Penn Badgley hating Joe Goldberg for 4 minutes straight

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  • Penn Badgley hating his character (Joe Goldberg) in Netflix's YOU for 4 minutes straight. Enjoy! :)
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  • @alasiiaa_1637
    @alasiiaa_1637 ปีที่แล้ว +8170

    if joe has a million haters penn is the leader

    • @u8395
      @u8395 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Penn should make a hate club and he should be the leader of the club

    • @hissingwillows668
      @hissingwillows668 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      if joe has one hater penn is the one
      if the world is for joe penn is against the world

    • @shaygalloway8683
      @shaygalloway8683 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol.

    • @leablanchette2454
      @leablanchette2454 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this is so real

  • @The482075
    @The482075 ปีที่แล้ว +22154

    I don't think he dislikes the role. I think he enjoys playing the characters. I think what he despises is how such a despicable character is considered as a hero by certain people. I think he gets fed up of viewers romanticism of an abusive, manipulative, stalking, serial killer.

    • @shanouboubou
      @shanouboubou ปีที่แล้ว +789

      This is what I think as well, the show is very well written and thought and any actor would love to play such a complex character, now the reactions of some fans are... worrying to say the least. But I also think it's super interesting to see how messed up our conception of love can be.

    • @snoozyq9576
      @snoozyq9576 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      I don't get why he's surprised. The story is clearly trying to make people like him. He should pick a different role if he doesn't like that

    • @yummykebab6711
      @yummykebab6711 ปีที่แล้ว +582

      @@snoozyq9576 uh no. The story literally shows all the twisted stuff he does and how he tries to justify it to himself.

    • @michaelrobosa146
      @michaelrobosa146 ปีที่แล้ว +239

      He dislikes the character he's playing, not the role that was given to him. There's a difference between the two. I mean, who wouldn't like Joe's creepy personality? Lol

    • @user-do3xo2bz6v
      @user-do3xo2bz6v ปีที่แล้ว +12

      THIS.

  • @meganobrien5967
    @meganobrien5967 ปีที่แล้ว +14783

    no one despises joe goldberg more than penn badgley

    • @alechamilton1864
      @alechamilton1864 ปีที่แล้ว +207

      I don’t think it’s necessarily that he hates the character, he just is shocked that people are actually looking up to Joe, saying things like, “Joe needs to be happy”

    • @ogalexandria
      @ogalexandria ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alechamilton1864 it’s true. considering the push to reform humanity, you have to understand every crevice of every way of life/thinking that each unique human possesses. I believe TERRIBLE people can change and break their cycle. however to truly break mental disability within that persons genetic chain, it will take generations. it has to start with someone. that one maniac/criminal that finally associates with reality and understands that what they’re doing is not right nor justified. I believe you do need to be happy in order to achieve that level of stability or at least aspire for that moral happiness.

    • @JDdr86
      @JDdr86 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@alechamilton1864 So you are against restorative justice and rehabilitation?

    • @alechamilton1864
      @alechamilton1864 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      @@JDdr86 well for serial killers yes I am…

    • @majeda_a
      @majeda_a ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@JDdr86 yes

  • @VixenValori
    @VixenValori ปีที่แล้ว +11809

    2:15 *"how far are we willing to go to forgive an evil white man"*
    💀

    • @HereForGoodVibes
      @HereForGoodVibes ปีที่แล้ว +617

      I KNOW 💀 I mean is he wrong?

    • @AdrianaMaria-lw4iu
      @AdrianaMaria-lw4iu ปีที่แล้ว +401

      I mean are you gonna look at me and tell me that he’s wrong?

    • @azuki_O
      @azuki_O ปีที่แล้ว +240

      Handsome* don't forget handsome

    • @sseraphim2818
      @sseraphim2818 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      It's not a joke. That's reality.

    • @HereForGoodVibes
      @HereForGoodVibes ปีที่แล้ว +168

      @@azuki_O yup pretty privilege is a big thing

  • @Kholmi.28
    @Kholmi.28 ปีที่แล้ว +5252

    Penn Badgley is how Robert Pattison was with the Twilight Saga💀💀💀

    • @gaurynair7639
      @gaurynair7639 ปีที่แล้ว +312

      Yeahh but you is a well written show with a really good acting skills... And twilight saga is a terrible movie with terrible acting

    • @soph5976
      @soph5976 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@gaurynair7639 true

    • @summoner1451
      @summoner1451 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@gaurynair7639 I wouldn't really say that You is well written either. The writing is cringe af and extremely pretentious. One of the most cringe scenes in the history of all the shows that i've watched happened in season 2 of You. That being the scene where Joe jumps out a window and then Ellie just randomly says "White Male Fragility". The line makes zero sense in the context of the scene and was just the writers throwing in buzz words. The same thing they do in a lot of other scenes on the show.

    • @didiaskfr
      @didiaskfr ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@summoner1451 no i mean if you were hip with teens nowadays that's definitely something someone would say

    • @LuisLEONFC73
      @LuisLEONFC73 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@summoner1451 You just sound triggered, honestly. Really showing that white fragility

  • @bhargavipba
    @bhargavipba ปีที่แล้ว +6772

    I don't think he hates playing the character. But he definitely hates how many people (mostly women) idolize the character.

    • @snoozyq9576
      @snoozyq9576 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Without that it would less popular. Girls like the story because the story wrote Joe in certain way that elicits sympathy and endearment.

    • @mississipi1103
      @mississipi1103 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      @@snoozyq9576 mmmmm i believe also a lot of men identify as Joe sadly

    • @BriarPatchNyra
      @BriarPatchNyra ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I love men policing who women can find attractive, truly he's a feminist icon /s

    • @blooms454
      @blooms454 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BriarPatchNyra bruh stfu HE'S A MURDERER he should absolutely be policing them and being condescending as fuck to them TF. Don't make this about feminism and give feminists a bad name with your bullshit 💀🤡

    • @Wbb-li2ok
      @Wbb-li2ok ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Honestly i seen a lot men back up joes actions throughout the story and justify it more.

  • @radhiadeedou8286
    @radhiadeedou8286 ปีที่แล้ว +3696

    The reactions to the show made him lose hope in humanity

    • @guitarsea003
      @guitarsea003 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      For real tho 😂

    • @emilyau8023
      @emilyau8023 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      When he said he's tired of telling people how to feel...I felt that

    • @blueblack3591
      @blueblack3591 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes sadly

    • @3lttlbrds
      @3lttlbrds ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly 🤣🤣

    • @binarystar300
      @binarystar300 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean, why was he surprised? If everyone hated his character, why would they bother watching?

  • @grannyperson
    @grannyperson ปีที่แล้ว +2192

    I just realized how sexy his voice is lmao

    • @cutiepie3940
      @cutiepie3940 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      How did you not realize earlier😏

    • @malenadraper8805
      @malenadraper8805 ปีที่แล้ว +185

      He’s the narrator of the show. It’s very conflicting

    • @childoftime9964
      @childoftime9964 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      It's ok, you got there in the end haha

    • @alexleveille2741
      @alexleveille2741 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Is the ringing in your head muuuuuusic?

    • @FoolOfTheStars
      @FoolOfTheStars ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Honestly his voice and acting is one of the things that -in my opinion- make this show top tier

  • @Fatalsunday
    @Fatalsunday ปีที่แล้ว +5646

    “There’s a lesson in real-life stalking cases that young women can benefit from learning: persistence only proves persistence-it does not prove love. The fact that a romantic pursuer is relentless doesn’t mean you are special-it means he is troubled.” - Gavin De Becker
    Penn Badgley is spot on. You can only romanticise it if you've never lived it. It is not what you think it is.

    • @jodie3950
      @jodie3950 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I like to believe people have the capacity to tell fiction from reality. You can enjoy watching Joe's escapades, even root for him at times, but it doesn't mean you would ever side with a stalker in real life. It doesn't mean you idolize stalking either. You just enjoy watching a tv show 🤷‍♀️

    • @aaaaaaaafjjdjs
      @aaaaaaaafjjdjs ปีที่แล้ว +110

      @@jodie3950 ofc theres a great wall between fiction and reality and I think many You fans can understand that, but theres also many who genuinely think thats a "hot and romantic" and as OP said, you can only romanticize it if you havent lived thru it

    • @jinxysaberk
      @jinxysaberk ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@aaaaaaaafjjdjs it's not true tho there are literal sexual assault victims with assault rp fetishes because that's how they cope. You can't just assume every victim has PTSD that works the same. Can ABSOLUTELY romanticse something fucked up even if it's already happened to you and it happens a lot.
      (Also ik this is in the context of stalking but eveything I said still applies. Theres a huge difference between you shouldn't romanticse and you can't. It's fiction not reality you can't assume everyone is affected the same way especially by traumatic events)

    • @celestialhymn6838
      @celestialhymn6838 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jodie3950 me when I can't read

    • @corneliahanimann2173
      @corneliahanimann2173 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I remember watching this the first time at a friends place hungover, and hearing Joe do his cope speech the first time I could not stop myself from laughing uncontrollably at that.
      I might be dealing with my own copes, but I was the only one laughing because I thought this was supposed to be a parody of himself, and it's just funny that keeps warping the flawed logic into it, I'm convinced Penn is actually aiming a little bit for the comedic performance, but the rest of the production won't let him.
      I didn't realise that some people think this is romantic. Even in reality when a good looking guy is overly invested in you way too fast, is someone that quickly loses any charm

  • @Syryu
    @Syryu ปีที่แล้ว +797

    I love that Penn Badgley doesn't have any illusions about Joe. Many actors who play these type of characters always try to fully understand or justify their character (mostly as a means of motivation) to the point where they almost sympathize with them. Badgley is just like: "No, this guy's a psycho. There's no doubt about it."
    It's similar to Christian Bale's approach in "American Psycho" he said that a lot of other actors who auditions kept trying to justify, sympathize, and understand Patrick Bateman. Christian Bale just said: "This guy is who he is. He's a psycho. He's an alien to us. There's no higher reason for what he does, he just does it."

    • @zarosderer4447
      @zarosderer4447 ปีที่แล้ว

      No 90% of the time all Joe did is right. He tried to rescue others by killing or self defense.
      Also the others try to manipulate other characters and try to bullshit Joe and try to make him look bad or frame him. Its all to blame themselves for ending up dead.

    • @user-ox3lr8eq5s
      @user-ox3lr8eq5s ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The actors only do it to think more deeply about it and to understand the character so they can act it better.

    • @nanalove3819
      @nanalove3819 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@user-ox3lr8eq5s understanding the character and defending the character are two very different things. Penn Badgley is a perfect example of it.
      I will even say that if you find excuses to a character like Joe, it only shows that you don't understand him cause it means that you believe the fantaisies that Joe tells to himself. So that won't make you play him better, on the contrary.

    • @whatsup968
      @whatsup968 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      My sister dated a guy who turned out to have narcissistic personality disorder. He abused her in every way except physically putting hands on her
      She's out of the relationship now, thankfully
      When we talk about that relationship, sometimes we almost start going down the rabbit hole of "why" her ex behaved as he did
      But we'll never really understand. He was too fucked up
      WE aren't malignant narcissists (like her ex was) so it's a totally foreign/"alien" mindset to us

    • @user-zd8br4gy2s
      @user-zd8br4gy2s ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably because he read the book and Joe in the book is waay creepier.

  • @melware1372
    @melware1372 ปีที่แล้ว +399

    "He's a clown suit that doesn't come off" is the best line I've ever heard

  • @breadcrumbhoarder
    @breadcrumbhoarder ปีที่แล้ว +3113

    I saw my mom watching this show and I was like “oh cool, serial killer show” and she responded “well, he’s not a serial killer, he has reasons and wants to protect people” and I was just like ??????
    Fuck his intentions, he’s a serial killer lmao. Like there’s no ifs/ands, he’s planned and murdered many people, that is the literal definition of a serial killer.

    • @nohemicruz7897
      @nohemicruz7897 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only one he gets a pass for is for killing the pedo even though that was an accident.

    • @kaliced9588
      @kaliced9588 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, serial killers twist morals and logic to "justify" their murders all the time lol

    • @marlene670
      @marlene670 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      That‘s shocking, but also there is a reason why so many women stay with abusive men and try to justify their behavior…. It‘s so sad

    • @tunafish8281
      @tunafish8281 ปีที่แล้ว

      i kinda totally forgot that he's a serial killer. i know he's murdered a couple people but i forgot he wasn't just a psycho stalker💀

    • @breadcrumbhoarder
      @breadcrumbhoarder ปีที่แล้ว +113

      @@Tocaraca serial killers don’t have to enjoy killing to be serial killers though, just because we think of them that way doesn’t mean that what defines them. There have been many serial killers who didn’t necessarily enjoy killing but did it anyway. Also he keeps souvenirs of his victims, a trademark of serial killing

  • @trianenopenottrian9108
    @trianenopenottrian9108 ปีที่แล้ว +632

    I love how level-headed he is. It's so annoying when people play horrible people and try to find an excuse. Some people are just evil.

    • @blueblack3591
      @blueblack3591 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes omg. He sees it the way it is. Joe is bad

    • @mariyabardarska5895
      @mariyabardarska5895 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just to play devil's advocate, there's a difference between excuse and explanation. What he does is undoubtedly bad and wrong, but understanding the reasons behind is really what drives this show and why he's interesting. In reality, it's also a very limited approach to say "this person is bad, deserves x and y and z and that's that". The whole point of understand someone's motivation is to learn how to prevent it and a lot of it comes down to social and parental issues. And yet, in stead of working to become better as a society and individuals, we just dump all the blame onto one person and call it a day. The truth is the mind is a mysterious and complex entity, and people like Joe or even real life examples are just an extreme manifestation of ideas and patterns of thinking that each of us has. If you think about it, if Joe was a healthy version of himself, he'd be a pretty decent if not great guy.

    • @trianenopenottrian9108
      @trianenopenottrian9108 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mariyabardarska5895 I always ask why are you advocating for the devil when people say this. An excuse is a category of explanation. You can take a person who has has a horrible life and use that to explain why which becomes an excuse then the simple rebuttal is yeah but... What about the thousands of others in this situation? The need for nuance has expanded to the forgiveness of bad people which there's a study by Abby Day that says comes from Christain influence in media. I.e advocating for the devil and everything can be explained. Things should be forgiven because yes they did horrific things but they have a good heart.

    • @mariyabardarska5895
      @mariyabardarska5895 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trianenopenottrian9108 because the devil is a representation of everything we don't want to face yet keeps creeping up every chance he gets. People's obsession with seeming perfect and never questioning things so they can stay in their comfortable bubble IS the real devil. To say an explanation is a type of excuse is the biggest bullshit I've ever heard, and if that were the case, then you just completely dismissed the value of jobs like psychologists. This argument about what about the other people in that situation is so old and so played out what I can't believe people actually still bring it up. I thought we were past it but obviously not. You talk about forgiveness but I never said anything about forgiveness. I said understanding. Whether you like to admit it or not, things that happen to us do have an impact and it's not about excusing, forgiving or justifying, but it's about understanding how the mind works and where lies the line between sanity and insanity. What makes one one or the other. It's also funny that you would bring up Christian values since they are the ones who usually jump the gun to put absolutes on things. Nothing is absolutely evil or absolutely good. Infl fact the very concept of an absolute is an abstraction because it's purely man made. If you take Joe as an example, to me knowing his life story, it's interesting to think what he could have turned out to be if he didn't develop such unhealthy coping mechanisms and took things so far. And while most people growing up in abuse and neglect may not turn into serial killers, they still develop some pretty harmful pathologies. But I guess according to you, we shouldn't look at that and work to become better, because "everyone has it bad". What a disgrace. The fact that it happens to so many people IS the problem, Triane, it doesn't make it normal just because it's common. It just makes it something we need to change. Hard to do that if we keep closing out eyes to understanding the role we play in other people's lives and how actions/lack there of matter. But people like you just don't like to to take accountability or look within to understand your own humanity so you'd rather just judge and point fingers. Fair enough, stay in the dark. Ain't nothing there that's not already in the light, only difference is it will trip you up every time because you can't see it.

  • @RipVanTwinkle1
    @RipVanTwinkle1 ปีที่แล้ว +630

    I love how Penn has such a healthy relationship with Joe. LOL But, honestly, it's good that he hates him because if he didn't, I'd probably be really fucking worried.

    • @daniellavaladez7820
      @daniellavaladez7820 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I’d be pretty concerned too lol

    • @zarosderer4447
      @zarosderer4447 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joe I understand him. 90% of the time he did everyhting right. You all cant understand him.

    • @ohmissstrickland7026
      @ohmissstrickland7026 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. If he liked playing joe or resonated with him that would be truly worrisome.

    • @yawrrrrrr
      @yawrrrrrr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@zarosderer4447 you okay dude?

    • @zarosderer4447
      @zarosderer4447 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yawrrrrrr I am very fine, why shouldnt I? Just you all dont know art and how to perceive

  • @tierrajones5203
    @tierrajones5203 ปีที่แล้ว +1603

    The thing that irritates me about this character the most is how he is so self-aware, but he’s also delusional at the same time. And he’s also a hypocrite. He tries to justify murder by saying “I did it for you” and that irritates me. This character is fascinating. I remember in season 1 the girl Beck was like “you deserve better” and Joe says “I do deserve better.” Even though he is a murderer.

    • @onahi2025
      @onahi2025 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Yh he's extremely self aware and extremely delusional

    • @user-mx4is4fx3c
      @user-mx4is4fx3c ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Yeah he clearly has some sort of reality disassociation.
      That became evident in the episode in Peach's house where he was creeped out realizing her stalking behaviour when he was doing the exact same thing.

    • @zarosderer4447
      @zarosderer4447 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol Joe is not to blame. 90% of the time he killed out of self defence or to protect others from evil. And many tried to bullshit him.
      And dont talk about Peach that bitch. She and others are only to blame themselves to die. They did that to themsleves. Otherwise they would kill inoccent ones.
      I dont get it. How can all always talk bad about Joe Character. He is not the villain. Are you blind while watching? They betray him or manipulate him or mock him or trie to kill others and Joe tries to block it. They are the ones who try to manipulate other characters and framing Joe while trying to be evil and also killing.
      And look at beck. Fucking her therapist, lying about it, trying to kill joe when he trusts her and she fucking around on tinder as slut queen.

    • @tierrajones5203
      @tierrajones5203 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zarosderer4447 “how can all always talk bad about Joe character.” Hmmm let’s see. He’s a delusional, self-aware, hypocritical, psychopath that murdered people. Okay yes, Beck did try and escape from Joe. This was because he locked her in a cage. And yes Beck did cheat on Joe with her therapist which is 100% wrong, but that doesn’t mean she deserved to die for it. Peach was an asshole but that doesn’t mean she deserved to die either. The fact that you’re supporting a killer baffles me.

    • @zarosderer4447
      @zarosderer4447 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tierrajones5203 LOL :D Then its better them (who didnt deserve it) to kill others. Thats what would happen. It was them or him or them or others.
      Beck fcuked around like a slut while dating and dumping Joe and then again dating and dumping. Again and again. Like in real life. And she manipulated him and ghosted.
      then she fucked aroiund again and then oh wow she sees him with the black women and then she tries to destroy him and new relationship and does everyhing to be fucked.
      Good I am only watched each season only once. I would be angry if I could remember more. Hoepfully I forgot 90% of each season. Thank good. I would be in a rage when i watch again.
      The scene where she fucked the bartender still hunts me after 5 years. She got the shit fucked out of her and opened the curtains from the window so everyone can see how she is beeing a slut.
      This life is cruel. I wittnessed myself. They bitches trying to bullshit you, mock you and spit on you from above making comments or weird actions so you be the bad one in front of other people. And they do it smart without others noticing.
      So this show only shows how in real life most things are the same.
      The vicitims are to blame themselves. They did this to themselves when attacking Joe and trying to shit on his life and relationships.
      They deserved it

  • @j.c7719
    @j.c7719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +918

    God, I love him

    • @dellina8512
      @dellina8512 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don’t say Gods name in vain

    • @j.c7719
      @j.c7719 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dellina8512 I’ll say whatever I want.
      No one has to follow your religion but YOU.

    • @juanvarela1950
      @juanvarela1950 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@dellina8512 god god god god god god god god god

    • @JDdr86
      @JDdr86 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dellina8512 Fuck YAHWEH!, and Allah, for that matter.

    • @joshuaomar2992
      @joshuaomar2992 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@dellina8512 god oh my fucking god oh my fucking god.

  • @alessandrajackson3768
    @alessandrajackson3768 ปีที่แล้ว +1916

    I can’t imagine how annoying it must be to play a villain to such a good degree, but a bunch of fan girls sexualize it and acting as if he is some sort of anti-hero!

    • @hl1342
      @hl1342 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I mean I don't think it's really that bad bc it's just a character. I love Joe as a bad guy with anti-heroic traits, he's a great character, not a good person. Never idolize a serial killer.

    • @emilyau8023
      @emilyau8023 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You just scream noooooooooooo! internally and lose a bit of hope for humanity lol

    • @droid5785
      @droid5785 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eh better than being castrated for playing Jeffrey on game of thrones among other roles. Some villain actors are hated irl for what they do

    • @junnafur
      @junnafur ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I rooted for him only because some of the other characters annoyed me more. But is he a good person??? NO. I found the fact that he disliked the “killer” side of Love so weird cause he’s EXACTLY like that!

    • @zarosderer4447
      @zarosderer4447 ปีที่แล้ว

      90% of the time Joe did right. I understand him. He is not a villain. He is good hearted. He is justice. And killed for self defence or protecting others. So stop tallking bullshit

  • @loomman5296
    @loomman5296 ปีที่แล้ว +603

    I love how he hates Joe probably more than anyone who watches the show.

    • @mistyfreya
      @mistyfreya ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Nah, I'm on the same page

    • @blueblack3591
      @blueblack3591 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep

    • @s1kawais
      @s1kawais ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nah, I hate Joe as much as him

  • @purplecat2630
    @purplecat2630 ปีที่แล้ว +996

    "To me is how far are we willing to go to forgive an evil white man"

    • @franzelagigel9222
      @franzelagigel9222 ปีที่แล้ว

      are you fucking serious ?

    • @ecueto395
      @ecueto395 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He speaks the truth

    • @marvin2678
      @marvin2678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ecueto395 the chracter is not white

    • @marvin2678
      @marvin2678 ปีที่แล้ว

      except hes not white

    • @smhs01
      @smhs01 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@marvin2678 penn badgley is white, which is information that’s freely available on google. the character is also white, and he literally just confirmed that to you himself in this video.

  • @jackieluna
    @jackieluna ปีที่แล้ว +294

    The way he despises Joe’s character (rightfully so, the man is a roach) yet he plays him SO WELL!! I can’t think of anyone else who could portray him as well as Penn can

  • @kerp0864
    @kerp0864 ปีที่แล้ว +739

    I think it’s so important he continually reminds us that this is not a man we should be feeling remorse or love towards. Now a days it’s so easy for young people to sympathize and want to “bang” serial killers or abusive people bc it’s “hot” or whatever and I love how he shuts that shit down every time. Because he is incredible in this role and I think it’s because he knows we are NOT supposed to want to date someone like Joe.

    • @blooms454
      @blooms454 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE GIRLS WHO ARE BLIND AND IN LOVE WITH JOE!!! SAVE THEIR SOULS WITH YOUR WORDS

    • @kerp0864
      @kerp0864 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@blooms454 it scares me so much how people will HATE Joe’s “love interests” bc they don’t “appreciate his dedication and love” 🤢

    • @blooms454
      @blooms454 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kerp0864 I remember when season 1 came out and the comments said Becca deserved to die…I vowed to never fucking watch this show because of this shit. It’s too much

    • @omnimonium
      @omnimonium ปีที่แล้ว +5

      and it really sucks! because there are so few shows and movies that have the protagonist as a psychologically troubled antihero/villain, and those are my absolute favorites. but because people romanticize the hell out of every single one of them, it almost makes me not want to have them continue. but the problem isn't the art, it's the people and their problematic interpretations.

    • @zarosderer4447
      @zarosderer4447 ปีที่แล้ว

      well they deserved it Joe did 90% of the time everything right. He had no choice. Self defense and trying to rescue others from getting killed. The others are to blame for their death because of their actions.

  • @machine_maggot
    @machine_maggot ปีที่แล้ว +68

    i’m so relieved that penn doesn’t give joe a break or let people have the romantic fantasy of him. he delicately acknowledges joe’s motives (finding love) but doesn’t excuse the means (stalking, murder, and desire for complete possession of someone else).

  • @samy-tk3qy
    @samy-tk3qy ปีที่แล้ว +225

    The way he hates his own character 😂

  • @chasingstars4
    @chasingstars4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    0:49 his face here kills me LMAO

    • @hobisoon
      @hobisoon ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hahahaha good eye😂

  • @childoftime9964
    @childoftime9964 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    I actually hate the character as well and that's why I love Penn, and I love the show. People don't really like straight up good, happy, vanilla characters, they like the messed up ones. Ultimately people are drawn towards watching things that are darker. That's why the show works. It's like Dexter.

    • @Afinati
      @Afinati ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Drama can be portrayed in the most seemingly banal scenarios. I happen to enjoy portrayals of well-adjusted people experiencing relatable challenges too.

    • @childoftime9964
      @childoftime9964 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Afinati of course, honestly it depends on the story and what it calls for

  • @carlissaneumann8133
    @carlissaneumann8133 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Yea I agree with him. I also don’t find Joe’a character attractive or romantic at all! He is clearly messed in the head. However I find the show fascinating to watch because of how close and personal we get with a character like this, how we get to hear his inner monologue and how he justifies all of his evil behaviour. It’s so interesting how Joe really believes he is a good person after all he did.

    • @0422Juls
      @0422Juls ปีที่แล้ว +9

      SAME! The show is entertaining as heck but I cant even imagine wanting Joe. My favorite thing about watching the show is just being utterly disgusted at his insanity and hypocrisy and being surprised over and over at just how insane the character can truly be.
      tbh, I didn't even know people were idolizing the character at all because I couldn't even imagine anyone thinking that way while watching the show. It's so sad!

    • @ecueto395
      @ecueto395 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I find Penn extremely attractive, but not Joe. Also, I think the fact Penn is so open about how horrible Joe is and that it’s not a love story and he’s not a redeemable person makes him even more attractive to me. Penn’s intelligence makes me 🫠😍

  • @iamalemon415
    @iamalemon415 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    So glad he sees it, because a huge part of the fan base doesn’t seem to and it’s like… how?

  • @CalltoaMentor
    @CalltoaMentor ปีที่แล้ว +63

    It works so well because this loathing seeps into the role. You can hear Joe’s self-loathing masked as smug self-satisfaction so clearly.

  • @delphinelisabeth
    @delphinelisabeth ปีที่แล้ว +73

    this guy is so aware of the obsession of public watching a serial killer moralized

  • @acerai4470
    @acerai4470 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    If Penn keeps talking like this, Joe might pay him a visit in the mirror one of these days

  • @notmyselfusee
    @notmyselfusee ปีที่แล้ว +29

    It’s kind of poetic that he plays the role of a psychopath and like real a psychopath, he is able to see his dark motives but other people are oblivious or choose to ignore his actions telling them exactly who he is

  • @RiniDiamandis
    @RiniDiamandis ปีที่แล้ว +275

    I wish he would've just admitted it's a yandere story and be done w it lmaoo

    • @sunmi2539
      @sunmi2539 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      LMAO

    • @EmyN
      @EmyN ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yandere story lol

    • @faithrose4197
      @faithrose4197 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, yeah basically😂😂😂

    • @Indhel9957
      @Indhel9957 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      .... I was not prepared to find such brazen truth in this comments section XD
      Thank you lol

    • @chaaaargh
      @chaaaargh ปีที่แล้ว +2

      honestly never thought about that until now lmaoo true

  • @avennoronha7081
    @avennoronha7081 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Man Joe does a great impression of Penn Badgley.

  • @hazelmansfield4756
    @hazelmansfield4756 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    "How far will we go to forgive an evil white man" is the realest thing ever

  • @Jackn17_
    @Jackn17_ ปีที่แล้ว +218

    2:59 i agree it’s not a love story. It’s a comedy lmao
    Little scared for what’ll happen to Joe in season 4 as Penn is directing but I’m sure I’ll love it

    • @khamazon8893
      @khamazon8893 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I think he truly understands the character more than anybody else. I'm sure the studio just wants the show to be dramatic and wants people to fall in love with joe because it's good for views but I'm sure with Penn directing he'll take a darker turn and truly show people how Joe is a bad person and shouldn't be idolized or romanticized.

    • @Jackn17_
      @Jackn17_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@khamazon8893 Joe still has a couple good/not bad traits thoughwhich Penn might take away💀
      He feels guilty about his shit.. eventually, he cares about kids and his narration is hilarious

    • @maybenotserious
      @maybenotserious ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it might be the best season yet. The first half was great!

    • @Jackn17_
      @Jackn17_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maybenotserious I don’t think it’s the best but it’s definitely very good and different lol

  • @hoziersexual
    @hoziersexual ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "He's a clown suit that doesn't come off until the end." Love it. 🤣

  • @beerussama7093
    @beerussama7093 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I like how instead of relishing in the fan’s love for Joe, he calls them out like “What the hell is wrong with you?”

  • @skippykipper101
    @skippykipper101 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I appreciate how important it is to him that he corrects the romanticization everyone has with his character

  • @chanamalkakranz7618
    @chanamalkakranz7618 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I feel like a lot of the girls sexualizing stalkers and murderers in works of fiction wouldn’t actually want it to happen to them in real life. Like, people think a murderer is hot if it’s a book or a movie but if it were to be in real life, they’d be terrified of him.

    • @kaliced9588
      @kaliced9588 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Yeah, I think some women just want to feel strongly desired by someone they desire. There's nothing wrong with THAT, but I think movies and shows often mistakenly portray stalkers and murderers as doing what they do out of "desire" when it's more of an "obsession" with their OWN entitlement, views of how their life SHOULD be, feeling like they're "saving" someone (who doesn't need it), hurting someone who "deserves" it, control, anger, etc. I actually like that Joe is an unreliable narrator, but it's sad that a lot of fans admire or root for him lol

    • @azuki_O
      @azuki_O ปีที่แล้ว +9

      True. Watching the show there is this scene
      Spoiler!
      He has his ex in the back of his van, tied up, in the middle of the night, saying they're just going to rekindle their love by having a nice picnic. He's frantic and she's terrified . This scene was just so terrifying because that's the reality of him. Good guys don't tie up scared girls in their vans.
      Imagining it happening to someone I love, i just can't see him as 1 good person anymore.

    • @chaosspy6723
      @chaosspy6723 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      um murderers have fanclubs. Some people are just crazy.

    • @tunafish8281
      @tunafish8281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fr, my family was stalked by this asshole for awhile and it was terrifying. i remember being like 9 or 10 walking past the dining room window seeing him in my yard and my heart instantly dropping

    • @KCAssassin98
      @KCAssassin98 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean serial killers tend to get bombarded with love letters. It's really weird.

  • @jiminsshii
    @jiminsshii ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Giving same vibes as Robert Pattinson hating Edward

  • @raikkonenss
    @raikkonenss ปีที่แล้ว +32

    literally not one person dislikes Joe more than Penn does

  • @gingersnapz0374
    @gingersnapz0374 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    “How far are we willing to go to forgive an evil white man” fr.

  • @jinxysaberk
    @jinxysaberk ปีที่แล้ว +54

    "how far are we willing to go to save an evil white man" that's fucking hilarious and true

  • @spotlYghtseeker
    @spotlYghtseeker ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s funny that he said that because when I started watching this show, I was like what is with all these serial killer romancing glorification shows. But then… I was hooked. The writing and performances were so outstanding. I just couldn’t stop watching it. It took me about 3 or 4 episodes into Season 2 to get over the loss of Beck and be pulled back I . That is how incredible the writing and acting is in this show. So so brilliantly done.

  • @universedonut159
    @universedonut159 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm really glad that he's clear on his character and the story, like it can be fun and/or important to play a role and tell a story without liking or rooting for the character, if you're playing a villain like he is

  • @ICHIMANExTKND
    @ICHIMANExTKND ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s Dope How He Takes Responsibility For That Role And Never Give People Whatever Crazy They’re Looking For.. He Shuts That Shit Down.. Artist Don’t Take That Kinda Responsibility.. Admirable..

  • @blsk3719
    @blsk3719 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He plays him so well that I would be actually nervous around him in real life.

  • @hotdogwater9060
    @hotdogwater9060 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    normalise actors hating their characters, aka rob pat, penn, etc

  • @Marylsa
    @Marylsa ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I think he enjoyes acting but doest understand why fans make Joe a romantic figure, while he is an stalker/killer.

  • @krishnanayar9461
    @krishnanayar9461 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I have a deep respect for Penn’s acknowledgment of Joe’s messed up psyche.

  • @beauner4627
    @beauner4627 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    He would be such a good mr fantastic

  • @kalystaortiz3701
    @kalystaortiz3701 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i love this cuz same
    but also it’s a sadly much needed reminder to certain people…

  • @MsJoee21
    @MsJoee21 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This feels like the non-supernatural equivalent of Robert Pattinson hating Edward/Twilight in interviews 😂

  • @bigcatenergy3707
    @bigcatenergy3707 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love how he keeps it honest about the character 💯

  • @Kthxbye988
    @Kthxbye988 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy to see you back! Yeah it's hard to be productive when you're just living and enjoying each moment, I get that.
    Lol the IFS bit, wish you all the best of luck! I think you can do it, you've had words of wisdom that have never left me!

  • @msSweeTae
    @msSweeTae ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I freaking love the first season!
    I just love the psychology behind the character Joe. He's obviously sick, but something I only realized after watching it is how much he idolized Beck. He kept on putting that halo over her head and blamed people around her for her actions.
    Beck was actually pretty awful...
    Self-centered, slept with like every man, treated her dad like garbage, pitying herself into oblivion, being ungrateful and so on.
    At least she didn't sleep with the professor.
    And who the heck said that YOU is a love story???? If you think that then I'm sorry.

  • @Tiana326
    @Tiana326 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If the role “Joe Goldberg” had 5 top haters, he would be the first in that list.

  • @yourwrongimright101_69
    @yourwrongimright101_69 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how complicated Joe is. Like he is a very bad guy but at the same time he has a lot of traits that could make him a genuinely good person.

  • @felixoloo1
    @felixoloo1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hahaha I'm so here for this!

  • @pjm9579
    @pjm9579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could listen to his voice all day

  • @KiLovely
    @KiLovely ปีที่แล้ว +7

    😂😂😂😂😂 I love how Penn absolutely hates Joe but he plays him so well.

  • @Hello61Jello
    @Hello61Jello ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is on purpose cause people end up looking up to characters like this. A Physics TA on my college campus was inspired by American Psycho and ended up murdering a student (I went to UIUC you can look it up). People end up thinking the character is cool which is stupid af so Penn is trying to emphasize like hey he is not the f*cking hero and is a terrible person.

  • @brooklyncurrys
    @brooklyncurrys ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i’m in love, and his voice-

  • @rabeccarynder5560
    @rabeccarynder5560 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m scared shitless of his character but seeing him acting normal has made me fall in love 😍

  • @robwalters2537
    @robwalters2537 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love how much he actually enjoys hating the guy

  • @astridediva
    @astridediva ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think penn badgley have this beard to move away from Joe 😂😂❤

    • @hazee03
      @hazee03 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      watch the trailer for the new season hes got the beard lmao

    • @leinaleilani
      @leinaleilani ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hazee03 penn gonna be babyfaced for the rest of his life

  • @sunmi2539
    @sunmi2539 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    As he should!!!

  • @haseebanaseer2236
    @haseebanaseer2236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just finished the whole series and i have not slept past few days,I'm getting Joe's nightmares 🥺😭😭

  • @brendapeterson4637
    @brendapeterson4637 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I love this show, I will miss Love though !!!😊😊😊😊

    • @LuLu24Ayo
      @LuLu24Ayo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Victoria is a gift 💝

  • @pandorabox5532
    @pandorabox5532 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Im glad to see Penn has the same opinion as me about Joe 😂😂 I like the show because the plot is interesting and Joe's inner monologue is funny but a lot of times I'm rooting for whoever is trying to kill him at the time

    • @zarosderer4447
      @zarosderer4447 ปีที่แล้ว

      they deserved it not Joe to die lol wtf do you even watch the show correctly?

  • @livinglegacy7
    @livinglegacy7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like him as an actor even more now!

  • @rachelmarshall4986
    @rachelmarshall4986 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that it's Wii music in the background

  • @harshitasinghnaruka6938
    @harshitasinghnaruka6938 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Many people don't know but Joe consider gossip girls script stupid as well

  • @sapphiresage4106
    @sapphiresage4106 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ive never prayed on a downfall of a fictional character so hard then on this show😂

  • @larajayne4934
    @larajayne4934 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is such an incredible and talented actor 🥰

  • @mida7777
    @mida7777 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how he looks now with the longer hair and full facial hair 😍

  • @cieraleal8030
    @cieraleal8030 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    how can someone hate a character so much n yet be so good at portraying it with all its creepiness

  • @sharayushinde8613
    @sharayushinde8613 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    but imma shout one thing i love his acting alot since gossip girls he is true infj

  • @manuelabushamani139
    @manuelabushamani139 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love penn so much

  • @romawatches
    @romawatches ปีที่แล้ว

    this actually makes me want to watch the show

  • @shaveeitbahaddur3172
    @shaveeitbahaddur3172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Joe Goldberg ❤️

  • @sshwdp
    @sshwdp ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thats such a Joe Goldberg thing to do

  • @BREAKocean
    @BREAKocean ปีที่แล้ว

    This reminds me how the motion cap actor for a villain in a video game also hated his character a lot

  • @Lovelyaribb
    @Lovelyaribb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like seeing him next to the girl who plays Beck all happy 😭

  • @SuperVoidBoyz
    @SuperVoidBoyz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah I really liked Love Quinn's character... I mean partially because its Victoria Pedretti lmao.. but the concerning parts that I related to her about was the whole protecting the ones you love from evil people/ punishing evil people. Yeah I don't know.. I think part of this whole ordeal is me being desperate for love and loneliness. And there are lots of people like that. But as well clearly see they both just started killing random innocent people who they felt were getting in their way of their toxic relationship. Honestly though.. towards the end of season 3 I kind of wished Love Won so that Joe could feel what it's like to be one of his own victims.

    • @healsapphire2842
      @healsapphire2842 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel that. I was pretty frustrated it was Love being taken down instead of Joe

    • @isiahmaliklevantezimmerman6570
      @isiahmaliklevantezimmerman6570 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean love was also a bad character. At some point equally as bad as Joe is. I don't think she deserved to win and live in the end but neither did Joe. It would be fitting for him if one of this victims led to his demise.

  • @musician4598
    @musician4598 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is hilarious lol

  • @naomienglish1699
    @naomienglish1699 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way that i saw a meme about his name looking like something someone made up on the spot from things they were looking at and now I can't see his name the same 😭

  • @AA65710
    @AA65710 ปีที่แล้ว

    Penn Badgley dislike and confusion for the character is the same amount dislikable confusion as Rob Patterson towards Edward Cullen and I’m here for it 😂

  • @travisvallemusic
    @travisvallemusic ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm glad he's aware of this. This is the thought I had when watching the show. I actually stopped for a while because I was like "He's a horrible disgusting person" then someone told me about Love and I was like "Oh maybe someone will finally kill him!"

  • @gemmarankin2756
    @gemmarankin2756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey bestie

  • @Dressagio
    @Dressagio ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so unexpectedly amusing, I never knew he was so funny😭😭😭

  • @yosrabengaddour3587
    @yosrabengaddour3587 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's like witnessing Robert Pattinson's hate for his character and twilight in general.

  • @kiraking4860
    @kiraking4860 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really hope Penn doesn’t give up this role some day because he’s tired of being joe.

  • @zoeshirin2860
    @zoeshirin2860 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Agree

  • @zilah2010
    @zilah2010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:08 “he’s gonna keep…..joeing it up” 😭😭😭

  • @chakarasama
    @chakarasama ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love his voice

  • @chanelsiobhan
    @chanelsiobhan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This show can actually open a door for a lot of copycats. This world is crazy. I actually respect him a lot and think it’s smart that he’s vocal about his disdain for the character and his morals because other people fall too deep into Joe, myself included at times 🤣 you really do forget that he’s a SERIAL KILLER and you root for him and it’s warped. Good for Penn for staying true to himself because he consistently keeps the same energy when it comes to the topic of Joe and holding him accountable

  • @klas-6
    @klas-6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    SPOILER ALERT for S4 pt2
    The only reason why I knew Joe was never gonna start fresh because he always downplays his infatuation and killings as 'mistakes' with choosing the wrong person or how he didn't love the person right. Even when he was gonna kill himself in Season 4, he still believed that he tried everything to make his past relationships work, but he never thought that it's cos he never loved them.

  • @DaDubZzz
    @DaDubZzz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Season 4 really showed how Penn Badgley sees joe lol

  • @yumekojabami233
    @yumekojabami233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not him saying "oh how u get rid off of a body like u never done this before xD " broo was fed up hahaha