Forreal, saying Denzel > Drake or Drake not being a GOAT is an insane take just because of Drake's numbers and impact are the same type of arguments people use to dismiss people like MF DOOM being above Drake/Future/etc. or generally being one of the GOAT rappers. It's goofy reasoning, and I was surprised to see the NFR boys give credence to it. I'm not saying that either of the two Drake takes are inarguable, but there's strong arguments for them.
I hate when people use "influence" and "impact on the genre" as their only argument for why someone is a GOAT. If we give ignore Drake's music and call him great just because of his impact, then we might as well have Soulja Boy in every top 25 list.
Exactly, you need to have more then just “impact”, someone like Kendrick has the impact, critical acclaim, skill, and longevity. All drake has is impact, if you’re going based of that alone you may as well out 50 cent or t pain in your top 10 of all time.
Saying Drake is the Hip Hop GOAT is like saying Nickleback is the GOAT rock band. Drake’s discography is nowhere near good enough to be considered the GOAT, he’s just popular. And if you want to talk about influence, even then, I think Kanye is far more influential than Drake.
Denzel Curry & I are the same age (28) and he been in the game 10 years now and he's already got an insane catalog. IMO he's everything a modern young rapper under 30 should be and deserves the marketing push.
Been in the game 10 years and still can't name 1 of his songs. Music critics will swear he's good and yet I never hear anyone bring that bums name up or play a single song of his. Carti wipes him down Travis wipes him down Savage wipes him down Gunna wipes him down J fold wipes him down Don toliver wipes him down Uzi wipes him down Yeat wipes him down Tyler wipes him down Future wipes him down Ye wipes him down Dot wipes him down JID wipes him down Etc... could keep going to 100 rappers that wash him rn he's a bum so are his fans
@@sabus1265 if you haven't listened, he's definitely worth it! I really do recommend melt my eyez see your future if you like more conscious rapping. Melt Session #1 is one of my favorites off the tracklist. I think a lot of the rappers you cite are far closer than you make it, or outright wrong, however. I'm no denzel curry superfan, but gunna, don toliver, uzi, yeat, and future most certainly do not wipe him down, and the only ones you listed who truly would swat him like a fly are travis, cole, dot, and jid. Funnier is that you say all of these people wipe him in their current states! Ye shouldn't even be in question. Carti is laughable. I'm sorry, it's just a horrendous take and hiding behind "all of his fans are bums" is the biggest cope snort I've seen in a while.
How is saying Drake shouldn’t be in the GOAT conversation a bad take? He is nowhere near the all time greats like Nas, Jay Z, Pac, Big, Ghostface, Kendrick, Em, Rakim, G Rap, Doom etc
Commercial success Denzel will never touch Drake, but Denzel been in my top 3 since about 4 years ago and I personally like his music a lot more. I 100% agree w him being better than Drake.
hell no. wtf is this opinion. Drake is way better than denzel. Denzel did not make a nothing was the same, take care, IYRTITL. views, and even dark lane demo tapes. Denzel will never reach the better status than drake so dont say he is better just keep it at you like it more
@@CrispyCruchies they’re commercially bigger but denzel has consistently drop great albums after great albums, drake has dropped some, if not the worst material in hip hop. Don’t get me wrong I love drake but if denzel was more popular u wouldn’t be sucking drakes dick this hard
@@xxshineattackxx1387 Hello no wtf are you saying. Just because denzel is doing good now doesnt mean he is anywhere close to drake. Drake is so much better of a rapper and a musician. Stop telling yourself these stupid lies
The Denzel and Drake one isn't bad at all, Zel is a way better rapper technically, a more consistent discography with albums just as good or better than Drake's best ones and not a single one worse than any solo album by Drake since IYRTITL
@embermist3910 i agree w the producer part, but lets call a spade a spade. kanye has used writers (including drake) but gets no flack. credited or not doesnt make a difference you didnt write those rhymes. double standard fs and i like both artists
@@ayojstfu22 Drake never had a ghostwriter. He always credits everyone. That was just some dumb accusation that was made years ago. I swear everytime Drake makes a "Good album" to y'all immediately assume he has a ghostwriter. He has great pen and has wrote for A LOT of other rappers.
yea, but not for Drake standards (a rapper that his fans push him as a "goat" rapper lol). For me that album came out as a damage control, ain't nothing new nor interesting that hasn't already beem made (by both him and the rest of the mainstream), basically what he did was analyse what's the hottest sound currently, pick a ticket to not be too sus (21 Savage) and ride the wave. Smart but not impressive
you can't say Denzel is better than Drake when Drake's been on top of the rap industry for a decade plus, drake might not be a better technical rapper but he is definitely legendary status and one of the Big 3 of the 2010's
The drake debate is the same to me as when people say Tom Brady is the best athlete of all time. Tom Brady is as athletic as the average joe. Drake raps like and average rapper. Drake is incredibly popular and gets the most streams. He is by no means one of the best rapper ever. He is polarizing though
@Koi No Yeezus The only difference is that in football numbers and rings are the most important things while for rappers numbers shouldn't mean anything on conversations for the best ever
@Koi No Yeezus Of course rings are a team stat and just winning one requires a lot of luck but for being the greatest ever i think that has some value, if it was just the best ever then guys with more skill, that are more athletic and have better seasons can be in the conversation like Rodgers, Manning, Marino or Mahomes
Many people hate mainstream rappers (like Lil Baby, Gunna, Lil Durk, Polo G…). But nobody talk about how smart some rappers are. Because they know when and what to drop.
I agree with the drake takes, I'll give drake credit where he deserves his impact is huge and he does crazy numbers, but to put him in a top ten just off of pure rap skill is crazy to say if it weren't for his popularity and numbers he's not good, also put him in a room with other rappers he's the first one getting wiped out
as a pure rapper, of course there are better but then y'all have to do the same with kanye and carti and future and yachti and so many other. If your making a top 10 pure rappers it would be like nas and Mf doom but for the artists who just makes better rap songs or songs in general, I don't think many people can beat drake. People gotta stop hating on him and maybe just go listen to the albums. People hate on the big rappers to valide why their favourite rapper is good but why can't we just show love all around. Drake had like 4-5 classic albums and now at his peek in terms of streams, people decide to hate?
@@natem2461 idk about 4-5 classics dawg, maybe two. And the only reason it's probably viable for Kanye to be in a goat conversation is bc Kanye yes makes popular music, but also has an incredible discography, he ACTUALLY probably has 4-5 classics lol, and not to mention he's a really good rapper and producer unlike Drake. Drake is one of the goat pop artists, but not rappers man, as far as the rap game goes he ain't even close to being in the conversation for the goat realistically.
I mean the thing about Drake that's always bothered me is that his music is designed to have the largest most broad appeal imaginable.You're designing something that sells well while sort of blunting the sharpness of the record. I think that you can't really have the "fallen off" take if you think 3k or Eminem is up there because Idleworld and Revival are dips in quality as well, but with Drake, if we're saying that his peak is IYRTITL or Take Care, those are solid albums, and often really fun albums, but they aren't exactly to the caliber of an Aquemini, ATLiens, or Stankonia. Drake has sales and longevity, but if you are going to be "the greatest" you need a top 10 project or something in the vicinity. Nas has one, Kendrick has two. Lauren Hill arguably has two (I will die on the hill that The Score is one of the best projects ever). Outkast potentially even has 3 in that conversation. I'm sorry, but I really don't think the peak is there. I think in that regard, I'd maybe even put Lupe in a conversation like this before Drake, but that is just taste I guess.
For me the drake and denzel one is not even a hot take. I get that drake has more streams and a bigger impact in the genre but denzel's discog is simply way better. It is much more consistent and i would even argue that it has higher highs. In my opinion Ta13oo and Melt my Eyez are better than any drake album and imperial is also arguable.
Jay Z in metrics is one of the most complete rappers ever. He had 3 undeniable classic albums( at least) He is the fourth higest selling rapper He is a top tier lyristist. Most 1 albums (14) over the span of 3 decades Introduce big names to the game And even today gets about 36 million spotify monthly listener's. ( more than even j cole, who is his prime) Jay might not be number 1 but say he is not top 5 is comically stupid
You can't just look at numbers, if you are going to do it, you basically say "Drake is the best rapper ever" Jay stole his rhymes just like Drake and he never was the best rapper in any year. He's incredibly overrated
the amount of people that say Jay-Z is overrated is ridiculous. why do people hate on this man? how? when his albums finally came to Spotify, I had to do a FB post and had people getting into arguments once someone mentioned Jay-Z being overrated
There was a guy a while back who posted a video explaining how Jay Z was never the hottest in the game. Which tbf, the video was true, but people started taking that and using it to say that he's overrated. The thing is that he was never the hottest, but being the 2nd hottest for 4/5+ years is better than being the hottest for 1
Earl also has a really good singing voice, just a different vibe than Frank and Tyler. Listen to his feature on the most recent Jean Dawson album. Earl could probably make a post punk album and make it good
@@theboi5584 we’re currently in like the 1980s rn and we normally get things that made an impact on history and guess they both made history with their music
so I see a lot of talk of “Denzel better than drake” and “drake was sooo much better than Denzel” and I’ll just say… there is a crazy amount of DJ Khaled around here. We all saw what happened with Khaled and Tyler, right? we saw Khaled get what on, and his ego deflate at an instant when he didn’t win that Grammy, when he got passed on the charts by Igor, a “non-traditional” album. Everyone is so focused on numbers, and the genuinely believe that numbers make artists “good”. I saw someone say that Denzel is not a better artist than Drake. to that person: let’s keep it a buck. If Drake was a better artist, he would hear the absolute ASS that “he made” with CLB and HNVM, and would have reworked nearly every song on both projects. Good artists are able to create conceptual art, and cohesive art. Denzel’s MMESYF encapsulates everything about the 90s instrumentally, but encapsulates the 2010s and upcoming 2020s lyrically, flow wise, symbolically, and with his cadences. he. is. better. let’s all get out of middle school and start admitting that those with genuine talent (Denzel, JID, Earl, Aminé, Isaiah Rashad) are all miles ahead of the ones who know that they will still make shit loads of money by farting into a mic, submitting it, and then going to do nothing else because they can’t bother themselves to put the effort in to make themselves respectable again.
I 110% agree with the mainstream take, mainstream rap us fucking trash. Nobody in mainstream (that's new) is captivating or doing anything interesting or pushing the game
As someone who isn't either a Drake fan or hater, I just see Drake like a normal mainstream artist that can make good music, it has bad songs but he knows how to make good songs go viral, I feel like in terms of marketing and business he's a genius, like he KNOWS what will make people talk about him and he even set trends and influenced a ton of today's music... But with that said, to me the GOAT conversation it's almost like a balance, because you have "Influence" and "Impact", but there's also "Lyrics", "Creativity", "Versatility", "Flow", "Artistry", "Composition", "Consistency" and "Longevity" and in one hand yeah Drake has a huge impact & influence like Eminem, 2Pac, Jay-Z or Lil Wayne but in the other hand Drake can't rap better than them, and if we talk more about Creativity and Artistry then you have artists like Kendrick, Andre 3K, MF DOOM, Nas, etc... which they made music more conceptual, creative and clever. Now I understand why people like Drake's music, he made dope songs and he can still make good songs when he wants to, but he doesn't have the same level of talent as other artists, for example Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber have some of the biggest songs on streaming history, Does that means they're the GOAT singers? No, they made dope songs but there's MANY singers that sing and create better projects than them.
Drake takes were pretty valid, bro should not be in consideration for the goat, his quality of writing lacks significantly compared to other greats, plus he has a massive lack of conceptual work and other forms of high writing
Survival, Diplomatic Immunity, Middle of the Ocean, Tuscan Leather, The Ride. Y’all hear mainstream Drizzy and don’t respect his pen, do y’all research !!
See? And y'all still want to put him at a goat MC conversation lol bro might be THE Goat Pop-rapper, but he's not one of the goat Mcee's. There are literally 100 Mc's better than him in the US alone with better skillsets and discographies. Fuck numbers because if he was and independent artist since 'So Far Gone', most of y'all would never hear about him
1. Yes absolutely. It's not even close 2. Yes. Sizes doesn't equal talent 3. Haven't heard either of those so I can't say 4. It's good, but it's definitely not top 10 5. Absolutely not. He's not someone who you can take that seriously 6. No. Yeat is whack as fuck 7. Earl is talented but he never quite did it for me. Regardless though, you've got Frank Ocean and Tyler anyway who are undeniably better. 8. Haven't heard so I can't speak on it. If I had to guess though I'd imagine the Fantano score inflated it a little 9. I agree with Lou, 90% seems a little high, but overall yes 10. Jay-Z seems to be getting shit on for no reason as of recent. This isn't a hot take, and it sure as hell isn't a good take.
I'm not saying that Denzel is better than Drake. But Denzel hasn't dropped a bad album yet. I love Drake, and I think the only "Bad" album he's ever dropped is CLB. I even like Honestly Nevermind more than most people. But until Denzel misses on an album, you could argue that he has a better overall discography
Denzel definitely has better music then drake even old drake Denzel was more consistent from imperial to mmesyf He has better lyrics flows honestly he’s just better
Denzel is/has been better than drake. Ant and lu talking numbers but no where did it say denzel is more popular. By that logic drake beats doom, black thought, kendrick, etc
Many of the Jay-Z haters come from the newer generation and I think it’s because they mostly see him as the Story of OJ guy and how he was mostly overshadowed by his features in the BP3. Not many young people have heard any of his albums from his 7 year run.
I enjoy some Drake like many people do, but maybe the reason why so many people have 'awful Drake takes' and are "shitting on him" is because NFR overrates and glazes him
First of all, RIP to 2pac and respect for or all he did for the black community and fight against corruption. But Biggie is easily the more skilled rapper, storyteller and artistic genius. As a matter of fact, I would go as to say that 2pac didn't even compare to the wordplay like the giants of Nas and Tribe. He is given much more credit than he deserves purely as a rapper because he was all around a super successful human at such a young age.
Also, it's important to mention that 2pac has unpublished works of poetry that would be considered genius level if they were mainstream today. But that doesn't do anything for his rap career.
I rarely share my hot takes on any social media platform . However this is one take that I have had for quite some time now. I would say that Kendrick Lamar is… Read more
The only hot take I can have is that I think gkmc is better than tpab it’s lot easier to listen to and has a much more consistent concept and replay ability
Drake is the definition of mid. Even his best couple of albums are only just about 8/10's. Hasn't dropped a good project since 2015. In that time he's also dropped some absolute 1/10's. Still gets the streams because people are sheep and listen to whatever is popular. Dude isn't close to the debate for GOAT.
RIP LOVE being "cringey" is a stupid take when giving without warning points for originality the idea of 2 people cheating on each other and it being talked about is smart sorry he didn't go all "we cry together" to sacrifice the quality of the song but the production is amazing and the concept is well done especially if the song is about a real thing. (also mr right nows hook is still better than drakes hook on rich flex)
It blows my mind how these two guys (that i very much like ! ) don't see how Drake is so low in the rankings of hip-hop. He's a superstar, a rap hitmachine, absolutely, but that doesn't mean much when MUSIC is inthe conversation ! The Beatles have maany many hits, but that's not what makes them one of the best of all time, it's the innovation, the avant-gatde, the vision they had from 1966 to 1969 ! It blows my mind how these two don't get that...
1:50 okay so if we’re gonna say this is an essential quality of being the goat then we by definition have to take Jay, Nas, Wayne and Em out of the goat convo. Jay post Black Album dropped nothing by decent-mid albums until he did 4:44, Nas had a clear dry spell between Stillmatic/God’s Son and the King’s Disease series (with the exception of Life is Good imo), Wayne fell off hard for at least 5 years before Carter 5 and Em hasn’t dropped a high quality project imo since Bad Meet Evil and not a high quality solo project since Eminem Show Drake is an easy target but this argument is irrelevant
@@thomo2127 I Never Liked You is peak Future. The most versatile he’s been in a while and got so many bangers. Such a cinematic trap sound that I just love. It beats out every other Future album for me
i feel like people treat jay z like drake too much, the difference is i think jay z deserves all the hype he gets (no offense to drake but man isnt the number 2 rapper all time) like even though a lot of people say BP3 is week i think the entire BP series slaps hard, not to mention his other great albums and the fact he can still drop good songs today (something you cant say bout a lot of ogs) plus the man has so many iconic songs and tracks that id argue he defines ny music (although i think pac nas and biggie are better id argue none have the amount of anthems jay z does)
I’m not a huge Drake hater, but I agree with the GOAT take. Artists like Andre, Kendrick, and Nas have way more consistent discographies and are just overall better rappers. I respect his influence and how big he is as an artist, but in no way is he a GOAT
New em is overhated. His newer projects obviously aren't on par with a mmlp or tes but not much is. But when listening to kamikaze and mtbmb, there are the occasional misses, but overall the penmanship is out of this world. There aren't many sing for the moments on the albums for example but they're not storytelling albums. They're just bar after bar that make you wonder how anyone could think of a way to interconnect everything he's saying
@@Python-xs2iv Huge em fan, and I agree that it's overhated. But I don't ever find myself returning to any of these albums other than Revival for Walk on Water, River, Castle, Arose, etc. Hope he finds himself.
Kanye should be considered in more top 10 lists based purely on impact. He completely pivoted the rap genre, and has released some of the hardest hitting tracks of all. Not to mention he has decent rapping capability as well.
@Adam Beckner idk I remember growing up a lot of people despised Kanye even before he said that anti-semetic shit. Maybe it was just where I grew up🤷♂️
Bro literally everyone says he’s the GOAT… only grandpas will say “2Pac and Biggie better” And they’re wrong. He’s the greatest in hip hop, he’s not a decent rapper. He’s the BEST Rapper. He’s a decent lyricist. But his voice, flow, content and punch lines is better than anyone so it makes him the best. Which is why he’s outdone Wu Tang members, Jay Z, Kendrick, Pusha and Nas in songs. On top of having the best hip hop album, MBDTF and the greatest discog. Gorgeous New God Flow Clique NMPILA We Major And there’s many more songs where this is the case.
@@Djhiphop1000000000fax, his lyricism is getting underrated at this point because people only focus on his production & artistic strengths outside of rapping
the second take is such an unfair one. while yes drakes not making any take cares anymore, he’s still mostly releasing quality work, and talent wise he’s only improved. he dropped middle of the ocean which is one of his career performances. you’re taking so much away from drakes early career and his impact is undeniable. and if we’re using that argument then should hov even be in the goat convo because of his mediocre run from the late 00s early 10s?
rappers Hov, em and nas have had a bit of a downfall but their peaks were something that rappers like drake dream of achieving. Drake is more of a commercrial artist
I haven't even watched 30 seconds of the video and the comments look like Baghdad. Mention Jay-Z and Drake and everyone loses their minds, good Lord. I don't like either of them but I respect their achievements. I think they both have fundamental issues to their character and their legacies but their music resonates with millions, even if only as filler or background music. They had the skill/acumen to make their music broadly appealing despite their flaws and they've done it consistently enough to be relevant in many people's lives. They both could retire and live comfortably they refuse and continue to release well into their seniority. I don't like them but I respect them.
@@yunahr4120 Like I said, I have issues with all of their CHARACTERS. All of their public personas are just bizarre and warped by their fanbase. But I respect the impact they left on music.
Love the fact that Drake fans only love to bring "impact", sales and hits but never bring his artistry/skillset lol. 1st, his catalog is weak amongst his peers, no classic album (a top 10 goat rap album contender), got vividly exposed for benefiting from ghostwriting, he shamelessly bites off upcoming rappers, his rapping skillset is quite limited (Never tells stories, super monotone). Bro might be the goat pop-rapper, but not one of the goat MC's
SM2 overall quality and highlights beat any of his previous projects IMO. Rapping performances are much better and more consistent that those on sm1 or even without warning. Production is almost flawless, excluding mr right now and rip love.
I don’t think that jay z ever had a long period of being completely dominant and just being “the man” in hip hop like a lot of the other goats. That being said, saying he isn’t top 10 is crazy, should definitely be at least top 5 in everyone’s list
Love all the JPEG love the channel has been getting. I think he has the most consistently amazing discog in the genre currently. He literally cannot miss. Veteran, AMHAC, EP1, EP2, LP! are all amazing
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I need Fantano to react to those Drake takes 🤣🤣
Forreal, saying Denzel > Drake or Drake not being a GOAT is an insane take just because of Drake's numbers and impact are the same type of arguments people use to dismiss people like MF DOOM being above Drake/Future/etc. or generally being one of the GOAT rappers. It's goofy reasoning, and I was surprised to see the NFR boys give credence to it. I'm not saying that either of the two Drake takes are inarguable, but there's strong arguments for them.
fantano would eat them up
I hate when people use "influence" and "impact on the genre" as their only argument for why someone is a GOAT. If we give ignore Drake's music and call him great just because of his impact, then we might as well have Soulja Boy in every top 25 list.
I resonate with this somewhat, the DR is real.
I mean influence IS a factor, but your right it’s absolutely not the only factor.
Exactly, you need to have more then just “impact”, someone like Kendrick has the impact, critical acclaim, skill, and longevity. All drake has is impact, if you’re going based of that alone you may as well out 50 cent or t pain in your top 10 of all time.
Saying Drake is the Hip Hop GOAT is like saying Nickleback is the GOAT rock band. Drake’s discography is nowhere near good enough to be considered the GOAT, he’s just popular. And if you want to talk about influence, even then, I think Kanye is far more influential than Drake.
@@theboi5584 yes
Denzel Curry & I are the same age (28) and he been in the game 10 years now and he's already got an insane catalog. IMO he's everything a modern young rapper under 30 should be and deserves the marketing push.
denzel currys mixtapes are also dope af imo
Facts
Been in the game 10 years and still can't name 1 of his songs. Music critics will swear he's good and yet I never hear anyone bring that bums name up or play a single song of his. Carti wipes him down
Travis wipes him down
Savage wipes him down
Gunna wipes him down
J fold wipes him down
Don toliver wipes him down
Uzi wipes him down
Yeat wipes him down
Tyler wipes him down
Future wipes him down
Ye wipes him down
Dot wipes him down
JID wipes him down
Etc... could keep going to 100 rappers that wash him rn he's a bum so are his fans
@@sabus1265 if you haven't listened, he's definitely worth it! I really do recommend melt my eyez see your future if you like more conscious rapping. Melt Session #1 is one of my favorites off the tracklist.
I think a lot of the rappers you cite are far closer than you make it, or outright wrong, however. I'm no denzel curry superfan, but gunna, don toliver, uzi, yeat, and future most certainly do not wipe him down, and the only ones you listed who truly would swat him like a fly are travis, cole, dot, and jid.
Funnier is that you say all of these people wipe him in their current states! Ye shouldn't even be in question. Carti is laughable. I'm sorry, it's just a horrendous take and hiding behind "all of his fans are bums" is the biggest cope snort I've seen in a while.
How is saying Drake shouldn’t be in the GOAT conversation a bad take? He is nowhere near the all time greats like Nas, Jay Z, Pac, Big, Ghostface, Kendrick, Em, Rakim, G Rap, Doom etc
That’s facts Maine.
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🤡 most ppl disagree buddy
drake is the goat
@@Domdoenbaby in sales only
Commercial success Denzel will never touch Drake, but Denzel been in my top 3 since about 4 years ago and I personally like his music a lot more. I 100% agree w him being better than Drake.
hell no. wtf is this opinion. Drake is way better than denzel. Denzel did not make a nothing was the same, take care, IYRTITL. views, and even dark lane demo tapes. Denzel will never reach the better status than drake so dont say he is better just keep it at you like it more
@@CrispyCruchies they’re commercially bigger but denzel has consistently drop great albums after great albums, drake has dropped some, if not the worst material in hip hop. Don’t get me wrong I love drake but if denzel was more popular u wouldn’t be sucking drakes dick this hard
@Koi No Yeezus i agree man. I just can’t get into drake. i like some songs but i like denzel more
@Koi No Yeezus i agree man. I just can’t get into drake. i like some songs but i like denzel more
@Koi No Yeezus bro how can melt my eyes be better than nothing was the same or even iyrtitl
Denzel better rapper, better musician, better than almost everything drake has except numbers
That’s the most important thing you donut 😂
@@Esias24 not at all
Denzel doesn’t have better bars then drake and Yes Bars matter if you did not know
@@Stefan-104 denzel a way way better spitter than drake💀💀💀
@@xxshineattackxx1387 Hello no wtf are you saying. Just because denzel is doing good now doesnt mean he is anywhere close to drake. Drake is so much better of a rapper and a musician. Stop telling yourself these stupid lies
The Denzel and Drake one isn't bad at all, Zel is a way better rapper technically, a more consistent discography with albums just as good or better than Drake's best ones and not a single one worse than any solo album by Drake since IYRTITL
The most level-headed and well-reasoned argument in favor of Denzel. Please TH-cam gods, promote this to the top.
ur guys drake bias is insane, Drakes music quality has gotten worse while denzels has gotten better.
also the sales take is bullshit bc weve seen bad songs sell well bc of good promotion
dont forget drake has a ghost writer
@@ayojstfu22if drake wrote for kanye multiple times what does that make kanye?
@embermist3910 i agree w the producer part, but lets call a spade a spade. kanye has used writers (including drake) but gets no flack. credited or not doesnt make a difference you didnt write those rhymes. double standard fs and i like both artists
@@ayojstfu22 Drake never had a ghostwriter. He always credits everyone. That was just some dumb accusation that was made years ago. I swear everytime Drake makes a "Good album" to y'all immediately assume he has a ghostwriter. He has great pen and has wrote for A LOT of other rappers.
That Kids See Ghosts take is rough, that album slaps from beginning to end on all 7 tracks.
Arguably Kanye's best produced album.
@@lukaztec982bro that take is wild but its def in top 5 kanye produced albums
@@lukaztec982 you could also argue that Jesus is king is his best produced album
@@imgonnatellmom3245 im gonna tell your mom you just Said that…..
@@gongster5821 I said its arguable, not fs but definitely up there.
the "Drake the type of guy" memes really doing him damage
Nah just the music he’s been putting out recently been doing damage
@@zacmcloughlin3470 Her loss is a good album though
@@seankohoi1951 1 decent album in 8 years simply isn’t good enough for people to view him in the same light compared to 2009-2015
yea, but not for Drake standards (a rapper that his fans push him as a "goat" rapper lol). For me that album came out as a damage control, ain't nothing new nor interesting that hasn't already beem made (by both him and the rest of the mainstream), basically what he did was analyse what's the hottest sound currently, pick a ticket to not be too sus (21 Savage) and ride the wave. Smart but not impressive
@@zacmcloughlin3470 not sure i'd say 8 years is recently
There are 10 rappers I like listening to more than jay z but his impact and legacy definitely get him into the top 10
I don't think the Denzel one in the thumbnail is that wild of a take, I agree 1000%, Denzel is a better rapper than Drake and it is not close.
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funny joke
Maybe skill and lyrically wise but drake has been the most successful rapper for over a decade now
you can't say Denzel is better than Drake when Drake's been on top of the rap industry for a decade plus, drake might not be a better technical rapper but he is definitely legendary status and one of the Big 3 of the 2010's
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Sheeesh the war between drake fans and haters are taking place by the comment.🍿🍿
Definitely a controversial one
The drake debate is the same to me as when people say Tom Brady is the best athlete of all time. Tom Brady is as athletic as the average joe. Drake raps like and average rapper. Drake is incredibly popular and gets the most streams. He is by no means one of the best rapper ever. He is polarizing though
Brother there is so much more to athleticism than just running and jumping
@Koi No Yeezus most talented =/= best. I’m by no means a Brady fan but he’s by far the best and it’s not even a discussion
@@Flamerunner451 Hes definitely the best qb or even football player
@Koi No Yeezus The only difference is that in football numbers and rings are the most important things while for rappers numbers shouldn't mean anything on conversations for the best ever
@Koi No Yeezus Of course rings are a team stat and just winning one requires a lot of luck but for being the greatest ever i think that has some value, if it was just the best ever then guys with more skill, that are more athletic and have better seasons can be in the conversation like Rodgers, Manning, Marino or Mahomes
Many people hate mainstream rappers (like Lil Baby, Gunna, Lil Durk, Polo G…). But nobody talk about how smart some rappers are. Because they know when and what to drop.
Denzel take is true, i think his classics are better then drake
No
The drake hate is crazy, for me IYRTITL NWTS and Take Care >> TA13OO MMESYF etc
@Koi No Yeezus no drake the goat
true shit man
@Koi No Yeezus you can’t deny that Nothing Was The Same smacks any Denzel album. This is coming from a MMESYF-lover btw.
I agree with the drake takes, I'll give drake credit where he deserves his impact is huge and he does crazy numbers, but to put him in a top ten just off of pure rap skill is crazy to say if it weren't for his popularity and numbers he's not good, also put him in a room with other rappers he's the first one getting wiped out
Yeah this is all facts.
100 million percent
Okay. LOL
as a pure rapper, of course there are better but then y'all have to do the same with kanye and carti and future and yachti and so many other. If your making a top 10 pure rappers it would be like nas and Mf doom but for the artists who just makes better rap songs or songs in general, I don't think many people can beat drake. People gotta stop hating on him and maybe just go listen to the albums. People hate on the big rappers to valide why their favourite rapper is good but why can't we just show love all around. Drake had like 4-5 classic albums and now at his peek in terms of streams, people decide to hate?
@@natem2461 idk about 4-5 classics dawg, maybe two. And the only reason it's probably viable for Kanye to be in a goat conversation is bc Kanye yes makes popular music, but also has an incredible discography, he ACTUALLY probably has 4-5 classics lol, and not to mention he's a really good rapper and producer unlike Drake. Drake is one of the goat pop artists, but not rappers man, as far as the rap game goes he ain't even close to being in the conversation for the goat realistically.
I mean the thing about Drake that's always bothered me is that his music is designed to have the largest most broad appeal imaginable.You're designing something that sells well while sort of blunting the sharpness of the record. I think that you can't really have the "fallen off" take if you think 3k or Eminem is up there because Idleworld and Revival are dips in quality as well, but with Drake, if we're saying that his peak is IYRTITL or Take Care, those are solid albums, and often really fun albums, but they aren't exactly to the caliber of an Aquemini, ATLiens, or Stankonia. Drake has sales and longevity, but if you are going to be "the greatest" you need a top 10 project or something in the vicinity. Nas has one, Kendrick has two. Lauren Hill arguably has two (I will die on the hill that The Score is one of the best projects ever). Outkast potentially even has 3 in that conversation. I'm sorry, but I really don't think the peak is there. I think in that regard, I'd maybe even put Lupe in a conversation like this before Drake, but that is just taste I guess.
For me the drake and denzel one is not even a hot take. I get that drake has more streams and a bigger impact in the genre but denzel's discog is simply way better. It is much more consistent and i would even argue that it has higher highs. In my opinion Ta13oo and Melt my Eyez are better than any drake album and imperial is also arguable.
If we don't talk about numbers or influence but pure music quality, Denzel's catalogue is better than Drake's
Cap
Numbers came because the music is fire
No it aint
@@emmanueltraapcage3667 justin beiber and ed sheeran the best musical artists of all time?
@@Readraid_ Arguably*
Jay Z in metrics is one of the most complete rappers ever.
He had 3 undeniable classic albums( at least)
He is the fourth higest selling rapper
He is a top tier lyristist.
Most 1 albums (14) over the span of 3 decades
Introduce big names to the game
And even today gets about 36 million spotify monthly listener's. ( more than even j cole, who is his prime)
Jay might not be number 1 but say he is not top 5 is comically stupid
true
You can't just look at numbers, if you are going to do it, you basically say "Drake is the best rapper ever"
Jay stole his rhymes just like Drake and he never was the best rapper in any year. He's incredibly overrated
@@ScarredCore1 hes not just looking at the numbers tho.
@@ScarredCore1 i feel sometimes jay zs flows are weak, but he has some classics and his wordplay is some of the greatest of all time.
@@aaronuthayakumar1967 that's fair
the amount of people that say Jay-Z is overrated is ridiculous. why do people hate on this man? how? when his albums finally came to Spotify, I had to do a FB post and had people getting into arguments once someone mentioned Jay-Z being overrated
There was a guy a while back who posted a video explaining how Jay Z was never the hottest in the game. Which tbf, the video was true, but people started taking that and using it to say that he's overrated. The thing is that he was never the hottest, but being the 2nd hottest for 4/5+ years is better than being the hottest for 1
overrated doesnt mean bad
The Denzel take is so valid. Literally all of his albums besides 32 Zel is better than any Drake album
Lowkey the LP! Take is really valid
Hot take: Faces by Mac Miller is a top 15 Rap Project of All time
Amazing mixtape🔥
Huge W
what are the other 14
@@NFRPodcast yes
That and Swimming are Mac’s best projects imo. Both are absolutely goated.
Where is the podcast? Was really looking forward to it
Denzel take is a big W
Everyone seems to agree😂
The first take is such a W
Jay-Z gets way too much hate
The Denzel take is based af
no it’s not. y’all just love to hate drake.
@@drakedickrider we hate Drake for a reason, it's because his music has the personality of microwaved pizza.
Nah
@@extraterrestrial8888 thank u for that informative explanation 🙏😘
Drake clears Denzel’s discography with NWTS ALONE. Not to mention Take Care, IYRTITL, and Views
GangStarr is the best hip hop duo of all time - HOT TAKE
These hot takes are like the Sahara desert
Drake is so overrated, he’s great yes, but if u ever say he’s a goat then that’s just wrong
Depends what you’re basing it on. He is the goat of sales, hits & impact, that’s not really debatable.
Tons of amazing songs to listen to casually to say he's overated lmao
overrated in what sense? he’s outrapped jay-z, cole, and kendrick on their collabs
@@NightOwlJa in what world did he ever outrap kendrick lmao
@@NightOwlJa "this take was brought to you by rap caviar"
The Denzel guy was high-key cooking
Denzel has been putting out better music than Drake for years now.
For a few years arguably
The Kids See Ghosts take I lowkey understand. Although I do understand the importance of it I don’t really enjoy it from a musical standpoint
yep same
Denzel stocks goin up, Drake stocks goin down
Love to see it
Brainless comment
Not in the real world.
Debatable!
@@NFRPodcast Drake's meat must taste real good for y'all to keep sucking 😂
LETS GO!
Thanks for putting my hot take in this video guys! Keep up the amazing videos, I love them ❤
Earl also has a really good singing voice, just a different vibe than Frank and Tyler. Listen to his feature on the most recent Jean Dawson album. Earl could probably make a post punk album and make it good
So funny story but I actually have to write a term paper on both Kendrick Lamar and Eminem for a U.S history class
I see this as a win
@@theboi5584 massive W, I get a grade to basically listen to my 2 favorite artists
@@alexd6371idk how it plays into a U.S. history class but w nonetheless
My condolences 🙏
@@theboi5584 we’re currently in like the 1980s rn and we normally get things that made an impact on history and guess they both made history with their music
so I see a lot of talk of “Denzel better than drake” and “drake was sooo much better than Denzel” and I’ll just say…
there is a crazy amount of DJ Khaled around here. We all saw what happened with Khaled and Tyler, right? we saw Khaled get what on, and his ego deflate at an instant when he didn’t win that Grammy, when he got passed on the charts by Igor, a “non-traditional” album. Everyone is so focused on numbers, and the genuinely believe that numbers make artists “good”. I saw someone say that Denzel is not a better artist than Drake. to that person: let’s keep it a buck. If Drake was a better artist, he would hear the absolute ASS that “he made” with CLB and HNVM, and would have reworked nearly every song on both projects.
Good artists are able to create conceptual art, and cohesive art. Denzel’s MMESYF encapsulates everything about the 90s instrumentally, but encapsulates the 2010s and upcoming 2020s lyrically, flow wise, symbolically, and with his cadences. he. is. better. let’s all get out of middle school and start admitting that those with genuine talent (Denzel, JID, Earl, Aminé, Isaiah Rashad) are all miles ahead of the ones who know that they will still make shit loads of money by farting into a mic, submitting it, and then going to do nothing else because they can’t bother themselves to put the effort in to make themselves respectable again.
Best comment I've seen
I 110% agree with the mainstream take, mainstream rap us fucking trash. Nobody in mainstream (that's new) is captivating or doing anything interesting or pushing the game
As someone who isn't either a Drake fan or hater, I just see Drake like a normal mainstream artist that can make good music, it has bad songs but he knows how to make good songs go viral, I feel like in terms of marketing and business he's a genius, like he KNOWS what will make people talk about him and he even set trends and influenced a ton of today's music...
But with that said, to me the GOAT conversation it's almost like a balance, because you have "Influence" and "Impact", but there's also "Lyrics", "Creativity", "Versatility", "Flow", "Artistry", "Composition", "Consistency" and "Longevity" and in one hand yeah Drake has a huge impact & influence like Eminem, 2Pac, Jay-Z or Lil Wayne but in the other hand Drake can't rap better than them, and if we talk more about Creativity and Artistry then you have artists like Kendrick, Andre 3K, MF DOOM, Nas, etc... which they made music more conceptual, creative and clever.
Now I understand why people like Drake's music, he made dope songs and he can still make good songs when he wants to, but he doesn't have the same level of talent as other artists, for example Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber have some of the biggest songs on streaming history, Does that means they're the GOAT singers? No, they made dope songs but there's MANY singers that sing and create better projects than them.
Top 10 rapper
Nas
Biggie
Kendrick Lamar
Jay-Z
Eminem
2PAC
Ghost face
Andre3000
Black Thought
MF Doom
HB: Lil Wayne, Lauryn Hill, Method man and Raekwon
This is a great list
I'd switch a few rappers around but overall an amazing list.
Solid list
Drake takes were pretty valid, bro should not be in consideration for the goat, his quality of writing lacks significantly compared to other greats, plus he has a massive lack of conceptual work and other forms of high writing
Survival, Diplomatic Immunity, Middle of the Ocean, Tuscan Leather, The Ride. Y’all hear mainstream Drizzy and don’t respect his pen, do y’all research !!
@@YJL186 that’s cuz it’s not a rap album… I don’t even like the album but if u going into for rap ur gonna be disappointed
See? And y'all still want to put him at a goat MC conversation lol
bro might be THE Goat Pop-rapper, but he's not one of the goat Mcee's. There are literally 100 Mc's better than him in the US alone with better skillsets and discographies. Fuck numbers because if he was and independent artist since 'So Far Gone', most of y'all would never hear about him
@@YJL186 that’s fair, her loss was almost a return to form imo. And CLB was ok, def not his best but it don’t deserve the hate it gets either
im not a huge yeat lover but i definitely understand the sound and the vision and i feel like ant represents this well in the vid
1. Yes absolutely. It's not even close
2. Yes. Sizes doesn't equal talent
3. Haven't heard either of those so I can't say
4. It's good, but it's definitely not top 10
5. Absolutely not. He's not someone who you can take that seriously
6. No. Yeat is whack as fuck
7. Earl is talented but he never quite did it for me. Regardless though, you've got Frank Ocean and Tyler anyway who are undeniably better.
8. Haven't heard so I can't speak on it. If I had to guess though I'd imagine the Fantano score inflated it a little
9. I agree with Lou, 90% seems a little high, but overall yes
10. Jay-Z seems to be getting shit on for no reason as of recent. This isn't a hot take, and it sure as hell isn't a good take.
I'm not saying that Denzel is better than Drake. But Denzel hasn't dropped a bad album yet. I love Drake, and I think the only "Bad" album he's ever dropped is CLB. I even like Honestly Nevermind more than most people. But until Denzel misses on an album, you could argue that he has a better overall discography
Denzel definitely has better music then drake even old drake Denzel was more consistent from imperial to mmesyf He has better lyrics flows honestly he’s just better
Asap Rocky’s discography is top 10 oat.
Terrible take
not even top 50
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Delete your account.
testing mid
Imo you can't compare Denzel to drake. They do two totally different sub genres.
Love the vids nfr is the best
You guys are the true 🐐’s
Denzel is/has been better than drake. Ant and lu talking numbers but no where did it say denzel is more popular. By that logic drake beats doom, black thought, kendrick, etc
Many of the Jay-Z haters come from the newer generation and I think it’s because they mostly see him as the Story of OJ guy and how he was mostly overshadowed by his features in the BP3. Not many young people have heard any of his albums from his 7 year run.
Jay Z is mature rapper. He is very unrelatable to the younger crowd.
@@styleformen7535 yea but also he’s become a bit overrated.. that Gods Did verse was kinda boring fr
@@hueysoprano that's fair
His run from 2005 to 2013 was incredibly underwhelming lol
@@arseeoliveira6934 American Gangster and his feature run were the only notable things coming from that era.
Love the Infamous top 10 love
The lack of mentions for JID when you're talking about the best of the current rappers is insane to me. He's streets ahead of everyone right now
finally someone mentioned
Even after the forever story he still underrated You would expect more people thinking on him for the future of the genree
I enjoy some Drake like many people do, but maybe the reason why so many people have 'awful Drake takes' and are "shitting on him" is because NFR overrates and glazes him
First of all, RIP to 2pac and respect for or all he did for the black community and fight against corruption. But Biggie is easily the more skilled rapper, storyteller and artistic genius. As a matter of fact, I would go as to say that 2pac didn't even compare to the wordplay like the giants of Nas and Tribe. He is given much more credit than he deserves purely as a rapper because he was all around a super successful human at such a young age.
Also, it's important to mention that 2pac has unpublished works of poetry that would be considered genius level if they were mainstream today. But that doesn't do anything for his rap career.
I rarely share my hot takes on any social media platform . However this is one take that I have had for quite some time now. I would say that Kendrick Lamar is… Read more
Probably the most funniest comment I seen in a long time Imao
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Got em!
I'll say it for you: Kendrick Lamar is Top 3 of all time.
The only hot take I can have is that I think gkmc is better than tpab it’s lot easier to listen to and has a much more consistent concept and replay ability
You have to do more than these.
Drake is the definition of mid. Even his best couple of albums are only just about 8/10's. Hasn't dropped a good project since 2015. In that time he's also dropped some absolute 1/10's. Still gets the streams because people are sheep and listen to whatever is popular. Dude isn't close to the debate for GOAT.
You’re 12 years old. Stay away from HipHop kid
I swear, if Drake wasn't behind a machine since 'So Far Gone', many ppl wouldn't know him or even dare to put him at a goat conversation.
Russ is a great rapper, very underrated, all his album are fire, chomp and chomp 2 are amazing
RIP LOVE being "cringey" is a stupid take when giving without warning points for originality the idea of 2 people cheating on each other and it being talked about is smart sorry he didn't go all "we cry together" to sacrifice the quality of the song but the production is amazing and the concept is well done especially if the song is about a real thing. (also mr right nows hook is still better than drakes hook on rich flex)
always sad to finish an nfr vid, i always want it to go for hours😂😂
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It blows my mind how these two guys (that i very much like ! ) don't see how Drake is so low in the rankings of hip-hop. He's a superstar, a rap hitmachine, absolutely, but that doesn't mean much when MUSIC is inthe conversation ! The Beatles have maany many hits, but that's not what makes them one of the best of all time, it's the innovation, the avant-gatde, the vision they had from 1966 to 1969 !
It blows my mind how these two don't get that...
Come on guys would you really put Drake top 10? I really like Drake but come on there’s so many better rappers out there
Crazy the hate on Savage mode 2
It’s prolly one of my favorite albums I agree also there are no skips Agreee?
going off the lp! take, atrocity exibition is a top 5 hip hop album of all time
Valid fr
1:50 okay so if we’re gonna say this is an essential quality of being the goat then we by definition have to take Jay, Nas, Wayne and Em out of the goat convo.
Jay post Black Album dropped nothing by decent-mid albums until he did 4:44, Nas had a clear dry spell between Stillmatic/God’s Son and the King’s Disease series (with the exception of Life is Good imo), Wayne fell off hard for at least 5 years before Carter 5 and Em hasn’t dropped a high quality project imo since Bad Meet Evil and not a high quality solo project since Eminem Show
Drake is an easy target but this argument is irrelevant
I think when its all said and done JID and Denzel will be top 10
Hot take: I Never Liked You is Future’s best album (I’m a huge Future fan)
have you even listened to ds2
@@admo935 DS2 has more misses (I will get destroyed for that but it’s just true)
@@coastercrazinessds2 it’s prime future perfect album from him
@@thomo2127 I Never Liked You is peak Future. The most versatile he’s been in a while and got so many bangers. Such a cinematic trap sound that I just love. It beats out every other Future album for me
0:16 every chewsday
i feel like people treat jay z like drake too much, the difference is i think jay z deserves all the hype he gets (no offense to drake but man isnt the number 2 rapper all time) like even though a lot of people say BP3 is week i think the entire BP series slaps hard, not to mention his other great albums and the fact he can still drop good songs today (something you cant say bout a lot of ogs) plus the man has so many iconic songs and tracks that id argue he defines ny music (although i think pac nas and biggie are better id argue none have the amount of anthems jay z does)
I’m not a huge Drake hater, but I agree with the GOAT take. Artists like Andre, Kendrick, and Nas have way more consistent discographies and are just overall better rappers. I respect his influence and how big he is as an artist, but in no way is he a GOAT
New em is overhated. His newer projects obviously aren't on par with a mmlp or tes but not much is. But when listening to kamikaze and mtbmb, there are the occasional misses, but overall the penmanship is out of this world. There aren't many sing for the moments on the albums for example but they're not storytelling albums. They're just bar after bar that make you wonder how anyone could think of a way to interconnect everything he's saying
Bars aren't the only thing to rap songs
Out of this world lyricism doesn't mean much when the track sounds like shit musically and has the same subject matter as the last 3 albums.
@@InterstellarBountyHunter521 Thank you
@@Python-xs2iv Huge em fan, and I agree that it's overhated. But I don't ever find myself returning to any of these albums other than Revival for Walk on Water, River, Castle, Arose, etc. Hope he finds himself.
@@InterstellarBountyHunter521 I'm optimistic about his next album. I think he has one more truly great album in him
Y’all should make a defending Drake video cause you guys get flames for a lot of your Drake defense as big fans, would love to hear the case for it
Good idea🤔 appreciate that!
savage mode is better than without warning. that's actually facts
WW > SM2 > SM1
1 or 2
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Kanye should be considered in more top 10 lists based purely on impact. He completely pivoted the rap genre, and has released some of the hardest hitting tracks of all. Not to mention he has decent rapping capability as well.
in terms of influence and discography, kanye IS the goat
@Adam Beckner idk I remember growing up a lot of people despised Kanye even before he said that anti-semetic shit. Maybe it was just where I grew up🤷♂️
Bro literally everyone says he’s the GOAT… only grandpas will say “2Pac and Biggie better”
And they’re wrong. He’s the greatest in hip hop, he’s not a decent rapper. He’s the BEST Rapper. He’s a decent lyricist. But his voice, flow, content and punch lines is better than anyone so it makes him the best.
Which is why he’s outdone Wu Tang members, Jay Z, Kendrick, Pusha and Nas in songs. On top of having the best hip hop album, MBDTF and the greatest discog.
Gorgeous
New God Flow
Clique
NMPILA
We Major
And there’s many more songs where this is the case.
@@Djhiphop1000000000fax, his lyricism is getting underrated at this point because people only focus on his production & artistic strengths outside of rapping
Idk if this is a bad take, but if u believe in the third album best album thing then cordaes next album gon be fire
the second take is such an unfair one. while yes drakes not making any take cares anymore, he’s still mostly releasing quality work, and talent wise he’s only improved. he dropped middle of the ocean which is one of his career performances. you’re taking so much away from drakes early career and his impact is undeniable. and if we’re using that argument then should hov even be in the goat convo because of his mediocre run from the late 00s early 10s?
Nah don't compare jay to drake
rappers Hov, em and nas have had a bit of a downfall but their peaks were something that rappers like drake dream of achieving. Drake is more of a commercrial artist
I haven't even watched 30 seconds of the video and the comments look like Baghdad. Mention Jay-Z and Drake and everyone loses their minds, good Lord.
I don't like either of them but I respect their achievements. I think they both have fundamental issues to their character and their legacies but their music resonates with millions, even if only as filler or background music.
They had the skill/acumen to make their music broadly appealing despite their flaws and they've done it consistently enough to be relevant in many people's lives. They both could retire and live comfortably they refuse and continue to release well into their seniority.
I don't like them but I respect them.
@@yunahr4120 Like I said, I have issues with all of their CHARACTERS. All of their public personas are just bizarre and warped by their fanbase.
But I respect the impact they left on music.
saying RIP LUV is a "cringe skip" on savage mode 2 is an even worse take than saying sm2 is better than without warning
Love the fact that Drake fans only love to bring "impact", sales and hits but never bring his artistry/skillset lol. 1st, his catalog is weak amongst his peers, no classic album (a top 10 goat rap album contender), got vividly exposed for benefiting from ghostwriting, he shamelessly bites off upcoming rappers, his rapping skillset is quite limited (Never tells stories, super monotone). Bro might be the goat pop-rapper, but not one of the goat MC's
"no fuck no" luca became dor a second a scouser 😂😂
SM2 overall quality and highlights beat any of his previous projects IMO. Rapping performances are much better and more consistent that those on sm1 or even without warning. Production is almost flawless, excluding mr right now and rip love.
RIP Luv is amazing yall trippin
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH THIS W
11:35 Love seeing Lu goofing off 🤣
Good vid
Might as well leave my hot take here: Tetsuo & Youth > good kid, m.A.A.d city
As much as i love lupe i cant cosign this+t&y isnt even a t4 lupe album phenomenal album imo
@@Aburner960 T&Y not even Top 4 Lupe? It's his best work.
@@MetalSonic420 food and liquor the cool dmiz and drogas wave>>>
@@Aburner960 DMIZ is not better than T&Y.
@@MetalSonic420 it is
I don’t think that jay z ever had a long period of being completely dominant and just being “the man” in hip hop like a lot of the other goats. That being said, saying he isn’t top 10 is crazy, should definitely be at least top 5 in everyone’s list
Love all the JPEG love the channel has been getting. I think he has the most consistently amazing discog in the genre currently. He literally cannot miss. Veteran, AMHAC, EP1, EP2, LP! are all amazing
Denzel > Drake easily. The only thing Drake has over him is mainstream hits.
The drake meat riding is beyond belief
You can say that again
Someone said NWTS is a 6
Scary
21 rapping ability has gotten better and better, that’s why SM2 > without warning and SM1
Paper trails by Joeybada$$ is arguably the best song oat
Hot take: “Be” by Common is the greatest hiphop album of all time.
No, but it is super underrated
Some filler tracks yk
Also just doesn't stack up to the all time classics
Excellent take. I don’t necessarily agree but that is a great take
Facts
It’s top 5 from the 2000s no question
LP! Take is a W
this wave of drake hate getting insanely ridiculous and corny
What hate? It's just facts
@@Python-xs2iv No it's not. Just admit you're jumping on the hate wagon for no reason. The only hate he deserves is for CLB and HN.
@@Bucheria Drake hasn't been that special since 2015. Only until recently he's put out truly bad albums
Hot Take: CMIYGL is Tyler’s best album.
This shouldn't be a hot take it really is
this gotta be the only place on the internet that ranks Denzel so high
There are plenty of places on the internet who rank denzel higher than drake (for good reason)