I hated seeing that gecko in distress but the people were right to remove the infected eye cap. It probably hurt and caused discomfort, but it would be cruel to leave it in there. So while they had to hold the poor baby still, I understand they were doing it to help
I have a rescue bearded dragon that I just got like 3 weeks ago that has a lot of issues. BUT we're making him better.. check it out th-cam.com/play/PL1jBPLrR0jP0Tb20jZu4Ca-jnYBAeOHtKhttps.html://th-cam.com/play/PL1jBPLrR0jP0Tb20jZu4Ca-jnYBAeOHtK.html
@@JENNINA143 I heard, it's left over skin,eye shed,stuck shed that wasn't taken care of. I know, it's so sad, neglect from owner, I think. But heard a vetenarian helped take it out
Omfg that poor baby gecko had the worst stuck shed I've ever seen and 8 have 10 lizards now obviously I properly care for my baby's to the absolute best of my ability and have absolutely never had an issue like that there is no way that was so much worse than just stuck shed it was infected
The entire time I had a fat tailed African gecko I never had to help her shed. Its actually usually advised you don't, if its not entirely ready you can tear new skin off! If you put objects with rough edges in their terrarium (logs, rock, etc) they do this themselves... obviously extreme circumstances like the one with infected eye caps happen, THAT needed help.
That's what I came to ask. Why are they not able to shed on their own... is it because they can't, or because the owner likes doing it like pulling peeling skin from a sunburn?
@@abc123youandme usually stuck shed is an issue with husbandry, likely a humidity or dietary problem. I mainly work with snakes though they are similar in many ways, and sometimes when they move to a new home and are a bit stressed, ore they are on the older side, shedding can be harder and they might get. Some stuck.
@@mikahholman1940 - I doubt the owner was purposely keeping him in poor conditions just to ensure he couldn’t shed on his own, because the owner wanted to do it. First & foremost, because it was taken to a vet for assistance. If the owner wanted to be able to remove the skin themselves, it doesn’t make sense to take it to the vet before even trying. And that Gecko clearly didn’t have any skin removed prior to the vet doing it. I think they were just neglectful owners who weren’t maintaining the enclosure, water, and humidity levels. Moisture is the most important part of healthy shedding, I’d be willing to bet that it wasn’t given clean, fresh water regularly…and it wasn’t in a big enough dish that he could soak in it. The temperature probably wasn’t being properly monitored either, and he likely wasn’t being fed consistently. I genuinely hate people who take on the responsibility of a pet, but when the newness wears off they neglect them. They act like small reptiles can just be replaced if they die & it’s not a big deal. And when parents buy something like that for their kid, they HAVE to at least check to make sure the kid is properly caring for it. You can’t just trust that they know what they’re doing….because the animal is the one that suffers. People annoy me to no end these days!
The first time I saw somebody remove a infected eye cap from a lizard was in one of those emergency vet rescue videos and I genuinely thought they were pulling out his eye I now know that is not the case but it’s still freaked me out at first
Omg! The infected eye cap on that gecko! 😣. That had to have been miserable! I love getting to see the Chuckster!! He was as rad as a dragon can be! 😊. How’s it going having 3 dragons?! 😊❤️👍🏻
I WILL be in heaven after quarantine time. Right now I am more worried about Cheecho and then I worry about the other 2 getting a scale infection. It is rewarding to see how healthy and happy the dragons CNBD has raised as a community with everyone's knowledge and experience. I then look at Cheecho and the bond is deep because his existence has been shitty for awhile. I lived life as just "existing" for awhile. And I told little Cheecho that I know it's hard work to rehab himself but that he was in a great house and besides living at a vets house he was a lucky dragon as much as I feel lucky to have found him. GREAT QUESTION 👍
@@ChuckNorrizBeardedDragons I understand the bond between you and Cheecho! I love all my dragons, but Chimera being the sickest for a long time, and the never-ending medical regimen, we ended up with a special connection as well! 😊❤️👍🏻. You’re doing amazing! Excellent that you have him in quarantine! Be sure you wash yoir hands after working worh him, before toiching CJ or Lt Dan! Also, if you bathe them all in the same place, do Cheecho last, and really scrub after his bath!! 😊❤️👍🏻
I've never owned a reptile and don't really ever plan to but I have heard that the shedding process can be very stressful and or painful for them and unless they are ACTUALLY struggling to get it to shed on their own, don't peel it! Again I've only heard this from other reptile owners so I'm not sure is its true but at least be gentle with them.
It is only painful if it is premature, or if there is a medical issue if your reptile isn't producing enough lymphatic fluid during the shedding process. It actually shouldn't be painful and if it is that person should stop immediately. Discomfort around eye caps is reasonable, shedding is a very vulnerable time and I would hate to have some big weird creature with wiggley worms on either side of there torso trying to touch my eye ball when I can't see shit but my shedding fluid.
It is generally advised not to pull on shed. Soaking them can help the shed come loose (on beardies ) is what I’m most versed in I’ve had one for almost 4 years now. In certain cases you may have to help them get it started or if you stuck shed to help them remove it as it can cause infection among other problems. Not to mention it must be extremely uncomfortable for them. I have had to only help my Toothless with stuck shed a handful of times mostly nose and ear plugs.
The “pimple popper” lover I am was living my BEST LIFE 🔥 watching that eye cap whatever that was removal…. but the animal lover in me hurt so bad for that poor gecko… they must have been in horrific distress….
That little guys eyes were horrible!! How do they get stuff like that out on their own in the wild? Will other lizards help each other? It looked almost infected. Poor thing! 🥺
@@patriciamatevey4449 in the wild, they come into contact with sticks, rocks, dirt, etc. All of that wears away the shed and helps it come off. But our environments, soft safe and designed for hairless humans, aren't sufficient to help remove anything. The lizards are also much more sedentary as pets, meaning that they move less. All of this combines with the fact that we love and care for our pets to make assisting the lizards much more common than it would naturally be.
Reptiles do not need help shedding. It can cause harm to the new scales underneath. Yes, it maybe irritating for the reptile while shedding but it's better than an infection or damage
If you have to tug to get the skin off, that can and will irritate the skin. Unless its stuck just let the lizzard do it by itself. Or maybe let it soak in a warm bath to help with the irritation. Cases like with the lizzard that has those globs out of its eye was very necessary and i'm glad to see it was helped, the others really just need a warm bath.
Hey, Chuck Norriz, or anyone on here, will the gecko be able to see again after all that damage has been done? That's a build up of skin in their eyes, right? That's so sad that can happen. I hope they are able to see again😔
I hope so too. Clips were sent and or collected through others from my understanding that gecko was able to see fine after and yes that was a build up of shed.
If they are anything like snakes they should be fine 😊. Snakes have a lymphatic fluid that spreads between the old shed and the skin in order to slide out while protecting the skin. I do believe geckos have same
I had to help my leo a couple times last winter. She just shed again last week and she took care of it herself. I just had to get a few fingers that didn't come off all the way.
Hier sagen so viele, wie es ist. Wenn ein Gecko sich nicht häuten kann, fehlt es an Feuchtigkeit! Dann muss man die Feuchtigkeit erhöhen und nicht das Häuten übernehmen. Das ist unnötiger Stress für die Tiere. Das geht auch viel zu schnell. Man sollte sich über artgerechte Haltung informieren, bevor man sich Tiere zulegt. Schrecklich.
Can you use shed ease on crested gecko’s? My 1 yr old has been having really rough sheds the last 2 times. Humidity is good, he gets fed Pangea so I don’t know what’s causing it, but not sure what else to do?
I'm not too sure those clips were sent in and I made them into an edit. Yet I do own multiple bearded dragons and I use shed ease on them and it says reptile soak. So I would imagine so. But the creatures I'm used to are used to an arid environment and from my understanding geckos need more humidity. STAY RAD
These reptiles are in tremendous pain. When they close their eyes and jerk like that it's a universal sign that reptiles are under stress and pain. Please stop this fad.
they are not restrained and could walk away. Have you ever watched how much jerking, scratching , digging, and rubbing on things to help get it off. If they were in pain they would just walk away
Healthy reptiles will generally not need help. In fact it can be very dangerous to help and generally should only be done by a vet or with proper training.
Love your videos as I learn more about dragons, iguanas etc. But please help me to understand what the deal was withhis eyes. Obvs you didn't blind him so what was going on there?
Rubbing on stuff for weeks. Sometimes they cant get it all off or the humidity is too arid and they have no where to soak and the shed gets stuck and more will get stuck and thats why they are so dark in color. Stuck shed can then become impacted and cause lesions loss of limb movement. I just adopted a neglected dragon where that happened and so many layers caused a wound and the skin on hos nose is falling off down to raw skinso infection can leave with antibiotics. check it out th-cam.com/play/PL1jBPLrR0jP0Tb20jZu4Ca-jnYBAeOHtK.html
This makes me so angry. Reptiles do not need to be 'helped' to shed & if you must interfere, bathe them to help them shed. People who do this for click bait enrage me & do not deserve to own reptiles 🤬🤬
it absolutely doesnt and they sit there unrestrained. your reptiles probably wanted to get away because they weren't used to being handled. thanks for the help
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I hated seeing that gecko in distress but the people were right to remove the infected eye cap. It probably hurt and caused discomfort, but it would be cruel to leave it in there. So while they had to hold the poor baby still, I understand they were doing it to help
I have a rescue bearded dragon that I just got like 3 weeks ago that has a lot of issues. BUT we're making him better.. check it out th-cam.com/play/PL1jBPLrR0jP0Tb20jZu4Ca-jnYBAeOHtKhttps.html://th-cam.com/play/PL1jBPLrR0jP0Tb20jZu4Ca-jnYBAeOHtK.html
I was wondering what that was that they pulled out of the eye. Thanks.
Poor little thing, I can’t imagine how uncomfortable that was stuck in there.
@@JENNINA143 I heard, it's left over skin,eye shed,stuck shed that wasn't taken care of. I know, it's so sad, neglect from owner, I think. But heard a vetenarian helped take it out
@@wendydebois1685 ty!
Omfg that poor baby gecko had the worst stuck shed I've ever seen and 8 have 10 lizards now obviously I properly care for my baby's to the absolute best of my ability and have absolutely never had an issue like that there is no way that was so much worse than just stuck shed it was infected
The entire time I had a fat tailed African gecko I never had to help her shed. Its actually usually advised you don't, if its not entirely ready you can tear new skin off! If you put objects with rough edges in their terrarium (logs, rock, etc) they do this themselves... obviously extreme circumstances like the one with infected eye caps happen, THAT needed help.
That's what I came to ask. Why are they not able to shed on their own... is it because they can't, or because the owner likes doing it like pulling peeling skin from a sunburn?
@@abc123youandme usually stuck shed is an issue with husbandry, likely a humidity or dietary problem. I mainly work with snakes though they are similar in many ways, and sometimes when they move to a new home and are a bit stressed, ore they are on the older side, shedding can be harder and they might get. Some stuck.
@@abc123youandme the owner could just want to, and in that case I hope they are very careful and if there is any resistance, they stop immediately
@@mikahholman1940 - I doubt the owner was purposely keeping him in poor conditions just to ensure he couldn’t shed on his own, because the owner wanted to do it. First & foremost, because it was taken to a vet for assistance. If the owner wanted to be able to remove the skin themselves, it doesn’t make sense to take it to the vet before even trying. And that Gecko clearly didn’t have any skin removed prior to the vet doing it. I think they were just neglectful owners who weren’t maintaining the enclosure, water, and humidity levels. Moisture is the most important part of healthy shedding, I’d be willing to bet that it wasn’t given clean, fresh water regularly…and it wasn’t in a big enough dish that he could soak in it. The temperature probably wasn’t being properly monitored either, and he likely wasn’t being fed consistently. I genuinely hate people who take on the responsibility of a pet, but when the newness wears off they neglect them. They act like small reptiles can just be replaced if they die & it’s not a big deal. And when parents buy something like that for their kid, they HAVE to at least check to make sure the kid is properly caring for it. You can’t just trust that they know what they’re doing….because the animal is the one that suffers. People annoy me to no end these days!
@@DrAnderson1 Facts! I try to see the best in people, but some owners make it difficult
The first time I saw somebody remove a infected eye cap from a lizard was in one of those emergency vet rescue videos and I genuinely thought they were pulling out his eye
I now know that is not the case but it’s still freaked me out at first
Omg! The infected eye cap on that gecko! 😣. That had to have been miserable! I love getting to see the Chuckster!! He was as rad as a dragon can be! 😊. How’s it going having 3 dragons?! 😊❤️👍🏻
I WILL be in heaven after quarantine time. Right now I am more worried about Cheecho and then I worry about the other 2 getting a scale infection. It is rewarding to see how healthy and happy the dragons CNBD has raised as a community with everyone's knowledge and experience. I then look at Cheecho and the bond is deep because his existence has been shitty for awhile. I lived life as just "existing" for awhile. And I told little Cheecho that I know it's hard work to rehab himself but that he was in a great house and besides living at a vets house he was a lucky dragon as much as I feel lucky to have found him. GREAT QUESTION 👍
@@ChuckNorrizBeardedDragons I understand the bond between you and Cheecho! I love all my dragons, but Chimera being the sickest for a long time, and the never-ending medical regimen, we ended up with a special connection as well! 😊❤️👍🏻. You’re doing amazing! Excellent that you have him in quarantine! Be sure you wash yoir hands after working worh him, before toiching CJ or Lt Dan! Also, if you bathe them all in the same place, do Cheecho last, and really scrub after his bath!! 😊❤️👍🏻
Man these Lizard Unboxing videos are wild.
I've never owned a reptile and don't really ever plan to but I have heard that the shedding process can be very stressful and or painful for them and unless they are ACTUALLY struggling to get it to shed on their own, don't peel it! Again I've only heard this from other reptile owners so I'm not sure is its true but at least be gentle with them.
Thank you for the constructive criticism and I hope you have a great day stay rad
@@ChuckNorrizBeardedDragons lmao political reply...just don't respond
It is only painful if it is premature, or if there is a medical issue if your reptile isn't producing enough lymphatic fluid during the shedding process. It actually shouldn't be painful and if it is that person should stop immediately. Discomfort around eye caps is reasonable, shedding is a very vulnerable time and I would hate to have some big weird creature with wiggley worms on either side of there torso trying to touch my eye ball when I can't see shit but my shedding fluid.
You should only help them if there's some thing wrong
It is generally advised not to pull on shed. Soaking them can help the shed come loose (on beardies ) is what I’m most versed in I’ve had one for almost 4 years now. In certain cases you may have to help them get it started or if you stuck shed to help them remove it as it can cause infection among other problems. Not to mention it must be extremely uncomfortable for them. I have had to only help my Toothless with stuck shed a handful of times mostly nose and ear plugs.
dude that eye shed was awesome you and chucky rock!!!
Thanks
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The popping noises gets me every time! LOL I have watched ALL of your videos and they are so cool!
Glad you like them! and thank you so much
The “pimple popper” lover I am was living my BEST LIFE 🔥 watching that eye cap whatever that was removal…. but the animal lover in me hurt so bad for that poor gecko… they must have been in horrific distress….
Yet people get mad if I assist stuck shed. Well we now see what happens if not properly addressed.
That little guys eyes were horrible!! How do they get stuff like that out on their own in the wild? Will other lizards help each other? It looked almost infected. Poor thing! 🥺
Lmao me too!
@@patriciamatevey4449 I think in the wild he would have been someone else's dinner.
@@patriciamatevey4449 in the wild, they come into contact with sticks, rocks, dirt, etc. All of that wears away the shed and helps it come off. But our environments, soft safe and designed for hairless humans, aren't sufficient to help remove anything. The lizards are also much more sedentary as pets, meaning that they move less. All of this combines with the fact that we love and care for our pets to make assisting the lizards much more common than it would naturally be.
I love seeing you help your reptiles shed when it's time. I think most of them enjoyed the skin treatment. I want to see reptile spas.😄
I should start one 😆
@@ChuckNorrizBeardedDragons Why not?🤗
Reptiles do not need help shedding. It can cause harm to the new scales underneath. Yes, it maybe irritating for the reptile while shedding but it's better than an infection or damage
Awww 🥰 love them ❤My son just lost he’s beardie 😢he was a rescue poor Tigs
😮😢😊🎉….those were my emotions watching that infected eye cap removal!
YOUR TELLING ME! omg a subscriber sent me that clip
If the older scale is not yet riped or matured, this could be painful 😢
Did they save more than 30% on car insurance?
Some of this are so disturbing but most so satisfying! Wow the eyes and nose pill had to feel so good for them 😮
If you have to tug to get the skin off, that can and will irritate the skin. Unless its stuck just let the lizzard do it by itself. Or maybe let it soak in a warm bath to help with the irritation. Cases like with the lizzard that has those globs out of its eye was very necessary and i'm glad to see it was helped, the others really just need a warm bath.
Great educated response.
Hey, Chuck Norriz, or anyone on here, will the gecko be able to see again after all that damage has been done? That's a build up of skin in their eyes, right? That's so sad that can happen. I hope they are able to see again😔
I hope so too. Clips were sent and or collected through others from my understanding that gecko was able to see fine after and yes that was a build up of shed.
That one is especially for all the armchair know alls who constantly post that you shouldn't help with shedding ❤👋
@@lynneturner553 this gecko definitely needed help, especially his eyes. Sometimes these lizards have to have help by humans🤷♀️ poor little guy😢
If they are anything like snakes they should be fine 😊. Snakes have a lymphatic fluid that spreads between the old shed and the skin in order to slide out while protecting the skin. I do believe geckos have same
They can now smell the colors!
Poor gecko .. no wonder there hasn't been many GEICO commercials now a days 😞😢
You didn't lie, this was the best!
That has to feel good
I've read on more than one occasion, this is very painful for the creature to go through!
You should let the lizard bath in warm water and you can peel of the old skin very easily and with no discomfort too the lizard
The idea is not to pull it off with tweezers as they can cause more pain but for eyes shedding in geckos definitely use tweezers
Poor babies. I can only imagine how much better that feels, especially when it's removed from their eyes or nose
omg please tell me these are vets or serious professionals and not just random people doing this 😭😭
DON'T pull skin off of geckos
ok
Ellos nacieron con el proceso de cambio de piel, asi q eso es natural, NO LAS MOLESTEN, NO AL MALTRATO ANIMAL 😡
Not abuse but it is hurtful yes.
thanks for the translation
Thankyou for the words of kindness. Stay Rad
Yes. That was good.
This is so fascinating to me. I really like a big eye cap removal. Hello there from Kentucky USA
I was at mammoth caves last year and I went ziplining. There is a video on the channel from there
@@ChuckNorrizBeardedDragons that is great. I’ve been to the cave, so far no zipline.
My Leo is shedding currently I help with the shed sometimes if needed she does it right in front of me and eats it in front of me so no problem
Holy cow I didn't know they ate their shed until I seen Lt. Dan eat his shed
@@ChuckNorrizBeardedDragons lol
How did they shed before people owned them? It comes off when it's dry enough and ready on its own
I had to help my leo a couple times last winter. She just shed again last week and she took care of it herself. I just had to get a few fingers that didn't come off all the way.
I didn't know their eyes shed too that's crazy
Your telling me.
I didn't know I needed to start watching shit like this in my life....
Hier sagen so viele, wie es ist. Wenn ein Gecko sich nicht häuten kann, fehlt es an Feuchtigkeit! Dann muss man die Feuchtigkeit erhöhen und nicht das Häuten übernehmen. Das ist unnötiger Stress für die Tiere. Das geht auch viel zu schnell.
Man sollte sich über artgerechte Haltung informieren, bevor man sich Tiere zulegt. Schrecklich.
ok thanks
Ong that gecko I am squeamish over eyes
I know ... right?
Can you use shed ease on crested gecko’s? My 1 yr old has been having really rough sheds the last 2 times. Humidity is good, he gets fed Pangea so I don’t know what’s causing it, but not sure what else to do?
I'm not too sure those clips were sent in and I made them into an edit. Yet I do own multiple bearded dragons and I use shed ease on them and it says reptile soak. So I would imagine so. But the creatures I'm used to are used to an arid environment and from my understanding geckos need more humidity. STAY RAD
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Ouch. Please use gentler utensils, especially around the eyes
Does any certain tool come to your mind that I could try? I am not opposed to trying new things
These reptiles are in tremendous pain. When they close their eyes and jerk like that it's a universal sign that reptiles are under stress and pain. Please stop this fad.
Agree
they are not restrained and could walk away. Have you ever watched how much jerking, scratching , digging, and rubbing on things to help get it off. If they were in pain they would just walk away
Agree to disagree
One of the sad things about d9mesticating these guys is they have small enclosures and not enough space and rocks to properly rub the stuff off
What happens in nature when there are no humans around to assist them with the shedding process?
As much as I’d like to get a lizard swing these made me realize they’re a lot more work and I work too much to help in these situations
Healthy reptiles will generally not need help. In fact it can be very dangerous to help and generally should only be done by a vet or with proper training.
On a list of weird, kinda gross stuff that is surprisingly satisfying to watch.
My list is:
Blackhead removal
Hoof trimming
And this
I watch all those as well and thats why the edits i do are same similar
Can tell some of them are like oh yeah that’s the spot when peeling away the shed haha
Love your videos as I learn more about dragons, iguanas etc. But please help me to understand what the deal was withhis eyes. Obvs you didn't blind him so what was going on there?
I think it's stuck shed that became infected
That was a clip from a subscriber sent in to myself. From my understanding he is OK now.
I hope if you own the Leo, you do a better job caring for his humidity.
Oh believe me I will do everything that say caravan I have other dragons too and they all are very pampered creatures
How do they manage this in the wild?
Rubbing on stuff for weeks. Sometimes they cant get it all off or the humidity is too arid and they have no where to soak and the shed gets stuck and more will get stuck and thats why they are so dark in color. Stuck shed can then become impacted and cause lesions loss of limb movement. I just adopted a neglected dragon where that happened and so many layers caused a wound and the skin on hos nose is falling off down to raw skinso infection can leave with antibiotics. check it out th-cam.com/play/PL1jBPLrR0jP0Tb20jZu4Ca-jnYBAeOHtK.html
@@ChuckNorrizBeardedDragons ok
This makes me so angry. Reptiles do not need to be 'helped' to shed & if you must interfere, bathe them to help them shed. People who do this for click bait enrage me & do not deserve to own reptiles 🤬🤬
What is that green stuff that was pulled out of the eye?
Infected eye caps
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Didn't see a single shed, just a bunch of lizards. Wtf
Please tell me the lil Gecko is doing okay now. Poor baby’s eyes must’ve felt awful
I would assume so. someone sent me that footage and that is actually a vet doing the procedure. My understanding is that it was ok
@@ChuckNorrizBeardedDragons oh thank goodness. Poor lil fella
It looked like you were pulling his eyes out
That was a clip sent to me and I think a veterinarian did that procedure.
Whoa… was that sound for real?
idk Maybe?
@@ChuckNorrizBeardedDragons That’s strangely satisfying sounding.
You know that feels good… lol
Did that affect its vision? 😢
That was from a veterinarian, from my understanding he re-covered fine.
i thought the gecko lost itseye
Somtime u help them shed and somtime u don’t this are the times u do 0:59
It reminds me the time after when I got sunburnt......😱
Can they actually get those eye caps by them selves? Can they see through those eye caps I suspect NO?
that was a very over grown eye cap at a vet
Omg.. pls NEVER remove ur reptiles shed for them..
why not. there are definite times you need to help.
I think that one gecko with the eye needed help... You can help pull of the shed but only when its ready.
In the first part, all that being taken out of the eye is not a normal amount, right?
no that must have been a neglected animal for awhile. good thing it received treatment and was fine after
OMG, the removal of the eye camis so hard to watch.
These poor reptiles are in pain why are you doing this? I have had many reptiles. You all know this hurts them right
it absolutely doesnt and they sit there unrestrained. your reptiles probably wanted to get away because they weren't used to being handled. thanks for the help
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What happened to the gekos eyes? Looks dreadful!!
Idk too much about the gecko a subscriber sent me that clip
H.f.s. man !!
Whats with that eye thing ?
What that thing came out of it eye
Infected Eye cap and a lot of shed.
@@ChuckNorrizBeardedDragons oh
Why didn't you leave it to shed on its own - aa nature intended.
I did not like the video. A lot of clips made me feel uncomfortable. Like the infected eye or the one eating its skin...
thanks for the constructive criticism. it will help future videos get better. I strive for perfection.
Wtf was in its eyes?
Stuck shed that had become impacted
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