DON'T FINANCE A CAR - BE A CERTI DRIVER WITH A CHEAP SAXO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- This will make you a certi driver and that's a guarantee! We check out Rodrigo's epic Citroen Saxo West Coast that he only paid £50 for! What a lucky find this was, and now with a Saxo VTS motor swap she goes as well as she looks. Awesome little car with epic handling, ample power and tons of character! Hopefully it shows you you don't need to get into mad debt with a financed car to have heaps of fun on the road and at the track! Hope you guys enjoy the video, fresh content every week! Make sure to subscribe, comment and like the video to help keep epic content coming! Respect, ML
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DON'T FINANCE A CAR - BE A CERTI DRIVER WITH A CHEAP SAXO
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Saxo Info
The Citroën Saxo was a supermini produced by the French manufacturer Citroën from 1996 to 2004. It was sold in Japan as the Citroën Chanson, because Honda had registered the "Saxo" name.[2] As a badge engineered variant of the Peugeot 106 (which itself was a development of the Citroën AX), the major difference being interiors and body panels. Production ended in 2004, when it was replaced with the Citroën C2 and Citroën C3.
All engines were from the PSA TU engine series that powered the Peugeot 205 from 1988 and the Citroën AX, and had their roots before that with the OHC PSA X engine various other PSA cars used, such as the Citroën Visa, Peugeot 104 and early Peugeot 205. The range included five petrol engines and one diesel engine, all naturally aspirated.
Although the quoted power outputs are low in comparison to modern small hatchbacks, or even to other hatchbacks of the time, the kerb weight was generally very low, with even the range-topping VTS having a kerb weight of just 935 kg (2,061 lb), with other smaller engine models (except the diesel) being around 100 kg lighter than this.
This meant a high power to weight ratio resulting in decent acceleration and made the car suitable for city driving. Aside from the VTS which had 16 valves, all engines were the older SOHC units which meant relatively low city MPG figures.
The real world consumption between the smaller engines and the nippy 1.4i Westcoast/Furio variant was hardly noticeable, however the insurance premiums were. The early 1.0i was quite under powered, with the 1.1i being considered much better, since it was nearly 200cc larger and had roughly 30% more torque.
There were three sport models of the Saxo:
The Westcoast, later replaced by the Furio which featured a 1.4I 8V 55 kW (75 hp) engine with a top speed of 175 km/h (109 mph), and a 0-62.5 mph (0-100 km/h) time of 11.2 seconds.
The VTR MK1 (1997-1999) featured a fuel injected, 1.6-liter 8-valve 66 kW (90 hp) engine with a top speed of 187 km/h (116 mph) and a 0-62.5 mph (0-100 km/h) time of 10.0 seconds. The VTR MK2 (1999-2003) featured a 1.6I 8V 72 kW (98 hp) engine with a top speed of 193 km/h (120 mph) and a 0-62.5 mph (0-100 km/h) time of 9.4 seconds.
The VTS 16V featured a 1.6I 88 kW (120 hp) engine with a top speed of 205 km/h (127 mph), and a 0 to 60 mph time of 7.8 seconds. The VTS MK1 (1997-1999) and MK2 (1999-2003) shared similar performance, although the MK2 was slightly slower due to it being marginally heavier.
These models included 247 mm (9.7 in) vented front brake discs, with the VTR and VTS also having rear brake discs (solid 247 mm (9.7 in) discs). Also, a different style of control arms and struts was used for the suspension. The VTS had a 22 mm (0.9 in) master brake cylinder, and the VTR and Westcoast/Furio had a 19 mm (0.7 in).
Thank you for having me mate, you are a Legend. Rod approves of the John driving.
Top fella you are keep it up, big up the baguette bashers. John sends his love 🤝👍🇫🇷
Sick car dude, reminds me of my old Saxo but I've got 14 years on you!
Crazy car top work Man I remember bashing my old VTR
Awesome car mate 👍
Ah what if you havent got facebook??
Need a insta group ✌️
The saxo was like the original finance car for young people. They gave free insurance for 17 year olds and it became the most crashed car ever.
like corsa Limited Editions lol
I bought one direct outta Citroen finance who ran them through Mannheim auctions Haydock in the early 0’ies , turned out the imbercile who bought it new crashed it and didn’t like the bright amber colour west coast so painted it t(e silver over grey which they came as also so I ended up with a 2.5 year old colour changed car that had been crashed yet was hpi clear .
Came with only a v5 so I contacted the Citroen dealer on the plates who had a full history for it so I bought a book pack and they stamped it so now I had a FCMDSH so I ebayed it and sold it to a nurse who needed a car .
Them were the days when people didn’t hpi cars otherwise it showed as colour changed which in my mind I should of known about and would of looked harder at it m the idiot who owned it must of spent a fortune then lost it back to Citroen .
Anyway that’s my experience of the free insurance citroen Saxos
The money I made on it plus my stash I:bought a escort cosworth the next week lol
@@Curiosity_Carsyeah kinda, for the previous gen. Only diff is that the saxi had much more potential than the Corsa limited and better insurance prices for the drivers of that era. These kind of cars are a thing of the past for the average young driver. It's all about eco friendly 3 pots nowadays for most young drivers ( 1ltr fiesta ecoboost etc) I'd take the NA 1.6 dohc saxo anyday. Then we had Corsa gsi and the 1.8. The 106 quicksilver and GTi. Clio sports and the 172/182. Being a young driver in the early to late 2000s was a time to be alive 😢 not even starting on the Honda's or Nissans either. What a time
I turboed mine as the stigma that go's with these cars is like a red rag to a bull...I get people up my arse thinking I've got a fart can on the back...sooooo much fun!
Cars like these with capable drivers are where its at. Those fart box DSG Golf's and Audis can do one, give me a Saxo any day 🤟 These finance kids probably never heard of Heel-Toe 🤪
And also anyone can get into one of those and make it look like they know how to drive lol give me an older car anyday!
Finance okay in certain situations I'm a car dealer just don't be getting mad debt to gain respect, this is sometimes just as magical 👊❤️ Respect to all
@@skynet1.044 Yep! Too much technology doing all the work these days. No raw feeling or purity
Cart compare a saxo to a golf r or s3 mad man
@@timmymallet3809 You're right, much more love & respect for the Saxo
Certified wip, if you know you know. Big up John boy and Rodrigo, pukka performance confirmed. Let us know what you think of the video below and hope you enjoy it👍 Peace ML
I'm French and I would like to say that we can't blame you English people for being bad in the car, the driving is magnificent, giving you back the joy of driving this little French girl 🇬🇧🔥
Absolutely, j'adore le Saxo 🇫🇷🤝
Lot of people talking about the car but that kid is very smart. Wish him the best with his future projects, love to see a young un so passionate.
I still have mine from when I was 17. Still gave it now I'm 35😂. Although it has a k20a2 with 66.67 precision turbo on. It'd be cool to get it on the channel.
John agrees let's do it bro sounds awesome, ping me a message via IG or email via website 🤝👍
@@monkylondon on it boss👍
Looking forward to that one! Hope you get on there soon, love these saxo and 106 builds
Saxo Vtec with Precision Turbo😮
Certified Mental😅 Top Job🤣🤣
I can't wait to see this video
I had a Saxo VTR from new with the free insurance. That was a great car to thrash around in. Wish I kept it now. I've had faster more powerful cars since but being able to drive it flat out everywhere was the best times.
Great thing about small cars is they pick up quickly then level out. Recently sold a 03 yaris and it was one of the quickest cars off the mark I've driven and got faster towards the red line insane. Smoked many a new car in it. Shit test thing is a 5 speed box.
@@fasttrackblastback8286 It's the same with bikes, I've got a little 125 with 11bhp @8000rpm, but since it's only 110kg it'll pretty much do most cars off the mark, also just stupidly fun to rev them out and blast them around town and country lanes.
Great to see these still getting the love, they were the car to have when I was his age. He's sorted it well and don't all the right stuff to it, brilliant job. Puts all the nobs who've put anti-lag on a 1 litre Fiesta their mum bought to shame.
This was my first car, a VTR though. Eventually the tap pits went (that’s what was told to me) and it worked out cheaper to put a VTS lump in it than to replace the parts that went wrong. Of course I don’t what any sensible person would do…… stuck the VTS lump in it. The thing was a beast!! I remember my mechanic calling up telling me it was done and saying “be careful mate, this thing torque steers all over the place”. It was all good until someone crashed into the side of me and I sold the car for £250 because I was desperate for cash and didn’t want the insurance looking at my engine. Well you live and learn lol
I love builds where it's something small and light with very little power stock, then modded enough to get reasonable power but not so much that you can't get on it off the track. Also that ITB setup sounds so damn nice!
Yeah feels bro, such a fruity sound! Cheers for watching have a good one
For the time these were decent cars for a young driver. That's why there's not many left now 😂😂 these cars weren't even seen as "too wild for young drivers" so we're cheap to run. Nowadays you don't get cars like this available. It's all boring 1ltr 3 pots or expensive gtis or s3s etc. That's why the VW pd engine is still popular now. It's a good crossover of the good days + can still perform in this era.
Great video 👏🏻
I had a VTR 20 years ago, thrashed the nuts off it every day for the 5 years I owned it. Great to see they still have a following 👍🏻
I'm guessing the 4-pot brakes need a lot more fluid to move the pistons over standard. They're probably bigger and probably at least twice as many pistons. Actually being an east coast, it prob came with single pots on the front lol
I'd look into a master cylinder to match. Nice build
Yeah that will be it! Im getting around to getting everything step by step.
@@rodrigodias2361 306 gti-6 master ✌️
Top advice stars you are, car community ftw ⭐
I had one, they were single pots
Pug1off does the master cylinder upgrade brand new , around £60-70
Getting my Jenvey,d 106 GTi mapped @ West Tuning this Friday! Still love them at 31 years old 😆🤟
I saw a Saxo VTS in the wild the other day and it made me realise how rare they are these days. Made me smile seeing one ripping down a B-road.
This is my ideal build. No pops and bangs required. I remember these being everywhere growing up.
Yeah very raw driving feel as well, glad you enjoyed it have a good weekend
That’s insane im from Portugal madeira as well and was baffled as soon as he said it, reason why we like these cars its because its the best we have in madeira that we can afford, either that or a seat but we don’t like smokey seats 🙃
Cool car & NA too! Kudos to the lad! 👌🏻
A fine baguette! Thanks for watching
This reminds me of when I first started driving, first car was a saxo VTR. All the modifications on this are what we were all talking about back then on the forums. Saxperience forums, great forum back in the day.
My first car was a saxo. Loved every minute of driving it
Had 3 of them back in the day 2 vtr’s and a vts the vts with a stage one map used to make 165-170bhp quick little car back in the day used to love the 106’s gti as well and the Clio 1.8 16v’s
Your not ali bongo from the lothians back in the day are you? He liked his garlic and baguettes, wit the odd bit of rice :D
Love this, reminds me of my mk5 fiesta with a 1.7 puma lump on bodies...miss that old girl 👍🏻
That would have been a good laugh to drive nice conversion in a, Fes for sure
Love this! Little beast, built for twisties and none of the faff or fussiness of modern stuff.
Oh! The Citroen Saxo! This is amazing! Back the day it was a popular car, there were a lot of them about. They were like the **French** Ford Fiesta, quite "nippy" and good insurance deals.
As I recall, a mate of mine even had TWO of them... just not at the same time.
But he did get one of them up to a ton on the by-pass.
Wicked little car. Love it. Thanks for the video. Maybe a cheeky supercharger conversion next!?…
I work with newer cars all day, whilst the tech is fun, I prefer a older car as a toy, currently got a astra Gsi as a project.
Yeah for sure, wouldn't say no to the latest GT2 RS but olden is deffo golden
What a build, great fun looking car, sounds mega too.
Something about a car you can throw around and use all of its power.
Absolutely, cheers for watching nice one 👊
I love the fact his exhaust was heat wrapped by his mum! 😁👍
Legends mum's ftw 😂🤝
She can wrap presents at christmas so i thought i'd challenge her🤣.
@@rodrigodias2361 well Rodrigo, looks a proper job mate 😂
Nice to see a budget car and love a Saxo, wicked little cars!
Best fun i ever had ws in a £500 Saxo Vtr bought it as a Cat N write off but nothing major just a cracked bumper and paid £50 to replace it with one my friend got me from a scrap yard , the little Saxo would take on anything in the twisties on village lanes and 125mph on a straight track of course lol , just a shame so many got written off as us youngsters all drove them in the early 00s
Yeah definately becoming rarer now. Thanks for sharing your passion big up the baguettes
@@monkylondon Cheers 🍻 mate
to fix the brake pedal travel simply fit a bigger master cyinder/servo... for example on a civic with integra/prelude brake swap we'd run a "1 inch master cylinder" off the teg/lude. so see if the donor car the brakes have come with have a compatible cylinder and if pos bigger servo... if not find whatever fits and measure your original. easy fix :)
I'm 42 and always wanted a 106gti or a saxo vts back in the day. I'd have that car tomorrow and drive it with pride haha.
Sounds great, nice car, good build, impressive especially for a guy who’s 20
Another awesome vid from ML. Absolutely love these old saxo's and the owner seems like a top guy who wasn't fussed about some John action 😂 My mate had a 300 bhp astra gsi turbo when i owned my vtr and he couldn't get away from me down the country roads the old saxo was on his ass the whole way and he wasnt a slow driver! Little pocket rockets round the corners👍
Theses young lads Repping the car scene nice love the saxo, sounds like a super touring frm 2000's. Wicked set up fella. 😎😎✌✌👌👌👍👍
Nice to see you banging out one of pete cannon jungle tracks 👌👌
miss my old mk2 vtr some good memories in that car
Has entered the chat…
306 gti-6 master cylinder should help with the brake issue 👌
On it boss! Thank you.
@@rodrigodias2361 see if you can find a disc rear axle too.
Nice Sax, with these mods in your age I would be dead since a long time. Got equal mods and still loving it, now with an age of 42😂 even after 20 years owning it.
Wicked little motor for the guy to learn some driving skills and also broadening his knowledge on builds, defo something about the noise and wheel spinning feeling we get from older cars where everything is manual without computer technology interfering, smiles per miles and not great speed being reached. My pal got new golf R and yes it's rapid and beautiful machine but is kinda boring and safe. Other lad got a mad civic tuned with few other bits done also and given the option I always find myself jumping in the old civic rather than the golf,,
I had a 2003 vts, loved every minute of it. Even completely standard they are fun and reasonably nippy. Wish I had kept it now as most have been wrapped round lamp posts or thrown in a ditch!
Takes me back to my Black W reg Saxo vtr! Surprised a lot of cars with that thing, only had induction and exhaust too! Just redlining the hell out of it everywhere! Lol always wanted ITB’s on it, nice one Rodrigo 👌🏻
New that skid was coming 😂
Johnathan is a nightmare 😂
Cracking cars tbe vts back in the day ,always fancied the supercharger upgrade but ended up with a classic scooby
This is why I watch donky London ! Because he loves baguettes! And not the bread 🥖 😅 I have a 106 and it’s class! I love it ! Keep up the French car content monkyyyy! It’s awesome!🤜🏼🤛🏼
Will do sir big respect, got an epic Mini video dropping tomorrow I rekon you'll like. 430hp with flat shifting, monster!
@@monkylondon thanks for the reply donky! Who doesn’t love a naughty power to weight ratio! Looking forward to the vid ! Keep being you 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
At 19, I bought a brand new mango coloured saxo westcoast. 2 years free insurance! Would have saved me a fortune if I hadn't lost me licence within about 6 months! 😂 16 inch tsw venoms, on its arse, with koni's wound up solid it would still scrape like fuck! Maxi spoiler, dtm upswept rear splitter. Green induction kit, decat and 3 inch magnex back. Full vts interior. Boot full of music. The 90's were hilarious! I've had loads of cars but even with sod all power it would out-handle pretty much anything. Might have had something to do with my 19 year old John esque driving too tho! 🤔
Now that looks a lot of fun, there's a lot to be said for a small lightweight car.
Great motors I remember afew lads having the saxo and a few having the 106 gti both amazing cars, plus back then we all learnt how to drive properly not like today with all farty gearboxes and all this bs that stops you crashing lol
Rare little cars now the west coasts, love a phase 1 saxo👌🏻
This is a face lift ph1, grill is different ✌️
@@edh7492 Yup, got a p reg myself pre facelift ph1
Subbed !! No hype just two decent blokes giving it some pastie 👍
Respect to that bro welcome aboard
Cool fun build! payed 350 quid for my 1999 quiksilver 106 yrs bk, did the vts engine conversion & rear beam, need 2 get her on the channel 😎🏁🤙
Always down brother 🤝🙏
Saxos rock! Brakes feel like that probably cos master cylinder on passenger side. 406 v6 coupe the calipers come from feels the same. Have to stand on pedal but the brakes are there when u do! Get used to it. Some modern cars are far too over servo'd. Nice wee car tho. Brilliant fun and cracking sounding! Owned a few vt's and still have a vts ax. ❤️ em! Keep er lit!!😁
A real build, not just a few bolt ons and a remap. 👍
Nice motor. Maybe the auto adjusters on the rear drums need sorting, that would give you free play on pedal.
Get a disc beam off a vtr etc and plumb in a manual bias valve.
Gotta love a mk1 Saxo. My first car, a vts, with the same spec. Memories 😎
the reason why I'm building another k20 turbo jazz from a donated shell
Such B roads little slags I miss a high revving saxo! great car mate it sounds the bollocks 😎
Had black vtr years ago with only suspension/handling upgrades and it was a hoot to hoon about in. There silly money now though otherwise I'd have another.
Fastest PSAs come from Portugal, I'm from the northwest part of Spain and every time someone encounters one of these on the track we always say it has more "traps" under the hood than a 80's action movie.
Glad time is giving Renault Sports and sporty PSAs their flowers, Hondas need an LSD to compare to this magnificent handling... and still...
This is great. A small light car most lads can afforr to buy and own. Having fun with his mates.
Yeah great club they run, baguette bashers ftw link in video description if you wanna have a gander
Very typical choice for a Portuguese young man :) Saxo's and 106's were amongst the most popular "fast" cars for young Portuguese drivers 15-20 years ago, EG civics and CRX's were very popular as well. The trend has shifted for turbo diesel VAG cars, due to higher MPG and cheaper to make horsepower!
This video takes me back 10 years, I really want to get another saxo/106. It'd be my 7th 😂😂😂
Saxo serial buyer confirmed
sick video John! takes me back to my amazon green mk1 very very similar spec to this.. an absolute weapon back on '07. the tunes, the sounds, the smiles man.
Rare colour that now I rekon wonder how many are left
@@monkylondon its a beautiful colour, can't be many at all! miss waking up once a week to the door being bent where someone had tried to break into it! sold it for under a grand.. gutted.
I'm also from Madeira and i have also a Saxo Cup (the 1.6 16v)
Love the way this saxo has been done! Wholesome!
Yeah awesome motor proper drivers car for sure
Take me back, had a 1998 106 GTi around 2000 with a new engine from Peugeot as last one cracked due to not having enough coolant in during winter with 1st owner, ended up going the the ecosse peugeot supercharger route, was a bit too much to handle at 250+ with the standard 14" alloy etc lol, was a great wee car though, always preferred the 106 GTi over the Saxo VTR as it had a tiny bit more luxury leather/sound deadening wise, even though basically the same car lol.
im lucky enough to have a turbo ep3 at 21 but this saxo looks like good fun. Great little car for my age group
Had a standard '03 1.1 Saxo as my first car. Good times
i’ve got a gold vts with cat cams 743 with 1ltr box with 4inch poweflow straight threw pipe and super sprint 4-1 mani 👌
Sick car. ITBs sound mint
Any more news on the 306? shocked that no one really shows them the love on YT tbh......so was definitely keeping an eye on your channel.....
would love to see a full blown project on one of them
Yeah more vids soon just been flat out on jzx. Respect bro
@@monkylondon no worries man!!, Love the realness of your content
Só podia ser tugão 😂😂 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹 abraço
Pensei o mesmo ahaha
This is a good unit, great video Monkey and I think John showed the youg buck owner how much more that little French fry has in it 😀 😉 throttle down from Chicago boys.
Love old school cars and I love my little shit box starlet u really can't beat them
Have to agree, something magical about keeping an old car going too
Sounds incredible. Makes me miss my saxo vtr
That clio is looking awesome, can't wait to get my 182 back on the road 😀
106 ski was the best looking trim lvl in my opinion. mine was a nice dark teal colour
You mean an actual certi driver that doesn't lean on electronics and speak like a roadman? 🙊🙊
There is a person in the Netherlands with a peugot 106 with a k20 swap absolute madness
One of the cheapest cars for a young guy to learn how to take a correct turn.. the saxo and the peugeot 106.. you can have lots of fun with a stock 1.6 125hp car like that all day, any day.. they still use these here in Greece.
Top lad, well sorted motor, wicked Monky content 👍👍
Cheers Pete glad you enjoyed car and the video!
Sick video! Makes me wish i knew how to work on cars as well as being brave enough to haha ... instead of paying a fortune in labour for fitting bits! Got a 240bhp fiesta ST which is good fun but the sound of that saxo is nutty
That's what great about older cars like this much simpler. Grab a Halfords Advance tool kit and a cheap motor and send it. 240hp still sick in a Fiesta nice one
Everyone has to start somewhere dude! TH-cam is a big help especially with something like an st, will be a video for everything on one of those 👍
I’ve had 2 attempted thefts of my st in last 2 weeks by the same people, think I might have to stockpile driver side windows
What's sad you don't see many about anymore.
Yeah a lot were rolled by John's, great to see a few still about. Thanks for coming along and commenting appreciate it
My pleasure. I enjoy the videos.
man is zoomin. cool Citroen
I can't wait to get my corsa b quattro finished and get it on the channel
I love the old cars but in this day and age I'd only drive one of these fast with a cage in 🤣 don't fancy having an 90s style death in 2023
Those fender flares are stock? The car looks and sounds so dope! Love the stance as well.
Yeah the West Coast / VTS / VTR had them stock, looks really cool for sure thanks for commenting
Called wings
That's a wicked little car 👌🏼
Nice love a nice little hot hatch :)
Still to this day a saxo VTS is my favourite car 👌🏻
I had a Saxo VTR, now I have a Mk7.5 GTI 😎
I love my saxo VTR. I sold a cayman S and kept the saxo, way more fun
Looooove this kind of little car ❤️ . Nice owner as well.
I remember my vtr brake pedal was terrible aswell, the rest of it was cool as tho... But not as cool as his of course 👍
Bigger master cylinder might sort the brake feel
Better pads too. I had one of these back in the day and the ds2000? pads were the way to go. Or carbon loraine. Green stuff were pony! Cool motor you still can’t beat ITB’s and a lightweight chassis. Cool.
Quality vid when my car is done it would be cool to have it featured on here!
ive seen him literally yesterday lol i think it was somewhere along the way to seven sisters cliffs
That wouldnt have been me mate, Few hours away from me that. Good to see someone else enjoying theirs.
@@rodrigodias2361 basically the same looking saxo then haha
This car is becoming a legend
Rodspec ftw and big up baguette bashers 😮💨
Oi oi savaloy
loved this wee thing!!
he needs a larger master cylinder when going for the 409 brembos
Beytek in da house 😍😍😍
@@monkylondon ohhh herro, Man ya just gotta love these old hatches, where it all began for so many of us.