🐒 THE ULTIMATE BUDGET FAST CAR FOR YOUNG DRIVERS! CITROEN SAXO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- Lift off oversteer under braking? Hold our beers! Jump on board as we show you around are cheeky new budget purchase, a super cool Citroen Saxo! The ultimate in cheap fun motoring, next up, track day action! Peace, ML
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THE BEST BUDGET FIRST CAR THAT ABSOLUTELY RIPS! CITROEN SAXO 🐒
The Citroën Saxo was a supermini produced by the French manufacturer Citroën from 1996 to 2004. It was sold in Japan as the Citroën Chanson, because Honda had registered the "Saxo" name.[1] As a badge engineered variant of the Peugeot 106 (which itself was a development of the Citroën AX), the major difference being interiors and body panels. Production ended in 2004, when it was replaced with the Citroën C2 and Citroën C3.
All engines were from the PSA TU engine series that powered the Peugeot 205 from 1988 and the Citroën AX, and had their roots before that with the OHC PSA X engine various other PSA cars used, such as the Citroën Visa, Peugeot 104 and early Peugeot 205. The range included five petrol engines and one diesel engine, all naturally aspirated.
Although the quoted power outputs are low in comparison to modern small hatchbacks, or even to other hatchbacks of the time, the kerb weight was generally very low, with even the range-topping VTS having a kerb weight of just 935 kg (2,061 lb), with other smaller engine models (except the diesel) being around 100 kg lighter than this
There were three sport models of the Saxo:
The Westcoast, later replaced by the Furio which featured a 1.4I 8V 55 kW (75PS/75BHP) engine with a top speed of 175 km/h (109 mph), and a 0-62.5 mph (0-100 km/h) time of 11.2 seconds.
The VTR MK1 (1997-1999) featured a 1.6I 8V 66 kW (90PS/89BHP) engine with a top speed of 187 km/h (116 mph) and a 0-62.5 mph (0-100 km/h) time of 10.0 seconds. The VTR MK2 (1999-2003) featured a 1.6I 8V 72 kW (98PS/97BHP) engine with a top speed of 193 km/h (120 mph) and a 0-62.5 mph (0-100 km/h) time of 9.4 seconds.
The VTS 16V featured a 1.6I 88 kW (120PS/118BHP) engine with a top speed of 205 km/h (127 mph), and a 0 to 60 mph time of 7.8 seconds. The VTS MK1 (1997-1999) and MK2 (1999-2003) shared similar performance, although the MK2 was slightly slower due to it being marginally heavier.
These models included 247 mm (9.7 in) vented front brake discs, with the VTR and VTS also having rear brake discs (solid 247 mm (9.7 in) discs). Also, a different style of control arms and struts was used for the suspension. The VTS had a 22 mm (0.9 in) master brake cylinder, and the VTR and Westcoast/Furio had a 19 mm (0.7 in).
The VTS had a 19 mm (0.7 in) front anti roll bar and 22 mm (0.9 in) rear anti roll bar, while the VTR and Westcoast/Furio had a 19 mm (0.7 in) front and 21 mm (0.8 in) or sometimes 19 mm (0.7 in) rear antiroll bar. In addition, all the sports models featured a unique bodykit to the other models, commonly known as the "VT" bodykit.
1998 Citroën Saxo VTS
Citroën carried on using the 1.4i engine on the facelift Saxo Automatic in 1999. Due to the C3 having a 1.4i automatic gearbox, the Saxo Automatic came to an end in March 2002, whilst the manual models were still sold right up to the end of 2003.
Although MK2 Saxos were generally better equipped than their older counterparts, the interiors were still dated in comparison to other small hatchbacks of the time, such as the Vauxhall Corsa, with many of the center console controls originating from the older model of the Citroën AX.
The 1.6L VTR and VTS Saxos were the best equipped, with both gaining rear disc brakes as opposed to drum brakes, and ABS as standard for the VTS and an optional extra on all other 1.6-liter models.
By 2003, some buyers were more attracted to the spacious, and practical five-door C3. However, the 1.6 VTR and VTS models remained popular. The Saxo finally finished production in September 2003, when the three-door C2 was launched. Its twin, the Peugeot 106, also ceased production at this time. By the end of the Saxo's production life, its design was seven years old.
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First look at the new party van 2, let us know what you think! I'll make sure to do a full video on her! Fun episode full of bants and smiles hope you like it yo! Little Saxo is ready for her track day action, and boy what a day it was! Make sure you tune in for the next episode, maximum drifting confirmed! Don't forget to subscribe, like, comment and share to keep banging free content coming! Happy skidmas lovelies, ML :)
Appears camper vanning is infectious
@@sim6699 staycations are very popular all of a sudden 👀😂
If it’s still got it’s standard bias valve on the rear beam make sure it has been reset otherwise when you lower them they think there is weight in the back and send more braking force to the rear causing them to lock before the fronts and make it like pulling the handbrake if you slam on the anchors. Ask me how I know, or ask the large bolder at the bottom of my road 🥲
Best bet is to replumb them through a manual bias valve.
I see you reached all these conclusions 🙂
Yeah top work bro exactly that! Was good as gold on the track day, I think you are right though an adjustable bias valve would be a worth investment! Appreciate you comments Ed much love man
@@monkylondon cheers big monk, I believe Steve offered you the turbo nutter but the price was wild. The lads said you were a fan of the lift off oversteer on the day 😎👌
He was who made my turbo manifold and a bloody nice piece it is too!
@@edh7492 which one was that bud? My memory is shite 😂
@@monkylondon the 106 maxi turbo with all the carbonzilla parts.
Sorry I’ve been all over the comments like a tramp on chips 😎
For the algorithm and that ✌️
good call man mine used to do the same used to hit an island quick and stamp the brake pedal to get the back end out hahahahaha
*Yes lad!* My cousin had an old Saxo VTR. Fond memories of him going around a corner so quick that my seatbelt shot off and my mother was screaming at him to slow down 🤣 fond memories indeed. I do love an old fwd nugget. Power to weight is everything--
🤞 For the Corolla draw
Made me laugh 😂 Our poor mothers, and best of luck bro 100 tickets left. I remember taking my old dear out in my first car, was literally doing 20 in a 30 and she was panicking 😂
Once I pulled out of a junction in the rain and my car span up the wheels and my mum had a go at me for it. I was just as surprised as she was because I didn’t know my 88hp Astra could even spin the wheels usually it just wheezes 😂😂
I had a vtr when I was 19, well, I actually still have it but it’s turned into one of those long term projects that I’ll probably never finish because it needs to much welding 😂
My best mate had a Saxo VTR back in the day, heaps and heaps of fun! They do not crash well though… my mate crashed his at 40mph and the car looked like it had been thrown off a cliff.
Yeah they are an absolute blast, track day was awesome! And copy that, we'll try and avoid crashing 😂 Much love Dane thanks for watching!
@@monkylondon yeh mate have fun but stay safe 👍🏻😂. I’ve got serious nostalgia watching this vid which has now got me on eBay look for a VTS
Love the mk1 saxo. I always had nova,s but moved on to corsa b. Got two one 1.4 16v and a 1.6 16v. But 100% would love a saxo .......
Flying biscuit tin 😋
Had a red vtr, had to leave small shoes for the tiny pedals! Bolted a big spoiler on (slightly different red 😂) and drove it flat out everywhere. Loved that car, popped 2 gear boxes and got rid. Looks sick in silver, love the vids 👌
Thanks JW! Fine taste you have sir, and feels re the pedals. I'm size 9 and they still tiny 😂❤️
My 1st car was a white Saxo 1.1, my 2nd a Silver VTR, and my 3rd a red VTR, I absolutely loved these things, it's made me want to go and buy another as a weekend toy! 😀
Big Saxo fan then Chris nice one! I'll be doing a giveaway on this so maybe you can win it, be great to see you in another regardless!
The way I got round the rear end locking up on my old saxo was m tec discs and mintex pads after that it used to always brake in a straight line
That flocked dash looks like it's picked up every bit of dust, fluff & hair going...lolol sick little car the Saxo. I preferred the Pug 306's back then :)
Yeah deffo needs a good hoover lol. Much love homie, and yeah think that is next on the cards!
I had a 106 quicksilver with a 1.6 vtr engine from a saxo in it vts rear axle bilstien b8 shocks lowered 50mm with a vts gearbox and a piper high lift cam 2 bucket seats and a half bolt in roll cage was an absolute blast to drive and was pretty quick for an old 1.6
Sounded like an awesome car with some really good conversion bits, thanks for sharing Jack have a good one fella
My Ex had one of these & it was exact same on back end, drop tge back end abit, there awfull if back is abit higher than the front, makes it loose, Lower back abit & youll notice a difference 😉
Look at all the saxo vtrs in the hot hatch championship, they are all mad raked so I’m not sure I agree with that. You talk from experience so I’m not going to tell you you’re wrong however ✌️
@@edh7492 prob to help with lift off over steer, but in general they are better if front & rear are level as back end isnt as light under braking & cornering
He's right and wrong but more inclined to agree with him . The best gains on these cars can be made by adjusting that back axle and the geometry that comes with it . Free too if not very cheap to tune /alter
Yo Gaz great to see you on here bro! Hows the Pulsar? :)
@@monkylondon good mate, still going 🤣 had a sticky wastegate so boost was lazy but sorted now lol, hows my S15?... Oh wait you sold it 😭🤣
The Bloke who won your BMW was on Traffic Cops a few weeks back. He got pulled over in his fiesta and told the Cop he won the Car, Sold it, put a deposit on a House and bought the car he was pulled over in. I don't think the Cop knew what Monkey London was.😂🇬🇧🇮🇱🇬🇧👍
Yeah I sore that what a legend, great marketing hey 😂 Nice one Adam hope you had a good Xmas sir
Had a VTR and a VTS, both great fun! 60mph in second is a rare thing nowadays.. 😃
Yeah awesome ratios!
@@monkylondon I want another now! I know where there’s a really good one and the owner doesn’t know it! Standard 03 plate (them pepper pot rims) beautiful condition.
@@IMTHEBIGGESTCUNT so basically your going to offer him peanuts and fuck him over?
Your right about the after market bias valve! Mine got the 306 gti6 calipers, & rear gti disk beam! Same wheels 2!
Yeah not sure why I said 206 GTI-6 😂 Space cadet moment lol, Quicksilver was cool always wanted one at college! Fine taste man x
Great drive around the sprawling Monky London estate and the Saxo invites you to take the bends in a sporty manner, rather nice! Speaking of which, same goes for The Party Van 2!
One day you'll roll up in the party van on Ebisu Monky and drive the socks of whatever drift misssile happens to be on the trailer I am sure. Thank you both, all around good energy 👊
Worn rear beam mounts can make it tail happy also. So that's worth a check. Baker Bm do uprated ones which make the rear very stable.
Those brake proportion valves used to seize up almost from new can remember freeing them up on 2 and 3 year old cars.
It's the rear compensator on back axle. It would have sized up. Causing ur to lock on heavy breaking. Had same issue on my saxos. Replace it with a bias valve
There's a bias valve in the rear end when its fully loaded brakes get pushed to the rear ...when lowered it fools the bias system in thinking you've got 2 15 stone people in the boot and couple with the no rear seats it's light .
Put stock rear pads. FWD have the rear really light. With bigger brakes in the front the rear is really light on braking. With stock pads it will lock way less.
Two legends 💪 one savage video as always 👌
The Saxo and me yeah? Oh Jamie 😂 Much love brother Cathal glad you loved it sir, have a good one man!
If anyone watching this is thinking about buying a budget hot hatch but wants something that is better and more rare than a Saxo VTS
Proton Satria GTI
1.8 16v Mitsubishi engine, handling by Lotus. Wide fenders from factory. Look how cheap they are. They don't fall apart like the old French hatches do either.
Yeah they are really cool John always liked those, how hard are they to find now?
@@monkylondon They don't often come up for sale as they obviously were never that common. But when they do it always surprises me how cheap they are. Turbo convert one and you'd have a baby Evo hatch. They hold up and last longer than the French stuff from the same period as well. People just don't know about them and they have an undesirable badge.
Amazing video as always, and what a car!
Nice one Will, working on the track video today sir :)
Miss my little vts was heaps of fun on track days. Manifold and cams and it felt like a flying machine 🤣 mine also had gti6 brakes and was certainly lively under braking 🙃
Man after my own heart ❤️
@@monkylondon certainly good fun cars. Added some a048 semi slicks and a quaife diff and it out cornered most things. Plus I also found once I had run out of talent and twatted into some tyres at brands it was worth more in parts then alive so win win haha.
Enjoy and I look forward to the trackday video
@@monkylondon certainly good fun cars. Added some a048 semi slicks and a quaife diff and it out cornered most things. Plus I also found once I had run out of talent and twatted into some tyres at brands it was worth more in parts then alive so win win haha.
Enjoy and I look forward to the trackday video
Big fan of the party van2, fitting my sprinter out at the moment, keep them videos coming my guy Lower power hero car!
Yeah has made a big difference can't wait to use it more in 22. What you doing on yours nice to have some Sprinter fwends! Track day action next sir :)
Been looking forward to this!
Thanks Sam!
Got a 1.1 desire first car, mint condition, great fun and looking forward to finding a nice vtr/vts
Where's Vanessa gone?
Will be the standard brake bias valve that is on the back near side
Yeah we free'd it up was grand on the track day, think an adjustable valve would be a worth purchase for sure! Have a good day sir
@@monkylondon yeah I have one in my saxo vts I would go for a lever brake bias valve but it is fun getting the back end out
I had a VTR for my 1st car. Loved that car
What a sick first car!
Mini Cooper s (r53) cheaper and faster then a vts. Buttt there seriously cool cars now and the 106 gti
I need a good suspension for my vts, daily drive and for a little track. What u suggest? 👀
What's better? :a BC coilovers (adjustible) or eibach pro kit 12? Anything else? Thanks..
BC if coilover route or Bilsteins if fixed height bud I rekon
@@monkylondon
Thank u.. Hy there,.. from hungary.
Remove the bias valve and replace with a straight bit of pipe and that will sort it 👌🏽
I’ve got a 106 gti track car. I am still building it
My '98 vts showed a 172 cup a clean pair of heels, no bother
It's budget for a reason. Because it's unreliable French scrap.
Wash your mouth out 🤣🤣🤣❤️
@@monkylondon Nothing like the high powered, high reving JDM 1.6 cars back in the day... Pulsar VZR, MIRAGE Cyborg MIVEC, Levin 20 Valve Blacktops and Vtec SiR and VTi..
I need this car, has my initials k b on the plate! Lol
You can win it soon 😊 x
Had a vts, loved it , want another....
Saxo gang, let's build a family of Saxo's
The 300mph saxo
Haha nope full set for £200 if your lucky
James have you been smoking seaweed again? I blame him 😂❤️
@@monkylondon haha loving the channel though lad would love to see you out in Luis Skillas ibiza x
still got by track car saxo ive not drove it in 6 years
Come and do some track days bro, @opentracktrackdays is highly recommended 🙏
Not many cars that handle as well as these do
Agreed Will, on another level tbh! Thanks for watching and commenting really appreciate it
That vans dope
Thanks Haroon I'll do a full video on it soon once we've sorted the gremlins 🙂
@@monkylondon 💯👌
I like Cyclones on a 106
Yeah they look really suited deffo agree Ant
😮 your bog roll’s on the wrong way!!! 😤🤬
Wasn't me, death penalty inbound
@@monkylondon 😂👍
Shit lol, see my last comment Toby. 😂
A honda with a b series will chop it 😂
Yes but doesn't have onion power so minus 5 points 😂🤝
@@monkylondon but +100 for reliability and potential 👍
@@monkylondon why not try and get a k swap (maybe k24 Frank or turbo) honda jazz on, a surprisingly fun chassis is hidden under the granny styling 😂
@@Bilbobaggins82242 1.6 16v TU5J4 engine will keep up well 😉 and its incredible reliable same as b series
@@SeventYPT with a 190 bhp ek9 with lsd and a better chassis not a chance, I can tell you that from experience my ek9 and by b16a eg both had 0 issues vs these tin cans in straights or country back roads. The fact is you probably haven't ever been in a decent b series civic.
Even my 1.6 fat ep2 would keep ahead the vtr 😂.
Also go slap a turbo on and some basics and show me 600bhp, because a b16/18 will do that easy
Vtr gear box’s are terrible needs a vts or 1.1 gearbox and it will fly !
Ah they are different, kinda felt the VTS pulled to 60 in second when I drove by VTR just under is that why?
@@monkylondon yeah monky the vtr box has ridiculous gear ratios feels like they go on forever needs a 1.1 box or a vts and it transforms these little shitbox’s makes them way more fun to thrash around B roads
Cant comment shit on here without it being deleted 😒
I can see your comment 🙂
Can anyone else see Louie's comment?
@@monkylondon i commented twice before an both were removed lol, your channel must have restrictions on
Monky, i wanna get my car on your channel after ive done a few mods so you can John action it 🤣
Is strange says 20 comments but when you count only 12. I wrote a main comment as well and it's also vanished
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Driving on ðe wrong side of ðe road...
The right side 😂 Thanks for watching homes!
@@monkylondon You're welcome!
Your videos were getting good again hope youre not going to revert back to making videos of the ginger guy, incredibly boring to watch. Stick to track days and car reviews with the odd road trip