I am an ABs fan, but I am happy to see the Wallabies get some wins this year. They are lucky to have Joe as their coach. Such a breath of fresh air compared to Eddie.
If they had had Dave Rennie through to the WC to complete his stint and Joe Schmidt coming in now to take them onto the next phase, they'd be so much better off, but I agree it's great they have Joe in there now and all the best.
@@HatunrumiocRennie has a very poor winning percentage, and that is all people looked at. Their play was getting better all the time under Rennie, and if the players could have played the good patches for 80 minutes consistently, they would have been competitive with the best test teams by now. Well, Aussie got their just desserts changing to unsteady Eddie 😅. They only got Schmidt because of the way NZR treated Fozzie at the end.
@@Hatunrumiocnah, Rennie wasted 3 years without any real plan to develop players. Joe is starting from scratch due to both Eddie’s and Rennie’s failures
Kiwi here. All three coaches have big selection and tactics decisions ahead of the RC starting on Aug 10. Plus throw in Los Pumas who are coming into form. Will be a delicious series.
ABs looking good with some great new players coming into the game, George Bell and Billy Proctor both scoring tries on debut. Gives Razor a lot of depth to work with. My money is on them this year!
As a Bok fan for me in the forwards Ben Jason Dixon will be the next forward to come through. Think also Cameron Hanekom will be in with a shout. I'm more certain about the backs. Sacha Feinburg Mgomezulu and Grant Williams are already getting opportunities. I think Apelele Fassi is unlucky not to be getting more game time and could be a backup option at fullback. And last but certainly not least, the almost forgotten man Canan Moodie.
Razor will be quietly impressed with where he is now.. he is identifying players who have the talent and ability to take the next step, particularly at 9 and 13. With very strong competition in the front row/ forwards he has a strong foundation to build on.
Ireland will have given the ABs confidence of getting an away win in SA and NZs games were a good challenge to get the new team and coaches bedded in, but not too much, so its debatable really.
@@chrislenferna4384And how would a 'dry ball' in Capetown be a disadvantage to the All blacks? We've played 10 matches at Capetown and won 7..As far as your 'hallowed' Ellis park is concerned,we've won 6 of the 15 games played there..
As far as the All Blacks go I"d like to see them sort out the receiving of the kick off, better positional kicking, more challenging box kicks when they do them. All easy fixes and I would expect to see much improvement in their next outing in these areas. But overall happy enough with the first 3 games of the year, I'd say by the end of the championship this team may just be a force to be reckoned with and more of the new coaches influence will be shinning through. Just have to give them a little time to fully click with the new game plan Razor and co are tying to implement.
Before we talk about new Boks taking over from the incumbents, I'd like to see this young team against Argentina or the Wallabies away. Keep in mind that Sacha was playing behind a pack that dominated. How will he in a test against a more formidable pack and better organised defence?
SA has a radically new attack pattern. The big question is can they move to this faster ball in hand rugby without compromising their defence. They are also struggling to find a new 8
The debth of the Springboks is unparalleled. Players injured or on suspension is Damien Willemse, Canan Moody, Edwil van Der Merwe, Andre Esterhuizen, Henco van Wyk, Faf de Klerk, Jaden Hendricks, Hershel Jantjies, Cameron Hanekom, Jasper Wiese, Franco Mosterd, Lood de Jager, Jean Kleyn, Steven Kitshoff and Malcolm Marx (still 4 weeks) ..... Despite these injuries etc they will be more than competative and bringing in new pictures to the opposition on attack via TB. Going to be a great RC.
Why is Arentina not mentioned here? I feel that they can beat any of these 3 teams if they click. they also have a new coach and some good young players. they played a young French team and lost the first test, but it is what they did after that, that was impressive. I would take anything for granted against them. the Aussies still has to be tested, so the verdict on them is still open, and do not know if Joe Smidth got all his answers from the games they have played. The AB's will be happy, but again do they have more questions than answers. Some of their positions they are stacked, but they might have some issues in the locking department. They also need to find the right loosy combination, as some of the new faces were underwhelming. At least they have Ardie there. Same with the Springboks. They need to pick the best combinations for the right game plan. There are some tough selection decisions to be made, but what we do know is that the depth of SA rugby is good. And they need to improve their discipline and staying patient on the 25 entries, to get points when they are on attack.
ABs are looking good I think. Long term battle at halfback will be Roigaard v Ratima, similar players, both v good. With Jordan back the backline selections will be more obvious (once they’re willing to move past Ioane, reliable as he is.) Big question is whether DMac can continue to improve as an international 10. Lock is the only spot where there’s an actual shortage of talent as opposed to selection uncertainty- hopefully Darry can step up.
Roigaard and Ratima are not similar players. Roigaard is a much more robust player and runner. Ratima has better pass and is quicker, but whilst he has good power to weight, he is not nearly as strong as Roigaard.
South Africa have got to make some tough decisions. Are they happy with the blunt attack of their main, aging, Team? Or do they make changes? Pollard is played with a playmaker at 15, Why not play Manie with a Kicker at 15?
I am sure, SA springbok management and coaching has proven themselves. Handing over the baton is a process. You need more than youth and talent to go the long haul. This is something corporates and governments can learn from the Springboks. Sometimes you concede a battle to win a war.
springboks have a lot of depth in all players but some selections is costing game play, attack, defense, and some do not gel.they keep on with same players who does not perform nor the best at that position but are in because of they were WC players but performance wise have taken a slump/dip. AUS is building on a new squad and is exciting to watch,love their way of play. AB is still better at breakdown and defense but attack is not 100 percent. AB are scary when they find their mojo. ARG is 50/50 and can upset all 3 opponents. All in all this championship is going to show each team biggest flaw as well as produce some awesome rugby.
I feel like people need to understand that the Southerm Hemisphere haven't played many games for thier attack to be where it needs to be. Where as the North have played a whole 6 nations tournament to fine tune their skills a bit more. Talk again about who's attack needs more attention once the rugby Championship is over
I'd say Australia will be happiest. The Boks fans are probably a little miffed they lost to Ireland at home. ABs fans always expect to win and didn't beat England comfortably enough (at least for my taste). But Australia was in shambles and are definitely looking a lot better than they were under the previous regime.
@@phillipmiga3961 The video is about what we've learned and who's happiest after this series. So what exactly are you going on about? At least try to keep up. Are you trying to tell me that Boks fans were happier after they lost to Ireland than before?
Wobblies are mud...they just haven't played anyone yet. Boks dropped a game at home they shouldn't have. ABs weaknesses exposed without copping a loss, they'll be happiest.
@@jormundgandr88 loser wobblies fans should never speak of rugby ever again. Boks fans should go outside and reach a young Saffa kid to read and write, take them some clean drinking water and something to eat.
@@jormundgandr88 Wobblies fans should never speak of Rugby until they can make it out of pool play. Boks fans should go outside and teach a young Saffa to read and write, take them some clean drinking water and some food.
Definitely on the springboks, the conversion from 22 entries is not where it should be. Plenty of room for improvement. On the AB’s , I think they would have won those matches even if they didn’t have a coach. The matches with England felt like I was watching super rugby.
@@VKM33 , that’s not what I meant. What I meant is that it was the usual all blacks play, where they try to run teams out of the ground. Hence the Super rugby comment.
Simple. South Africa must stop throwing themselves into the wall all the time . Teams now have the strategy to counter attack and stop been ru over. They lose more balls doing that. They have to break the defense by flanking side to side then center to go through.
RG (4), Eben (5), Wiese (6), PS du Toit (7), Roos(8), Williams(9), Pollard (10), Dealende (12), Amm(13), Sasha(15) If we can end up with something like this and a 7-1 split with Kolisi, ben dixon, kwagga, moerat, moody or faf coming up as the 💣 bomb. We'd be OK.
I think NZ might be happier there is some really exciting stuff happening there. I’m not sure about SA they had another player banned for 4 years yesterday for drug taking 2 in 8 months. They were in breach of WADA compliance and were only allowed to play their National anthem and raise their flag last minute QF against France, only on appeal. Why would an international team not be in compliance with the world drugs board “very suspicious “ looking at how many of them were injured after the second test with injuries they shouldn’t have been able to carry on playing with is also a bit dubious.
1.The breach was because our country’s laws with regards to doping and testing were not up to date . 2 months ago the president signed the amendment act into law 2. The news of Sbu Nkosi only broke yesterday . We are still yet to understand what happened but also he has been away from the side since the 2021 season You need a better argument than “the Africans are juicing” Do better
@@reabetswekhiba7551 this is not something that has happened today or yesterday and there is no reason any country should be in breach of WADA laws, you can paint this how you like but two prominent players being caught within a short period of time, well lets say its just WADA got lucky and caught the only ones taking drugs. Or maybe the sky will fall in tomorrow. Covering or trying to cover up will not make this go away , it’s your own players that is tarnishing rugby in SA not anyone else.
Tarnishing rugby in SA?😂😂😂 Alright you definitely don’t know what you’re talking about Rugby is the most successful sport in the country ,we have an incredible system from primary school all the way to the elite level . Both boys and girls We have all over 700 rugby players playing in SA alone and over 350 in Europe A country with FOUR world cups , a country that has had a team in all 3 of the URC finals Since Covid , SARU have generated billions, TV deals and viewership numbers are through the roof.. elite level rugby players are earning millions and are on every other billboard and ads you see on TV, Chasing The Sun is regarded as the best rugby documentary every . The Boks and derbies(Bulls v Stormers. Sharks v Stormers) are filling out stadiums . So tell me . Which players have tarnished rugby in SA?
Not a chance, the Boks should comfortably win the Aussies test and should atleast win the first All blacks game at Ellis Park, and the both Argentina games. The Springboks have a good chance to win the RC this year actually.
Say you don't watch rugby without saying you don't watch rugby. "Never have" haha I take it you've only been watching the Boks for the last 15 years and not prior. Based on the last 15 years you're right, luckily they are in a transition with their attacking rugby and bringing that back.
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I am an ABs fan, but I am happy to see the Wallabies get some wins this year. They are lucky to have Joe as their coach. Such a breath of fresh air compared to Eddie.
If they had had Dave Rennie through to the WC to complete his stint and Joe Schmidt coming in now to take them onto the next phase, they'd be so much better off, but I agree it's great they have Joe in there now and all the best.
'Fresh' as opposed to 'hot'.
@@HatunrumiocRennie has a very poor winning percentage, and that is all people looked at. Their play was getting better all the time under Rennie, and if the players could have played the good patches for 80 minutes consistently, they would have been competitive with the best test teams by now. Well, Aussie got their just desserts changing to unsteady Eddie 😅. They only got Schmidt because of the way NZR treated Fozzie at the end.
Australia will be ready for their World Cup
@@Hatunrumiocnah, Rennie wasted 3 years without any real plan to develop players. Joe is starting from scratch due to both Eddie’s and Rennie’s failures
Kiwi here. All three coaches have big selection and tactics decisions ahead of the RC starting on Aug 10. Plus throw in Los Pumas who are coming into form. Will be a delicious series.
With ratima found, sititi found, perofeta and proctor, darry all great.
With will jordan and can roigard returning. Super squad.
Ben Jason Dixon was immense!!! He has a huge engine on him
ABs looking good with some great new players coming into the game, George Bell and Billy Proctor both scoring tries on debut. Gives Razor a lot of depth to work with. My money is on them this year!
All 4 teams look impressive. It's going to be a great year for the Champions Cup. Love all 4 teams, but SA are my boys!
As a Bok fan for me in the forwards Ben Jason Dixon will be the next forward to come through. Think also Cameron Hanekom will be in with a shout. I'm more certain about the backs. Sacha Feinburg Mgomezulu and Grant Williams are already getting opportunities. I think Apelele Fassi is unlucky not to be getting more game time and could be a backup option at fullback. And last but certainly not least, the almost forgotten man Canan Moodie.
Razor will be quietly impressed with where he is now.. he is identifying players who have the talent and ability to take the next step, particularly at 9 and 13. With very strong competition in the front row/ forwards he has a strong foundation to build on.
I love that word improve when it's said
Who has had the best prep for the Rugby Championship out of the 3? I think the boks had the tougher prep
Ireland will have given the ABs confidence of getting an away win in SA and NZs games were a good challenge to get the new team and coaches bedded in, but not too much, so its debatable really.
I dont know how good Ireland are
@@Hatunrumiocnot a chance the home games are Ellis Park and Cape Town where the Boks have allitude advantage and no wet ball in Cape town
@@chrislenferna4384And how would a 'dry ball' in Capetown be a disadvantage to the All blacks? We've played 10 matches at Capetown and won 7..As far as your 'hallowed' Ellis park is concerned,we've won 6 of the 15 games played there..
As far as the All Blacks go I"d like to see them sort out the receiving of the kick off, better positional kicking, more challenging box kicks when they do them. All easy fixes and I would expect to see much improvement in their next outing in these areas. But overall happy enough with the first 3 games of the year, I'd say by the end of the championship this team may just be a force to be reckoned with and more of the new coaches influence will be shinning through. Just have to give them a little time to fully click with the new game plan Razor and co are tying to implement.
The ABs are coming along nicely. A few areas to improve, but all in all they're heading in the right direction.
Before we talk about new Boks taking over from the incumbents, I'd like to see this young team against Argentina or the Wallabies away. Keep in mind that Sacha was playing behind a pack that dominated. How will he in a test against a more formidable pack and better organised defence?
My good sir, you got me wondering too. Why not take a chance on them!
SA has a radically new attack pattern. The big question is can they move to this faster ball in hand rugby without compromising their defence.
They are also struggling to find a new 8
All blacks have huge stocks right now all the debutants were awesome. Flooded. Stacked now.
Mate agreed
The debth of the Springboks is unparalleled.
Players injured or on suspension is Damien Willemse, Canan Moody, Edwil van Der Merwe, Andre Esterhuizen, Henco van Wyk, Faf de Klerk, Jaden Hendricks, Hershel Jantjies, Cameron Hanekom, Jasper Wiese, Franco Mosterd, Lood de Jager, Jean Kleyn, Steven Kitshoff and Malcolm Marx (still 4 weeks) ..... Despite these injuries etc they will be more than competative and bringing in new pictures to the opposition on attack via TB.
Going to be a great RC.
Good one
Why is Arentina not mentioned here? I feel that they can beat any of these 3 teams if they click. they also have a new coach and some good young players.
they played a young French team and lost the first test, but it is what they did after that, that was impressive. I would take anything for granted against them.
the Aussies still has to be tested, so the verdict on them is still open, and do not know if Joe Smidth got all his answers from the games they have played.
The AB's will be happy, but again do they have more questions than answers. Some of their positions they are stacked, but they might have some issues in the locking department. They also need to find the right loosy combination, as some of the new faces were underwhelming. At least they have Ardie there.
Same with the Springboks. They need to pick the best combinations for the right game plan. There are some tough selection decisions to be made, but what we do know is that the depth of SA rugby is good. And they need to improve their discipline and staying patient on the 25 entries, to get points when they are on attack.
ABs are looking good I think. Long term battle at halfback will be Roigaard v Ratima, similar players, both v good. With Jordan back the backline selections will be more obvious (once they’re willing to move past Ioane, reliable as he is.) Big question is whether DMac can continue to improve as an international 10. Lock is the only spot where there’s an actual shortage of talent as opposed to selection uncertainty- hopefully Darry can step up.
Roigaard and Ratima are not similar players. Roigaard is a much more robust player and runner. Ratima has better pass and is quicker, but whilst he has good power to weight, he is not nearly as strong as Roigaard.
South Africa have got to make some tough decisions. Are they happy with the blunt attack of their main, aging, Team? Or do they make changes? Pollard is played with a playmaker at 15, Why not play Manie with a Kicker at 15?
I am sure, SA springbok management and coaching has proven themselves. Handing over the baton is a process. You need more than youth and talent to go the long haul. This is something corporates and governments can learn from the Springboks. Sometimes you concede a battle to win a war.
Play Manie at 15, and what about DW if he comes back from injury ?
Manie is history..cant kick at all ..Sacha replaces him....they wont do a elton jantjies nonsense again..
springboks have a lot of depth in all players but some selections is costing game play, attack, defense, and some do not gel.they keep on with same players who does not perform nor the best at that position but are in because of they were WC players but performance wise have taken a slump/dip. AUS is building on a new squad and is exciting to watch,love their way of play. AB is still better at breakdown and defense but attack is not 100 percent. AB are scary when they find their mojo. ARG is 50/50 and can upset all 3 opponents. All in all this championship is going to show each team biggest flaw as well as produce some awesome rugby.
I feel like people need to understand that the Southerm Hemisphere haven't played many games for thier attack to be where it needs to be. Where as the North have played a whole 6 nations tournament to fine tune their skills a bit more. Talk again about who's attack needs more attention once the rugby Championship is over
I'd say Australia will be happiest. The Boks fans are probably a little miffed they lost to Ireland at home. ABs fans always expect to win and didn't beat England comfortably enough (at least for my taste). But Australia was in shambles and are definitely looking a lot better than they were under the previous regime.
It was against Ireland bro second best in world, the all black still have scars of Ireland beating them twice in new Zealand
@phillipmiga3961 while it hurt at the time, I'd say it'd be Ireland who bares more scars after the wc.
@@phillipmiga3961 The video is about what we've learned and who's happiest after this series. So what exactly are you going on about? At least try to keep up. Are you trying to tell me that Boks fans were happier after they lost to Ireland than before?
ABs need to get better at exits. They can’t stay camped around their 22 all game. Not sure why they’re not utilising the boot of Jordie more there tbh
Dmac needs time
Yup. Also need to learn to receive the ball from kick offs under pressure. Or just successfully receive the ball…
@@Edgycoohe has been a All Black since 2016 how much time does he need
@@Desmondo58 5 games exactly.
@@Desmondo58 yep but he's started very few games, he hasn't been given any consistency and been handed the reins at any point in that time.
Im very disappointed in our series loss to Ireland 😢
Wobblies are mud...they just haven't played anyone yet.
Boks dropped a game at home they shouldn't have.
ABs weaknesses exposed without copping a loss, they'll be happiest.
You're a kiwi, your opinions are next to worthless
100% agree
@@itistrue101 kiwi detected Opinion rejected
@@jormundgandr88 loser wobblies fans should never speak of rugby ever again.
Boks fans should go outside and reach a young Saffa kid to read and write, take them some
clean drinking water and something to eat.
@@jormundgandr88 Wobblies fans should never speak of Rugby until they can make it out of pool play.
Boks fans should go outside and teach a young Saffa to read and write, take them some clean drinking water and some food.
Definitely on the springboks, the conversion from 22 entries is not where it should be. Plenty of room for improvement.
On the AB’s , I think they would have won those matches even if they didn’t have a coach. The matches with England felt like I was watching super rugby.
So you don’t need a coach to defeat england?
@@VKM33 , that’s not what I meant. What I meant is that it was the usual all blacks play, where they try to run teams out of the ground. Hence the Super rugby comment.
@@VKM33 Thats what he said. Seems to have backed out of it though.
Argentina: am I a joke to you?😂
Alfred, SA won their first two world cups without scoring a single try in their final matches.
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Don't understate how good Fiji are.They beat England fairly recently.
I’d agree the Aussies should be the happiest when you weigh up how rock bottom they were
Simple. South Africa must stop throwing themselves into the wall all the time . Teams now have the strategy to counter attack and stop been ru over. They lose more balls doing that. They have to break the defense by flanking side to side then center to go through.
Australia would be happiest, from where and who they come from. But their true test will come with that Bok forward pack.
RG (4), Eben (5), Wiese (6), PS du Toit (7), Roos(8), Williams(9), Pollard (10), Dealende (12), Amm(13), Sasha(15)
If we can end up with something like this and a 7-1 split with Kolisi, ben dixon, kwagga, moerat, moody or faf coming up as the 💣 bomb. We'd be OK.
Boks attack the best. Di not agree with you with respek. Mostly youg players who will be mature for next w cup
Im not sure boks attack is better than abs. Dmac, jordie, Clarke, will jordan, sevu, perofeta, beauden, pretty hard to beat
Sorry to say, but SA kind of were lucky to win RWC.
Yes we were no shame in that
Luck increases the harder u work 😂
Interesting. The more you practice the luckier you get. Works for me in golf....
@gerhardmeyer8891 😂 that's what I'm saying people always have something to say it's always something
Sorry to say you guys were lucky to win both tests against England. Should have lost both.
I think NZ might be happier there is some really exciting stuff happening there. I’m not sure about SA they had another player banned for 4 years yesterday for drug taking 2 in 8 months. They were in breach of WADA compliance and were only allowed to play their National anthem and raise their flag last minute QF against France, only on appeal. Why would an international team not be in compliance with the world drugs board “very suspicious “ looking at how many of them were injured after the second test with injuries they shouldn’t have been able to carry on playing with is also a bit dubious.
1.The breach was because our country’s laws with regards to doping and testing were not up to date .
2 months ago the president signed the amendment act into law
2. The news of Sbu Nkosi only broke yesterday . We are still yet to understand what happened but also he has been away from the side since the 2021 season
You need a better argument than “the Africans are juicing”
Do better
@@reabetswekhiba7551 this is not something that has happened today or yesterday and there is no reason any country should be in breach of WADA laws, you can paint this how you like but two prominent players being caught within a short period of time, well lets say its just WADA got lucky and caught the only ones taking drugs. Or maybe the sky will fall in tomorrow. Covering or trying to cover up will not make this go away , it’s your own players that is tarnishing rugby in SA not anyone else.
😂We don't even pay attention to ppl like u
Tarnishing rugby in SA?😂😂😂
Alright you definitely don’t know what you’re talking about
Rugby is the most successful sport in the country ,we have an incredible system from primary school all the way to the elite level . Both boys and girls
We have all over 700 rugby players playing in SA alone and over 350 in Europe
A country with FOUR world cups , a country that has had a team in all 3 of the URC finals
Since Covid , SARU have generated billions, TV deals and viewership numbers are through the roof.. elite level rugby players are earning millions and are on every other billboard and ads you see on TV, Chasing The Sun is regarded as the best rugby documentary every . The Boks and derbies(Bulls v Stormers. Sharks v Stormers) are filling out stadiums .
So tell me . Which players have tarnished rugby in SA?
This “the Boks are juicing” talk is piss old and lame!
Do better
All I know is that the Boks is on a down-ward's Spirall.Tha ABs is going to hammer the Boks.And a good change a lost to Australia too!!!!
Are you on drugs bro
Boks are in experimental mode like always so we can prep for the future
The only spiral us Boks have is the spiral kick
As an AB’s fan, are you trolling? Hope so, otherwise - seek help.
Not a chance, the Boks should comfortably win the Aussies test and should atleast win the first All blacks game at Ellis Park, and the both Argentina games.
The Springboks have a good chance to win the RC this year actually.
SA don’t have an attack. Never have 👍
But still the no 1 in the world. Thats what count. Inbetween not inportant at all
Say you don't watch rugby without saying you don't watch rugby. "Never have" haha I take it you've only been watching the Boks for the last 15 years and not prior. Based on the last 15 years you're right, luckily they are in a transition with their attacking rugby and bringing that back.
@@danemyburgh thanks to tony brown (kiwi and ex All black)
@@tasiletoa1037 I'm a kiwi, I know very well who Tony Brown is 👍
This guy is too scared of offending - and ends up saying next to nothing.