Also, Linkara forgot to act out that most awesome of moments from Infinity War. Galactus: "Silence, fool! Mighty Galactus knows what must be done!" Thanos: "Does mighty Galactus know that our chances of outrunning this disturbance are minimal?" Galactus: "Does annoying Thanos have an alternative course of action to suggest?" Thanos: "...no." Galactus: "Then let silence reign."
I love the idea that thanos is just doing what he does for really mundane reasons. Like he kills half the universe...to get a date. He stops wielding the powers of a god...because his date was going poorly and...farming?
Part of why I love the original run instead of the Eco-Terrorist angle for the movie. Though Linkara's recap there (probably for humor) didn't mention that the tragedy is Death did love Thanos. It was their own mental issues. They wanted to be equals, and joined together as equals. Death rejects Thanos not because Thanos is creepy, but because she sees herself not worthy of the all powerful entity Thanos. And Thanos becomes such an entity because he saw his mere titan self as not worth of Death. It was a lack of communication and acceptance in pursuit of an idea of becoming equal to your perceived would be better half. But that might just be me and my bastardized reading of the events.
Hitomi Salazar “To Challenge them would be to court death”. Someone in the comments of a video of that scene put it best. It’s clear they didn’t have a plan until they started writing Infinity War and Endgame besides getting the Infinity Stones and possibly doing a loose adaptation of Infinity Gauntlet. Plus Death appears in Guardians 1 in mural form I believe in the Moragg temple.
@@hitomisalazar4073 PLus his comics motivation is far more unique and interesting than "save the universe by murdering everyone" which a TON of villains have tried so it's not unique
@@sarafontanini7051 It does help add to how grand and powerful his character is. Like the Greek gods playing with the lives of mortals for petty reasons. To him, wiping out the universe is as mundane as buying flowers. All that destruction and death just to impress the woman he's after, that's horrifying. That says more about Thanos's evil than anything else.
Here's a thought on Magus's planning (or lack thereof): remember how Adam removed the good and evil, leaving only logic? It could be argued that Magus inherently lacks logic, and acts solely in reaction to events.
"A ton of birds are about to get superpowers." I now want a comic about a flock of hulk birds. They should be songbirds just to complete the absurdity.
"I never knew Master Chief worked for Doctor Doom." That's a red costume, which means its actually Master Chief's evil opposite: Private Slave. His story is he's mad that he could never get promoted.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about that quiet moment when Death talked to Thanos and ordered him to kill Adam Warlock. Because she owes him for saving her life, and she can't stand being in debt to *anyone*. Her finally speaking to him, and Thanos contemplating the implications of killing Warlock and deciding against it, was a great character moment
I think the evil duplicates make a kind of sense, at least as far as Magus is concerned. Fact is, he knows he's an evil duplicate of Warlock, so I think his obsession with grotesque shadows of heroes fits in with what he's all about. It may not make the most narrative sense (distractions for other tie-in books, mostly), but it suits the villain's sensibilities well.
"Marvel sees something successful and decides to roll with it as many times as they can get away with" No wonder Disney Bought Marvel, They have the same mindset
Logan Palmer exactly. I’d get complaints if, similar to some events in marvel like secret wars, they started off very good then got worse as they repeated events. But they don’t
Fun Fact about Doppelganger: He is actually still alive, as far as I know. While he seemed to have died during Maximum Carnage, the thing is with him, he can't actually ever die since he was never technically alive. (I dunno, comic books.) He later appeared during the Carnage mini-series, still working with Shriek, and helping her free Cletus Kasady and reunite him with the Carnage Symbiote, after Cletus had seemingly died after being ripped in half by the Sentry. I believe he appeared again during the storyline Carnage USA, and then most recently we actually see him during the lead up to Absolute Carnage. So... yeah, Doppelganger continues to be a thing, even if it regulates him to always being around his "parents" Shriek and Carnage. Makes me wonder why none of the other evil versions of the Marvel Heroes haven't shown up.
Im more questioning how spiderman’s is the only one that lived and is still around yet the others died upon being beat or destroyed by galactus’s multi mordal reflection sorting
Actually Pym did have powers. His schtick at this point was that instead of shrinking or growing himself, he would keep shrunken objects and tools in his pockets and enlarge them as needed. It was a side story in West Coast Avengers during the whole period where the main team was stuck travelling through time. He'd gotten pretty depressed for a time and contemplated suicide until the former WCA ally Firebird, who'd gotten some angel like powers for a bit, helped him recover. He came to the conclusion that all the different identities were part of his mental illness and needed to just be himself, Dr. Pym the scientific adventurer. In his initial outing where he helped get the West Coast Avengers back to the present, he actually dressed like the Fourth Doctor. That was quickly changed out for the red jumpsuit with lots of pockets seen here. Of course as soon as another writer gets hold of him in the main Avengers book, he's back to playing musical identities and becomes Giant Man again despite numerous times we've been told his body can no longer stand the stress of growing. I liked how years later, after adopting the identity of The Wasp, Iron Man totally disses him for this. Tony said he shouldn't lead the mission because he's Hank Pym. Pym responds that he's The Wasp now. Tony replies, "Exactly my point."
The problem with the Infinity Crossover Trilogy (Gauntlet, War, Crusade) is that they were written by Jim Starlin. See, Jim Starlin is actually a pretty solid writer for the most part, but he tends to have a narrow focus with his pet characters. Said pet characters being Thanos and Adam Warlock. All of the Infinity crossovers are basically about how Adam Warlock and Thanos make these decisions and actions that shape the very foundation of the universe, while Earth's heroes don't really matter much to the plot at all. It can actually come across as Starlin using the heroes comic readers want to read about (Spider-Man, the Avengers, the X-Men, etc.) as a way to get people to read his stories about Thanos and Warlock. If you take the Earth-based Marvel heroes out of the Infinity Trilogy, nothing really much changes, they could have been replaced with cosmic characters drawn from the Shi'Ar Imperial Guard, the Inhumans, the Kree, the Skrulls and so on, and nothing really would have changed from a story perspective. The Infinity Trilogy really could have just been a story in Adam Warlock's solo book, but without the actual characters people want to read, the book wouldn't have sold. So it's turned into a mega-crossover so everyone can read Starlin's Thanos and Warlock stories. It's really made clearest when Starlin wrote a story involving Annihilus, who Thanos noted was evolving into the scariest cosmic being Thanos could think of. And what type of being is that? A being outsider of Order and Chaos, just like Thanos and Warlock. Basically, the only thing that scares Thanos is someone becoming exactly like him and Warlock.
I've struggled to find words for this until now, but watching your show is exactly like that feeling I used to get when I'd wake up on Saturday morning and sit down to watch Saturday morning cartoons as a kid. And that's about the highest praise I can give a show.
This was the culmination of a bit of a conflict between depictions of the cosmic side of Marvel between Mark Gruenwald's Quasar and Jim Starlin's books (mostly Warlock, but also Silver Surfer). Gruenwald was pushing Quasar as a significant player in that arena, but he found himself undercut by the commercial success of Starlin's books. Quasar was never quite as significant again.
Responding to your twitter comments. You gave us *three weeks* worth of content last week, I doubt anyone in the audience is overly upset about a slight delay in getting *another* oversized episode this week. And probably the next two weeks as well.
Final Crisis would might even give us 4 episodes of 21 minutes. BECAUSE the set up was HUGE, ad even then it was just minimal (BECAUSE countdown sucked. and not even morrison could save it.)
"How much of a step up is infinite power?" Um.. infinite...? It doesn't matter how powerful they seem, if their power is finite then they are infinitely less powerful than having infinite power.
I like how Adam Warlock’s original belt has Josuke Higashikata’s peace sign, and the Magus’s has Killer Queen’s skull on his. Maybe Araki’s a fan of cosmic Marvel?
Adam Warlock's original outfit was partially designed by Roy Thomas, who was a huge Captain Marvel fan. Fawcett Captain Marvel, who eventually got bought by DC, not Marvel Captain Marvel. Though, due to his love of Fawcett's Captain Marvel, Thomas set up a situation where Marvel Captain Marvel--the original Marvel Captain Marvel, the Kree Captain Mar-Vell--had to swap places with a young man from Earth in a flash of lightning-like energy. In this case, Rick Jones, after a brief stint in which he was a replacement Bucky for Captain America, being trained up to snuff, but deciding he wanted to focus more on his music. And if you think the Magus' look is silly, just picture his original look: exactly the same, except instead of a topknot, imagine a 3-foot diameter afro.
Also, that Nova, Galactus' herald, is the second Nova, Frankie Ray, a mutant with fire powers who was briefly Johnny Storm's girlfriend before she became Galactus' herald. Not the Silver Age Nova, Rich Rider, who was a founding member of the New Warriors, and eventually went off to great heights in Annihilation.
I mean, Hawkeye was the leader of the West Coast Avengers at the time (I think, I forget if he stepped down before or after force works) so that could explain why he would be replaced. Plus like wolverine's enhanced smell, Hawkeye does have really good eyes and may have been able to spot differences better, but that's a stretch.
17:08 I would absolutely be on board with a series about a team of gamma-irradiated super-pigeons fighting Squirrel Girl and her furry minions for control of Central Park. And so would you.
not gonna lie I feel like the Earth Heroes are pretty much there to serve as audience surrogates in these events. since all the cosmic characters pretty much know enough of what's going on to feel like you jumped mid-story
I can't not see Thanos as one of literature's great tragic figures. I am a firm believer in the theory that the enteral theme of all good tragedy stems from the phrase: "it could have been great". The hero that Thanos could have been.
Dalton Williams His appearances are very brief, he's chased off by the Mercury Team symbiote soldiers, again fight off Spider-Man and Mercury Team, and is seen running away when the giant Carnage symbiote was blown up. I can understand you not remembering him in Carnage USA as while Clayton Crain's art is awesome, Doppelganger blended in with the Carnage possessed minions.
To my knowledge "Magus" is pronounced "MAY-guss" instead of "MA-jus", and both the dictionary and Marvel's recent cartoons agree with me. But yes, he DOES look incredibly silly.
Tuvya Maeir yup, and it is a synonym for mage or _warlock_ and has always been pronounced may-gus, even in the pilot if Disney's Gargoyles, where the mage who puts the Gargoyles under the spell is called the Magus (may-gus) :) As for his appearance, to be fair, Warlock had a better outfit in this era, but his hair was also ridiculous, imo. They didn't get Warlock and his alternate future self the Magus right until the 2000s, I'm, when they just gave them longish hair
Linkara not being able to use his own magic to turn the bank into an actual infinity gauntlet actually makes sense. There is only so much magic power he's got access to, he was struggling to make the power ranger morphers. Plus he's only begining to understand his power. If his magic was so strong that recreate the Infinity Gauntlet...he wouldn't NEED to.
If you think Magus looks silly here, just imagine him with his original 70s perm. Congrats to Ron Lim for anticipating the man-bun trend by twenty years, btw.
Fun fact! AMC is going to have a complete MCU marathon that will end with Infinity War right after Black Panther. Which by the way is 38 HOURS! Anyone going to do it? Thought I should bring this up due to, you know, Infinity War.
I will love it if Marvel actually have a after credit scene with Thanos as a farmer. I suprisingly really like him here, he was never a villian and he sure is´t a hero here but he does have his strange motive and lack of understanding good and evil which I actually like. But is it from this the double gangers came from? Is this it? Wow imagine Maximum Carnage did way more with Doubleganger then the event comic he came from, and was he the only one who survived? I do hope you will go trought Maximum Carnage since now you go trought comics you do like and I do like MC. Crossing my fingers here. Seeing this right after Infinite Crisis Marvel heroes are so wastley outclassed by any cosmic being in terms of power. Just the Green Lantherns from DC is stronger then everything Marvel got, in terms of mortal heroes. But it is´t about power but it feels like Marvel is trying to use it´s heroes the same way DC does then Marvel heroes got there own charm, like in Secret Wars or that Avengers vs JL crossover.
+Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall OMG WORLD WAR HULK!! Now this is what I have been waiting for ever since your first Episode. and now.. THE TIME HAS FINALLY COME. Thank you Lewis
By reputation alone (literally), Pilo simply demands recognition by even the mightiest of warriors across the multiverse. ...But lemme tell you something, brutther: this weekend at ContestMania, dude, your Pilo better be prepared to get rocked-'n-rolled like he was sipping Rollin' Rock while on the Rollin' Rocker, cause sooner or later, DESTROGALGA, KING OF CREATURES, is gonna be crashing your little rock concert! So your precious Pilo better use Harden until Nothing Happens and hope he has the stones to stay in the ring for five minutes with the Dynamite Dino! #TeamDestrogalga #HailToTheCreatureKing
Eh, I wouldn't really say World War Hulk by itself was much of a war either. Hulk Curbstomps a few people, force the Illuminati to fight in a gladiator fight, then battles the Sentry. Most of what could be called a war was in the tie-in issues.
Wooooo! Can't wait for that Tops Barker battle! Dude's been training real hard for this opportunity and I feel his skillset has a good matchup against Heavy Wrex.
I feel like the Magus's plan wasn't actually as specific as you make it out to be. Basically boiled down to telling Thanos he was up to something to get him on the path to investigating with Adam and then create enough chaos and shows of power to make them feel like they need the gauntlet so they'll undo the restrictions. Though like you said, the Earth hero stuff is pretty much pointless and only there to make it feel like an event. Just bread crumbing Galactus and Thanos/Adam's group together would have likely been enough to get them to do it.
Thing that bugs me about Events is that they're not internally consistent - as if individual writers were never told the big picture. In CoIE the Flash and The Losers and others just died but Supergirl was erased from continuity. In Millenium some characters had always been Manhunters but others were just replaced by Manhunters.
So wait a sec.....if Magus is an evil personification/version of Adam Warlock......does that mean this is a case of a male hero "turning villain" where they actually LOST clothing instead of gaining more?
I feel like The Thing is the the with the high defense and attack, the Invisible Woman high special defense, Human Torch high Special Attack and Speed, Mister Fantastic high HP, and She-Hulk high HP and Attack.
Man. I LOVED this crossover when it came out in Italy (a year after the US, I think), but watching your review made me realize that... yeah, the plan was needlessly complicated. Still, I really liked the development Ron Lim did with Thanos, and hated the way other writers chose to ignore it to have back the super powerful death worshipper. My 15yo self, though, really liked the doppelgängers. Also, it’s a bit strange hearing your pronunciation of Magus’ name: in Italy we’d say it more closely to the Latin pronunciation, I guess. 🧐 In all, an excellent review. You’re talented as usual. :)
Which really begs the question on what the 4th one will be called since we're not doing Parts 1 and 2 anymore. Infinity Gauntlet as the title of the 4th would make sense, but while Infinity Crusade would sound better, it wouldn't make any sense at all.
+BaronSengir1008 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought an age was just a specific period of time. I didn't think a necessary amount of time was needed for something to be an 'Age.'
17:00 While I'm no expert in nuclear fusion, fission, or explosions I can explain this sequence. Erik Masterson is able to send the fallout into space because fallout is just what it sounds like, radioactive dust "falling out" from the bomb, thus it can be swept away by winds. (in fact that is one of the reasons why an atomic bomb is so lethal.) Though that doesn't change the fact that the fallout is actually MORE lethal in space as is can now go to the oceans, (but you know, what would a METEOROLOGIST know about the WEATHER?!) Or that the wind would do squat to the actual radiation, OR the fact that the blastwave would level an entire city block in a fraction of a second. (But it's a super hero comic so we can cut them some slack on the last one.)
Yeah, the earth heroes were probably inserted in order to lure in some fans of those series, rather than having any importance. You know, sales do matter. They improved on that in the Annihilation saga and its sequels in the mid 2000s, focusing solely on Marvel Cosmic characters (and a few rando's like Cammi and Jack Flag). And while this created some of the best events of the past few decades (IMHO), it also made a lot of people skip it. I only went to read it all when the first Guardians movie was announced and immediately felt bad for skipping it when it was originally released.
You and me both. It felt like BMB was thrown onto that comic and had to write it in less than a month, without any knowledge of anything related to Marvel Cosmic.
not just blind guardian. but one of the best songs ever. and one i wish i was an animator so i could make a video for of 2 armies marching on eachother. and singing the song in tandem
“When the tentacles finish...whatever it is they’re doing.” Marge: That seemed awfully quick... Kang: What are you implying?! Marge: Nothing, nothing...
How is it, that linkara accomplishes to get me way more invested and happy with these little snippets than Dragon Ball Super in all of its running time?
Not necessarily the Death stuff, but at some point being this force of cosmic balance. Oh and seeing him being a farmer would be pretty amusing even after everything he did.
Okay, this one's somewhat less head-spinny, I appreciate that. And hey, congrats on managing to keep it down to a single episode this time! Though I guess a sequel that happened sooner and had rather less going on would help with that. I agree that the ordinary heroes felt like they were dragged along for the ride, but it was still cool watching them try to figure things out. And Thanos is a surprisingly compelling figure -- a villain redemption arc done right. (Shame to read in the other comments that apparently he reverts to dumb evil in the end. . .) A shame it wasn't done a little better, but hey -- good popcorn flick stuff. Also, #TeamSteve! I hope you fight him, I want to see what he's like. (Ditto for Pilo, of course.)
11:28: "Not over the wire." Seriously? How old-fashioned is Reed Richards? Is he mentally stuck in the 19th century and thinks the superheroes' big-ass satellite-phone conference call computer is an electrical wire telegraph? Will he be using morse code next? Or semaphore?
I think Magus looked even worse when he had an afro. At least the man bun has some dignity in it's allusions to samurai. I think the fro even appears in this story.
Also, Linkara forgot to act out that most awesome of moments from Infinity War.
Galactus: "Silence, fool! Mighty Galactus knows what must be done!"
Thanos: "Does mighty Galactus know that our chances of outrunning this disturbance are minimal?"
Galactus: "Does annoying Thanos have an alternative course of action to suggest?"
Thanos: "...no."
Galactus: "Then let silence reign."
Mighty Galactus does not tolerate back seat drivers!
Anthony Naranjo well then, mighty Thanos calls shotgun
RomLoneWolf23 Thanos: "If mighty Galactus knew what needs to be done, then why did he not do it earlier!"
@@ayaanshah2417 Thanos: Mighty Galactus is an idiot, and should leave the science to the smart people!
@@ayaanshah2417 Thanos: and how did your last date go?
I love the idea that thanos is just doing what he does for really mundane reasons. Like he kills half the universe...to get a date. He stops wielding the powers of a god...because his date was going poorly and...farming?
"And then... I finally rest, and watch the sun rise on a grateful universe."
Part of why I love the original run instead of the Eco-Terrorist angle for the movie. Though Linkara's recap there (probably for humor) didn't mention that the tragedy is Death did love Thanos. It was their own mental issues. They wanted to be equals, and joined together as equals. Death rejects Thanos not because Thanos is creepy, but because she sees herself not worthy of the all powerful entity Thanos. And Thanos becomes such an entity because he saw his mere titan self as not worth of Death. It was a lack of communication and acceptance in pursuit of an idea of becoming equal to your perceived would be better half.
But that might just be me and my bastardized reading of the events.
Hitomi Salazar “To Challenge them would be to court death”. Someone in the comments of a video of that scene put it best. It’s clear they didn’t have a plan until they started writing Infinity War and Endgame besides getting the Infinity Stones and possibly doing a loose adaptation of Infinity Gauntlet. Plus Death appears in Guardians 1 in mural form I believe in the Moragg temple.
@@hitomisalazar4073 PLus his comics motivation is far more unique and interesting than "save the universe by murdering everyone" which a TON of villains have tried so it's not unique
@@sarafontanini7051 It does help add to how grand and powerful his character is. Like the Greek gods playing with the lives of mortals for petty reasons. To him, wiping out the universe is as mundane as buying flowers. All that destruction and death just to impress the woman he's after, that's horrifying. That says more about Thanos's evil than anything else.
I love that "evil Thanos" is just an exact duplicate of Thanos with absolutely no changes inside or out.
"They are the stain on your shirt that refuses to go away no matter how many times you put it through the wash."
So... they are Darkwing Duck?
CanuckWolfman I thought the exact same thing.
Or they're like Pincer from that Hasselhoff Nick Fury movie. Yeah, that thing...existed.
"They are the metal key on the sardine can of justice!!!!"
"They are the termite that devours your floorboards."
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They are the bad burrito that comes back on you in a crowded elevator.
Kang and Doom’s little road trip together is my favorite part of this whole story
Here's a thought on Magus's planning (or lack thereof): remember how Adam removed the good and evil, leaving only logic? It could be argued that Magus inherently lacks logic, and acts solely in reaction to events.
"A ton of birds are about to get superpowers."
I now want a comic about a flock of hulk birds. They should be songbirds just to complete the absurdity.
Tiny sparrow turns into giant beefcake monster when you try and take away its fatcake
they could fight the turkeys with wolverine's DNA from that one x-23 book.
@@michaelkeenan2307 Because of course that exists..
Wait a second... Purple outfit... Blue skin... And a thing for skulls... Is Magus the living version of Skeletor?
lol, i said the same thing also!
Concordia Harmony (German accent) hello little baby man
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Come on thanos, come out of the closet, you know you want to.
"I never knew Master Chief worked for Doctor Doom."
That's a red costume, which means its actually Master Chief's evil opposite: Private Slave. His story is he's mad that he could never get promoted.
I love seeing Galactus working with other characters like this
I'm surprised you didn't talk about that quiet moment when Death talked to Thanos and ordered him to kill Adam Warlock. Because she owes him for saving her life, and she can't stand being in debt to *anyone*. Her finally speaking to him, and Thanos contemplating the implications of killing Warlock and deciding against it, was a great character moment
CaptainMarvell92 Returns Did it? I read the trade. Didn't realize.
I think the evil duplicates make a kind of sense, at least as far as Magus is concerned. Fact is, he knows he's an evil duplicate of Warlock, so I think his obsession with grotesque shadows of heroes fits in with what he's all about. It may not make the most narrative sense (distractions for other tie-in books, mostly), but it suits the villain's sensibilities well.
"Marvel sees something successful and decides to roll with it as many times as they can get away with"
No wonder Disney Bought Marvel, They have the same mindset
That is why MCU movies just go on and on and on...
@@yurilouback6331 And they're still profitable (and great,) so why not?
Logan Palmer exactly. I’d get complaints if, similar to some events in marvel like secret wars, they started off very good then got worse as they repeated events. But they don’t
@@yurilouback6331 You do realize you made that statement in the comment section of a TH-cam Series run by a Doctor Who fan, right?
@@ilopominecrafter Secret Wars is a bad example since the last two sequel(Beyond! and Secret Wars 2015) they did were good.
Fun Fact about Doppelganger:
He is actually still alive, as far as I know. While he seemed to have died during Maximum Carnage, the thing is with him, he can't actually ever die since he was never technically alive. (I dunno, comic books.) He later appeared during the Carnage mini-series, still working with Shriek, and helping her free Cletus Kasady and reunite him with the Carnage Symbiote, after Cletus had seemingly died after being ripped in half by the Sentry. I believe he appeared again during the storyline Carnage USA, and then most recently we actually see him during the lead up to Absolute Carnage. So... yeah, Doppelganger continues to be a thing, even if it regulates him to always being around his "parents" Shriek and Carnage. Makes me wonder why none of the other evil versions of the Marvel Heroes haven't shown up.
Im more questioning how spiderman’s is the only one that lived and is still around yet the others died upon being beat or destroyed by galactus’s multi mordal reflection sorting
Actually Pym did have powers. His schtick at this point was that instead of shrinking or growing himself, he would keep shrunken objects and tools in his pockets and enlarge them as needed.
It was a side story in West Coast Avengers during the whole period where the main team was stuck travelling through time. He'd gotten pretty depressed for a time and contemplated suicide until the former WCA ally Firebird, who'd gotten some angel like powers for a bit, helped him recover. He came to the conclusion that all the different identities were part of his mental illness and needed to just be himself, Dr. Pym the scientific adventurer. In his initial outing where he helped get the West Coast Avengers back to the present, he actually dressed like the Fourth Doctor. That was quickly changed out for the red jumpsuit with lots of pockets seen here.
Of course as soon as another writer gets hold of him in the main Avengers book, he's back to playing musical identities and becomes Giant Man again despite numerous times we've been told his body can no longer stand the stress of growing. I liked how years later, after adopting the identity of The Wasp, Iron Man totally disses him for this. Tony said he shouldn't lead the mission because he's Hank Pym. Pym responds that he's The Wasp now. Tony replies, "Exactly my point."
So he found a way to have bigger on the inside pockets in the immediately did a Doctor Who cosplay I can respect that
Because when you can't succeed in scoring a date with someone, spend the rest of your life as a farmer.
Marc Baker hey if you become a farmer you might met a beatiful country girl or boy and get married havent you play harvest moon or story of seasons
My home town is NOTHING like 'Harvest Moon'.
Who do you think farms? Rejected people, that's who.
He bought the farm after getting rejected.
Well it makes sense.
HULK FEEL HE HAD BETTER WAR THAN PUNY MAGUS.
HULK'S WAR IS WARREST THERE IS!
Caz pants to be hulked
35:43 damn that girl is hot
Sorry but no. That goes to the book, World War Z.
You WILL believe a man-bun can threaten the universe!
It would have been funnier still, if he had the default Magus Afro...
The problem with the Infinity Crossover Trilogy (Gauntlet, War, Crusade) is that they were written by Jim Starlin. See, Jim Starlin is actually a pretty solid writer for the most part, but he tends to have a narrow focus with his pet characters. Said pet characters being Thanos and Adam Warlock. All of the Infinity crossovers are basically about how Adam Warlock and Thanos make these decisions and actions that shape the very foundation of the universe, while Earth's heroes don't really matter much to the plot at all.
It can actually come across as Starlin using the heroes comic readers want to read about (Spider-Man, the Avengers, the X-Men, etc.) as a way to get people to read his stories about Thanos and Warlock. If you take the Earth-based Marvel heroes out of the Infinity Trilogy, nothing really much changes, they could have been replaced with cosmic characters drawn from the Shi'Ar Imperial Guard, the Inhumans, the Kree, the Skrulls and so on, and nothing really would have changed from a story perspective. The Infinity Trilogy really could have just been a story in Adam Warlock's solo book, but without the actual characters people want to read, the book wouldn't have sold. So it's turned into a mega-crossover so everyone can read Starlin's Thanos and Warlock stories.
It's really made clearest when Starlin wrote a story involving Annihilus, who Thanos noted was evolving into the scariest cosmic being Thanos could think of. And what type of being is that? A being outsider of Order and Chaos, just like Thanos and Warlock. Basically, the only thing that scares Thanos is someone becoming exactly like him and Warlock.
Galactus, you fool! You picked the wrong person to help with your case! You should've gotten Daredevil!
Martialartfruituser he should have just recruited Pilo to stop Magus
if he needed a superhero lawyer, he probably should've gotten She-Hulk, since she's had experience in the cosmic courtroom, so to speak
Or Phoenix Wright...
There is something absolutely priceless about Linkara portraying Doom
It cracks me up every time 😂
I've struggled to find words for this until now, but watching your show is exactly like that feeling I used to get when I'd wake up on Saturday morning and sit down to watch Saturday morning cartoons as a kid. And that's about the highest praise I can give a show.
Drifter Carbon I know right? I’ve been binging this show for a couple of weeks now and I love it!
This was the culmination of a bit of a conflict between depictions of the cosmic side of Marvel between Mark Gruenwald's Quasar and Jim Starlin's books (mostly Warlock, but also Silver Surfer). Gruenwald was pushing Quasar as a significant player in that arena, but he found himself undercut by the commercial success of Starlin's books.
Quasar was never quite as significant again.
Responding to your twitter comments. You gave us *three weeks* worth of content last week, I doubt anyone in the audience is overly upset about a slight delay in getting *another* oversized episode this week. And probably the next two weeks as well.
Final Crisis would might even give us 4 episodes of 21 minutes. BECAUSE the set up was HUGE, ad even then it was just minimal (BECAUSE countdown sucked. and not even morrison could save it.)
"How much of a step up is infinite power?" Um.. infinite...? It doesn't matter how powerful they seem, if their power is finite then they are infinitely less powerful than having infinite power.
Though the gauntlet wouldn't work and had 5 cosmic cubes. He kinda is up there in terms of omnipotence
I like how Adam Warlock’s original belt has Josuke Higashikata’s peace sign, and the Magus’s has Killer Queen’s skull on his.
Maybe Araki’s a fan of cosmic Marvel?
Sambou Jaiteh LET THE INFINITY GAUNTLET, GIVE YOU POWERS TO CONTROL EVERYTHIIIIIIIING
Cz the VoltMan No no no, didn’t you see the thumbnail? It is and always has been the Infinity Oven Mitt
We at least know he's a Spider-Man fan because of how he designed Jolyne
Also he has the original Captain Marvel's lightning bolt. The Fawcett/DC one.
CaptainMarvell92 Returns no is just a theory... an infinity theory
21:54
Note: The Cosmic Cube can do anything!
Only in Atop the Fourth Wall would a stack of rocks get top billing over the host. XD
When your own show doesn't even support you...
Do not deny the glory that is Pilo! Their support crosses multiverses; none shall stand against Pilo!
Of course! Pilo is WAY better than some badger that reviews late night talk shows.
well Pilo's team probably just bought ad space
24:15
"This is getting out of hand. Now, there are two of them!"
King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England I understood the reference.
judeskater93 A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England "Are the Kamen Rider timeliness colliding again?"
26:26 To quote Semi-perfect Cell from Dragon Ball Z Abridged: "I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!!"
Adam Warlock's original outfit was partially designed by Roy Thomas, who was a huge Captain Marvel fan.
Fawcett Captain Marvel, who eventually got bought by DC, not Marvel Captain Marvel. Though, due to his love of Fawcett's Captain Marvel, Thomas set up a situation where Marvel Captain Marvel--the original Marvel Captain Marvel, the Kree Captain Mar-Vell--had to swap places with a young man from Earth in a flash of lightning-like energy. In this case, Rick Jones, after a brief stint in which he was a replacement Bucky for Captain America, being trained up to snuff, but deciding he wanted to focus more on his music.
And if you think the Magus' look is silly, just picture his original look: exactly the same, except instead of a topknot, imagine a 3-foot diameter afro.
Also, that Nova, Galactus' herald, is the second Nova, Frankie Ray, a mutant with fire powers who was briefly Johnny Storm's girlfriend before she became Galactus' herald. Not the Silver Age Nova, Rich Rider, who was a founding member of the New Warriors, and eventually went off to great heights in Annihilation.
I mean, Hawkeye was the leader of the West Coast Avengers at the time (I think, I forget if he stepped down before or after force works) so that could explain why he would be replaced. Plus like wolverine's enhanced smell, Hawkeye does have really good eyes and may have been able to spot differences better, but that's a stretch.
I wonder who Doom was passive-aggressively throwing shade at when he said "unlike *some* monarchs"?
17:08 I would absolutely be on board with a series about a team of gamma-irradiated super-pigeons fighting Squirrel Girl and her furry minions for control of Central Park. And so would you.
not gonna lie I feel like the Earth Heroes are pretty much there to serve as audience surrogates in these events. since all the cosmic characters pretty much know enough of what's going on to feel like you jumped mid-story
8:29: If you think this is weird, you should’ve seen him in his Afro phase. No seriously.
0:01 - 0:41 Did... did I click the right link?
Jonathan Ellis nope. Better
32:20 I love how these two are just making fun of each other while fleeing imminent demise
I can't not see Thanos as one of literature's great tragic figures. I am a firm believer in the theory that the enteral theme of all good tragedy stems from the phrase: "it could have been great". The hero that Thanos could have been.
26:34: Thanos, stop taking lessons from Light Yagami! Just...no.
29:37: Unless its Luke Cage's (roughly, inflated from $200 in 1973) $1150.
I think Doom is my favorite Linkara take, “Doom can drive Stick!”
Doppelganger actually did return in the 2011 Carnage mini-series and its sequel Carnage USA
That's why I said "Seemingly" died.
Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall Oh ok. Misheard you there.
Wait, i read carnage usa. I don't remember anything like that
Dalton Williams His appearances are very brief, he's chased off by the Mercury Team symbiote soldiers, again fight off Spider-Man and Mercury Team, and is seen running away when the giant Carnage symbiote was blown up. I can understand you not remembering him in Carnage USA as while Clayton Crain's art is awesome, Doppelganger blended in with the Carnage possessed minions.
To my knowledge "Magus" is pronounced "MAY-guss" instead of "MA-jus", and both the dictionary and Marvel's recent cartoons agree with me. But yes, he DOES look incredibly silly.
Tuvya Maeir Ma guss
Tuvya Maeir yup, and it is a synonym for mage or _warlock_ and has always been pronounced may-gus, even in the pilot if Disney's Gargoyles, where the mage who puts the Gargoyles under the spell is called the Magus (may-gus) :)
As for his appearance, to be fair, Warlock had a better outfit in this era, but his hair was also ridiculous, imo. They didn't get Warlock and his alternate future self the Magus right until the 2000s, I'm, when they just gave them longish hair
Back in the 70s, Magus had an Afro.
@@L1701 He looked like the Lion from the Bannana Splits lol
Why do i have a feeling this is the Marvel equivalant of "How do you pronounce Ra's in Ra's al Ghul"?
20:52 Oh hey, I just noticed the cameo from Dark Hawk. I love that hero, he's one of the first comic heroes I read about.
Linkara not being able to use his own magic to turn the bank into an actual infinity gauntlet actually makes sense. There is only so much magic power he's got access to, he was struggling to make the power ranger morphers. Plus he's only begining to understand his power. If his magic was so strong that recreate the Infinity Gauntlet...he wouldn't NEED to.
Can we get a buddy comedy with Dr. Doom and Kang the Conqueror on a Doctor Who esque road trip together?
If you think Magus looks silly here, just imagine him with his original 70s perm.
Congrats to Ron Lim for anticipating the man-bun trend by twenty years, btw.
Thanos has been sent into the cornfield!
"I Am Inevitable."
Fun fact! AMC is going to have a complete MCU marathon that will end with Infinity War right after Black Panther. Which by the way is 38 HOURS! Anyone going to do it? Thought I should bring this up due to, you know, Infinity War.
Raptorus77 that's not a complete. A complete MCU marathon would include all the TV shows, which would take much longer than 38 hours
Raptorus77 who's AMC? Although I'd still want to do that marathon.
Mujtaba Walji a war is coming, and you cannot stop it, prepare yourselves mortals, for you shall face, INFINITY!!!
Raptorus77 I went there
@@paulakroy2635 oh no, I meant the pissing contest between Thanos and Darkseid over who gets to date death.
Dr. Doom has a sence that tingles every time he could be doomed. That's how he became a god in the Secret Wars remake
I will love it if Marvel actually have a after credit scene with Thanos as a farmer. I suprisingly really like him here, he was never a villian and he sure is´t a hero here but he does have his strange motive and lack of understanding good and evil which I actually like. But is it from this the double gangers came from? Is this it? Wow imagine Maximum Carnage did way more with Doubleganger then the event comic he came from, and was he the only one who survived? I do hope you will go trought Maximum Carnage since now you go trought comics you do like and I do like MC. Crossing my fingers here. Seeing this right after Infinite Crisis Marvel heroes are so wastley outclassed by any cosmic being in terms of power. Just the Green Lantherns from DC is stronger then everything Marvel got, in terms of mortal heroes. But it is´t about power but it feels like Marvel is trying to use it´s heroes the same way DC does then Marvel heroes got there own charm, like in Secret Wars or that Avengers vs JL crossover.
We do see him as a farmer for like a minute early in Avengers: Endgame, but [spoilers redacted for those who havent seen Endgame yet].
Magus looks like an edgier version of Captain Ginyu from DBZ
CaptainMarvell92 Returns so?
CaptainMarvell92 Returns why?
CaptainMarvell92 Returns which is relevant because?
+Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall OMG WORLD WAR HULK!! Now this is what I have been waiting for ever since your first Episode. and now.. THE TIME HAS FINALLY COME. Thank you Lewis
Merry Christmas, Linkara :D "Pants to be eboned" is my favorite joke for this christmas
#TeamPilo
#PiloWillRockYou
You're falling exactly into his trap
AnonJl1 I just realized... We either don't get linkara vs. pilo, linkara v. Kaiju and pilo vs. Kaiju!
By reputation alone (literally), Pilo simply demands recognition by even the mightiest of warriors across the multiverse.
...But lemme tell you something, brutther: this weekend at ContestMania, dude, your Pilo better be prepared to get rocked-'n-rolled like he was sipping Rollin' Rock while on the Rollin' Rocker, cause sooner or later, DESTROGALGA, KING OF CREATURES, is gonna be crashing your little rock concert! So your precious Pilo better use Harden until Nothing Happens and hope he has the stones to stay in the ring for five minutes with the Dynamite Dino!
#TeamDestrogalga
#HailToTheCreatureKing
AnonJl1 I AM FROM BEYOND! I AM VERY PISSED THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN DEFEAT MY OWN CHAMPION!! ALL SHALL FACE VENGEANCE!!!
I absolutely adore the Doctor Doom cosplay gags 😂 they get me every time
Eh, I wouldn't really say World War Hulk by itself was much of a war either. Hulk Curbstomps a few people, force the Illuminati to fight in a gladiator fight, then battles the Sentry. Most of what could be called a war was in the tie-in issues.
that gamma bomb kickstarted the careers of Spider-bird, the Incredible Bird, Guardians of the Nest, the Flaptastic Four, and Hawk and Dove... wait.
I like how Kang and Doom are just taking a road trip while the universe gets fucked.
Wooooo! Can't wait for that Tops Barker battle! Dude's been training real hard for this opportunity and I feel his skillset has a good matchup against Heavy Wrex.
I have to admit, I always zone out when the cosmic aspects of Marvel stories really kick in.
Magus reminds me of Phelous' reviews of Galaxy Heroes. He's such a Baltard.
And that voice selection is now part of my headcanon :)
And those gamma pelted birds became yet another Marvel super group, The Flock!
I'll make members and powers later.
It’s sad that A) I could see that happening, and B) I’m disappointed it didn’t.
I feel like the Magus's plan wasn't actually as specific as you make it out to be. Basically boiled down to telling Thanos he was up to something to get him on the path to investigating with Adam and then create enough chaos and shows of power to make them feel like they need the gauntlet so they'll undo the restrictions. Though like you said, the Earth hero stuff is pretty much pointless and only there to make it feel like an event. Just bread crumbing Galactus and Thanos/Adam's group together would have likely been enough to get them to do it.
Thing that bugs me about Events is that they're not internally consistent - as if individual writers were never told the big picture. In CoIE the Flash and The Losers and others just died but Supergirl was erased from continuity. In Millenium some characters had always been Manhunters but others were just replaced by Manhunters.
Hoo boy, Magus sure let himself go after Chrono Trigger.
This comic is probably directly responsible for my love of ridiculously complicated plans.
Thanos could be a waiter, or he could team up with Darkseid and work at McDonalds.
Holy crap, has ATFW really been in business for a decade now? Here's wishing you another decade of success, Louis.
I want an "Omnipotence is Tingly" t-shirt.
So wait a sec.....if Magus is an evil personification/version of Adam Warlock......does that mean this is a case of a male hero "turning villain" where they actually LOST clothing instead of gaining more?
Man is the invisible woman powerful.
Well, you know, since they evolved her from Invisible Girl her defense stats doubled.
I feel like The Thing is the the with the high defense and attack, the Invisible Woman high special defense, Human Torch high Special Attack and Speed, Mister Fantastic high HP, and She-Hulk high HP and Attack.
Man. I LOVED this crossover when it came out in Italy (a year after the US, I think), but watching your review made me realize that... yeah, the plan was needlessly complicated. Still, I really liked the development Ron Lim did with Thanos, and hated the way other writers chose to ignore it to have back the super powerful death worshipper.
My 15yo self, though, really liked the doppelgängers.
Also, it’s a bit strange hearing your pronunciation of Magus’ name: in Italy we’d say it more closely to the Latin pronunciation, I guess. 🧐
In all, an excellent review. You’re talented as usual. :)
Skeletor called, Magus, he wants his outfit back.
Doom wants to join Thanos on his farm.
24:12 wait a second, Earth having a worse snowstorm? My God Marvel's Earth 616 is Shiver Star from Kirby 64!
Sue asking what the duplicate Reed Richards did with her husband REALLY makes me hope that she didn't sleep with him while he was a tentacle monster
Wow, Thanos is amazing in this! I miss old comics and their charm
Stayed up late for this, and I’m glad I did. It’s really awesome you’re doing these episodes we know it’s a lot of effort and we really appreciate it.
I can't help but wonder why the Infinity War movie is called Infinity War, when it's very obvious it's based on Infinity Gauntlet.
shadowspider9 because it sounds better.
shadowspider9 and it's probably going to be even less of a war
Which really begs the question on what the 4th one will be called since we're not doing Parts 1 and 2 anymore. Infinity Gauntlet as the title of the 4th would make sense, but while Infinity Crusade would sound better, it wouldn't make any sense at all.
Same reason they used the title Age of Ultron despite it barely lasting a couple days...
+BaronSengir1008 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought an age was just a specific period of time. I didn't think a necessary amount of time was needed for something to be an 'Age.'
4:38 If you've seen the new Avengers trailer this should probably look familiar to you.
17:00 While I'm no expert in nuclear fusion, fission, or explosions I can explain this sequence.
Erik Masterson is able to send the fallout into space because fallout is just what it sounds like, radioactive dust "falling out" from the bomb, thus it can be swept away by winds. (in fact that is one of the reasons why an atomic bomb is so lethal.)
Though that doesn't change the fact that the fallout is actually MORE lethal in space as is can now go to the oceans, (but you know, what would a METEOROLOGIST know about the WEATHER?!) Or that the wind would do squat to the actual radiation, OR the fact that the blastwave would level an entire city block in a fraction of a second. (But it's a super hero comic so we can cut them some slack on the last one.)
Yeah, the earth heroes were probably inserted in order to lure in some fans of those series, rather than having any importance. You know, sales do matter.
They improved on that in the Annihilation saga and its sequels in the mid 2000s, focusing solely on Marvel Cosmic characters (and a few rando's like Cammi and Jack Flag).
And while this created some of the best events of the past few decades (IMHO), it also made a lot of people skip it. I only went to read it all when the first Guardians movie was announced and immediately felt bad for skipping it when it was originally released.
You and me both. It felt like BMB was thrown onto that comic and had to write it in less than a month, without any knowledge of anything related to Marvel Cosmic.
16:48 well naturally despite Wolverine and DD being excellent at detecting fakes some heroes rose to Ironman and Reed's defense
The heroes served just as much purpose as Kyle Reigners plan, so much purpose served by each and every one, in each and every appearance.
I'm a simple metalhead, I hear Blind Guardian, i hit Like.
not just blind guardian. but one of the best songs ever. and one i wish i was an animator so i could make a video for of 2 armies marching on eachother. and singing the song in tandem
Agreed
40:22 - Whoa! Steve?! As in... The legendary warrior, Sir Steve?! :D
I freaking adore Victor von Doom. I know it will be corny for him to speak about himself in third person, but I so want it
“When the tentacles finish...whatever it is they’re doing.”
Marge: That seemed awfully quick...
Kang: What are you implying?!
Marge: Nothing, nothing...
4:20 You are still using Sacred Worlds! I am not complaining, in fact I am celebrating. It is just surprising.
How is it, that linkara accomplishes to get me way more invested and happy with these little snippets than Dragon Ball Super in all of its running time?
I kinda hope Thanos in the upcoming Avengers movie is this complicated or at least stick around a bit longer.
Gat the Man considering that Avengers 4 is pretty much guaranteed to be a direct follow-up, I don’t think that will be a problem.
Not necessarily the Death stuff, but at some point being this force of cosmic balance. Oh and seeing him being a farmer would be pretty amusing even after everything he did.
CaptainMarvell92 Returns MCU Thanos has never appeared for more than two minutes, it’s hardly an apt comparison.
Okay, this one's somewhat less head-spinny, I appreciate that. And hey, congrats on managing to keep it down to a single episode this time! Though I guess a sequel that happened sooner and had rather less going on would help with that. I agree that the ordinary heroes felt like they were dragged along for the ride, but it was still cool watching them try to figure things out. And Thanos is a surprisingly compelling figure -- a villain redemption arc done right. (Shame to read in the other comments that apparently he reverts to dumb evil in the end. . .) A shame it wasn't done a little better, but hey -- good popcorn flick stuff.
Also, #TeamSteve! I hope you fight him, I want to see what he's like. (Ditto for Pilo, of course.)
11:28: "Not over the wire." Seriously? How old-fashioned is Reed Richards? Is he mentally stuck in the 19th century and thinks the superheroes' big-ass satellite-phone conference call computer is an electrical wire telegraph? Will he be using morse code next? Or semaphore?
I think Magus looked even worse when he had an afro. At least the man bun has some dignity in it's allusions to samurai. I think the fro even appears in this story.
I really cant wait for World War Hulk. On a whim I read the Planet Hulk and World War Hulk storylines a month ago and I loved them so much
Linkara looked so pump for WWH
11:40 where a roo man? Did he move back to Australian? Aw man I liked that guy
So glad you still call them what they really are. Infinity Gems.
Everyone and their mother only calls them Stones because of the movies.
In the movies they ARE stones. In the comics it's the gems - simple as that,.
+Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall
And since marvel for a very longtime love to advertise the movie, they are no call stone in the comics. -_-
:o Linkara replied to my comment! Ohmygosh!!!