I’m a believer ! I’ve bought just about every grip module made for the P320. This module fits my hand the best with the most natural angle for me. I love it!!
@@rdrgear i’ve only got about 700ish rounds through the silicone carbide grip with a compact size slide. Think I’m going to buy another with the laser stippling for my full size and get rid of all my other modules. I also forgot to mention I bought it with the offset extended mag release and it is in the perfect position for my hand
Right now, the Icarus Precision ACE Compact is by far my favorite grip. But I still kind of want this Because I plan on having more 320’s in the future. I really like this platform. And I love many other guns, but this is just my favorite because of the modularity.
I'm a big fan of the AXG grip on the P320 , but I love the polymer grips on the 365 and 365XL. Just depends on what I am using the gun for. Thanks for the video !
The TXG frame, tungsten infused polymer, was intended for competition shooting. They love to make their pistols nice and heavy, 34 oz roughly, so it transitions from target to target smoothly, and it soaks up recoil to a degree. Anyone who carries a 3 lb+ pistol for duty is either a gigachad or is oblivious to the TXG's intent.
I mean the staccatto is marketed as a duty weapon and isn’t far off the weight. Sig making these heavy frames, smith and Wesson making a metal framed gun, the 2011 craze it’s the way the industry is headed I feel.
@@JoshR-t9j Yup, but it started as a competition gun under STI, and is now trending back in that direction. A lot of elements were streamlined to reduce snagging, but a heavy gun is not always a comp gun, that's simply the trend. Weight just benefits a comp gun more than a duty one. Plus, some folks don't like the feel of polymer. They prefer aluminum or steel, which is naturally more heavy.
Awesome video breakdown. This grip module looks even in quality with a metal icarus percision. Thanks for featuring smaller companies that are making great products!
I’ve had mine for a few months now, and I absolutely love it. I’m a big 1911 shooter so when I saw the M1811 frame, I snatched it and I’m very happy with it.
I want this grip!!!i own one 1911 and i love everything about it except for the brass to face issue it has.will be looking into this frame and also considering getting a p320 next week.
I love Sig innovating with the FCU and swappable frames and such. However the p320 design is not what I would choose. They need to redesign their flagship striker fired pistol line. Take the p365 design and upscale it for duty use. I know they won’t do this because of the military contract, but they should. The P365 design is superior in every way.
Full dust cover only fits 1 slide length. That’s why these are not made in the full 5”’frame. If you just like the look, the the factory grip is a solid option.
@@rdrgear there is a difference between affordability and just plain over paying for something. But they can charge whatever they want for their products. Free market will reveal if it was priced correctly. Im just saying in my opinion It’s overpriced and cost prohibitive for someone who’s considering giving it a try. It’s not crazy overpriced, $50-$75 too high for the package I gave as an example.
Very interesting indeed. I used the WC grip module for awhile but reverted back to the OEM X-grip for my P320X Carry. Something inline with what you said about shooting. The WC feels and looks better but the OEM for me made me grip the weapon better, for tighter and faster groups. That's just me though.
I really like the Wilson Combat Grips. I got 3, now if people want to spend some money they can go with Icarus Precision. These are $380.00 + CNC machined grips. I have one for my 365 XL and it makes it a much better carry gun IMO.
I agree the look awesome. I personally don’t put too much into carry guns. I’m a bit old fashioned in the sense. They have one job. And they don’t have to look pretty doing it. I do love the styling on the full-size frames.
"Squished summer sausage", I'm dying over here man😂🤣. It does have a funny shape that I couldn't describe and you definitely hit the nail spot on with that description 😂🤣
Great video! Was just showing my wife what I need for Valentine’s Day. She asked if it’s another gun. Said nope… it’s the grip module for one…. She still hasn’t said no😂
Anyone who talks shit on the 320 needs to invest about 40mins of their life and watch the sig mechanic’s channel and his break down and measurements of the 320. I wish the bigger yt channels that are fans of the 320 would shout out his channel. Anyways, this grip module looks sick and im definitely gonna check it out! TY for the info on this product!
Pretty new gun enthusiast here, I live in california and I am quite new to regulations and know that there is a CA legal P320 and was wondering how does the legality work with swapping out the grip module. Just wondering because I am quite clueless about these things and am having a struggle finding information regarding legality.
To my knowledge there are no laws on the grip module. It’s a non serialized part. You just order one and swap your FCU and use your existing magazines.
Good sir, any chance you can measure the total thickness of the grip section? This looks like it may be the thinnest p320 grip module on the market, which would be awesome for folks like me with small hands.
I had the p80 grip module on my p320 for a while and it was ok, but it was far too blocky for me and I had to dremel and radius a lot of edges, and even then I'd still get glock knuckle on high round count shooting sessions. Then when I did the PMM flush comp setup I got the WC full size grip module, and even with the comp and weights installed in the GM, I just can not run the gun as fast compared to the p80 module and no comp. I agree the WC module is too thin, and I can feel on my strong hand it almost leaves an air gap on my palm (I wear large sized gloves). I just ordered the slick m1811 module, and gonna do my own stipple job, so we'll see how this goes 🤞
How does this grip frame compare to the one offered by Wilson Combat? The WC grip frame is half the price and includes the mag release. The texturing is pretty good, too.
I have both, and the WC was my go to until I got my 1811 grip mod. I have to say that it’s far more comfortable. It has the near perfect grip angle and width for exceptional comfort and ergonomics. This is staying on my M18.
@@CountryTortoise In the comments here he replied to someone asking about grip width compared to other common modules including the WC, and he stated the Brouwer was the slimmest of them all. Seems to be an inconsistency there. Also he states the WC grip is just a more ergonomic version of the stock Sig grips, but I could have sworn the WC grips come with the 1911 grip angle, the higher, longer beavertail, and the higher trigger relief same as the Brouwer. WC's business was built on 1911s so it shouldn't be a huge surprise that they modeled their Sig grip on 'em.
If people are concerned about a gun discharging uncommanded there are options to make sure that never happens. Whether you choose the manual safety or the trigger safety agency put together it's up to you. It's tough to rag on the P320 when the vast majority of reports are of guns that just run. You see them at local competitions, you see them with officers (even though they supposedly pop off), and with prepared citizens. If you don't personally trust a gun, or you struggle to deal with the different impulse, then don't buy one. I live in a crap state and even I can testfire a lot of the common and some of the less common pistols out there before I even think of buying one. Glock, Walther, Smith, Sig, HK, CZ, etc I honestly don't care. If you hand it to me I will shoot it.
Just received mine. Holy shit this is 100% the best polymer grip module for the 320. No question in my mind. I’ve had the X Grip full, X Compact, P80 and the Wilson Combat full. NONE of them come close. People rave about the Wilson Combat but I agree, they’re too small circumference wise. I also hate the boomer looking side grip design lol. This looks and feels like a 2011. The silica carbide looks great but I just have the base version and it’s plenty of grip on the front and backstrap and that’s all that matters imo. The polymer used and overall molding is second to none. Quite honestly other than the metal grip mods I truly think this is has the most thought and design put into it period. It’s perfect. If they could introduce a version with a replaceable backstrap and customizable side panels similar to 1911s… oh man there’d be no reason to ever get any other grip mod.
I have a very similar build with my P320 sitting on an x5legion grip module and PMM dual port comp. My only gripe is im waiting for them to make a larger grip module. The x5 size to be exact just because I dont lile my comp hanging out side the grip. Want it all flush as it is now. Soon as they do that which im sure they will im all in. And theyre only $89 from what Ive seen on the site. Very good work
I CAN’T WAIT to try this…my current favorites are the agency Icarus and traditional sig xframes including txg (they fit me). It’s funny everyone loves the wc grips and I really want to because they seem great, but it makes the 320 feel like my macro and not comfortable for my 2x glove hand. I have a we will say slight p320 addiction and have tried the OG frame (my least fave), xframe, lxg xframe (some how wet handed this is slicker in my hand than the standard), txg frame, axg frame, Wilson frame and the agency Icarus.
@@rdrgear thank you for turning me onto this grip mod. I finally got one about a month ago and now it is my favorite polymer group frame. I think it’s tied with the Icarus agency for my favorite of any kind.
I switch between a comp’d x compact slide (Herrington comp) with a R1P and TLR1-HL with this frame and magwell and a HEAVY spectre comp.. I do miss the weight however the weight reduction is welcomed in many instances. I kind of wish I could run 320 weights in this frame. Instead I offset the weight with +10 springer extensions on 17rd mags. It’s nice being able to use factory 17rd sig mags without having to mod the base plates WITH their magwell
Have you tried it concealed carry. If so how does the carbide feel against the skin does it rub a lot or create any Hotspot? I'm really curious about getting this with carbide but if it's not viable for ccw I may have to go without it
So you spend the money on a 320 and then you spend the extra 300 bones on this. At this point im just going to save up money and go all in on a staccato or DWX and get that single action trigger and a nicer pew pew all around.
You can absolutely save the money. You also don’t have to get the full tardigrade slide. You can build a P320 with w comp for leas if thats what you are looking for. The dwx is cool. But 3 years late and there is already another model coming. Cant go wrong with a 2011. I own a handful. And comes down to task as budget. Guns are not a cheap hobby.
This is a great module. Not as good as my Icarus modules but they come at cost. Working on a TH-cam short now with this module on my channel RackinCrew. I’m fortunate enough to own a lot of pistols and my channel is a fun hobby for now.
hello, Im on the fence with the P320 M18. Im doing research before making the purchase. I enjoyed the video i think i will enjoy this frame. The upper slide with comp where can i found one. Would the Cherokee upward slide frame work with this lower frame. Also would i be also to add a comp.
This video came recommend, i am considering picking up the sig m18. Will probably get this grip if i can get the m18 i want. My local dealer has a commercial version in black and also a few military contract over runs in stock as well.
I think it all depends on what you want it spend. The last time I saw the mil overruns they were Triple the civilian price, has that changed? If not I would say the standard pistol. Once you have one, you can always buy parts and build another
Have you tried out the MIRZON GRIP MODULE? It's the one with rubber around the grip and backstrap and I'm wondering how they compare to each other since it is the brand I'm leaning towards most, until I saw the Brouwer!
Looks great, I might have to get it.. I currently rocking the WC.. I like it better than the original or xframe.. my buddy has the AXG.. love that but not the price ..
Have you tried P80's offering for their frame? I have the WC, XCarry, Standard frame and the P80 frame and the P80's angle, grip texture, etc. make it the best at least for my hands that I have found thus far. Only thing I am not the biggest fan of is the mag release but I mean its just a little spoungey, its not the end of the world and once you are use to it, it works fine. Wish they would have stuck with the standard Sig mag release though. This has my interest peaked though and am gonna order one here this week.
The Wilson is just more ergonomic p320. It does not change the grip angle. The m1811 frame helps with pistol presentation, which allows for the shooter to acquire the dot much faster. The mag well is awesome ad well. I have multiple WC frames as well.
@@theKashConnoisseur you can keep going. They did send some and i bought some. They were slippery not as comfortable stamping the wilson logo on them did not impress me. Your vagina is leaking because i praised a companies product after i bought one to try. Reach out to them And shared by thoughts. They offered to let me try a new model the silicone carbide. It’s not tape, and this tells me what little you know about firearms. Tolls like you spend more time talking shit. Instead of just working at getting better in all aspects of life. Instead you grow a pair of balls because you are on key board. You would not run that cock holster like you are right now. If this was a face to face conversation. Now you are done. You can go back to being q basic nobody.
@@rdrgear thanks for the permission to keep going, but it wasn't required. I don't care if you don't like the Wilson grips, what I care about is you lying and claiming that they aren't 1911 grip angles because it fits your shill. And stop lying man, you already said in the video that they sent you the two grips for free and thanked them as supporters of your channel. It's so obvious you're a paid opinion, just cut the crap already. It's fine to get free stuff, but this bias is insane, and the misinformation you support your biases with is out of line. Since I'm a real man, I'd be happy to say all of this to your face and more. But I guarantee you'd never call me the names your calling now outside of a comments section. Not only are you a small man, you're a weak one. Go back to thinking armed security makes you a gun expert though, since it makes you feel big. You'd think a gun expert would know what a heavy frame helps with for performance, but you obviously don't know. Oh, and a slippery gun? Sounds like you need to work on your grip, and get better/more training.
I have a fairly strong suspicion that Brouwer is paying for reviews and has completely fabricated the data they report on their website. They’re active in Sig groups on Facebook trying to use them as a platform to sell these modules and will get somewhat hostile when you question their product or where this data comes from.
This response is long. But I feel it’s an honest response to your statement/accusation. I’m open to the dialogue, because if you are you will get an education for free. I can say here publicly. 1. I have not been paid in anyway. But this is always the go to comment on YT. Which is understandable because before the YT outright assault on all things firearms. There was a culture of pay to play. 2. The Brouwer team are made of former, and active duty members of the military, with some spending time with in Special Operations. That’s not a bragging point, that’s just what they did and where they spent their time on the M18/M17. Some of these same people were part of the M18/M17 development and implementation program. Meaning direct hands on enduser interaction of the pistol. I came up in the retail side of firearms stated in 98. I started carrying a pistol professionally in 2002 during the Winter Olympics here in utah. Working in the Executive Protection side of contract security. I spent 13 years doing that. I grew up on the the 1911. It was my first pistol with my 20+ year Gunnery SGT father. We did not have other pistols in the house. I will admit I too was skeptical of a 1911 grip angle. But the proof is in the product. The grip angle does allow for better recoil mitigation, the grip angle shape of the frame allows for IMO, better presentation, allow the shooter to FIND THE DOT SOONER. WHICH ALLOWS FOR FASTER SHOOTING. When I got my First frame it was quite surprised. So I reached out to Brouwer’s to ask some questions. If you have been shooting a 320. And have never shot a 1911/2011. This module make seem like some social media hype. I can tell you the data is real. And there are other shooters much better than I. Putting through the paces. It’s easy to be a hater, from a key board. And make accusations that are simply unfounded. Or you could skip a week of morning coffee’s and purchase a frame for yourself. And use social media to post your findings. It’s easy to throw shade, when you don’t know what it’s like to work under the heat of the sun. 🤙
@@rdrgear I’m not gonna lie, but your response isn’t gonna convince anybody of anything. I’ve had multiple interactions online with Josh Bennett and his claims are flat out unbelievable, it has nothing to do with being a hater. I’m not accusing you of anything, but obviously you’ve taken offense to my statement so that’s something to raise an eyebrow at since paid reviews are a common thing on TH-cam. His behavior when asking questions about this product is a lot similar to how Kevin B from Q responds to criticism and when questioned about how they came up with the data they boast about on their website, he wasn’t able to give a clear, articulate response. So I don’t think it’s likely that the testing conducted was honest at all.
@@jonnytestnj2668 Well my opinion is not going to convince you. You sound like a pretty closed minded individual. It’s sounds like you, want to challenge someone’s data. Then simply shit on there information if you don’t like how it sounds. Guys like you and it’s common assume there is some financial agreement between a you tuber and company, Just because I have positive statements about a product you don’t OWN nor have USED. I will bet money you don’t own a Q product either. Your comment did not bother me, I wanted to respond so other people who might be interested in a product do fall for troll comments like yours.
@@rdrgear it’s funny that my original comment was not an accusation of you but, you obviously took it that way. I believe that it’s very likely that they have paid for positive reviews. There’s nothing wrong with questioning data especially when it doesn’t seem legit and when someone involved with that company can’t explain anything about how they came up with it, anybody would become suspicious of the data. He posts on a number of Sig Facebook groups trying to promote this product like he has no involvement with it which is already dishonest and I’ve seen him warned in groups over it. There’s nothing closed minded about calling someone out for conducting themselves in an unethical manner which is exactly what I’ve seen from Josh Bennett on Facebook. If he’s legit then he has nothing to worry about but, he never responds in a way that would make me think he is.
@@jonnytestnj2668 why does anyone need to talk or present anything in a way that appeases you. That’s what’s wrong with this country. Dudes like you who don’t “Do”. They just question from a key board what others have done.
The grip module works with the standard 3.9” slide. It does not work with the 3.6” slide. It’s easier to talk In slide lengths, since sig has so many dam names for the same length pistol.
Agreed! Appreciate the speedy response, you may or may not know but I was wondering if this would work with the 3.6” slide if I got the 4.3” threaded barrel and combined that with the Herrington arms HC320FL comp that sits flush to put the overall length of the standard x compact slide to that 4.3” length or if the way the grip module is cut just won’t work with what I have in mind. Thanks in advance!
@@rdrgear I even watched the HK VP9 tactical OR video you did, i'm a fan. I'm talking about the grip, friction, leverage, recoil management. I would really appreciate it. thank you again, for responding.
@@etam083 very nice, thanks. I don't see any XTEN options though. Unless I'm missing something. Hopefully it's on the to do list because that would be really great to have
@@rdrgear everything’s cosmetic, but this one changes the grip angle and would be cool if it was like the 1911 panels also. Otherwise we would just leave the gun as is, but you would be able to change the grip texture from the panels without changing the whole grip frame.
If you carry it, don't change anything. Keep it stock. I pull my glock and sig out. Sig cleared roughly 60 rounds, no malfunction. I kept sig stock.The g43 is not. I changed the side release years ago, and it failed to eject case after 3 rounds twice. It may have been the two year old ammo, though.😅 I also cleared 10 rounds out of my Ar no hick ups
So if I have a 4.7 slide with this frame, I can choose the 6390 p320 full size w/ wml off your website. Pretty sure it’s that model, but just wanna double check, thank you
This is the coolest company I have ever dealt with. I had an issue with my order and the owner personally took care of it. Best customer service!!
I’m a believer ! I’ve bought just about every grip module made for the P320. This module fits my hand the best with the most natural angle for me. I love it!!
It was like a whole new gun. For me it’s amazing.
@@rdrgear i’ve only got about 700ish rounds through the silicone carbide grip with a compact size slide. Think I’m going to buy another with the laser stippling for my full size and get rid of all my other modules. I also forgot to mention I bought it with the offset extended mag release and it is in the perfect position for my hand
I have the Icarus Precision Socom Full and its pretty awesome.
Right now, the Icarus Precision ACE Compact is by far my favorite grip. But I still kind of want this Because I plan on having more 320’s in the future. I really like this platform. And I love many other guns, but this is just my favorite because of the modularity.
Bought my first one...damn it feels so much better than WC Grip or SIG OEM...this is hands-down the best filling one yet.
I'm a big fan of the AXG grip on the P320 , but I love the polymer grips on the 365 and 365XL. Just depends on what I am using the gun for.
Thanks for the video !
The TXG frame, tungsten infused polymer, was intended for competition shooting. They love to make their pistols nice and heavy, 34 oz roughly, so it transitions from target to target smoothly, and it soaks up recoil to a degree. Anyone who carries a 3 lb+ pistol for duty is either a gigachad or is oblivious to the TXG's intent.
I mean the staccatto is marketed as a duty weapon and isn’t far off the weight. Sig making these heavy frames, smith and Wesson making a metal framed gun, the 2011 craze it’s the way the industry is headed I feel.
@@JoshR-t9j Yup, but it started as a competition gun under STI, and is now trending back in that direction. A lot of elements were streamlined to reduce snagging, but a heavy gun is not always a comp gun, that's simply the trend. Weight just benefits a comp gun more than a duty one.
Plus, some folks don't like the feel of polymer. They prefer aluminum or steel, which is naturally more heavy.
@@CalzaTheFoxI removed the grip weight and put an aluminum mag well on mine over the steel. It’s much more balanced now.
Awesome video breakdown. This grip module looks even in quality with a metal icarus percision. Thanks for featuring smaller companies that are making great products!
Appreciate the kind words and the watch. 🤙
I’ve had mine for a few months now, and I absolutely love it. I’m a big 1911 shooter so when I saw the M1811 frame, I snatched it and I’m very happy with it.
You and me both
I want this grip!!!i own one 1911 and i love everything about it except for the brass to face issue it has.will be looking into this frame and also considering getting a p320 next week.
Icarus precision has the best frame for the money, but pricey. Check out one of those brother
Agree 100%
I love Sig innovating with the FCU and swappable frames and such. However the p320 design is not what I would choose. They need to redesign their flagship striker fired pistol line. Take the p365 design and upscale it for duty use. I know they won’t do this because of the military contract, but they should. The P365 design is superior in every way.
Im curious what drives your thoughts on this statement?
It’s cool. It’s also prohibitively expensive. $300 for one with laser stippling and a magwell. Id also prefer an x5 length dust cover.
Full dust cover only fits 1 slide length. That’s why these are not made in the full 5”’frame. If you just like the look, the the factory grip is a solid option.
Price is subjective. Some can afford it, and. some cannot.
@@rdrgear there is a difference between affordability and just plain over paying for something. But they can charge whatever they want for their products. Free market will reveal if it was priced correctly.
Im just saying in my opinion It’s overpriced and cost prohibitive for someone who’s considering giving it a try. It’s not crazy overpriced, $50-$75 too high for the package I gave as an example.
@@jpk9171jpk ok. What should it be priced at since we ar having this conversation.
I only had to see the photo to know this was a awesome setup.
Very interesting indeed.
I used the WC grip module for awhile but reverted back to the OEM X-grip for my P320X Carry. Something inline with what you said about shooting. The WC feels and looks better but the OEM for me made me grip the weapon better, for tighter and faster groups. That's just me though.
I really like the Wilson Combat Grips. I got 3, now if people want to spend some money they can go with Icarus Precision. These are $380.00 + CNC machined grips. I have one for my 365 XL and it makes it a much better carry gun IMO.
I agree the look awesome. I personally don’t put too much into carry guns. I’m a bit old fashioned in the sense. They have one job. And they don’t have to look pretty doing it. I do love the styling on the full-size frames.
"Squished summer sausage", I'm dying over here man😂🤣. It does have a funny shape that I couldn't describe and you definitely hit the nail spot on with that description 😂🤣
Great video! Was just showing my wife what I need for Valentine’s Day. She asked if it’s another gun. Said nope… it’s the grip module for one…. She still hasn’t said no😂
Seems really interesting, waiting for a 15-shot length module for edc.
Awesome content as always. What slide, barrel, and comp combo are you running on this build? Thanks!
Got off the train - but this......With a PMM comp may be super juicy! Good find Jeff!
If you like this watch the full review on the Parker mountain Tardigrade. IMO it’s the best comp’d p32O out.
@@rdrgear I can only imagine!
That god damn photo bombing fly.
Really wish they worked with 15round mags....would buy in a heartbeat
Anyone who talks shit on the 320 needs to invest about 40mins of their life and watch the sig mechanic’s channel and his break down and measurements of the 320. I wish the bigger yt channels that are fans of the 320 would shout out his channel. Anyways, this grip module looks sick and im definitely gonna check it out! TY for the info on this product!
I have 9 P320s
Appreciate the watch.
Jeff, what type of pouch is mounted behind your holster? Around the 4:30 position. Also I love how the channel has grown!
It’s one we are working on.
Where do you get that model? I haven't seen that color combination or that texture.
Pretty new gun enthusiast here, I live in california and I am quite new to regulations and know that there is a CA legal P320 and was wondering how does the legality work with swapping out the grip module. Just wondering because I am quite clueless about these things and am having a struggle finding information regarding legality.
To my knowledge there are no laws on the grip module. It’s a non serialized part. You just order one and swap your FCU and use your existing magazines.
Great camera work
Been on the fence about building a 320. This helps move the needle lol
Best grip had to add some grip tape in front and back strap and it made it so much easier to control
Love the 320s really likin that thank for info 👊
Good sir, any chance you can measure the total thickness of the grip section? This looks like it may be the thinnest p320 grip module on the market, which would be awesome for folks like me with small hands.
It is. Grip and and thickness is narrower and straighter than the Wilson module which I used to use
I had the p80 grip module on my p320 for a while and it was ok, but it was far too blocky for me and I had to dremel and radius a lot of edges, and even then I'd still get glock knuckle on high round count shooting sessions. Then when I did the PMM flush comp setup I got the WC full size grip module, and even with the comp and weights installed in the GM, I just can not run the gun as fast compared to the p80 module and no comp. I agree the WC module is too thin, and I can feel on my strong hand it almost leaves an air gap on my palm (I wear large sized gloves). I just ordered the slick m1811 module, and gonna do my own stipple job, so we'll see how this goes 🤞
I think you will he very happy. Send me a follow up message after get some time on it
I have a DH3 and want a bigger grip. This looks like it could fit the bill!
This might finally be the reason i buy a sig. I like the frame and how it looks.
How does this grip frame compare to the one offered by Wilson Combat? The WC grip frame is half the price and includes the mag release. The texturing is pretty good, too.
At about 1:39 he says he feels the WC grips are too thin and feel weird in the hand for some
I have both, and the WC was my go to until I got my 1811 grip mod. I have to say that it’s far more comfortable. It has the near perfect grip angle and width for exceptional comfort and ergonomics. This is staying on my M18.
@@CountryTortoise In the comments here he replied to someone asking about grip width compared to other common modules including the WC, and he stated the Brouwer was the slimmest of them all. Seems to be an inconsistency there. Also he states the WC grip is just a more ergonomic version of the stock Sig grips, but I could have sworn the WC grips come with the 1911 grip angle, the higher, longer beavertail, and the higher trigger relief same as the Brouwer. WC's business was built on 1911s so it shouldn't be a huge surprise that they modeled their Sig grip on 'em.
It’s the best! Changed the P320 for me
If people are concerned about a gun discharging uncommanded there are options to make sure that never happens. Whether you choose the manual safety or the trigger safety agency put together it's up to you.
It's tough to rag on the P320 when the vast majority of reports are of guns that just run. You see them at local competitions, you see them with officers (even though they supposedly pop off), and with prepared citizens.
If you don't personally trust a gun, or you struggle to deal with the different impulse, then don't buy one. I live in a crap state and even I can testfire a lot of the common and some of the less common pistols out there before I even think of buying one.
Glock, Walther, Smith, Sig, HK, CZ, etc I honestly don't care. If you hand it to me I will shoot it.
Well said.
I’ve been very curious about these. I run the WC because of how narrow it is. It conceals really well. Maybe I’ll try this for an OWB setup.
I am a big fan for both owb and IWB. I enjoy it more than the WC.
@@rdrgear how is the silicone carbide on your skin? Worried for my dad belly. Ha ha
Just received mine. Holy shit this is 100% the best polymer grip module for the 320. No question in my mind. I’ve had the X Grip full, X Compact, P80 and the Wilson Combat full. NONE of them come close. People rave about the Wilson Combat but I agree, they’re too small circumference wise. I also hate the boomer looking side grip design lol. This looks and feels like a 2011. The silica carbide looks great but I just have the base version and it’s plenty of grip on the front and backstrap and that’s all that matters imo. The polymer used and overall molding is second to none. Quite honestly other than the metal grip mods I truly think this is has the most thought and design put into it period. It’s perfect. If they could introduce a version with a replaceable backstrap and customizable side panels similar to 1911s… oh man there’d be no reason to ever get any other grip mod.
Appreciate you. I will be sure to pass this on to brouwer team.
Jeff
@@rdrgearMetal versions both Aluminum and Steel would be cool AF too!
How long did you wait I just bought one on backorder just curious thanks man
@@molinamj2007 I got mine early on the release. They have been growing fast. I got mine in a few days
@@rdrgear I see okay I guess I’ll just have to wait and find out
I have a very similar build with my P320 sitting on an x5legion grip module and PMM dual port comp. My only gripe is im waiting for them to make a larger grip module. The x5 size to be exact just because I dont lile my comp hanging out side the grip. Want it all flush as it is now. Soon as they do that which im sure they will im all in. And theyre only $89 from what Ive seen on the site. Very good work
Nice watch
Do they have an option with a full dust cover? I couldn’t find it on their website. Thx
I’d say this and Icarus precision is 1A and 1B
Sir! Pls review the Sig P320 AXG LEGION!
I am working on it. I get a lot of requests for this one. Hopefully coming soon.
I’m glad to know that an X5 Legion with that frame. Weighs Less. Was your slide the xcomp?
Its a tardigrade by PMM
I CAN’T WAIT to try this…my current favorites are the agency Icarus and traditional sig xframes including txg (they fit me). It’s funny everyone loves the wc grips and I really want to because they seem great, but it makes the 320 feel like my macro and not comfortable for my 2x glove hand. I have a we will say slight p320 addiction and have tried the OG frame (my least fave), xframe, lxg xframe (some how wet handed this is slicker in my hand than the standard), txg frame, axg frame, Wilson frame and the agency Icarus.
I feel the WC frames are too narrow and too slippery. I don’t think you will regret trying the M1811 frame
@@rdrgear thank you for turning me onto this grip mod. I finally got one about a month ago and now it is my favorite polymer group frame. I think it’s tied with the Icarus agency for my favorite of any kind.
I'd like it a lot more if they offered it with safety cuts, and perhaps compatible with some sort of grip panels.
Safety notches are indicated on the inside of the frame. Took me less than a min to dremel both sides.
I switch between a comp’d x compact slide (Herrington comp) with a R1P and TLR1-HL with this frame and magwell and a HEAVY spectre comp..
I do miss the weight however the weight reduction is welcomed in many instances.
I kind of wish I could run 320 weights in this frame. Instead I offset the weight with +10 springer extensions on 17rd mags.
It’s nice being able to use factory 17rd sig mags without having to mod the base plates WITH their magwell
I have one and I love the grip and feel. I’m going to silicone carbide it myself. Grip angle is more natural than the clunky sig grip.
Have you tried it concealed carry. If so how does the carbide feel against the skin does it rub a lot or create any Hotspot? I'm really curious about getting this with carbide but if it's not viable for ccw I may have to go without it
Where do you find that slide?
Love the grip. I need to know what kind of compensator you have on it.
This is a full factory top end from Parker mountain machine called the Tardigrade.
So you spend the money on a 320 and then you spend the extra 300 bones on this. At this point im just going to save up money and go all in on a staccato or DWX and get that single action trigger and a nicer pew pew all around.
You can absolutely save the money. You also don’t have to get the full tardigrade slide. You can build a P320 with w comp for leas if thats what you are looking for. The dwx is cool. But 3 years late and there is already another model coming. Cant go wrong with a 2011. I own a handful. And comes down to task as budget. Guns are not a cheap hobby.
Is it drop safe? Jk. 😂
I may have missed it, but how much for the grip module?
$2,00,000,0,000
@@BearNecessities-X For that much, it BETTER be drop safe!
Hit the brouwerllc website. There are multiple options
This is a great module. Not as good as my Icarus modules but they come at cost. Working on a TH-cam short now with this module on my channel RackinCrew. I’m fortunate enough to own a lot of pistols and my channel is a fun hobby for now.
excuse me but what is that lovely holster you are wearing sir?!?!?!
On our website. We offer modified Safariland holsters for a variety of guns Safariland does not support.
hello,
Im on the fence with the P320 M18. Im doing research before making the purchase. I enjoyed the video i think i will enjoy this frame. The upper slide with comp where can i found one. Would the Cherokee upward slide frame work with this lower frame. Also would i be also to add a comp.
This video came recommend, i am considering picking up the sig m18. Will probably get this grip if i can get the m18 i want. My local dealer has a commercial version in black and also a few military contract over runs in stock as well.
I think it all depends on what you want it spend. The last time I saw the mil overruns they were Triple the civilian price, has that changed? If not I would say the standard pistol. Once you have one, you can always buy parts and build another
Nothing beats the AXG frame with Lok G10 grips
Grip angle. The review is about a true 1911 grip angle. The AXG is a great option, at double the cost. 🤙
Not gonna lie they are pretty damn expensive. Especially the magwell. I would love to try one though.
I love anything 1911. This might get me to finally buy a 320
I Love mine and I'm waiting on mine to come in and I enherently shoot 1911's more accurately glocks make me shoot high every time
Have you tried out the MIRZON GRIP MODULE? It's the one with rubber around the grip and backstrap and I'm wondering how they compare to each other since it is the brand I'm leaning towards most, until I saw the Brouwer!
Looks great, I might have to get it.. I currently rocking the WC.. I like it better than the original or xframe.. my buddy has the AXG.. love that but not the price ..
Beautiful setup, excellent channel and nice work dealing with the "only Glock", negative anything else clowns...
Appreciate you GB. Glad to have you.
how would this compare to the LXG grip module from sig?
I think you mean the AXG. They are 100% different grip angles. But a comparison video is coming.
Would you compare this grip to the x carry grip module in size?
I have a m18 and I want that m1811.. where can I get it at
Is the width of the m1811 around the same circumference say that of the Springfield prodigy or staccato grips?
@@faithwindsheimer3038 narrower since the mags are narrower. It’s similar but not exact.
Would the P320 AXG Legion slide and barrel be a good match on the 1811 Brouwer? Do you feel there is a better Sig "slide/barrel" pairing? Best !
The frame would be a great pairing.
What slide & comp setup are you running?
I wish they had one with the full length 1913 rail.
No need. Sig does not haw one either. If they did you would be stuck with the full size slide all the time.
Probably a stupid question but if I buy this grip module will it not fit the custom kydex sidecar holster that I have for the stock m18 ?
The trigger Gaurd is a bit different. But it's close.
Have you tried P80's offering for their frame? I have the WC, XCarry, Standard frame and the P80 frame and the P80's angle, grip texture, etc. make it the best at least for my hands that I have found thus far. Only thing I am not the biggest fan of is the mag release but I mean its just a little spoungey, its not the end of the world and once you are use to it, it works fine. Wish they would have stuck with the standard Sig mag release though. This has my interest peaked though and am gonna order one here this week.
I’m not a fan.
Oh nice!
How do you feel about the Wilson combat grip compared to this
The Wilson is just more ergonomic p320. It does not change the grip angle. The m1811 frame helps with pistol presentation, which allows for the shooter to acquire the dot much faster. The mag well is awesome ad well. I have multiple WC frames as well.
@@theKashConnoisseur you can keep going. They did send some and i bought some. They were slippery not as comfortable stamping the wilson logo on them did not impress me. Your vagina is leaking because i praised a companies product after i bought one to try. Reach out to them
And shared by thoughts. They offered to let me try a new model the silicone carbide. It’s not tape, and this tells me what little you know about firearms. Tolls like you spend more time talking shit. Instead of just working at getting better in all aspects of life. Instead you grow a pair of balls because you are on key board. You would not run that cock holster like you are right now. If this was a face to face conversation. Now you are done. You can go back to being q basic nobody.
@@rdrgear thanks for the permission to keep going, but it wasn't required. I don't care if you don't like the Wilson grips, what I care about is you lying and claiming that they aren't 1911 grip angles because it fits your shill.
And stop lying man, you already said in the video that they sent you the two grips for free and thanked them as supporters of your channel. It's so obvious you're a paid opinion, just cut the crap already. It's fine to get free stuff, but this bias is insane, and the misinformation you support your biases with is out of line.
Since I'm a real man, I'd be happy to say all of this to your face and more. But I guarantee you'd never call me the names your calling now outside of a comments section. Not only are you a small man, you're a weak one. Go back to thinking armed security makes you a gun expert though, since it makes you feel big. You'd think a gun expert would know what a heavy frame helps with for performance, but you obviously don't know.
Oh, and a slippery gun? Sounds like you need to work on your grip, and get better/more training.
its okay to lotion your elbows if they start bleeding from being too dry
Whats is the laser engraving about i order it that way can you explain it to me thank you
Laser engraving? On the frame? I think thats their new laser stippling i do not have that unit.
I have a fairly strong suspicion that Brouwer is paying for reviews and has completely fabricated the data they report on their website. They’re active in Sig groups on Facebook trying to use them as a platform to sell these modules and will get somewhat hostile when you question their product or where this data comes from.
This response is long. But I feel it’s an honest response to your statement/accusation. I’m open to the dialogue, because if you are you will get an education for free.
I can say here publicly.
1. I have not been paid in anyway. But this is always the go to comment on YT. Which is understandable because before the YT outright assault on all things firearms. There was a culture of pay to play.
2. The Brouwer team are made of former, and active duty members of the military, with some spending time with in Special Operations. That’s not a bragging point, that’s just what they did and where they spent their time on the M18/M17.
Some of these same people were part of the M18/M17 development and implementation program. Meaning direct hands on enduser interaction of the pistol.
I came up in the retail side of firearms stated in 98. I started carrying a pistol professionally in 2002 during the Winter Olympics here in utah. Working in the Executive Protection side of contract security. I spent 13 years doing that.
I grew up on the the 1911. It was my first pistol with my 20+ year Gunnery SGT father. We did not have other pistols in the house.
I will admit I too was skeptical of a 1911 grip angle. But the proof is in the product. The grip angle does allow for better recoil mitigation, the grip angle shape of the frame allows for IMO, better presentation, allow the shooter to FIND THE DOT SOONER. WHICH ALLOWS FOR FASTER SHOOTING.
When I got my First frame it was quite surprised. So I reached out to Brouwer’s to ask some questions. If you have been shooting a 320. And have never shot a 1911/2011. This module make seem like some social media hype. I can tell you the data is real. And there are other shooters much better than I. Putting through the paces.
It’s easy to be a hater, from a key board. And make accusations that are simply unfounded. Or you could skip a week of morning coffee’s and purchase a frame for yourself. And use social media to post your findings. It’s easy to throw shade, when you don’t know what it’s like to work under the heat of the sun. 🤙
@@rdrgear I’m not gonna lie, but your response isn’t gonna convince anybody of anything. I’ve had multiple interactions online with Josh Bennett and his claims are flat out unbelievable, it has nothing to do with being a hater. I’m not accusing you of anything, but obviously you’ve taken offense to my statement so that’s something to raise an eyebrow at since paid reviews are a common thing on TH-cam.
His behavior when asking questions about this product is a lot similar to how Kevin B from Q responds to criticism and when questioned about how they came up with the data they boast about on their website, he wasn’t able to give a clear, articulate response. So I don’t think it’s likely that the testing conducted was honest at all.
@@jonnytestnj2668
Well my opinion is not going to convince you. You sound like a pretty closed minded individual. It’s sounds like you, want to challenge someone’s data. Then simply shit on there information if you don’t like how it sounds.
Guys like you and it’s common assume there is some financial agreement between a you tuber and company, Just because I have positive statements about a product you don’t OWN nor have USED. I will bet money you don’t own a Q product either. Your comment did not bother me, I wanted to respond so other people who might be interested in a product do fall for troll comments like yours.
@@rdrgear it’s funny that my original comment was not an accusation of you but, you obviously took it that way. I believe that it’s very likely that they have paid for positive reviews.
There’s nothing wrong with questioning data especially when it doesn’t seem legit and when someone involved with that company can’t explain anything about how they came up with it, anybody would become suspicious of the data.
He posts on a number of Sig Facebook groups trying to promote this product like he has no involvement with it which is already dishonest and I’ve seen him warned in groups over it.
There’s nothing closed minded about calling someone out for conducting themselves in an unethical manner which is exactly what I’ve seen from Josh Bennett on Facebook. If he’s legit then he has nothing to worry about but, he never responds in a way that would make me think he is.
@@jonnytestnj2668 why does anyone need to talk or present anything in a way that appeases you. That’s what’s wrong with this country. Dudes like you who don’t “Do”. They just question from a key board what others have done.
the same holster work for it?
Yes
New to the P320 platform, would this work with the X-Compact? Can’t really find anything online about it
The grip module works with the standard 3.9” slide. It does not work with the 3.6” slide. It’s easier to talk
In slide lengths, since sig has so many dam names for the same length pistol.
Agreed! Appreciate the speedy response, you may or may not know but I was wondering if this would work with the 3.6” slide if I got the 4.3” threaded barrel and combined that with the Herrington arms HC320FL comp that sits flush to put the overall length of the standard x compact slide to that 4.3” length or if the way the grip module is cut just won’t work with what I have in mind. Thanks in advance!
Def gonna pick one of these up
axg or the brouwer which would you choose?
Probably would pick a WIlson and take the money I saved and put it towards more training and ammo.
i like your shooting mechanic
would you mind make a video breaking it down.
thank you in advance
What parts? I’m not sure I’m the best guy for that but I can see what I can do
@@rdrgear I even watched the HK VP9 tactical OR video you did, i'm a fan.
I'm talking about the grip, friction, leverage,
recoil management.
I would really appreciate it.
thank you again, for responding.
@@samuelboyer7842 I will see what I can do.
What Safariland holster are you using???
@@stunners3283 on our website at Rdrgear.com we mod wrap and custom tune holsters
They should do one for Glock 😢
Possible. The future is very bright for this company
I know it's apples and oranges, but what about the AXG frame vs the M1811?
Since having both. I like the M1811. The 1911 grip angle just works better for me. And I like the more aggressive texture
Donyou know if this accepts Massachusetts compliant 10 round magazines?
It should the mag bodies are the same
Yes . The ten rounds mag are 17 mag with two stops pressed into them to stop at 10 rounds
What's the whole build pictured? Slide, barrel, etc? It's very nice.
I talk about them in the video
Yeah I figured that out after I watched it again! Haha Do you have any good alternatives for someone with less of a budget for a slide and barrel?
@@EmberIsABrat you can get barrel and comp combos from Parker mountain for your existing 320
Hello is that the M18 upper slide ?
Wait, where is the compensator from? Where is a build like this...for like an XTEN. That'd be awesome
PMM Tardigrade
@@etam083 very nice, thanks. I don't see any XTEN options though. Unless I'm missing something. Hopefully it's on the to do list because that would be really great to have
thanks for the info!
Only if it was metal and changeable grip panels
Those are all cosmetic factors.
@@rdrgear everything’s cosmetic, but this one changes the grip angle and would be cool if it was like the 1911 panels also. Otherwise we would just leave the gun as is, but you would be able to change the grip texture from the panels without changing the whole grip frame.
@@86steventura the silicone carbine really is pretty awesome
I just got a CA p320 m18 with the Romeo 1pro optics trying to add sone cool stuff to it any suggestions ?
I would suggest upgrading the Reddot first. Maybe the frame
Me too! Bullets, A shit ton. :) Then another shit ton. THEN decide what to add.
If you carry it, don't change anything. Keep it stock. I pull my glock and sig out. Sig cleared roughly 60 rounds, no malfunction. I kept sig stock.The g43 is not. I changed the side release years ago, and it failed to eject case after 3 rounds twice. It may have been the two year old ammo, though.😅 I also cleared 10 rounds out of my Ar no hick ups
Also not at the same night I pulled them out. This happen the first time in December last year.
What camera is that that follows the gun when holstered to firing
Can you plz. Tell me if the m1811 will fit the same holsters as the m18 does?
If you are asking about safariland yes
Duty style holsters yes. Concealed carry holsters, it’s been 50/50 for me.
Will this grip fit 10 round mags?
Ever find out?
@@anderson2501 it works👌🏾
Where to get the slide/comp combo?
PMM Tardigrade
I just wish they made one that worked with the P320 X-TEN. Brouwer are listening? Please…
I don’t see 10mm being dominant enough to cover the start up cost.
@@rdrgearthe frame size would also be used for .45 Caliber.
@@wolfnstrings same in 45acp. I love 45. But I feel in polymer guns, is starting to be less common.
So if I have a 4.7 slide with this frame, I can choose the 6390 p320 full size w/ wml off your website. Pretty sure it’s that model, but just wanna double check, thank you
Yup.
@@rdrgear thanks for the reply
This grip is only available in full size. Will they come out with a compact size?
It fits the 3.9 compact slide. I have one