Ewing was too good for them to tank. They should have made better tanking efforts when Ewing was hurt. Look at the Spurs. They only ever tanked once in my lifetime and they got 5 rings in a tiny market. Those in charge should be fired ;)
You take Ewing over Clyde Frazier? Respectfully disagree, Frazier was one of the best clutch players of all time, one of the greatest Finals Game 7s all time. He always gets forgotten because he won his titles in that weird early 70s era.
He never played with another hofer during the period of the Knicks contending years , the only one he did play with who was Bernard King , tenure with Patrick Ewing wasn't when the Knicks were apex contenders ,and was only for 1 season .That's Ewing's stunted growth ,he simply didn't have the adequate help needed to fulfill winning a championship . Another potential Hofer who Patrick Ewing played alongside Mark Jackson wasn't considered worthy enough to be compensated financially amongst the top tier point guards when his contract ran out which certainly had a hand in the missing titles on Ewing's resume as well as Jackson's .
Growing up in NYC and a die- hard Knicks fan, I respected Patrick's heart and effort that he displayed on the court but having to keep trying to fight through Jordan's Bulls teams in an already tough Eastern Conference took its toll. One of the reasons Patrick didn't win a ring outside of Michael Jordan was Pat Riley ego for keeping John starks in game 7 instead of putting in Hubert Davis or Rolando Blackman .
I agree completely. And I'm riding wit ya on them Knickerbockers. We will get that championship... eventually. And they better give Pat a ring too, just because....
I loved starks but everyone knew how streaky he was. Brilliant game 6 horrid game 7. I'm shocked more people don't blame starks like they blame Charles Smith. Starks game was all time worse in history of the finals & it was a game 7. They just need that game they win it all Ewing gets his ring. Smith got stuffed excruciatingly like 8 times in a row & is hard to watch. I know it was a huge game to not lose home court & to beat mj they worked so hard all year for hoke court. Which is so easily taken away in one playoff game. Anyway the Knicks everyone knew were done in 93 as they just could not beat the bulls in Chicago & usually got destroyed. Which they did. I remember after the Smith game nobody in my family wanted to watch anymore. Lol. I'm not kidding the Knicks were still alive but beating mj in Chicago was a sad formality of not gonna happen.
the Knicks have a big responsibility in Ewing's lack of rings. They never built an adequate team around him. However, I feel many people overestimate the importance of rings won in evaluating a player. Championships are won by teams, not by single players. Several different factors involved. Winning is important but it's not the only thing that should be considered
the knicks in the ninetys built a good team around him oakland greg anthony anthony mason mcdaniels john starks derek harper it was a strong team especially defensively its just choke jobs missed layups and other unlucky moments
He’s in my Top 10 Centers all time, Ewing was a beast and never cheated the game. The injuries, bad press, lack of talented teammates, whatever, it didn’t matter. You knew that if you saw that box fade, knee pads, and #33 you were getting your money’s worth. He’s always thrown in with the Malones, Stockton’s, Barkley’s etc., but to me Ewing had a legitimate excuse. He’s the HOFer that played with the least amount of talent all time. Who was his 2nd best teammate? Oakley? Starks? And Pat was taking them to the Finals. Idc what nobody says, you can’t think of 90s basketball without Ewing.
I hear you but he just wasn't as good as Robinson, O'Neal, and Olajuwon to me. Any year you wanna name in the 90's he was always the 3rd best center in the league never the defacto best
@@vizionaryentertainment8464 I’m confused, where did I say he was the “de facto best”? Reread what I wrote, please. I said he’s in my Top 10 Centers all time. To which you replied by listing 4 great centers who were his peers. My point was that Patrick Ewing was a competitor, so what you had to say about his contemporaries was irrelevant.
@@johnnyblingg In your statement you said hes thrown in with barkley and Malone and I thinks fair. Ewing doesn't really have a legitimate excuse for the simple fact that he made it to the promise land in '94 and just didn't get it done. Hakeem didn't have a 2nd superstar that series either so it was fair game. He belongs in the Malone category.
@@vizionaryentertainment8464 Ok, so you disagree with my point for being included with the Malones, Stocktons, Barkley’s, etc., which is a completely different point from your first reply. Now first, you disagree with him not being in with said other greats, but did nothing to refute my point; Patrick Ewing had the least amount of talent around him for a superstar of all time. The only thing you did was name the only other superstar who has done it in modern times (post-ABA merger):Hakeem (for his first ring) and Bill Walton. The only other to do it before Hakeem and Bill Walton was Wilt Chamberlain. You’re killing Ewing’s stature for something that had only happened 3 times in the NBA’s 80+ years of existence. And you’re grading him against players I didn’t compare him to. I’d never make the argument that he’s better than the players you listed, but I do feel Patrick Ewing is better than Barkley, Malone, and Stockton and other players from the era who were affected by the Jordan Effect. Patrick Ewing had 2 NBA Finals appearances in his NBA career, where he was either the de facto leader or elder statesmen for those teams and THEY BOTH HAPPENED ON THE KNICKS. Malone was playing next to another HOFer in Stockton, Chuck asked for help and got KJ (who was an all star), and I’m a bigger fan of Barkley but I’m being completely honest about legacy ranking. The 2 best players Patrick Ewing played with was John Starks and Oakley. While other legends played with Top 50 players in their prime, like The Dream (w/ Clyde) and Mailman (w/Stockton), Pat was with players who’d probably wouldn’t crack the Top 300 and he still made it up there to the Finals twice, which is more than Barkley, Iverson, and Reggie Miller, and equal to Malone and Stockton’s Finals appearances. I’d say Pat Ewing is the middle bridge that separates the Malones and Barkleys, from the Robinsons and the Hakeems. I’ll even take it a step further on the only player on your list who I’m gonna take a shot at: David Robinson. David Robinson got his two rings, not in his prime, but only after he got Tim Duncan. If you take out the rings pre-Duncan, David Robinson’s resume won’t come close to Pat Ewing, it wouldn’t even be better than Reggie Miller, if we’re being straight up.
Ewing was expecting a bump on that miss layup Antonio or Dale stayed back. He put a little extra for the contact that never came then there goes the back iron. You’re not gonna stop MJ but I think Xavier McDaniel helped neutralize Pippen (took the Bulls to game 7 in 92). I also feel Riley should take some blame. If Starks is on fire in game 6 only Mason or Oakley set picks (no need for a P&R option since Olajuwon is good at covering ground on a switch). Game 7 I blame Riley and Starks because most people know you get out of a slump by attacking the basket and free throws. Because of injury Ewing’s prime was when he first got in the league up to about 90-91.
I agree with you. Riley made roaster like what he likes. But doesn't have solution about offence. If ewing was with mark jackson and X-man,one more good shooter through his career, he would have a ring.
I always said Bernard king getting injured hurt the Knicks and ewing.they never replaced his scoring or talent.those Knicks teams was not a smooth oiled machine on offense and Ewing was all they could ever count on.he needed help.also if he was healthy in 99 against the Spurs they would have had a great chance to win.he really needed that 1999 🏆
Great job as always. 1 thing us Knicks fans remember. 96-97. Ewing was still healthy enough to be a threat. Houston was improving. Oak was still a beast and LJ was a mismatch. Knicks up 3-1 on the Heat until David Stern f's things up by suspending half the Knicks squad allowing the Heat to go get steamrolled by the Bulls. Knicks were a THREAT that year!! Jordan said it himself.
Yea. PJ Brown flipped Charlie Ward is what started it. And for the young cats, look up Charlie Ward on the football field. Back then, NFL teams were blind to his talent which absolutely made no sense at all. He was a special 2 sport star at FSU and was a solid NBA player for years. Respect to Charlie Ward.
Growing up a fan of the terrible New Jersey Nets I always hated the Knicks. When I say hate, I mean hate with a passion too. But even with a Knicks hater, Patrick Ewing has the total respect of any NBA fan watching the game in his era. This guy was a legend and did everything right. It's a shame he doesn't have a few rings, he certainly deserved a couple of them. Poor guy was always surrounded by overhyped barely average players.
It always amazes me when people unlike your content. You obviously put in the work as far as research, knowledgeable of the game, editing be on point... what's to unlike??
I think Patrick Ewing is one of the most underrated players of all time honestly. It's weird how a top 50 all time guy can be a top 50 underrated at the same time too. A few of those 90's centers are really underrated imo. Alonzo Mounring and especially David Robinson are also underrated. I really loved all those great 90's centers. My fav era tbh.
This one is simple. HE PLAYED IN THE JORDAN ERA!!! Had his shot against Houston came up short. End of story. As a side note: he came into the league when the East was ruled by Boston and Detroit. Great career, NO STUNTED GROWTH. He had to deal with better players and better teams.
@Malaki727 It's also back when men played the game. Today's players are simply unlikeable. They're selfish, self absorbed and soft. Imagine a guy today playing hurt like Patrick did?
Not to mention Worthy and Perkins.Check the lineup: PG: Jimmy Black SG Jordan SF Worthy, PF Perkins C Ewing.....who beats THAT team? A front line of 6'9", 6'10" with a 7'5" reach and the most intimidating 7 footer in college history.
Stunted Growth: Early 90s Knicks 1. Never could find a true SF/3 2. Late to the Bad Boy Piston Imitation Game / Late to the NBA changes in the 90s 3. Inconsistent PG Play. 4. Lack of outside shooting
Also: lack of an offensive game plan. It was almost always "Ewing or bust" they had no movement and took forever to get into their offensive sets. You would think the former coach of the showtime Lakers would be able to implement a somewhat decent offensive scheme.
@Will Clinton as much as I respect Ewing it is true that Hakeem and Shaq were better. David Robinson was probably better too but not by much, an argument can really be made there. Robinson always had a much better supporting cast than Patrick.
@@dontdoittoyoself6786 awww.. that's cute... Olajuwon won the Finals MVP while averaging 27/9/4/4... but those % numbers you threw out there sure tell the whole story.. hahahaha. Hakeem was 25/10/7/3 in that Game 7 while Ewing was 17/10/1/2... but focus on that fg% buddy
This video details Patrick Ewing's Hall of Fame career respectfully. Of course he fell short against the likes of the great Michael Jordan and the amazing Hakeem Olajuwon if you look at his career. But one thing was for certain, Patrick indeed displayed his tremendous heart night in and night out. And as a Knicks fan, I will always respect that. The 1999 1st round playoff series against the Miami Heat displayed that heart. Hobbling up and down the court. Patrick had no business being on that floor throughout that 5 game series. Knicks don't beat the Heat without him. He still outplayed his fellow Hoya Destroyers in Mourning and Mutombo during those 1999 playoffs on one leg.
I have a SONICS 33 EWING jersey! I was SO excited when we traded for Pat Ewing. I knew that he wasn't the 25ppg guy anymore, but I thought that he could have been 15 points, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks for us.
Patrick Ewing did not get his ring, because the Knicks got the worst ownership in professional sports!!! How rings the Knicks got since Pat left ~ remember the Georgetown years. The four years Pat was at Georgetown the greatest college basketball team of all times! He took Hakeem to school! Respect!
If he had a player as good as Pippen he’d have at least two rings. In 94, Hakeem was just better. But the Knicks still took them to 7. I’m glad I was young in 94 because Idk how you can get over a game 7 finals loss.
My aunt went to high school with him. I asked her if she remembered him & she said he was a quiet kid but obviously very tall so he was very noticeable. Also mentioned he wasn't too cute either so she paid him no mind. Told her you missed your golden ticket. Smh
The 1997 New York Knicks ruined everything. That Brawl in the 1997 playoffs vs the Miami Heat. That was when the Knicks started to decline. That was Ewing's last healthy season too!
Ewing WAS NOT A LOSER. He had good teammates. He had good to great coaches. They just lost to teams that was better/or had momentum on thier side. You mention EWING in NY or in any NBA circles it demands RESPECT. That man played his heart out!
Great video man I really got a good perspective on Ewing , I slowdown though he was amazing and in any other era he’d help get a ring , but Jordan took 6 years out many talent players prime , and those who came in the 80s had to deal with LA , Boston , Detroit , then Chicago , it was a tough time to try and get a ring
Biggest stunt was the end of the real King of NY. If Ewing had King by his side, the NBA may have gotten it's goal, another 💍 in the biggest market. Must have been karma? NY seems cursed. Even the Nets 🤣
Hell no just give him the credit and respect that he deserve he was definitely a game changer for ever from George Town days till the day he retired jorden was always the man to beat but also had role players the Knick’s didn’t have much he work with what he had don’t forget in 94 he played the most minutes of his career fourty plus and he didn’t have any back up players I still feel his pain also he could of left to go to the suns with barkey but he said no and stayed loyal till he got trayed 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Stunted growth man I enjoy your videos bro you should have way more subscribers than this but you heading there first time I see your video I was like this brother can work on ESPN for real but the reason why I'm coming in again I like you to do Marlene otty but yeah Patrick Ewing is and will be the greatest knicks
Imagine how hyped Dwight howard was....imagine all the gifts dwight had... Now that you have that image, give him a mid-range jumper, better hands, better awareness, better footwork, more toughness and a better off-hand...that's PAtrick Ewing. It Pat Ewing came into the league in the mid-2000s like Dwight, Pat would be looked at like the next Shaq. Always got love for Ewing. Wish he had better luck. Imagine if he somehow was a Spur with TD, PArker, Bowen, Manu, etc...instead of David Robinson. If i analyze his whole game on both ends... i dont know if I have ever seen a player like him. He was like if you made Karl Malone a 7' center. LeBron's best type of sidekick is low-key an athletic big who set great screens, catches every pass, rolls smartly and finishes on both sides with either hand, but can also hit pick and pop jumpers. Look in 2003, LeBron and Boozer, two young dudes, ran Pick and Roll like veterans. It was fun to watch. Then, LeBrons best sidekick in three straight playoffs was ANDERSON VAREJAO who he always hit on pick and rolls. I wish he could have played with a more dynamic big, earlier... like if Boozer stayed, if Amare went to CLE, if Bosh was more of a threat to dunk anytime on anyone, instead of mainly being a 18 foot threat in MIA. I think LeBron's best fit out of all the historic teams to this date, in my opinion, would have been to take Steve Nash's place at PG of the Suns with Amare, Shawn, Joe Johnson, etc...if he has all those shooters and a roll man like Amare....nobody would have ever seen anything like that. My off-topic-ass point is, Pat Ewing would have been fun to watch with LeBron. He could have tossed it to him in the post and had hiim get his own, he could have found himinside on PnRs or he could have him spread the floor with 15-20 foot jumpers Sorry, this is what happens when youre a millenial basketball fan from Akron. You imagine what it would have been like if LeBron played with _______ or ________.
I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American. A stiff, who didn't have cable TV until I was 18, so my NBA viewing was unfortunately limited to national games, and Sonics road games.
I mean, name a current player avg 25, 10, and 3blks. You can't. Ewing did that over a 6 year average. Hakeem did it even more than that. These type of greats don't exist anymore.
You do know that Pat played most of the 1994-1995 season on a bad leg, right? That layup against the Pacers in the Eastern Conference Semifinals had nothing to do with heart. His leg finally gave up on him and he couldn’t get up high enough to where that would’ve been a usual dunk of Pat’s.
As a former New Yorker, and current Knicks fan, Patrick Ewing did not win a ring because of teammates. Patrick never had his Scottie Pippen! Personally, I think Charles Oakley was an overrated bum! We needed an enforcer who can score. On the offensive end it was five on four basketball because Oakley's lack of offensive made it easier for teams to double team Patrick. Furthermore, the Knicks should have kept Rod Strickland and traded Mark Jackson because Strickland having the ball in his hand would have made the Knicks a more balanced team and play at a faster pace instead of waiting for Ewing to get in the post on every possession. It's hard to win in the playoffs when you rely on one person to win games for 20 years. No knock on Mark Jackson but he was too slow and a defensive liability
I don't know about the not enough around him stuff during his prime stuff, that really is a Jordan thing. The Knicks mid 90s were loaded and good enough to get to the Finals. Starks was no scrub and could catch fire at any moment. Derek Harper was solid, Greg Anthony. Their front court was crazy strong. Always loved Anthony Mason. Ewing will always be considered a winner even with no chip.
It was a damn shame what happened to him...he never had a legitimate shot when he was in his prime..MJ shattered a lot of dreams,and EWING was a victim... which goes to show why people considered MJ the GOAT..but I digress.. because the KNICKS were just dumb..how you have a generational talent in the mecca of basketball and not give this man the tools to beat teams back then?..the man was a WARRIOR who deserved better...much respect to MR.EWING..he is still a winner..and his story is a testement of heart and determination and shows why he is a great coach..
Ewing kept losing for the exact same reasons Malone, Stockton, Barkley, and many other superstars never won a ring. Ewing is not more of a loser than anybody else. he never had another great player in his team. there is 30 teams and only one can win the title at the end of the playoffs. one team win, every other lose. so when a single team won 6 in 8 years, there is not a lot of room for all the other superstars....
But unlike all the other names you mentioned Pat played with the least amount of talent for a superstar, possibly of all time. Ewing doesn’t get the credit for doing basically what AI & LeBron did in 2001 & 2007, but for his entire career.
@@johnnyblingg Excellent takes on your part. What AI and Lebron did for those seasons you mentioned were amazing NBA moments. Ewing although he fell short of that coveted ring, had amazing moments throughout his career. I think fans almost forget that an old Patrick Ewing was still able to match or even exceed a prime Alonzo Mourning statistically when the Knicks took "3-out-of-4" of those playoff series against those Miami Heat teams from 1997-to-2000. Those Miami Heat teams were considered superior to the NY Knicks on paper.
@@toddsands6000 That’s why I don’t get the Ewing slander. If anything I think for what he’s done for his career he should be ranked ahead of some of his peers. Like to me, Ewing is better than David Robinson, Karl Malone, Stockton, and (even tho he’s my favorite player) Chuck, etc. Ewing brought NY to the Finals twice and he did it with less talent than The Dream, and is tied with Stockton and Malone for Finals appearances, which is also 1 more than Barkley. And i can’t reiterate it enough, Ewing kept the Knicks competitive for almost his entire NY career, with virtually no real talent, at least offensively. The best center of the 90s to me were Hakeem, Shaq, and Ewing. Tim Duncan saved David Robinson’s career.
Man the Knicks either had tooo many power forwards or too many point guards Ewing didn’t win because he didn’t team up with Reggie Miller and Barkley to take on the bulls lol man them Hoyas team were tough what’s crazy is I always thought Georgetown was a hbcu because of the basketball team lol I was a kid
Patrick Ewing had the best one hand jam thank you ma'am dunks of all time if anyone can prove me wrong more power to you but I can't say I wasn't a next friend I was at Seattle supersonic fan all because of my stunning growth Shawn Kemp and only reason why Shawn Kemp was my favorite basketball player of all time is because I used to play 101 with a good friend of mine that used to beat my ass because I was fresh off the boat from Jamaica didn't know what basketball was but over the time and years I became a beast so my story goes when we still have the upper deck basketball cards we used to play 101 and I've told him the first player that I pick from open the upper deck will be my favorite player and sure enough it was Shawn Kemp
As a Knick fan from that era, when we needed him the most he failed us. If they would have beaten Houston for the ring, Derek Harper was the one who was putting that work in. Second chance against the Spurs sadly his body failed him, eventually failing us. And he was shitty teammate. He could check his team but his team couldn't check him. That's buh'shit. No roses for him only advice, "YOU GOTTA DUNK THAT SHIT!!! Let's go Knicks!!!
His is a joke right!!! Next we will see a Michael Jordan stunted growth or a Shaquille o'neal stunted growth. Patrick was a beast and carried that franchise. He is a hall of famer for a reason
In 95, the knicks didnt lose to the pacers in the eastern finals.. I think they lost in the second round.. coz the eastern finals was between the pacers and orlando.. the latter making it to the finals
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TOP 50 SERIES: Why couldn't Patrick Ewing win a championship?
Cuz of Jordan
@@donteerb8789 That's one reason.
He was too loyal. He should of teamed up with other stars like they do now(Lebron, Durant)
@@donteerb8789 He should of joined jordan on the bulls. Thats what durant would have done. lol
Ewing was too good for them to tank. They should have made better tanking efforts when Ewing was hurt. Look at the Spurs. They only ever tanked once in my lifetime and they got 5 rings in a tiny market. Those in charge should be fired ;)
Patrick Ewing da greatest Knick! I agree injuries and tough competition was his biggest stunts. He's still top 8 centers all-time.
You take Ewing over Clyde Frazier? Respectfully disagree, Frazier was one of the best clutch players of all time, one of the greatest Finals Game 7s all time. He always gets forgotten because he won his titles in that weird early 70s era.
@@kevinwillette5161 Pat played in a tougher era remember those series with the Bulls and Pacers legendary. Plus Pat played both ends
Ewing is my favorite center the only reason I was a Knicks fan in the 90s
Till this day!
He never played with another hofer during the period of the Knicks contending years , the only one he did play with who was Bernard King , tenure with Patrick Ewing wasn't when the Knicks were apex contenders ,and was only for 1 season .That's Ewing's stunted growth ,he simply didn't have the adequate help needed to fulfill winning a championship . Another potential Hofer who Patrick Ewing played alongside Mark Jackson wasn't considered worthy enough to be compensated financially amongst the top tier point guards when his contract ran out which certainly had a hand in the missing titles on Ewing's resume as well as Jackson's .
I always liked him but hated the Knicks. Even as a pacer fan, loved Ewing
93/94 Knicks were the reason I became a fan in the first place RIP full contact basketball
Growing up in NYC and a die- hard Knicks fan, I respected Patrick's heart and effort that he displayed on the court but having to keep trying to fight through Jordan's Bulls teams in an already tough Eastern Conference took its toll. One of the reasons Patrick didn't win a ring outside of Michael Jordan was Pat Riley ego for keeping John starks in game 7 instead of putting in Hubert Davis or Rolando Blackman .
I agree completely. And I'm riding wit ya on them Knickerbockers. We will get that championship... eventually. And they better give Pat a ring too, just because....
I loved starks but everyone knew how streaky he was. Brilliant game 6 horrid game 7. I'm shocked more people don't blame starks like they blame Charles Smith. Starks game was all time worse in history of the finals & it was a game 7. They just need that game they win it all Ewing gets his ring. Smith got stuffed excruciatingly like 8 times in a row & is hard to watch. I know it was a huge game to not lose home court & to beat mj they worked so hard all year for hoke court. Which is so easily taken away in one playoff game. Anyway the Knicks everyone knew were done in 93 as they just could not beat the bulls in Chicago & usually got destroyed. Which they did. I remember after the Smith game nobody in my family wanted to watch anymore. Lol. I'm not kidding the Knicks were still alive but beating mj in Chicago was a sad formality of not gonna happen.
@@nattyps3160I think bc starks did a lot more good than charles Smith ever did
the Knicks have a big responsibility in Ewing's lack of rings. They never built an adequate team around him. However, I feel many people overestimate the importance of rings won in evaluating a player. Championships are won by teams, not by single players. Several different factors involved. Winning is important but it's not the only thing that should be considered
the knicks in the ninetys built a good team around him oakland greg anthony anthony mason mcdaniels john starks derek harper it was a strong team especially defensively its just choke jobs missed layups and other unlucky moments
@@wifilostconnection5992 "Good Team" not a CHAMPIONSHIP team. What other HOFer played w Ewing in his prime? Or PERIOD?
@@mistermann3225 What other all star played with Ewing in his prime?
@@johnnyblingg none!!!
He got the reputation of a loser, when ed pickney and Villanova spanked him in college.
The “Jordan Effect” was real
yes bruh
Jordan effect Hakeem effect and knees effect lol
@@kenyattakariem9708 lol 😂
Hakeem
Words can't describe how much love and respect I have for Ewing
He’s in my Top 10 Centers all time, Ewing was a beast and never cheated the game. The injuries, bad press, lack of talented teammates, whatever, it didn’t matter. You knew that if you saw that box fade, knee pads, and #33 you were getting your money’s worth.
He’s always thrown in with the Malones, Stockton’s, Barkley’s etc., but to me Ewing had a legitimate excuse. He’s the HOFer that played with the least amount of talent all time. Who was his 2nd best teammate? Oakley? Starks? And Pat was taking them to the Finals. Idc what nobody says, you can’t think of 90s basketball without Ewing.
#Pure Facts 100%
I hear you but he just wasn't as good as Robinson, O'Neal, and Olajuwon to me. Any year you wanna name in the 90's he was always the 3rd best center in the league never the defacto best
@@vizionaryentertainment8464 I’m confused, where did I say he was the “de facto best”?
Reread what I wrote, please. I said he’s in my Top 10 Centers all time. To which you replied by listing 4 great centers who were his peers. My point was that Patrick Ewing was a competitor, so what you had to say about his contemporaries was irrelevant.
@@johnnyblingg In your statement you said hes thrown in with barkley and Malone and I thinks fair. Ewing doesn't really have a legitimate excuse for the simple fact that he made it to the promise land in '94 and just didn't get it done. Hakeem didn't have a 2nd superstar that series either so it was fair game. He belongs in the Malone category.
@@vizionaryentertainment8464 Ok, so you disagree with my point for being included with the Malones, Stocktons, Barkley’s, etc., which is a completely different point from your first reply.
Now first, you disagree with him not being in with said other greats, but did nothing to refute my point; Patrick Ewing had the least amount of talent around him for a superstar of all time. The only thing you did was name the only other superstar who has done it in modern times (post-ABA merger):Hakeem (for his first ring) and Bill Walton. The only other to do it before Hakeem and Bill Walton was Wilt Chamberlain. You’re killing Ewing’s stature for something that had only happened 3 times in the NBA’s 80+ years of existence. And you’re grading him against players I didn’t compare him to. I’d never make the argument that he’s better than the players you listed, but I do feel Patrick Ewing is better than Barkley, Malone, and Stockton and other players from the era who were affected by the Jordan Effect. Patrick Ewing had 2 NBA Finals appearances in his NBA career, where he was either the de facto leader or elder statesmen for those teams and THEY BOTH HAPPENED ON THE KNICKS.
Malone was playing next to another HOFer in Stockton, Chuck asked for help and got KJ (who was an all star), and I’m a bigger fan of Barkley but I’m being completely honest about legacy ranking. The 2 best players Patrick Ewing played with was John Starks and Oakley. While other legends played with Top 50 players in their prime, like The Dream (w/ Clyde) and Mailman (w/Stockton), Pat was with players who’d probably wouldn’t crack the Top 300 and he still made it up there to the Finals twice, which is more than Barkley, Iverson, and Reggie Miller, and equal to Malone and Stockton’s Finals appearances. I’d say Pat Ewing is the middle bridge that separates the Malones and Barkleys, from the Robinsons and the Hakeems.
I’ll even take it a step further on the only player on your list who I’m gonna take a shot at: David Robinson. David Robinson got his two rings, not in his prime, but only after he got Tim Duncan. If you take out the rings pre-Duncan, David Robinson’s resume won’t come close to Pat Ewing, it wouldn’t even be better than Reggie Miller, if we’re being straight up.
Terrific video!! Ever considered doing one for Jamal Mashburn? Keep it up!!!
Ewing didn't have a second star in his prime
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The knicks front office back in the nineties were so cheap they wasted Pat's prime years
Ewing was expecting a bump on that miss layup Antonio or Dale stayed back. He put a little extra for the contact that never came then there goes the back iron. You’re not gonna stop MJ but I think Xavier McDaniel helped neutralize Pippen (took the Bulls to game 7 in 92). I also feel Riley should take some blame. If Starks is on fire in game 6 only Mason or Oakley set picks (no need for a P&R option since Olajuwon is good at covering ground on a switch). Game 7 I blame Riley and Starks because most people know you get out of a slump by attacking the basket and free throws. Because of injury Ewing’s prime was when he first got in the league up to about 90-91.
I agree with you. Riley made roaster like what he likes. But doesn't have solution about offence. If ewing was with mark jackson and X-man,one more good shooter through his career, he would have a ring.
That lay up he missed back in ‘94 I know still haunts him to this day.
95
@@arizonaFIREent ‘94-95 season. Same thing
And that 96-97 season.... dang PJ Brown for tossing Charlie Ward!
@@terucks if it wasnt for that suspensions. Knicks would have likely made it and face the bulls but probably lose to them. Idk
Almost like the bunny that Tim Duncan missed in 2013 against the Heat but it was much worst for Ewing because he never bounced back.
In 1995, Knicks lost in the Eastern Conference SEMIFINALS to the Pacers...
I always said Bernard king getting injured hurt the Knicks and ewing.they never replaced his scoring or talent.those Knicks teams was not a smooth oiled machine on offense and Ewing was all they could ever count on.he needed help.also if he was healthy in 99 against the Spurs they would have had a great chance to win.he really needed that 1999 🏆
I rate Ewing the greatest Knick Ever!!
@Areray, A good argument can certainly be made that Patrick is the greatest player to wear a Knicks jersey.
People will never realize MJ was thorn in Ewing’s side for 2 decades crazy
Whew man I used to hate when we(Bulls) had to play the Knicks. Those were some legendary battles
Great job as always. 1 thing us Knicks fans remember. 96-97. Ewing was still healthy enough to be a threat. Houston was improving. Oak was still a beast and LJ was a mismatch. Knicks up 3-1 on the Heat until David Stern f's things up by suspending half the Knicks squad allowing the Heat to go get steamrolled by the Bulls. Knicks were a THREAT that year!! Jordan said it himself.
What were they suspended for? 😳
@@blackdragon6 Leaving the bench during a brawl
Yea. PJ Brown flipped Charlie Ward is what started it. And for the young cats, look up Charlie Ward on the football field. Back then, NFL teams were blind to his talent which absolutely made no sense at all. He was a special 2 sport star at FSU and was a solid NBA player for years. Respect to Charlie Ward.
Growing up a fan of the terrible New Jersey Nets I always hated the Knicks. When I say hate, I mean hate with a passion too.
But even with a Knicks hater, Patrick Ewing has the total respect of any NBA fan watching the game in his era.
This guy was a legend and did everything right. It's a shame he doesn't have a few rings, he certainly deserved a couple of them. Poor guy was always surrounded by overhyped barely average players.
It always amazes me when people unlike your content. You obviously put in the work as far as research, knowledgeable of the game, editing be on point... what's to unlike??
Micheal hunted Patrick through out his whole career , college and pro's!!
Thank you for this!!! The truth finally told. Patrick really didn't have help. Knicks giving up on Bernard King...smh
Charles Smith...smh
I think Patrick Ewing is one of the most underrated players of all time honestly. It's weird how a top 50 all time guy can be a top 50 underrated at the same time too. A few of those 90's centers are really underrated imo. Alonzo Mounring and especially David Robinson are also underrated. I really loved all those great 90's centers. My fav era tbh.
This one is simple. HE PLAYED IN THE JORDAN ERA!!! Had his shot against Houston came up short. End of story. As a side note: he came into the league when the East was ruled by Boston and Detroit. Great career, NO STUNTED GROWTH. He had to deal with better players and better teams.
Back when nba players actually stayed in college and worked
@Malaki727 It's also back when men played the game.
Today's players are simply unlikeable. They're selfish, self absorbed and soft. Imagine a guy today playing hurt like Patrick did?
The reason why he kept losing was because the Knicks management never put the proper players around him.
As a Knicks I agree
Yep, their second best player during his prime was John Starks. Not a scrub but not on Ewing’s level.
@@bjnt922 It worst than that.
I honestly believe Oakley was the second best player on those teams
I remember when the knicks let Xavier McDaniel leave for Boston after the 92 playoffs…that was the worse move made by the knicks…
@@beezy22 And who replaced him? Charles “Blocked Again” Smith 😄
Remember being super excited when the Knicks got Xavier McDaniel but he only lasted 1 season with them. Then there's Jordan.
Wow if Ewing went to Carolina and played with Jordan would of been crazy
Not to mention Worthy and Perkins.Check the lineup: PG: Jimmy Black SG Jordan SF Worthy, PF Perkins C Ewing.....who beats THAT team? A front line of 6'9", 6'10" with a 7'5" reach and the most intimidating 7 footer in college history.
Best KNICK of all time!! And Definitely one of the top 6 centers ever!!
Stunted Growth: Early 90s Knicks
1. Never could find a true SF/3
2. Late to the Bad Boy Piston Imitation Game / Late to the NBA changes in the 90s
3. Inconsistent PG Play.
4. Lack of outside shooting
Also: lack of an offensive game plan. It was almost always "Ewing or bust" they had no movement and took forever to get into their offensive sets. You would think the former coach of the showtime Lakers would be able to implement a somewhat decent offensive scheme.
Those of us in the NYC area knew how much Ewing meant...unfortunately in the 90s he was the 4th center behind Hakeem, Shaq, and David Robinson
@Will Clinton as much as I respect Ewing it is true that Hakeem and Shaq were better.
David Robinson was probably better too but not by much, an argument can really be made there. Robinson always had a much better supporting cast than Patrick.
If Starks made just 30% of his field goals in game 7, we wouldn't rank Hakeem above Ewing...
All spot on points. Let's get one of these on reggie miller.
Stunt #1= MJ
No Michael Jordan, No Reggie Miller equals Patrick Ewing Championship
Reggie Miller never won a ring.
@@vaughnreedjr6592 He prevented Patrick Ewing from going to the Eastern Conference Finals buddy
@@vaughnreedjr6592 Reggie never got a ring but prevented Patrick from a chance at getting one.
Top 2 reasons why Ewing never won at least one if not more championships are...
1. Michael Jordan
2. Hakeem Olajuwon
3. Bad Knees....and this goes all the way back to Georgetown!
Cassell was ballin too so it ain’t that simple.
@@dontdoittoyoself6786 I stand behind what i said... it's that simple to me
@@Boss3Nate People lie numbers don’t. Olajuwon went 10-25 (.400 fg%)game 7. Patrick Ewing went 7-17 (.412 fg%) game 7.
@@dontdoittoyoself6786 awww.. that's cute... Olajuwon won the Finals MVP while averaging 27/9/4/4... but those % numbers you threw out there sure tell the whole story.. hahahaha. Hakeem was 25/10/7/3 in that Game 7 while Ewing was 17/10/1/2... but focus on that fg% buddy
This video details Patrick Ewing's Hall of Fame career respectfully. Of course he fell short against the likes of the great Michael Jordan and the amazing Hakeem Olajuwon if you look at his career. But one thing was for certain, Patrick indeed displayed his tremendous heart night in and night out. And as a Knicks fan, I will always respect that. The 1999 1st round playoff series against the Miami Heat displayed that heart. Hobbling up and down the court. Patrick had no business being on that floor throughout that 5 game series. Knicks don't beat the Heat without him. He still outplayed his fellow Hoya Destroyers in Mourning and Mutombo during those 1999 playoffs on one leg.
He's still the best jump shooting center of all time. Only David Robinson is even close.
I have a SONICS 33 EWING jersey! I was SO excited when we traded for Pat Ewing. I knew that he wasn't the 25ppg guy anymore, but I thought that he could have been 15 points, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks for us.
my favorite player. just never had that no 2 guy..
Patrick Ewing did not get his ring, because the Knicks got the worst ownership in professional sports!!! How rings the Knicks got since Pat left ~ remember the Georgetown years. The four years Pat was at Georgetown the greatest college basketball team of all times! He took Hakeem to school! Respect!
i love your videos! Keep making them
If he had a player as good as Pippen he’d have at least two rings. In 94, Hakeem was just better. But the Knicks still took them to 7. I’m glad I was young in 94 because Idk how you can get over a game 7 finals loss.
Which reminds me.. Knicks management gave up on Bernard King way too early. Imagine Ewing with King at the wing.
My aunt went to high school with him. I asked her if she remembered him & she said he was a quiet kid but obviously very tall so he was very noticeable. Also mentioned he wasn't too cute either so she paid him no mind. Told her you missed your golden ticket. Smh
Patrick’s Knicks lost to Michael’s bulls in
1989 ECSF (4-2)
1991 Eastern Conference Quarterfinals (3-0)
1992 ECF (4-3)
1993 ECF (4-2)
1996 ECSF (4-1)
The 1997 New York Knicks ruined everything. That Brawl in the 1997 playoffs vs the Miami Heat. That was when the Knicks started to decline. That was Ewing's last healthy season too!
1 of my all time favorites
The Ultimate Warrior. My favorite player of all time together with A. I.
this channel is so underrated
Ewing WAS NOT A LOSER. He had good teammates. He had good to great coaches. They just lost to teams that was better/or had momentum on thier side. You mention EWING in NY or in any NBA circles it demands RESPECT. That man played his heart out!
Great video man I really got a good perspective on Ewing , I slowdown though he was amazing and in any other era he’d help get a ring , but Jordan took 6 years out many talent players prime , and those who came in the 80s had to deal with LA , Boston , Detroit , then Chicago , it was a tough time to try and get a ring
Biggest stunt was the end of the real King of NY. If Ewing had King by his side, the NBA may have gotten it's goal, another 💍 in the biggest market. Must have been karma? NY seems cursed. Even the Nets 🤣
Fr. It would have gave the bulls problems and much better chance
I'm from south central Los Angeles but I'm a 90s Knicks fan , yea I said it 😭
Hell no just give him the credit and respect that he deserve he was definitely a game changer for ever from George Town days till the day he retired jorden was always the man to beat but also had role players the Knick’s didn’t have much he work with what he had don’t forget in 94 he played the most minutes of his career fourty plus and he didn’t have any back up players I still feel his pain also he could of left to go to the suns with barkey but he said no and stayed loyal till he got trayed 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
THANKS FOR THE SPOTLIGHT ON MY FAVORITE PLAYER. JOHN STARKS AND CHARLES OAKLEY WOULD BE GREAT TOPICS FOR YOU
One of your longest, appropriate intros...
Salute J.C.
Bernard king was the damn man. People forget about him but he was one of the best ever.
Stunted growth man I enjoy your videos bro you should have way more subscribers than this but you heading there first time I see your video I was like this brother can work on ESPN for real but the reason why I'm coming in again I like you to do Marlene otty but yeah Patrick Ewing is and will be the greatest knicks
Whatever that was with the wizards lol
Ewing is a warrior...he played through so many injuries. I think the biggest stunt was of course MJ and not having a consistent 2nd scorer/star
We love you, Patrick!
Imagine how hyped Dwight howard was....imagine all the gifts dwight had...
Now that you have that image, give him a mid-range jumper, better hands, better awareness, better footwork, more toughness and a better off-hand...that's PAtrick Ewing. It Pat Ewing came into the league in the mid-2000s like Dwight, Pat would be looked at like the next Shaq.
Always got love for Ewing. Wish he had better luck. Imagine if he somehow was a Spur with TD, PArker, Bowen, Manu, etc...instead of David Robinson.
If i analyze his whole game on both ends... i dont know if I have ever seen a player like him. He was like if you made Karl Malone a 7' center.
LeBron's best type of sidekick is low-key an athletic big who set great screens, catches every pass, rolls smartly and finishes on both sides with either hand, but can also hit pick and pop jumpers. Look in 2003, LeBron and Boozer, two young dudes, ran Pick and Roll like veterans. It was fun to watch. Then, LeBrons best sidekick in three straight playoffs was ANDERSON VAREJAO who he always hit on pick and rolls. I wish he could have played with a more dynamic big, earlier... like if Boozer stayed, if Amare went to CLE, if Bosh was more of a threat to dunk anytime on anyone, instead of mainly being a 18 foot threat in MIA.
I think LeBron's best fit out of all the historic teams to this date, in my opinion, would have been to take Steve Nash's place at PG of the Suns with Amare, Shawn, Joe Johnson, etc...if he has all those shooters and a roll man like Amare....nobody would have ever seen anything like that.
My off-topic-ass point is, Pat Ewing would have been fun to watch with LeBron. He could have tossed it to him in the post and had hiim get his own, he could have found himinside on PnRs or he could have him spread the floor with 15-20 foot jumpers
Sorry, this is what happens when youre a millenial basketball fan from Akron. You imagine what it would have been like if LeBron played with _______ or ________.
I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American. A stiff, who didn't have cable TV until I was 18, so my NBA viewing was unfortunately limited to national games, and Sonics road games.
First word: finger roll
Dope video. Is Charles barkley growth was stunted?
Pat Ewing was one of my favorite centers
Ewing on stunted. Growth. Had to check this out
I mean, name a current player avg 25, 10, and 3blks. You can't. Ewing did that over a 6 year average. Hakeem did it even more than that. These type of greats don't exist anymore.
Mark Jackson wasn’t a problem in NY, if anything they should’ve kept him and Xavier McDaniel after the 1992 season.
Riley traded Mark because he wasn't strong on defense. He wanted a PG who could defend.
Is this series about legends and the best teams who never won a championship?
Basically. Even great players have had Growth Stunts. The point is, they kept going and overcame their hurdles and became great.
It's pronounced Al-o-wishes
Came here to say this
1-Michael Jordan & Reggie Miller in the East
2- Hakeem Olajuwon in 1994
3- Injuries near the last seven years of his career
That layup Jordan hit over Ewing 😂😂😂I always imagined what that would be like if he dunked it instead
Jordan is petty 😂😂😂
Starks was solid.
I think he was better than solid but he let that block game 6 affect him. He lost some his explosiveness with a knee injury too.
Do John starks from the New York Knicks
You do know that Pat played most of the 1994-1995 season on a bad leg, right? That layup against the Pacers in the Eastern Conference Semifinals had nothing to do with heart. His leg finally gave up on him and he couldn’t get up high enough to where that would’ve been a usual dunk of Pat’s.
Big Pat!!!
Time for Barkley next
1. Jordan 2. Olajuwon (top 2 stunts)
Why he couldn’t lead the Knicks to a title can be summed up with 4 names.
Hakeem Olajuwon
Michael Jordan
Reggie Miller
Tim Duncan
Michael Jordan
Hakeem Oujawon
Reggie Miller
Tim Duncan
The last 2 names should be John Stark's and Pat Riley
Not true
Reggie Miller no
Tim Duncan nooo
As a former New Yorker, and current Knicks fan, Patrick Ewing did not win a ring because of teammates.
Patrick never had his Scottie Pippen! Personally, I think Charles Oakley was an overrated bum! We needed an enforcer who can score.
On the offensive end it was five on four basketball because Oakley's lack of offensive made it easier for teams to double team Patrick.
Furthermore, the Knicks should have kept Rod Strickland and traded Mark Jackson because Strickland having the ball in his hand would have made the Knicks a more balanced team and play at a faster pace instead of waiting for Ewing to get in the post on every possession. It's hard to win in the playoffs when you rely on one person to win games for 20 years.
No knock on Mark Jackson but he was too slow and a defensive liability
Could you imagine the league, bask turn, not being so committed to one team....
Like Ewing going to Indiana for rik smits?
First thing that comes to mind: Bulls, Cavs, 76ers and Knicks.
I don't know about the not enough around him stuff during his prime stuff, that really is a Jordan thing. The Knicks mid 90s were loaded and good enough to get to the Finals. Starks was no scrub and could catch fire at any moment. Derek Harper was solid, Greg Anthony. Their front court was crazy strong. Always loved Anthony Mason. Ewing will always be considered a winner even with no chip.
Thanks for putting respect on Pat Ewing but you forgot to mention he released his own independent shoe before everyone as well :) #EwingFan4ever
It was a damn shame what happened to him...he never had a legitimate shot when he was in his prime..MJ shattered a lot of dreams,and EWING was a victim... which goes to show why people considered MJ the GOAT..but I digress.. because the KNICKS were just dumb..how you have a generational talent in the mecca of basketball and not give this man the tools to beat teams back then?..the man was a WARRIOR who deserved better...much respect to MR.EWING..he is still a winner..and his story is a testement of heart and determination and shows why he is a great coach..
Ewing kept losing for the exact same reasons Malone, Stockton, Barkley, and many other superstars never won a ring. Ewing is not more of a loser than anybody else. he never had another great player in his team. there is 30 teams and only one can win the title at the end of the playoffs. one team win, every other lose. so when a single team won 6 in 8 years, there is not a lot of room for all the other superstars....
But unlike all the other names you mentioned Pat played with the least amount of talent for a superstar, possibly of all time.
Ewing doesn’t get the credit for doing basically what AI & LeBron did in 2001 & 2007, but for his entire career.
@@johnnyblingg Excellent takes on your part. What AI and Lebron did for those seasons you mentioned were amazing NBA moments. Ewing although he fell short of that coveted ring, had amazing moments throughout his career. I think fans almost forget that an old Patrick Ewing was still able to match or even exceed a prime Alonzo Mourning statistically when the Knicks took "3-out-of-4" of those playoff series against those Miami Heat teams from 1997-to-2000. Those Miami Heat teams were considered superior to the NY Knicks on paper.
@@toddsands6000 That’s why I don’t get the Ewing slander. If anything I think for what he’s done for his career he should be ranked ahead of some of his peers. Like to me, Ewing is better than David Robinson, Karl Malone, Stockton, and (even tho he’s my favorite player) Chuck, etc.
Ewing brought NY to the Finals twice and he did it with less talent than The Dream, and is tied with Stockton and Malone for Finals appearances, which is also 1 more than Barkley. And i can’t reiterate it enough, Ewing kept the Knicks competitive for almost his entire NY career, with virtually no real talent, at least offensively.
The best center of the 90s to me were Hakeem, Shaq, and Ewing. Tim Duncan saved David Robinson’s career.
Man the Knicks either had tooo many power forwards or too many point guards Ewing didn’t win because he didn’t team up with Reggie Miller and Barkley to take on the bulls lol man them Hoyas team were tough what’s crazy is I always thought Georgetown was a hbcu because of the basketball team lol I was a kid
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Patrick Ewing had the best one hand jam thank you ma'am dunks of all time if anyone can prove me wrong more power to you but I can't say I wasn't a next friend I was at Seattle supersonic fan all because of my stunning growth Shawn Kemp and only reason why Shawn Kemp was my favorite basketball player of all time is because I used to play 101 with a good friend of mine that used to beat my ass because I was fresh off the boat from Jamaica didn't know what basketball was but over the time and years I became a beast so my story goes when we still have the upper deck basketball cards we used to play 101 and I've told him the first player that I pick from open the upper deck will be my favorite player and sure enough it was Shawn Kemp
Can you do episode on Greg Monroe why is he out of Nba?
Patrick Ewing = Knicks
We can't wait to watch the case of Jerry's bayless
As a Knick fan from that era, when we needed him the most he failed us. If they would have beaten Houston for the ring, Derek Harper was the one who was putting that work in. Second chance against the Spurs sadly his body failed him, eventually failing us.
And he was shitty teammate. He could check his team but his team couldn't check him. That's buh'shit.
No roses for him only advice, "YOU GOTTA DUNK THAT SHIT!!!
Let's go Knicks!!!
I had no idea he lost to Michael in college too as I was to young but I do remember him in New york...damn mj stop so many greats from winning
9:36
1995 Eastern Conference Semifinals
Pacers Vs Knicks
What? Ewing didn’t have small hands. What the hell is this guy talking about?
🧏🏿♂️ hey Tom he was tryna say Aloysius, pronounced A low wishes but instead said A loy zius....wording truly is hard 🤷🏾♂️🤣
His is a joke right!!! Next we will see a Michael Jordan stunted growth or a Shaquille o'neal stunted growth. Patrick was a beast and carried that franchise. He is a hall of famer for a reason
In 95, the knicks didnt lose to the pacers in the eastern finals.. I think they lost in the second round.. coz the eastern finals was between the pacers and orlando.. the latter making it to the finals
Bro, do Tracy McGrady 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾