I'm a CD guy and I only purchase Japanese imports. Even standard jewel case editions are much nicer than American or European versions. The booklets are printed on better quality paper, they usually have bonus tracks not available on other editions, the plastic jewel cases themselves are thicker and better made. Japan really does music right.
I did get a Japanese copy of Atom Heart Mother, that was packaged that way and I love it. When I bought it at the time, I thought that's how it should be done! I love that Japan still cares about physical media and the CD in particular! Thanks for the video.
Hi Phil. For me the way forward is a return to heavy-duty jewel cases like we used to get in the first few years of CDs, plus informative booklets. The quality of jewel cases and plastic tray inserts has deteriorated over the years. I'm not bothered about mini-posters, photos, obi strips etc.
I have to disagree with you on this one, Phil. If I go back to before the epidemic, I could buy just about any new album as a single CD for around £10.99. Since then, there has been an increase in retail price of (I think) close to 50% because now the expectation is to pay around £15.99 for a single CD, and that's without any improvements in packaging. If anything, I have found a particular online retailer to have become a lot more expensive for CDs such that I don't buy from them any more because I can get CDs cheaper from *US* retailers like "All Your Music" on our favourite auction site, or directly from the record company themselves. If I have to wait a few more days for the CD to arrive whilst getting it cheaper then so be it. If the record companies want to give me the Japanese packaging with no further price increases then I might be more inclined to pay £15.99 for a CD but I don't feel I need that extra packaging anyway, given I've just gone through the process of "compacting" my collection by ditching single plastic CD cases and putting them in sleeves instead. Ultimately the additional packaging is just printed cardboard or paper anyway. If CDs are getting more popular, then more of them are being manufactured and therefore the cost per unit price should decrease - and be passed on to the customer, which I don't see happening currently. So someone's making more money than ever without me, the customer, benefiting - and I am not going to encourage them to increase the price of CDs again just for more paper and cardboard.
I still love the case but the weak points (centre spindle and hinge tab) are still terrible. Plus removing the booklet can be a real pain. I like it still because you have a spine to read when you stack them
I am a CD buyer for the artists I follow. I used to be steadfast on the Jewel case but as time has moved along the card fold out CD package I have softened on probably because I am grateful we are still getting CDs. I do like a deluxe edition glossy book CD set as they are truly lovely. I have stuck with CDs because I love a physical product of the artists I collect not only the music and extras of deluxe editions but the art/photography and written features. You don't get any of that special experience as a fan with just a download. I am pleased for the vinyl lovers that that made a nice comeback for collectors but CDs are my thing as they are ideal for storage and you often get the most content in deluxe CD packages.
Let me make a few more points here because this is a really interesting topic for me. Once a month and many years ago, my buddies and I used to go up to London to check out all the music stores. We'd start in Tower Records in Piccadilly Circus (because they were the cheapest in many cases) then walk up through Soho for a few indie and used record stores there, over to HMV at Oxford Circus and then walk down Oxford Street for the Virgin Megastore. If we had time, we'd pop to Forbidden Planet nearby too. It was a great way to spend a Saturday afternoon. Today, there's no Tower Records or Virgin Megastore (I don't know if HMV is still at Oxford Circus and, if so, is anywhere near as big as it used to be) and whilst I've not checked out what record stores are in Soho these days, the impression I get from used record stores near me (I can't think of any indie record stores) is that they probably make their money mainly from their online business and sell most of their best product there - meaning that what's left to browse in the shop are the "leftovers" that aren't that interesting. These days, I tend to focus on the charity shops who, again, have people picking out "the good stuff" and selling it online leaving the "rubbish" in the shop - but occasionally I'll pick up something for a quid or two that's "worth a spin" that I would not have paid full price for. The Japanese are very lucky if they still have access to Tower Records, because all we have in the High Street these days are the occasional HMV shops that sell as many t-shirts and those deformed plastic dollies of superheroes as they do CDs or vinyl - I don't bother with them at all these days because I never find anything in there that is cheaper than I can get online. I guess that makes me part of the problem in the "decline of the Great British High Street". This format probably looks great on shelves in record stores and I am sure is a motivator for a lot of impulse buying from customers - but putting this format for sale online where it is bound to be more expensive to buy than a normal CD and will probably cost even more to post due to the size doesn't work for me at all. I said in my other comment that the cost of a newly released CD has increased by about 50% since the epidemic, yet we get cheaper "digipack" packaging for that price increase - plus the increased production of CDs should make them cheaper anyway. Me personally, I "play" my CDs once to rip them in FLAC lossless format to my home server, then stick them on a shelf as an archive and backup of themselves. From that point on I just play my music from the server, and I'll convert to compressed MP3 to put my music onto my phone or portable device. I'm not interested in Spotify or downloadable music, I like having the physical media and any booklets or extras that are included - and I believe the artists probably get a slightly better income from CD sales than from downloads. If the record companies want to make me feel less "ripped off" as their customer, the first thing they can do is give me PDF copies of the booklets to download from, say, a link on the CD packaging, so I can then feel I am being a bit "greener" in my consumerism and just pull up sleeve notes on a phone or tablet when I fancy a read while enjoying an album. That doesn't mean I want the normal CD booklet replaced, but I'd like the option of both. I also think they should reduce the price of box sets too - I think about £5 on average per CD in the set is a fair price, bearing in mind the number of 5 CD "Original Artist Series" that came out, again before the epidemic, at about £10. Sure, they had "cheap and cheerful" packaging but add on £15 to cover the cost of a box and a few freebies and 5 CDs for £25 in a reasonably nice box set seems fair - after all, these are just reissues or remasters of previously recorded albums anyway, there's no recording costs or musician studio time to take into account. Sorry for the long "rant" but let me finish with this closing thought - I'm a huge UFO fan and I buy everything that gets released by them, including re-issues and remasters. Last week, I ordered the remasters of "The Monkey Puzzle", "You Are Here" and "The Visitor" albums on "that auction site" from "All Your Music" and *SHIPPED FROM THE USA* for £36.33. The same three CDs from "that big online seller" would today cost £52.32 at their prices - so very nearly £16 difference, shipped from a UK warehouse (not the USA) and it would cost me even more for delivery if the total purchase price was less than £35 because I don't subscribe to their "subscription service" any more (because they started throwing adverts into their streaming movies and demanding more money to remove them so I "did a Victor Meldrew" on them and told them to "B***er off!"). So please don't ask me to be sympathetic to record companies or vendors - they're allowed to blame these increases on the epidemic, Br*xit or war in Ukraine when, as far as I am concerned, it's just capitalist greed. (And that's for everything you buy these days, not just CDs.)
@terrydaktyllus1320 well said sir. I agree with alot of your comments. I have collected cds for decades and like yourself I'm dismayed with the decline in physical media stores. I live near Belfast and there is only one HMV and a few 2nd hand CD stores/charity shops. I do get alot of physical music from amazon and Ebay but. I don't do streaming as it rips off artists and I don't like being manipulated by their suggestions of what to listen to. I do download some albums and individual songs as sometimes they are difficult to find or alot more expensive in physical form. I agree with you about box sets - some are far too expensive. Neil Young's archives vol 3 for example is going to be £250 - 270 for 17 CDs which is a rip off imo.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 An uptick for FLAC! I actually buy FLAC from Qobuz these days and store on cloud and a local NAS box. I can’t be doing with hoarding any more physical stuff at my age and am actively trying to get rid of CDs and other dust collectors. Ripping my music to FLAC and clearing the shelves is the way forward for me - bar a handful of CDs which have a deeply personal significance. They can stay. As for the ancient vinyl stacked in the cupboard….potential ‘grave goods’ at best, superseded by CDs nearly 40 years ago.
I couldn't agree more with both of your comments, I either wait for the price to come down to £12 or less for new cd's or buy second hand from Music Magpie, I've completed many a collection over the past few years averaging between £4 - £7 per album.
Hi, loved your comments, I'd also like to say upfront that I am not a negative person at all, quite the opposite - however some things need to be said. I totally agree with your comments, I think we are being ripped off by the record companies and the prices on some, not all - of their products are unreasonable. Dont they realise that if they dropped their prices on say CD's, that they might actually sell more and maybe even make more profit - heaven forbid they would do that lol. I can just imagine what's going on in the dark recesses of some of these record companies vaults. They must be employing hundreds of people to scour through their vaults looking for anything and everything from the 60's and 70's to remix, remaster, repackage - or do absolutely nothing to lol, and sell of to us music lovers at greatly inflated prices. Where does all this end - having said that I do purchase the odd reissue I love them lolol. So - I buy a lot of my CD's / LP's from charity shops and do very very well, I'd love to support the new product more, but I - like many just cant afford it. That's my rant for the day. Happy picking Cya Doug
I love buying Japanese CDs... Just purchased Pink Floyd's Atom Heart Mother Japanese edition with amazing goodies inside.... Replica concert tickets stubs etc.... Japanese have premium packaging with their CDs... Love buying them ❤ .
Thank for a great video. I agree with your premise and really like that physical format but I prefer the jewel case for storage, protection and portability. Atom Heart Mother was the first CD that I saw in that format. I think that format would it nice for a special edition release but for a standard new release I would prefer the jewel case. Digipaks are sometimes nice and sometimes disappointing. The most important thing is that the CD format doesn’t get abandoned because of the profit generated from the super inflated prices that the record companies are suddenly charging for vinyl. Like you I collect both formats but frankly I reach for my CD versions much more frequently than my vinyl because of convenience. This larger format is really impressive but less convenient for use and storage. Thank you for being passionate about this topic and caring the physical format banner!
Agreed, and maybe the paper package is more to print but it certainly feels cheaper. Never thought I'd miss the jewel case but I was ecstatic when the new Deep Purple CD came in one.
Totally agree with this, Phil. Rival Sons are a great example - a band that who I love by the way - said they actively don't put any effort into their CDs and concentrate only on their vinyl releases, which I think is a huge shame. But I think more bands would invest in their CD releases if they could produce CDs like the Japanese.
That's a nice little package. I wouldn't mind if they'd also sell CD's in a longbox (6"x12") size digipack format. It would be thin, practical, but taller than a DVD box that would allow for the inclusion of a relatively thick standard size pocket book containing more pages than the old jewel case booklets.
Being an old fart I only had vinyl 50 years ago. The whole 12" packaging was brilliant, you could read everything and photos and artits work was magnificent. The album was all one and nothing could replace it. Along come cds with their interchangeable jewel cases, small writing and photos, very uninspiring, the digi pack help as like the vinyl albums there was no interchangeability. About 30 years ago I used to say to friends why couldn't companies use album size packaging and put the cd in a slot, thus preserving, especially with cd reissues of classic albums their integrity. At least 30 years after I used to moan about cds somebody in Japan has thought about this and I love this 7" style packaging. I've more or less giving up buying cds and buy mostly vinyl normally originals or great reissues from discogs.
Hi Phil. I would pay more willingly if that would be the new format. I love the packaging and all the bonus ephemera. Part of the wonderful experience of collecting.... although I know that the price point would aimed solely at collectors. The cd deserves such love... as the vinyl. Tha KS for the video.
To improve the product is the future of the product! My knowledge of the digital music format came with the (promice) expectation of sonic superiority. Henceforth I fully expect that (SACD) Super Audio Compact Disc to supersede the (CD). The record labels and their artists whom strived to deliver their product in this format I commend. Rolling Stones for example. Bravo. I emplore all consumer's to consider this format.
I would definitly buy this type of CD and not so keen on the cardboard cut out as you said over priced. but then I'm old at 64 and have not bought a CD in years!!! great video thanks for sharing..
The only CD packaging configuration like that which I've ever come across is Emerson, Lake & Palmer's "Tarkus". I purchased it on Amazon and honestly didn't realize the packaging was going to be like that. It's okay... I don't mind it. But I'd really prefer just a standard jewel case. Why? Because my steel shelving for 2,000 CD's is specific for standard size cases only. 💿
I like having hi-res downloads and hi-res album art to play on the PC and big tv. I'm also a fan of the super clean Blu ray multichannel versions of albums with the slides and promo videos. I liked the LP's and gatefold albums many years ago, but large art works on the screen are so much better these days!
I agree. The number of times the card cases of my CDs have creased and buckled (often in transit) or even ripped getting the CDs out of the thinner ones -- Kate Bush's Aerial for instance is a tricky one to slide out the discs without damage. With a jewel case you can just replace it if there's a scratch or break.
@@PaIaeoCIive1684 So do I. Those 7" packaging wouldn't fit in my cd rack though !!! 💿 Only Kate Bush could sing "washing machine"🌀 in the Aerial album lyrics & make it sound credible 🙃
Mee too. I have skipped very CD purchases because the albums didnt come in jewel case even if I wanted the music. I pirated the music on high res and purchase the itunes versions
Oh man. I’m so glad you brought this up. Yes Phil! I totally agree. I have just a couple of those lavish, Japanese packaging CDs. I have TOTO 4 and Santana Abraxus they are hybrid SACDs. I just love them. Expensive? You bet.
I always liked either the deluxe edition packaging with the clear slip case or the packaging with the hard box cover/slip case (like the 2 cd deluxe editions of U2’s early albums)
Great video. Format looks interesting, and wish that when CDs first came out they had followed a similar format with jewelcases; always thought that the size of a 7" combined with a hard case would've been perfect, sturdiness of a jewelcase and larger "canvas" to showcase the artwork. However, still think a jewelcase is the best format for CDs.
As someone who only buys CDs, my only complaint would be that it would require modifying the shelves I have. That said, I think this would be a wonderful approach for special editions, reissues, etc. Great job as always, Phil!
That is pretty creative. Bigger print for my old eyes is a plus but the trade off is storage solutions. Ikea is going to have to come out with new shelving size of the Gnedby. I like it.
Brilliant video. I would certainly like to see a move away from the jewel case. They aren’t robust enough. As a seller I replace any damage to cases but this looks much better.
I wish we could just get back to the point where CDs were when they were the format of choice for most folks, with unfancy packaging that's easy to store. Luxurious packaging really doesn't mean anything to me. Just give me the music on media that's not going to degrade if I take care of it. Obviously, this is just my personal take. But the way the CD market seems to be going right now just isn't really for me.
I'd go a step further and make the package the size and shape of a 12" album, especially if they are multi-disc sets. Have a sheet with the cd hubs and that sheet slips in and out of the gatefold sleeve. For years I thought that the cd just has a packaging issue (until the whole loudness wars issue popped up). But for my ears - a well made cd with it's original sound dynamics still in tact is every bit as good as a quality vinyl pressing and superior in it being less susceptible to damage through handling.
I would definitely buy these! When I was stationed in Japan in the late 70's early 80's I bought many vinyl albums there just because Japanese pressing always included extra stuff, and if it's like a Deep Purple album or band I'm really into, I still buy alot from Japan for the extra material they include!
Yeah, interesting topic, and what an array of opinions. It looks cool for someone just starting out a collection, but for those with 20yrs plus of uniform stored items, adding another format is a nightmare. I love my CD jewel box cases and my only problem now is where to buy replacements for when a used purchase is damaged. Not for me! I hate LPs, and dislike the cheap cardboard CD trend. Keep on rockin!🎉
I would love it for the extras, but the fact that it wont fit into my standard CD bookshelves would be a big no-no. I actually have one similarly packed album: The Japanese edition of the 3CD Santana Live in Tokyo album.
Phil I don’t know if you remember but the newest Zakk Sabbath album also came in a CD format. It was in a full sized almost album size and it came with a huge book full of awesome pictures of Zakk Wylde and his band. I would love for something like that every time for CDs that would be incredible. Obviously that’s going to cost some bucks but definitely worth collecting.
I'm not a collector but I buy music, preferably on physical format, in order to listen to. I'm not a fan of posters and other things some albums come with. These take up space and I rarely ever look at them. These things drive, to me, a big issue: there are way too many different package sizes. And I'm not referring to the difference in sizes between vinyl and CD format but differences within a single format. There are boxsets of many different sizes and forms. There are single and double album sizes, jewel cases and cardboard cases, etc. The biggest issue this represents is that you need different storage systems to accommodate al those different formats. I wish the industry would settle on some standard formats. These Japanese CD release do look appealing due to the bigger artwork. But they would be a nightmare, for me, to store them since I don't have a storage system that can hold these. I currently have storage systems that accommodate vinyl albums and CD. I wouldn't like to add yet another one. By the way, I do hate the CD jewel cases. I have replaced most of mine by plastic sleeves. I prefer that because it resembles a vinyl release but smaller. And the added benefit is that it reduces the storage size by a third.
I still buy mostly CD’s even if i grew up buying vinyls. I think they sound better and you don’t get the pops. Still the LP cover can’t be beat. I’ve thought they should put CD’s in LP sleeves instead of the plastic jewel case.
Great video as usual! I am a big CD collector (near 6000) and still buy then on a weekly basis, mainly on Discogs, used-mint condition. I love the format from the beginning but can’t deny that package wise they evolved much in the late 90’s, with some reissues (unfortunately poorly remastered) bringing more information on more well designed booklets. I prefer the jewel box not only because it protects the CD better, but it make the side (in the shelf) easy to read. I dislike the less inspired vinyl copy packaging, especially those without booklet. Already used to the 5-12 euros per used CD, I don’t think that I am prepared for paying 20+ euros for just a fancy package, but that is just me, and it doesn’t help the CD vs vinyl war at all, I know :) Only in the case of a real and significant improvement in sound quality (remastering / remixing), then I will make the effort… occasionally, not to substitute my CD collection all over again.
The reason record companies PREFER cardboard packaging than a plastic jewel case is because it weighs less than cases. That's important considering the cost of distributing CD's on planes or trucks is based on both weight & volume. The heavier the load, more these vehicles burns fuel, which means buying more expensive gasoline. Trust me i know.
Single CD Digi-Cases are usually under 4 ounces when shipped in bubble mailers which save online retailers and second hand retailers about 25 to 40 cents a shipment if they go over 4 ounces. That may play a factor since I suspect a majority of cd sales are online.
I like the cd jewel case the best, I like digi pack case too, those grew on me, it took time. I really don't care for ecopac's at all. I sleave all my CD cases, it adds a deluxe feeling to them, and protects them. I use inner sleeves for CD's that have those ecopac's. I do like the packaging of what you showed, the outer sleeve looks like it's a stiff stock.
Hi Phil I love this format and have a number of Japanese editions including a number of Yes albums from the debut to Big Generator. Beck Bogert and Appice self titled and Live Double but my absolute favourite is Journey’s Escape which is packed with extras. Here’s the description from the Japanese site :Japanese original release. 35th anniversary deluxe edition of "Escape" release from Journey. Consists of 3 discs. Disc 1 (Blu-spec CD2) includes the original tracks with bonus one(s). Features DSD remastering, using the original analog master tapes. Both Disc 2 (Blu-spec CD2) and 3 (DVD) feature a concert held in Houston. This set includes the followings: four 7-inch-vinyl-sized cardboard sleeve cover artworks, a mini-reproduction of a pamphlet for the 1982 Escape tour in Japan, a mini-reproduction of a flyer for a 1982 concert at Nippon Budokan, and a mini-reproduction of a ticket for a 1982 concert at Nippon Budokan. I wish they would release more of the classic hard rock, metal , AOR and prog albums in this format as there doesn’t seem to be that many. Are you aware the Japanese did experiment with CDs in full size LP covers? This was around 20 years ago and among thr releases were 10cc’s Original Soundtrack, Elton John’s Goodbye Yellowbrick Road, Bon Jovi’s Slippery When Wet and Def Leppard’s Hysteria. These had a 12 inch card with the cd attached but had the benefit of a full-size album sleeve and they are amazing. Unfortunately they never seemed to take off and there were only a couple of dozen titles pressed as far as I know. I also love the Japanese replica mini lp sleeve CDs which were extremely popular for years although not many titles come out these days and there are still some titles I’d love to see on this format. All the Tubes albums, Legs Diamond, Saga, Dream Theater and Max Webster ones spring to mind. The attention to detail is incredible and when it comes to packaging, the Japanese are light years ahead of the rest of the world.
Phil I have a number of Japanese SACDs that are presented in this format, among them is Toto, Santana, Jeff Beck, Billy Joel. The extras are a real bonus and the entire package is a luxury product. I really wish more SACDs were released in future if there is to be a serious CD revival. it would provide another niche luxury product but also a superior audiophile product that could easily become a niche collectible (much like vinyl is). Also be good if labels were to produce 24 bit remasters- I have over 150 of these and the sound quality is also superior and in the audiophile zone. These are still available at reasonable prices- the 1999 Bowie 24 Bit remasters are worth the investment! 24 bit remasters appear to have been overlooked when folks discuss audiophile quality CDs Also 20/22 & 32 bit discs worth seeking out HDCD, UHQCD, XRCD, K2HD are also worth searching out.
For me it's about choices and the room you have to store your fave music .the music is the most important factor to me I have one room which stores my vinyl and cds and I don't want it to get out of control.
I agree with You; Almost all of my collection is Japanese Mini-LPs and I've been collecting these magnificent 7'' inch CDs since the early issues...I adore them! I was telling Brendon Snyder that This is The Future!
That's because the quality has been in freefall for some time. CDs jewel-cases manufactured in the 80s and 90s were much stronger. In the UK it's now quite difficult to buy quality jewel-cases - not helped by the biggest and best manufacturer being in Belgium - and because of Brexit most sellers here prefer to sell cheap junk. Naming no names!
I've had that issue as well. Jewel cases of the 1980s and early 1990s were using thicker plastic. I'll often go to thrift stores just looking for old jewel cases to re-purpose.
Yep, sign me up Phil. Just think of all the juicy extras you could cram into that oh so accomodating new box shape. Love CD's, a new refresh on the packaging front could be just what is needed to keep the format alive.
Hi Phil. Love your channel. I’m a multichannel enthusiast with my own “Aussie Surround Sound Enthusiasts” Facebook group with 74 members & growing. The Japanese have been releasing these (beautiful) 7” SACD Quadraphonic CD’s. I’ve got Santana & Abraxas my favourite (they sound spectacular in Quad from the original masters) as well as Billy Joel’s The Stranger & Toto IV in 5.1/Stereo/Hybrid SACD. There are many other artists available! I’m going to Japan next year specifically also going to the wonderful Music shops in Tokyo, particularly to pick up The Rolling Stones SHM-CD or SACD if possible of all the Stones albums after Ya Ya’s…ABKCO have already remastered all the earlier Stones albums in SACD Stereo. They sound magnificent. 👏👏🎸🎹🥁🎶👍😎
Hi Phil. I can see what the appeal would be of that Japanese style packaging, but if I'm honest I wish they would just return to the jewel case with a good booklet. I recognise though that at my age (56) I am not the future of CD, if it is to have one. But if CD is to survive, something needs to happen with the packaging. I have never liked the mini LP format, it simply feels too unsubstantial.
I would definitely buy these, but I would have to re buy all the Bowie albums again. I love CDs I have very little space so the CD is perfect for me. 💿⚡️
Never seen that kind of packaging before, genius! In Japan people still cherish physical formats in great volumes, but it would be worth trying to sell that kind of packaging in the West for sure.
The weak link in the design is the plastic CD holder. With continued use the plastic will be stressed and the spigot might break. I have had similar failures with CD Digipaks and because the plastic holder is glued to the carboard it cannot be replaced. The CD jewel case simply snaps together, and it is easily dismantled to allow a damaged component to be replaced. The booklet is a standard size and if necessary, the entire case can be replaced. The case for SACD and hybrid layer CDs are more of a problem due to availability.
Hi Phil, I would be very happy to pay extra for a format like that. Hopefully we will see them soon in the UK, but I fear, it will be a long time before we see that sort of innovation in the UK
I have the edition of 40 years of Toto - Toto IV in that 7" sleeve format and is simply fantastic. Includes posters, tour book, reproductions of the singles that appear over there and more. I hope they issue more and more titles. These types of editions make people invest more for something really special and not just a plastic or cardboard packaging.
Hey Phil! I totally agree with you. I love these CD packaging! The Japanese still cares alot about physical media. Do you know if there is a website where we can purchase CDs with these packaging? Or does it all have to be purchased in Japan?
I actually like the new digipaks more than the jewel cases, and that s what made me buy cds again in 2024 after 10 years. Now imagine all of them looking like that japanese version, that would be 10 times better.
Nooooooo........ I would need all new storage shelves. 😁 With that said, I really like how much care & thought the Japanese put into all their musical releases (vinyl, CD etc.) & yes I would jump on that bandwahon
This is exactly how I wanted my latest album to be printed for CD! But mis-communications with the pressing company they ended up the normal size, which though slightly disappointing, did end up being a fair bit cheaper and also easier to carry around to gigs and such... but definitely for the next one - that one looks beautiful! A great idea for indie-artists to stand out.
Would also make me keep buying. Hate those barebone packages. I remember some time ago there was a small run of similar packaging. Don't remember all releases, but T-Rex - Slider was one. Looked up size on a store and says 182 × 183 × 4 mm · 94 g
Phil you are wrong about there being rows and rows of this format- the format you are using for this video are for special editions and are limited to very big artists - Taylor Swift Ariana Grande Lady Gaga etc - the majority of the artists you are thinking about would never ever have the opportunity to have the 7" style format- I would say that for all the releases in a year it is less than 1%. That being so - you are 100% correct that the format is frankly beautiful- keep in mind too that they sell very well but are highly limited! So 1975 is a great example of what overseas companies can do but won't!
It's funny because I've just recently started collecting vinyl but been a CD collector for years. I was always so disappointed when a new album I wanted came in a cardboard sleeve. Finally how, as you say a vinyl record is just the same but it seems to have a different feeling. Anything Japanese is just better. I've bought a few deluxe edition CDs that came with booklets and stuff and it just feels so much more premium.
For anniversary editions,then I would consider this size/presentation with all the extras photos thrown in.Apart from reading the text as a man of a certain age,I have no issues with the miniature replica sleeve. I prefer this nowadays to the traditional fragile plastic dual casing.
Hi Phil, thanks aagin for this very informative video. I totally agree with you. Besides the looks is a Japanese pressing usually more quality regarding sound.
I find it difficult to remove and replace the cd in covers without getting finger prints on the cd and difficult to see the cd title if you stack them end on and want to read the spine
No thanks Phil. That just looked like lots of bits of unnecessary paper to me and larger space taking packaging. I have no issue with the little card sleeves. I just wish that for the price, companies would package them better for posting so that at least a percentage of them arrive undamaged.
I'm a CD guy and I only purchase Japanese imports. Even standard jewel case editions are much nicer than American or European versions. The booklets are printed on better quality paper, they usually have bonus tracks not available on other editions, the plastic jewel cases themselves are thicker and better made. Japan really does music right.
Where do u get them from
@@NormanDoll-rr6lh yeah....
More expensive too...
A Lot more
The mastering can sometimes be different to western editions too. Often slightly better
You're right, of course, the Japanese have always respected the music buyer
I did get a Japanese copy of Atom Heart Mother, that was packaged that way and I love it. When I bought it at the time, I thought that's how it should be done! I love that Japan still cares about physical media and the CD in particular! Thanks for the video.
The packaging was similar but cd & blu ray were in loose paper slip cases in my copy, would've preferred the 7 inch single mock up shown here.
But that CD was made with awesomeness! All those extra goodies. That really was 'bang for your buck'.
I like that. It looks like a more tangible experience. I love phsyical media and often feel disappointed by CD gatefold albums.
This is so impressive. I should ask my sister-in-law to pick a few up in Tokyo.
That looks great! Japan has always been a step ahead when it comes to CD'S. (remasters, bonus tracks, etc). Take care! 💿
I always wanted to know why Japan many times has special editions even of british or american bands.
Hi Phil. For me the way forward is a return to heavy-duty jewel cases like we used to get in the first few years of CDs, plus informative booklets. The quality of jewel cases and plastic tray inserts has deteriorated over the years. I'm not bothered about mini-posters, photos, obi strips etc.
I agree. We need more and not less protection. And the cases to be standardized.
Spot on why pay for posters & photos etc you don’t need and will only look at once if at all.
I have to disagree with you on this one, Phil.
If I go back to before the epidemic, I could buy just about any new album as a single CD for around £10.99. Since then, there has been an increase in retail price of (I think) close to 50% because now the expectation is to pay around £15.99 for a single CD, and that's without any improvements in packaging.
If anything, I have found a particular online retailer to have become a lot more expensive for CDs such that I don't buy from them any more because I can get CDs cheaper from *US* retailers like "All Your Music" on our favourite auction site, or directly from the record company themselves. If I have to wait a few more days for the CD to arrive whilst getting it cheaper then so be it.
If the record companies want to give me the Japanese packaging with no further price increases then I might be more inclined to pay £15.99 for a CD but I don't feel I need that extra packaging anyway, given I've just gone through the process of "compacting" my collection by ditching single plastic CD cases and putting them in sleeves instead. Ultimately the additional packaging is just printed cardboard or paper anyway.
If CDs are getting more popular, then more of them are being manufactured and therefore the cost per unit price should decrease - and be passed on to the customer, which I don't see happening currently. So someone's making more money than ever without me, the customer, benefiting - and I am not going to encourage them to increase the price of CDs again just for more paper and cardboard.
They got it right the first time with the plastic jewel case.
I agree. And they look and fit better in the CD furniture with the rest of the collection.
I still love the case but the weak points (centre spindle and hinge tab) are still terrible. Plus removing the booklet can be a real pain.
I like it still because you have a spine to read when you stack them
I am a CD buyer for the artists I follow. I used to be steadfast on the Jewel case but as time has moved along the card fold out CD package I have softened on probably because I am grateful we are still getting CDs.
I do like a deluxe edition glossy book CD set as they are truly lovely.
I have stuck with CDs because I love a physical product of the artists I collect not only the music and extras of deluxe editions but the art/photography and written features.
You don't get any of that special experience as a fan with just a download.
I am pleased for the vinyl lovers that that made a nice comeback for collectors but CDs are my thing as they are ideal for storage and you often get the most content in deluxe CD packages.
As long as vinyl records keep getting more expensive, CDs will sell.
That’s fantastic ,love It .
Let me make a few more points here because this is a really interesting topic for me.
Once a month and many years ago, my buddies and I used to go up to London to check out all the music stores. We'd start in Tower Records in Piccadilly Circus (because they were the cheapest in many cases) then walk up through Soho for a few indie and used record stores there, over to HMV at Oxford Circus and then walk down Oxford Street for the Virgin Megastore. If we had time, we'd pop to Forbidden Planet nearby too. It was a great way to spend a Saturday afternoon.
Today, there's no Tower Records or Virgin Megastore (I don't know if HMV is still at Oxford Circus and, if so, is anywhere near as big as it used to be) and whilst I've not checked out what record stores are in Soho these days, the impression I get from used record stores near me (I can't think of any indie record stores) is that they probably make their money mainly from their online business and sell most of their best product there - meaning that what's left to browse in the shop are the "leftovers" that aren't that interesting.
These days, I tend to focus on the charity shops who, again, have people picking out "the good stuff" and selling it online leaving the "rubbish" in the shop - but occasionally I'll pick up something for a quid or two that's "worth a spin" that I would not have paid full price for.
The Japanese are very lucky if they still have access to Tower Records, because all we have in the High Street these days are the occasional HMV shops that sell as many t-shirts and those deformed plastic dollies of superheroes as they do CDs or vinyl - I don't bother with them at all these days because I never find anything in there that is cheaper than I can get online. I guess that makes me part of the problem in the "decline of the Great British High Street".
This format probably looks great on shelves in record stores and I am sure is a motivator for a lot of impulse buying from customers - but putting this format for sale online where it is bound to be more expensive to buy than a normal CD and will probably cost even more to post due to the size doesn't work for me at all.
I said in my other comment that the cost of a newly released CD has increased by about 50% since the epidemic, yet we get cheaper "digipack" packaging for that price increase - plus the increased production of CDs should make them cheaper anyway.
Me personally, I "play" my CDs once to rip them in FLAC lossless format to my home server, then stick them on a shelf as an archive and backup of themselves. From that point on I just play my music from the server, and I'll convert to compressed MP3 to put my music onto my phone or portable device.
I'm not interested in Spotify or downloadable music, I like having the physical media and any booklets or extras that are included - and I believe the artists probably get a slightly better income from CD sales than from downloads.
If the record companies want to make me feel less "ripped off" as their customer, the first thing they can do is give me PDF copies of the booklets to download from, say, a link on the CD packaging, so I can then feel I am being a bit "greener" in my consumerism and just pull up sleeve notes on a phone or tablet when I fancy a read while enjoying an album. That doesn't mean I want the normal CD booklet replaced, but I'd like the option of both.
I also think they should reduce the price of box sets too - I think about £5 on average per CD in the set is a fair price, bearing in mind the number of 5 CD "Original Artist Series" that came out, again before the epidemic, at about £10. Sure, they had "cheap and cheerful" packaging but add on £15 to cover the cost of a box and a few freebies and 5 CDs for £25 in a reasonably nice box set seems fair - after all, these are just reissues or remasters of previously recorded albums anyway, there's no recording costs or musician studio time to take into account.
Sorry for the long "rant" but let me finish with this closing thought - I'm a huge UFO fan and I buy everything that gets released by them, including re-issues and remasters.
Last week, I ordered the remasters of "The Monkey Puzzle", "You Are Here" and "The Visitor" albums on "that auction site" from "All Your Music" and *SHIPPED FROM THE USA* for £36.33.
The same three CDs from "that big online seller" would today cost £52.32 at their prices - so very nearly £16 difference, shipped from a UK warehouse (not the USA) and it would cost me even more for delivery if the total purchase price was less than £35 because I don't subscribe to their "subscription service" any more (because they started throwing adverts into their streaming movies and demanding more money to remove them so I "did a Victor Meldrew" on them and told them to "B***er off!").
So please don't ask me to be sympathetic to record companies or vendors - they're allowed to blame these increases on the epidemic, Br*xit or war in Ukraine when, as far as I am concerned, it's just capitalist greed. (And that's for everything you buy these days, not just CDs.)
@terrydaktyllus1320 well said sir. I agree with alot of your comments. I have collected cds for decades and like yourself I'm dismayed with the decline in physical media stores. I live near Belfast and there is only one HMV and a few 2nd hand CD stores/charity shops. I do get alot of physical music from amazon and Ebay but. I don't do streaming as it rips off artists and I don't like being manipulated by their suggestions of what to listen to. I do download some albums and individual songs as sometimes they are difficult to find or alot more expensive in physical form. I agree with you about box sets - some are far too expensive. Neil Young's archives vol 3 for example is going to be £250 - 270 for 17 CDs which is a rip off imo.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 An uptick for FLAC! I actually buy FLAC from Qobuz these days and store on cloud and a local NAS box. I can’t be doing with hoarding any more physical stuff at my age and am actively trying to get rid of CDs and other dust collectors. Ripping my music to FLAC and clearing the shelves is the way forward for me - bar a handful of CDs which have a deeply personal significance. They can stay. As for the ancient vinyl stacked in the cupboard….potential ‘grave goods’ at best, superseded by CDs nearly 40 years ago.
I couldn't agree more with both of your comments, I either wait for the price to come down to £12 or less for new cd's or buy second hand from Music Magpie, I've completed many a collection over the past few years averaging between £4 - £7 per album.
Hi, loved your comments, I'd also like to say upfront that I am not a negative person at all, quite the opposite - however some things need to be said. I totally agree with your comments, I think we are being ripped off by the record companies and the prices on some, not all - of their products are unreasonable. Dont they realise that if they dropped their prices on say CD's, that they might actually sell more and maybe even make more profit - heaven forbid they would do that lol. I can just imagine what's going on in the dark recesses of some of these record companies vaults. They must be employing hundreds of people to scour through their vaults looking for anything and everything from the 60's and 70's to remix, remaster, repackage - or do absolutely nothing to lol, and sell of to us music lovers at greatly inflated prices. Where does all this end - having said that I do purchase the odd reissue I love them lolol. So - I buy a lot of my CD's / LP's from charity shops and do very very well, I'd love to support the new product more, but I - like many just cant afford it. That's my rant for the day. Happy picking Cya Doug
did you ever have a go at your Fopps and Rough Trades, there are a couple of those left
I love buying Japanese CDs... Just purchased Pink Floyd's Atom Heart Mother Japanese edition with amazing goodies inside.... Replica concert tickets stubs etc.... Japanese have premium packaging with their CDs... Love buying them ❤
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Yes, I came back with that and DSOTM. Both amazing packages.
Me too :^)
I didn't know they had DSOTM in the same vein. Should seek it out.
Thank for a great video. I agree with your premise and really like that physical format but I prefer the jewel case for storage, protection and portability. Atom Heart Mother was the first CD that I saw in that format. I think that format would it nice for a special edition release but for a standard new release I would prefer the jewel case. Digipaks are sometimes nice and sometimes disappointing. The most important thing is that the CD format doesn’t get abandoned because of the profit generated from the super inflated prices that the record companies are suddenly charging for vinyl. Like you I collect both formats but frankly I reach for my CD versions much more frequently than my vinyl because of convenience. This larger format is really impressive but less convenient for use and storage. Thank you for being passionate about this topic and caring the physical format banner!
Agreed, and maybe the paper package is more to print but it certainly feels cheaper. Never thought I'd miss the jewel case but I was ecstatic when the new Deep Purple CD came in one.
Totally agree with this, Phil. Rival Sons are a great example - a band that who I love by the way - said they actively don't put any effort into their CDs and concentrate only on their vinyl releases, which I think is a huge shame. But I think more bands would invest in their CD releases if they could produce CDs like the Japanese.
The jewel case is still superior. That package is too big and too expensive. Its a glorified digi sleeve. It will rip and fray and not be replaceable.
That's a nice little package. I wouldn't mind if they'd also sell CD's in a longbox (6"x12") size digipack format. It would be thin, practical, but taller than a DVD box that would allow for the inclusion of a relatively thick standard size pocket book containing more pages than the old jewel case booklets.
Being an old fart I only had vinyl 50 years ago. The whole 12" packaging was brilliant, you could read everything and photos and artits work was magnificent. The album was all one and nothing could replace it. Along come cds with their interchangeable jewel cases, small writing and photos, very uninspiring, the digi pack help as like the vinyl albums there was no interchangeability. About 30 years ago I used to say to friends why couldn't companies use album size packaging and put the cd in a slot, thus preserving, especially with cd reissues of classic albums their integrity. At least 30 years after I used to moan about cds somebody in Japan has thought about this and I love this 7" style packaging. I've more or less giving up buying cds and buy mostly vinyl normally originals or great reissues from discogs.
Another great video about the future of CD's
Thanks Phil.🎶🎤🎸🎸🎹🥁🎶
Hi Phil. I would pay more willingly if that would be the new format. I love the packaging and all the bonus ephemera. Part of the wonderful experience of collecting.... although I know that the price point would aimed solely at collectors. The cd deserves such love... as the vinyl. Tha KS for the video.
Brilliant! I love this CD packaging. I had been thinking that companies could use the dvd size cases and include booklets and photos, etc.
To improve the product is the future of the product! My knowledge of the digital music format came with the (promice) expectation of sonic superiority. Henceforth I fully expect that (SACD) Super Audio Compact Disc to supersede the (CD). The record labels and their artists whom strived to deliver their product in this format I commend. Rolling Stones for example. Bravo. I emplore all consumer's to consider this format.
I would definitly buy this type of CD and not so keen on the cardboard cut out as you said over priced. but then I'm old at 64 and have not bought a CD in years!!! great video thanks for sharing..
The only CD packaging configuration like that which I've ever come across is Emerson, Lake & Palmer's "Tarkus". I purchased it on Amazon and honestly didn't realize the packaging was going to be like that. It's okay... I don't mind it. But I'd really prefer just a standard jewel case. Why? Because my steel shelving for 2,000 CD's is specific for standard size cases only. 💿
I like having hi-res downloads and hi-res album art to play on the PC and big tv. I'm also a fan of the super clean Blu ray multichannel versions of albums with the slides and promo videos. I liked the LP's and gatefold albums many years ago, but large art works on the screen are so much better these days!
I remember getting the Mini CDs from Japan that were so small
Still like the jewel case better
I agree. The number of times the card cases of my CDs have creased and buckled (often in transit) or even ripped getting the CDs out of the thinner ones -- Kate Bush's Aerial for instance is a tricky one to slide out the discs without damage. With a jewel case you can just replace it if there's a scratch or break.
@@PaIaeoCIive1684 So do I. Those 7" packaging wouldn't fit in my cd rack though !!! 💿
Only Kate Bush could sing "washing machine"🌀 in the Aerial album lyrics & make it sound credible 🙃
Mee too. I have skipped very CD purchases because the albums didnt come in jewel case even if I wanted the music. I pirated the music on high res and purchase the itunes versions
I wholeheartedly agree.
I always liked the SACD plastic cases, same size as a normal jewel case but much easier to get the booklet out and a much more robust centre.
Oh man. I’m so glad you brought this up. Yes Phil! I totally agree. I have just a couple of those lavish, Japanese packaging CDs. I have TOTO 4 and Santana Abraxus they are hybrid SACDs. I just love them. Expensive? You bet.
I always liked either the deluxe edition packaging with the clear slip case or the packaging with the hard box cover/slip case (like the 2 cd deluxe editions of U2’s early albums)
Great video. Format looks interesting, and wish that when CDs first came out they had followed a similar format with jewelcases; always thought that the size of a 7" combined with a hard case would've been perfect, sturdiness of a jewelcase and larger "canvas" to showcase the artwork.
However, still think a jewelcase is the best format for CDs.
As someone who only buys CDs, my only complaint would be that it would require modifying the shelves I have.
That said, I think this would be a wonderful approach for special editions, reissues, etc.
Great job as always, Phil!
That is pretty creative. Bigger print for my old eyes is a plus but the trade off is storage solutions. Ikea is going to have to come out with new shelving size of the Gnedby. I like it.
Brilliant video. I would certainly like to see a move away from the jewel case. They aren’t robust enough. As a seller I replace any damage to cases but this looks much better.
Brilliant. that's the idea, make them collectable ! like the good ol days.
I wish we could just get back to the point where CDs were when they were the format of choice for most folks, with unfancy packaging that's easy to store. Luxurious packaging really doesn't mean anything to me. Just give me the music on media that's not going to degrade if I take care of it.
Obviously, this is just my personal take. But the way the CD market seems to be going right now just isn't really for me.
I agree.
I'd go a step further and make the package the size and shape of a 12" album, especially if they are multi-disc sets. Have a sheet with the cd hubs and that sheet slips in and out of the gatefold sleeve. For years I thought that the cd just has a packaging issue (until the whole loudness wars issue popped up). But for my ears - a well made cd with it's original sound dynamics still in tact is every bit as good as a quality vinyl pressing and superior in it being less susceptible to damage through handling.
It looks stunning. I would be interested for sure. CD gotta chance in order to survive
I would definitely buy these! When I was stationed in Japan in the late 70's early 80's I bought many vinyl albums there just because Japanese pressing always included extra stuff, and if it's like a Deep Purple album or band I'm really into, I still buy alot from Japan for the extra material they include!
Yeah, interesting topic, and what an array of opinions. It looks cool for someone just starting out a collection, but for those with 20yrs plus of uniform stored items, adding another format is a nightmare. I love my CD jewel box cases and my only problem now is where to buy replacements for when a used purchase is damaged. Not for me! I hate LPs, and dislike the cheap cardboard CD trend. Keep on rockin!🎉
I would love it for the extras, but the fact that it wont fit into my standard CD bookshelves would be a big no-no. I actually have one similarly packed album: The Japanese edition of the 3CD Santana Live in Tokyo album.
I live in Japan and have never seen that!! I got to get my ass to Tower Records in Shibuya!!
Looks great
.anything to replace bloody jewel cases which I've always hated. I like the paper cases too.
Phil I don’t know if you remember but the newest Zakk Sabbath album also came in a CD format. It was in a full sized almost album size and it came with a huge book full of awesome pictures of Zakk Wylde and his band. I would love for something like that every time for CDs that would be incredible. Obviously that’s going to cost some bucks but definitely worth collecting.
I'm not a collector but I buy music, preferably on physical format, in order to listen to. I'm not a fan of posters and other things some albums come with. These take up space and I rarely ever look at them. These things drive, to me, a big issue: there are way too many different package sizes. And I'm not referring to the difference in sizes between vinyl and CD format but differences within a single format. There are boxsets of many different sizes and forms. There are single and double album sizes, jewel cases and cardboard cases, etc. The biggest issue this represents is that you need different storage systems to accommodate al those different formats. I wish the industry would settle on some standard formats. These Japanese CD release do look appealing due to the bigger artwork. But they would be a nightmare, for me, to store them since I don't have a storage system that can hold these. I currently have storage systems that accommodate vinyl albums and CD. I wouldn't like to add yet another one. By the way, I do hate the CD jewel cases. I have replaced most of mine by plastic sleeves. I prefer that because it resembles a vinyl release but smaller. And the added benefit is that it reduces the storage size by a third.
I still buy mostly CD’s even if i grew up buying vinyls. I think they sound better and you don’t get the pops. Still the LP cover can’t be beat. I’ve thought they should put CD’s in LP sleeves instead of the plastic jewel case.
Brilliant! How innovative and collectible.
Great video as usual!
I am a big CD collector (near 6000) and still buy then on a weekly basis, mainly on Discogs, used-mint condition. I love the format from the beginning but can’t deny that package wise they evolved much in the late 90’s, with some reissues (unfortunately poorly remastered) bringing more information on more well designed booklets.
I prefer the jewel box not only because it protects the CD better, but it make the side (in the shelf) easy to read. I dislike the less inspired vinyl copy packaging, especially those without booklet.
Already used to the 5-12 euros per used CD, I don’t think that I am prepared for paying 20+ euros for just a fancy package, but that is just me, and it doesn’t help the CD vs vinyl war at all, I know :)
Only in the case of a real and significant improvement in sound quality (remastering / remixing), then I will make the effort… occasionally, not to substitute my CD collection all over again.
The reason record companies PREFER cardboard packaging than a plastic jewel case is because it weighs less than cases. That's important considering the cost of distributing CD's on planes or trucks is based on both weight & volume. The heavier the load, more these vehicles burns fuel, which means buying more expensive gasoline. Trust me i know.
Single CD Digi-Cases are usually under 4 ounces when shipped in bubble mailers which save online retailers and second hand retailers about 25 to 40 cents a shipment if they go over 4 ounces. That may play a factor since I suspect a majority of cd sales are online.
I love that. I would buy that for sure get alot of stuff with it. That's awesome. That would make CDs "cool" again.
I like the cd jewel case the best, I like digi pack case too, those grew on me, it took time. I really don't care for ecopac's at all. I sleave all my CD cases, it adds a deluxe feeling to them, and protects them. I use inner sleeves for CD's that have those ecopac's. I do like the packaging of what you showed, the outer sleeve looks like it's a stiff stock.
You notice the cd info sheet is cd sized so you can move the cd to a jewel case and keep the other paperwork pristine.
Great observation!
Hi Phil
I love this format and have a number of Japanese editions including a number of Yes albums from the debut to Big Generator.
Beck Bogert and Appice self titled and Live Double but my absolute favourite is Journey’s Escape which is packed with extras. Here’s the description from the Japanese site :Japanese original release. 35th anniversary deluxe edition of "Escape" release from Journey. Consists of 3 discs. Disc 1 (Blu-spec CD2) includes the original tracks with bonus one(s). Features DSD remastering, using the original analog master tapes. Both Disc 2 (Blu-spec CD2) and 3 (DVD) feature a concert held in Houston. This set includes the followings: four 7-inch-vinyl-sized cardboard sleeve cover artworks, a mini-reproduction of a pamphlet for the 1982 Escape tour in Japan, a mini-reproduction of a flyer for a 1982 concert at Nippon Budokan, and a mini-reproduction of a ticket for a 1982 concert at Nippon Budokan.
I wish they would release more of the classic hard rock, metal , AOR and prog albums in this format as there doesn’t seem to be that many.
Are you aware the Japanese did experiment with CDs in full size LP covers? This was around 20 years ago and among thr releases were 10cc’s Original Soundtrack, Elton John’s Goodbye Yellowbrick Road, Bon Jovi’s Slippery When Wet and Def Leppard’s Hysteria. These had a 12 inch card with the cd attached but had the benefit of a full-size album sleeve and they are amazing. Unfortunately they never seemed to take off and there were only a couple of dozen titles pressed as far as I know.
I also love the Japanese replica mini lp sleeve CDs which were extremely popular for years although not many titles come out these days and there are still some titles I’d love to see on this format. All the Tubes albums, Legs Diamond, Saga, Dream Theater and Max Webster ones spring to mind.
The attention to detail is incredible and when it comes to packaging, the Japanese are light years ahead of the rest of the world.
Phil I have a number of Japanese SACDs that are presented in this format, among them is Toto, Santana, Jeff Beck, Billy Joel. The extras are a real bonus and the entire package is a luxury product.
I really wish more SACDs were released in future if there is to be a serious CD revival. it would provide another niche luxury product but also a superior audiophile product that could easily become a niche collectible (much like vinyl is).
Also be good if labels were to produce 24 bit remasters- I have over 150 of these and the sound quality is also superior and in the audiophile zone. These are still available at reasonable prices- the 1999 Bowie 24 Bit remasters are worth the investment! 24 bit remasters appear to have been overlooked when folks discuss audiophile quality CDs Also 20/22 & 32 bit discs worth seeking out
HDCD, UHQCD, XRCD, K2HD are also worth searching out.
Been saying this for years Phil. What a lovely format package. Really good compromise. You are on the money IMHO.
Spectacular :^)
Thank you Phil.
Okay, I love that! I’d absolutely buy those if they ever made it to the US.
Thanks for sharing this ! Had no idea this format was available but I’m not surprised the Japanese originated such bespoke packaging. Beautiful-
So cool to find your channel. I just got some cd Japanese releases and was so impressed with the packaging! Absolutely amazing experience!
Thank you 🙏
Love that packaging Phil right up my Alley; I would love if all cds came in that sort of packaging with all the extra goodies.
The new packaging idea is quite cool as far as I'm concerned .
Brilliant packaging. Nice video. Thanks!
Awesome! I love that format! I own about 10,000 cds
I actually live in Japan, but have never seen this packaging! Would definitely consider to buy if a release I'm interested comes out like this though!
For me it's about choices and the room you have to store your fave music .the music is the most important factor to me I have one room which stores my vinyl and cds and I don't want it to get out of control.
I agree ! That is so ingenious, , reinvented the format , makes it worth every dollar !!will look great on the shelf
Phil, I love that! What is the format called (so I can look into it further)? Thanks 😊
I agree with You; Almost all of my collection is Japanese Mini-LPs and I've been collecting these magnificent 7'' inch CDs since the early issues...I adore them! I was telling Brendon Snyder that This is The Future!
The issue I have with jewel cases is that they often get cracked during postage.
The beauty is they can be replaced, try that with a damaged cardboard sleeve.
That's because the quality has been in freefall for some time.
CDs jewel-cases manufactured in the 80s and 90s were much stronger. In the UK it's now quite difficult to buy quality jewel-cases - not helped by the biggest and best manufacturer being in Belgium - and because of Brexit most sellers here prefer to sell cheap junk. Naming no names!
I've had that issue as well. Jewel cases of the 1980s and early 1990s were using thicker plastic.
I'll often go to thrift stores just looking for old jewel cases to re-purpose.
Yep, sign me up Phil. Just think of all the juicy extras you could cram into that oh so accomodating new box shape. Love CD's, a new refresh on the packaging front could be just what is needed to keep the format alive.
Great points Phil. It might be an option as long as they don't introduce 'dynamic pricing'.
Jewel cases are the best because they keep the disc (and booklet) protected. Tower Records still in business ?!
Hi Phil. Love your channel. I’m a multichannel enthusiast with my own “Aussie Surround Sound Enthusiasts” Facebook group with 74 members & growing. The Japanese have been releasing these (beautiful) 7” SACD Quadraphonic CD’s. I’ve got Santana & Abraxas my favourite (they sound spectacular in Quad from the original masters) as well as Billy Joel’s The Stranger & Toto IV in 5.1/Stereo/Hybrid SACD. There are many other artists available! I’m going to Japan next year specifically also going to the wonderful Music shops in Tokyo, particularly to pick up The Rolling Stones SHM-CD or SACD if possible of all the Stones albums after Ya Ya’s…ABKCO have already remastered all the earlier Stones albums in SACD Stereo. They sound magnificent. 👏👏🎸🎹🥁🎶👍😎
Hi Phil. I can see what the appeal would be of that Japanese style packaging, but if I'm honest I wish they would just return to the jewel case with a good booklet. I recognise though that at my age (56) I am not the future of CD, if it is to have one. But if CD is to survive, something needs to happen with the packaging. I have never liked the mini LP format, it simply feels too unsubstantial.
I would definitely buy these, but I would have to re buy all the Bowie albums again. I love CDs I have very little space so the CD is perfect for me. 💿⚡️
Never seen that kind of packaging before, genius! In Japan people still cherish physical formats in great volumes, but it would be worth trying to sell that kind of packaging in the West for sure.
The weak link in the design is the plastic CD holder. With continued use the plastic will be stressed and the spigot might break. I have had similar failures with CD Digipaks and because the plastic holder is glued to the carboard it cannot be replaced. The CD jewel case simply snaps together, and it is easily dismantled to allow a damaged component to be replaced. The booklet is a standard size and if necessary, the entire case can be replaced. The case for SACD and hybrid layer CDs are more of a problem due to availability.
Hi Phil, I would be very happy to pay extra for a format like that. Hopefully we will see them soon in the UK, but I fear, it will be a long time before we see that sort of innovation in the UK
I have the edition of 40 years of Toto - Toto IV in that 7" sleeve format and is simply fantastic. Includes posters, tour book, reproductions of the singles that appear over there and more. I hope they issue more and more titles. These types of editions make people invest more for something really special and not just a plastic or cardboard packaging.
Hey Phil! I totally agree with you. I love these CD packaging! The Japanese still cares alot about physical media. Do you know if there is a website where we can purchase CDs with these packaging? Or does it all have to be purchased in Japan?
I’d buy them. No question.
I actually like the new digipaks more than the jewel cases, and that s what made me buy cds again in 2024 after 10 years. Now imagine all of them looking like that japanese version, that would be 10 times better.
You make an excellent point. Love it!
Nooooooo........ I would need all new storage shelves. 😁 With that said, I really like how much care & thought the Japanese put into all their musical releases (vinyl, CD etc.) & yes I would jump on that bandwahon
This is exactly how I wanted my latest album to be printed for CD! But mis-communications with the pressing company they ended up the normal size, which though slightly disappointing, did end up being a fair bit cheaper and also easier to carry around to gigs and such... but definitely for the next one - that one looks beautiful! A great idea for indie-artists to stand out.
I love them. I'm sold!!
I still like the old standard jewel case but this is the best alternative that I have seen.
Would also make me keep buying. Hate those barebone packages. I remember some time ago there was a small run of similar packaging. Don't remember all releases, but T-Rex - Slider was one. Looked up size on a store and says
182 × 183 × 4 mm · 94 g
Phil you are wrong about there being rows and rows of this format- the format you are using for this video are for special editions and are limited to very big artists - Taylor Swift Ariana Grande Lady Gaga etc - the majority of the artists you are thinking about would never ever have the opportunity to have the 7" style format- I would say that for all the releases in a year it is less than 1%. That being so - you are 100% correct that the format is frankly beautiful- keep in mind too that they sell very well but are highly limited! So 1975 is a great example of what overseas companies can do but won't!
Thats amazing. Just as if you've bought a box set.
It's funny because I've just recently started collecting vinyl but been a CD collector for years. I was always so disappointed when a new album I wanted came in a cardboard sleeve. Finally how, as you say a vinyl record is just the same but it seems to have a different feeling.
Anything Japanese is just better. I've bought a few deluxe edition CDs that came with booklets and stuff and it just feels so much more premium.
As an Australian Jazz Presenter who with my Program Researcher have been pushing CD for years, this is fantastic news!
Love this. 7 inch is good. A CD in a full LP sized 12 inch would be even better
For anniversary editions,then I would consider this size/presentation with all the extras photos thrown in.Apart from reading the text as a man of a certain age,I have no issues with the miniature replica sleeve. I prefer this nowadays to the traditional fragile plastic dual casing.
Hi Phil, thanks aagin for this very informative video. I totally agree with you. Besides the looks is a Japanese pressing usually more quality regarding sound.
Thanks for the update sir. A lot to take in with that one
I find it difficult to remove and replace the cd in covers without getting finger prints on the cd and difficult to see the cd title if you stack them end on and want to read the spine
No thanks Phil. That just looked like lots of bits of unnecessary paper to me and larger space taking packaging. I have no issue with the little card sleeves. I just wish that for the price, companies would package them better for posting so that at least a percentage of them arrive undamaged.
I hope we'll get more similar releases in the near future.