I have a theory for recent MVPs. Giannis won 19-20 mvps and won finals in 21. Jokic won 21-22 mvps, and won finals in 23. If Embiid wins MVP in the 24 season, will he win the finals in 25?
As of Nov. 5, 2023, Bob Cousy is the oldest living MVP and the oldest living member of NBA 25th, 35th, 50th and 75th Anniversary team. Petit is also a living member of this exclusive list. Russell was also a living member when he was selected for the 75 Anniversary team in 2021. Mikan passed away in 2005.
It was very sad that the year after Derrick Rose won the season MVP, he suffered a serious injury that tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee. If Rose hadn't suffered a serious injury, the Bulls of the 2010s would have remained a powerhouse team for several more years.
@@genesisosuna oh we gonna keep to bring this narrative alright. i still remember after Jokic won the 2022 mvp, Embiid said "idk what else I have to do to win it, at this point its whatever"
Nooooo….As a spurs BUT basketball fan I do agree, he did get cooked(well done). Buuuut everyone got a fun lil fact, I’m just saying you didn’t have to do him dirty. Put some respect on David Robinson name, it’s not like he was scrub winning. Also it’s a season award not playoff award. Straight up who’s best? Yes, I’ll take the dream but don’t make David sound like some scrub.
The top 90's centers were Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, and Shaq and Hakeem ended up cooking them all in the playoffs during the Rockets' two championship runs. 🔥
Jokic should have won 2023 MVP. Still can't believe the NBA chose to give sympathy MVP to Embiid. They robbed Jokic of his 3rd in a row MVP, making another history in NBA.
I think it’s referring to the fact that KG was the first player to win drafted directly to the NBA out of high school, whereas Moses came out of high school into the ABA
Moses Malone came straight from high school into the ABA and went on to win NBA MVP a couple times as well, so how is Kevin Garnett the first player to win MVP coming straight out of high school
@14:50 is incorrect and you can tell your source @tomhaberstroh that: Paul millsap alone has multiple allstar, all nba and all defensive and he was on 2020-2021 denver nuggets when jokic won his first MVP, i literally seen him play 50-75% of games that year playing atleast 20 minutes. I wont bother checking all jokic his teammates from every year! Others on this list are also Bshit because i know for a fact lebron james moved to Miami to start season #8 ... no need to bring up all his teammates and when they got their accolades, but for reference bosh and wade alone amount to 25-30 all league selections over their careers.... and curry during 2015 mvp? i dont know all the numbers but atleast for 2015 there was only 10 all league selections MAX in the roster.... if you wanna count the years BEFORE a player has made his first MVP then the person creating this graph is really ridiculous because jokic also played with isaiah thomas whos a 2time allstar and maybe even has allnba... not sure. END OF RANT.
I wondered about that too, but for Kevin Garnett it says "skip college and play in the NBA right out of high school" so the fact is correct. Malone skipped college and played in the ABA right out of high school and then the NBA.
at least put some respect on david robinson man. i really like ur videos and contents. but man, david robinson earned his mvp. he deserve it. u know that in playoffs its all back to zero.even mvp nowitzki lost to an 8 seed.
According to bitter Pistons players, Larry Bird was overrated because he was white. They said if he was black, he'd be considered just another good player.
God the Embiid MVP was the saddest MVP "gift" ever. He even backed out of the "decider" battles him and jokic could of had before the end of the season. Stupid race obsessed media, we all know that was a factor. Along with the crying lol
Playing the "race card". 🙄 MVP race is narrative-based and voters like picking a new player/story. Even legends LeBron, Jordan, and Magic never won MVP 3x in a row. The last 3x in a row MVP was Larry Bird in 1986!!
@@thebasketballhistorian3291 yes Perkins and multiple other commentators brought race into it. It's all well documented, obviously should of been otherwise it would of been Jokic.
The bshit voting for MVP has been evident for a decade for me... ive tried to look up certain past mvp votings and statleaders of that year etc. But i never thought MJ would have been one of the players who got cheated out of multiple MVPs... and im not just looking at ppg. When magic has kareem to pass to, its natural hes getting 10+ assists, who is jordan passing to, rookies Grant and Pippen!?! Jordan in 89: 10 points more, a steal more, a block more and better fg%, he loses by 4 assists and a small FT% ... who cares about where your team placed.. its an individual award. Jordan in 90: 11.5 points more, a steal, a block and way better fg%... again he loses by assists and small ft% only, hes even got more winshares! 91 jordan gets it and the only thing changed is: bulls have highest net rating and finish 1st.... after that they even beat LA in an almost sweep in the finals of playoffs. So we can obviously see MVP voters weigh TEAM performance heavily... then look at embiid 2023... 76ers did F* all and embiid only had points and blocks over jokic, 12 other League leading stats went to the joker and so did team performance.... playoffs they even win the title, all of a sudden voters dont care about team seeding?. so.... in 89 criteria is jordans team has a worse record, whats the criteria in 90 when even barkley gets more votes than jordan....again the team standing!?
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I have a theory for recent MVPs. Giannis won 19-20 mvps and won finals in 21. Jokic won 21-22 mvps, and won finals in 23. If Embiid wins MVP in the 24 season, will he win the finals in 25?
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I know it’s said often but I love how he says rest in peace to the players who passed on.
Putting Anthony Bennett with a 6.9 PER is WILD😂
As of Nov. 5, 2023, Bob Cousy is the oldest living MVP and the oldest living member of NBA 25th, 35th, 50th and 75th Anniversary team. Petit is also a living member of this exclusive list. Russell was also a living member when he was selected for the 75 Anniversary team in 2021. Mikan passed away in 2005.
How old is Cousy now?
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It was very sad that the year after Derrick Rose won the season MVP, he suffered a serious injury that tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee.
If Rose hadn't suffered a serious injury, the Bulls of the 2010s would have remained a powerhouse team for several more years.
So is jamal
Embiid is the also the first player to cry his way in winning the MVP.
God, when is this stupid narrative gonna die. I thought we were past this already.
@@genesisosuna You don’t get past the truth. You can only try to ignore and forget, as you are doing.
@@genesisosuna oh we gonna keep to bring this narrative alright. i still remember after Jokic won the 2022 mvp, Embiid said "idk what else I have to do to win it, at this point its whatever"
@@sleep_soundshe averaged 33 and 12 on 60+ true shooting percentage… is that not mvp worthy???
@@genesisosuna shut it up
Damn you did David Robinson dirty lol. Could of easily said the only mvp to be in the military smh
Hakeem damn near made the military be like nah, he not with us lol
“MVP fun fact: David Robinson got cooked by Hakeem.”
Nooooo….As a spurs BUT basketball fan I do agree, he did get cooked(well done). Buuuut everyone got a fun lil fact, I’m just saying you didn’t have to do him dirty. Put some respect on David Robinson name, it’s not like he was scrub winning. Also it’s a season award not playoff award. Straight up who’s best? Yes, I’ll take the dream but don’t make David sound like some scrub.
The top 90's centers were Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, and Shaq and Hakeem ended up cooking them all in the playoffs during the Rockets' two championship runs. 🔥
Moses Malone is the first played to win MVP who skipped college and came straight outta high school
Why did you sneak in AB at 15:03😂
Embiid is also the most underserved MVP in NBA history
Jokic should have won 2023 MVP. Still can't believe the NBA chose to give sympathy MVP to Embiid.
They robbed Jokic of his 3rd in a row MVP, making another history in NBA.
Embiid was way better in regular season lil bro
@10:30 KG is not the first High schooler to win mvp, Moses Malone is.
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I think it’s referring to the fact that KG was the first player to win drafted directly to the NBA out of high school, whereas Moses came out of high school into the ABA
@@chris9510yes it said he’s the first to go straight to the nba out of highschool
U put a lot of dedication in ur videos respect the hard work
He really does.
That jokic stat about never playing with decorated teammate is literally crazy
wilt not winning after putting up 50 points per game is crazy
I mean what more could he do? 😭😭
@@bobcally861help the team win
@@amosstarkey485 carried the team to the conference finals on his back, only so much one man can do
i mean for the longest time you didn’t win mvp without being a 1 or 2 seed
@@bobcally861 had 50pts but literally only 2ast 40pt and 5ast would be much better
10:44, you math is off. 1066 - 1034 = 32, not 34 as mentioned. Hope it helps. Nice video!
For me,basketball players who deserved MVP to 1956 to 2023 is :
1956 - Bob Petit
1957 - Bill Russell(NBA Champion)
1958 - Bill Russell(NBA Finals)(x2)
1959 - Bob Petit(NBA Finals)(x2)
1960 - Wilt Chamberlain
1961 - Bill Russell(NBA Champion)(x3)
1962 - Wilt Chamberlain(x2)
1963 - Wilt Chamberlain(x3)
1964 - Bill Russell(x4)(NBA Champion)
1965 - Bill Russell(x5)(NBA Champion)
1966 - Wilt Chamberlain(x4)
1967 - Wilt Chamberlain(x5)(NBA Champion)
1968 - Jerry West(NBA Finals)
1969 - Willis Reed
1970 - Oscar Robertson
1971 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar(NBA Champion)
1972 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar(x2)
1973 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar(x3)
1974 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar(NBA Finals)(x4)
1975 - Bob McAdo
1976 - Dave Cowens(NBA Champion)
1977 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar(x5)
1978 - Willis Reed(NBA Champion)
1979 - Moses Malone
1980 - Julius Erving(NBA Finals)
1981 - Magic Johnson
1982 - Moses Malone(x3)
1983 - Moses Malone(NBA Champion)(x4)
1984 - Larry Bird(NBA Champion)
1985 - Larry Bird(NBA Finals)
1986 - Michael Jordan
1987 - Magic Johnson(NBA Champion)(x2)
1988 - Michael Jordan(x2)
1989 - Charles Barkley
1990 - Magic Johnson(x3)
1991 - Michael Jordan(NBA Champion)(x3)
1992 - Michael Jordan(NBA Champion)(x4)
1993 - Michael Jordan(NBA Champion)(x5)
1994 - Hakeem Olajuwon(NBA Champion)
1995 - David Robinson
1996 - Michael Jordan(NBA Champion)(x6)
1997 - Karl Malone(NBA Finals)
1998 - Michael Jordan(NBA Champion)(x7)
1999 - Karl Malone(x2)
2000 - Shaquille O’Neal(NBA Champion)
2001 - Allen Iverson(NBA Finals)
2002 - Kobe Bryant(NBA Champion)
2003 - Tim Duncan(NBA Champion)
2004 - Kevin Garnett
2005 - Dirt Nowitzki
2006 - Kobe Bryant(x2)
2007 - Lebron James(NBA Finals)
2008 - Kobe Bryant(NBA Finals)(x3)
2009 - Lebron James(x2)
2010 - Kobe Bryant(NBA Champion)
2011 - Carmelo Anthony
2012 - Lebron James(NBA Champion)(x3)
2013 - Lebron James(NBA Champion)(x4)
2014 - Kevin Durant
2015 - Stephen Curry(NBA Champion)
2016 - Stephen Curry(NBA Finals)
2017 - James Harden
2018 - Lebron James(NBA Finals)(x5)
2019 - James Harden(x2)
2020 - Giannis
2021 - Giannis(NBA Champion)(x2)
2022 - Nicola Jokič
2023 - Joel Embiid
Love your video bro i liked ur every cideo almost i think
8:34 no way he put david Robinson vs hakeem gd highlights edit
Great vid
What was that hand motion that Shaq was doing at 9:45???
those tears on embiid are an excellent detail.
15:02 why you gotta do my by anthony bennet that bad
15:02 Putting Anthony Bennett with all these other NBA legends had me dying. 😂
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8:34 David Robinsons Part
*Show David Robinson getting cooked by Hakeem*
9:44 what was Shaq wit his hands? 🤨
5:36 that’s Connie Hawkins on the left
I'm 100% sure the picture when talking about Dr J. on the left is Connie Hawkins rest in peace
That picture of Connie Hawkins confused me when he was talking about Dr.J hahaah
Interesting facts
Can you make next video about finals mvp?🏆
Oops,1969 And 1978 is for Wes Unseld,1964 is for Oscar Robertson And 1970 is for Willis Reed
Why was Anthony Bennett in this video💀
Never been this early before. Cool
Me to!
5:28 that’s definitely connie hawkins for the aba mvp
And a screenshot of "Kareem" and "Magic" from the HBO series at 5:14!
Wilt definitely deserved that ‘62 mvp over Bill
Joel is the 3rd consecutive player to win the title that were born outside of USA.
Yes, but five consecutive MVP awards were won by players born outside of the US.
No one will win 3 in a row like Larry Bird
What do you mean?
@@Maltesfilmhe's the only one to three peat within the media voting era, I guess.
Well if identity politics wasn't so cringely prevalent in modern society I think Jokic would of.
@@twuandixon8675 yeah I agree.
@@twuandixon8675so true. Jokic should’ve won MVP last season too. Instead of crybaby Embiid.
Moses Malone came straight from high school into the ABA and went on to win NBA MVP a couple times as well, so how is Kevin Garnett the first player to win MVP coming straight out of high school
The ABA was still a separate entity at the time he won since it was pre-merger, so you could technically say he played in two different leagues
Did Moses play in the NBA straight out of high school?
@14:50 is incorrect and you can tell your source @tomhaberstroh that: Paul millsap alone has multiple allstar, all nba and all defensive and he was on 2020-2021 denver nuggets when jokic won his first MVP, i literally seen him play 50-75% of games that year playing atleast 20 minutes. I wont bother checking all jokic his teammates from every year!
Others on this list are also Bshit because i know for a fact lebron james moved to Miami to start season #8 ... no need to bring up all his teammates and when they got their accolades, but for reference bosh and wade alone amount to 25-30 all league selections over their careers.... and curry during 2015 mvp? i dont know all the numbers but atleast for 2015 there was only 10 all league selections MAX in the roster.... if you wanna count the years BEFORE a player has made his first MVP then the person creating this graph is really ridiculous because jokic also played with isaiah thomas whos a 2time allstar and maybe even has allnba... not sure.
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The fact that multiple mvps haven’t been on all nba first team is kinda funny icl
u did dirty on david robinson
what did david robinson did to u that u have to subjectively gave that kind of treatment
Great
Moses Malone skipped college so KG is the second MVP is not go to college
I know the love on Rose and the vibes are incredible, but imagine if LeBron won 5 in a row, that’s the kind of domination unimaginable
10:48 and shaq still pissed
240th like, also didn't anyone realize he said Chris Bosh in the 09 mvp when Bosh didn't play for cavs
Chris Bosh was replaced by Mo Williams on the roster of the Eastern Conference All-Stars.
MVP is the only NBA award that is out of player control in NBA
you're wrong about KG. Moses was straight from high school to pros.
ABA counts as a different pro league
Bro jokic has played with DeAndre Jordan hasnt he ?
Didn’t Moses come straight outta HS?
into the ABA
Karl malone first player to have 13 threes
Bob McAdoo is not the youngest player anymore to hit 50 points and 20 boards right? Isn't it Luka?
Considering straight from high school athletes to win league MVP, does Moses Malone count? Or does his ABA tenure rule him out of this list?
Straight from high school to NBA
He was already a professional before going to the NBA.
I wondered about that too, but for Kevin Garnett it says "skip college and play in the NBA right out of high school" so the fact is correct. Malone skipped college and played in the ABA right out of high school and then the NBA.
A unanimous mvp is crazy
who snuck anthony bennett there
I LOL HARD AT EMBIID LOOOLLL
Jesus Christ loves you
The bob mcadoo one is not true, Anthony Davis achieved a 59 point 20 rebound game when he was just 22.
"at the time he was the first"
also while winning mvp. but I get what you mean
Moses Malone skipped college and won mvp. He did it before Kevin Garnett. Need a new fact for KG
Are you a david robinson hater??
Moses Malone came out of high school. KG isn’t the first
You clearly weren't listening.
@@bobhollywood4093 how so?
@@markgilbertjr413 Moses Malone didn't go to the NBA straight out of high school. He played in the aba before playing in the NBA.
@@bobhollywood4093 are we really getting into semantics vs intention?
@@markgilbertjr413 it's not semantics. Moses Malone didn't go to the NBA straight out of high school. I don't know why that bothers you.
Did Moses Malone go to college
Moses Malone won MVP and skipped college as well
He went to the aba first tho
at least put some respect on david robinson man. i really like ur videos and contents. but man, david robinson earned his mvp. he deserve it. u know that in playoffs its all back to zero.even mvp nowitzki lost to an 8 seed.
2023: First time in god knows how many years where the MVP award factored in color as a primary factor.
i can’t believe people are still coping with embiid winning the mvp by saying this 💀💀
According to bitter Pistons players, Larry Bird was overrated because he was white. They said if he was black, he'd be considered just another good player.
Derrick rose is scared of needles.
About the 1975 bob macadoo fact that is not true anymore because Luka is da goat
Wasn’t Moses Malone straight out of high school? Garnett isn’t the first HS mvp
No, Moses isn't.
You forgot 2024s nba mvp. Jokic
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Ol
Kobe only having 1 mvp is crazy
Bad timing.
During the first Lakers dynasty, Shaq was the main guy. During Kobe's scoring champion seasons, the Lakers were not contenders.
God the Embiid MVP was the saddest MVP "gift" ever. He even backed out of the "decider" battles him and jokic could of had before the end of the season. Stupid race obsessed media, we all know that was a factor. Along with the crying lol
Playing the "race card". 🙄
MVP race is narrative-based and voters like picking a new player/story. Even legends LeBron, Jordan, and Magic never won MVP 3x in a row.
The last 3x in a row MVP was Larry Bird in 1986!!
@@thebasketballhistorian3291 yes Perkins and multiple other commentators brought race into it. It's all well documented, obviously should of been otherwise it would of been Jokic.
The bshit voting for MVP has been evident for a decade for me... ive tried to look up certain past mvp votings and statleaders of that year etc.
But i never thought MJ would have been one of the players who got cheated out of multiple MVPs... and im not just looking at ppg.
When magic has kareem to pass to, its natural hes getting 10+ assists, who is jordan passing to, rookies Grant and Pippen!?!
Jordan in 89: 10 points more, a steal more, a block more and better fg%, he loses by 4 assists and a small FT% ... who cares about where your team placed.. its an individual award.
Jordan in 90: 11.5 points more, a steal, a block and way better fg%... again he loses by assists and small ft% only, hes even got more winshares!
91 jordan gets it and the only thing changed is: bulls have highest net rating and finish 1st.... after that they even beat LA in an almost sweep in the finals of playoffs.
So we can obviously see MVP voters weigh TEAM performance heavily... then look at embiid 2023... 76ers did F* all and embiid only had points and blocks over jokic, 12 other League leading stats went to the joker and so did team performance.... playoffs they even win the title, all of a sudden voters dont care about team seeding?.
so.... in 89 criteria is jordans team has a worse record, whats the criteria in 90 when even barkley gets more votes than jordan....again the team standing!?
This video proves my theory that bill russell is overrated
Embid fraud mvp
kobe was robbed
He was not, stop glazing
Nope. You're banking on nostalgia
he was,
U really don’t have to say RIP every time u mention a dead player
Joel Embiid is a fake MVP.
Bill russell most overrated player ever. We all know he aint doing anything without all his hof teammates
kobe had a few mvp seasons stolen from him. thats just fact