Marathon Might Be Priced At $40 - Luke Reacts

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  • @fightedmealready2692
    @fightedmealready2692 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +406

    Did Sony really think that everyone was going to just dedicate all their time to all these live service games all at once? It’s hard enough to stay up to date in even one of them these days

    • @zaster101
      @zaster101 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      no they just wanted to target several markets at once and the ones that were hits would get full support while ones that die are closed and studio refocused

    • @SubzeroBlack68
      @SubzeroBlack68 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      No. They were gonna throw as many darts at the board and see what sticks like Fortnite levels. All it takes is a single SUCCESSFUL Fortnite killer to make them infinite money. They want the peak of Battle Royales Hype to return but for their own game. Fortnite has generated like $25 BILLION last I checked. That makes the failures like Concord mean absolutely nothing. You could have 10 failed Concords and still be winning if you can create the next Fortnite.

    • @SubzeroBlack68
      @SubzeroBlack68 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@zaster101 Get out of my head and stealing my thoughts.

    • @stephenmisener1659
      @stephenmisener1659 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I dont even bother. Havent for years, i hear about games on youtube and sometimes check them out but usually not.

    • @fightedmealready2692
      @fightedmealready2692 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@zaster101 There’s no way that would have been a viable tactic even with the infinite cash at their disposal. If that’s the case then hot damn these people are ignorant

  • @dudebruh8534
    @dudebruh8534 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +326

    Concord: *DIES IN A FIRE SCREAMING*
    Bungie: Hey that looks fun!

    • @BlueBARv5
      @BlueBARv5 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      🤣 Funny!.... But keep in mind the difference between Bungie and Firewalk is night and day and let's not forget how much Bungie changed the gaming world forever with Halo..

    • @dudebruh8534
      @dudebruh8534 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      @@BlueBARv5 Let's also keep in mind that both these studios are still companies and the mass majority of OG halo developers aren't in Bungie anymore. So naw, I'll compare them.

    • @arthurchen6464
      @arthurchen6464 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Let's not overdramatize.
      Concord was shot point blank while still in the womb and then delivered straight into a woodchipper.

    • @OneTomato
      @OneTomato 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dudebruh8534 Believe me, bungie know exactly how to make a very profitable live service games, look destiny 1 and destiny 2

    • @BlueBARv5
      @BlueBARv5 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@dudebruh8534 Well Time will Tell?.. But I will admit if rumors are true that Bungie and Sony are fighting behind the scenes then I see the game launching in a bad state, But we will see if sony has a second Concord or a Hell Divers 2 scenario?

  • @jasonkeely7269
    @jasonkeely7269 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +128

    Helldivers was a PVE game in a market starved for good PVE games

    • @noamias4897
      @noamias4897 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      And in a unique setting with nothing really like it

    • @carlosianaasis7345
      @carlosianaasis7345 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      If they didn't fck Helldivers, game could've been their main service like csgo for steam, Fortnite for Epic game and Helldiver for playstation. They really fck it up with PSN account and Fcking REGION LOCK !!!!! for over 180+ countries !!!! wtffff.
      They have a bunch of LIve service upcoming, TBH the Helldiver was good enough and allocate their budget on Helldivers then focus on making single player games, when it comes to single player experience ,playstation is GOD tier.

  • @Phenylalanin1979
    @Phenylalanin1979 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +277

    Hear me out:
    - It's a Games as a Service game
    - It's a hero based shooter
    - It's from PlayStation
    - It's from an empty shell with a Bungie logo on it
    - It'll be late
    - That'll be $40 please

    • @dannysmi7162
      @dannysmi7162 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      “It’s a games as a service game” and I’m out. No need to the read the rest. The game is not for me.

    • @samhyatt4863
      @samhyatt4863 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@dannysmi7162so you’re opposed to games getting free DLC? noted

    • @constantinesoldatos
      @constantinesoldatos 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      @@samhyatt4863 Pretty sure he's simply opposed to most live service games being cheap cash grabs. I'd rather pay full price (which is what I do unless there's a sale) and get quality content. Most free DLC's are mediocre at best and a way to keep you playing hoping you'll spend money on mtx's. There are exceptions ofc.

    • @samhyatt4863
      @samhyatt4863 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@constantinesoldatos i agree, so tell that to everyone else commenting on this video that the $40 price point sucks “because concord”

    • @markoliver314
      @markoliver314 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@samhyatt4863 What free DLC. You still gonna have to pay battle pass or season pass…

  • @TheChrisLouis
    @TheChrisLouis 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +70

    And im 100% checked out.
    $40 with tons of micros. Just like Destiny 2 before f2p.

    • @lionzcrown1702
      @lionzcrown1702 วันที่ผ่านมา

      tbf, concord was a 40 dollar game WITHOUT a bunch of micros. at all.

  • @SaltyFrosticles
    @SaltyFrosticles 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    They're not getting anymore money from me. Pissed away D2 to incubate 5 products nobody asked for.

    • @kellywilson137
      @kellywilson137 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      From the outside looking in, It was funny looking at the D2 community saying the last Xpac was Peak.
      The Witness doesn't look cool or threatening, He looks Pixar Cute with the big round eyes he was given.
      I always thought Oryx was the most Destiny looking BBEG.

    • @StevosMfDen
      @StevosMfDen 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      D2 wasn't doing to hot to begin with unfortunately I pissed away $400 year one for very little content.

    • @cyd_hunter99
      @cyd_hunter99 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@kellywilson137 Listen, man, I get what you're trying to say here. But you describing the Witness as non-threatening is literally the point of his design. Cool is subjective, you can say it isn't, I can say it is, we'll be here all night and nothing will change. But non-threatening? Yes. That was literally the point. That's their character. Their whole fucking thing is that they will calmly, level-headedly explain to you why you and the entire universe should die, and still seem like such a calm and reasonable person that you're almost inclined to agree with them.
      Also, if the design of a single character is your metric of a game being fun then I think you really need reevaluate your priorities.
      There are SO many things to roast Destiny for. This isn't one of them.

  • @DarthBobCat
    @DarthBobCat 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +174

    "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?"

    • @IamL3gion
      @IamL3gion 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I love young people

    • @D4C_LoveTrain1
      @D4C_LoveTrain1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@IamL3gionI hope you don't upload Minecraft videos.

    • @AlphaMachina
      @AlphaMachina 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      More times than this, apparently, because this isn't even close to being a full list:
      Redfall
      Anthem
      Skull and Bones
      Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
      Marvel's Avengers
      Hyperspace
      Evolve
      Foamstars
      Radical Heights
      Paragon
      Red Dead Online
      Battlefield 2042
      Crucible
      Concord
      XDefiant
      Lawbreakers

    • @zombl337og
      @zombl337og 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@AlphaMachina Halo Infinite

    • @dmytrosoboliev935
      @dmytrosoboliev935 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Gotham knights​@@AlphaMachina

  • @dustinj11977
    @dustinj11977 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    The biggest problem with Marathon is going to be the high expectations. It doesn't matter if the game comes out at $40, free, good, or bad it's still going to be sold as "Brought to you by the studio that brought you Halo and Destiny (even tho Bungie was already a shell of their former selves even by the time D1 even released)". Its an uphill battle that was hard enough to deal with because of the genre, but now they are dealing with the sentiment of their handling with Destiny over the past 10 years.

    • @THUGPUTIN
      @THUGPUTIN 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep... 😂
      It has to be different and engaging... If it just regular game set in different futuristic setting, it won't work for $40, maybe for free+microtransaction...

    • @PsychKingler
      @PsychKingler 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The name doesn't do it any favors

  • @Tacitus_kilgore_1903
    @Tacitus_kilgore_1903 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    I've been saying since it was revealed, Sony was making 12 live service games...NONE of these games are going to be free to play, not a single one they're all going cost money... sony sees everything they shit out as a premium product regardless of reality and are charging for it

  • @TheCasualSubculturist
    @TheCasualSubculturist 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +121

    40 dollars in AAA produced live service game, doesn't this reminds you of certain game not too long ago?

    • @jasonnchuleft894
      @jasonnchuleft894 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Not sure which game you might be referring to, but did it concord by any chance? 🤣

    • @MrLabraiki
      @MrLabraiki 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@TheCasualSubculturist
      Well Helldivers was also at the same price and you know how that took off !
      Price is not the issue if the game is good / fun

    • @marcusorban2439
      @marcusorban2439 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The thing is, it was Helldiver 2 (TWO), the 2nd one... Ppl knew what this game was about. New IPs dont have that luxury

    • @jasonnchuleft894
      @jasonnchuleft894 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@MrLabraiki Helldivers 2 was a novel experience and above all else a PVE-only coop game you could play solo (which a lot of people actually did). So essentially all it needed to take off was one player with enough reach having fun. A competitive multiplayer-only game has much higher hurdles to clear to build the necessary community needed to sustain itself.

    • @ApsmneShsbshu
      @ApsmneShsbshu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Helldivers 2?

  • @8BitDeadlift
    @8BitDeadlift 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Why have one catastrophic failure when you can have two

    • @johansvensson833
      @johansvensson833 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      face it without live service , single player games do not exist(tencent own wukong)

    • @siren_atlantica
      @siren_atlantica 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johansvensson833 what does this even mean

    • @heinrichzemo3766
      @heinrichzemo3766 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johansvensson833 what is this retarded logic?

    • @kodo2795
      @kodo2795 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@siren_atlantica Dude is implying that studios need successful live service games in order to fund the development of single-player games. Pretty brain-dead take.

  • @NostalgiaNet8
    @NostalgiaNet8 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    I'm convinced since the new leadership, they're just wanting these Live service games to fizzle. Remember it was Jim Ryan who pushed for Live service.

    • @dr.rooney7653
      @dr.rooney7653 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Why would that make any sense?Successful live service games make the most money out of any games being released.

    • @LM-nb7rj
      @LM-nb7rj 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dr.rooney7653 but if they flop, then you're out hundreds of millions of dollars. That's not sustainable for a business

    • @captaindestruction9332
      @captaindestruction9332 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dr.rooney7653 It allows them to change direction with little to no friction from others on the board/shareholders. Yes they want at least one or two successful live service games but they would much prefer things to go back to live service or multiplayer games not being the main focus of the company over single player story drivin games.

    • @fortniteisexpensive
      @fortniteisexpensive 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@NostalgiaNet8 i thought this was obvious and already confirmed around late last year

    • @NostalgiaNet8
      @NostalgiaNet8 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Concord was in development for 8 years. The landscape was so much different back then, and just because it's Live-service, doesn't mean it'll be successful, weather free or paid. More Live-service titles fail than succeed. ​@@dr.rooney7653

  • @Waltersop
    @Waltersop 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +98

    Im genuinely happy that bad products are failing over and over again.

    • @Bro-dot-
      @Bro-dot- 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As genuinely bad products always really do.

    • @commanderwyro4204
      @commanderwyro4204 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Bro-dot- not really. they usually last 1-2 years before imploding. making more then enough money to warrant more dog shit. not were seeing games take Huge Ls before they even have a release date. this is the first time ive seen gamers have this much momentum for change

    • @fr0ck360
      @fr0ck360 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Bro-dot- Tell that to Overwatch 2 and Diablo 4

    • @zartic4life
      @zartic4life 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which is why "free" Diablo Immortal has has made over two billion dollars in "micro"-transactions since release.

    • @Bro-dot-
      @Bro-dot- วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fr0ck360 Clearly they’re not genuinely bad though, comparing games like that to games like concord, gollum and etc is beyond a stretch. They both still have the skeleton of their predecessors (OW 2 is just OW 1 anyway), people can still have fun in them even if plenty of the audience have conflicting views on the game.
      Plenty people had fun with Diablo 4 and many of my friends/ pros still play OW. They are only perceived bad because they could be much much better and there is bias when looking at anything blizzard but they are not “bad products” in the same sense.

  • @travis8106
    @travis8106 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Marathon needs to take a risk. If they play it safe, it will flop. We need something new and exciting.

    • @ContrastCopy
      @ContrastCopy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      At the very least, the art style looks quite interesting.

    • @Trymeplays
      @Trymeplays 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The difference for me with this and other extractions is that what am I extracting towards or not that but "is it fun to keep playing even if I lose".

  • @BB-pb3hv
    @BB-pb3hv 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

    Well there is still room in the grave next to Concord..

    • @Exzimius
      @Exzimius 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Well concord was so young it didn't have time to grow into it.

    • @boitmecklyn4995
      @boitmecklyn4995 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      there's no grave cos it got cremated from all the internet roasting.

    • @dmytrosoboliev935
      @dmytrosoboliev935 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Lawbreakers right from it like: "Your first time?"

    • @reddickfloboy
      @reddickfloboy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂😂😂

    • @Kenichitr
      @Kenichitr วันที่ผ่านมา

      Isn't that for Fairgame$?

  • @343Films
    @343Films 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +133

    Concord didn't fail because it was $40. It failed because it was hot garbage. Battlefield 2042 didn't fail because it was $60. It failed because it was hot, broken garbage. Marathon will fail or succeed *entirely* based on how fun and engaging the game is. That's it.

    • @panzer00
      @panzer00 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      And yet, there is a market for Battlefield.

    • @dudebruh8534
      @dudebruh8534 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      Concord's price tag was one of the many reasons it failed, but nonetheless adding a price tag on these types of games is 1 one wall stopping people from playing it. If Bungie has a live demonstration showing them the consequences of doing this and they still go with it, then they have nobody but themselves to blame. Period.

    • @squand3r
      @squand3r 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Wonderful statement, finally a pragmatic comment that is not fueled with self-absorption

    • @PhilM4
      @PhilM4 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It was not garbage. I played the beta and alpha. It was a great time.

    • @davidarco6127
      @davidarco6127 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you

  • @GavinR-qj7ot
    @GavinR-qj7ot 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    They killed Destiny for this shit 😢

  • @cryptotic5257
    @cryptotic5257 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    Whether it is $40 or not it’s going to be a live service filled with microtransactions and expiring battle passes so I would rather have it be F2p

    • @krazyd0nut404
      @krazyd0nut404 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Just so sony can charge there userbase another $80 a year just play it online for there console.

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@krazyd0nut404live service games are free to play online..

  • @ShinjiIkari007
    @ShinjiIkari007 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    Remember I called it first in one of your previous videos
    Marathon is Concord 3.0

    • @gloriousgooferz3545
      @gloriousgooferz3545 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      fr

    • @archersterling6726
      @archersterling6726 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      2.0 fairgames?

    • @ShinjiIkari007
      @ShinjiIkari007 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@archersterling6726ofc 😂

    • @captaindestruction9332
      @captaindestruction9332 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Except it will probably do better because the character design and gameplay will be better. The two things that drug down Concord.

    • @captainRogue41
      @captainRogue41 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@archersterling6726*fairgame$ 😂😂😂

  • @brandonreyes7113
    @brandonreyes7113 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    Oh god if you see a $40 online live service game run the other way

    • @noamias4897
      @noamias4897 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Nah Helldivers is fun and the community engagement was awesome

    • @JimBobe
      @JimBobe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Helldivers 2?

  • @impactsuit9871
    @impactsuit9871 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Competing with fairgame$ to be the next concord.

  • @Desu-Desu-Chan-San
    @Desu-Desu-Chan-San 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Escape from Tarkov with a Bungie twist?
    Sooo what you are saying is that you will delete things I paid for, then lock people out of current content when they do not buy the new thing?

    • @TheChrisLouis
      @TheChrisLouis 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I mean... They did that with Destiny 2 so I'm sure they will do it with Marathon if they feel like it.

    • @Desu-Desu-Chan-San
      @Desu-Desu-Chan-San 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheChrisLouis Yeah, I wound up ditching the game over that crap.

  • @someguy3595
    @someguy3595 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    Bungie is making the sequel to brink

  • @SIlverbullet108
    @SIlverbullet108 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I think the moment Sony priced its PS5 pro it lost an enormous chunk of goodwill from gamers that it's not going to get back before a long time. In that atmosphere, pricing Marathon at 40$ sounds like a suicide for that game to me.

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not really.. its a premium console at a premium price... what a bigger joke is the xbox midgen refresh 2tb all digital system for $600 or the series x galaxy 2tb for $600 for $100 more you can get a much better system. And try building a pc with equivalent specs to the pro.. my 4070 cost me £525 Which is said to be the same power as the pro..

    • @zyblurish206
      @zyblurish206 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tristman8413 for that comparison to be fair you will have to compare unreleased hardware with unreleased GPUs because both the PS5 Pro is coming soon but so are Nvidia's and AMDs GPUs and in raster performance the 7700xt is the equivalent right now which may have the disadvantage in rt and temporarily in ai upscaling (until FSR 4 releases which was already announced even though you can technically use XeSS on AMD GPUs which is AI Upscaling) but it has the advantage of Frame Gen which makes it achieve higher frame rates in any game it wants thanks to FSR3 or AFMF2 with the added advantage of being paired with a potentially better CPU. Now you can get a 7700xt for around 400 and a 7600 for around 200 and you will still be below the price of the ps5 pro with better hardware and if you want to get a stand and a disc drive it gets very close to a decent full build of a "equivalent PC".
      I know that DF said the 4070 is the equivalent right now but that is only if you ignore the full feature set of PCs and that would be a unfair disadvantage when PC simply has more ways to improve performance especially if a feature that's ignored almost doubles frame rates.

    • @Shredder1400
      @Shredder1400 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tristman8413well, with the Pro staying at a Zen 2 processor, it’s not gonna do much more than the base PS5 except look a little nicer. You might as well just buy a PC at that point. I built mine around $750 two years ago (Ryzen 7 5800x and RX 6700XT).

  • @heroicgangster9981
    @heroicgangster9981 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    $40 for a live service entry of a game that doesn't have the SOULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL of a game franchise that was built on old Macintosh's

    • @kevinconley7429
      @kevinconley7429 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So tell good sir how many hour of marathon do you have put into it, also how does the shooting mechanics feel seeing how you know so much about this soullllllllllllllll less game

    • @TheMetalfreak360
      @TheMetalfreak360 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@kevinconley7429It is just what people expect from Bungie as of late. They have fallen far from grace.

    • @devinbonham3022
      @devinbonham3022 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kevinconley7429 marathon was actually really good and played like doom with a story that was similar to halo but both are extremely based on the book called Ringworld.

    • @jediflip2515
      @jediflip2515 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@kevinconley7429 live service games are souless. The entire point of the business model is to siphon as much money out of players as possible.

    • @jawsofwar
      @jawsofwar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Marathon 2 was my second fps shooter I had a Mac. Other than the name this game has nothing resembling it.

  • @silvialuzmia
    @silvialuzmia 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    $40? yup you already lost 90% of asian player-
    no one want to pay for access here, would rather buy skins

    • @silvialuzmia
      @silvialuzmia 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Free to Play success because normie, like me, try game for fun and got hooked-
      I started playing game and my first game was Team Fortress 2 in 2018.. I spend 1k hours...
      I bought a ton of hats & war paint from the market, buy the premium to play competitive, heck even bought all valve game at full price because I don't know steam sale is a thing... and here I am, in gaming sphere bcus of free 2 play

    • @silvialuzmia
      @silvialuzmia 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Back then it hit me like a truck knowing valve don't update any of their game anymore..

    • @johansvensson833
      @johansvensson833 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      nope china spend billions on microtransactions

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      'Rather buy skins' skins are the most stupid micro transaction ever! It literally doesn't alter the game mechanics at all... the day I buy a battle pass or a skin is the day I retire from gaming.

    • @panzershreck8077
      @panzershreck8077 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@tristman8413 He did specifically state the asian market. They treat alot of games like they're all in the mobile gaming market lol

  • @Brubrukk
    @Brubrukk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Sony, I dare you to release Marathon at $40.

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They've charged 40 bucks for most of their gaas games...

  • @Yewrenegade
    @Yewrenegade 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    "priced at $40" excuse me bungie, are you trying to go for the concord route? Instant fail immediately if you think thats the case

  • @Xoulrath_
    @Xoulrath_ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I saw Marathon in the title and thought to myself, "Didn't this game already get shut down? Oh right, that was Concord." 😂
    These games are all so similar in almost every way, that I can't even keep up anymore. Nor do I care to. I'll continue to play my massive backlog of physical games that I actually own, that can be played offline, thanks.

    • @JordanRA
      @JordanRA 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm with you my friend lol. I avoid pvp like the plague nowadays anyway so I'm just sitting back and watching all these failure fireworks and it's pretty entertaining 😂. I feel bad for the wasted time and effort on some devs end, that does suck since it's mostly thanks to the higher ups commitment to being greedy blind assholes, but yeah.

  • @0o-0o694
    @0o-0o694 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Im not gonna pay 40 bucks for a game by a studio who has no idea how to make a pvp game. Bungie is dead. The people who made halo are gone. Now we have these worthless losses who couldn't program a bucket, let alone a quality pvp game.

    • @JordanRA
      @JordanRA 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I just don't play pvp games anymore period 😂. I can't believe they are really considering going for a Concord 2.0 and competing with fairgames for trying to top how badly it will flop. Sony's commitment to live service was a dire mistake

  • @BoBurnham69
    @BoBurnham69 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Im gonna have a BLAST watching this Concord 2.0 fail even harder lmfao good times

  • @Esauofisaac
    @Esauofisaac 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN?!

  • @PytorDukiv
    @PytorDukiv 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Price wasn't the primary reason concord failed. Space Marine 2 came out and demonstrated it's not about price. Black Myth Wukong did the same. This is a cope defense.

    • @DeShawnMcDonald
      @DeShawnMcDonald 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The shills are running over time to act like concord didn't get killed by the same "its" that killed saints row and a shit ton of other great franchises and made trash like dustborn

    • @jawsofwar
      @jawsofwar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It’s because they don’t want to mention that the game failed because it’s bad to hurt their friends feelings that worked on the game. It also can’t be that people weren’t interested in trying the game because the characters were so ugly and off-putting… 😂

  • @slowestdespacitov8207
    @slowestdespacitov8207 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Hunts DLC is just cosmetics, like hunter skins and weapon skins is something that should be stated so ppl dont get the wrong idea about the game

  • @marcustmusic
    @marcustmusic 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Something I’ve noticed about live-service games is they expect you to pay forever but they won’t solve the hacker issues or properly pair certain skill levels with each other. Every one I’ve tried and played has terrible hacking culture and/or terrible skill based matchmaking. I can feel that I’m playing in a lobby with try hard or faster internet connections or have different controller methods than me. It’s been like this forever in every single game with an online component that I avoid live service or online multiplayer like a plague.
    Not to mention every single game needs to be a live service shooter, I wouldn’t be surprised if Nintendo comes out with a Mario shooter in the next 3-5 years.

  • @micheljolicoeur6094
    @micheljolicoeur6094 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Tarhkov players were not happy with Marathon playtest. Doubling down on $40 price point in a crowded Free to play market.
    You also cannot forget the mandatory PSN linking requirement.

  • @marron5272
    @marron5272 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Sony needs a set at the Apollo because the comedy writes itself

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Game company charges for game it spent years developing... 🤔

  • @nerobiblios4086
    @nerobiblios4086 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The $40 price of Concord was a factor in it's failure sure, but people grossly overemphasize it. People WILL pay for a good game, be it $40 or $60, so long as the game is good to great people will justify the price of their purchases however they can.
    I say this because during the FREE beta access where anyone could play the game, it wasn't much of a difference in player population. The most free point the game ever was, and people didn't care all that much more than when it was $40.

  • @ChimpOnComputer
    @ChimpOnComputer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    $40 price tag is not an issue at all, what is the biggest problem is THE GAME.

  • @SamiGodHater
    @SamiGodHater 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Anyone who has played destiny 2 knows exactly where this is going. Soon, bungie, too, will be sunset.

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Destiny 2 sold over 38m copies and generated 200m a year... not quite a flop

    • @jawsofwar
      @jawsofwar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@tristman8413 it is 2024 and the game is doing so well that bungie is doing massive layoffs…

  • @razlo3690
    @razlo3690 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Who even asked bungie for an extraction shooter

    • @TheChrisLouis
      @TheChrisLouis 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Bungie did...

    • @krazyd0nut404
      @krazyd0nut404 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Just like bungie gay dlc story no one ask for.

  • @michaelAnonymous
    @michaelAnonymous 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bungie: Into the Eververse Store Simulator 3 will be the pinnacle of AAAA gaming.

  • @XionSteel
    @XionSteel 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The 40$ price tag wasn't the complete problem per se, people just saw the 40$ price when the free open beta barely got 2k players and that made it look like straight up cockiness on Sony's side. Now that 40$ price point is a stigma for them going forward. Ultimately, it might not be that unfair of a price, but people see it as them double dipping due to greed and that is the problem. It's going to affect Marathon, its going to affect any game they sell going forward, all because of Concord.

  • @Arcademan09
    @Arcademan09 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I hope its true because Sony and Bungie need to be taught a valuable lesson: gamers decide what they spend their time and money on, not the "modern audience"

    • @johansvensson833
      @johansvensson833 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      but dude "modern audience" spend the money not gamers

    • @Arcademan09
      @Arcademan09 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johansvensson833 tell that to Concord

  • @evansinclair1999
    @evansinclair1999 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Not to be a doom and gloom chronic online guy I totally understood Luke’s point but it’s interesting how many gaming TH-camrs, people that usually never mention anything about politics or society trends have increasingly unintentionally been mentioning politics in their videos, idk it gives me an uneasy feeling, like things are going so crazy so fast that it’s getting hard to not notice it even in a like Stephen’s live video :/

  • @bartonlynch
    @bartonlynch 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If Sony/Bungie charges 40$ and on top requires a PS+ account to play it, Marathon DOA for sure.

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pretty sure live service games don't require psn to play them 🤔

    • @bartonlynch
      @bartonlynch 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@tristman8413 CONCORD did, so does Destiny, all under Sony so I guess it's a safe bet Marathon will too.

  • @billyhunter144
    @billyhunter144 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Another Sony DOA

    • @Naxiwuno
      @Naxiwuno 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How can you be sure about that? U don't even saw single gameplay from it :D

    • @sergioajbs1840
      @sergioajbs1840 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      After Concord, expect it to be DOA, Bungie lost its touch.

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bungie made it and were making it before Sony bought them.. That's like saying starfield flopped because of xbox

  • @harryallsopp9136
    @harryallsopp9136 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "We asked the guys who think its reasonable to charge $35 for a poorly made tshirt no one in their right mind would wear outside and they said $40 was good"

  • @RichmenInc
    @RichmenInc 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    If it good its good. Money well spend. If its sux its wasted money.
    Asking money for a product is just normal. People being outraged for them asking for money is just crazy.
    People being customed to have everything for free. Is so entitled.
    Concord wasn't a good game. If it was a 9/10 game people would pay for it.
    Its that simple.

    • @fortniteisexpensive
      @fortniteisexpensive 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      youre saying the truth no one wants to hear lol

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💯

    • @cunningpanda
      @cunningpanda 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      These people assuming everything should be free because they want it to be free is more annoying.

  • @GotrekGurnisson
    @GotrekGurnisson 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Hunt is ONLY cosmetics dlc. All playable content is with game purchase

    • @siren_atlantica
      @siren_atlantica 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's sad that this is seen as a positive. Go back a few years and every game had cosmetics for free. Look at old cods, every skin, banner, pfp and attachment earn able through gameplay. Now you pay a premium for a non premium product

    • @xkepakko
      @xkepakko 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@siren_atlantica There is also skins you can earn for free, but the truth is that you have to have some cash income to keep the servers up and running and people at work making content.

  • @SamuraiMotoko
    @SamuraiMotoko 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They could get away with 40 bucks... But the game have to look really really cool and fun.

  • @PervySage723
    @PervySage723 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They need to realize only call of duty gets away with these prices now

  • @noamias4897
    @noamias4897 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have heard from my best friend whose sibling works at Arrowhead that Helldivers 2 sold 50x more than Sony expected in the first month.

  • @dpgwalter
    @dpgwalter 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As much as I do think F2P is where online shooters should live, it’s kinda lame that the current state of gaming pushes publishers to do it or fail, even if it doesn’t make sense. I’d much rather have a €40 2018 Overwatch experience than a F2P 2024 Overwatch 2, but if they came out with the prior now it would fail before it would even be remembered.

  • @devilselbow
    @devilselbow 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Pretty sure I've seen this movie before

  • @happydog3422
    @happydog3422 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The problem with pricing Marathon at 40 dollars is the first thing you think of is Concord, and the last thing you want is for people to think of a failed game when trying to push your new one.

  • @GreenBro11
    @GreenBro11 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Can we please get a break from chasing these infinite money generating live service games?

    • @GamingwTallenV
      @GamingwTallenV 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Get everyone to buy single player games even it’s a 7 or 8 game, then we could start.

    • @Bro-dot-
      @Bro-dot- 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GamingwTallenV Time to buy Star Wars outlaws I guess.

    • @GamingwTallenV
      @GamingwTallenV 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Bro-dot- not necessarily. It’s buying good games when they release. Your Astro bots and such. Another part I should have mentioned is NOT BUYING micro transitions like costumes and such. That’s where they make all their money

    • @Bro-dot-
      @Bro-dot- 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GamingwTallenV You just said it’s buying good games then said “even if they are a 7-8”. Is 7-8 is considered good then Star Wars outlaws qualifies as that since it averages around the 7 range.

    • @GamingwTallenV
      @GamingwTallenV 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Bro-dot- obviously still do your research. What I’m trying to say is players should not just pass a game because it has a 7.
      Some might have to wait for sales or buy later. Which is totally fine. But there is a notion that a 7 is a bad game automatically. That has to stop.

  • @MetalGoatSolid
    @MetalGoatSolid 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Oh dear

  • @DakotaRose2546
    @DakotaRose2546 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Bungie is already infamous with aggressive predatory mtx in Destiny 2, so I can't see them leaving Marathon mtx free.

  • @americanmack30
    @americanmack30 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sony is losing me as a customer and it has nothing to do with this turd game

  • @colinwhitlock5148
    @colinwhitlock5148 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The maps ARE the game. Bungie has struggled to make pvp maps for years and $40 for two maps won't get picked up by anyone

  • @stanley13579
    @stanley13579 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yesss, do it Sony!! Release it at $40!! MAKE IT $50, I PROMISE I'LL BUY TEN COPIES! 😆

  • @TheRobotAssassin
    @TheRobotAssassin วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    CONCORD 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO

  • @SPECTRA_87
    @SPECTRA_87 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    $40 for Helldivers worked because it was a sequel to an indie game that was $20/30 at launch (9 years ago). I love both Divers, but they are AA at best.

  • @atames1
    @atames1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's going to be sad seeing bungie get shut down after this game flops.

  • @that80ssongyoulove84
    @that80ssongyoulove84 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The only way $40 will work is if it brings something unique and fresh from the typical F2P. Helldivers 2 release is an example of this.

  • @thsudy
    @thsudy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    When I heard it did Not have a Campaign. I immediately lost interest in it.

  • @side7oldtype298
    @side7oldtype298 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And don't forget, their region lock shenanigans is still in effect to 180 countries so it's not a surprise when the player count is low on launch.

  • @MechaMan2012
    @MechaMan2012 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was laughing to myself when Concord was $40 and there were people saying "I'd rather pay the money and get the complete experience." Even though they said no to battle passes, there were multiple indications that there was going to be plenty of MTX's still, especially considering what the game was wanting to do. I'm not sure why some people were thinking that was going to be a complete experience.

  • @MrUploader14
    @MrUploader14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    it seems Sony didn't learn their lesson from Concord. the reason it worked for helldivers was because it was a coop horde shooter in a market that was starved for it the only good game in the genre was left4dead and that is an over 10 year old game.

    • @johansvensson833
      @johansvensson833 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes they did trye and try again until we have one that works

  • @FinnFann
    @FinnFann 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sony: Lets release multiple games in an overloaded genre that missed the boat all at once!
    Everyone knows that competing with yourself is clearly the best strategy.

  • @TRUEMIXEDBLOOD
    @TRUEMIXEDBLOOD วันที่ผ่านมา

    If the price point was the primary reason, the free beta would have peaked at 500k players.

  • @DrivingGod21
    @DrivingGod21 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watching history repeat itself over, and over, and over, again is like living in a terrifying fever dream. Get me out of this timeline. Please.

  • @zerotenno5267
    @zerotenno5267 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Oh shit here we go again

  • @rtuumm
    @rtuumm 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    $40 is not bad, idk why people flip out on it.
    the bigger problem is, are devs giving us a complete content filled well made game?
    or is it a beta test with the game only getting good a year and a half later with many patches/updates/and dlc.

  • @megamandrn001
    @megamandrn001 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    40$ is fine as long as it stands out and looks incredible. They need to show gameplay asap though

  • @FluxCrush
    @FluxCrush 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The good news is that its still early on enough they can start the switch from paid to free to play business model, if it is true they were going to charge $40

  • @acecarwell471
    @acecarwell471 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t often comment when it’s a good video, and I agree with you. I just smash like. Just felt compelled to let you know, like 98% of the time, informational and good points. Thanks everyone who helps make these. Much love ❤

  • @rbrick3685
    @rbrick3685 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If this game was PVE Tarkov-Like, with a separate PVP mode, and was more story focused AND with an offline mode, I would spend $40. I might even spend $60!

  • @splashydiamond
    @splashydiamond 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gamers will let this and fairgames flop just because we like it. We are good at it. We feel alive.

  • @chrispoici666
    @chrispoici666 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ubisoft: Speedruning banckruptcie with their bad greedy decisions
    Sony: Aint no way im letting them win this marathon

  • @BobBillies
    @BobBillies 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Marathon" is a pretty good title for game running head first into an open grave

  • @bilson7523
    @bilson7523 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hear what you're saying, and yes, the only reason this has a chance is because the specific style of live service isnt F2P; however, I still think this game will hinge on mtx.
    If I were Sony, I'd really dial back the mtx out the gate. Put in a lot of content for the money, build up some good will like Warframe did in several years ago.

  • @z28yeti
    @z28yeti 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd rather it cost money and be good, than be free and have blueberries ruining it. Helldivers, Hell let loose, Showdown the Hunt, Tarkov, Pubg, Fortnite, Overwatch, all these games cost money, or cost money on launch. That was GOOD. Please remember costing money is a barrier to the turds.

  • @wonderbat1618
    @wonderbat1618 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Next year would be an interesting year for extraction shooters. Not talking in terms of gameplay, but how the games are perceived since there’s another 40 dollar extraction shooter game coming out in the form of Arc Raiders, also coming out in 2025.

  • @WastedCarnage
    @WastedCarnage 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would love to see a marathon of failed companies making fail services.

  • @1991KingLeo
    @1991KingLeo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why bother with Marathon
    “Hey folks we hear your complaints about Destiny 2, all the stuff you want. Well it’s going to this game instead”
    Just for them to probably give it the same treatment of Destiny 2, change nothing. Have us battle the same enemies over and over (this time it’s other players) with reskin armor and weapons added as new.

  • @jurpils
    @jurpils 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sony prices these games $40 not instead of 0 but instead of 60-70. And they think they are good guys for doing it, but somehow gamers don't see it

  • @benitomejia03
    @benitomejia03 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m honestly fine with the price tag, it just has to be fun, distinguishable, and worth it

  • @Mrignorantperson
    @Mrignorantperson 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    by the end of next year the gaming landscape will look a lot different lmaoo

  • @agirlnamedmichael1670
    @agirlnamedmichael1670 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    40 dollar launch price, announcement of a new Destiny for mobile- they are out of their damn minds. Bungie will run it like a live service game with all the in-game shop crap we've all come to loathe and despise. This is definitely a "controlled leak". Marathon sounds exactly like it's a rip off of The Finals. I'll play it if it's ftp. I won't risk 40 bucks of my hard-earned money to pay for it though. I say what happened with Concord, and I know how Bungie works. I don't trust them as far as I can throw them.

  • @yahootube90
    @yahootube90 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not going to lie, I sort of through Marathon was getting cancelled with all the Bungie struggles and layoffs.

  • @HGRAP1
    @HGRAP1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Crazy to think Sony could have use the $700+ million they spent on Marathon and Concord to buy GTA 6 exclusivity for a year, and that be a better financial decision than two AAA exclusives from in-house studios.

    • @johansvensson833
      @johansvensson833 วันที่ผ่านมา

      never going to happen that would destroy both sony and rockstar

  • @ckaldariaq5904
    @ckaldariaq5904 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The best marketing is honestly no marketing. When people underestimate a game an its good it will spread via word of mouth and social media like helldivers did.

  • @TheGamingRaccoons
    @TheGamingRaccoons 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To be fair Sonys plan to “throw random shit at a wall and see what sticks” with these $40 live service games has been a 50/50 success rate lol

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      50/50? The only one that had success was helldivers 2.
      Playstation all-stars, Concord that splatoony rip-off all flopped.. I love Playstation and hope they stop making them

    • @TheGamingRaccoons
      @TheGamingRaccoons 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tristman8413 50/50 as helldivers was a huge success while but concord was a huge fail those have been the only 2 games that have been part of Sonys “plan” that I was talking about.

  • @TiredEyeBags
    @TiredEyeBags วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hunt is $30 and all the dlc are just skins. The characters don't have any special ability or any difference. They are all just skins. So comparing marathon to Hunt makes no sense haha

  • @PeteDingerton
    @PeteDingerton วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bungie : there will be no layoffs after the Sony acquisition 😂

  • @joshuadavis2175
    @joshuadavis2175 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm so glad that helldivers 2 is buffing everything tomorrow 😂

    • @johansvensson833
      @johansvensson833 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      not a sony IP

    • @tristman8413
      @tristman8413 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@johansvensson833helldivers is a Sony ip... based off of starship troopers which is also a Sony ip

  • @vvitch-mist20
    @vvitch-mist20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If they stopped with the CEO pay, and maybe not spend 500 million dollars on a game, they wouldn't be suffering rn.

  • @YoutubeCommentor1
    @YoutubeCommentor1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Meanwhile another upcoming extraction shooter, Forever Winter, announced going early access awhile ago and are pricing it under 30$, it's very telling when a large company like Sony doesn't see how they keep tripping over themselves.