the Boks simply never underestimate the AB's. There'll be no over confidence. Boks probably prefer underdog status so this is a change. It's a new style of play and a new 4 year cycle heading to the next WC. Experiments and work in progress to find lasting combinations looking ahead. I'm guessing the AB's will have a few curveballs for the Boks to deal with, no doubt Rassie has a few of his own. But who really minds all the fiddly stuff, c'mon - AB's vs Boks at Ellis Park - it's a doozy ! THE doozy !!
The aspect to me that people are not really commenting on is that the SA selection is less settled than the ABs. They chose to rotate against Australia which builds depth, but doesn’t make their patterns of play that consistent. NZ have struggled with a locking crisis - essentially, the root of their own inconsistency in tests so far - but with Scott Barrett coming back and Vaa’i and Darry starting to step up I feel they are making progress there. It may be unpopular, but I think the ABs are well set for an upset and Ellis Park has been a relatively happy hunting ground for them in recent years.
As a Bok fan I cannot wait. These AB tests are always the highlight of my year. I have not missed a SINGLE SA/NZ test since 1995, no matter where I have been in the world at the time. Buddy of mine from Aus is flying over to visit us where we live in Europe and arrives a few hours before kickoff - it’ll be braai time come Saturday, and hopefully my Aussie mate will get to see what two real rugby teams look like! May the best team win, and respect as always for our ultimate rivals NZ. Welcome to Ellis Park brothers!
Bokke win both tests!! One with a bonus point.....being confident,why not!!!!😊👍 **** Again as "ALL" say we just lucky...3 times!!! So we lucky,stay that way!!!🤗🤗🙏🙌
thats why you will lose. Because you are confident. Got to remember, two wins over australia really is no reason to be confident. They are ranked below italy lol. 1-1 vs ireland...........the all blacks are coming
@@zwet4269 those two wins under rassie took us to 5-5 under rassies management. With our new coach and our from row, tamighty, cody, lomax, im certainly not worried there. I was, truth be told, worried about your locks. But now they are out. So that cleared that up. With will jordan our backs are complete. Ready to rumble. See you in a few days bruh
As a kiwi. We will come right but right now Bokke are on another level and will be a touhh contest. Heart says Abs but mind says Bokkes will win both. Anyway good luck to both and fans alike, enjou the game,much reapect 🫡
I’m very nervous as a Kiwi. We are lacking tall timber in the loose forwards. Those SAFFAs are monsters and we have got line-out problems. We don’t have enough players over 2 metres. However I’m hoping we can flatten them in the rucks and mauls. Be brutal in competition but gracious in losing. Go ABs
Very possible. It's always possible but slightly more so this weekend as the Boks seem to have a lock problem of note. AB's also have one but less so if Etsebeth is out. Scott Barrett is on par with Etsebeth and Eben out and Scott playing might just create an opening. It may give the AB's some dominance. Which they can put to pretty good use on a firm pitch like Ellispark.
Leon was the attack coach for the All Blacks not the defense coach. Can't wait for the game it should be epic, watching these two teams play each other to me is the holy grail of rugby matches as they have such a great history with each other.
Bok fan here. I’m confident the Boks could win, but at the same time I wouldn’t be surprised if the All Blacks won. I think we have a rare opportunity beat the All Blacks well. We look good, and the All Blacks have had some up and down results. We have altitude and a crowd behind us at Elis Park and we won’t get a much better chance of beating the all blacks than this. So we have to take the chance. It’s important for the Boks to win and win well, so that there can be no doubt that they are truly the best team in the world and worthy champions.
A Bok supporter here… always nervous when up against the AB’s but always back the Boks! I’m not sure Leon M’s departure will disrupt the AB’s much, if at all. They’re too professional for that. Hopefully this is a time for the Boks to steady that recent win:loss ratio at their home grounds. Come on Bokke! 🙌
Yes the right decision by both men no disruption before the SA leg and ill call it the Abs are looking forward to the challenge by the world Champions. Let's go
NZ will be hungry to get back to the perch of world rugby and SA will be hoping to get to their best as you said, so its gna be a fascinating game and tough to call a winner. Go bokke!
The AB's forwards have to really continue forwarding again this week and DMac needs to continue to play smart rugby like he did against the Pumas. If the AB's get one win, then that's a win for the team moving forward.
NZL have 20 titles vs SA with 4. This is best chance with a new AB team for SA to win the title. However SA have a long way to go to get anywhere near the record of the ABs. Will be a mighty few matches. Can’t wait!
I'm a Boks supporter, however there is no favorites tag when these rugby giants meet. Everything will come down to the accuracy of the out of hand kicking from 9 & 10 (Reinach & Sasha).
With a full squad it wouldn't surprise me if the Boks had a slight advantage at Ellis park, however the Boks missing their best 6 locks due to injuries so it might be a weakness with just Ruan Nortjé / van Rensburg and probably unfortunately won't have PSDT at flank as he'll be moved to lock at some stage. It's a 50/50 and with NZ bringing in the heavy weights we might see the Boks trying to run the ABs off their feet for a change.
I think this game is going to be epic. I dont even mind who wins. My concerns, if the Bokke loose there will be people who moan about the injuries. If the AB’s loose, there will be people who moan about Leon McDonald. Let up hope that I am wrong…..
WIth the squad announced without Eben and RG and Willie, I will settle for a draw in Jhb and go for a win in CT with some re-enforcements hopefully available
how do I feel leading up to the Ellis Park test...? ..calm and cool I think the new crop of players in the ABs have to prove that they are there for a reason...they can stamp their emerging greatness on world rugby and go on to be the next Whitelock or Kaino etc... so...I know ...have no doubts ..the new players are destined for a long time at the top of a winning team....I am not into analysing individual players pros and cons...thats a job for JK and Pod people however its easy enough to make a call before a big game... my score is ...ABs 28 ...Boks 23
Will be decided who is stronger in the back field i think. If NZ don't do a good job under the highball.. kolbe and Arendse will skin us. If they dont exit well it opens up SAs power game. On the otherside i think if the ABs can kick well and make them contestable they can pressure a small back 3. I Also think the ABs may be able to attack SA defensive lineout ball.
I think Leon leaving is a good move if it's not working. Nothing positive can come from him hanging around longer if it's been determined that he's not a good fit. They have another 17 coaches in the ABs line up so they should be fine.
Jeez, which other team on the planet can play a fourth string lock combo against the ABs? Out due to injury: Jean Klein RG Snyman Lood Mosterd Eben Etsebeth Salman Moerat.... The possible starting locks will have 3 caps between them.. This effects the Bomb squad etc!
Part of a coaches job is looking after players. It is only SA to blame since they choose to have their players playing both Northern and Southern hemisphere rugby, rather than rest players. End of day, each team puts on best 23 they can. Pretty simple! Hope SA, should they lose, don’t use excuse of injuries
Boks are RWC champs and best team in the world. Suggest you start wearing and owning that favourite tag. ABs are underdogs with new team…they have nothing to lose now and all to gain
Yeah, if the Boks really want to win 2 on the bounce against the All Blacks, never a better chance than the next 2 games. But you really can never write the All Blacks off.
Why a shock ..NZ has won 5 of the last 6 games at Ellispark... Last time these 2 met , only a missed penalty goal cost NZ the match playing I might add with 14 men ...Sorry Alf ...No shock at all.Not even a mild surprise..
Yes, but will it be a real shock? Don't think so. They beat each other fairly regularly lately. The equalizer may be the new coach and loss of some experience for the ABs vs the overrated Boks. Mouth-watering clash incoming!
Never in my life have I seen a more overrated coach than Scott Robertson. Dude won a water d down super rugby a couple of times and he was seen as the kiwi messiah. How much did that help during that record loss to argentina at home? Another Record score incoming. 47-17 for the boks. You get a couple of lucky tries in the last 10. 😂😂
@@Konst_Abel Razor has a reputation as a super rugby coach, nothing else. Not yet. He still needs to prove himself at international level, obviously. His track record is not dissimilar to Rassie when he took over. So he might turn out the NZ messiah, he might not Expectations are that he may well do it. The proof in the pudding will be in the eating, as the saying goes. Good luck to the Boks, but this is an inspiring team selection. Which probably is more due to injuries and is blurred by common sense. But I am in no position to tell an international world cup wining coach what to do.
@@2msystems740 Rassie took over the worst period in bok rugby history. His early losses can be understood with some context. Hardly comparable to a guy who took over a team that lost the world cup final by a single point. Building on success is easy. Building from scratch is hard.
all blacks pack will be 30kg heavier than the boks. Statement coming up. No team in this day and age should take so much confidence from beating australia twice. They are ranked below italy. so the boks are 1-1 vs ireland. Its a hell of a lot of confidence to have from two aussie wins. Imagine two losses vs the abs. That would now be 2 nil to the abs 1-1 vs ireland a lowly two wins over aussie. That completely changes the face of this bok season. Imagine if the all blacks too a massive amount of hype out of their fiji game.....that would never happen, its fiji......but then again, aussie is only just ranked above fiji. I will say the reverse is true, a double loss to the boks and the abs are dead in the water. If it goes 1-1, ill be a little disappointed. I would prefer to actually see a bit of a smack down. Cant wait
@@ThomasMarchant-c1y fun fact, the boks have lost to Argentina 3 times also. Abs only just caught up now. 3. Just last week. But we haven't ever lost to Japan lololololol.
@@Edgycoofun fact AB"s struggled against England and were lucky to win the first test, Argentina put them underpressure and the cracks quickly showed going down by 8 points, bad weather conditions and Argentina's history of not turning up the week after a big win played nicely into AB'S hands, Argentina never showed up in that game, and even so the AB's fell back into a lul in the second half when weather conditions improved, only scoring 7 points after 35 point lead in the first half, we can sit and cherry pick all day, the fact is South Africa had two tests against the number 2 side in the world, and did quiet well, the All Black haven't been tested at that level yet, the Springboks will be their acid tests
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the Boks simply never underestimate the AB's. There'll be no over confidence. Boks probably prefer underdog status so this is a change. It's a new style of play and a new 4 year cycle heading to the next WC. Experiments and work in progress to find lasting combinations looking ahead. I'm guessing the AB's will have a few curveballs for the Boks to deal with, no doubt Rassie has a few of his own. But who really minds all the fiddly stuff, c'mon - AB's vs Boks at Ellis Park - it's a doozy ! THE doozy !!
The aspect to me that people are not really commenting on is that the SA selection is less settled than the ABs. They chose to rotate against Australia which builds depth, but doesn’t make their patterns of play that consistent. NZ have struggled with a locking crisis - essentially, the root of their own inconsistency in tests so far - but with Scott Barrett coming back and Vaa’i and Darry starting to step up I feel they are making progress there. It may be unpopular, but I think the ABs are well set for an upset and Ellis Park has been a relatively happy hunting ground for them in recent years.
Last 11 fixtures between these two teams. Played 11, SA won 5, NZ won 5, and a draw.
I wouldn’t be shocked no matter which side wins this weekend.
As a Bok fan I cannot wait. These AB tests are always the highlight of my year. I have not missed a SINGLE SA/NZ test since 1995, no matter where I have been in the world at the time. Buddy of mine from Aus is flying over to visit us where we live in Europe and arrives a few hours before kickoff - it’ll be braai time come Saturday, and hopefully my Aussie mate will get to see what two real rugby teams look like! May the best team win, and respect as always for our ultimate rivals NZ. Welcome to Ellis Park brothers!
Bokke win both tests!! One with a bonus point.....being confident,why not!!!!😊👍 **** Again as "ALL" say we just lucky...3 times!!! So we lucky,stay that way!!!🤗🤗🙏🙌
The problem with SA, we play better when we are underdogs. As soon as we're seen as overwhelming favourites, we tend to lose. But I'm fully confident
thats why you will lose. Because you are confident. Got to remember, two wins over australia really is no reason to be confident. They are ranked below italy lol. 1-1 vs ireland...........the all blacks are coming
@@Edgycoo last 2 matches between All Blacks and SA, we won. That's why I'm confident.
@@zwet4269 those two wins under rassie took us to 5-5 under rassies management. With our new coach and our from row, tamighty, cody, lomax, im certainly not worried there. I was, truth be told, worried about your locks. But now they are out. So that cleared that up. With will jordan our backs are complete. Ready to rumble. See you in a few days bruh
We seem to turn confidence into arrogance and it all goes to ….
@@lukeboshier thats what ireland did
Springboks fan, quietly confident 😊
As a kiwi. We will come right but right now Bokke are on another level and will be a touhh contest. Heart says Abs but mind says Bokkes will win both.
Anyway good luck to both and fans alike, enjou the game,much reapect 🫡
They absolutely could! Although I don’t know if a loss to the ABs can really be considered a shock
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Your assessment is spot on. Can’t help agreeing with everything you’ve said. Nice work
I’m very nervous as a Kiwi. We are lacking tall timber in the loose forwards. Those SAFFAs are monsters and we have got line-out problems. We don’t have enough players over 2 metres. However I’m hoping we can flatten them in the rucks and mauls. Be brutal in competition but gracious in losing. Go ABs
Very possible. It's always possible but slightly more so this weekend as the Boks seem to have a lock problem of note. AB's also have one but less so if Etsebeth is out. Scott Barrett is on par with Etsebeth and Eben out and Scott playing might just create an opening. It may give the AB's some dominance. Which they can put to pretty good use on a firm pitch like Ellispark.
Leon was the attack coach for the All Blacks not the defense coach. Can't wait for the game it should be epic, watching these two teams play each other to me is the holy grail of rugby matches as they have such a great history with each other.
Bok fan here. I’m confident the Boks could win, but at the same time I wouldn’t be surprised if the All Blacks won.
I think we have a rare opportunity beat the All Blacks well. We look good, and the All Blacks have had some up and down results. We have altitude and a crowd behind us at Elis Park and we won’t get a much better chance of beating the all blacks than this. So we have to take the chance.
It’s important for the Boks to win and win well, so that there can be no doubt that they are truly the best team in the world and worthy champions.
A Bok supporter here… always nervous when up against the AB’s but always back the Boks! I’m not sure Leon M’s departure will disrupt the AB’s much, if at all. They’re too professional for that. Hopefully this is a time for the Boks to steady that recent win:loss ratio at their home grounds. Come on Bokke! 🙌
Always exciting, always unnerving when the Boks play the AB's...still...calling a Bok win, but not a blowout. AB's will always be a great team.
Im predicting 1 all. No shocks or surprises just the big boys going hard. No cards or controversial calls PLEASE!!!
Yes the right decision by both men no disruption before the SA leg and ill call it the Abs are looking forward to the challenge by the world Champions. Let's go
NZ will be hungry to get back to the perch of world rugby and SA will be hoping to get to their best as you said, so its gna be a fascinating game and tough to call a winner. Go bokke!
These teams can play each other anywhere in the world and the result could go either way. The rivalry often overrides form.
The AB's forwards have to really continue forwarding again this week and DMac needs to continue to play smart rugby like he did against the Pumas.
If the AB's get one win, then that's a win for the team moving forward.
Maybe Tony Brown would like to come home now that there's an opening for him? 😂
By the way good call on PSDT and Nortje ..We now know the squad and that's the 2nd row ..Bigger surprise..No replacement lock on the bench ..
NZL have 20 titles vs SA with 4. This is best chance with a new AB team for SA to win the title. However SA have a long way to go to get anywhere near the record of the ABs. Will be a mighty few matches. Can’t wait!
Definitely nervous, AB's / Boks always makes me nervous
I'm a Boks supporter, however there is no favorites tag when these rugby giants meet. Everything will come down to the accuracy of the out of hand kicking from 9 & 10 (Reinach & Sasha).
With a full squad it wouldn't surprise me if the Boks had a slight advantage at Ellis park, however the Boks missing their best 6 locks due to injuries so it might be a weakness with just Ruan Nortjé / van Rensburg and probably unfortunately won't have PSDT at flank as he'll be moved to lock at some stage.
It's a 50/50 and with NZ bringing in the heavy weights we might see the Boks trying to run the ABs off their feet for a change.
The Boks are using their 7th and 8th choice locks. But I still fancy our chances.
I think this game is going to be epic. I dont even mind who wins. My concerns, if the Bokke loose there will be people who moan about the injuries. If the AB’s loose, there will be people who moan about Leon McDonald. Let up hope that I am wrong…..
If Ireland can beat SA in SA so can NZ they do it regularly
Ireland is ranked No.2 in the world. 6 nations champions and won a series in NZ. They are a serious team, to suggest otherwise is criminal
The ABs don't shock anyone Alfie. It's a shock when they lose.
WIth the squad announced without Eben and RG and Willie, I will settle for a draw in Jhb and go for a win in CT with some re-enforcements hopefully available
how do I feel leading up to the Ellis Park
test...? ..calm and cool
I think the new crop of players in the ABs
have to prove that they are there for a reason...they can stamp their emerging greatness on world rugby and go on to be the next Whitelock or Kaino etc...
so...I know ...have no doubts ..the new
players are destined for a long time at
the top of a winning team....I am not into analysing individual players pros and cons...thats a job for JK and Pod people
however its easy enough to make a call before a big game...
my score is ...ABs 28 ...Boks 23
Just can’t see it happening in test 1. Maybe in Cape Town as Rassie will rotate the squad and it will be hard for them to emotionally get back up.
Will be decided who is stronger in the back field i think. If NZ don't do a good job under the highball.. kolbe and Arendse will skin us. If they dont exit well it opens up SAs power game. On the otherside i think if the ABs can kick well and make them contestable they can pressure a small back 3. I Also think the ABs may be able to attack SA defensive lineout ball.
Was confident until the injuries in the lock department. Not so confident anymore. Could now be a very close game
I think Leon leaving is a good move if it's not working. Nothing positive can come from him hanging around longer if it's been determined that he's not a good fit. They have another 17 coaches in the ABs line up so they should be fine.
Jeez, which other team on the planet can play a fourth string lock combo against the ABs?
Out due to injury:
Jean Klein
RG Snyman
Lood
Mosterd
Eben Etsebeth
Salman Moerat....
The possible starting locks will have 3 caps between them..
This effects the Bomb squad etc!
Part of a coaches job is looking after players. It is only SA to blame since they choose to have their players playing both Northern and Southern hemisphere rugby, rather than rest players. End of day, each team puts on best 23 they can. Pretty simple! Hope SA, should they lose, don’t use excuse of injuries
If there is 1 team that can beat us in SA regularly it is the AB's Luckily everyone knows it so there will be no complacency.
Bok team drops in just over an hour. With injuries I don't think they will be massive favourites.
Boks are RWC champs and best team in the world. Suggest you start wearing and owning that favourite tag.
ABs are underdogs with new team…they have nothing to lose now and all to gain
I think the ABs will win the first test and the Boks the second test.
No, the ABs camp is a bit of disarray.
Being in the now is like waking up in the morning hearing a All Black win
If you wake up to the news of an all blacks win then you woke up late 😂
Ah another huge advantage the Boks have is they're playing both test's at home!
Yeah, if the Boks really want to win 2 on the bounce against the All Blacks, never a better chance than the next 2 games. But you really can never write the All Blacks off.
Boks by 7👍💯
Why a shock ..NZ has won 5 of the last 6 games at Ellispark... Last time these 2 met , only a missed penalty goal cost NZ the match playing I might add with 14 men ...Sorry Alf ...No shock at all.Not even a mild surprise..
if NZ get parity in the "power game", NZ win by 8
Yes, but will it be a real shock? Don't think so. They beat each other fairly regularly lately. The equalizer may be the new coach and loss of some experience for the ABs vs the overrated Boks. Mouth-watering clash incoming!
Never in my life have I seen a more overrated coach than Scott Robertson. Dude won a water d down super rugby a couple of times and he was seen as the kiwi messiah. How much did that help during that record loss to argentina at home? Another Record score incoming. 47-17 for the boks. You get a couple of lucky tries in the last 10. 😂😂
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Razor has a reputation as a super rugby coach, nothing else. Not yet.
He still needs to prove himself at international level, obviously.
His track record is not dissimilar to Rassie when he took over.
So he might turn out the NZ messiah, he might not
Expectations are that he may well do it. The proof in the pudding will be in the eating, as the saying goes.
Good luck to the Boks, but this is an inspiring team selection. Which probably is more due to injuries and is blurred by common sense.
But I am in no position to tell an international world cup wining coach what to do.
@@2msystems740 Rassie took over the worst period in bok rugby history. His early losses can be understood with some context. Hardly comparable to a guy who took over a team that lost the world cup final by a single point. Building on success is easy. Building from scratch is hard.
@@Konst_Abel
Razor supporters will come up with excuses exactly as rassie supporters have.
Time will tell.
@@2msystems740 what excuses have been made for Rassie?
Come on Ireland!
Merchant banker you are me little leprechaun.
Need to get past semis before any accolades!😮😂😂
No. Also the Springboks lost their last test against Ireland.
all blacks pack will be 30kg heavier than the boks. Statement coming up. No team in this day and age should take so much confidence from beating australia twice. They are ranked below italy. so the boks are 1-1 vs ireland. Its a hell of a lot of confidence to have from two aussie wins. Imagine two losses vs the abs. That would now be 2 nil to the abs 1-1 vs ireland a lowly two wins over aussie. That completely changes the face of this bok season. Imagine if the all blacks too a massive amount of hype out of their fiji game.....that would never happen, its fiji......but then again, aussie is only just ranked above fiji. I will say the reverse is true, a double loss to the boks and the abs are dead in the water. If it goes 1-1, ill be a little disappointed. I would prefer to actually see a bit of a smack down. Cant wait
Abs are 1-1 against The pumas at home. Who cares if you lose to a side like Ireland by a last second dropped.
@@ThomasMarchant-c1y fun fact, the boks have lost to Argentina 3 times also. Abs only just caught up now. 3. Just last week. But we haven't ever lost to Japan lololololol.
@@Edgycoofun fact AB"s struggled against England and were lucky to win the first test, Argentina put them underpressure and the cracks quickly showed going down by 8 points, bad weather conditions and Argentina's history of not turning up the week after a big win played nicely into AB'S hands, Argentina never showed up in that game, and even so the AB's fell back into a lul in the second half when weather conditions improved, only scoring 7 points after 35 point lead in the first half, we can sit and cherry pick all day, the fact is South Africa had two tests against the number 2 side in the world, and did quiet well, the All Black haven't been tested at that level yet, the Springboks will be their acid tests
@@oraclearl_fx lol fun fact, England beat Ireland. Ireland beat you
@@Edgycoo fun fact we're Still number 1 arent we
Nervous, always Nervouse vs All Blacks
Marco Bester According to Rassie at his press conference today, Eben Etzebeth is undergoing a fitness test tonight, if he passes he will play and some changes will be made at lock and loose forward positions.
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Ireland were dead favourites at the world cup....
You can never say a NZ win will be a shock!!!
all blacks 44-10 over south africa im not high u are high
You're smoking your socks!
@@georgeholland6725 hahaha 🤣🤣