bet on your even surviving until that point, but even if you do, there's no real upside. If Druid had a ton of damage spells, sure, you could make an argument for it. But do you know how many spells that can deal damage directly to face Druid has? It's three. Moonfire, Swipe and Starfire. Two cards you can already fit into the normal combo, and a 6 mana deal 5 spell which is just terrible outside of the combo - putting in cards like that is just going to ensure that you never survive long enough to pull it off in the first place.
So you're just massively overcomplicating your combo, and putting in bad cards like Ysiel, for no real upside, because the standard Malygos combo already deals 30 damage, 36 if you play the second Germination instead of a Swipe, or 50 damage if you play Lightning Bloom - a card you'll be running in your deck anyway - alongside the others.
It's a fun combo, sure, but it's just objectively worse than the normal one IMO.
Why is the germination nessecary? Couldnt you just malygos, moonfire, moonfire, swipe, swipe for 30 damage after omu becomes undormant?
@@sympathism I mean but then why would you need to make Omu dormant? You can just Omu, Germination, Malygos, Moonfire, Moonfire, Swipe, Swipe. You're just replacing Germination with Maiev in your example, which just makes your combo slower with no upside.
The reason you would want the Maiev is if you're going for a Ysiel combo, since that lets you cast 10+ spells in the same turn with Malygos already on the board, but like I mentioned, You can do enough damage with the normal combo, which is much good enough and much more consistent.
@@TheAce12570 ooh. I see. Im not sure if you get a copy that has an used spellburst, or not.
On turn 9 you can do kealthas, double lightning bloom, Forest warden Omu, survival of the fittest, Anubisath Defender, Guardian Animals, and still have enough mana to hero power.
I can already hear Regis laughter at the start of the video doing this.
just to note you have to do the anubisaths after playing guardian animals since the survival cost 0 from the kaelthas
7 card combo that doesn't even do any damage to the opponent, it just makes a big board? While also overloading you for four.
Now that is a review!!!
The best WORK out there!!!!
If you use Germination on Omu, the copy WON"T have spellburst. Because it's a copy, not a new card. So you refresh mana only once. (sry fro bad english)
Yes this is exactly true. Regis did it on one of his videos and he was confused for a moment before figuring out this exact thing.
You can play Brann with Shan'do for 16/16 charge.
Might not be a "good" idea, but it is an idea
Imagine in Wild dinotamer +Shan'do + Keleseth (I think that was the 3 cost one that transform es), reduced cost through the classic Combo Deck way. Boom, nearly otk
Please rate the dual class cards once per class, for example: 5 star for hunter but only 3 stars for demon Hunter.
That makes no sense since he rates the cards individually, judging them if they'd be viable in any tier 1,2,3 etc decks. He isn't going to give 10 ratings for every neutral card is he?
He will just rate them if there is any deck that can use them...
That's for sure my fav ending of the channel
Gidra feels good for an embiggen deck, because a 4 mana 3/6 wind fury with that spell burst is just *chef’s kiss*
i’m so glad i got the trump approval of the guardian angels deck. it’s by far my favorite
not playing constructed anymore since battlegrounds are playable, but still watching all of trumps new expansion videos, keep up!
speaker gidra is 5 stars. leaving this here so i can return to it when the trump reviews trump reviews come out
I feel like everyone forgot about ysiel windslinger because she wasn't very good last set but now that druid seems to be a very big spell class she could be a good card to run in you're druid spell burst decks
"Trueaim Crescent" looks OP. Give your minions rush or windfury, must attack this turn. Depending on the attack order, this could be amazing or bad.
Just one question. When Magehunter attacks will the silence happen before or after the attack? So if let's say he attacks a minion with divine shield - will the divine shield be silenced and then it attacks or will he attack into the divine shield and then silence whichever effects are left on that minion?
Shan'do Wildclaw
Battlecry: Transform into King Krush
I think if Keleseth with his major restriction can be good, Shan'do can be, too, even if a deck nearly only with beasts in it seems a bit tough...but im eager to try it or even both in epic wild experiments haha ;)
Beast hunter could work, especially an aggro varient, maybe?
How are you rating the dual class cards? Do they get the higher rating of the two classes? The lower? Average? It seems like you are just giving it a rating based off the first class you review it for, but It's not explained in the video.
Don't think about classes, think about decks. Trump rates cards based on what representation it got in the meta, it doesn't matter which class they are used in, but you could think that the rating is almost always the higher.
I mean think about neutrals, did they get and average rating based on how they are used in all 10 classes? No, they get 5 stars if they are in a tier 1 deck and 1 star if they have
Combination of Kaelthas, Omu and Gidra: Play Omu and then Germination, then play Kaelthas and any other cheap spell of 3 mana, then play another cheap spell followed by gidra then finish with a free survival of the fittest. You then have a 15/20 Gidra 2 Omus with 9/8, a Kaelthas with buffs.
Unfortunatelly those cheap spells will waste both Omu's effect. What you can do is Omu, Germination, gain 10 mana, Kael, Gidra, 0-cost spell, gain 10 mana, Survival for 10 and 2nd Survival for 0. Gidra doesn't get extra stats from it's effect, but it's literally impossible to Gidra + Survival on the same turn, no matter how you manipulate it.
@@FardHast Yeah, my idea was just what came to mind without much thought behind it^^ I just wanted a build, where you could play around with Gidra
As someone who played the hell out of ramp embiggen dragon Druid in the latest expansions, I can tell you that I'm intensely skeptical of these cards working. It seems to be much better aggainst aggro than that deck thanks to Guardian Animals giving the pulled minions rush, but it doesn't seem any more effective against heavy control highlander decks. Though of course the hope is that DH scares those decks away somewhat.
Why doesn’t Marrowslicer put a soul fragment into your deck on attack?
@13:30 "In that kind of (control) deck, you might consider Glide over Skull of Gul'dan"
Yeah, in the deck that DOESN'T drop its entire hand due to middling costs rather than vomiting every cheap card in the game, the best play is definitely to play the card draw card which wants your hand to be EMPTY because its effective card draw is limited in value by your current hand size.
Glide is, by far, at its worst in a slow DH deck. If anything, you avoid soul fragments to run Skull, not the other way around.
He was talking about tempo demon hunter, because it was right after he rated them 5 stars for their inclusion in that deck.
I think he said the version he made was more tempo based, which can in the late game does run out of cards in hand. I get that in control, it's really bad but I don't think that's what he was talking about.
Star Student Stelina reminds me so much of Loatheb. Players were saying that Loatheb was going to be the answer to Miracle rogue/Freeze Mage type decks, and then it came out and it was an amazing card, but it was sorta played in decks as a sort of Tempo tool. You hoped to play it while just a little bit ahead, you disrupted your opponents next turn hopefully, while putting a body on board. I think she can fit in just about anything regardless of the meta, and that Glide is the more conditionally good card.
Trueaim Crescent in DH seems really good... 1 Mana, have a weapon to trigger all your attack triggers for 4 turns while giving your minions possible rush seems really damn good in Tempo decks, and players have already cut Warglaives so I don't think tempo DH is weapon heavy right now. Really wouldn't surprise me if that weapon was nerfed by 1 charge.
Does anybody else enjoy watching the Trump outro
This one is one of the best. Half credit (or even more, who knows) for everything I love Trump's videos goes to Jens.
Been trying a Big Druid deck.... dunno how it's going to look, long term but just got off THE combo:
Omu, Germinate
Alex, Strength in #'s
Survival (2nd one)
30 mana in one turn, had 2 Omus (one with taunt), and Alex down- he was at 15 health and all my minions were +8/+8....
Runic Carvings could be a neat play after you've finished the quest, getting you seven 2/2's where three of them has rush.
Hey Jens, the cards are a bit small for me who has never seen them before. Maybe only make them small when showing all if them at the end. If just a handful of them are on screen it would be helpful to make them a bit bigger.
I know it would help you, but like near the whole set of cards are all up in a minute and it just be hard to make an animation that cycles the cards sizes in that time frame. I'd suggest just looking on the play hearthstone site to see all the cards
I have been waiting for so long
I can't wait till I hit blood herald off Firelands Portal. 7 mana 1/1 gonna make my day T_T
Furbolg Mossbinder was the first 1/1 for 5. At least those can deal 1 dmg, when Dragon Egg and Desert Obelisk deal none.
Fel Guardians combos really well with the Demon Hunter summon X 1/1 rush cards. I can see it costing 0 mana often in that deck. The rush cards may find a home as pseudo removal in control.
I feel like the flavour of survival of the fittest makes more sense in hunter
Great predictions for druid, got the gidra and oumu swapped do.
everyone over rated ace hunter and glide
He got soul demon hunter right, respect.
Remind me, are there any other good five drop Beasts you really want to pull from the Guardian Animals? Because I'm really not seeing it if it's one very specific card to pull out very specific cards, and then hope you haven't drawn both copies...
Nope. Those 2 he mentioned. Crystal stag/stranglethorn tiger/ stampeding kodo are the only 5 mana beasts druid can play atm. Hunter has nerfed buzzard and tundra rhino, so not very good either
Shando Wildclaw is amazing in the survival of the fittest deck for just 3 mana u can copy a buffed up minion with stats like 10/12. No way it is only 2 Stars
@Krebsiboy1 The problem is that Shan'do is a legendary, and if and only if you get that combo off is he good in the deck, 3 Mana 3/3 is underwhelming and too slow, even if you buff most of your deck, and I,
(or rather, TrumpSC) doesn't think that the situation is prevalent enough to warrant throwing in a most of the time underwhelming card.
@Krebsiboy1
The issue with that is that it turns it into an extreme win more card. If you get the whole buff thing off you only have one job: get buffed stuff on the board. Wildclaw doesn't actually do that by default, it requires you to already have stuff.
The way hearthstone works right now is also a bit different. It doesn't really help you win in most cases to double your threats. A lot of games are a ping pong of crazy swing turns for each player until one of them runs out of them and loses. The actual size of the threat/swing is less relevant than having it. The only exception are aggro decks which simply care about enough damage before they lose the board so they can finish you off afterwards with their remaining resources.
I think you also run winged guardian and marsh hydra in survival of the fittest, makes it super worth to run.
I’ll say 3 stars. No more than that.
@@AndrewS-vu4ji and @Peter Johannsen like Alan C said at turn 10 u can play it together with winged guardian and even if it isnt buffed u get 6/8 not targetable and rebirth for 3 mana that's so worth it.
And even if u just copy the 2 new 5 mana beast without them having any buffs its already worth it. The +1/+1 Choice is just crap but the stats u get on board for 3 Mana is just insane.
What about the 5 mana 4/6 strikes ajacent? It seems really good with rush and survival of the firest
Its a neutral Card, so He didnt Cover it yet. Seems since it isnt sticky and doesnt have stealth its worse then the Other 5 Drops, but still decent, especially with rush
@@leobastian_ would definitely only see play in this druid deck, the board wipe potential is insane
I'm so glad Trump factored in the Mana ramp possibility for nature studies.
If you play survival of the fittest with gidra but the spell is Kaeltas does she gain plus 10,10 or 0,0
DH is going to have some extra burn with Soulshard Lapidary. I wonder if a burn deck ever comes about? Having 2x Marrow Slicers, 2x Lapidary, 2x Glaivebound Adept, and Metamorphosis seems like dangerously consistent burn once you approach that midgame.
This expansion looks so much fun as long as you dont play against these exact classes. All 3 of these classes will have a tier 1 deck that feels garbage to play against
My exact thoughts as a mage player kinda shaking in ma boots
Laughs in priest
@@ΣερτηςΠαπας though priest does get under my skin I can recognize that priests roll in hearthstone is to keep aggro for getting out of control.
I don't like them but I can accept them(for the most part)
yeah but priest beats aggro, tons of removal, healing and taunts, totally ruins combo decks with the new legendary and fares well against heavy control because of galakrond, mass ressurect and plague of death, knowing that, i always feel awful when i face priest with any deck, waiting 20 minutrs to slowly get outvalued or until turn 5 to concede when i play a face deck. Sure priest is not tier 1 but it feels worse tham all the tier one decks (don't get me started on wild, the raza unnerf revived the 30 hp or under means you are dead nightmare)
Omur + innervade = 7 mana?
Wait, why DH got more new cards compared to others?
You're underestimating mage hunter trump, 3* card minimum. It is a major tool to use that even if it doesnt have a use you can trade off the silence for a body at least.
If you can get two mana on first turn then gibberling and adorable infestation isn't a bad play
Cannot wait for the next round of Trump Laboratories!
Trump you should have rated the dual class cards based on the class you are playing, if Guardian Animals in druid is 5 stars and hunters doesn't have an use for it then consider it as a 2 or 1 star for hunter rather than keeping it 5 star all around.
Can't wait till day one when Jens will be crushing by 1 star card as usual :)
I feel like carrion studies is better than one star, mostly because of the discount and the fact that the discount carries over. All of sudden the Geddon + Lion combo can happen a turn earlier. Still though, at best I see Deathrattle hunter will at best be a tier 2 deck, more likely tier 3.
Speaker Gidra into Lighting Bloom into Concede into Trolden PogChamp
I love Kael'thas tbh.
Cant wait to disenchant my golden kreem :D
The soul package doesn't seem good for me, only 6 shards? That you can draw at any point in the game? Seems to inconsistent.
They shuffle 2 each
Blood Herald from Apexis Blast Pog
Can't help but think Magehunter will come back to bite Trump with that 1 star rating - Demon Hunters weakness are big taunt minions and that removes that barrier. Surely it has a place in aggro and tempo play? It also has a little versatility in dealing with low cost deathrattles as a bonus.
I agree with most of these ratings, but I think True-Aim Crescent is more powerful than it looks. You have to build around it, but I can think it's great with minions with 0-power. You can suicide eggs into minions with it!
EDIT: Oh geez, I just thought of something else. It's great for taking down Doomsayers.
2X EDIT: Just thought of something else. This essentially gives all minions (frozen or asleep) Rush the turn you swing with it. Yeah, I'd up the star rating on this one.
Wait if i use a card that gives me a card from my opponents class,
Do the cards that can be used by two classes are possible to get, or not?
(Sry for bad english)
Yes, dual class cards count as both classes. They show up in the discoverpool of both classes. For example: if you discover a mage spell, mage/shaman and mage/rogue spells can show up. If you use the 4 mana rogue pirate, i'm not sure if you can get rogue/mage and rogue/warrior spells, since they are both rogue spells and spells from another class. My gut tells me you shouldn't get them, but I'm not sure
I wish the card images were bigger in these videos.
Turn 1 Druid hand in wild:
2 times Lightning Bloom
1 Twig
1 Sphere
1 coin
10 mana on turn 3 I soo want to see that
we may cheat out glow fly with soul forest with 5 mana crystal I guess?
I think the runic carvings rating is going to bite trump later.
Why does he constantly forget about Enbiggen, some of the druid cards he rated low are amazing with Enbiggen.
Which ones do you have in mind? They all don’t seem to especially benefit from embiggen, at least not in any unique way. Gibberling will still only summon a 1/1. The rush windfury one could probably be pretty sick though, that’s the only one that stands out to me
@@ML-mx3mm that and the hunter druid card, shindo?
She would be amazing because either
A) Early game works for increasing "Enbiggen" effect more possible
B) Late game being able to replace hydra that is incredible (if it copies its stats) because an 11 / 11 rush that gives 8 cost minion from attack isn't bad, especially having two of them. ( I even use it in my dragon Enbiggen deck and works magically). More value to a value filled class atm
Does any one think it’s wild too see dual classes like in magic .... Hearthstone turning into the GATHERING slowly but surely
I think Bloated Python is actually a 5 star. Basically a turn 3 4/4 you get on turn 4 :P
Is it me or the OMG from the outro, i from joseph joestar?
Get ready for some turn 3 lightning bloom, lightning bloom, kael'thas, survival of the fittest
Runic Carvings is a 2 star card, totem shaman will be a deck and runic carvings will see occasional play in it
if u have no established board on turn six as totem shaman, you already lost.
@@darkgrundi9543 i don't know why you're assuming the card can only be used to establish a board
maybe you have 2 or 3 mid size totems up, you play this on turn 6, get rush, maybe buff them, and you can clear the board, keep what you have, and maybe even strengthen your board. Or maybe they've burnt all their board clear wiping out your totems and now you have even more fuel. I'm not saying the card is 5 star but you clearly aren't thinking big enough.
Linkman95 I think you’re overestimating the power of four 2/2’s with rush
@@SoniCraft98 yes he is
If you people think overestimating a card is rating it 2 stars because it will see experimentation in a tier 3/4 deck, I'd love to see what you consider underestimating a card is.
Shan'do seems underrated.... copying either beast for 3 mana seems pretty great
I'm excited for Daily hearthstone moments Bloom Bloom Kaelthos Survival on turn 3
So Kael-bloom-bloom-Omu-survival, damn
Spiteful is shown like it is nerfed now, but the nerf is reverters to 6 mana
Flamewreathed faceless -1 health with no overload: 1 star.
Flamewreathed faceless with a hunter secret active instead of overload: 5 stars
Never seen that many ads in a Trump video wtf
I disagree that Teacher's Pet is better Sludge Belcher. Sludge Belcher was good because it was reasonable statted taunt that spawned another taunt. You didn't play it for stats you played it for reliable defense. The same reason you play Khartut Defender.
So how is Trump going to organize these reviews going forward? Is he doing 3 classes, then 3, then 3, then 1 with the neutrals? Or is one of these reviews going to have 4 classes?
We shall see.
Perfect vid to watch before I hop on and grind some Wild ladder :D
Lemme guess, the new one is going to start with warlock, I noticed a pattern
Druid/hunter
hunter/demon hunter
demon hunter/warlock
That’s because dual class cards are paired with the two “neighboring” classes, and demon hunter has warlock and hunter as it’s neighbors
yup, he confirmed it later in the video XD
@@amphiapple7890 yeah later he confirmed he is doing a circle, so shaman is in the last final review video
So next videos will be:
Warlock, Priest and Paladin.
Followed by:
Warrior, Rogue, Mage and Shaman?
Potentially could make Warrior the fourth of the 2nd vid instead.
@@bromora989 yeah the warlock/priest/paladin then the rest in the 3rd video makes sense
Hopefully all of the new 1 mana spells Demon Hunter gets successfully lowers Cobalt Spellkin's ability to draw double Twin Slice.
I think bloated python might actually be pretty good. Egg hunter rn is solid (not great but solid) and python seems like a good fit for that. Not top tier but not 1 star
we jsut ignoring ace hunter krean + true aim cresent? VALUE TOWN
Stelina is 4 mana 4/3 do almost nothing when outcast
stars are too close to the cards above them when they pertain to the cards below them
pls my dumb brain cannot process thx
i cant even read the card text
Why are the cards in these videos always scaled for ants 🙁
Hey trump reviews trump reviews ashes of outland where did that go?