@O g I mean, that's a really dumb explanation. Like it's obvious that they just really don't want to implement 3.5mm ports, for whatever reason, but that excuse is total bs
You can't judge what customers what by Z's bitching and or the couple hundred people who comments here. Grado's knows most of their users could careless about the cable and I'm sure that's why they haven't changed it.
Having owned and loved/hated a few sets of Grados the thing that annoys me the most is that over time the cables will inevitably detach from the headphones requiring internal re-soldering AND/OR the horseshoe shaped plastic thingy that allows the actual headphone to swivel breaks. I wrote Grado who sent me a new pair (thingys not headphones) for free. After owning a few different much more expensive headphones and amps I came to the conclusion that for my needs a set of inexpensive and easy to drive SR60 are all I really need. That being said those Hemps are really tempting.
The first thing that you want to do on any grado is mod it to a removable cable by adding (2) 3.5mm jacks. Everything else, including the pads is totally fine.
I refuse to buy a pair until their wire becomes detachable. It doesn't matter how good a wire is, it's always going to eventually break and I'm really bad with soldering. Ah, and they made the cables worse, lovely.
I’m currently listening to this through my SR 60 X and I have to agree.. The thick braided cable is absolutely annoying. Mine weren’t aligned properly so if I try straightening out the cable block it flips both drivers to the right. The cable will painfully catch your facial/long hair if aren’t careful. Other than that, I still recommend them. I’ll definitely plan on pad swapping these in the near future.
Thank you for showing me the shipibo audio mods, they've been a true game changer for me and finally allowed me to use all day! Their pads are super soft and in combination with their aluminum gimbals and padded leather headbands make Grado's extremely comfortable. They're called nyczaj audio now by the way, thank god for audio community for doing what Grado should be doing in terms of comfort!
I've been waiting almost a decade for an excuse to buy a grado after listening to my roommate's pair. This company cannot get out of it's own way apparently, I'll continue to wait.
I would buy a pair of gardos too, however I want to enjoy my headphones and I think 60% at least of the reason you buy headphones is for how they feel on your head. So until grado makes something that doesn't have workmanship out of 1980 I'll pass, maybe one day.
The old SR60 wires were definitely prone to falling apart after some fair usage. I went through multiple cables, and I've never used headphones very regularly in my life either. They would get connectivity issues in them randomly and need to be taped in loops at certain angles to hold a connection too often. This probably happens from occasionally getting run over with a chair and/or stepped on, and maybe there is no escaping this type of damage besides being more careful. My biggest pet peeve with braided cables is that over time, they rub along my desk's veneer covering right angle edges and wear them down.
I had the same thought recently - "what the hell happened to Grado's quality"? I did a little research and it turns out the grandson (or something of the sort) took over the business 5-7 years ago and the weird decisions followed. Maybe someone with a bit better head for this business will step in and right the ship. In the meantime, stick with the Grados you have and hope for the best.
@@MrAhuraMazda Yup. The drivers are good, not as good as those in my SR225 set imo but yes, they're better than a lot of what is on the market. However, that is only a portion of the total equation. Build quality, convenience, toughness, comfort and wearability - all those things add up to the ultimate experience of a portable listening device like headphones. There are a lot of options out there that get all those things right and for me at least, I reach for my Bowers & Wilkins PX7s (for example) way more often than I do the Grados - simply because the total package is vastly better.
@@robbetts Steve Guttenberg nailed it with Grado. Theyre so immediate. Everything is very forward, yet they somehow retain soundstage. Once your ear adjusts its hard to go back to other headphones, and the X Series just lops off that notorious 2K sizzle and adds some much needed warmth. I havent looked at another headphone since I gor these 7 months ago. When I put on "better" headphones they sound either sterile, robotic or veiled. Grados sound like a shitty old speaker your grandfather had in his basement but arent shitty at all but actually made when things were made right. I learned this years ago when I hadnt listened to my $80 SR60E in a year and then I was listening to a symphony on them and thought "Jesus these are so good, even compared to $1500 set they have something no other headphone has." I will give credit where credit is due, the 6XX is a BEAST. That one particular headphone is also ridiculous in this category, but its so warm and caramelly compared to the Grados crunchy rock. Pretty good pair if you have both.
@@AD-ll4iz the 80x doesn't add warmth (which is good for me cuz I don't like warmth). But the previous ear piercing sizzle from the 80e is gone, so it's nicer this time around.
I have a pair of 60x and I enjoy them a lot despite the poor build/lack of detachable cables. They’re like the only headphone that are light on my head. Anyway I like how he uses Tank opening from cowboy bebop
These always looked to me like they had electric cable that you can get at the hardware store and it's cheaper than specialized headphone cable. Now they've put braided nylon cable sleeve on it lmao
Here is the deal with Grado, I grew up with Grado. It was my first audiofile headphone. Back then, attached cables were a thing with most cheap headphones and it was super common for a headphone back then in that category. I don't have an issue with the build or cable at all. At this price point. After diving back into the audiophile world more hard core and listening to people OBSESSE over cables is new to me and quite frankly out of touch with reality with a can of this price point. Yes it is nice to have a good cable, but holy fuck people you lost your minds about the dam cable! Yes everyone moved on, yes I would like to see detachable cables. But for the love of music it is not THAT big a deal! I listened to Grados since the orignal SR80's were around. I somehow survived and thought that were great and have so many fond memories of them. All stock. They lasted for 10 years before getting utterly destroyed by the dog. They are only a $100 people and sound fuckin fantastic for the money. They can be your last headphone if you are normal person and don't want to dive into audiophilia. The expensive ones, I'd like to see them do better. But quite frankly it never bothered me enough to complain. It's a fuckin Grado, they are retro. They look cool and sound great. They don't fall apart and you are not taking them to battle with you. If you really want there is a plethora of aftermarket options available and people mod them to taste. And that is also just part of the Grado sub culture. You make them your own. But I've never bother to go past cables or pads.
"I am a big proponent of being able to see from behind... Wallpaper in the description!" I had SR325i back in the day. No issues with the band because the pads would make my ears bleed long before the top of my head got tired. They devolped the notorious rattle, too. Has that been fixed? 💎💎💎💎 I have LCD-4 now and the stock silver plated cable had a TINY bit more resolution than my Periapt cable. So I reterminated it in XLR and used purple heat-shrink, for Zeos.
This is a monumental upgrade from my 80e. God for this kind of sound I can totally be chilling. The stereo system is now in storage and USB C DAC attached. Memorex commercial anyone?
Oh my Science, I finally understood the problem. The reason Grado does not implement detachable wires got so obvious now with this new wire-change on the "x". It is not incompetency as I thought, they are just batshit crazy.
I can spend $400 CAD ($300 USD). I've had 80/80i (i was terrible). Which wired Grado should I buy? I've read all the reviews and still can't make up my mind. I can buy a used 80x right now for $125 CAD or save another $200 for used hemp, new 325x or used RS2e. No amp or DAC, just an android. Also found an MS1 for only $40.
I picked these up the day they released on the rumor that the hemp's driver was being standardized across their updated line. Sadly, this is not true at all, and the infinitesimal QoL changes don't justify a $20 price increase.
Since you asked, my ears give a fuck about the wire only if the wire makes noise when I move. Braided cables tend to do that more often, and it's infuriating. Who wants to put on music and sit completely motionless to avoid wire noise? Not me, that's who.
Is there an actual reason for not having a removable connection for the headphone cord? I'm sure it adds a small cost, but I'm sure most people would pay for a replaceable cable.
that depend on what kind of math you care to use. I have the PS500 retail like for $595 vs X 60 at like a $100. the cost difference in material it's like maybe two $2.
Got the SR80s and from the moment I unwrapped them, I've absolutely hated the wire and the rest feels just as cheap. The wires are stiff and just always in the way. I've seen 30$ headphones with way better feeling build quality.. I too did the pad swap and though it made them even sound better and be more comfortable. I haven't just them after about a mouths time, because I hate the wire...
I play with pads all the time.... I really like the default grado pads. They get really soft with time and give them am "intimate" feel to the sound. I like the big 1000' pads, the in-betweens, the weird sheepskin ones I got from china that went on my custom planar magnetic modded 80x's... The OG pads just do something very pleasant that I quite like. Cable can die in a fire though.
You've noted not too many watch your whole videos. I do. Even if I'm not all that interested in the product. Maybe I need help. 🤔😇 Re. Grado will they every offer balanced cables?
Both the 60e and 60X kick the shit out the Koss. I have 3 pairs of Koss' and theyre phenomenal but theyre not on the same level of detail. Its not close. KPH is more like a portable SHP9500.
Fun video, it's never the wire! I have the SR125 and love those cans.... Paired with the Little dot MKIII and the little dot DAC 1. Any thoughts on those combos? I also have the HD650 paired the same way.... Using the G series pads makes it feel like you have speakers on your shoulders rather than headphones on your head..
I have the Hemps and PS500e. If you take the pads off the hemps and put them on the PS500e you have the best Grado made. All the good tone of the hemps with the detail and clarity of the PS500e.
I love my old ass SR 125 from the 90s. The cable is super annoying, but I came up with an easy fix, just flip your drivers over and route both cables over to one side and now I have a one-sided cable and I’m just holding all the loops up with zip ties. It looks Jenkee, but who cares
How about gw100? Marketed as their "wireless" headphone. How is the sound? As I remembered from a long long time ago, they didn't sound as good as the 80s or 60s. But I am not sure perhaps I was just not good at listening back then.
They gave a bs excuse about the cables being best for the grade sound which is just stupid considering how little if at all of a difference cables make to the sound
so would everybody else even those who don't own Grado. entery level to TOTL isn't that much more to build because they have to build it anyway. Now material cost only real issue increase
How much is the balanced cable mod typically for the grados, just working it out say 130 hp’s + 50 mod + 30 decent pads ignor new cable, so say 210 ish and crap headband, zero isolation and suddenly I’m thinking these had better be way better than Sundaras
I'll always put up with Grado's flaws because they're a historic company, assembled in America, and priced so well (at least the low-end models, no excuse for the > $1k models). But legit they could charge $50-100 more just for better pads and a detachable cable and it would be so worthwhile.
Agreed. I'd pay that. I did pay that actually (paid a modder $80 to mod them to dual ended 3.5mm sockets.) Then I bought a hart audio cable. I'm expecting my Grados back with the mod on Friday.
Oooh my I need these now I have the grado sr60e bought then second hand but I think I'll buy these new maybe I'll wait for black Friday, if they even do sales, do they do sales?
I'm looking for good on ear headphones that would fit similar to Gradeos as I don't like big bulky headphones. Any suggestions for that? They have to be open. Currently using Koss Porta Pro untill I find something that will be better sounding and at least as comfortable as Koss.
Plugged the sr80x in to my laptop and it sounded shit, plugged it in to my phone and sounded great. Plenty of bass for hip hop too. Seriously had some super bassy daft punk and drake and it just rumbles with 0 distortion to the drums using the g1000 earpads I also quite like the cable apart from the fact you can’t change them. I get no sound transmission to my ears from the cable scraping against things, it’s also very supple and feels like it’s bombproof
Grado should just get rid of those smaller foam pads in use the bigger wider ones for all their headphone at least....the wire however as many of us know is a different story and one they chose to ignore
Will never buy Grado again because they refuse to address the build. The fact that people defend spending more than $50 on them is laughable, even if they sound good.
I went straight to Grado SR325x and it sounds fantastic. My very first Grado and well I think I could end here in 2021 for Grado genre. Love the Jazz vocals / Rock.
I was too late and they weren't making the sr80e anymore. I had to spend MORE money for a cable that was worse. for some reason, they bumped up the price. For the X series. They still sound amazing though and I still recommend them
@@bellavlahakos6340 He complained the sr60x and 80x have thick cable wait until he sees the sr125x,225x,325x cable got thicker and heavier.Its just like a vaccum cleaner cable on Steroids
Also the reason why they don't make them expensive is because of people like me who would never buy something over 100 dollars. Grado wants everyone to experience HiFi Brooklyn sound. Having their sound accessible to everyone is something I can appreciate from Grado.
I have to say this, sheesh! They are SUPPOSED TO be bent to your head, so they adapt to everyone's unique head shape. Other headphones use complex mechanisms that would probably increase the price or decrease the durability. Grado probably do this to cut costs.
@@saamo1423 thanks. I should have mentioned I’ve had sr60 and sr80e and like Grado sound, but getting the itch to upgrade, but have heard people same the 60 to the 325 sound the same.
Greate review on the new SR60/80 may get a pair and experiment with the different earcup cushions 😊. I have watched many of your videos, and no offence but think you probably have a wide and tall head, as you have had to extend the Grado earcup rods to their maximum length and widen the band. I would say 75% of your viewers and even 75% of headphone enthusiasts do not need to bend the hell out of their expensive headphones. I feel sorry for all the people who loan their pride and joy headphones to you 😅. But it makes for great entertainment on your channel, and guess it is your signature move 😊
I got the Shipibo pads and I honestly don't understand why anyone would want more bass than that.. I'm not saying it's too much, but it's enough.. It's enough with punk/metal and it's enough with rap... People are obsessed with bass as if the quality of a soundsystem or headphone is only determined by this. Bass should sound good, not loud.. And I'm saying this as a (kind of) bass player..
Someone brought up over on DMS's channel that the only difference between the 60x and the 80x is that the 80x has better matched drivers. That's it. They are otherwise exactly the same.
@@EGxSenSei I'm not an audio expert but I definitely give it 2 thumbs up. An appropriate amount of bass, good top end. I mostly listen to Vapourwave, with some Rock and metal and it works out well for those. Also solid for movies and games I find.
@@EGxSenSei Well as a quick update, they actually sounded pretty great, but only 4 months later and the right driver is giving me faint to no sound. If they made the cable feel like utter crap for durability it failed miserably. It isn't like I ran them hard either, they mostly sat on my computer, or occasionally plugged them into a mini hi-fi system for the odd album on CD or cassette.
A small company being so deaf towards customers for a rather easy feature (detachable wires) is mesmerizing.
@O g I mean, that's a really dumb explanation. Like it's obvious that they just really don't want to implement 3.5mm ports, for whatever reason, but that excuse is total bs
You can't judge what customers what by Z's bitching and or the couple hundred people who comments here. Grado's knows most of their users could careless about the cable and I'm sure that's why they haven't changed it.
@@error4159 Literally everyone I know owns grado's talks shit about the cables. It's an objectively bad feature
@@MadLustEnvy Yep, I own a pair of 80's and the lack of a detachable cable has never bothered me.
@@error4159 SR 60e user here, I love them, hate the cable.
Having owned and loved/hated a few sets of Grados the thing that annoys me the most is that over time the cables will inevitably detach from the headphones requiring internal re-soldering AND/OR the horseshoe shaped plastic thingy that allows the actual headphone to swivel breaks. I wrote Grado who sent me a new pair (thingys not headphones) for free.
After owning a few different much more expensive headphones and amps I came to the conclusion that for my needs a set of inexpensive and easy to drive SR60 are all I really need. That being said those Hemps are really tempting.
Exactly what I thought when I bought my 80x.. Love the sound, hate the built.. Still these are my fourth Grado, so I am hooked..
The first thing that you want to do on any grado is mod it to a removable cable by adding (2) 3.5mm jacks. Everything else, including the pads is totally fine.
First I thought "huh that cable change doesn't seem so bad" till you scratched the cable and I instantly understood.
so microphonic :(
I refuse to buy a pair until their wire becomes detachable. It doesn't matter how good a wire is, it's always going to eventually break and I'm really bad with soldering.
Ah, and they made the cables worse, lovely.
I’m currently listening to this through my SR 60 X and I have to agree.. The thick braided cable is absolutely annoying. Mine weren’t aligned properly so if I try straightening out the cable block it flips both drivers to the right. The cable will painfully catch your facial/long hair if aren’t careful. Other than that, I still recommend them. I’ll definitely plan on pad swapping these in the near future.
Can you review it lil bit how it sound like?
@@EGxSenSeiso are you brain damaged or what
Thank you for showing me the shipibo audio mods, they've been a true game changer for me and finally allowed me to use all day! Their pads are super soft and in combination with their aluminum gimbals and padded leather headbands make Grado's extremely comfortable. They're called nyczaj audio now by the way, thank god for audio community for doing what Grado should be doing in terms of comfort!
I've been waiting almost a decade for an excuse to buy a grado after listening to my roommate's pair. This company cannot get out of it's own way apparently, I'll continue to wait.
dude just buy it, youll love it!
Yeah dude they’re good. I love em. You’ll be a fan even with the faults this guy claims.
Pick up a used custom pair, don't give Grado your money.
I would buy a pair of gardos too, however I want to enjoy my headphones and I think 60% at least of the reason you buy headphones is for how they feel on your head. So until grado makes something that doesn't have workmanship out of 1980 I'll pass, maybe one day.
Buy a pair of Sennheiser HD 58X. Great headphones that are reasonably priced.
The old SR60 wires were definitely prone to falling apart after some fair usage. I went through multiple cables, and I've never used headphones very regularly in my life either. They would get connectivity issues in them randomly and need to be taped in loops at certain angles to hold a connection too often. This probably happens from occasionally getting run over with a chair and/or stepped on, and maybe there is no escaping this type of damage besides being more careful.
My biggest pet peeve with braided cables is that over time, they rub along my desk's veneer covering right angle edges and wear them down.
my ears care about the wires when they rub up against my shirt and i get that nasty wire sound
Microphonic
@@stuka78 man that's a good word ty dood
Ahh yes, rotating the headphones with the wire, my most wanted feature.
I had the same thought recently - "what the hell happened to Grado's quality"? I did a little research and it turns out the grandson (or something of the sort) took over the business 5-7 years ago and the weird decisions followed. Maybe someone with a bit better head for this business will step in and right the ship. In the meantime, stick with the Grados you have and hope for the best.
Grados quality has never been better. These X drivers are outstanding and blow anything Hifiman or Sennheiser is doing under $700 out of the water.
@@MrAhuraMazda Yup. The drivers are good, not as good as those in my SR225 set imo but yes, they're better than a lot of what is on the market. However, that is only a portion of the total equation. Build quality, convenience, toughness, comfort and wearability - all those things add up to the ultimate experience of a portable listening device like headphones. There are a lot of options out there that get all those things right and for me at least, I reach for my Bowers & Wilkins PX7s (for example) way more often than I do the Grados - simply because the total package is vastly better.
@@robbetts Steve Guttenberg nailed it with Grado. Theyre so immediate. Everything is very forward, yet they somehow retain soundstage. Once your ear adjusts its hard to go back to other headphones, and the X Series just lops off that notorious 2K sizzle and adds some much needed warmth. I havent looked at another headphone since I gor these 7 months ago. When I put on "better" headphones they sound either sterile, robotic or veiled. Grados sound like a shitty old speaker your grandfather had in his basement but arent shitty at all but actually made when things were made right. I learned this years ago when I hadnt listened to my $80 SR60E in a year and then I was listening to a symphony on them and thought "Jesus these are so good, even compared to $1500 set they have something no other headphone has."
I will give credit where credit is due, the 6XX is a BEAST. That one particular headphone is also ridiculous in this category, but its so warm and caramelly compared to the Grados crunchy rock. Pretty good pair if you have both.
gw 100
@@AD-ll4iz the 80x doesn't add warmth (which is good for me cuz I don't like warmth). But the previous ear piercing sizzle from the 80e is gone, so it's nicer this time around.
The sr80z’s will use conduit instead if wires
haha-you funny bruh
Don't give em ideas :X
I hate the Grado wires too, but love the Grado sound. GW100 is a pretty awesome solution.
What is the best sounding pads for grado gw???
I have a pair of 60x and I enjoy them a lot despite the poor build/lack of detachable cables. They’re like the only headphone that are light on my head. Anyway I like how he uses Tank opening from cowboy bebop
How does it sound bro?
sparkly
These always looked to me like they had electric cable that you can get at the hardware store and it's cheaper than specialized headphone cable.
Now they've put braided nylon cable sleeve on it lmao
Here is the deal with Grado, I grew up with Grado. It was my first audiofile headphone. Back then, attached cables were a thing with most cheap headphones and it was super common for a headphone back then in that category. I don't have an issue with the build or cable at all. At this price point. After diving back into the audiophile world more hard core and listening to people OBSESSE over cables is new to me and quite frankly out of touch with reality with a can of this price point. Yes it is nice to have a good cable, but holy fuck people you lost your minds about the dam cable! Yes everyone moved on, yes I would like to see detachable cables. But for the love of music it is not THAT big a deal! I listened to Grados since the orignal SR80's were around. I somehow survived and thought that were great and have so many fond memories of them. All stock. They lasted for 10 years before getting utterly destroyed by the dog. They are only a $100 people and sound fuckin fantastic for the money. They can be your last headphone if you are normal person and don't want to dive into audiophilia.
The expensive ones, I'd like to see them do better. But quite frankly it never bothered me enough to complain. It's a fuckin Grado, they are retro. They look cool and sound great. They don't fall apart and you are not taking them to battle with you. If you really want there is a plethora of aftermarket options available and people mod them to taste. And that is also just part of the Grado sub culture. You make them your own. But I've never bother to go past cables or pads.
m8, your videos are a legendary experience
"I am a big proponent of being able to see from behind... Wallpaper in the description!"
I had SR325i back in the day. No issues with the band because the pads would make my ears bleed long before the top of my head got tired. They devolped the notorious rattle, too. Has that been fixed?
💎💎💎💎 I have LCD-4 now and the stock silver plated cable had a TINY bit more resolution than my Periapt cable. So I reterminated it in XLR and used purple heat-shrink, for Zeos.
This is a monumental upgrade from my 80e. God for this kind of sound I can totally be chilling. The stereo system is now in storage and USB C DAC attached. Memorex commercial anyone?
Can you elaborate a bit more on what makes them a monumental upgrade over the 80e's, which I currently have and enjoy.
Z, the reviews and sound demos are great, but when are you going to use the toothbrush scene from Nisemonogatari as one of the tracks in your demos?
The shipibo ear pad link doesnt work. Did the company change names to NYCZAJ??
Yes
Yes, they did!
Oh my Science, I finally understood the problem. The reason Grado does not implement detachable wires got so obvious now with this new wire-change on the "x". It is not incompetency as I thought, they are just batshit crazy.
theyre waiting til Triple x to add a removable cable since youre gonna be shoving something in and out
"Oh my Science" is the most cringe thing I have ever read.
@@hansa9159 Yeah, oh my darling would've been better.
@@hansa9159 it's the kind of thing redditors said in like 2007
"Oh my Science" lmao
Great review!! I hope to see the 325x review in the future too!
Love a good Zeos attached wire rant....
It’s evolving, just backwards🤗
Like human start accepting LGBTQ+
@@zaimkarii1756 Go back to your cave.
@@aq9095 science matters guy. 2 genders. Thats it. Go back to your Antifa rally you pop your head out of your moms basement to attend
I can spend $400 CAD ($300 USD). I've had 80/80i (i was terrible). Which wired Grado should I buy? I've read all the reviews and still can't make up my mind. I can buy a used 80x right now for $125 CAD or save another $200 for used hemp, new 325x or used RS2e. No amp or DAC, just an android. Also found an MS1 for only $40.
Z! Any eta when you will be reviewing the 325x? Waiting to hear your review before pulling the trigger and purchasing. 🎧 🙏🏽 ✨
I picked these up the day they released on the rumor that the hemp's driver was being standardized across their updated line. Sadly, this is not true at all, and the infinitesimal QoL changes don't justify a $20 price increase.
Since you asked, my ears give a fuck about the wire only if the wire makes noise when I move. Braided cables tend to do that more often, and it's infuriating. Who wants to put on music and sit completely motionless to avoid wire noise? Not me, that's who.
Is there an actual reason for not having a removable connection for the headphone cord? I'm sure it adds a small cost, but I'm sure most people would pay for a replaceable cable.
It can't just be the cost. Even their flagship $1000++ headphones have the same non-detachable cables.
Hoping to see Z review the SR80 vs SR125 vs SR325 🤞🏽 🤞🏽 he gives some of the best reviews
It would be interesting to know the value of all the gear in that room
178357$
that depend on what kind of math you care to use.
I have the PS500 retail like for $595 vs X 60 at like a $100.
the cost difference in material it's like maybe two $2.
he said 25k top bc some stuff he got for free and or discount
10:00 is exactly the reason why I love Zeos
Got the SR80s and from the moment I unwrapped them, I've absolutely hated the wire and the rest feels just as cheap.
The wires are stiff and just always in the way. I've seen 30$ headphones with way better feeling build quality..
I too did the pad swap and though it made them even sound better and be more comfortable.
I haven't just them after about a mouths time, because I hate the wire...
I play with pads all the time.... I really like the default grado pads. They get really soft with time and give them am "intimate" feel to the sound. I like the big 1000' pads, the in-betweens, the weird sheepskin ones I got from china that went on my custom planar magnetic modded 80x's... The OG pads just do something very pleasant that I quite like.
Cable can die in a fire though.
Only reason I still have my sr60 is because I wanna hear them on tubes before selling.
They definitively aren't worth more than ksc75 lol.
Are you saying the KSC75 are better?
You've noted not too many watch your whole videos. I do. Even if I'm not all that interested in the product. Maybe I need help. 🤔😇 Re. Grado will they every offer balanced cables?
They do offer balance but it's an amazingly expensive upcharge
So, how do you compare these 60x to Koss KPH30i since you declared that grados are now the best open back for cheap?!?
I have both.... love both...Koss quite a lot warmer than Grado. Grado far more open and airy. But you're talking 3x the price.
Both the 60e and 60X kick the shit out the Koss. I have 3 pairs of Koss' and theyre phenomenal but theyre not on the same level of detail. Its not close. KPH is more like a portable SHP9500.
You may try and review OpenHearth OH2000. And look at other products of the brand, such as its cables
Have to ask... do you prefer the shipibo over dekoni for the grado mod?
I tried both and shipibo / nyczaj sound better for me than dekoni.
I don't understand the big problem with the old wires? The new nylon seems really bad to me, but can anyone explain differently what the issue is?
i have the 80x. love everything about them.
Hey zeos, should I buy the sr60x or he400se? I am coming from shp9500 and takstar pro 82 and I like them both.
What song genre did you listen to?
Z!!! WHEN will you review the 325s? debating between the 225 and the 325 ... but need your stamp. :)
Fun video, it's never the wire!
I have the SR125 and love those cans.... Paired with the Little dot MKIII and the little dot DAC 1. Any thoughts on those combos? I also have the HD650 paired the same way....
Using the G series pads makes it feel like you have speakers on your shoulders rather than headphones on your head..
this guy is so entertaining haha
I have the Hemps and PS500e. If you take the pads off the hemps and put them on the PS500e you have the best Grado made. All the good tone of the hemps with the detail and clarity of the PS500e.
I think I will try this and thanks. PS500
Z..I know this vid is a few months old, but have you had a chance to try the 225x? I have a set, and they're really good.
I love my old ass SR 125 from the 90s. The cable is super annoying, but I came up with an easy fix, just flip your drivers over and route both cables over to one side and now I have a one-sided cable and I’m just holding all the loops up with zip ties. It looks Jenkee, but who cares
"Poland"
it is
first time i hear of them, but they are actually from my city
the pause before "...nothing else has improved on the headphone" made me chuckle
I liked the GW 100… because it doesn’t have a wire.
How about gw100? Marketed as their "wireless" headphone. How is the sound? As I remembered from a long long time ago, they didn't sound as good as the 80s or 60s. But I am not sure perhaps I was just not good at listening back then.
Never had a grado i've liked but still watch erry Z vid.
They gave a bs excuse about the cables being best for the grade sound which is just stupid considering how little if at all of a difference cables make to the sound
You should do a video just on Grado mods
so would everybody else even those who don't own Grado.
entery level to TOTL isn't that much more to build because they have to build it anyway. Now material cost only real issue increase
there is another uoutuber who has mods for many brands.
Jason Rhys- Thomas
How much is the balanced cable mod typically for the grados, just working it out say 130 hp’s + 50 mod + 30 decent pads ignor new cable, so say 210 ish and crap headband, zero isolation and suddenly I’m thinking these had better be way better than Sundaras
I'm kind of worried the braided cable will take the finish off of my desk over time. I don't recommend bending the headband.
I mean, since it's not detachable, so it has to be thicker so that it won't broke? I guess?
I love my Grado SR335is
but the left gimbal is loose.
Anyone know where
to order replacements?
Shipibo isn't an option.
I'm looking for headphones for gaming where i could attach the vmoda boom pro.What would you recommend for $150 in 2021?
10:07 it's evolving, just backwards
Those pads are too much $. Anyone know of any alternatives?
Why not use red tape.....Red = Right?....R = R
Grado's are awesome. But I don't plan to buy more until they get their heads out of their butts with the cables.
@Zeos KPH40s or Grado whichever?
I'll always put up with Grado's flaws because they're a historic company, assembled in America, and priced so well (at least the low-end models, no excuse for the > $1k models). But legit they could charge $50-100 more just for better pads and a detachable cable and it would be so worthwhile.
Agreed. I'd pay that. I did pay that actually (paid a modder $80 to mod them to dual ended 3.5mm sockets.) Then I bought a hart audio cable.
I'm expecting my Grados back with the mod on Friday.
@@dgevert Sounds excellent. It would be amazing if they could come that way stock. Enjoy!
Oooh my I need these now I have the grado sr60e bought then second hand but I think I'll buy these new maybe I'll wait for black Friday, if they even do sales, do they do sales?
At that gauge of cable insulation one might as well go full Mogami microphone wire, at least it feels like a wet noodle made of satin
I'm looking for good on ear headphones that would fit similar to Gradeos as I don't like big bulky headphones. Any suggestions for that? They have to be open. Currently using Koss Porta Pro untill I find something that will be better sounding and at least as comfortable as Koss.
How is this compared to sr80e?
When you twisted the wire and flipped the friggin headphones, I nearly fell off my chair. Hilarious! @Z Reviews
My recommendation is don't use them if you're this upset. I mean, what are you doing while using them that you even care about the cable?
Buddy
Best review ever! 🤣
Plugged the sr80x in to my laptop and it sounded shit, plugged it in to my phone and sounded great. Plenty of bass for hip hop too. Seriously had some super bassy daft punk and drake and it just rumbles with 0 distortion to the drums using the g1000 earpads
I also quite like the cable apart from the fact you can’t change them. I get no sound transmission to my ears from the cable scraping against things, it’s also very supple and feels like it’s bombproof
Yup I felt the same way as you, I was shocked at how decent daft punk sounded on these. Obviously senns and planars sound better but come with a cost
Really wanting to know how all those Dekoni Grado pads sound with these. Velours look promising
Grado should just get rid of those smaller foam pads in use the bigger wider ones for all their headphone at least....the wire however as many of us know is a different story and one they chose to ignore
The positive thing is..now you can use the headphone for climbing.
Will never buy Grado again because they refuse to address the build. The fact that people defend spending more than $50 on them is laughable, even if they sound good.
I went straight to Grado SR325x and it sounds fantastic. My very first Grado and well I think I could end here in 2021 for Grado genre. Love the Jazz vocals / Rock.
I only have an SMSL AD18, are the 60x + pads the best I can get for around $150 max?
I was too late and they weren't making the sr80e anymore. I had to spend MORE money for a cable that was worse. for some reason, they bumped up the price. For the X series. They still sound amazing though and I still recommend them
@ yes
That wire is smooth compared to mine, running the 225x for 4 months and cable is still jank as day 1
My SR125X is very Jank like a coiled cable now 🤣
@@zaimkarii1756 same here, to the point it almost seems like it's not supposed to be straight
@@bellavlahakos6340 He complained the sr60x and 80x have thick cable wait until he sees the sr125x,225x,325x cable got thicker and heavier.Its just like a vaccum cleaner cable on Steroids
@@zaimkarii1756 can't wait to hear him complain about how stiff it is
@@bellavlahakos6340 yup
so... gw100 still the go to?
Dekoni makes gr8 pads for these now!
I just got the 60x’s today as a Christmas gift and omfg the cable is really just f’ing disrespectful
These are so great and light and portable but the cable ruins everything
Nah, I disagree. They’re absolute war weapons now.
I also got them as a Christmas gift.
Also the reason why they don't make them expensive is because of people like me who would never buy something over 100 dollars. Grado wants everyone to experience HiFi Brooklyn sound. Having their sound accessible to everyone is something I can appreciate from Grado.
I got 80s in February of 2001. Same damn pads.
I have to say this, sheesh! They are SUPPOSED TO be bent to your head, so they adapt to everyone's unique head shape. Other headphones use complex mechanisms that would probably increase the price or decrease the durability. Grado probably do this to cut costs.
I like the stock pads on the SR80x. I find the Geekria GS1000 pads to be a bit less comfortable. Neither are what I would call comfortable though.
Can someone tell me if I’m wasting money on buying sr225x or 325x over 60x or 80x? Will be using phone and no amp. Thanks.
If you don't already own a grado headphone, get the 60x
@@saamo1423 thanks. I should have mentioned I’ve had sr60 and sr80e and like Grado sound, but getting the itch to upgrade, but have heard people same the 60 to the 325 sound the same.
By now I will not just not buy Grados because of the wire, but I will not buy them because they are so ignorant to customer complaints
Are the Moondrop Variations still on your burning rig?
Greate review on the new SR60/80 may get a pair and experiment with the different earcup cushions 😊. I have watched many of your videos, and no offence but think you probably have a wide and tall head, as you have had to extend the Grado earcup rods to their maximum length and widen the band. I would say 75% of your viewers and even 75% of headphone enthusiasts do not need to bend the hell out of their expensive headphones. I feel sorry for all the people who loan their pride and joy headphones to you 😅. But it makes for great entertainment on your channel, and guess it is your signature move 😊
I got the Shipibo pads and I honestly don't understand why anyone would want more bass than that..
I'm not saying it's too much, but it's enough..
It's enough with punk/metal and it's enough with rap...
People are obsessed with bass as if the quality of a soundsystem or headphone is only determined by this. Bass should sound good, not loud..
And I'm saying this as a (kind of) bass player..
What headphones did you use for them?
@@XGamin1 SR80x
@@DrMillF Alright. Thanks.
Are there loudspeakers that have the grado sound?
Someone brought up over on DMS's channel that the only difference between the 60x and the 80x is that the 80x has better matched drivers. That's it. They are otherwise exactly the same.
Just picked up a pair of SR60xes and I am mostly enjoying it, but also very worried about the cable.
Can you review lil bit how does it sound to you?
@@EGxSenSei I'm not an audio expert but I definitely give it 2 thumbs up. An appropriate amount of bass, good top end. I mostly listen to Vapourwave, with some Rock and metal and it works out well for those. Also solid for movies and games I find.
@@EGxSenSei Well as a quick update, they actually sounded pretty great, but only 4 months later and the right driver is giving me faint to no sound. If they made the cable feel like utter crap for durability it failed miserably. It isn't like I ran them hard either, they mostly sat on my computer, or occasionally plugged them into a mini hi-fi system for the odd album on CD or cassette.