It all sounds great until you get to the showroom. The dealers are adding market adjustments of up to $2000. They will always find a way to ruin a good intention on the part of a manufacturer. Shame on the dealers that charge grossly excessive adds making it impossible to enjoy an affordable dual sport.
Tw is 5200 out the door plated considering how much every bike is now thats still hell of a deal for something that has doubled in value. Most used tw's are even in the 3-4k range with high mileage
Yup. Back in '68 I bought a new CL90 for $400 total. In 1982 I bought a brand new 1981 Honda CM400C Custom, for HALF PRICE, $950, because the gorgeous bikes didn't sell well! That was nuts. It was gorgeous, rode sweetly, and had plenty of poop. I owned it over 30 years and sold it for twice what I paid. Yeah, inflation made it not that cool a sell, but nowadays it seems stupid to buy a new bike. Too much markup.
There seems to be this misconception that the xr 150l is built in Mexico by a Chinese partnership when, in actuality, it is assembled in Mexico by this conglomerate, and the parts are actual honda parts with honda oversight . If honda puts their name and reputation on it, then the quality control has to be there. Kawasaki has many of its smaller motorcycles assembled by bajaj in India, but all the parts are Kawasaki and have the backing of Kawasaki. The Japanese are very particular about their reputation and quality.
Rado, looks like you pulled out of the hardware or liquor store at 1:14... lol, it seems so odd to see my little town and old trails on TH-cam from time to time... glad to see your channel growing!
I got one. I didn't put anything down, and i got the extra warranty at $500. The payments are less than $115 a month for 48 months here in North Carolina
Lots of folk have the XR 150, myself included. I also own and ride a Harley Sportster and I've been riding for around 55 years in one way or another. The Japanese made bikes are for sure quality but in my estimate they're way overpriced. I remember when everyone hated on Japanese bikes and often destroyed them for show. At the end of the day it's the best I could afford at the time. Just ride pal and keep the shiny side up
I bought an XR150l about 3 months ago to use primarily as a single track trail maintenance bike for dense eastern woods. I modified the rear rack to carry a small chainsaw and other tools into the woods and it works very well for that once I added a 15t front sprocket to gear it down. Potential buyers should understand however that this really is a shockingly bad dirt bike if you are used to bikes like YZs, KTMs, etc.! It is super slow, heavy, has no ground clearance and atrocious suspension, and the design of the brake pedal is essentially a scoop that gathers every piece of trail trash. It would cost far more than a real dirt bike to fix these problems, even if you could. But it will get you slowly down the trail hauling tools, which is all I need. The other thing I have learned is that the XR150l is a shockingly good city commuter! Although I did not buy it for that purpose, I have found it to be incredibly useful for getting around the city running errands, getting groceries, getting to appointments, and scooting around traffic problems. The realistic max speed is roughly 50-55mph, so as long as you can avoid the freeways, it's great. I hardly ever have to fire up the car or truck anymore. Bravo Honda!
TW is a far more robust bike thatll take anything you throw at it. The XR is mostly intended for street use and probably won't hold up over time if you're spending a lot of time in terrain its not really meant to be on.
I have a 2015 model XR150L here in South Africa. It's been my daily rider as well as occasional adventure bike. I've fitted a one tooth smaller front sprocket which slightly improves its acceleration (revs don't drop off as much when engaging the next higher ratio) while still attaining the same top speed of 112km/h (65mph?) I get 40km/L (90mpg?) which is twice as economical as my old Honda 400 TransAlp. Besides the usual wear & tear items, i.e. tyres and disk pads, I've not spent a cent on mine and it hasn't seen a bike dealership as I do my own basic maintenance, i.e. tyres, oil changes, air filters and spark plugs. Mine's done about 24000km (15000 miles) to date and still has its original battery. I'd rate it as good as any other Honda I've ever owned, which includes an XL125, CRF230 and a 650 TransAlp. Anyone who thinks they're Chinese clones, doesn't realise that the Chinese bikes have been cloned from THESE XRs, that have been around for the last decade.
Both are great bikes, but I hate when on a review they're being trashed at max rpm, and yes it does 50 or 60 with no problem. Yeah keep riding like that for 15 or 20k and the engine dies, not because it's not good enough, but it's not what it's for. Or am I the only one, who likes to ride whatever bike at max 2/3 of it's peak power or revs? I had (and still have) underpowered bikes, and if it doesn't like to go fast, well I won't push it. So it's kinda irrelevant that it "could" do 60. What does it feel like when it's doing a comfortable 50?
Hello friend, my name is Jorge and I am from Costa Rica. I would be interested in being able to get the complete muffle and the lids, the entire kit for the xr 150. Could you give me information about a store that ships?
Who needs status. Status won't help when you have 10 miles in the tank and the next filling station is 15 miles away. And 2000 in cash can buy a lot of mods and fuel.
Is the 150 a good bike? Compare it to its tech rivals. How about the old Yamaha XT 125. Or a HONDA XL125L. Not everybody needs 'Hi-tech' crap to have fun.
I am ,riding the xtz125. Thí 125cc engine might be the same on YB125cc, but it work great, quick and smooth. It isn't as powerful as a 150cc, but it still have a good feeling to it. Don't expect it great or coll like pro buker do it, it's obviously much weaker than youtuber raider tried to show
they are not 3000. i just got one from honda. they are 3100 and with tax and other fees. it is over 4 grand for the bike. as in illinois you have to pay 206 dollars for license when you buy the bike. so mine came with license plates on it and the sticker. ready to go on the road. but it was quite a bit over 4000 dollars.
I rode one once. I had only been riding for a few months at the time. It was underwhelming to say the least. It’s basically a moped trying to perpetrate a dual sport. I’m a big fan of Rado n DIrt n Iron but i gotta call bullshit when i see it. This is a bike that id recommend for a younger woman who wants a scooter for running around a city or campus, or for a teenage kid who plans to learn on this for a few months and then upgrade. If this is one of your choices for first bike i would really think hard about getting something a little more lively, like a crf/klx 250/300. I would hate to see anyone spend a few grand and then be unhappy with their purchase weeks later.
Funny. I have been watching e-bike reviews and I’d say the XR150 competes and beats those bikes pretty handedly. I will keep my Wr250r, but it seems like a nifty little bike
If I was gonna compare & spend up to $4900, I think I'd simply grab the Yamaha XT250 for $5100 if it's still that much? Depending on what it's like where you live the Honda might be better? I like her for the weight.... or lack of. peace
Apologies, but the XR150L is not made in Japan, but in multiple countries for different markets. TW200 is still Japan and the price reflects that. I don't think that makes tons of difference, all the XR150Ls I have seen (4-5?) have looked well made and benefit from modern styling and ergonomics, as you say. The shame is that Yamaha is unlikely to ever build a next-gen bike for this category and the best we can hope is an ongoing supply of the "same same" Tdub. I might buy an XR150L to familiarize with as I have some ideas about doing motorcycle touring in Asia, where the model is common and I would rent/buy/some-such there.
Yeah the xr in the US is made in mexico but the xr150 has been proven and it's made by honda not honda japan but it's made by honda in SE asia by the least
Both of these bikes suck on the road. It is what it is. Gotta call a spade a spade. These are amazing bikes as campground bikes, for the back of an RV, at the track to run errands on, on a farm or rural setting, and for slow woods riding to just enjoy life, riding, and nature. As soon as you hit the pavement the fun stops. Let's just be honest. Unless of course you are in town, stop light to stop light, 25-35 mph urban riding. Then, again, these excel. If you are trying to get to and from your favorite off road riding areas you should just look at these as a dirt bike and haul it in your truck and unload once you get there. And that is not a bad thing. You have all your tools, spare fuel, food, gear, etc..and can just ride for the afternoon in that forest system and load up and head home afterwards.
I will say that many times when something is built to sell at a lower price point than similar products of different models or different manufacturers then many times the quality of the parts or even the materials used can be off lesser quality than the higher priced similar products. I have heard of reports of the XR150'S when pushed hard at highway speeds of consuming oil and it has become the consensus that the oil is being pushed out of the breather tube which is a common occurrence on some other Chinese based small motorcycle engines. Sure such issues can be overcome but the point is my feelings are that this model of bike at its price point shares more in common with other similar Chinese branded products being sold online through outlets like Amazon than the majority of other bikes being sold at the Honda Dealership.
Sorry to burst bubbles, but this XR150 is built in Mexico by a Chinese company that "partners" with Honda. It nothing but a clone bike, like all the other crap out of China...There's no way its going to have the durability of a true XR. The reason why T-Dubs cost $2k more is because its a true Japanese motorcycle... Rule #1, you get what you pay for 😉
@@toddkurtz1468 ...You go ahead and make that bet, buddy. If you buy this XR and think you are getting a Honda quality engine(or motorcycle), think again...
I'll let you know because I own one. I only have 1700 miles on it but when I get to 20000 I'll let you know. Plenty of people around the world have put over 30000 miles on these things. It's got the absolute worst suspension but what do you expect for 2971.00? I've got a KTM 350excf as a real dirt bike. I even commute on the freeway with it. No problem drafting cars and maintaining 65. This bike is several steps above you run of the mill Chinese bike.
@@painsrides A lot of people were saying the same thing when Honda started selling the made in Thailand CBR250, but it didn’t stop me from buying one and putting on 40k trouble free miles. If Honda puts their name on something it’s going to meet their standards.
@@ryanb5189 Taiwanese manufacturing is a different animal from Chinese. Maybe I was a little harsh in my initial post, but I have a strong distain for Chinese motorcycles and I do not like this trend of major manufactures(like Honda) using Chinese facilities to manufacture or simply rebadge Chinese motorcycles to sell as their own. Its sleezy way to up profits that is ultimately going to hurt quality across the industry... Not to mention supporting an authoritarian government.....
The XR 150L is NOT a new bike.
It has been sold in Mexico and South America for the past TWENTY years!
It has more than proven itself reliable.
I disagree. Tw200 will outlast the xr150l
It all sounds great until you get to the showroom. The dealers are adding market adjustments of up to $2000.
They will always find a way to ruin a good intention on the part of a manufacturer. Shame on the dealers that
charge grossly excessive adds making it impossible to enjoy an affordable dual sport.
Tw is 5200 out the door plated considering how much every bike is now thats still hell of a deal for something that has doubled in value. Most used tw's are even in the 3-4k range with high mileage
The xr sells for $1,763 in the Phillipenes & comes with a kick-start as well as electric start! 🤬
Got my 2024 model for $3900 otd, not bad
Yup. Back in '68 I bought a new CL90 for $400 total. In 1982 I bought a brand new 1981 Honda CM400C Custom, for HALF PRICE, $950, because the gorgeous bikes didn't sell well! That was nuts. It was gorgeous, rode sweetly, and had plenty of poop. I owned it over 30 years and sold it for twice what I paid. Yeah, inflation made it not that cool a sell, but nowadays it seems stupid to buy a new bike. Too much markup.
XR150 even much cheaper here in the Philippines.
There seems to be this misconception that the xr 150l is built in Mexico by a Chinese partnership when, in actuality, it is assembled in Mexico by this conglomerate, and the parts are actual honda parts with honda oversight . If honda puts their name and reputation on it, then the quality control has to be there. Kawasaki has many of its smaller motorcycles assembled by bajaj in India, but all the parts are Kawasaki and have the backing of Kawasaki. The Japanese are very particular about their reputation and quality.
Yeah so why do they assemble the bikes in shitholes where they can get away with slave wages then bro???
at 42, i got my first bike last October. the XR150. it’s been awesome to learn on. put about 2000 miles on it and i love it.
As long as it as two wheel I'll ride it I think both bike are a good buy
nice job holding out those gears. a lot of people who complain about the honda's performance seem to shift too early- you gotta rev it a bit.
TW200 any day, they go on forever, manufactured since 1987 and still being manufactured today 😊
...and you can always get parts if needed, even though they never seem to break or wear out!
Rado, looks like you pulled out of the hardware or liquor store at 1:14... lol, it seems so odd to see my little town and old trails on TH-cam from time to time... glad to see your channel growing!
Cheaper than a grom. The only motorcycle I might be able to afford one day if I save really hard. 🤞🏽
Honda has financing. It’s more affordable than you think
I got one. I didn't put anything down, and i got the extra warranty at $500. The payments are less than $115 a month for 48 months here in North Carolina
Lots of folk have the XR 150, myself included. I also own and ride a Harley Sportster and I've been riding for around 55 years in one way or another. The Japanese made bikes are for sure quality but in my estimate they're way overpriced. I remember when everyone hated on Japanese bikes and often destroyed them for show. At the end of the day it's the best I could afford at the time. Just ride pal and keep the shiny side up
I don't know what device you typed your comment on. Chances are this Honda is cheaper. Yeah you can afford it.
@@613Buildsnever finance one of these bikes
How are the xr150 compared to the dr200?
I bought an XR150l about 3 months ago to use primarily as a single track trail maintenance bike for dense eastern woods. I modified the rear rack to carry a small chainsaw and other tools into the woods and it works very well for that once I added a 15t front sprocket to gear it down. Potential buyers should understand however that this really is a shockingly bad dirt bike if you are used to bikes like YZs, KTMs, etc.! It is super slow, heavy, has no ground clearance and atrocious suspension, and the design of the brake pedal is essentially a scoop that gathers every piece of trail trash. It would cost far more than a real dirt bike to fix these problems, even if you could. But it will get you slowly down the trail hauling tools, which is all I need. The other thing I have learned is that the XR150l is a shockingly good city commuter! Although I did not buy it for that purpose, I have found it to be incredibly useful for getting around the city running errands, getting groceries, getting to appointments, and scooting around traffic problems. The realistic max speed is roughly 50-55mph, so as long as you can avoid the freeways, it's great. I hardly ever have to fire up the car or truck anymore. Bravo Honda!
TW is a far more robust bike thatll take anything you throw at it. The XR is mostly intended for street use and probably won't hold up over time if you're spending a lot of time in terrain its not really meant to be on.
TW200 💪💪💪
I miss my 1983 XL 250 Honda. Had a 6 speed & was very versatile 😊
I have a 2015 model XR150L here in South Africa. It's been my daily rider as well as occasional adventure bike. I've fitted a one tooth smaller front sprocket which slightly improves its acceleration (revs don't drop off as much when engaging the next higher ratio) while still attaining the same top speed of 112km/h (65mph?)
I get 40km/L (90mpg?) which is twice as economical as my old Honda 400 TransAlp.
Besides the usual wear & tear items, i.e. tyres and disk pads, I've not spent a cent on mine and it hasn't seen a bike dealership as I do my own basic maintenance, i.e. tyres, oil changes, air filters and spark plugs.
Mine's done about 24000km (15000 miles) to date and still has its original battery.
I'd rate it as good as any other Honda I've ever owned, which includes an XL125, CRF230 and a 650 TransAlp.
Anyone who thinks they're Chinese clones, doesn't realise that the Chinese bikes have been cloned from THESE XRs, that have been around for the last decade.
They are great reliable bikes. I trust it more than any other bike I own.
Both are great bikes, but I hate when on a review they're being trashed at max rpm, and yes it does 50 or 60 with no problem. Yeah keep riding like that for 15 or 20k and the engine dies, not because it's not good enough, but it's not what it's for. Or am I the only one, who likes to ride whatever bike at max 2/3 of it's peak power or revs? I had (and still have) underpowered bikes, and if it doesn't like to go fast, well I won't push it. So it's kinda irrelevant that it "could" do 60. What does it feel like when it's doing a comfortable 50?
Very good review. Thank you.
Resale value makes up for the 2k difference. Durability, parts and much more.
Hello friend, my name is Jorge and I am from Costa Rica. I would be interested in being able to get the complete muffle and the lids, the entire kit for the xr 150. Could you give me information about a store that ships?
Great review
Great comparison, Rado!
Good job on the XR. You hardly mentioned the TW. I thought this video was a comparison.
GREAT LITTLE BIKE 👍👍😎
Who needs status. Status won't help when you have 10 miles in the tank and the next filling station is 15 miles away. And 2000 in cash can buy a lot of mods and fuel.
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I love these comparison videos when you only ride one bike 😢😮
I have a Tdub but the XR also looks like a good option for new riders.
TW200 price at $5000 is ridiculous when you can buy a Honda CRF300L for $6000 and it's fuel injected and has 100cc more.
Is the 150 a good bike? Compare it to its tech rivals. How about the old Yamaha XT 125. Or a HONDA XL125L. Not everybody needs 'Hi-tech' crap to have fun.
+ high tech = we can get a lot more money for this.
I am ,riding the xtz125. Thí 125cc engine might be the same on YB125cc, but it work great, quick and smooth. It isn't as powerful as a 150cc, but it still have a good feeling to it. Don't expect it great or coll like pro buker do it, it's obviously much weaker than youtuber raider tried to show
they are not 3000. i just got one from honda. they are 3100 and with tax and other fees. it is over 4 grand for the bike. as in illinois you have to pay 206 dollars for license when you buy the bike. so mine came with license plates on it and the sticker. ready to go on the road. but it was quite a bit over 4000 dollars.
Under $4k OTD with taxes, just keep shopping and making calls
@@redemptiverevelation i got the bike. i called every honda dealer in the state of illinois. see my new video
😮 How much do you weigh? Because mine won't do 55.
200ish..
I rode one once. I had only been riding for a few months at the time. It was underwhelming to say the least. It’s basically a moped trying to perpetrate a dual sport. I’m a big fan of Rado n DIrt n Iron but i gotta call bullshit when i see it. This is a bike that id recommend for a younger woman who wants a scooter for running around a city or campus, or for a teenage kid who plans to learn on this for a few months and then upgrade. If this is one of your choices for first bike i would really think hard about getting something a little more lively, like a crf/klx 250/300. I would hate to see anyone spend a few grand and then be unhappy with their purchase weeks later.
The xr 150 is not under 3k where I live. It's 4.8k before taxes.
Under $4k OTD with taxes and title where I live
Funny. I have been watching e-bike reviews and I’d say the XR150 competes and beats those bikes pretty handedly. I will keep my Wr250r, but it seems like a nifty little bike
Agree you cant buy a super73 for that price.
xr all day
Why not compare with honda xr190l ??
do not have one
You don't get 2k dollars more with the TW to justify the purchase IMO. Maybe if it was 1k more perhaps but I think the honda would be my choice.
No idea why the Honda is so heavy for only being a 150.
If I was gonna compare & spend up to $4900, I think I'd simply grab the Yamaha XT250 for $5100 if it's still that much? Depending
on what it's like where you live the Honda might be better? I like her for the weight.... or lack of. peace
Where are you riding?
Socal
So interested. Would you help me to have this bike. I can pay both purchase price and shipping price to Malawi. It very expensive in my country.
If honda made a CT-150 it would sell out very fast. Thailand factories please.
Yamaha xtz 125 the best and cheaper motorcycle in asia
Buena con la xr 150
Apologies, but the XR150L is not made in Japan, but in multiple countries for different markets. TW200 is still Japan and the price reflects that. I don't think that makes tons of difference, all the XR150Ls I have seen (4-5?) have looked well made and benefit from modern styling and ergonomics, as you say. The shame is that Yamaha is unlikely to ever build a next-gen bike for this category and the best we can hope is an ongoing supply of the "same same" Tdub. I might buy an XR150L to familiarize with as I have some ideas about doing motorcycle touring in Asia, where the model is common and I would rent/buy/some-such there.
Yeah the xr in the US is made in mexico but the xr150 has been proven and it's made by honda not honda japan but it's made by honda in SE asia by the least
I'll just keep my XR650R ;-)
Both of these bikes suck on the road. It is what it is. Gotta call a spade a spade. These are amazing bikes as campground bikes, for the back of an RV, at the track to run errands on, on a farm or rural setting, and for slow woods riding to just enjoy life, riding, and nature.
As soon as you hit the pavement the fun stops. Let's just be honest.
Unless of course you are in town, stop light to stop light, 25-35 mph urban riding. Then, again, these excel.
If you are trying to get to and from your favorite off road riding areas you should just look at these as a dirt bike and haul it in your truck and unload once you get there. And that is not a bad thing. You have all your tools, spare fuel, food, gear, etc..and can just ride for the afternoon in that forest system and load up and head home afterwards.
I will say that many times when something is built to sell at a lower price point than similar products of different models or different manufacturers then many times the quality of the parts or even the materials used can be off lesser quality than the higher priced similar products.
I have heard of reports of the XR150'S when pushed hard at highway speeds of consuming oil and it has become the consensus that the oil is being pushed out of the breather tube which is a common occurrence on some other Chinese based small motorcycle engines.
Sure such issues can be overcome but the point is my feelings are that this model of bike at its price point shares more in common with other similar Chinese branded products being sold online through outlets like Amazon than the majority of other bikes being sold at the Honda Dealership.
I beat them both. Bought a sweet, low miles 2007 Yamaha XT225 in 2013 for hundreds less than this weaker Chi/Mex Honda XR150.
Get a voge 300 rally for same price, better in all aspect
Agreed that's a double no no way😮
Xt250 hands down over these
i wouldnt give up my tw 200 for a 150 id move up to a yamaha 250
makes sense
Dam bruh these ppl be st8 flaming you in the comments in every vid I watch dang..what you do bruh 😂 anyway ! Thank you !
Sorry to burst bubbles, but this XR150 is built in Mexico by a Chinese company that "partners" with Honda. It nothing but a clone bike, like all the other crap out of China...There's no way its going to have the durability of a true XR. The reason why T-Dubs cost $2k more is because its a true Japanese motorcycle... Rule #1, you get what you pay for 😉
I bet the XR engine will last just as long as the tw.
@@toddkurtz1468 ...You go ahead and make that bet, buddy. If you buy this XR and think you are getting a Honda quality engine(or motorcycle), think again...
I'll let you know because I own one. I only have 1700 miles on it but when I get to 20000 I'll let you know. Plenty of people around the world have put over 30000 miles on these things. It's got the absolute worst suspension but what do you expect for 2971.00? I've got a KTM 350excf as a real dirt bike. I even commute on the freeway with it. No problem drafting cars and maintaining 65. This bike is several steps above you run of the mill Chinese bike.
@@painsrides A lot of people were saying the same thing when Honda started selling the made in Thailand CBR250, but it didn’t stop me from buying one and putting on 40k trouble free miles.
If Honda puts their name on something it’s going to meet their standards.
@@ryanb5189 Taiwanese manufacturing is a different animal from Chinese. Maybe I was a little harsh in my initial post, but I have a strong distain for Chinese motorcycles and I do not like this trend of major manufactures(like Honda) using Chinese facilities to manufacture or simply rebadge Chinese motorcycles to sell as their own. Its sleezy way to up profits that is ultimately going to hurt quality across the industry... Not to mention supporting an authoritarian government.....
No, it won't go 70mph, more like 55-60mph.
Total BS on the pricing.
Stealerships are adding insane fees to these.
Buy my TW instead. 😂
2022
Whatever the butt-hurts say, the bike is reliable.
You should correct yourself as the XR150L has been for sale for over 20 years internationally. Clearly you did not do any research. 💩