Yeah, as I mentioned on other comments, this was my misplay, I forgot you could +1 and declare no targets, honestly the secret lair karn makes it hard to read oopsies
@@DanteMTG_ Understandable, especially since it's printed with the wrong rules. The secret lair version of Karn lacks the "up to one" part of the targeting.
@@DraconisMarchVII The old narrator got too busy, but I think what OP is saying is that Alex's narration is lightyears better than his first stab at it. Which I agree with 100%. Ridiculous level of improvement in such a short amount of time.
Dante’s ability to go three cards deep with thrasios to fish for the answer to that pyroblast reminded me of how strong Thrasios is. Being able to always have mana up for interaction or a sink for you to dump it all in is honestly so powerful
Feedback: I thought Higher sounded really good when I increased the speed to 1.25x.This might be a short-term solution while Higher learns to narrate this stuff at the pace of his predecessor (or, I suppose, a long-term solution if Higher doesn't wish to learn how to do that). It seems to me that the pace is the most important thing. As soon as I increased the speed to something resembling the usual pace, everything seemed "back to normal" and Higher's voice fit much more naturally.
I've seen Syr Carah on this channel a few times now and each time I feel like it falls flat on its face :( I looked in the decklist and couldn't see a wincon. I saw snapcaster, but no twinflame or anything to copy it with? What is this deck trying to do?
It's honestly just a storm list, LED/Wheel/Underworld breach ends up being what I win with often, but being unlucky to begin with often plagues the deck. Hitting any "combo" piece way before the deck gets to value town really fucks it up. Sure I could make it better, but it's been fun and it's just been genuinely unlucky on the channel
Question about the glint-horn / malcolm combo -- if one opponent has sufficiently more life than the others, it shouldn't work, right? Whenever it's used or talked about I've only ever seen it be an instant win, but if I have 40 life and everyone else has 10 life, I can't be killed with just the glint-horn's damage.
you could deal 19 more damage after killing the two players at 10 life before getting to one treasure, so while technically yes, they couldnt kill you from forty, they could stop after generating 30 treasures and win the game with 30 treasures lol
Each activation costs 2 mana and generates 1 treasure per opponent still alive. The first 10 discards would be net +1 treasure each, then all subsequent ones (with you and the Malcolm player being the only ones left in the game) would be net -1. The Malcolm player could use those 10 treasures to bring you from 30 to 21 life (with 1 treasure left over), but would need more mana from other sources to continue.
@@music00soba @Garryl367, thanks for the confirmation that I'm not going crazy haha. When something like commander spellbook says "near-infinite damage" I started second-guessing my intuition.
If I can be a fan and a critic, I LOVE Ryan’s voice as the narrator for the videos. Higher is a cool guy and I appreciate seeing him make appearances on different channels and what not.. but Ryan is blessed with an announcer-like voice. And also Syr Carah doesn’t really seem like a cEDH commander.. anyways keep up the great work!
Great video, game and edit! Just a critic about the narration: sometimes the voice goes loud out of nowhere, and it seems a little fake with the scripted reactions. Great job for whoever is doing this part now, I know how hard it is and naturalness comes with practice.
When the Lightning bolt killed the Drannith when Cal try to go to endstep, doesn't that mean that when priority come back to him, he's still in main phase 2, letting him cast Prosper ? Or am I understanding it wrong ?
In the first game, how does he have enough cards in his library to kill all 3 opponents? I didn't count the cards in hand but he has to do 89 damage which means he has to draw that many cards. I didn't see anything in the decklist that would have protected him from milling himself out without moving to his 2nd main phase. Noxious revival is there but I didn't see any graveyard recursion, and nothing to give timetwister flash. Am I missing something?
Great games! I don't suppose you've got a correct list for Prosper? The link in the description seems much lower power, and doesn't contain an SDT or a Citadel
Just starting the episode, and is there a reason Dante isn't upticking Karn the first two turns? Seems like a no-brainer, unless I'm missing something (which I probably am, let's face it)
Not sure I understand the harnfel/top loop. You tap top to draw a card then discard that card to activate harnfel and exile the top. So I get how he can dig through his deck this way but where is all the fast mana/dual caster/twinflame coming from? If they weren’t in his hand already the harnfel/top loop presumably wouldn’t let him keep all of those.
@@psykotic1012 no, he didn’t cast breach. When he activated harnfel the first time he exiled top and breach. You can only choose one card to cast and the other stays in exile.
Not that it changes the outcome of the game, since he didn't use it, but how did Cal play his City of Brass the same turn he played a Mountain from exile?
Good games! It was cool to see Prosper go off. As constructive feedback though, the mispronunciations are killing me. Sen-say's top not sen-see's and tome-bound not tomb-bound.
Maybe it's the fact that I've never heard higher narrating a game or just that I'm used to Ryan narrating with such speed but I kind of fell asleep listening to this game. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against higher I'm probably just used to Ryan.
Did I miss something? Cause the horn requires you to discard a card. It never lets you get another card in hand. So you can only discard all the card in your hand so see 2 times that many cards. Pretty sure he doesn’t win right away but he can gain a lot of value.
I find the ... lively narration more distracting. I feel like it used to be more... clinical most the time, unless something really spicey happened. There are also some places of weird emphasis being used... Those are just my thoughts and opinions. Either way, you are all doing an awesome job and we all appreciate your hard work and efforts.
Syr Carah just can't catch a break! I think in 3 games I've seen it bolted 4 times. Then in this last game it failed to go off because of exiling 2 important and expensive cards, and then wasn't fast enough even with the runaway steam engine on the field. It's starting to look like a hard deck to win with.
When the narrator said 2 players considered rage quitting, I wondered: Do cedh players get salty? I mean, you all know what you're going to play the most powerful and quickest cards so I assumed cedh players are always cool with whatever happens to the board.
I would argue that cEDH players are the least salty players, but it can happen to anyone. I say that as someone who plays one of the highest salt score decks in cEDH-sometimes people get frustrated. Which is why I love it
I just wish they would say what's happening. The worst thing anyone can do is not communicate (just ask a game company after a bad launch of an anticipated game). I get excited, realise it's not Ryan, and then just close the video.
We have clarified on most every video now (and on social media & Reddit) that Ryan is just taking a temporary step back from the channel due to his day job demanding much more of his time recently. Not sure what else we can do to communicate that.
I don’t like the new narrator at all, he tries too much to sound like the old one, same words, same jokes, same emphasis, I just don’t like it. Hope the old one comes back atleast once in a while.
All love to you all. But 1.25x speed makes this more watchable. Perhaps the new Narrator could play with faster delivery. Still a great job none the less!
Higher isnt all that entertaining to listen to sadly. He certainly has a great voice, but he speaks too slowly and he's all over the place with his tone. He emphasizes things that dont need to be emphasized, some words and sentences don't flow smoothly and it generally feels like he was given a script, told to read it out loud and given no time to practice. He definitely has potential tho, he just needs more time to settle in.
Definitely like the other announcer better. This guy reads too slow, emphasizes words awkwardly and unnecessarily, and overall just inferior to the other.
Please bring the normal narrator back. This guy is trying his hardest, but sounds like he is one pegging away from moaning "yes daddy" in between takes. It is distracting.
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22:05 killing someone who had been the target of beatdown for the whole game and then playing survival of the fittest is hilarious to me
On point
“OKAY FINALLY ANOTHER SYR CARAH GAME I CAN’T WAT TO SEE HER IN AC- o wait no she’s dead.”
“THERE’S ANOTHER GAME LETSG- oops yeah no she’s dead again.”
They really should’ve made her a 3/4
Did I miss something? Why didn't Dante +1 Karn during each of their turns? Why not declare no targets upon resolution?
Yeah, as I mentioned on other comments, this was my misplay, I forgot you could +1 and declare no targets, honestly the secret lair karn makes it hard to read oopsies
@@DanteMTG_ It really does make it very hard to read.
@@DanteMTG_ Understandable, especially since it's printed with the wrong rules. The secret lair version of Karn lacks the "up to one" part of the targeting.
@@Garryl367 thats a big oops on wizards part
@@DanteMTG_ also you could target arbor elf and prevent t2 malcolm...
Nice to see prosper in action, really cool deck ^^
Great games! and thumb up for the narrator:) 200% better than last time and I really enjoyed it :) keep up the good work:)
What happened to the old one?
@@DraconisMarchVII The old narrator got too busy, but I think what OP is saying is that Alex's narration is lightyears better than his first stab at it. Which I agree with 100%. Ridiculous level of improvement in such a short amount of time.
There's that creamery smooth voice I need on a Monday afternoon
The interaction by Cal at 9:00 was fantastic. They played really, really well
I laugh out loud when ancient tomb mana crypt into karn happened. Feels like tron
I didn’t realize I had cEDH withdrawals until I saw these games 🔥🔥🔥
Dante’s ability to go three cards deep with thrasios to fish for the answer to that pyroblast reminded me of how strong Thrasios is. Being able to always have mana up for interaction or a sink for you to dump it all in is honestly so powerful
Is the Prosper deck list the one played in the video? That's a very budget cEDH list if it is!
They mentioned in another comments that that list was actually their budget deck
Oh boy oh boy Syr Carah stayed on the field for a turn cycle!
>Abrade
For real, Syr Carah has such terrible luck on pwp videos.
Yeah... A 5 mana 3/3 with a tap ability, and also restricts you to monored.
Passssssssss.
@@Magidex that's why his name is chad dude
Tap sol ring, activate thrasios 3x times.
Simic goals
Amazing
Nice to see Sultai Kodama go for a spin! (:
Great games!
Quick question: are the dragon shield sleeves matte? I absolutely love dragon shield but vastly prefer their matte sleeves
I'm in the same boat love art sleeves but most the time they aren't matte >_
Great set of games and great commentary! Much better pacing!
Feedback: I thought Higher sounded really good when I increased the speed to 1.25x.This might be a short-term solution while Higher learns to narrate this stuff at the pace of his predecessor (or, I suppose, a long-term solution if Higher doesn't wish to learn how to do that). It seems to me that the pace is the most important thing. As soon as I increased the speed to something resembling the usual pace, everything seemed "back to normal" and Higher's voice fit much more naturally.
Does "predecessor" mean that the previous guy isn't narrating anymore?
@@Oopsall Yeah I want to know too.
Last time Higher narrated it was posted that Ryan wasn’t fully quitting but instead busy at his “regular job.”
Lol I just tried this and you’re right, it’s almost like the old pacing. Definitely doing this from now on until we get the old announcer back.
I've seen Syr Carah on this channel a few times now and each time I feel like it falls flat on its face :( I looked in the decklist and couldn't see a wincon. I saw snapcaster, but no twinflame or anything to copy it with? What is this deck trying to do?
It's honestly just a storm list, LED/Wheel/Underworld breach ends up being what I win with often, but being unlucky to begin with often plagues the deck. Hitting any "combo" piece way before the deck gets to value town really fucks it up.
Sure I could make it better, but it's been fun and it's just been genuinely unlucky on the channel
I love the new narrator! I love Ryan, too, but I love the new guy, too!
Well not new, but new as the narrator
in cedh, it's ALWAYS gonna be one of those games
x1.25 speed does wonders for this narration
Yes, totally! I just commented with the exact same thing!
Good job, in my opinion you really improved your narration
Question about the glint-horn / malcolm combo -- if one opponent has sufficiently more life than the others, it shouldn't work, right? Whenever it's used or talked about I've only ever seen it be an instant win, but if I have 40 life and everyone else has 10 life, I can't be killed with just the glint-horn's damage.
you could deal 19 more damage after killing the two players at 10 life before getting to one treasure, so while technically yes, they couldnt kill you from forty, they could stop after generating 30 treasures and win the game with 30 treasures lol
Each activation costs 2 mana and generates 1 treasure per opponent still alive. The first 10 discards would be net +1 treasure each, then all subsequent ones (with you and the Malcolm player being the only ones left in the game) would be net -1. The Malcolm player could use those 10 treasures to bring you from 30 to 21 life (with 1 treasure left over), but would need more mana from other sources to continue.
@@music00soba @Garryl367, thanks for the confirmation that I'm not going crazy haha. When something like commander spellbook says "near-infinite damage" I started second-guessing my intuition.
Hey cal! Nice combo bro..man that was a game ..see u next time
I think we need Higher to narrate at least one episode with as much persistent petitioners as Ryan once did.
If I can be a fan and a critic, I LOVE Ryan’s voice as the narrator for the videos. Higher is a cool guy and I appreciate seeing him make appearances on different channels and what not.. but Ryan is blessed with an announcer-like voice. And also Syr Carah doesn’t really seem like a cEDH commander.. anyways keep up the great work!
love the commentary!
Great video, game and edit! Just a critic about the narration: sometimes the voice goes loud out of nowhere, and it seems a little fake with the scripted reactions. Great job for whoever is doing this part now, I know how hard it is and naturalness comes with practice.
When the Lightning bolt killed the Drannith when Cal try to go to endstep, doesn't that mean that when priority come back to him, he's still in main phase 2, letting him cast Prosper ? Or am I understanding it wrong ?
You're correct
It was cast in the endstep, not second main. Notably the words "at the end of Cal's turn" 14:48
@@chadhendrixs I haven't reached the second game yet, haha. Got distracted by the comments. Thanks for the clarifications!
@@mordamen I'm stupid thank you !
At 8:30, shouldn’t Dante draw a ton of cards from the Storm copies of Flusterstorm?
I'm a simple man. I see Syr Carah, I hit the like button
In the first game, how does he have enough cards in his library to kill all 3 opponents? I didn't count the cards in hand but he has to do 89 damage which means he has to draw that many cards. I didn't see anything in the decklist that would have protected him from milling himself out without moving to his 2nd main phase. Noxious revival is there but I didn't see any graveyard recursion, and nothing to give timetwister flash. Am I missing something?
At 19:42 can Alex attack with Opposition agent when he’s just gained control of it?
sick game fellas.
At the end of the first game, why didn't Dante mindbreak trap the glinthorn?
Is there a reason for which Karn was never activated?
Great games! I don't suppose you've got a correct list for Prosper? The link in the description seems much lower power, and doesn't contain an SDT or a Citadel
I asked about the Prosper deck list too! I wouldn't think that Hedonist's Trove would be in a competitive deck
Hey there! Cal here. That's actually my casual Prosper list... not sure how it was the one that got uploaded. We'll get the right one up!
18:04 How does Praetor's Grasp work with Alex's Opposition Agent in play?
Praetors grasp searhces an opponents library while opposition agent controls opponents searching their own library not other players
Lets gooo we love Cal wins
What happened to Folger? Doesn't he play anymore?
That 2nd game ,man that was ruff,everyone had to keep passing the turn,the study got counted, and soon the fish will be gone
Just starting the episode, and is there a reason Dante isn't upticking Karn the first two turns? Seems like a no-brainer, unless I'm missing something (which I probably am, let's face it)
No, you're correct. It's "up to one target" so he could have targeted his Mana Crypt and elected not to animate it.
He said in another comment that he forgot it can do that, and to be fair he was using the weird secret lair one with just a wall of text on it
@@toastbreab Thanks for the answer
Not sure I understand the harnfel/top loop. You tap top to draw a card then discard that card to activate harnfel and exile the top. So I get how he can dig through his deck this way but where is all the fast mana/dual caster/twinflame coming from? If they weren’t in his hand already the harnfel/top loop presumably wouldn’t let him keep all of those.
Underworld Breach is a good card. Guess they just missed it in the script.
@@psykotic1012 no, he didn’t cast breach. When he activated harnfel the first time he exiled top and breach. You can only choose one card to cast and the other stays in exile.
@@Naptiva harmful let’s you cast all cards exiles with it
@@argonnas2 oh you’re right. Why did I think it was just one card? Thanks.
Wizard Battle!! Love to see it ..who's going to win? Stay locked well be right back
Not that it changes the outcome of the game, since he didn't use it, but how did Cal play his City of Brass the same turn he played a Mountain from exile?
Very nice!
Good games! It was cool to see Prosper go off.
As constructive feedback though, the mispronunciations are killing me.
Sen-say's top not sen-see's and tome-bound not tomb-bound.
alex broke the legendary rule. you cant have duplicate legendary creatures on your battlefield at once
What did he break it with? Opposition agent isn't a legendary creature and I don't remember him having multiples of anything else.
Who is the new announcer?
Forgive me for my ignorance, but what happened to the previous narrator?
But whose line is it?
Maybe it's the fact that I've never heard higher narrating a game or just that I'm used to Ryan narrating with such speed but I kind of fell asleep listening to this game. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against higher I'm probably just used to Ryan.
Higher definitely has a smooth, relaxing voice. I did notice that he spoke with a bit of a faster pace than his first narrating attempt, at least.
@@MexiPerplexi yeah his improvement is rapid. we complained, and he seem to have tried really hard to give us what we want
Watch it at 1.25x speed, and it will feel much more like the usual pace
I think it would have been relevant to state the numbers chosen on wheel misfortune especially in Alex’s case.
I recommend 1.25 speed 👍
I don't get why Dante didn't activate Karn without announcing a target. This way, he would have sticked a bit longer.
I thought the same thing, it says up to one so he can plus without targeting.
I imagine he didn't know you could just plus and not target
@@Joolenplus This tbh, having the secret lair karn also makes the card harder to read lmaooo, but yeah it was a misplay, oops!
this pubstomper smh
Am I wrong or is alex higher?
Alex is indeed higher!
Jin Gitaxias progress tyrant when?
why did cal pass with bolas citidal he had a imperial seal on top? oh opp agent got it
Did I miss something?
Cause the horn requires you to discard a card.
It never lets you get another card in hand. So you can only discard all the card in your hand so see 2 times that many cards.
Pretty sure he doesn’t win right away but he can gain a lot of value.
He draws using divining top and discards that card.
I love how a $150 deck too out all those 3k-5k decks!
Cal accidentally uploaded the wrong list, it's correct now and is ~4.5k lol
What happened to Ryan's narrations? Not complaining, just curious
Great first game ,never tell me the olds lol..everyone died by to much thresure? That's how I want to go lol
I find the ... lively narration more distracting. I feel like it used to be more... clinical most the time, unless something really spicey happened. There are also some places of weird emphasis being used...
Those are just my thoughts and opinions. Either way, you are all doing an awesome job and we all appreciate your hard work and efforts.
Prosper toom-bound
Syr Carah just can't catch a break! I think in 3 games I've seen it bolted 4 times. Then in this last game it failed to go off because of exiling 2 important and expensive cards, and then wasn't fast enough even with the runaway steam engine on the field. It's starting to look like a hard deck to win with.
Cal playing a mountain off harnfel then a city of brass after the wheel oops
Dante really should have been ticking up Karn
I would've been so butthurt that first game. CAL HAD SO MANY ANSWERS
Dante u know what u did? Had to go buddy lol..lock for almost the whole game ,then a wheel ?
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Never mind lol I thought I heard two people died in one turn 😅
Huh, Cal isn't so bad at magic when he isn't playing Rashmi. Weirdddddd :P
all the no pays for study first game were painful even if sometimes necessary. Just felt like giving the game a bit to malcolm..rough.
Plus Karn for the sake of Mirrodin..!
When the narrator said 2 players considered rage quitting, I wondered: Do cedh players get salty? I mean, you all know what you're going to play the most powerful and quickest cards so I assumed cedh players are always cool with whatever happens to the board.
I would argue that cEDH players are the least salty players, but it can happen to anyone. I say that as someone who plays one of the highest salt score decks in cEDH-sometimes people get frustrated. Which is why I love it
That's what I was thinking too. Thanks for confirming dude.
Day one of asking for commander but whoever kills themselves first wins
the new narrator needs to talk faster 😭 it’s still slow at 2x speed
I want those sleeves but I'm from europe :(
new narrator is too dramatic, imo
Sooo.... Ryan is not casting the games ever again? :c
I just wish they would say what's happening. The worst thing anyone can do is not communicate (just ask a game company after a bad launch of an anticipated game). I get excited, realise it's not Ryan, and then just close the video.
We have clarified on most every video now (and on social media & Reddit) that Ryan is just taking a temporary step back from the channel due to his day job demanding much more of his time recently. Not sure what else we can do to communicate that.
20 seg instalike xd
Nope, I can't do this commenter.
I''m not saying that I don't like Higher, but it could be cool to try all of the cast members as a narrator (even just for a single game or episode)
Bring back Ryan!!!! Tell his real job he’s needed elsewhere
Old voice is better
Karn did nothing wrong
Why dont activate karns +1 on the first 2 turns just to protect him?
@@felixdecastro Yup, I realized this after I had already passed the turn, it was a misplay for sure.
Karn did everything wrong
Get lava dart'ed
@@chadhendrixs sadgeroni
Great games but the inflection from the narrator is way over the top
I don’t like the new narrator at all, he tries too much to sound like the old one, same words, same jokes, same emphasis, I just don’t like it. Hope the old one comes back atleast once in a while.
All love to you all. But 1.25x speed makes this more watchable. Perhaps the new Narrator could play with faster delivery. Still a great job none the less!
Its crazy how ridiculous the opening hands are so often on this channel. They must be draw master wizards.
Higher isnt all that entertaining to listen to sadly. He certainly has a great voice, but he speaks too slowly and he's all over the place with his tone. He emphasizes things that dont need to be emphasized, some words and sentences don't flow smoothly and it generally feels like he was given a script, told to read it out loud and given no time to practice. He definitely has potential tho, he just needs more time to settle in.
hes improved since last time. definitely working very hard to give us what we want
Try it at 1.25x speed. Lots of the stuff you were talking about won't even be noticeable anymore.
Where is the old narrator?? His voice was so epic. This new one is kind monotone and not as exciting...
Try it at 1.25x speed. I got used to the new narrator's voice almost immediately at this speed.
Definitely like the other announcer better. This guy reads too slow, emphasizes words awkwardly and unnecessarily, and overall just inferior to the other.
Please bring the normal narrator back. This guy is trying his hardest, but sounds like he is one pegging away from moaning "yes daddy" in between takes. It is distracting.
The fuck? So disrespectful.
Karn did nothing wrong
Karn never plused. That is wrong
@@kablamio5736 boo hoo