Yhhhoooo utata wabantu, yhini nkosi yam. Cause kuzobizwa omnye nje ujudge, mhlawumbe lo ebezoti there is no enough evidence lo ozofika ati ujp suliqalela ati life to all including our musician. Yhoooo Jesu mvikele Bawo yhini ecula kamnandi kanje intombi yam
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you gotta love Niiiiisi mr BOMBASTIC💣 'unless you are creating your own little law in your little corner there'🤠hae we aint in church tlogela sermon and look at niisi coz he is yours and you are his(his&hers)😍sataforikans prptect Niiiisiii🙏🏿✝️
I think Ratha's judgement sways the wrong direction because of poverty. Retired life is not all that glossy. If they did promise to line his pockets what else could the poor old judge do? Hearing the sounds of the leg irons (chains) of accused for a planted crime does not bother him at all
Another case that was high profile and was broadcast extensively in the country, is the Oscar Pistorius case.. I remember even today that that happened 14 February 2013... So if i remember that, is it questionable? Im not following Gininda's Reasoning here
😮😮😮the state is shocking... Mnisi: were you part of the discussion (yes or no) Gininder explain..😢which school did Ginanda attend mara.Did he do grade 1???
Mna i give up. Chicco must be a trillionaire he paid so many people in this casejust for Longwe who accidentally shot Chicco and shared his bag of money pic with Kelly and acc 3 so that he can frame all 5 accused, So Gininda, Ratha and Baloyi tried to cover up, took those 5 innocent people and took acc no3 s catridge or whatever was there and plant it so that even Kelly can be framed but Kelly cannot even say a word, she would rather go down for a person who accodentally shot Senzo. Nzoke ndiyixoxele umzukulwana wam lo una 2years.
Ntosh akho kwaLongwe wadubula uSenzo....umntu okholelwa lonto ukholelwa entsomini..,the person who shot Senzo is sitting there in court...if ngubani plz read between the lines...That 375 docket is a joke....21/11/2024
WE NEED TO SEE THE CELL REGISTER OR VISITORS' BOOK !!!!!! AND WHAT WE MUST FIND THERE IS THAT THERE WAS A PRIOR COMMUNATION BETWEEN THE ACCUSED AND MJIYAKO. IF THERE IS NONE, THEN GININDA IS THE ONE WHO ORGANISED MJIYAKO IN ORDER TO MAKE THE ACCUSED CONFESS THROUGH GININDA'S ASSOCIATE !!!!!!!!! AND YES MJIYAKO AND GININDA KNOW EACH OTHER.
Long unnecessary explanations always result into confusion. As an LLB student u need to stick to the questions asked for every one to be able to follow & not doze off to sleep😂
Defence teams knows that their clients are guilty because of all the evidence brought to court. They are just pushing time especially Mnisi. Ramosepele is very smart that's y he didn't waist his energy for defending these liers
You do know that a "yes" and "no" is not an answer but a way of incriminating yourself, right? An explanation is a way of driving a point home. How do you expect to conclude on a statement with half information that dwells on a certain narrative? Be impartial, and you will understand what is at play here
@@tshililomelvinnekhavhambe3601which evidence are you talking about this people new they did not have any evidence that is why they ended on doing confession DNA everything took those guys away from that crime scene now wena what evidence are you talking about
@@Mbali-ho6bw We view this case differently and our opinions are also different. Some believe in hearsay evidence without prove and some listen to the evidence brought in court
The truth will never chsnge. Ginindas statement is still the same as in trial within atrial. Mr jokes can make jokes till kingdom comes but the punch is not there. Hey uyashayana uGininda, ipunch yake imbeta umntu aye le abhayize ati eteta ngeproformer abe eteta ngesibanye mine
I couldn't even understand how this judge ruled in favor of Gininda crew in that confession ( trial within a trial) that was clear lies, they even say they were giving them takeaways(KFC's) to eat with them, while the scars of handcuffs still exist to this date, justice ngumnqundu nje obolileyo, they went to school for so long for that nonsense, they will be relying on the cases that happened long ago before democracy, this law needs to be reviewed, it's no more relevant
Is painful and difficult because the truth is that these guys were forced to sign the so called confessions and now they are trying to show the court that they didn't do it freely. Now this Mjiyako why is he not showing up so that people can believe that indeed is someone who is alive and who represented accused two in doing the confession.these guys were forced njheeee.
@@samolesesa132 What I know is that Law society doesn't allow any Lawyer to be a witness. If you remember during Trial within a trial....Mjiyako letter was presented in court to confirm if he's a lawyer.
Aaikhona its game over for all this guys gonindas testimony its on VVVip level if the leading IO was someone else i blv the outcome would be different thats why he came last bathi Save the best for Last👌🏽
Very unscrupulous lawyers (Mnjiyago & other 2 lawyers) . This is where the funny confession started. Liaising with the magistrate and Gininda that the accused had a confession to make. The magistrate included. Part of the Gininda bad gang
He wants to run away from Mnjiyago' s involvement in the soliciting of the confession. Attorney without credentials. A thief of an attorney who was involved in crimes.
Goninda is not smart. He is cuning. ( Clever in a cruel manner) He fails to answer straight forward questions. Unless he pays someone to write those 6 modules.
For me I don't hear defense defending the accused ,all they are Saying is about the confesion statements hence some ppl are thinking his defending number 2....They are are throwing each other's clients under the bus...Just like their line of questioning is throwing Kelly under the the bus
They throwing Kelly cause they know its lies that they are giong to drop the charges against Kelly when the accused are found guilty and say the accused lied to protect their Master mind, if the state is serous Kelly would be on the dock😂😂
@@sindiswamabunda5627To catch the calprit, u hv to go thru all angles in a circlic quad, should it be opposite, alternate, corresponding angles or angles at the circumference, it really don't matter😂
Jah Mugane meaning he only brief gininda on what can implicate the Accused y gininda don't know that ntanzi said wat happen on the 26 2014,as he got those news on news paper.
My prophecy is that. Ratha will not finish this trial. Leevy - 21/11/2024
Yhhhoooo utata wabantu, yhini nkosi yam. Cause kuzobizwa omnye nje ujudge, mhlawumbe lo ebezoti there is no enough evidence lo ozofika ati ujp suliqalela ati life to all including our musician. Yhoooo Jesu mvikele Bawo yhini ecula kamnandi kanje intombi yam
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you gotta love Niiiiisi mr BOMBASTIC💣 'unless you are creating your own little law in your little corner there'🤠hae we aint in church tlogela sermon and look at niisi coz he is yours and you are his(his&hers)😍sataforikans prptect Niiiisiii🙏🏿✝️
Hi/her/them oh I love Mnisi
@nombuzoedithmahlangu3755 lerato le mo phefong 🫶🏿
KELLY MUST BE BOYCOTTED.ALL HIS BUSINESSESmust not supported.any show on TV.or music. Now is the time Mzanzi.Aluta continue
🤞
Ramosepele has done alot of damage so Mnisi he's trying to fix then after he'll deal with Gininda😂
If this judge hates South Africa this much, why can't he go to England
Correct, he must just leave cause he blames everything about parliament and government 😂
But Gininda, you knew Mjiyakho because u were working together
It's been 10 years ago but we all remember the date coz every 26th of Oct.. It will be on socials
Not every person on the street knows that Senzo Meyiwa was killed on the 26th of October 2014, learn to think critically and not like a 2 year old.
My queen 👑 Mshololo,hair style, ❤
I think Ratha's judgement sways the wrong direction because of poverty. Retired life is not all that glossy. If they did promise to line his pockets what else could the poor old judge do? Hearing the sounds of the leg irons (chains) of accused for a planted crime does not bother him at all
Bring Mnjiyago's 205 so we see how he was communicating with accused no 2 soliciting his services. A very unscrupulous lawyer
Another case that was high profile and was broadcast extensively in the country, is the Oscar Pistorius case.. I remember even today that that happened 14 February 2013... So if i remember that, is it questionable?
Im not following Gininda's Reasoning here
Judge Tavern refutes that he has never been in a tavern?
Mr Mnisi ❤❤❤❤ how you always (thank you) phezukwakhe gwinyinja
This case is for CHICCO better go fix his mess with his own sons. Bcz they gonna bring him down
2:00:39 This Police think we are stupid, why did they take him there
Ratha Likes to be a Witness in his court.
😮😮😮the state is shocking...
Mnisi: were you part of the discussion (yes or no)
Gininder explain..😢which school did Ginanda attend mara.Did he do grade 1???
Thought Gininda said ntanzi doesn't need a lawyer to make confession all the suddenly There's mjiyako
Defence should call Mjiyakho
Baloyi that wasn't necessary to ask about when zung testified on about the interaction with accused number 2
Mnisi phezu kwake Gininda Simula must come and explain to court
The judge must give us a break with his distracting tactics. History not necessary here.
Tuesday it's going to be hectic 😂
Mnisi smile kills me
I wonder which law lecturer taught Gininda the word "colloberate"?
And it sounds very foolish if you ask me
How many times he had to read that Mnisi is just killing time
Even mxololo did read this warning statement on trial withn trial
Mna i give up. Chicco must be a trillionaire he paid so many people in this casejust for Longwe who accidentally shot Chicco and shared his bag of money pic with Kelly and acc 3 so that he can frame all 5 accused, So Gininda, Ratha and Baloyi tried to cover up, took those 5 innocent people and took acc no3 s catridge or whatever was there and plant it so that even Kelly can be framed but Kelly cannot even say a word, she would rather go down for a person who accodentally shot Senzo. Nzoke ndiyixoxele umzukulwana wam lo una 2years.
My mistake- who shot Senzo i mean
Ntosh akho kwaLongwe wadubula uSenzo....umntu okholelwa lonto ukholelwa entsomini..,the person who shot Senzo is sitting there in court...if ngubani plz read between the lines...That 375 docket is a joke....21/11/2024
Yhooooo, i give up
Imagine😂. People don't have common sense anymore. 😂😂😂
Most people believe in hearsay evidence. That's y some of the defence are scared to come back to court to prove their evidence that they put in court
Gininda is a smooth operator. The articulation of English words is just a way to fool us. The man can lie,yoooh. He talks and explains too much
Been saying that, coz he knows to fool a black man u speak proper English so they can believe u 😅😅😅
Mr let me put it in proper context 😅😂😂😂jah ne
😂😂😂
In essence. Part 1. Part3 movie Star
I agree but….whats wrong with this cop…he want to change the law to justify why he did not follow the legal steps about statements taken
WE NEED TO SEE THE CELL REGISTER OR VISITORS' BOOK !!!!!! AND WHAT WE MUST FIND THERE IS THAT THERE WAS A PRIOR COMMUNATION BETWEEN THE ACCUSED AND MJIYAKO. IF THERE IS NONE, THEN GININDA IS THE ONE WHO ORGANISED MJIYAKO IN ORDER TO MAKE THE ACCUSED CONFESS THROUGH GININDA'S ASSOCIATE !!!!!!!!! AND YES MJIYAKO AND GININDA KNOW EACH OTHER.
AND NO IT WASNT DONE THROUGH THE ACCUSSED FAMILY, BECAUSE THERE WAS THEN THERE MUST BE A VISITOR'S BOOK FROM FAMILY MEMBER !!
Rata you got youth that must also enjoying life your time on earth is almost dun do the right thing plz
Long unnecessary explanations always result into confusion. As an LLB student u need to stick to the questions asked for every one to be able to follow & not doze off to sleep😂
Defence teams knows that their clients are guilty because of all the evidence brought to court. They are just pushing time especially Mnisi. Ramosepele is very smart that's y he didn't waist his energy for defending these liers
You do know that a "yes" and "no" is not an answer but a way of incriminating yourself, right? An explanation is a way of driving a point home. How do you expect to conclude on a statement with half information that dwells on a certain narrative? Be impartial, and you will understand what is at play here
@@tshililomelvinnekhavhambe3601which evidence are you talking about this people new they did not have any evidence that is why they ended on doing confession DNA everything took those guys away from that crime scene now wena what evidence are you talking about
@@Mbali-ho6bw We view this case differently and our opinions are also different. Some believe in hearsay evidence without prove and some listen to the evidence brought in court
Gninda throw in the towel its baloy and CHICCO mess this go fetch spaza ppl
No No No Marike no damage or whatsoever was done to this witness.....viewed objectively he is cruising...21/11/2024
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7ushe is not cruising he is just talking just to confuse people. Gininda is lying
The truth will never chsnge. Ginindas statement is still the same as in trial within atrial. Mr jokes can make jokes till kingdom comes but the punch is not there. Hey uyashayana uGininda, ipunch yake imbeta umntu aye le abhayize ati eteta ngeproformer abe eteta ngesibanye mine
Ntosh you are following this case properly I can hear you....21/11/2024
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us😂😂🤣🤣😭
How come ma mfundisi had the accused phone in church
Why 89% of his answers are explained and given essences.?
Simply because u cannot plaster using sand only😂
I couldn't even understand how this judge ruled in favor of Gininda crew in that confession ( trial within a trial) that was clear lies, they even say they were giving them takeaways(KFC's) to eat with them, while the scars of handcuffs still exist to this date, justice ngumnqundu nje obolileyo, they went to school for so long for that nonsense, they will be relying on the cases that happened long ago before democracy, this law needs to be reviewed, it's no more relevant
It's just simple thing to remember the dates, why is it suspicious to Gininda if one recalls the date?
Linda Mnisi😢😢😢😢
Kudlalwa ngathi lapho, this is kids play ground
Ratha always colluding
"Constitution is the soprume document of this country"😂😂😂
"In respect of this matter."😂😂😂
Mjiyakho the gosth
Zinhle mbhele i can see you dont understand this case
Mnisi is on point
Yena Gininda uyazaziwayephi nge 26 ka October 2014
Uzofeyila lo mase ebhala uzobuzwa igama lakhe elichaze ukuthi lakhandwa kanjan
😂😂🤣🤣
Gininda did nt 4lo the directions. He just wanted took arrest this accused persons without 4allowing the right procedure.
Is painful and difficult because the truth is that these guys were forced to sign the so called confessions and now they are trying to show the court that they didn't do it freely. Now this Mjiyako why is he not showing up so that people can believe that indeed is someone who is alive and who represented accused two in doing the confession.these guys were forced njheeee.
The defense refused to call mjiyako to court Mos 😂
The law doesn't allow a lawyer to be a witness
But the magistrate can be a witness not a lawyer according to law? Just asking
Unless Acc2 agree, client/lawyer confidentiality what what. Only the defence can call Mr Mjiyako. Theywill not call hiim🤞
@@samolesesa132 What I know is that Law society doesn't allow any Lawyer to be a witness. If you remember during Trial within a trial....Mjiyako letter was presented in court to confirm if he's a lawyer.
Adv Mngo has been muted 🔕
Ucinga uba uziytata pi imali ka esue wa by the people because of defamation of character. Uzoboshwa lowo
Aaikhona its game over for all this guys gonindas testimony its on VVVip level if the leading IO was someone else i blv the outcome would be different thats why he came last bathi Save the best for Last👌🏽
Take away the confessions... There's no case...
One question one unser not one question bring history sory we listen a case not history please
Mnisi and Mngomezulu won't finish this trial. They are in their own world.
So you don't want and know the truth if you think like that
Gininda answers even the questions that they are still going to ask . So doing he destroyed their plans. So they became frustrated.
Very unscrupulous lawyers (Mnjiyago & other 2 lawyers) . This is where the funny confession started. Liaising with the magistrate and Gininda that the accused had a confession to make. The magistrate included. Part of the Gininda bad gang
Hay hay Busi andivumi.....njani???? 21/11/2024
How can Gininda rope in even a Magistrate??? 21/11/2024
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7usdon't mind them , they are in denial 😅😅😅😅they can see defense has failed😅😅
Ndaaaa ndolevhuwa ngamanda.....Macheroni...21/11/2024
He wants to run away from Mnjiyago' s involvement in the soliciting of the confession. Attorney without credentials. A thief of an attorney who was involved in crimes.
Mnisi is too weak
Goninda is not smart. He is cuning. ( Clever in a cruel manner) He fails to answer straight forward questions. Unless he pays someone to write those 6 modules.
Baloyi yoooh!! Your conscience is rotten
Waze wanamanga uGininda
Andivumi Bhungane tuuuu ....this witness is very straightforward and reliable....21/11/2024
Asazi owadl mali😂😂😂
The case is still on for today proceeding
Gininda I salute you keep it don't let the difference to intimidate you because you know your story 👍
@@isabelllamame1743 But Mnisi put Gininda on his lane now Gininda knows how to answer kwaaa I like 🤣🤣🤣🤣
why are people on their phones?
They are journalists
Exactly not interested
I respect Advocate RamoSepedi
His line of questioning 👌
For me I don't hear defense defending the accused ,all they are Saying is about the confesion statements hence some ppl are thinking his defending number 2....They are are throwing each other's clients under the bus...Just like their line of questioning is throwing Kelly under the the bus
Stand to differ
True, some people call it clever
They throwing Kelly cause they know its lies that they are giong to drop the charges against Kelly when the accused are found guilty and say the accused lied to protect their Master mind, if the state is serous Kelly would be on the dock😂😂
U not following
Thats why B.Proc was so difficult...u were never gonna pass.
Judge fakazile can't hold himself he's trying by all means to cover up for the witness. Ratha no!!!! Umdala maaan for your actions
What is happening now are they done for yhe day
Confisticated , kusho Mnisi
Ramosepele has failed us dismally
Gininda is sailing
Adv Mnisi trying so hard and failing so hard also
Where are they now
Abasekho live onke amaplatforms
Gininda is plunging mnisi into disarray, Gininda can't answer by yes or no
Ngicela ningicasisele uMnisi namhlanje umele uAccuse nu 2 usiza uAdv Ramasopele?
When you cross examine, you can cross examine about anything a witness testified on Yikho ebizwa nango accused 2. Ay ngoba emumele.
Umele iTEAM
@@sindiswamabunda5627To catch the calprit, u hv to go thru all angles in a circlic quad, should it be opposite, alternate, corresponding angles or angles at the circumference, it really don't matter😂
The confession of accuse 2 points Mnisi client as the shooter that is why he tries to discredit any evidence about accuse 2 to save accuse 3
I was having the same question....21/11/2024
Shaya lento sambe Adv Mnisi its late already
Kwenziwani la
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤mnimisi we mvula
Was the guildlines adhered to ,,yes or no???Gininda
This cross examination is not in anyway assisting the accused, i say this with utmost respect to Mr Mnisi....21/11/2024
Baphi
Hi
Uzozwa Mnisi udibene neembila zithutha laa bathe uyawazi umthetho buyela back to varsity ntate Mnisi
Nidlakamnandi lapho ejele ninonile kakhulu
you can even say " HAAAI " wena Mnisi
I can tell Gininda is studying Law. Is playing smart, it just need a smart defense council to catch him
He is not smart he is just try to cover up because he eat money of Chicco
@everbote7858 ,"playing smart" for sure is not smart. Hence I say the defense needs a smart people to catch him
He is not even trying he is smarter than all 5 adv combined
@@NtombikayiseDanisa , nope
Ayeyeye Gininda mbambe mfana la amncane khona lo Mnisi ucabanga ukuthi uyini
😂Indeed
Mnisi is disrespecting Mr gininda
Without success at50:25 Gininda is correcting him. Also teaching him a thing or 2 about a warning statement and playing with his head a bit
Very disrespectful and it's wrong cos the brigadier always answers with respect
@@NtombikayiseDanisa why you always against the defence cc na
@@KennyMulaudzi. Mnisi don't owe any respect to Gininda. Mnisi know that Gininda is a Bully
Mnisi think making noise will scare gininda
Ratha
Jah Mugane meaning he only brief gininda on what can implicate the Accused y gininda don't know that ntanzi said wat happen on the 26 2014,as he got those news on news paper.
You!! Mnisi’s way of taking notes is questionable!!!!!!
Cos naturally when I take notes I write the Date ...especially formal notes
😂
Mnisi u are a small boi, u think u r the captain in this ship
It now apparent why MNISI left procecution he is very Dumb
Sihlekani lesigebengu
Brigadier Gininda
Ratha is Sirius righting
Rata jy luistef 2 jaar. Youth got no jobs bcz of you get 2 salaries
Mnisi thinks he is in a tarven
Gininda was on fire with his articulated answering,he was the man of the match today,💥
😂
Edakwa loyo sathane
@@tmahlangu9079. Gininda is a fool so Mnisi call him to order
Man of the match,njani?