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They buffed Siegfried (a lot) [FGO JP]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2024
- AoE BTW
Chapters -
00:00 - Buff Stack
00:13 - Teamplay (Budget)
05:06 - Solo
Music used:
Indust - Arknights
Iron Blooded Theme - SD Gundam Cross Rays
The Hunter - MechWarrior
Rockin' 8 Glider mix - Air Gear
Battle Theme 9 - Divinity Original Sin
Cataclysm Main Theme - World Of Warcraft (I wish Blizzard wasn't the worst now)
Slide - Mario
Fate/Grand Order Dragon Slayer go brrrr
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![[FGO JP] Archetype Earth and Xu Fu Summoning Rolls!](/img/n.gif)
Siegf's first skill now gives +30% ATK (3 turns) +30% NP charge (and the old effect of NP gain+ is still there)
Even buffed a lot can't compete with RNGesus
well if they also buffed his np gain from 37.5 to 40 he will be the most cracked saber in the game
even when he already has the highest HP base among all sabers if im not wrong
@@pedropablotobon1017 .5 makes a huge difference ?
@@TitoVladez115 well, it can based on the game regular np gain pool and servant stats siegfried dont actually have that great np gain so is like when a servant has 49% np and you use skadi np charge and you get 100% instead of 99%.
im not an expert in the game stats but i think that how the thing works
@@pedropablotobon1017 iirc the NP gain stat has no effect on batteries.
Siegfried buff = St George buff
Georgios to Siegfried, probably: _slaps roof of Hessian Lobo using Ascalon_ *"This bad wolf is now a dragon!"*
'Tis a drake... they are all wyverns... always have been... NOW CHARGE!
It's a bad dragon. If you know you know
"Nice healthbar you have there..."
*Activates buffs*
"Would be a shame..."
*Makes opponent a dragon*
"If something happened to it..."
If it you were a dragon
-sees dog
thou art a dragon
Okay, this isn't about Siegfried, but my god, for a year one, Georgios is soo tightly packed that for nearly seven years and counting, he didn't got ANY buff soo far.
Or they have zero idea on what they could add on Georgios to make him better than he already is... Solid skillset, God-like Bond CE pretty much on par with Heracles. Our favorite photographer is truly a sight to behold.
There's nothing that they can add to him that wouldn't destroy his kit. The closest they could add is teamwide evade/invulnupon death, but that's covered by his bond CE. Any offensive buff is useless since he's more or less likely to die within 3 turns. Same with defensive buffs, since St. George is kind of a liability once his taunt is gone due to him gobbling most of the stars via his Rider wieght.
Maybe anti dragon damage. So he can go solo. He is tanky enough for a solo.
I'd love him to get an np buff with anti dragon damage maybe? That's not too broken I don't think
Maybe his guts? because almost every guts get upgraded, maybe they somehow will add star weight down to him just like Bartholomew skill? he's ridiculously solid for a 2 star
I mean, look at other busted units, Arash and Merlin... TBH Arash has completely useless second skill that doesn't REALLY do much, give maybe 1 or 2 stars, the only way I see he can be buffable without breaking the game even further is giving him extra heals, resists or crit damage/gather stuff, which won't affect his STELLA bomb gameplay but make him viable for... not dying. Merlin? No way they can buff him further... Georgios? Well, he at least won't be game-breaking with another simple upgrade. Maybe attack buff, which will go against his kit so won't change balance much except making him more viable as 2nd damage or soloist?
I like fgo's mentality of keeping old characters balanced to the game instead of just launching a new character with the exact same kit but stronger
what game that launched new chara with the exact same kit but stronger?
@@PureWhiteOrganism fgo
@@PureWhiteOrganismcough fire emblem heroes cough
@@mr4d653 ah, u mean Genshin, right?
@@mr4d653 ah, you mean genshin
That 199% np battery hurt my soul
Honako: not a dragon
Georgios: not on my watch
Sieg asks Georgio: Wait, it's all dragon?
Georgie boi: ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
He is to become Death, destroyer of dragons.
Next, I would like them to upgrade Disengage to Armor of Fafnir. Lore wise he should have that since the beginning.
Even change the heal to increase max HP since that also heals, but can be used at full health.
And maybe add debuff immunity as well...
He should also gain a damage cut buff, it it is one of the abilities of Armor of Farfnir has.
For the thematic representation of how Armor works in the lore, it could give Invul (3 times, 3 turns) and a decent Def Up (20~30% / 25~35%, 3 turns) alongside the debuff clear and heal. This _could_ be a bit too much though.
and he's gonna be disgusting like fujino but for saber version, and aoe np
"Haha, Siegfried, I've used skills 3 times, the taunt was pointless and I won't raise your NP!"
"It's ok. I didn't need that anyway."
The moment his wife appeared she turned the game from fgo to Sgo called Siegfried grand order.
While battery spam is extremely boring as adding it to many old units to help them "keep up" just makes the units they definitely won't give batteries to "fall behind" is crazy plain. But I think Siegfried is fine as it really gives him damage speed and you could go buster damage or np gain too.
I think on Siegfried and Altera it helps tremendously and fits since they are servants with simple game plans. But in Siegfried it gives him that extra Atk and charge to at least do better overall damage.
I’m just happy to have an excuse to play my favorite sabers
@@kyshowman6847 honestly it just makes altera kinda irrelevant since a 4 star works just as good as her/better in certain conditions and artoria was always better overall.
Reminds me of the Vlad situation where galtea had everything not go her way and it took making kriemhild having a 50 charge to "keep up" in this day and age. I just don't like seeing battery spam for the most part as I doubt Arjuna alter and raikou will get 50 charge to overtake Morgan and her damage as fgo won't do it. That's the thing that is annoying about battery as it makes the buster units without them completely useless and other units boring being so simple.
What should be done is how space Ishtar and musashi zerk are made for arts. Artoria and emiya for buster and okitan summer and ashiya and carren for quick where the kits are extremely unique rather than boring and one note to play.
@@ivanbluecool Endless whining!
Good thing you guys are in the minority. Hope the devs ignore you and keep improving old units
@@alispeed5095 wow you absolutely know nothing. You call it whining while not giving a single point about why it's a "good thing" and think that's an argument.
You do realize that a lot of these units that are just battery spam aren't popular or sell well just because they can spam doesn't automatically mean pay day. Please do some research before making a non argument
It's all apocrypha again where our Siegfried spam balmung against hero of charity.
siegfried is the type of servant that always spam his np everytime he can so the np battery is
a pretty good update but, now they have to give sieg an update cuz he REALLY needs one
something like NP dmg+ in his second skill or a regen can be ok.
Sieg is fine for his role. He is just a loop farmer, and he is great for that
Do they even update wellfares?
@@NHDame489 Saber lily, every version of Liz, Shiki, Chloe, Gray
Yeah
3T Arts Buff upon firing his NP, just like Muramasa has
Or make his Magecraft last for three turns and increase star absorb for his Arts Cards. Those are my ideas at least, should we get a third run of Inheritance of Glory because Sieg needs those coins like every other welfare
@@RodsRetroplays well, sieg is know for being weak in every sense except for his NP that is just INSANE so, a post dmg arts+ or his second skill that last 3 turns it's just perfect.
He really began stepping up his game when his wife came
Well, he gotta impress, you know.
maybe thats why she came
_Kinda mandatory, if you ask me._ 😏
Wow yeah that end is how it normally goes for him without those buffs. Early FGO design giving him a ton of HP but low attack.
After seeing Sieg with his power and Fran's, i think is very accurate to say Siegfried has low attack but a massive HP pool, at least canonically speaking.
Taking his cards' low hit counts into calculations, I think it's just fair.
Although not my fave, he is definitely a cool character.
I love using him sometimes when farming.
Really happy my boy Siegfried got such a great buff. I was surprised there was no demerit though, was expecting it to require stars/eat stars/decrease health/etc. And as another commenter pointed out, Siegfried does spam his NP a lot so a battery makes sense.
I'm hoping they make his Disengage skill into Armor of Fafnir, buffing the heal and either giving him 3 turns of defense up and damage cut or invul for 2 hits 3 turn and defense up to solidify his roll as a tank saber
Sumanai no longer o7
The iron blooded orphans bgm really goes along cause like, siegfried is like a giant man clad in silver.
Funny enough I'm watching that show right now.
Also uncannily fits well with apocrypha bgm
@@puenboy1 ah that's a no Brainer, cause like the very first servant we saw at exactly the start of the anime was the silver dude himself after all
Made his eyes leaving green trails of electricity or blade glowing as he swung it, voila. He ain't sumanai anymore, but FGO barbatos that slay dragon for breakfast XD
@@puenboy1 Apoc and Iron Blood share the same composer :)
He was my very first Saber along with Chevalier. It warms my heart to see him getting love.
He was my first gold servant
Phew, rolled for him purely on husbando reasons (got NP2 Merlin as spook) because I already got AoE sabers and him being actually useful after other husbando points at ppl with his Canon and yells "'tis a dragon!" is noice!
Honako... I know you have god level tier on selecting music for your vids, but darn ain't that opening segment and the outro plain blew my mind. And yes, Siegfried is now OP as he should for pretty much killing Fafnir lore wise.
Sigurd did the same and compared to other dragons fafnir isn’t that strong
@@amari7782 ..... point, still can we agree his choice of music still great as always?
@@fazadhikarizqkoswara9429 that’s a given
@@amari7782 Fafnir is quite high up there, the only dragons surpassing it are dragon gods (Yamato-no-Orochi, Vritra, Typhon, etc.) and the oldest dragonkind such as Albion. He outranks Tarasque, which is a child of Leviathan.
They're buffing him until people accept he actually stood against Karna's Vasavi Shakti for 3 whole seconds
TFW you finally have a reason to take Siegfried out his retirement home!! Real talk though, I'm happy that Siegf is being buffed in JP and NA soon, he's always lore-wise regarded highly as the best of the best Dragon slayers but he feels underwhelming even with NP++.
Always love to see Siegfried get some love!
Whoa, I really didn't expect that he can hit 280k with his np on Lobo
With double Koyan and Oberon he can go over 500k on neutral, so I wasn't surprised for that 280k.
My boy can dish some hefty damage.
There's a reason why he's called dragon slayer, back then he was super good at one thing and that one thing only, this man just blows dragon enemies like they're made of paper. And now, he now has more options.
Fate Battery Order
10:08
As someone that watches a lot of Mario Maker content on TH-cam, that’s music that you don’t want to hear.
Look at that OG right there. He just preach a dog to embrace dragonity.
Its always nice to see my first SR on the game getting buffs 🍷 Sumanai Supremacy
That 1k HP left before the third skill came back, either a mercy or a mockery from RNG lmao.
Me with a np5 Seigfried who's chilling in 2nd archive: "maybe it's time you breathed some air, also I summoned your wife here"
"Giant wolves are just dragons with fur."
-Sumanai
When Siegfried turned into Sol Badguy.
Time to give Gilgamesh a crit buff on his second skill. Does he absolutely need it? No. Would it be nice to have? Hell yes.
Maybe he needs a more differentiated ability, something like gaining stars using buster cards and increasing atk using quick cards (similar to Dioscuri's effect switch). Or apply a Buster debuff to the enemy, something less common.
@@jefffgo7154 Star gain with buster sounds really cool for Gil, maybe even np gain with red cards, since, you know, Gil is all about the red crit spam.
PS: Siegfried apologizes for that Solo not ending the way it was intended to.
"Sumanai..."
4:24 I like how Lobo tried to sync his howl with the music.
I thought I left my Lungmen Outskirt annihilation running just now...
There is a joke about it not being Armor of Fafnir somewhere in all of this, but I'm too happy that he got such a good buff!
Bruh I’ve seen so many people mad that this wasn’t AoF it’s honestly insane
@@amari7782 cause like AOF is like the the biggest thing about siegfried, I would even dare say AOF is more of a big deal compared to Balmung. As its the very proof that a simple human overcame a dragon that could destroy a singularity on its own in 1 attack. So yeah, this people have a pretty good reason to be angry.
@@vartner8051 except from a gameplay perspective what exactly will that do for him that’ll actually be impactful?
Everytime I see someone complaining about it their basically just complaining about him not getting a skill not really saying how this would help his gameplay.
Hell I’ve seen more people complain about this buff ( someone going far as to say that it destroyed his gameplay) partially because it’s not called rheingold.
From a gameplay perspective him getting that would just simply be a name change to disengage and doesn’t really fox the problems with his kit.
@@amari7782 first, destroy his gameplay? he got a solid buff of battery and a atk up, that just makes his gameplay more effective and as a bonus, more lore accurate, this dude clashed with giants when he still just a human and when he was alive, he canonically spam balmung faster than sieg.
Second: rhein gold is already his bond ce so what were they on about.
@@vartner8051 that’s what I said. I don’t know why they said his gameplay was destroyed but dude was going to multiple videos complaining about this buff. I even had someone try to say that armor of fafnir would make him a good hypothetical anchor servant but then they turn around and say he’s a bad buster farmer even with his current buff because his atk stat is bad.
But they wanted to say AoF would make him a good anchor even tho his atk would still be ass.
Like these people would rather take a “lore accurate” buff that continues to make him unusable vs a buff that’s also technically lore accurate and actually makes him useful.
For the second
Like I said they just want the skills to be called that. The messed up thing is that if they called it rheingold instead of it’s current name but kept the actual skill how it is now these people wouldn’t say a word XD
"Saved my marriage. I'm not sorry anymore."
holy shit siegfried vs the world sequel
now a servant that can reach ST damage at neutral despite being AoE and has battery & multiple NP gain buffs to facilitate using his NP frequently and can be extremely tanky due to his high health pool & chunky 5T cooldown heal (and meaty DEF up vs dragons) might seem good but consider this: disengage is vanilla. fucking mid 4* tbh barely usable
lobos so fucking smart for triple buffing when you taunted Siegfried for NP gain.
20% charge is good, but 30% is godly buff
Seeing him in apocrypha, i honestly expected him to be a 5 star
We were done dirty man, our Boi got the 4 star rating while the waifu got the 5 star cause *reasons* * sigh*
You mean Mordred right ? Kriemhild is 4 star too.
I was always baffled by Siegfried being 4 star. Apparently German equivalent to Artoria and a servant so strong they had to come up with plot reasons to limit his presence on the protag team.
Would completely decimate Mordred if she fought his servant version rather than Sieg's shapeshift.
Yet Mordred, who is just a largely inferior Artoria still sits at that 5 star rating.
@@Fenghuang0th nah, kriemhild good gurl besides she's canonically a real princess and unlike siegfried doesn't have much battle experience and only in the 20 years of her plot of vengeance did she see actual combat. So I think 4 star is narrowly fair.
And yes, apparently having meat sacks elavated your ratings oh lala
Edit: oh wait.... Mordred is somewhat flat huh..... 🤣
@@vartner8051 yeah completely agree about Kriem's rating. If it followed powerlevels, she'd be even lower for sure... Lol
@@Fenghuang0th yep, I think the very reason got to 4 was because she was able to wield Balmung, and her vengfull trait.
He was already super good. Now they cranked it upto 11
5:17 unsatisfied
As a siegfried man, I'm first!
Dangit! I just realized, while watching this, that I missed my last chance to get the Magus of Flowers mystic code!
Putting that aside, how does he do that much damage against a single target dragon!?
Attack buffs and a unique modifier basically regular attack up, buster up, special damage get multiplied by each other instead of added.
Tl;dr: varied buffs=more damage
Going off the above comment here are Siegfried's buffs vs dragons
30% Atk up
80% Anti Dragon
50% Buster Up
NP Mod increase 150% (400% is NP1 600% is NP5)
That Indust OST threw me off guard for a second. Almost thought that I accidentally un-silent my phone since I was farming CE-5.
Now I'm not so mad at the np6 one I got trying for Merlin for 2 years.
Thats my dragonslayer!
He's Seigi no Mikata afterall
I made some calcs and he now hits Dragons by 66k.
Sigurd hits them by 83k, but he only hits 1 and has no battery.
And Siegfried's damage is affected by Overcharge, so he should slightly outdamage him at OC 500%.
Love the Airgear OST you put inthere
Vibing the Arknights OST
He still doesn't have anything defensively relevant but godspeed in terms of pure damage and anti-dragon defense
He does have massive defense up against dragons
@@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub read.
Big looking forward to that songs list, love your selections
It's in the low bar
@@HonakoGreen Thank yooou!
All those years. We waited, and we got it (not really yet, thou). It's insane how he went from the wrost sr saber to good in general, but an absolute destroyer when fighting dragons. Too bad we have to wait 2 years (lol, I may be dead until then, but I must see my lvl 90 max fou'ed sumanai get actually strong).
For me the worst SR Saber was D'eon, sorry. When I needed Taunter I simply used Mash, Georgius and Leonidas, recently even Gong. Sumanai at least killed Dragons efficiently and had a good NP gain.
Imagine if he could also generate more than like 2 stars per turn while still having all this stuff he already has
now THAT would be some good shit
Video about siegfried exisists.
*people
Georgios is such a great servant
Sieg was my first 4☆ that I ever got, of course excluding the starter servant. And oh boy was I disappointed in him back then. Almost no dmg and the only even viable place for him is against dragons? I quickly dumped him away. And now after a few years I have him np 3. This was one of those servants that I hated getting.
But finally, finally I can feel that my sq was not wasted. Now I just need to wait for 2 years...
Same my starter servant was Stheno and my 1st 4* out of general pool was Siegfried hated how low his dmg was but the funny thing is that I kept using my Stheno for like half the story even though she wasn't better than him , I loved my girl Stheno and after I maxedy Siegfried and did his rankups and interludes I started using him again . This buff is really nice but he's close to reaching bond 10 so no farming with him isn't something I'd do with him nowadays
@@thereseavanastrea4662 I myself specifically made new accounts until I got Hercules for my starter so I could dominate as much of the early game as I could. So I didn't really find almost any other servants useful that I had at the time. From the winter of 2019 when I started playing, I progressed through the story with only my Herc, Siegfried and some other free 1-3☆ servants, for 7 months.
Until I heard that a really good servant was coming up, caster skadi. At the time I had almost no idea how anything still worked and I only knew that 3 buster chain go boom. So I used my sq and got skadi and saber lancelot, which would become a new cornerstone of my account. And to this day, he is the only good saber I have.
6 months after skadi, I got Parvati and Kama when I understood that I have no use for quick support if I have no good quick servants.
Remainder of the year I spent my sq to get alter arjuna and merlin. Now I also have a buster setup. And then, I finally got my Herc bond 10. He had done his work and he finally got to rest and Arjuna would take on his legacy.
Then, this april, I got my first ever Waver, thanks to the 5☆-ticket.
Well, now I have only one hole to fill in my support collection, which is arts support caster. And the one I'm aiming for is caster Artoria. If you are aiming for her too, good luck.
This became kinda long for some reason, but hopefully it proved somewhat fun to read.
Also, I see that you are a fellow Re:Zero enjoyer as well. Hopefully we'll get some kind of an announcement for a new season this year, would be a blast after (maybe) succesfully getting Artoria.
It's like this buff was made for someone like me.
And don't forget to unlock the starting charge append skill for the big man, give him any 50% starting charge CE and you'll fire Balmung on turn 1 without the help of any support
I actually got him when I tried to get Merlin. I had the plans to keep him, since I like him (also them pecs) and it seem it was a REALLY good choice
My np3 siegfried will be waiting for this update in NA.
That Warcraft music goes hard
Finally siegfried is actually better against others
That 199% tho
If I can't make him useful now, so no one can
Now I'm glad I got spooked with NP5 Siegfried.
Meanwhile Mordred is crying in a corner cause seigfried does more damage than her to artorias even with her niche
Well, Pendragons aren't really dragons, unless...
I kinda missed the Apocrypha edits you edit for Noble Phantasms.
That dragon solo wtf
Ibo theme? Is it because he is fighting lobo a wolf and barbatos has a form called lupus meaning wolf?
What is your opinion on this buff?
Is it enough?
Is Siegfried the best 4* AoE saber in the game?
Will you rank him higher in your tier list?
Imo, he is doing pretty well now. His skills aren't bad now even outside of killing dragons. That 30% charge is especially nice.
However, he's still got awful base attack and a lot of his power is locked behind killing dragons, which will require team and in battle set up to get going. Also, doesn't have a dodge for emergency situations. Overall, he's doing pretty good for himself and can be quite menacing when a photographer is with him.
He's completely serviceable if you're set on using him at lvl 80. Probably one of the top 4 star AOE sabers.
Actually I'd argue since his skill numbers are actually quite amazing (to compensate for low attack), he really gains a lot from his stat increases in grailing. My Siegfried right now is sitting at 15k/20k HP (total) with a maxed out black grail and he's my main farmer and challenge quests saber in spite of having many 5 star alternatives. He's gotten me through all the content.
He is also very compatible with double Koya and Oberon now, as both of the firepower skills he has are 3t and 5 cool down, which means you can double stack that shit. I'd say his synergy with that setup is better than most, which is a big deal for a team oriented game.
As someone pointed out in reddit with calcs Siegfried (max. ascension, max. reg. Fou, neutral att. & class) NP sits now at 24706. Second only to Saber Alter in the 4* rarity, just a nudge higher than Suzuka. If he drops that against Dragons though it reaches 66706, pretty much blowing every Saber out of the water except Musashi and Sigurd who are ST.
How does this affect Siegfried's position on the 4-star tier list? Does this make him A+ now? I am now seriously considering whether to grail him to 90 and make him the main Single-target Saber for challenge quest.
I guess he's more like a last resort character now if for some chance your entire team gets wiped
Siegfried goes brrr mwahahaha
Siegfried is a cool guy
lord have mercy they gave him a battery.
air gear.... now thats nostalgic
There will come a day Stheno have a buff like him.
Let's see if I can get him to lvl 120 on NA before this buff hits
Even More damage!
Good battery buff, now give us the AU mah man Siegfried deserved Lasagna
Does that means I have to stop sleeping on this spook master? ;_; okay he's lvl 80 and NP5, might as well put him to use. (But he will work hard....)
Ok, I am having a stroke.
They did one dragon slayer good and the other dirty but the balance is the other is way hotter and is in an NP with his wife while the other fights her wife
is georgios dragon trait np 3 turns or 5 turns?
im asking this because my 2 month main acc don't have georgios and im mad abt it...
Wht you are saying is now he work normal because before this it was so bad 😂
Where did you fight Lancer Artoria?
arknights annihilation music in fgo? it’s more likely than you think!
Who want to use Chinese game music lol
@@aesterichwerlad3939 bro half of your stuff is made in china🗿
He didn't need buffs what are they doing lmao
But what if it was Geronimo?
"1567"
Bad dragon.
What mystic codes are used on Siegfried?
Np spam dam
how do u play fgo on pc?
is he better than Saber?
He is, this guy deals more damage than any other AOE Sabers (even 5*) when facing dragons and only beaten by Musashi and sigurd (yep, he only loses to 2 ST cause he's AOE)
Very good! Sieg is broken as fuck lorewise. He deserves to be really good.