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Should Note That Wooting since mid 2023 come with Lekker 1.5 (newer batch) has far better tolerance and sound. Gamakay, Akko, Monsgeek and Red Dragon using proprietary switch with no mounting pin making so that it is hard to find replacement like Gateron Magnetic Jade, It requires clipping mounting pin of Gateron Magnetic Jade to put in them, And also same software and firmware so it will be best to avoid them. Keychron Arbiter Studio, Higround, EndgameGear are switch based on Gateron KS-37 it isn't compatible with Lekker or Jade (They use difference Magnet), but they have they own version like Jade Mini E Akko Year of Dragon and Monsgeek M1 HE SP come with fake 8000hz mode that only work on roar key, but other key are 125hz. (fixed) Melgeek has web driver But it is kinda clunky and RGB is very bad with no profile switching key. hive melgeek cn EGG and Polar 65 isn't the same Polar 65 has web driver, and actually fixed the issue, but EGG has only added low latency mode that only work on 0.4 0.8 1.2 RT configurations
The Akko YoD and Monsgeek have since fixed the issue with 8k polling with their latest firmware, as it now reaches 8k in both modes. Not that I think it changes it's position on Koi's list but as an owner of the YoD it feels better after updating. 🙏
does anyone actually have an objective review of HE boards? the only one i have seen use an actual latency tester was a thai reviewer, using XLAT latency test... in his review Redragon K683-WB had about 5ms of PCB input delay in both key press and key release, Wooting 60HE had about 0.8ms in both KP,KR , Sayodevice o3c had 0.777ms KP and 1.362 KR. The test had 500 samples of KP and KR per board/device
I recommend looking at the hummingbird68 for the future, affordable custom HE keyboard which is in pre-order right now. Also custom HE parts from GEON would be nice to see within an actual custom keyboard, you obviously seem to have the budget for it and could assemble one yourself.
Yo dude ,how has it been , any updates on the software part, also are u satisfied with the quality? any creeks(weird noises), any problems showed up in this period that u have been using the keyboard? tnx for the reply.
I’ve just received my ez63 and I’m absolutely thrilled with it! The keyboard itself is amazing even in its basic form. Its responsiveness has really stood out to me and has noticeably improved my performance in ranked matches. I actually prefer it over my Wooting!
Yo dude ,how has it been , any updates on the software part, also are u satisfied with the quality? any creeks(weird noises), any problems showed up in this period that u have been using the keyboard? tnx for the reply.
I've got the Q1 HE and think it's an outstanding keyboard. I prefer the 65% form factor, though. I'd get the Iqunix, but it still doesn't have DKS. Another great looking 65% HE is the Pwnage Zenblade 65. It doesn't currently have DKS, either. I know Keychron has a 65% HE in the pipeline, too. I'll buy whichever offers DKS first.
hey, you missed the meletrix boog/zoom75. it's very good. might be on par with your keychron. heavy af, good sound, webdriver etc. meletrix is known for their high quality keyboards, just like keychron
One reason that I like Wooting above the rest, is that Wooting is the innovator that brought all of this forward. They're a company that will continue to innovate, and I think they deserve the money. I don't expect that from almost any other company. The rest of the market had plenty of time to do this, but didn't. If you want the best right now, it's possibly not Wooting, even though they're not slacking either, but if you want something better in the future, it's probably better if Wooting gets your money.
Just so you know, on the latest version of the wooding 60HE+, they did release the lekker v1.5 switches which sound and feel SOOO much better than the V1 lekkers which you have. Even in the stock wooting case I would say that the v1.5 switches sound the best out of every keyboard you tried
Dude, good video, always wanted to know how a professional OSU player would rate all these keyboards, but I still have a question - did you definitely update the firmware on all these keyboards? I can't speak for others, but Akko has released a lot of fixes for the overall click delay and scanrate \ pullrate. I'll be glad if you answer my comment
a guy that had both said wooting had features that werent needed and picked the apex pro over the wooting and now it has the same features as the wooting and you didnt even turn it on.
I’ve been having a red dragon keyboard for like 4 years it’s the red dragon Kumara K552 RGB and I might just switch to a k617 after seeing it’s for $44 on Amazon 😭
i think that the higround might be a customer to customer case cause mine seems to perform only slightly worse than my friend's wooting. still no software tho which super sucks. the keyboard has been amazing for the last week since i got it
did u even press confirm on the gamakay? i have the same keyboard and at first it felt like it didnt do anything but thats because i didn't press confirm
Prefer good native software than web, like the logitech g hub is pretty good and fast to access, but then you get a whole lot of junk like steelseries razor
I agree. I had so much trouble trying to make even aftermarket stabs sound good on the wooting. The wooting is so close to be unbeatable though. If they had screw in stabs (currently on 60he+ but still comes with plate stabs). An aluminium case for the price point. A gasket mount and better default plate like PC it couldn't be beat. Still a great performance board regardless.
i think it would be interesting if for a video like this you made 2 tierlists 1 ignoring price 1 with price as e.g. ignoring price the reddragon would be low but with price it would be higher up because of how cheap it is
steelseries keyboard F teir ive had 4 of them and they all have messed up and randomly start clicking random keys after a few days or week. they wont refund me....
Can anyone just give a text summary? I am very thankfull for that awesome test and content but i am also tired of watching 44 min to get to the knowhow that would take 20sec on a blog to read.
this tier list is purely just based on performance but for value the drunk deer a75 (and the g75, they are both the same in functionality but different layouts) is the best on the list since its only like 130(now on sale for like 110 and plus you can add a discount code) and gives out the most amount of value and also it has web launcher for the keyboard and even if you have the money for the keychron imo its better to get the drunk deer
@@scxrlethouse I wanted to, but a November ship date is too far away. Also, the plastic shell and rattling spacebar are pretty annoying. I folded and got the Q1 HE. Disappointed with no TKL but the aluminum shell is great.
This osu thing i don't understand, but thank you very much for in-depth comparison. It's extremely useful to know how they *perform*, which is surprisingly not tested properly in most reviews.
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red dragon? yeah, she fucks
Should Note That
Wooting since mid 2023 come with Lekker 1.5 (newer batch) has far better tolerance and sound.
Gamakay, Akko, Monsgeek and Red Dragon using proprietary switch with no mounting pin making so that it is hard to find replacement like Gateron Magnetic Jade, It requires clipping mounting pin of Gateron Magnetic Jade to put in them, And also same software and firmware so it will be best to avoid them.
Keychron Arbiter Studio, Higround, EndgameGear are switch based on Gateron KS-37 it isn't compatible with Lekker or Jade (They use difference Magnet), but they have they own version like Jade Mini E
Akko Year of Dragon and Monsgeek M1 HE SP come with fake 8000hz mode that only work on roar key, but other key are 125hz. (fixed)
Melgeek has web driver But it is kinda clunky and RGB is very bad with no profile switching key. hive melgeek cn
EGG and Polar 65 isn't the same Polar 65 has web driver, and actually fixed the issue, but EGG has only added low latency mode that only work on 0.4 0.8 1.2 RT configurations
EGG dev kinda abandoned their keyboard with no firmware update yet since May or something.
The Akko YoD and Monsgeek have since fixed the issue with 8k polling with their latest firmware, as it now reaches 8k in both modes. Not that I think it changes it's position on Koi's list but as an owner of the YoD it feels better after updating. 🙏
does anyone actually have an objective review of HE boards? the only one i have seen use an actual latency tester was a thai reviewer, using XLAT latency test... in his review Redragon K683-WB had about 5ms of PCB input delay in both key press and key release, Wooting 60HE had about 0.8ms in both KP,KR , Sayodevice o3c had 0.777ms KP and 1.362 KR. The test had 500 samples of KP and KR per board/device
Wanted to comment about melgeek having a web based software but my comment keep getting flagged for some reason. so, this 👆
@@ecnop9961 don't paste li***nk, I can't even say the word TH-cam won't let me
The budget on this video is unreal
me when i see a video that just got uploaded:
😮🎉
I recommend looking at the hummingbird68 for the future, affordable custom HE keyboard which is in pre-order right now.
Also custom HE parts from GEON would be nice to see within an actual custom keyboard, you obviously seem to have the budget for it and could assemble one yourself.
Great Video once again, thank you very much! Was looking for a rt Keyboard and now I know that the Keychron one is a good choice :D
unironically, my first mechanically keyboard that I not bought and modded was a redragon keyboard.
isnt that almost everyone, atleast thats what i am still stuck on a kumara redragon keyboard lol
just got my ez63 and this thing feels crazy good🔥
I'd pull the trigger on it but its ugly as sin with dumb looking key caps.
Yo dude ,how has it been , any updates on the software part, also are u satisfied with the quality? any creeks(weird noises), any problems showed up in this period that u have been using the keyboard?
tnx for the reply.
Babe wake up KoiFishu is back after his 1 month maternity leave 🗿
Daddy Koifishu has finally uploaded, I missed you daddy.
20$ membrane from amazon with rgb is all you need 🗿
of course rgb > rapid trigger
roaz method
Membrane makes my fingers hurt :(
How to boost your fps ---> RGB 😂
Coming from someone who has sensei and wump in their name. womp womp /;(
Agreed. I love the keychron q1he. Feels amazing to type and game on. Also looks so damn good.
bro actually had my attention throughout the whole video in these tiktok attention spam times, respect.
I’ve just received my ez63 and I’m absolutely thrilled with it! The keyboard itself is amazing even in its basic form. Its responsiveness has really stood out to me and has noticeably improved my performance in ranked matches. I actually prefer it over my Wooting!
Yo dude ,how has it been , any updates on the software part, also are u satisfied with the quality? any creeks(weird noises), any problems showed up in this period that u have been using the keyboard?
tnx for the reply.
I got the keychron q1 and love it. The knob, the wireless feature, and the connectivity makes it perfect!
i've been waiting for this
the KING has RETURNED
keep up the bangers koi 🔥🗣
The polar 65 has fixed actuation now and has had it for quite a while, and it's gonna release anytime soon for the kb65he
I've got the Q1 HE and think it's an outstanding keyboard. I prefer the 65% form factor, though. I'd get the Iqunix, but it still doesn't have DKS. Another great looking 65% HE is the Pwnage Zenblade 65. It doesn't currently have DKS, either. I know Keychron has a 65% HE in the pipeline, too. I'll buy whichever offers DKS first.
hey, you missed the meletrix boog/zoom75. it's very good. might be on par with your keychron. heavy af, good sound, webdriver etc. meletrix is known for their high quality keyboards, just like keychron
bro what i just spent 42 minutes watching a keyboard review that's insane
One reason that I like Wooting above the rest, is that Wooting is the innovator that brought all of this forward. They're a company that will continue to innovate, and I think they deserve the money. I don't expect that from almost any other company. The rest of the market had plenty of time to do this, but didn't. If you want the best right now, it's possibly not Wooting, even though they're not slacking either, but if you want something better in the future, it's probably better if Wooting gets your money.
Just so you know, on the latest version of the wooding 60HE+, they did release the lekker v1.5 switches which sound and feel SOOO much better than the V1 lekkers which you have. Even in the stock wooting case I would say that the v1.5 switches sound the best out of every keyboard you tried
If you wanted I can send you a sound test between the v1 and v1.5 in the wooting uwu
Dude, good video, always wanted to know how a professional OSU player would rate all these keyboards, but I still have a question - did you definitely update the firmware on all these keyboards? I can't speak for others, but Akko has released a lot of fixes for the overall click delay and scanrate \ pullrate. I'll be glad if you answer my comment
idk talking about drunkdeer i feel like turbo mode really cuts of a lot of input lag, not sure if its placebo
Recently got the sayodevice and I can confirm it does indeed have the knob
Just FYI for those who don't know, melgeek actuslly Has a Web software
Missing the Nuphy Field 75 HE. I've seen nothing but good things about it.
Akko the year of the dragon is literally themed like that because this year 2024 is the year of the dragon
The red led on the monsgeek should be the battery, might go off once fully charged.
Was going to upgrade to a non 60% keyboard for my new laptop I got a few weeks back and this is perfectly timed
Why didn't you include atk68/75 or rs7? which I think are fairly good options.(rs7 got .5mm rt and 8khz polling rate)
only Cidoo C75 was missing
@KoiFishu How would you rank NuPhy Field75 HE compared to those keyboards?
a guy that had both said wooting had features that werent
needed and picked the apex pro over the wooting and now it has the same features as the wooting and you didnt even turn it on.
Translation in English? I read it twice and I'm kind of lost.
I don't even care if it is raked. That's impressive.
There's also a YUNZII RT75 keyboard. I wonder how it compares to these
Getting a Wooting 60HE+ in my country is like 280 dollars.
But worth it IMO
@@Kreepykiralyheeeeell nah
skill issue 🤑
@@mikseking 🤑🤑🤑
@@mansurrrrrrrrrrrrr ye shipping alone cost 60 dollars already, then tax 💀💀
thank u so much finally someone caring about this
Waiting for 10 year osu journey
I’ve been having a red dragon keyboard for like 4 years it’s the red dragon Kumara K552 RGB and I might just switch to a k617 after seeing it’s for $44 on Amazon 😭
you should try out the Attack Shark K85, its around 74~ USD its the cheapest RT HE keyboard ive seen
guys i found the best rapid trigger keyboard keyboard. The apex tlk 3 with no rapid trigger and no multiple presses
should've played blue dragon with the red dragon smh my head
Try the Looting66 keyboard very cheap and decent performance, software is a bit iffy though but easy to understand
Pls add YUNZII RT75 to the list. I'm curious to see where it would be on the list.
Thx for the review. This is very infromative.
i think that the higround might be a customer to customer case cause mine seems to perform only slightly worse than my friend's wooting. still no software tho which super sucks. the keyboard has been amazing for the last week since i got it
damn, have you try the Atk vxe rs7!?
did u even press confirm on the gamakay? i have the same keyboard and at first it felt like it didnt do anything but thats because i didn't press confirm
how's your hair now my goat koifishu
okay getting the gamakey
i broke 20k with the Gamakay, then it broke me, 10/10.. would break again
I know what I’m doing with my next paycheck
i own a gamakey tk68he and you can set dead zone to 0 and actuation to 0.1 and switches feel nice
Would you please show me how to choose between Oasis75 and Keychron Q1he?
redragon did pretty good for the price tbh
My working 80he will arrive in 1 month now :D
FINALLY AN UPLOAD!
goat is back
I think I'm gonna go with the Wooting 80HE, just because I dont like 60% and they are the only good ones that have a German Keyboard.
sikakeyb hm66/ sikakeyb castle ck75 opninion?
i heard it should have a actuation of 0.01mm and so faster than the iqunix ez60/63
PLA MAP NAME AT 21:50 !!!! PLZ DOES ANYONE KNOW?
Prefer good native software than web, like the logitech g hub is pretty good and fast to access, but then you get a whole lot of junk like steelseries razor
came here just to justfify my q1 he purchase lol
Are made68 and made68 pro shown here different products?
Ordered the wooting 80he with zinc alloy and it was quite expensive lol
? Apex pro is literally almost the same build as wooting, the rapid trigger is up there with wooting, the software isn’t that bad ngl. It deserves A
How do you configure it, I have it but never tried the rapid trigger
@@PhanteonOP if you have the old one I think it’s software update and it should be in the app
I'm surprised that the boog75 isn't on the list
My experience with the wooting 60he is
THE SPACE BAR SOUNDS LIKE LEGOS COLAPSING😂😂
I agree. I had so much trouble trying to make even aftermarket stabs sound good on the wooting. The wooting is so close to be unbeatable though. If they had screw in stabs (currently on 60he+ but still comes with plate stabs). An aluminium case for the price point. A gasket mount and better default plate like PC it couldn't be beat. Still a great performance board regardless.
i think it would be interesting if for a video like this you made 2 tierlists
1 ignoring price
1 with price
as e.g. ignoring price the reddragon would be low
but with price it would be higher up because of how cheap it is
steelseries keyboard F teir ive had 4 of them and they all have messed up and randomly start clicking random keys after a few days or week. they wont refund me....
Can anyone just give a text summary? I am very thankfull for that awesome test and content but i am also tired of watching 44 min to get to the knowhow that would take 20sec on a blog to read.
or then you can just download the transcript and ask an ai to summarize it for you
you can commonly find the apex pro for around 100$ so that is a very different price change
hi im a shitty 5 digit and ive been using normal switches for the longest but switched to the cyber01 months ago i rlly like imo
i just bought my wooting yesterday and now this drops 😭
why is my fabricator black
What about attack shark k85 and vgn a75? Also trash like gamakay?
im between the IQUNIX EZ62 and the Razer Huntsmen v3
What did you end up buying?
@@ec0official the former
woot woot
Razer keyboards always sucked ass and were expensive
the gamakey is fine. prob a defective unit or sm
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thinking of getting the keychron but i hate anything other than TKL, can y'all tell me which one's the best?
this tier list is purely just based on performance but for value the drunk deer a75 (and the g75, they are both the same in functionality but different layouts) is the best on the list since its only like 130(now on sale for like 110 and plus you can add a discount code) and gives out the most amount of value and also it has web launcher for the keyboard and even if you have the money for the keychron imo its better to get the drunk deer
@@ItsGamingHours looks good but i'm looking for a TKL one
@@realfuzy well sadly there isnt a tkl keyboard, except the wooting 80he that has every key from a tkl but just a little different layout
Dunkerdeer G65 is good?
How hard is it to get a TKL board?? It's like omg every single board is a copy paste 60.
God forbid you want to do something productive with the thing
There are TKL HE components for custom keyboards, look at the Venom PCB from GEON
There's literally so many 75% on this board which are pretty similar to TKL's but not as ugly
@@PhoenixKeebs Notice how I specifically mentioned TKL and not "similar to TKL"
just wait for the 80he
@@scxrlethouse I wanted to, but a November ship date is too far away. Also, the plastic shell and rattling spacebar are pretty annoying.
I folded and got the Q1 HE. Disappointed with no TKL but the aluminum shell is great.
Am I the only one who has ghost input on sayodevice?
(I tried native outemu pink and geonworks raptor whish made it a little better)
Drunkdeer GOAT
This osu thing i don't understand, but thank you very much for in-depth comparison. It's extremely useful to know how they *perform*, which is surprisingly not tested properly in most reviews.
Where is ATK RS7
u should review the irok na87
Where is the boog75?
apex pro is the worst, i bought one and it stopped working after 3 months, so i just got a drunkdeer g60
you were either doing something wrong with it or just got unlucky. mine has been going for 3+ years now with zero issues.
new koifishu vid :))
Membrane until 1000pp play
The akko year of dragon did had rgb
Wish there was atk68 in there
Osu!Lazer vidéo to react to the new changes when !
try the attackshark k85, it has rapid trigger and almost the same price as the k617
finally a new vid
Wheres Yunzii tho. 😢