Fury needs a knockout, otherwise Usyk will keep the pace up and eventually overwhelm him. The only other way Fury wins is if Usyk does a victory lap and arrive unprepared.
I agree and I think unless he catches usyk the cleanest and hardest he's ever thrown a punch its not happening, simply doesn't have that sort of power, even more so against someone like usyk
Disagree. Usyk won 9 rounds with a knockdown and got a split decision. If Usyk doesn’t get that knockdown he would have won 9 rounds 8 absolute minimum if you’re generous to fury and would have lost on the cards. Fury basically has to win 5 rounds avoid getting dropped or embarrassed and they’ll give it to him. Usyk needs a KO or the most dominant 12 round hiding you’ve ever seen in your life.
His age, lack of commitment to the boxing life, and his lack of strong opposition has degraded what used to be sublime footwork into this really labored style that resembles Wladimir Klitschko (which makes sense with having Sugar Hill as a trainer) if Wlad was out of shape. Against Usyk, that style does not work. I’ll be surprised if this fight happens at all, though. Fully expect a Fury pull out any week now.
@@jkbtw293 didn’t say he wasn’t, but Fury is still not a young boxer and has done a lot more damage to his body with the massive fluctuations in weight along with all the periods of inactivity coupled with unhealthy eating habits. The drugs and alcohol certainly haven’t helped over the years too.
I'd say you're right. It took years to arrange the first fight because of team tf ducking and outpricing himself. As if he's going to enter the ring against someone he knows is likely to beat him again.
@@captaintruth doesn’t take being an armchair fan to see that when two people gifted with otherworldly talent that approaches the limit of athleticism in the realm of boxing, the advantage is going to go to the person who shows consistency and commitment to improvement. For what it’s worth, I like Fury, and against just about any other fighter, I’d very well pick him because his God-given abilities outmatches anyone else’s best effort. The only exception being a guy who also has God-given abilities but is more disciplined in his practice. I believe Usyk is that guy.
Idk why its only now ppl started questioning furys resume. I been questioning it for yrs now. Wilder, klitschko, whyte and wallin and usyk who dominated their match outside of rounds 4-7. That's piss poor for someone claiming to be the best of his ers when u barely fought anyone in ur era. Out of this era of heavyweights the best resumes are honestly Usyk, AJ and Joseph parker.
The thing is, if you're Usyk, the gameplan is basically to do the exact same thing as you did the first time. I think that Tyson Fury can make more adjustments to try to win the rematch. Not saying that he'll make the right adjustments, but he's more versatile and could take more risks than Usyk as the bigger man and now with no undefeated record to protect.
Kinda sucks that if Fury does win, I dont think he'll give Usyk a third fight. I can see him brushing off the first fight as some sort of fluke, then either go on to AJ or "retire" again.
I rewatched the first fight and came to the conclusion that the fight swung in the 8th round, when Fury switched off and stood stock still while Usyk smashed him in the face and broke his nose. If Fury hadn't switched off, I reckon he would have won. I think a lot of people have hate for Fury, or are overly biased towards Usyk. Having said that, there's a strong possibility he could switch off again in the 2nd fight.
It seems after the KD and Fury's obnoxious personality, people have retroactively rewritten the fight in their minds. There was a fair period where his huge reach advantage was keeping Usyk out of the fight. He still lost an SD with a KD included. Yes, he can win the rematch. Though so can Usyk, obviously.
@@SuperKamiGuruuhe means beating the guy that beat you to take the title back. Which in itself is rare, but I don’t think it’s happened for Undisputed heavyweights.
@@SuperKamiGuruuI agree without you 100%. Never underestimate a fighter. Fury is dangerous. I didn’t think he could KO Wilder, and he did that twice. For Fury, it is going to be a matter of determination and dedication. It will not be easy; but if he does EVERYTHING HE NEEDS TO DO and still loses, then at least he lost with no excuses. I believe Floyd Patterson and Ali were the only champions to regain the full undisputed world titles and heavyweight lineage. I believe Fury is in the same league. I would not count him out until the final bell.
Usyks pace is VERY good for any heavyweight let alone Tyson’s massive body. Having said that I didn’t even think Tyson showed signs of weakness or inactivity he seemed to be in great shape regarding the comment about his fitness. Tyson just has a mid section. That spare tire isn’t going anywhere no matter what shape he presents it seems. Loved the video brother
Watching Fury staggering from corner to corner, his hands down and too heavy and Usyk following him like a shadow, fists blazing, was one of the most satisfying scenes! Fury would have been knocked out in 5 more seconds, if the Referee had not stopped the fight!
He needs to train and stay focussed I think Usyk biggest weakness is body shots as he also got knocked down by Beterbiev in the Amateurs but you can argue it was a Low blow
I picked Usyk in the first fight and I will in the second fight. But to question whether or not Tyson Fury has a chance is silly. He is a smart complete fighter. He certainly has a chance. He still has a reach advantage, he still has a height advantage which forces Usyk to reach up, and he still has very good footwork. Usyk should be the favorite and he should win. But this isn't an open and shut case. It is all about the Fury we see in the ring because we know Usyk will be ready.
Fury 'can' win the rematch, if he uses his natural physical strengths, ie his longer reach, and bigger size. Fury needs to fight at range, and jabs constantly, to land from distance, and if Usyk gets within range, he needs to not get into a war of counters, but instead tie him up, play dirty, and try to smother Usyk. It won't be pretty, but he can win.
I dieagree respectfully. In the first half of his career, Fury never got tired, and could jab and move for 12 rounds easily. He had to take breaks in the first Usyk fight, and could not keep moving for 12 rounds, proving he did not have the fitness to do what he once used to do. He doesn't seem to have the same dedication tot raining he once had, and Usyk never gets out of shape, always trains between fights, so unless Fury has trained none stop since the first fight, I don't think he will be in any better shape, and certainly nowhere near as fit as he used to be.
@@DjNikGnashers first half of his career he controlled the fights being the dominants one and the big one allow him to use his energy as he wishes , against usyk he didnt have this luxury since usyk was the center ring guy making fury move a lot, fury did pretty well but he slowed down, i heard ( in russian ) usyk corner discussing every round if fury slowing down or not
@@lprite8507 That's exactly what I said. Fury used to be fitter and able to move around the ring for 12 rounds, but now he can't. If he was as fit as he used to be, he could move for 12 rounds and jab Usyk to keep him at range.
I tipped Usyk for the win in the first fight, I knew he would land more shots on Fury than anyone else has done, and that despite not being renowned for his power, he had enough to hurt him. Usyk not only maintains a constant intense work rate that Fury struggled keep up with, but is extremely agile and clever with it. He is quick enough to beat Fury to the punch and is dangerous on the counter. Fury had a couple of good rounds where he landed more power punches than Usyk (rounds 5 & 6) when he appeared to be turning things in his favour, but that was because Usyk stayed in front of him when he landed those big uppercuts. As soon as Usyk started using the ring again, it was business as usual. Insee nothing Fury can do that he didn’t already try in the first fight. I think Usyk wins the rematch
The best version of Fury was the Fury who showed up for the Wilder 2 rematch. That Fury fight's anyone throughout any time. Problem with Fury is the lifestyle he has led both in camp and out of camp. Fury is known for drinking during camp and partying even harder out of it. He has natural talent and abilities but that will only take you so far and more importantly for so long. His life style has caught up to him. You can't put beer away and sausage away every single night. The way he would balloon up out of camp, the drugs etc. He's 35 now I believe, there is a young 35 year old, someone like a Mayweather, or Hopkins, or a Usyk ( who has taken care of himself) then there's an old 35. Fury is an older 35. I don't think he win's the rematch. But you never know, this loss may have sparked something in him to live clean and train clean and hard, but the damage is already done imo.
Fury didn't take Usyk seriously last time, and only lost because of that single round where he clowned around. A motivated Fury will annihilate the little man.
I’m from England. Cannot tell you how happy I was to see Usyk win. Why should I support someone that unlikeable just because they’re from my country? If I like them and they also come from England, that’s a great bonus, but I don’t understand supporting one fighter over another just because they’re “on your side”. Because they aren’t. Might just be because this country has gone down the drain and I have no loyalty to it anymore 😂😂
Fury was putting an absolute beat down on Usyk early in the fight. He obviously can be competitive with Usyk, but can he overcome his age and mental issues? That;s the question. Usyk will be strong and smart for the entire fight. He always is. If Fury can find the commitment, it will be a great fight.
I kind of feel like Usyk was the type of dude who, if allowed, would have just faded into obscurity, spending time with his family. Possibly retires before he needs to actually defend his belt again. However, being a man of his word and Tyson pushing for this, he strikes me as the type of dude who is now training even harder than he did the first time to really teach Tyson the real lesson about being a champion. I think Usyk will come out in close to the best shape we have ever seen him, looking to write his name in the history book indefinitely. By beating Fury as second time, no one can dare second guess the truth of his legacy and that. I think would be when he will retire. I just don't know if at this point in Fury's career, he has the skill or the heart to beat Usyk.
I completely agree with you! Fury did not have the skills or the heart to beat Usyk the firsst time too - remember him falling over each corner, his hands down, too weak to even pick up his own hands, as Usyk followed him like a shadow, fists blazing? Just 5 more seconds and Fury would have gone down and out, but the Referee stopped it! Usyk knows how to put Fury down again and again!
I don’t know why everybody is acting like it was a blowout usyk barely won that fight on the cards - if he didn’t get put down he would’ve won. To me it’s a 50 50 fight.
It's because we have eyes, and a functioning brain, and know how to score a fight. You should considering adding the last two to your list of attributes as well. Usyk did far more than just "barely" win. Sorry to hear you've yet to learn how scoring works in boxing. Will you fix that, or is ignorance bliss in your case?
@@importantvideos4529 you just want that to be the case - let me guess you were rooting for usyk heavy ? I was too I don’t like fury but im not bias as most fake fans - fury controlled the beginning of the fight until he got put down.. the score was close. If he can avoid getting put down next fight he CAN win - casual.
@@SecretSocietyTV No, youre wrong. Still learning how to score a fight i see. Let me know when you have free time i can arrange to tutor you on how scoring works since you seem to have a flimsy grasp. Tuesdays ok? Dont worry, ill fix that case of "the dumbs" youre suffering from. 👍
i dont think its lack of discipline i think it was just the trilogy of the wilder fights. they went to war wilder is done and fury took too much damage. in the first wilder fight, fury postponed the rematch because he got concussed. if you see the fury tv show you can tell that fury has to train or else he gets depressed, so discipline is what keeps him happy. he also said after the francis fight that he prepared well, just didn't feel right.
Shame Fury didn't follow up from Wilder 2 with a fight against Usyk. He should have vacated the WBC title and that version of Fury would have probably been too much for Usyk
Why everyone slating Tyson ,the mans no fool he's in training and the more shit said about him the better he will be.trust he be there for the rematch.don't worry about that.
this is his last fight..... unless he wins.... Fury knows he will have to be perfect and fit,,,,, but Uzyk has 12 rounds of experience of the long reach and his knowledge and speed will be Fury's biggest hurdle to overcome.... and unless he KO's Uzyk ... which he could possibly do.... but I see fury losing either by ko or points..... on the other hand...... it could be a Pac Man vs Oscar fight... were Uzyk makes Fury quit from the speed and pressure.
@@ramieskola7845 sorry I’m just being a pedantic jerk: I count 45 not 48 rounds on account of DD quitting in the 9th… but other than that, yes very good point, totally agree.
tyson was winning till round 7 when usyk just went beast mode and destoy tyson, but i think tyson came back on round 12 he didn't win it but if he won that round tyson would've won.
You can not fall back on just talent forever. The lack of hunger for training, aging and his taste of the miljonair lifestyle will not improve Tyson or give him a reasonable chance to regain the title 👊.
I hope he wins the rematch it would make him a unbelievable great coming back from weight loss and depression to now being a underdog for one last war it would make a hell of a movie if he pulls it off 🔥
If fury gets his head down on training, get rid of his dad in training camp, and stop thinking he’s the best heavyweight fighter ever he’s got a chance
I think people are writing off Fury too soon. He was winning the fight, not easily but decisively, up until the knockdown when he was caught showboating. After that, he was in recovery mode for the rest of the fight, and even, only lost by one point. I’m going with Fury on the rematch.
@@TH-camboxingvoicethe most important round of the fight wasn't the ninth, it was the first. That usyk was able to quite easily catch and buzz Fury set the tone. Fury gets little credit for his performance in the middle rounds, and ability to hurt usyk. However he absolutely clearly and unequivocally lost. It was a unanimous decision
If Fury wasn't so coked up during his fights he wouldn't have nearly as good of a record that he has now... Like that Wilder knockdown in their first fight completely knocked Fury out. But then the coke came to the rescue and woke his ass right back up.
fury will not outbox usyk for 12 rounds even on his best day, usyk understands how Fury fights a lot better than in the first fight, fury only option is to go for a KO in order to win, and personally i think fury starts to train and staying disciplined now will be to little to late, i think fury can win a rematch but i think there it will be harder than the first fight, fury relies a lot on his awkward style to throw peapol off and mask his intent and make him hard to read, now that usyk has fought him, usyk will be abel to read fury a lot better in the Rematch, one training camp is not enough, i think usyk wins with fury having some success here and there and if he does commit for the KO i think usyk will wether the storm and then Go on to KO fury, but i do think that fury best chance to win is to go for a KO but agains a guy like usyk who has a great chin and is rather durable that will be diffcult as well, usyk proved that he could take Furys best shoots, and whole they did to damange they did not drop him or relly stop usyk, at most it forced him to back off for a bit but then he was back so it did not do even close to enought lasting damage on usyk
Nope, he's done. He threw everything he had left at Usyk, and lost comprehensively - the score cards flattered Fury. If he gets in again, he goes out on his back. He only survived 12 rounds because of very dubious refereeing. Usyk is better at every single aspect of the sport other than being huge.
Usyk literally was wobbled by 2 half assed uppercuts, Fury just didn't keep up the pressure because he is stupid. It's the same scenario as the first wilder fight. People for some reason think Usyk is Evander Holyfield
@@CellSaga574”2 half assed uppercuts” really, do you think so? I’m not being confrontational, I’m just curious as to why you say that. I wasn’t there but on tv they looked pretty decent to me - big cheers and gasps by his fans and big praise for Fury by the commentators… so I’m just a little surprised someone would think they were half assed. For the sake of clarity, I’m an Usyk fan.
Surely fury can win the rematch and will perform better than the first one,,did watch the fight 3x already and i would say thay tyson has a lot of mistake , he could d win that fight but he was show boating and 9 came and thats it,,
anything can happen in boxing, as many will say usyk will win. we arent sure until the match itself arrives, lot can happen between from may and to december. everyone thought tyson will knock out douglas, everyone thought canelo will beat bivol, everyone thought that manny will dominate floyd and win. but anything can happen in boxing, with the recent news of fury kicking out his father, there will be changes and for me its either: fury didnt train again, usyk with KO. similar to inoue-donaire 1, and in 2 inoue KO'd donaire early or fury took the training seriously, and wins decision. for me, anything can happen and i look at 2 outcomes, this is boxing, upsets can still happen no matter how one sided it looks
Nobody expected Tyson to do coke with strippers the night before the fight and nobody expected Floyd to wait till manny was over the hill for the fight to happen
I so glad Tyson lost as we would have to put up with his bullshit and it would have got worse, he needed to be beaten and loose that 0 record In the rematch USYK will catch him and when he does it will be the same outcome, and then AJ can knock Tyson into retirement 🥊🥊
I dont think Fury can win. It looks to me that Uskk is venerable to body shots so Fury should concentrate on that and stop the stupid clowning around with his hands behind his back.
Usyk dominated fury. He nearly ko'd tyson. If it was a street fight Usyk would have won, in a boxing match Usyk won. In every scenerio Usyk wins. Usyk evolves too, if you can't get him in the first try forget it.
Why would losing to Usyk destroy his legacy? By that reckoning Ali destroyed his own legacy by losing to Frazier and Norton or Mike Tyson by not winning any of his big fights outside of a 38 year old Holmes and getting knocked out off buster. Haters and trolls. Boring! His career isn't even over yet.
Well said razor..uysk is to good Mr uysk is the best I've ever seen and I've been supporting boxing nearly sixty years I love uysk beautiful man beautiful boxer good bless mr uysk thank you...
@@paulhaley5009 So you think Usyk is the best you've ever seen and because of that it would destroy Furys legacy. Can't you see how stupid that is. Mind you coming from someone who doesn't know the difference between to and too, basic 11 years old English it doesn't surprise me.
In my opinion fury won if not draw everyone just got there head up Ukraine's a**e. Ubitch won a couple of the later rounds but was outboxed the first half of the fight.
It wasn’t a TKO it was a good call by the ref, fury kept fighting after the barrage and lasted till the final round. TKO and stoppages are to protect fighters that have no chance of coming back. Fury has shown multiple times he can come back from severe damage why would the ref stop the fight knowing that and the fact that Tyson was still standing. Also it’s forgotten that the barrage only happened because Tyson refused to go down, he could of taken a knee and been fine yet no one respects the fact the man remained standing for so long.
The fact that no one noticed anything suspicious in the Usyk corner in between round 7 and 8 is wild to me.. Inhaler, smelling salts, or just the Holy Ghost of a “crucifix”… looked like foul play to me, esp considering how he was getting wrecked for a few rounds until he came out in round 8 like he had a rocket up his ass. Check the tape for yourself before replying to this comment. I was a big Usyk fan before that, he was one of my favorite fighters, but that was so sus and sketch that he immediately lost my respect. Clean fight: Fury in 8. Dirty fight: Usyk MD
The reason no one is discussing it is because it's pure B.S. It's been debunked already. The reason this seems suspicious to you is you clearly know nothing about Usyk despite claiming to be a fan of his previously. You claim Usyk was "Getting wrecked" then suddenly came out in round 8 like a rocket? #1 - No, Usyk objectively was NOT "Getting wrecked". He gave up a few rounds to Fury, but was NOT getting wrecked as you claim. If you truly believe that, then for the love of god, please go crack open a book on how to score a fight. #2 - Every knows Usyks style of taking of a round or 2 in order to conserve energy for the championship rounds, which is EXACTLY what he was doing here as he always does. He did the exact same thing against AJ, when in round 9 everyone who is ignorant of boxing like you, claimed AJ was whipping up on him and winning, only for Usyk to come out in round 10 and re-establish dominance. They claim "AJ just stopped what was working" which is such a ridiculous notion to think AJ just "stopped"? Why, because he didn't want to win? No, he "Stopped" because Usyk hit the gas again now that his fuel tank was full again, and AJ couldn't do a darn thing about it. This is EXACTLY what Usyk did against Fury, and it's rather sad you needed this explained to you. Add to this the context that Usyk was handily winning the first 3 rounds. By round 4, Fury began to figure out what Usyk was doing, and by round 5 Fury had a new gameplan to counter. So Usyk had to go a few rounds re-downloading Fury's changes, and build a new gameplan of his own to counter Furys counter. Which is exactly what he did. Usyk being Usyk, he took this time to refuel himself and back off as well, so he both downloaded Furys new counter, figured him out, and refueled his tank all in one go and by round 8 he switched back on. Don't believe me? Go watch the changes in Usyks offense by round 8. It's quite different from the earlier rounds, because Usyk figured out Fury. Or are you so ignorant that you actually believe a champion level boxer would keep attacking with the same vigor when their opponent has a strong counter? No... Hang back, go more defensive, conserve energy, and figure out how you're going to win. That's what Usyk did, once figured out, he hit the gas and pretty much TKO'd Fury. Hope you learned something today. Oh, and the crucifix? Usyk has always been deeply religious and has kissed, or touched it in other matches before this one. But nice try with the insane conspiracy theory.
You’re a delusional fella aren’t you. Everything is checked by opposite teams, refs and judges. There was no smelling salts, no inhaler. Just a plain crucifix that Usyk has had with him for religious purposes. Nothing suspicious happened and it was a fair fight. Don’t cope and if you are a Fury dan don’t feed in delusion and support the guy to get better. Fans like you are the reason fighters become delusional. Happened to Wilder and Chisora and it can happen to Fury.
Fury beat the biggest puncher in wilder yes but anyone who knows how to box can beat wilder he is trash 😂. Fury only survived round 9 against usyk because the ref saved him
Fury needs a knockout, otherwise Usyk will keep the pace up and eventually overwhelm him. The only other way Fury wins is if Usyk does a victory lap and arrive unprepared.
I agree and I think unless he catches usyk the cleanest and hardest he's ever thrown a punch its not happening, simply doesn't have that sort of power, even more so against someone like usyk
Disagree. Usyk won 9 rounds with a knockdown and got a split decision. If Usyk doesn’t get that knockdown he would have won 9 rounds 8 absolute minimum if you’re generous to fury and would have lost on the cards.
Fury basically has to win 5 rounds avoid getting dropped or embarrassed and they’ll give it to him. Usyk needs a KO or the most dominant 12 round hiding you’ve ever seen in your life.
The first fight was close, however
@@NEVERGOON-e7q nope.
@@andrewsneacker1256 Fury won at least 4 rounds.
His age, lack of commitment to the boxing life, and his lack of strong opposition has degraded what used to be sublime footwork into this really labored style that resembles Wladimir Klitschko (which makes sense with having Sugar Hill as a trainer) if Wlad was out of shape. Against Usyk, that style does not work.
I’ll be surprised if this fight happens at all, though. Fully expect a Fury pull out any week now.
usyks older
@@jkbtw293 didn’t say he wasn’t, but Fury is still not a young boxer and has done a lot more damage to his body with the massive fluctuations in weight along with all the periods of inactivity coupled with unhealthy eating habits. The drugs and alcohol certainly haven’t helped over the years too.
I'd say you're right. It took years to arrange the first fight because of team tf ducking and outpricing himself. As if he's going to enter the ring against someone he knows is likely to beat him again.
Absolute armchair general speaking 😂
@@captaintruth doesn’t take being an armchair fan to see that when two people gifted with otherworldly talent that approaches the limit of athleticism in the realm of boxing, the advantage is going to go to the person who shows consistency and commitment to improvement.
For what it’s worth, I like Fury, and against just about any other fighter, I’d very well pick him because his God-given abilities outmatches anyone else’s best effort. The only exception being a guy who also has God-given abilities but is more disciplined in his practice. I believe Usyk is that guy.
Idk why its only now ppl started questioning furys resume. I been questioning it for yrs now. Wilder, klitschko, whyte and wallin and usyk who dominated their match outside of rounds 4-7. That's piss poor for someone claiming to be the best of his ers when u barely fought anyone in ur era. Out of this era of heavyweights the best resumes are honestly Usyk, AJ and Joseph parker.
Aj ducking Andy Ruiz rematch
@@Azteca-v1m he fought ruiz 6 months after the loss and beat him very comfortably wym
I agree 100% mate
😂 then nobody has a good resume other than Usyk by that logic.
Fury has a good resume, don’t know what you’re talking about
The thing is, if you're Usyk, the gameplan is basically to do the exact same thing as you did the first time. I think that Tyson Fury can make more adjustments to try to win the rematch. Not saying that he'll make the right adjustments, but he's more versatile and could take more risks than Usyk as the bigger man and now with no undefeated record to protect.
In no way whatsoever!!! In any time, throughout either man’s career, has Fury ever!! It will be more versatile than Usyk
Usyk is fitter stronger and hits harder than Fury. Fury is just bigger and fatter than Usyk. He tried to lean on but wasn't strong enough.
Kinda sucks that if Fury does win, I dont think he'll give Usyk a third fight. I can see him brushing off the first fight as some sort of fluke, then either go on to AJ or "retire" again.
I always thought Usyk would beat Fury the first time. Usyk is a superior boxer and adapts during fights. I think he stops Fury this time.
Agree
I rewatched the first fight and came to the conclusion that the fight swung in the 8th round, when Fury switched off and stood stock still while Usyk smashed him in the face and broke his nose. If Fury hadn't switched off, I reckon he would have won. I think a lot of people have hate for Fury, or are overly biased towards Usyk. Having said that, there's a strong possibility he could switch off again in the 2nd fight.
I think he gassed out. Trying to keep up with Usyks pace is a tall ask for a guy Fury’s size even with his impressive gas tank.
@@aaroncampbell331 Usyk did start bouncing around in the 8th. Could have been a factor.
It seems after the KD and Fury's obnoxious personality, people have retroactively rewritten the fight in their minds. There was a fair period where his huge reach advantage was keeping Usyk out of the fight. He still lost an SD with a KD included. Yes, he can win the rematch. Though so can Usyk, obviously.
I agree I think it depends on how seriously fury takes this fight
If a winning scenario involves a 35 year old doing something hes never done before, its not happening.
Well put!
Foreman and Hopkins go brrrrr
@@SuperKamiGuruuhe means beating the guy that beat you to take the title back. Which in itself is rare, but I don’t think it’s happened for Undisputed heavyweights.
@@femain1788 he himself should be the one clarifying if that's what he meant
@@SuperKamiGuruuI agree without you 100%. Never underestimate a fighter. Fury is dangerous. I didn’t think he could KO Wilder, and he did that twice.
For Fury, it is going to be a matter of determination and dedication. It will not be easy; but if he does EVERYTHING HE NEEDS TO DO and still loses, then at least he lost with no excuses.
I believe Floyd Patterson and Ali were the only champions to regain the full undisputed world titles and heavyweight lineage. I believe Fury is in the same league. I would not count him out until the final bell.
Usyks pace is VERY good for any heavyweight let alone Tyson’s massive body. Having said that I didn’t even think Tyson showed signs of weakness or inactivity he seemed to be in great shape regarding the comment about his fitness. Tyson just has a mid section. That spare tire isn’t going anywhere no matter what shape he presents it seems. Loved the video brother
If Fury fights a disciplined fight - he can absolutely win
100%
He tried that last time and lost. He will lose again.
I’ll tell you what happens , Fury wins the rematch on points and sets up a third fight decider, if you don’t believe me then just watch it pan out
Watching Fury staggering from corner to corner, his hands down and too heavy and Usyk following him like a shadow, fists blazing, was one of the most satisfying scenes! Fury would have been knocked out in 5 more seconds, if the Referee had not stopped the fight!
@@SurendranNambiath appearently everyone forgot the Wilder fights all of a sudden
@@CellSaga574he cheated on the 2nd and the first and third he had a handicap with 20 second counts.
Fury is the most protected heavyweight. They gave him every chance in that fight. It should have been a tko
@@gpayne3728 you wilder fans are so pathetic lmao.
I think John gave the correct advise he told tyosn to attack and keep the pressure on
Sugar told him to step off and wait for it to come
He needs to train and stay focussed I think Usyk biggest weakness is body shots as he also got knocked down by Beterbiev in the Amateurs but you can argue it was a Low blow
My favourite Aussie frog boxing pundit strikes again!!!
Love from Melbourne mate 🥊
Thanks for tuning in bro!
@@CloisterYT cheers mate
Jab and uppercut
I don't think so honestly. Usyk 2-0
I picked Usyk in the first fight and I will in the second fight. But to question whether or not Tyson Fury has a chance is silly. He is a smart complete fighter. He certainly has a chance. He still has a reach advantage, he still has a height advantage which forces Usyk to reach up, and he still has very good footwork. Usyk should be the favorite and he should win. But this isn't an open and shut case. It is all about the Fury we see in the ring because we know Usyk will be ready.
Fury 'can' win the rematch, if he uses his natural physical strengths, ie his longer reach, and bigger size.
Fury needs to fight at range, and jabs constantly, to land from distance, and if Usyk gets within range, he needs to not get into a war of counters, but instead tie him up, play dirty, and try to smother Usyk.
It won't be pretty, but he can win.
Fury has definitely got a good chance,,he punches hard.
fury was in his best shape in first fight , it wasn't enough , and at 35 it wont get better
I dieagree respectfully.
In the first half of his career, Fury never got tired, and could jab and move for 12 rounds easily.
He had to take breaks in the first Usyk fight, and could not keep moving for 12 rounds, proving he did not have the fitness to do what he once used to do.
He doesn't seem to have the same dedication tot raining he once had, and Usyk never gets out of shape, always trains between fights, so unless Fury has trained none stop since the first fight, I don't think he will be in any better shape, and certainly nowhere near as fit as he used to be.
@@DjNikGnashers first half of his career he controlled the fights being the dominants one and the big one allow him to use his energy as he wishes , against usyk he didnt have this luxury since usyk was the center ring guy making fury move a lot, fury did pretty well but he slowed down, i heard ( in russian ) usyk corner discussing every round if fury slowing down or not
@@lprite8507 That's exactly what I said.
Fury used to be fitter and able to move around the ring for 12 rounds, but now he can't.
If he was as fit as he used to be, he could move for 12 rounds and jab Usyk to keep him at range.
Nah usyk wins
Usyk: "Nah, I'd win."
Usyk: if he were to stop drinking and doing drugs, he might cause me a little trouble
“But would you lose?”
Usyk: nah, I’d win
Fury can win and nearly did in their last fight. 50/50 for me.
Let's hope he has learned from the last fight , pressure is on Fury now , I hope he wins as this will make boxing so much better .
« Can »… not vs a fit and ready Usyk he cant.
I tipped Usyk for the win in the first fight, I knew he would land more shots on Fury than anyone else has done, and that despite not being renowned for his power, he had enough to hurt him. Usyk not only maintains a constant intense work rate that Fury struggled keep up with, but is extremely agile and clever with it. He is quick enough to beat Fury to the punch and is dangerous on the counter. Fury had a couple of good rounds where he landed more power punches than Usyk (rounds 5 & 6) when he appeared to be turning things in his favour, but that was because Usyk stayed in front of him when he landed those big uppercuts. As soon as Usyk started using the ring again, it was business as usual. Insee nothing Fury can do that he didn’t already try in the first fight. I think Usyk wins the rematch
The best version of Fury was the Fury who showed up for the Wilder 2 rematch. That Fury fight's anyone throughout any time. Problem with Fury is the lifestyle he has led both in camp and out of camp. Fury is known for drinking during camp and partying even harder out of it. He has natural talent and abilities but that will only take you so far and more importantly for so long. His life style has caught up to him. You can't put beer away and sausage away every single night. The way he would balloon up out of camp, the drugs etc. He's 35 now I believe, there is a young 35 year old, someone like a Mayweather, or Hopkins, or a Usyk ( who has taken care of himself) then there's an old 35. Fury is an older 35. I don't think he win's the rematch. But you never know, this loss may have sparked something in him to live clean and train clean and hard, but the damage is already done imo.
Looking forward to the rematch
Fury is not that old, it's just like he's not taking anything seriously. Mentally, I think he's not there anymore.
Fury didn't take Usyk seriously last time, and only lost because of that single round where he clowned around. A motivated Fury will annihilate the little man.
I’m from England. Cannot tell you how happy I was to see Usyk win. Why should I support someone that unlikeable just because they’re from my country? If I like them and they also come from England, that’s a great bonus, but I don’t understand supporting one fighter over another just because they’re “on your side”. Because they aren’t. Might just be because this country has gone down the drain and I have no loyalty to it anymore 😂😂
Fury was putting an absolute beat down on Usyk early in the fight. He obviously can be competitive with Usyk, but can he overcome his age and mental issues? That;s the question. Usyk will be strong and smart for the entire fight. He always is. If Fury can find the commitment, it will be a great fight.
We don't need Fury to win the rematch....
I kind of feel like Usyk was the type of dude who, if allowed, would have just faded into obscurity, spending time with his family. Possibly retires before he needs to actually defend his belt again. However, being a man of his word and Tyson pushing for this, he strikes me as the type of dude who is now training even harder than he did the first time to really teach Tyson the real lesson about being a champion. I think Usyk will come out in close to the best shape we have ever seen him, looking to write his name in the history book indefinitely. By beating Fury as second time, no one can dare second guess the truth of his legacy and that. I think would be when he will retire. I just don't know if at this point in Fury's career, he has the skill or the heart to beat Usyk.
I completely agree with you!
Fury did not have the skills or the heart to beat Usyk the firsst time too - remember him falling over each corner, his hands down, too weak to even pick up his own hands, as Usyk followed him like a shadow, fists blazing? Just 5 more seconds and Fury would have gone down and out, but the Referee stopped it!
Usyk knows how to put Fury down again and again!
No!
Fury's too easy to hit.
He's been knocked down more times than I've had hot dinners.
I said Usyk would win the first fight.
Usky by knockout
Hell nah fury by brutal ko it was a one round that he lost by and I personally think fury won the fight
@@alonzoalaniz3295 COPE... fury couldnt knock a w*nk out. 🤣
@@alonzoalaniz3295🤡 🔔end
@@alonzoalaniz3295the fight wasn’t close fury was gifted rounds simply because he is who he is
No.
I don’t know why everybody is acting like it was a blowout usyk barely won that fight on the cards - if he didn’t get put down he would’ve won. To me it’s a 50 50 fight.
It's because we have eyes, and a functioning brain, and know how to score a fight. You should considering adding the last two to your list of attributes as well. Usyk did far more than just "barely" win. Sorry to hear you've yet to learn how scoring works in boxing. Will you fix that, or is ignorance bliss in your case?
@@importantvideos4529 you just want that to be the case - let me guess you were rooting for usyk heavy ? I was too I don’t like fury but im not bias as most fake fans - fury controlled the beginning of the fight until he got put down.. the score was close. If he can avoid getting put down next fight he CAN win - casual.
@@SecretSocietyTV No, youre wrong. Still learning how to score a fight i see. Let me know when you have free time i can arrange to tutor you on how scoring works since you seem to have a flimsy grasp. Tuesdays ok? Dont worry, ill fix that case of "the dumbs" youre suffering from. 👍
He absolutely can..Usyk my guy and i'm rooting for him in the rematch, but i lowkey got Fury winning by a few before the 9th KD
i dont think its lack of discipline i think it was just the trilogy of the wilder fights. they went to war wilder is done and fury took too much damage. in the first wilder fight, fury postponed the rematch because he got concussed. if you see the fury tv show you can tell that fury has to train or else he gets depressed, so discipline is what keeps him happy. he also said after the francis fight that he prepared well, just didn't feel right.
Silly headline question . CAN he win?...of course he can. WILL he win?...well we will have to wait and see won't we?
If he fights like he did last time- NO.
Shame Fury didn't follow up from Wilder 2 with a fight against Usyk.
He should have vacated the WBC title and that version of Fury would have probably been too much for Usyk
He can't outbox or outpace Usyk. He needs to go for the KO. But Usyk will be prepared for that as well
Absolutely no reason I can see that Usyk won't totally dominate, Fury had a good go but Usyk superior in every way (in and out of the ring)
considering size and age difference Fury has no excuse
Never underestimate the Gypsy King.
@@derekdartes3573Tarmac? He’s the Gypsum King.
Why everyone slating Tyson ,the mans no fool he's in training and the more shit said about him the better he will be.trust he be there for the rematch.don't worry about that.
Putting his weight on Usyk didn't work lol 😂
Fury will get knocked down and stay down, in one of the last rounds. For too long, we have been fed tripe about Fury's supposed greatness!
Can he? Yes. Will he? No
this is his last fight..... unless he wins.... Fury knows he will have to be perfect and fit,,,,, but Uzyk has 12 rounds of experience of the long reach and his knowledge and speed will be Fury's biggest hurdle to overcome.... and unless he KO's Uzyk ... which he could possibly do.... but I see fury losing either by ko or points..... on the other hand...... it could be a Pac Man vs Oscar fight... were Uzyk makes Fury quit from the speed and pressure.
AJ couldnt ko usyk over 24 rounds, Fury aint doing it.
Once against Furu + twice against AJ = 3*12 = 36 rounds.
Dubois is not a dwarf either so lets say 48 rounds against taller guys.
@@ramieskola7845 sorry I’m just being a pedantic jerk: I count 45 not 48 rounds on account of DD quitting in the 9th… but other than that, yes very good point, totally agree.
Usyk took time to work on a movie, lets see if the curse is real....
tyson was winning till round 7 when usyk just went beast mode and destoy tyson, but i think tyson came back on round 12 he didn't win it but if he won that round tyson would've won.
You can not fall back on just talent forever. The lack of hunger for training, aging and his taste of the miljonair lifestyle will not improve Tyson or give him a reasonable chance to regain the title 👊.
Fury is gonna get KTFO out in the rematch.
Olexandar Usyk wins by stoppage or knockout this time probably early
I hope he wins the rematch it would make him a unbelievable great coming back from weight loss and depression to now being a underdog for one last war it would make a hell of a movie if he pulls it off 🔥
If fury gets his head down on training, get rid of his dad in training camp, and stop thinking he’s the best heavyweight fighter ever he’s got a chance
For me Fury v Usyk was a draw
Fury was winning that fight but fury chin is sus
alot off people thought fury won that fight
Yea! Fury repeated it a lot of times so it appears that a lot of people said it! 🤣😂🤣
I think people are writing off Fury too soon.
He was winning the fight, not easily but decisively, up until the knockdown when he was caught showboating. After that, he was in recovery mode for the rest of the fight, and even, only lost by one point.
I’m going with Fury on the rematch.
He was not winning
@@Mokuteke Fury Was Giving Usyk a Beating, and The Only Reason People Think Fury Lost That Fight is Because of R9
That's not true at all, fury took over the middle rounds, but lost the majority of early ones, and then all the late rounds@@BaileyPh10
@@TH-camboxingvoicethe most important round of the fight wasn't the ninth, it was the first. That usyk was able to quite easily catch and buzz Fury set the tone. Fury gets little credit for his performance in the middle rounds, and ability to hurt usyk. However he absolutely clearly and unequivocally lost. It was a unanimous decision
@@patriceaqa288 I agree with every word you wrote here, I'm a huge fan of usyk btw just so there's no confusion.
I doubt it
I think this time Usyk finishes the job, he will KO fury but it will be a nice fun fight (if it happens).
Fury is not good enough. Padded stats. The last fight he was saved by the ref. He's not the "champion" he pushes towards his fans!
The ref saved him from the ass whooping he deserved for the show boating and trash talk.
He can’t win and won’t win, he’s just doing it for the money. Bye bye Fury.
Nope his Cinderella story has ended.
His career has already far outstripped expectations. He was a joke in the uk for years!
No
Fury is spent and done. He is not right in the head. As he gets older, he's head problems increase. He will lose the rematch too.
If Fury wasn't so coked up during his fights he wouldn't have nearly as good of a record that he has now... Like that Wilder knockdown in their first fight completely knocked Fury out. But then the coke came to the rescue and woke his ass right back up.
fury will not outbox usyk for 12 rounds even on his best day, usyk understands how Fury fights a lot better than in the first fight, fury only option is to go for a KO in order to win, and personally i think fury starts to train and staying disciplined now will be to little to late, i think fury can win a rematch but i think there it will be harder than the first fight, fury relies a lot on his awkward style to throw peapol off and mask his intent and make him hard to read, now that usyk has fought him, usyk will be abel to read fury a lot better in the Rematch, one training camp is not enough, i think usyk wins with fury having some success here and there and if he does commit for the KO i think usyk will wether the storm and then Go on to KO fury, but i do think that fury best chance to win is to go for a KO but agains a guy like usyk who has a great chin and is rather durable that will be diffcult as well, usyk proved that he could take Furys best shoots, and whole they did to damange they did not drop him or relly stop usyk, at most it forced him to back off for a bit but then he was back so it did not do even close to enought lasting damage on usyk
I thought fury won😂😂 other than rd 9, i don't think usyk done enough. Keep in mind we score a 12 rd fight.
The answer is no he cant win
Tyson Fury could end up with brain damage because the referee does not stop the fight when he is suppose to.
I am a casual and I thought Tyson fury wasn’t real like Isaac frost ngl
Bro what 💀
@@Sparlis Isaac frost from fight night lol
@@Sparlis like bro look at him he don’t look real lol
Nope, he's done. He threw everything he had left at Usyk, and lost comprehensively - the score cards flattered Fury. If he gets in again, he goes out on his back. He only survived 12 rounds because of very dubious refereeing. Usyk is better at every single aspect of the sport other than being huge.
Usyk literally was wobbled by 2 half assed uppercuts, Fury just didn't keep up the pressure because he is stupid. It's the same scenario as the first wilder fight. People for some reason think Usyk is Evander Holyfield
@@CellSaga574”2 half assed uppercuts” really, do you think so? I’m not being confrontational, I’m just curious as to why you say that.
I wasn’t there but on tv they looked pretty decent to me - big cheers and gasps by his fans and big praise for Fury by the commentators… so I’m just a little surprised someone would think they were half assed.
For the sake of clarity, I’m an Usyk fan.
@@jimneversink9700 Yeah they weren't half arsed, they were decent shots, but Fury didn't follow them up. Fury CAN win, i just don't think he will...
@@mymodel6 thanks, yes I agree!
Yeah but it was a close fight though and i thought fury won at first
So he should eat a word salad before the first then ?
Surely fury can win the rematch and will perform better than the first one,,did watch the fight 3x already and i would say thay tyson has a lot of mistake , he could d win that fight but he was show boating and 9 came and thats it,,
If he gets his Da to get in the ring with him lol😂
I hope fury loses… he’s conned the fans for years, be better for boxing when he’s gone.
anything can happen in boxing, as many will say usyk will win. we arent sure until the match itself arrives, lot can happen between from may and to december. everyone thought tyson will knock out douglas, everyone thought canelo will beat bivol, everyone thought that manny will dominate floyd and win. but anything can happen in boxing, with the recent news of fury kicking out his father, there will be changes and for me its either:
fury didnt train again, usyk with KO. similar to inoue-donaire 1, and in 2 inoue KO'd donaire early
or
fury took the training seriously, and wins decision.
for me, anything can happen and i look at 2 outcomes, this is boxing, upsets can still happen no matter how one sided it looks
Nobody expected Tyson to do coke with strippers the night before the fight and nobody expected Floyd to wait till manny was over the hill for the fight to happen
Ive already said fury is overrated. I see usyk winning but what do i know
I love fury but he lived in era of big men with no i.q. usyk is athletic at 6'3 and will f**k him up again.......
No he can’t
I hope usyk looses so he can go rematch francis or Jake paul, canelo or whatever makes him money.
how tf would he fight canelo and jake paul if canelo is 110 lbs lighter
I so glad Tyson lost as we would have to put up with his bullshit and it would have got worse, he needed to be beaten and loose that 0 record
In the rematch USYK will catch him and when he does it will be the same outcome, and then AJ can knock Tyson into retirement 🥊🥊
I dont think Fury can win. It looks to me that Uskk is venerable to body shots so Fury should concentrate on that and stop the stupid clowning around with his hands behind his back.
Usyk dominated fury. He nearly ko'd tyson. If it was a street fight Usyk would have won, in a boxing match Usyk won. In every scenerio Usyk wins. Usyk evolves too, if you can't get him in the first try forget it.
Usyk wins
Fury won the first one 😂😂
Who cares, we want Fury vs Chisora 4 😤😤😤😤
Fury beat a washed up Vladimir and a 207lbs Wilder
He hadn't lost a fight 11 years prior to this.
I think, it can be even worse for Fury. His legacy might be completely destroyed after the fight....and rightfully so.
Too right
🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽
Why would losing to Usyk destroy his legacy? By that reckoning Ali destroyed his own legacy by losing to Frazier and Norton or Mike Tyson by not winning any of his big fights outside of a 38 year old Holmes and getting knocked out off buster. Haters and trolls. Boring! His career isn't even over yet.
Well said razor..uysk is to good Mr uysk is the best I've ever seen and I've been supporting boxing nearly sixty years I love uysk beautiful man beautiful boxer good bless mr uysk thank you...
@@paulhaley5009 So you think Usyk is the best you've ever seen and because of that it would destroy Furys legacy. Can't you see how stupid that is.
Mind you coming from someone who doesn't know the difference between to and too, basic 11 years old English it doesn't surprise me.
Fury is washed after all the wars
Fury loses again
Without the steroids and loaded gloves he has 0 chance
I don't like him but i don't think the loaded gloves is a fair comment
For the record, he lost the first fight by TKO. Real boxing fans know that.
In my opinion fury won if not draw everyone just got there head up Ukraine's a**e. Ubitch won a couple of the later rounds but was outboxed the first half of the fight.
It wasn’t a TKO it was a good call by the ref, fury kept fighting after the barrage and lasted till the final round. TKO and stoppages are to protect fighters that have no chance of coming back. Fury has shown multiple times he can come back from severe damage why would the ref stop the fight knowing that and the fact that Tyson was still standing. Also it’s forgotten that the barrage only happened because Tyson refused to go down, he could of taken a knee and been fine yet no one respects the fact the man remained standing for so long.
@@jasonfreedomofspeechbell end
Usyk fans calling that a TKO shows just how pussified boxing has become
Can Fury win the rematch? It's possible, will he win the rematch? Absolutely not
In the first match, I was very confident that Uysk would win. I am not sure about the second one. I will say it will controversially end in a draw.
Fury gets beat even easier in the rematch. Just watch
The fact that no one noticed anything suspicious in the Usyk corner in between round 7 and 8 is wild to me..
Inhaler, smelling salts, or just the Holy Ghost of a “crucifix”… looked like foul play to me, esp considering how he was getting wrecked for a few rounds until he came out in round 8 like he had a rocket up his ass. Check the tape for yourself before replying to this comment.
I was a big Usyk fan before that, he was one of my favorite fighters, but that was so sus and sketch that he immediately lost my respect.
Clean fight: Fury in 8.
Dirty fight: Usyk MD
The reason no one is discussing it is because it's pure B.S. It's been debunked already. The reason this seems suspicious to you is you clearly know nothing about Usyk despite claiming to be a fan of his previously. You claim Usyk was "Getting wrecked" then suddenly came out in round 8 like a rocket?
#1 - No, Usyk objectively was NOT "Getting wrecked". He gave up a few rounds to Fury, but was NOT getting wrecked as you claim. If you truly believe that, then for the love of god, please go crack open a book on how to score a fight.
#2 - Every knows Usyks style of taking of a round or 2 in order to conserve energy for the championship rounds, which is EXACTLY what he was doing here as he always does. He did the exact same thing against AJ, when in round 9 everyone who is ignorant of boxing like you, claimed AJ was whipping up on him and winning, only for Usyk to come out in round 10 and re-establish dominance. They claim "AJ just stopped what was working" which is such a ridiculous notion to think AJ just "stopped"? Why, because he didn't want to win? No, he "Stopped" because Usyk hit the gas again now that his fuel tank was full again, and AJ couldn't do a darn thing about it. This is EXACTLY what Usyk did against Fury, and it's rather sad you needed this explained to you.
Add to this the context that Usyk was handily winning the first 3 rounds. By round 4, Fury began to figure out what Usyk was doing, and by round 5 Fury had a new gameplan to counter. So Usyk had to go a few rounds re-downloading Fury's changes, and build a new gameplan of his own to counter Furys counter. Which is exactly what he did. Usyk being Usyk, he took this time to refuel himself and back off as well, so he both downloaded Furys new counter, figured him out, and refueled his tank all in one go and by round 8 he switched back on.
Don't believe me? Go watch the changes in Usyks offense by round 8. It's quite different from the earlier rounds, because Usyk figured out Fury. Or are you so ignorant that you actually believe a champion level boxer would keep attacking with the same vigor when their opponent has a strong counter? No... Hang back, go more defensive, conserve energy, and figure out how you're going to win. That's what Usyk did, once figured out, he hit the gas and pretty much TKO'd Fury. Hope you learned something today.
Oh, and the crucifix? Usyk has always been deeply religious and has kissed, or touched it in other matches before this one. But nice try with the insane conspiracy theory.
You’re a delusional fella aren’t you.
Everything is checked by opposite teams, refs and judges. There was no smelling salts, no inhaler.
Just a plain crucifix that Usyk has had with him for religious purposes.
Nothing suspicious happened and it was a fair fight. Don’t cope and if you are a Fury dan don’t feed in delusion and support the guy to get better.
Fans like you are the reason fighters become delusional. Happened to Wilder and Chisora and it can happen to Fury.
Fury beat the biggest puncher in wilder yes but anyone who knows how to box can beat wilder he is trash 😂. Fury only survived round 9 against usyk because the ref saved him