You did good bro! So when i was building my 110cc I decided that i was going with the case reed on EBAY that is for sale. I Bought it and its been in the box still til i can afford to get a proper REAL PISTON And Then Have It Sent To Be Built And Timed Correctly Along With Balanced but the listing said it was already balanced "in China" LOL But Yea Still Get You A DLH SUPER CLUTCH and GO Better PIPE YZ 65 Pipe And DONE But As She Sits Now DONE! Be SAFE BROTHER AND GET GEAR Sincerely A Fellow Ryda!
Why would I buy a DLH super clutch when I make the kits lol! You know I'm only one that makes 6 spring one's right lolz? Here is my dual head MS460 engine you can see 6 spring clutch on that one lolz th-cam.com/video/4DuCpYtrShk/w-d-xo.html
Nice man, I feel like as you said it takes a lot of work just to make it run decent instead of being worse than a stock 80cc china motor, so I personally wouldnt go through this hassle when i can make something like a 460, which I personally made one and it didnt seem as bad as this 110 build. You did a great job gotta give you credit for that!
@@BuildBreakFix actually going to buy an 85v3 I'll let you know how it goes I'm gonna take it apart first because it's my 4th engine kit to check for snag what do you think are good power and speed upgrades for the phantom 85?
Yes way to much work to get what you end up with. If you enjoy a challenge sure. If not then run in other direction fast from this one lol. They actually are making v2 of this engine modeled after one I just sent them copy of this bikes engine.
@@HighMileageOffroad phantom 85 has ring bulge issue. Bottom ring catches the intake cause the cut the port to wide. Sometimes it's so wide pin even runs over the port which makes it even worse! Honestly solve it easy! Take bottom ring off. Compression is still well above 145psi with 1 ring.
Another great job well done sounds mean when you said there was a trail of smoke behind you a mile long brought back memories of me breaking in my minaralli lol ride safe brother I'm still waiting for you to figure out that two cylinder engine you created
Nice job, heard they're a clutch burning torque monger, with a lotta love. Your videos has me more confident now. Other than your mill, I believe I'm gonna build one. With reeds and a boost port!
1/8 aluminum plate & hole saw and dremel for spacer! Decking the top end? Belt sander removes lots material fast lol fine tune with sand paper on flat surface
I think it will. Timing came out decent. It is stock porting! And the funky carb mount thing lol. After its run as normal a bit... going to tune it some 🔥🤫🔥
@@BuildBreakFix I saw the corrected timing numbers, and they don't look too bad. Exhaust duration is a smidge low, but blowdown is right about where you want it to be. Good setup for a torque monster!
@@dmoore0079 I didn't touch the ports! they are all stock ports! Was not my goal to port this one or mod it! Next one on the other hand will be ported and reed valve added. I already have that top end on my table lol! I just wanted to fix a broken engine so others can get an idea of what you get when you finish, that kind of thing for this build! I didn't even want one of these lol! but to many requested me to try fix one! I plan on riding this a bit then cutting it in half for a timing video. I will replace the top end with ported 99.9% on money timed top end with reed valve shortly after that though! Get rid of this crappy carb adaptor lol that was another request to try LOL clutch cable issue with it!
down the road I'm going to cut this top end in half do a timing video, For now just going to see how it runs as a stock build if it's built correctly. I already ordered a new piston and top end so I can port one and reed valve it. for after that
Hey I have a question I broke a ring it snagged the top of intake if I get rid of that little bit of damage, I’m going to be removing about 1 1/2 mms of material from the top of the intake I know that’s not supposed to be done, but I have to do it, so what else do I have to do to compensate for me raising the intake? I could really use your help please. Thank you sir.
Honestly if you fix the rings and the little ding won't matter any in cylinder wall if it's a "indent" if it's "raised" it will cause issue! Don't go crazy grinding off it or it changes the port durations. You can remove about 1 or 2 mm not to much will change! If the ring snagged on the port! You can bevel the edges of the port with small file from outside of the port inward toward where cylinder goes pretty easy! Bevel on ports walls won't hurt anything just dont go crazy deep lol!
@@BuildBreakFix and thank you for the information. No I don’t have to buy a new cylinder just sucks that paid $98 for a real piston the fucker broke I’m going to order an MS 380 piston.???
Sweet bro got a good sound and looks like plenty of power for not broken in yet beyond my skill set but I'm getting there pretty sure I would get myself in trouble on that
@@BuildBreakFix awesome and my comment on your previous video I wasn't asking for an endorsement of your supplier only a link, so I could make my own evaluation of them, after which I did do a search and found them, and so far I am impressed just by their inventory and for the most part their prices, I hope to do business with them in the future.
Yeah I normally run it like this video about 15 minutes. about 8 times roughly. Yeah let it fully cool and go again! I guess just habit lol saying one tank! normally ends up being about that in end anyhow i guess lol! 🤣👍
@@BuildBreakFix Like your mini shop and you got the skills. So says a old broken down x- road racer. I would like to compare notes. Wanted to get in with the apple valley guys a couple years back and have a lengthy thread with Sean about blk boxes and such. Keep on keeping on man.
Hey this is Eric I have a few questions, I had to buy a new Ms 046-460 chain saw head to put on my phantom 85 I had to buy a ms460 because phantom 85 blow the spark plug out of the head and so I helicoil it and it still didn't work so I bought A MS 460 how do I install it on the bottom end of my phantom
Why dont you just buy a spark plug insert? Seems to happen alot to phantom heads www.autozone.com/test-scan-and-specialty-tools/thread-repair/p/oemtools-14mm-spark-plug-rethreader-kit/265137_0_0
well goal will be run this stock ports and such see how it works! I already have a new top end coming! Going to port the hell out of it to perfect numbers lol! reed valve it and do full 22mm intake! Chamber pipe it to lol!
@@BuildBreakFix Have you ever messed with any jackshaft kits? Some say it's more trouble than worth. Other videos show jack shaft kits that look like they're running decent. I could understand it being a waste on a stock engine with no power. Since some power is lost turning the extra chains & sprockets,etc... But thinking on a 52mm chainsaw build with a stronger mid drive e-bike chain. Might be worth the money & hassle if you live in a hilly area.
no idea yet lol! this one all stock ports! Going to run it see how it does! then cut this top end in half! do a proper timing video and then I already ordered a top end to port and window for reed setup and will make that one extrem lol!
Well she sounds like a beast. I'm very impressed with your work. Your a real deal genuine problem solver. You should be a mechanical engineer designing your own brand of motors.
There is no spacer for saw builds. Ms380, ms460. Ms66o has to be cut down even... Non of them use one but a ms881. So not really sure what your asking? Something not lining up or something like that you mean? Are you asking how to connect head to bottom half??? Watch this! Start at time may be what your asking 3:28 th-cam.com/video/FmNmS6UnIKQ/w-d-xo.html
Ms380 is what they copied to make a phantom. Ms460 not same port design or pistion height. #1 reason these idiots using ms460 pistions blow there cranks apart constantly
@@BuildBreakFix whar would the approx mad speed be? Q1: if i have a bike with gears will it work Q2: Does it have changable gears? Q3: can you start it when your stationary? Q4: is this called pedal start? if yeah is kick start when you start it stationary?]]]]]] so sorry for a bunch of questions ive been looking forward to buying one of these things. !!
Yes! Chest mount cant hear me well with helmet on! Normally have gopro on helmet just not charged up. Other one had a bar so! On the fly kinda thing lol
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Sounds mean bro 👍, like it's got good bottom end grunt . What main jet & idle jet are you running?
62pilot and 95main. I think once it breaks in it's going to be pretty good
Da beast is alive! Good first run, bro 👍
hoping it stays good on next 50 after that LOL!
Definitely sounds like a beast! Yeah, it wants to be opened up, you'll have to get on the pipe to get it to scream!
I think what will happen is I'm going to put this nasty jack mz65 clone on it LOL see how well it works!
You did good bro! So when i was building my 110cc I decided that i was going with the case reed on EBAY that is for sale. I Bought it and its been in the box still til i can afford to get a proper REAL PISTON And Then Have It Sent To Be Built And Timed Correctly Along With Balanced but the listing said it was already balanced "in China" LOL But Yea Still Get You A DLH SUPER CLUTCH and GO Better PIPE YZ 65 Pipe And DONE But As She Sits Now DONE! Be SAFE BROTHER AND GET GEAR Sincerely A Fellow Ryda!
Why would I buy a DLH super clutch when I make the kits lol! You know I'm only one that makes 6 spring one's right lolz? Here is my dual head MS460 engine you can see 6 spring clutch on that one lolz th-cam.com/video/4DuCpYtrShk/w-d-xo.html
Nice man, I feel like as you said it takes a lot of work just to make it run decent instead of being worse than a stock 80cc china motor, so I personally wouldnt go through this hassle when i can make something like a 460, which I personally made one and it didnt seem as bad as this 110 build. You did a great job gotta give you credit for that!
@@BuildBreakFix actually going to buy an 85v3 I'll let you know how it goes I'm gonna take it apart first because it's my 4th engine kit to check for snag what do you think are good power and speed upgrades for the phantom 85?
Yes way to much work to get what you end up with. If you enjoy a challenge sure. If not then run in other direction fast from this one lol. They actually are making v2 of this engine modeled after one I just sent them copy of this bikes engine.
@@HighMileageOffroad phantom 85 has ring bulge issue. Bottom ring catches the intake cause the cut the port to wide. Sometimes it's so wide pin even runs over the port which makes it even worse! Honestly solve it easy! Take bottom ring off. Compression is still well above 145psi with 1 ring.
How does it compare to your other motors?
It has about same power as a 52mm ms460. Now that its ran a few times and carb set right
Another great job well done sounds mean when you said there was a trail of smoke behind you a mile long brought back memories of me breaking in my minaralli lol ride safe brother I'm still waiting for you to figure out that two cylinder engine you created
yes it is a smoker LOL Like watching a jet fly by!
Nice job, heard they're a clutch burning torque monger, with a lotta love. Your videos has me more confident now. Other than your mill, I believe I'm gonna build one. With reeds and a boost port!
1/8 aluminum plate & hole saw and dremel for spacer! Decking the top end? Belt sander removes lots material fast lol fine tune with sand paper on flat surface
@@BuildBreakFix I figured no sense in going through all that port mapping to get it right if I can't/don't get squish right.
Wow, that thing just might rip!!!!! 😳
I think it will. Timing came out decent. It is stock porting! And the funky carb mount thing lol. After its run as normal a bit... going to tune it some 🔥🤫🔥
Not bad at all for just correcting the port timing! Are you running a 36T sprocket?
Nope stock 44t. But yes no mods to ports other then cleaning them up. All stock timing! Just spacer and crank stroke change to fix its issues!
@@BuildBreakFix I saw the corrected timing numbers, and they don't look too bad. Exhaust duration is a smidge low, but blowdown is right about where you want it to be. Good setup for a torque monster!
@@dmoore0079 I didn't touch the ports! they are all stock ports! Was not my goal to port this one or mod it! Next one on the other hand will be ported and reed valve added. I already have that top end on my table lol! I just wanted to fix a broken engine so others can get an idea of what you get when you finish, that kind of thing for this build! I didn't even want one of these lol! but to many requested me to try fix one! I plan on riding this a bit then cutting it in half for a timing video. I will replace the top end with ported 99.9% on money timed top end with reed valve shortly after that though! Get rid of this crappy carb adaptor lol that was another request to try LOL clutch cable issue with it!
Are you going to port it and maybe add a pipe ??
down the road I'm going to cut this top end in half do a timing video, For now just going to see how it runs as a stock build if it's built correctly. I already ordered a new piston and top end so I can port one and reed valve it. for after that
@@BuildBreakFix oh cool
Hey I have a question I broke a ring it snagged the top of intake if I get rid of that little bit of damage, I’m going to be removing about 1 1/2 mms of material from the top of the intake I know that’s not supposed to be done, but I have to do it, so what else do I have to do to compensate for me raising the intake? I could really use your help please. Thank you sir.
Honestly if you fix the rings and the little ding won't matter any in cylinder wall if it's a "indent" if it's "raised" it will cause issue! Don't go crazy grinding off it or it changes the port durations. You can remove about 1 or 2 mm not to much will change! If the ring snagged on the port! You can bevel the edges of the port with small file from outside of the port inward toward where cylinder goes pretty easy! Bevel on ports walls won't hurt anything just dont go crazy deep lol!
@@BuildBreakFix OK honestly It is about 2 mm that I have to remove so anything right around there is OK try not to go over to?
@@BuildBreakFix and thank you for the information. No I don’t have to buy a new cylinder just sucks that paid $98 for a real piston the fucker broke I’m going to order an MS 380 piston.???
Also, I found a single ring Husqvarna piston. What do you think about that the dimensions are the same?
Nice. What kind of handle bar is that? How wide?
Those are Pro tapers ATV bars. 38inch wide! Very nice for motorized bicycle builds you ride on trails and such! I mostly ride that bike offroad!
Sweet bro got a good sound and looks like plenty of power for not broken in yet beyond my skill set but I'm getting there pretty sure I would get myself in trouble on that
I think after break in it's going to be a good runner!
@@BuildBreakFix awesome and my comment on your previous video I wasn't asking for an endorsement of your supplier only a link, so I could make my own evaluation of them, after which I did do a search and found them, and so far I am impressed just by their inventory and for the most part their prices, I hope to do business with them in the future.
Hey man...
Remember, it's a steel sleeve, different run in.
Heat cycles.
Not like oh wait 1 1/2 tank's @ 40 to 1.
Yeah I normally run it like this video about 15 minutes. about 8 times roughly. Yeah let it fully cool and go again! I guess just habit lol saying one tank! normally ends up being about that in end anyhow i guess lol! 🤣👍
@@BuildBreakFix
Like your mini shop and you got the skills.
So says a old broken down x- road racer.
I would like to compare notes.
Wanted to get in with the apple valley guys a couple years back and have a lengthy thread with Sean about blk boxes and such.
Keep on keeping on man.
Hey this is Eric I have a few questions, I had to buy a new Ms 046-460 chain saw head to put on my phantom 85 I had to buy a ms460 because phantom 85 blow the spark plug out of the head and so I helicoil it and it still didn't work so I bought A MS 460 how do I install it on the bottom end of my phantom
Why dont you just buy a spark plug insert? Seems to happen alot to phantom heads www.autozone.com/test-scan-and-specialty-tools/thread-repair/p/oemtools-14mm-spark-plug-rethreader-kit/265137_0_0
I did and that was blown out too
That engines a chick magnet now !!!
well goal will be run this stock ports and such see how it works! I already have a new top end coming! Going to port the hell out of it to perfect numbers lol! reed valve it and do full 22mm intake! Chamber pipe it to lol!
@@BuildBreakFix Have you ever messed with any jackshaft kits? Some say it's more trouble than worth. Other videos show jack shaft kits that look like they're running decent. I could understand it being a waste on a stock engine with no power. Since some power is lost turning the extra chains & sprockets,etc... But thinking on a 52mm chainsaw build with a stronger mid drive e-bike chain. Might be worth the money & hassle if you live in a hilly area.
How fast you think she'll run after break in
no idea yet lol! this one all stock ports! Going to run it see how it does! then cut this top end in half! do a proper timing video and then I already ordered a top end to port and window for reed setup and will make that one extrem lol!
Well she sounds like a beast. I'm very impressed with your work. Your a real deal genuine problem solver. You should be a mechanical engineer designing your own brand of motors.
Have all different types of parts connections and doesn't match up to the bottom head how do I build a spacer for it
There is no spacer for saw builds. Ms380, ms460. Ms66o has to be cut down even... Non of them use one but a ms881. So not really sure what your asking? Something not lining up or something like that you mean? Are you asking how to connect head to bottom half??? Watch this! Start at time may be what your asking 3:28 th-cam.com/video/FmNmS6UnIKQ/w-d-xo.html
The MS 460 in the phantom 85 jug
Ms380 is what they copied to make a phantom. Ms460 not same port design or pistion height. #1 reason these idiots using ms460 pistions blow there cranks apart constantly
top speed?
Not sure anymore was a while ago.
@@BuildBreakFix whar would the approx mad speed be? Q1: if i have a bike with gears will it work Q2: Does it have changable gears? Q3: can you start it when your stationary? Q4: is this called pedal start? if yeah is kick start when you start it stationary?]]]]]] so sorry for a bunch of questions ive been looking forward to buying one of these things. !!
Only thing is can barely hear you speaking
Yes! Chest mount cant hear me well with helmet on! Normally have gopro on helmet just not charged up. Other one had a bar so! On the fly kinda thing lol