Rode my 1190 from Portland OR to Coldfoot AK and back in 17 days. 6000 miles, loads of highway and dirt roads and the bike made it all seem easy while fully loaded with cold weather clothes, camping gear, drone, and my 180 lb self. Made it over 250 miles on one tank of fuel two times with all that gear on it, what a machine.
You’re the person who introduced me to the dual sport/adventure market many years ago. I’d like to inform you that I just bought an Africa Twin after wanting one since 2016. It’s my first “street” bike. It’s been amazing so far. Thank you!
What timing. I have been considering selling my 2014 1190R and getting something smaller. then I watch this video and you convince me to keep her. It was my dream bike and has taken me places I only dreamed of going. I cut my teeth on a Suzuki 650 Vstrom for a few years and when I got on the 1190R it was almost like the bike drove itself. Off-road became so much easier, road trips to meet up with buddies to motocamp became less of a chore and it gave me such confidence. I guess I had forgotten all of that. Thanks for rekindling my relationship with my dream girl. Good luck with the auction Tyler!
Hah, I have spent 2020 trying to convince myself to sell my 2016 1190 and buy a 790adv but every time I ride it I fall back in love with it. I'll never sell it...
Nah. I would keep that beast. I am not letting go of my 1090 anytime soon. Its bigger, taller and heavier but for the "liter" class of adv bikes, its fairly light in comparison, high power and with improved off road capabilities. 1190 is a fantastic beast.
My 1190 S is exactly like the one in the video and I’ve done basically sport bike rides fast in mountains at full lean and muddy adventure rides. Best bike! Love the cornering abs!
@@interceptordave I considered it also but 790 is still 470lbs wet before adding mods. I think a 701LR is a better alternative due to less weight, great suspension and electronics.
@@reinhart482 Good point about the weight alright. 701LR was discontinued at the end of 2020, my guess is to prevent it distracting potential 701 Norden buyers...
I bought this bike after watching your first video on it. It even came with an Everide sticker. I’m gonna keep riding it into the sunset. It’s exactly what I wanted.
I was about to buy the new Yamaha T7 but this video inspired me to look into the 1190... and I’m picking one up tomorrow for $500 less than the new T7. Twice the bike for less money. Cheers
In The last month going 50+ down a major arterial a SUV pulled truck in front of me and then literally stopped because he couldn’t get into a parking lot. I clamped on the brakes swerved to get around behind it I swear I slid the bike and before I blink I was around the car. I didn’t even see going around the car the electronics on this bike saved my life!! None of the other bikes I’ve ever owned would have done the magic this bike did, KTM rocks!!!
I have the same bike, and came to the same conclusions: I wouldn't swap it for any other bike on the market, no matter the price. I'm not saying it's the best bike ever made, it's just perfect for me and it fits my needs so well in a way that I was not expecting to be possible. It's a MY2014, I bought it a couple years ago with 43'000km under her belt and stacked up 25k more, 50% commuting on highway, 5% offroad. Tried it with all controls off and thought I was going to return it to the dealer after a couple miles, Turning on the electronics turned it in a very enjoyable machine, never felt it was too much for me again. I took it in easy enduro rides in the muddy woods along with specialized bikes and felt comfortable even with no experience at all. It is a commuter, a tourer, a fun bike and an off road capable beast, with appropriate tires. Too bad there is no bike matching the stats of this, I will have hard time when I will be forced to change it for something else because of the emission restrictions here in Europe.
I bought a new 1190 in 2016 after having a previous 2014 model. Also bought a new 1290 SAS in 2017. Both are keepers ... bargain of the used motorcycle market are the 2014 to 2016 KTM 1190s.
I test rode a 1090 and that bike was absolutely determined to introduce me to a cop or an EMT. Like right. effing. NOW! I managed to complete my demo day ride without either happening, but the bike was clearly beyond my skill level. I cannot imagine ever becoming able to extract even a fraction of this bike's potential. That said, this 1190 is an amazing bang for the buck bike in this category, for the right rider. You dont have to be Chris Burch, but if you want to take this bike onto trails, you probably should be already taking a GS800 or DR650 to its limits. Or stick to the pavement and gravel roads on your excellent ride previously owned by a cool and famous guy. Either way, have fun, be well and Peace!
1190R owner here 🙋♂️ Had her since 2016 and I still love her You’re so right, they really do surprise sport bike guys off the line and up to about 100 on road. And even on those nice twisty back roads Off road she is heavy yes if coming from a MX bike but she handles her self really well and I feel better off-road with her than my 250 SX-F at times! Brilliant video, you live in a beautiful area, those go-pro shots at the end were stunning! Shame to hear your selling her, no doubt it’s a tough decision but you got a family and you gotta do what’s right by them 100%, respect that being your reasoning. All the best man! Winston
I was on a klr650 and my buddy kept bugging me to go to the ktm demo day coming up (2016). I went, I rode the 1190R and bought it that day. Many, many miles later I haven't found a replacement for what it can do. It's my grocery getter, canyon carver, and BDR trail bike. It is a commitment bike (height, power, weight) and is in no way right for beginners or those not very competent already. Its not that it isn't easy to ride, its TOO easy, which will have you deep in a dirt corner before you know it, or well into 100+ on the highway before it feels fast. If respected its just amazing. I see a ton sold in pristine condition as the rider just wasn't up to handling that level of bike. The street version isn't as capable off road, my friend had one, was a better rider than me, and I easily out rode him on dirt. He finally stripped off the 50/50's and made it into his touring bike which he loves, drags pegs and everything. Worth a bid but I've already got one.
I had a fast Benelli 1130 Amazonas. Same power but lighter, an 1130 in a 899 frame. The 1190 doesn't disappoint it is the Swiss army knife. It will go there if you are up to it. Very capable on and off road.
I've been waiting for ages for you to do this review! When I was shopping for a bike a 3 years ago this was the ONLY bike that met all my criteria. Sport bike like power, 19' front spoke wheels, off road and touring capable, oh and in my budget. If budget wasn't an issue then the only other bike was the mulitstarda enduro. It's such as great bike but. I have ridden the 1090r and it felt significantly lighter off the kickstand and going slow over obstacles. There was alot more going on than just removing the centre stand to make the bike much better to ride. It was also a lot smoother and a little smaller. The other issue I have is slow tight corners on the dirt, like switchbacks. Oh and the F'ing heat. It's a hot bike but some mods can help with that. But 3 years on and I still love it. It sit's in it's own unique segment of the ADV market and I've been spoiled, which makes it hard to buy another bike. I now want a more dirt orientated bike but I don't want to give up power or the electronic suspension or the power modes or the safety features. If only KTM made such a bike.... Oh wait they did. It's called the 1190r....:)
The best ADV bike is the one you love, damn the specs. Best of luck with the auction. I hope you can get a healthy buffer from it and someone gets lots of smiles with it!
I just got mine streetable again and I forgot how much I love it. This video reminds me to keep it. I'm still getting confused, surprised, and funny faces when I leave people in the dust.
Love my 1090R. "The Mighty 1090!" or "The Trophy Truck on Two Wheels," they call it. Take it everywhere, double or single track, trails, twisties, gravel, snow or mud.....sand is still scary but what a fun bike! Of the "Liter" sized Adv bikes, its definitely up there among the best. Excellent suspension for tuning for your needs(twisties, weight, off road etc), traction control is basic, lots of mods, looks good. Its a tall bike which can make it difficult at times but the suspension really helps. If all you do is take it down gravel roads or whatever don't feel bad. Taking it through the tight stuff is no joke but its fun. Power can be managed with some good clutch and throttle control. Tight places are more difficult, yes. It would be like finessing a Baja Truck down an ATV trail. ;)
I've got a KTM 1190 Adventure 'R' which I've got fully tricked-out with Rottweiler Performance intake & fuelling systems, plus a Scotts steering damper, also a Wings Short Exhaust (sans baffle) and with a Wings heat deflector system... plus a stack of other farkles to improve it's ride qualities & robustness for off road riding (e.g. Rumbux Upper Crash Bars and an AltRider Skid Plate, axle sliders, etc). Having left behind the deserts of the UAE & Oman, these days I ride in the vast expanses of red-dirt-road Africa and, suffice to say, that KTM goes like a veritable guided missile... and off-road it's a total joy to ride, especially so when standing up on the 'Black Dog CycleWorks' foot-pegs that I've farkled onto it. Put bluntly, there is no way I would sell it;... indeed they can bury it with me (and, with all that performance, it will indeed more than probably be the death of me... but, if you gotta go, then what a great way to go it would be!). Should add that I also own a BMW R1200 GSA (for on-road riding) and a Royal Enfield 500 Classic (for the grins).
Almost bought one a year ago. Owned by dealer/ex racer himself. He said similar things about it. My eye was fixed on the shiny ones. Lol. Dang! Maybe another look in order. Thanks man!
I have the same color 1190 I bought back in 2015 for 14K and I love it. It is such a good bike, does everything well. my only complaint is the stock seat, can’t ride longer than 1-2hrs on it so I had to get the KTM aftermarket seat which is marginally better.
Nice review, too bad you felt the need to sell. Got an 1190S when it first came out and rode it 250 miles today in the NH hills. This Beast loves the throttle... twisties, unimproved roads, and cruises the freeway at speed. Still loving it! Looked at Duc but, mine is paid for! FWIW your brake fluid looks a tad dark.
Bought a 1190r last year. It was still in its crate. So "new" but years old. My first motorcycle! I am still scared of it, but I push through my fear and am learning more each day. The offroad tires make me nervous but they seem to grip ok. I take it on the dirt roads where I live and appreciate the rider modes because it allows some rear fish tailing fun. It is tall and heavy, the only drawback in my opinion. I think a rekluse (spelling?) Clutch would be a nice mod.
I also think very highly of the 1190 vs the 1190R...which is why when I was shopping in 2015 I bought the S instead of the R... 1) I was concerned and intimidated about such a big bike in the dirt (which is the only place I prefer to ride) and the 1190S is an inch lower, plus the seat can be moved to a lower position. Nearly 2” lower seat height! 2) A big bike off road meant I wanted maximum traction. The 1190S has 1” wider front and rear tires than the R. 3) I have never known how to set up a suspension, so I wanted something to do it for me. 4) I wasn’t sure if I wanted lean angle sensing, but I was intimidated by the bike and wanted as much safety as I could get. It saved me from wrecking 2-3 times. Don’t know how bad it would have been and don’t care. The R does not have the lean angle sensing. 5) The bigger windshield helps. My buddy who bought the R also bought a larger windshield. 6) The S was $2,000 cheaper than the R because they would not haggle on the R and had a very low dealer rebate. So I bought the S and used the money I saved for TKC 80’s and crash bars so I would be closer to the R off road. I had so much left over, I bought upper crash bars, rear crash bars with rotopax, heated grips, the Bad Fuel/ABS/TC settings dongle, turn signal cancellation upgrade and a Black Dog Skidplate...none of which my buddy’s 1190R had! 7) The 1190S had a 2 year warranty, the R was 6 or 12 mos. 8) I did not like the close fender on either bike and thought mud would clog it. It only did it once, but I added the R fender to my S which gave me a 1” larger gap. You could not do that with the R. 9) The S rips in the turns due to the smaller rims size, yet the smaller rim has never impacted me in the dirt. 10) With 15,000 miles of dirt riding on my 1190S, I thought I was outgrowing the suspension. But on the COBDR last week with my buddy on his 690 and the other buddy on his Africa Twin Adventure, I am just fine with the suspension. I pound it and it works. You are correct, the 1190S was - and is - a true unspoken hero...
If you're really going around the world & need the Swiss Army knife bike, this is in the argument for sure, great bike. If like me, your ADV is your second bike, meant to ride to the trail or take a few week long off-road trips, pushing heavy single track rough terrain, the 790R is a more capable off-road. Recently went single track w/ 1090, 790R & 390 ADV; 790R was clearly most capable when we switched on heavy single track due to suspension, weight, how low it carries its weight & power. 1090 & 1190 bring extra higher center weight w/ unneeded off-road power; 95 HP in Rally mode is all you'll ever need. Sure, Chris Birch can kill it on an 1190 but the common rider isn't Chris, & he's taken the 790R 12' in the air when pushing it. I personally would take the 1190 for a road trip & street over the 790. Think you may get some debate about the 1190 being the "fastest" KTM ADV. From the light, yes, running the canyon roads wide open or track, people are pretty big fans of the 1290 ADV's geometry, ability to plant & additional HP over the 1190 plus tech, don't see how the 1190 can be faster in real world street riding.
I've got a golden-orange one, bloody murder machine yanks on the chain like crazy whenever I take it for a stroll, almost prefer to leave it in "rain mode"
As usual, this review comes in JUST AFTER i parted from my 2014 :-) I enjoyed it very much, only things I didn't like were its front wheel lack of strength, and poor front suspension capacity for longer rocky rides.
Well - I tried around the world. Broke down several times - changed engine 3 times - completely. Right now I am doing a complete service after 150 000 KM trough America. Doesn't look at all as shiny as yours... But well - still can't sell it either. ;-/)
Just bought one of these because of this video and others like it. I couldn't be happier. I feel like I actually have the best adventure bike on the streets. Oh and the one I got had only 3,685 mi, which means I'm winning.
I really like your videos and reviews, but I think this is an unfair comparison. The 1290 S/R models weigh as much as the 1190, the heavier model you compare the 1190 to is the T -touring model with a much bigger tank. Also, the 1090 doesn't come with simply progressive springs, but with heavier fork springs and a brand new anti-bottoming PDS shock which is a huge upgrade to the ones on the 1190s. But to be fair, I agree with you. I own a 1090R but still think the 1190R was the best among the 1X90 lineup.
Amazing video review! The scenic views and the bike shots are just amazing! I'm riding a bmw but I'm looking at the 790 Adventure and the 1190 Adventure! I think this vid convinced me the 1190 Adventure is the better bike.
It may be a while before I grab one. Gotta put the family first! I'd also like to see how they hold up over a few years... I'm a bit of a cheapo so I like the used bikes :D
@@eveRide Someone lend this man his T700 please! - Perhaps a wealthy Australian fan with a high mileage bike? (S)he shall receive an instant boost in resale value, Tyler gets to ride, make content and support his family and us - the poor and unfamous - we may get to see drone footage of another timed run on the commute and an unbiased review of what - dare I say it - could be the NEW "KLR650"!!!
If I’d had the money I’d just give you the price for it and have you keep it my friend so you’d not have to sell it!! It’s the best bike I’ve ever owned!
Ha! I did not read the whole title. I saw new video from eveRide and said, hell yeah. Whole time watching I was thinking, this seems like a sales pitch. Oh, it is. Good luck on the sale, dude🤙
Idk what to buy. I want a bike I can pound highway with but also hit fire roads. Originally I wanted a t7 but it’s too small for a passenger. The Africa twin is cool but I may get bored of it. I think the 1190 is nice but I worry about ktm reliability
I don’t have a lot of money but want to pick back up riding. What bike would y’all wonderful folks recommend and about how much could I expect to spend?
Depends on what you want to do. DRZ400S for dual sport riding. Solid and dependable. They typically sell for 2000-4000 depending on the year and condition. Glad to have another rider getting back into the sport!
Prefer the 950/990 off road but the newer bike is more powerful on road. I think ktm went the wrong way with the 1190. The 950/990 is the perfect compromise adventure bike between street use and off-road capability. Can’t believe how good the design is after almost 20 years!
This video gave me the screaming thigh sweats ! I've recovered enough to realize that there is no way I could ever rise to the challenge of using most of its 150 horses. My helmet's off to anyone who can ride the 1190 even close to it's potential !
I never (almost) full open the throttle from low speed, so in first to ......, it's hammering so hard and really the steering is almost pulling out of your hands, this is not comfy but at the other hand you can drive very smoothly and still pull up fast. This bike does it all.
Sorry to hear that you have to sell it due to (possible) financial constraints. Although, economically, it's a smart move, small bikes are more fun and cheaper, right?
Now, where’s that like button? Oh, it’s right above my comment. But where’s the subscribe button? Ah, found it, it’s below the like button and to the right. Ok, pressed it, BOOM. But wait, why is there some some sort of bell? Well, guess I’m gonna click that too.
What are the weights your comparing? 1190s vs 1290s are almost the same weight. unless you're comparing to 1290T... but better comparison would be 1290s. This review also completely overlooks 1190r vs 1290r, which are both better offroad then the 1190s.
Funny I was just considering one couple of days ago, especially comparing how much bang you get for your buck. However let me ask you and please be honest : isn't it too fast? Like way beyond whats legal and impossible to exploit without either losing our licence or worst? If it could get downtuned to 100hp I'd feel safer.. proof that KTM is crazy is that motorcyclist like me try to figure out how to lower to power output of the engine lol.
Never understood the fascination with these liter ADV bikes, I've always found it better to buy a sport tourer and a lighter dirt oriented tourer, even if it means grabbing the older model, bikes haven't really been improving at the pace they did 30 years ago.
For us that lve in the flat states and have to drive 600 miles to find something worth riding (Florida) a litre bike does it. Of course 150lbs less from a 400cc single is great, but to get there and enjoy it a litre bis need it.
@@cabezamiami Well, that is quite the dedication. To be honest, at that point, I'd just lump the bike in my van :D . I've read about the prairies, never experienced it though, here in Europe, when you have a flat piece of land that stretches for 50km, you already start going crazy, I can't imagine what 20times that would feel, but if I were to do it on a bike, I'd want a liter one :) .
Did you ever talk about breaking your back on this bike in one of your videos? What are the details? I think I may bid on this thing unless you talk me out of it :)
Is the 1290SAR really that much heavier and more of a handful offroad? Also, money aside, If KTM were to actually give you a choice, would you still choose the 1190A or would you go the 1290SAR? Every review states there's so much more torque down low on a 1290. To me, the 1290SAR looks better, too.
Actually recently traded a 990 for a 1290 R and don't think I'll personally be looking back. The 1290 feels lighter( I know it isn't but it feels it) and is exponentially smoother on the pavement. Feels more planted and comfortable off-road especially in sand. I was never comfortable doing any real mileage on the 990 and while I haven't taken the 1290 out for its paces on the highway I can tell you its a lot more comfortable on the street without giving up the off-road ability (at least to my admittedly mild skill set). Oh and then there's the fuel range, Although I did like the raw feeling of the 990.
NAILED IT! I OWN 2. Plus the 1190S has spoked tubeless unlike the newer S models (17/19 wheels) with mag wheels. In July 2020 I bought a 2014 1190S where I live in FL, put on 1500 miles on her in one month, racing the Tail of the Dragon, TN and NC twisties. I love this bike so much, I just now bought another one 2015 for WA state when I come visit for 1+ months every summer. Both Orange, lower mileage for the cost of one new 1290. Just put 2000 miles on Sunburst this last 2 weeks already. BTW you need to be 5-10 or taller, but it is the most comfortable bike ever for hip and knee angles too 👍😎 ps love ya brother @everide I will ride with you in UT one day soon
ME: "No more KTMs." After the motor in my 2013 ktm 690 duke gernaded from a rocker arm bearing failure, I promised I would never get another KTM. Also ME: Putting a bid on the bike.
The 1290 is choked from the factory due to Euro-4. A simple airbox swap makes it rip in a way that only a 1300cc bike can. Takes nothing from the 1190, but the larger motor is much, much stronger with minimal work. And no, the same mods on an 1190 won't make it as fast.
Can anyone please explain to why there no love for the 690 enduro r on this channel ? i value everides experience and he doesn't seem to like it but i dont fully understand why. ( before i buy it )
Had a 690 myself, on a 950 now But the 690 was a fun and nimble motorcycle, offroad riding was fun and it can do highway too (Not comfy but still) I've taken it for lots of adventures and I never had an issue with it, to me it's one of the best thumpers out there. Power wise only one other thumper comes close, the Honda XR650R
The Basitin Engineer off-road capability’s .. its it the best for its category? Cause honesty I just want a 500exc but with only one bike I’d be doing a rebuild every 6 months with how often I ride. And I don’t really want to be limited by a bike that’s designed to just be a short trips to the trail sort of bike. Not a fan the bigger adv either.. suitcase riding on gravel roads isn’t really my thing I’d rather take my 4x4 if I’m going to be weighed down on dirt roads. I want a bike I can do trail riding single and double track all while being about to commute to work sort of bike.
Rode my 1190 from Portland OR to Coldfoot AK and back in 17 days. 6000 miles, loads of highway and dirt roads and the bike made it all seem easy while fully loaded with cold weather clothes, camping gear, drone, and my 180 lb self. Made it over 250 miles on one tank of fuel two times with all that gear on it, what a machine.
You’re the person who introduced me to the dual sport/adventure market many years ago. I’d like to inform you that I just bought an Africa Twin after wanting one since 2016. It’s my first “street” bike. It’s been amazing so far. Thank you!
What timing. I have been considering selling my 2014 1190R and getting something smaller. then I watch this video and you convince me to keep her. It was my dream bike and has taken me places I only dreamed of going. I cut my teeth on a Suzuki 650 Vstrom for a few years and when I got on the 1190R it was almost like the bike drove itself. Off-road became so much easier, road trips to meet up with buddies to motocamp became less of a chore and it gave me such confidence. I guess I had forgotten all of that. Thanks for rekindling my relationship with my dream girl. Good luck with the auction Tyler!
Hah, I have spent 2020 trying to convince myself to sell my 2016 1190 and buy a 790adv but every time I ride it I fall back in love with it. I'll never sell it...
Nah. I would keep that beast. I am not letting go of my 1090 anytime soon. Its bigger, taller and heavier but for the "liter" class of adv bikes, its fairly light in comparison, high power and with improved off road capabilities. 1190 is a fantastic beast.
My 1190 S is exactly like the one in the video and I’ve done basically sport bike rides fast in mountains at full lean and muddy adventure rides. Best bike! Love the cornering abs!
@@interceptordave I considered it also but 790 is still 470lbs wet before adding mods. I think a 701LR is a better alternative due to less weight, great suspension and electronics.
@@reinhart482 Good point about the weight alright. 701LR was discontinued at the end of 2020, my guess is to prevent it distracting potential 701 Norden buyers...
I own a 2014 KTM 1190.
The thing always put a smile on my face. ALWAYS.
I bought this bike after watching your first video on it. It even came with an Everide sticker. I’m gonna keep riding it into the sunset. It’s exactly what I wanted.
I have owned 1190s here for 9 years! This motorbike has a fantastic quality of construction, the best weighing and throttle that you enjoy!
I bought an 1190 because of this video. Hopefully it's as good as he says
I was about to buy the new Yamaha T7 but this video inspired me to look into the 1190... and I’m picking one up tomorrow for $500 less than the new T7. Twice the bike for less money. Cheers
You will love it. It rips so hard.
How is/was the 1190?
In The last month going 50+ down a major arterial a SUV pulled truck in front of me and then literally stopped because he couldn’t get into a parking lot. I clamped on the brakes swerved to get around behind it I swear I slid the bike and before I blink I was around the car. I didn’t even see going around the car the electronics on this bike saved my life!! None of the other bikes I’ve ever owned would have done the magic this bike did, KTM rocks!!!
I have the same bike, and came to the same conclusions: I wouldn't swap it for any other bike on the market, no matter the price. I'm not saying it's the best bike ever made, it's just perfect for me and it fits my needs so well in a way that I was not expecting to be possible.
It's a MY2014, I bought it a couple years ago with 43'000km under her belt and stacked up 25k more, 50% commuting on highway, 5% offroad. Tried it with all controls off and thought I was going to return it to the dealer after a couple miles, Turning on the electronics turned it in a very enjoyable machine, never felt it was too much for me again. I took it in easy enduro rides in the muddy woods along with specialized bikes and felt comfortable even with no experience at all. It is a commuter, a tourer, a fun bike and an off road capable beast, with appropriate tires. Too bad there is no bike matching the stats of this, I will have hard time when I will be forced to change it for something else because of the emission restrictions here in Europe.
I bought a new 1190 in 2016 after having a previous 2014 model. Also bought a new 1290 SAS in 2017. Both are keepers ... bargain of the used motorcycle market are the 2014 to 2016 KTM 1190s.
I test rode a 1090 and that bike was absolutely determined to introduce me to a cop or an EMT. Like right. effing. NOW! I managed to complete my demo day ride without either happening, but the bike was clearly beyond my skill level. I cannot imagine ever becoming able to extract even a fraction of this bike's potential.
That said, this 1190 is an amazing bang for the buck bike in this category, for the right rider. You dont have to be Chris Burch, but if you want to take this bike onto trails, you probably should be already taking a GS800 or DR650 to its limits.
Or stick to the pavement and gravel roads on your excellent ride previously owned by a cool and famous guy.
Either way, have fun, be well and Peace!
2020 Tiger 900 RallyPro
1190R owner here 🙋♂️
Had her since 2016 and I still love her
You’re so right, they really do surprise sport bike guys off the line and up to about 100 on road. And even on those nice twisty back roads
Off road she is heavy yes if coming from a MX bike but she handles her self really well and I feel better off-road with her than my 250 SX-F at times!
Brilliant video, you live in a beautiful area, those go-pro shots at the end were stunning!
Shame to hear your selling her, no doubt it’s a tough decision but you got a family and you gotta do what’s right by them 100%, respect that being your reasoning.
All the best man!
Winston
I was on a klr650 and my buddy kept bugging me to go to the ktm demo day coming up (2016). I went, I rode the 1190R and bought it that day. Many, many miles later I haven't found a replacement for what it can do. It's my grocery getter, canyon carver, and BDR trail bike. It is a commitment bike (height, power, weight) and is in no way right for beginners or those not very competent already. Its not that it isn't easy to ride, its TOO easy, which will have you deep in a dirt corner before you know it, or well into 100+ on the highway before it feels fast. If respected its just amazing. I see a ton sold in pristine condition as the rider just wasn't up to handling that level of bike. The street version isn't as capable off road, my friend had one, was a better rider than me, and I easily out rode him on dirt. He finally stripped off the 50/50's and made it into his touring bike which he loves, drags pegs and everything. Worth a bid but I've already got one.
I had a fast Benelli 1130 Amazonas. Same power but lighter, an 1130 in a 899 frame. The 1190 doesn't disappoint it is the Swiss army knife. It will go there if you are up to it. Very capable on and off road.
I've been waiting for ages for you to do this review! When I was shopping for a bike a 3 years ago this was the ONLY bike that met all my criteria. Sport bike like power, 19' front spoke wheels, off road and touring capable, oh and in my budget. If budget wasn't an issue then the only other bike was the mulitstarda enduro. It's such as great bike but. I have ridden the 1090r and it felt significantly lighter off the kickstand and going slow over obstacles. There was alot more going on than just removing the centre stand to make the bike much better to ride. It was also a lot smoother and a little smaller. The other issue I have is slow tight corners on the dirt, like switchbacks. Oh and the F'ing heat. It's a hot bike but some mods can help with that. But 3 years on and I still love it. It sit's in it's own unique segment of the ADV market and I've been spoiled, which makes it hard to buy another bike. I now want a more dirt orientated bike but I don't want to give up power or the electronic suspension or the power modes or the safety features. If only KTM made such a bike.... Oh wait they did. It's called the 1190r....:)
I just got 1 , incredible power, handling, brakes, everything.
Awesome bike..
The best ADV bike is the one you love, damn the specs. Best of luck with the auction. I hope you can get a healthy buffer from it and someone gets lots of smiles with it!
I just got mine streetable again and I forgot how much I love it. This video reminds me to keep it. I'm still getting confused, surprised, and funny faces when I leave people in the dust.
Just so you know, this video just cost me a lot of money. I love it!
I've missed these reviews! Hope things are going well
I bought 1190 second hand last year and I enjoy it every time I ride :D
Love my 1090R. "The Mighty 1090!" or "The Trophy Truck on Two Wheels," they call it. Take it everywhere, double or single track, trails, twisties, gravel, snow or mud.....sand is still scary but what a fun bike! Of the "Liter" sized Adv bikes, its definitely up there among the best. Excellent suspension for tuning for your needs(twisties, weight, off road etc), traction control is basic, lots of mods, looks good. Its a tall bike which can make it difficult at times but the suspension really helps. If all you do is take it down gravel roads or whatever don't feel bad. Taking it through the tight stuff is no joke but its fun. Power can be managed with some good clutch and throttle control. Tight places are more difficult, yes. It would be like finessing a Baja Truck down an ATV trail. ;)
I've got a KTM 1190 Adventure 'R' which I've got fully tricked-out with Rottweiler Performance intake & fuelling systems, plus a Scotts steering damper, also a Wings Short Exhaust (sans baffle) and with a Wings heat deflector system... plus a stack of other farkles to improve it's ride qualities & robustness for off road riding (e.g. Rumbux Upper Crash Bars and an AltRider Skid Plate, axle sliders, etc).
Having left behind the deserts of the UAE & Oman, these days I ride in the vast expanses of red-dirt-road Africa and, suffice to say, that KTM goes like a veritable guided missile... and off-road it's a total joy to ride, especially so when standing up on the 'Black Dog CycleWorks' foot-pegs that I've farkled onto it.
Put bluntly, there is no way I would sell it;... indeed they can bury it with me (and, with all that performance, it will indeed more than probably be the death of me... but, if you gotta go, then what a great way to go it would be!).
Should add that I also own a BMW R1200 GSA (for on-road riding) and a Royal Enfield 500 Classic (for the grins).
I have a 2015 1190 orange beastie,so love her
Almost bought one a year ago. Owned by dealer/ex racer himself. He said similar things about it. My eye was fixed on the shiny ones. Lol. Dang! Maybe another look in order. Thanks man!
I have the same color 1190 I bought back in 2015 for 14K and I love it. It is such a good bike, does everything well. my only complaint is the stock seat, can’t ride longer than 1-2hrs on it so I had to get the KTM aftermarket seat which is marginally better.
Nice review, too bad you felt the need to sell. Got an 1190S when it first came out and rode it 250 miles today in the NH hills. This Beast loves the throttle... twisties, unimproved roads, and cruises the freeway at speed. Still loving it! Looked at Duc but, mine is paid for!
FWIW your brake fluid looks a tad dark.
Bought a 1190r last year. It was still in its crate. So "new" but years old. My first motorcycle! I am still scared of it, but I push through my fear and am learning more each day. The offroad tires make me nervous but they seem to grip ok. I take it on the dirt roads where I live and appreciate the rider modes because it allows some rear fish tailing fun. It is tall and heavy, the only drawback in my opinion. I think a rekluse (spelling?) Clutch would be a nice mod.
I also think very highly of the 1190 vs the 1190R...which is why when I was shopping in 2015 I bought the S instead of the R...
1) I was concerned and intimidated about such a big bike in the dirt (which is the only place I prefer to ride) and the 1190S is an inch lower, plus the seat can be moved to a lower position. Nearly 2” lower seat height!
2) A big bike off road meant I wanted maximum traction. The 1190S has 1” wider front and rear tires than the R.
3) I have never known how to set up a suspension, so I wanted something to do it for me.
4) I wasn’t sure if I wanted lean angle sensing, but I was intimidated by the bike and wanted as much safety as I could get. It saved me from wrecking 2-3 times. Don’t know how bad it would have been and don’t care. The R does not have the lean angle sensing.
5) The bigger windshield helps. My buddy who bought the R also bought a larger windshield.
6) The S was $2,000 cheaper than the R because they would not haggle on the R and had a very low dealer rebate. So I bought the S and used the money I saved for TKC 80’s and crash bars so I would be closer to the R off road. I had so much left over, I bought upper crash bars, rear crash bars with rotopax, heated grips, the Bad Fuel/ABS/TC settings dongle, turn signal cancellation upgrade and a Black Dog Skidplate...none of which my buddy’s 1190R had!
7) The 1190S had a 2 year warranty, the R was 6 or 12 mos.
8) I did not like the close fender on either bike and thought mud would clog it. It only did it once, but I added the R fender to my S which gave me a 1” larger gap. You could not do that with the R.
9) The S rips in the turns due to the smaller rims size, yet the smaller rim has never impacted me in the dirt.
10) With 15,000 miles of dirt riding on my 1190S, I thought I was outgrowing the suspension. But on the COBDR last week with my buddy on his 690 and the other buddy on his Africa Twin Adventure, I am just fine with the suspension. I pound it and it works.
You are correct, the 1190S was - and is - a true unspoken hero...
The R had lean sensitive brakes in 2016.. not sure about the first model in 2012
If you're really going around the world & need the Swiss Army knife bike, this is in the argument for sure, great bike. If like me, your ADV is your second bike, meant to ride to the trail or take a few week long off-road trips, pushing heavy single track rough terrain, the 790R is a more capable off-road. Recently went single track w/ 1090, 790R & 390 ADV; 790R was clearly most capable when we switched on heavy single track due to suspension, weight, how low it carries its weight & power. 1090 & 1190 bring extra higher center weight w/ unneeded off-road power; 95 HP in Rally mode is all you'll ever need. Sure, Chris Birch can kill it on an 1190 but the common rider isn't Chris, & he's taken the 790R 12' in the air when pushing it. I personally would take the 1190 for a road trip & street over the 790. Think you may get some debate about the 1190 being the "fastest" KTM ADV. From the light, yes, running the canyon roads wide open or track, people are pretty big fans of the 1290 ADV's geometry, ability to plant & additional HP over the 1190 plus tech, don't see how the 1190 can be faster in real world street riding.
Mike Well said. The point is ADV is too diverse a segment with vastly differing requirements for any one bike to be labeled “best”.
I loved my dad's 1190 S, I have the 1290 S and it is not slower than the 1190 to any speed. Beats the Multistrada drag or rolling as well.
I've got a golden-orange one, bloody murder machine yanks on the chain like crazy whenever I take it for a stroll, almost prefer to leave it in "rain mode"
As usual, this review comes in JUST AFTER i parted from my 2014 :-) I enjoyed it very much, only things I didn't like were its front wheel lack of strength, and poor front suspension capacity for longer rocky rides.
Excellent overview! Appreciate the video, Everide!
"Was"?!! they are still around! I have a 2015. Awesome machine
Well - I tried around the world. Broke down several times - changed engine 3 times - completely. Right now I am doing a complete service after 150 000 KM trough America. Doesn't look at all as shiny as yours... But well - still can't sell it either. ;-/)
Don’t tell people! I need the prices to stay low for another month or so 😅
Thank you!
Love my 1199 A all over again😁
Just bought one of these because of this video and others like it. I couldn't be happier. I feel like I actually have the best adventure bike on the streets. Oh and the one I got had only 3,685 mi, which means I'm winning.
Great review and hope things improve so your touring business can get back on the right footing.
Still love my 2014 model after 9 years of ownership.
I really like your videos and reviews, but I think this is an unfair comparison. The 1290 S/R models weigh as much as the 1190, the heavier model you compare the 1190 to is the T -touring model with a much bigger tank. Also, the 1090 doesn't come with simply progressive springs, but with heavier fork springs and a brand new anti-bottoming PDS shock which is a huge upgrade to the ones on the 1190s. But to be fair, I agree with you. I own a 1090R but still think the 1190R was the best among the 1X90 lineup.
I own one, i love it. Never used it offroad
Great cinematics on the video. I would love to bid on that bike but I'm running with DRZ money.
Bought mine new in 2016, still have it and its never missed a beat. @everide, what tires did you run on your 1190?
That's my bike!!! :) it's great great bike!
The 1190 is a very, very cool adventure bike!
And it looks like you can buy a factory Cruise Control unit for the 1190. Awesome.
I bought one these today 12 22 23 . Its a 2015 . I hope I did well !!
I've got an appointment to trade in my 450Exc-F for an 1190 Adv on Monday...
Your video is music to my ears...
:-)
Amazing video review! The scenic views and the bike shots are just amazing! I'm riding a bmw but I'm looking at the 790 Adventure and the 1190 Adventure! I think this vid convinced me the 1190 Adventure is the better bike.
When are you reviewing the new Tenere 700?
It may be a while before I grab one. Gotta put the family first! I'd also like to see how they hold up over a few years... I'm a bit of a cheapo so I like the used bikes :D
@@eveRide Someone lend this man his T700 please! - Perhaps a wealthy Australian fan with a high mileage bike? (S)he shall receive an instant boost in resale value, Tyler gets to ride, make content and support his family and us - the poor and unfamous - we may get to see drone footage of another timed run on the commute and an unbiased review of what - dare I say it - could be the NEW "KLR650"!!!
I have the 2015 1190, I’m in love with
If I’d had the money I’d just give you the price for it and have you keep it my friend so you’d not have to sell it!! It’s the best bike I’ve ever owned!
Ha! I did not read the whole title. I saw new video from eveRide and said, hell yeah. Whole time watching I was thinking, this seems like a sales pitch. Oh, it is. Good luck on the sale, dude🤙
I love my 1190 EDS.
Any source on the 1190 finishing romaniacs? Can't find any information on it.
funny, I have the exact same 2 bikes. 1190 and dr650 but I'll keep them both for years to come (no kids ^^)
Love to see this Dude review a TW200.
Idk what to buy. I want a bike I can pound highway with but also hit fire roads. Originally I wanted a t7 but it’s too small for a passenger. The Africa twin is cool but I may get bored of it. I think the 1190 is nice but I worry about ktm reliability
I have a 2013 1190 adventure R. I'm never parting from it.
Hope you get another in the future ✌🏽
All the best! Hard to let go.
I don’t have a lot of money but want to pick back up riding. What bike would y’all wonderful folks recommend and about how much could I expect to spend?
Depends on what you want to do. DRZ400S for dual sport riding. Solid and dependable. They typically sell for 2000-4000 depending on the year and condition. Glad to have another rider getting back into the sport!
Prefer the 950/990 off road but the newer bike is more powerful on road. I think ktm went the wrong way with the 1190. The 950/990 is the perfect compromise adventure bike between street use and off-road capability. Can’t believe how good the design is after almost 20 years!
This video gave me the screaming thigh sweats ! I've recovered enough to realize that there is no way I could ever rise to the challenge of using most of its 150 horses. My helmet's off to anyone who can ride the 1190 even close to it's potential !
Thank you Sir for your respect! 🤣
Just for overtaking and get away from those cars that tailgate you. So it is only for safety. ;)
I never (almost) full open the throttle from low speed, so in first to ......, it's hammering so hard and really the steering is almost pulling out of your hands, this is not comfy but at the other hand you can drive very smoothly and still pull up fast. This bike does it all.
Sorry to hear that you have to sell it due to (possible) financial constraints. Although, economically, it's a smart move, small bikes are more fun and cheaper, right?
My 1090 adv likes this video ❤️
bigger engine, more horsepower, yet the 1290 is slower? How do you figure that?
What is that aux gas tank on the back??
That is the 1 gallon rotopax that he was talking about. It is nice to have just in case you get REALLY far out there.
U should try out the swm rs 300r its a duel sport and if u like the drz400 u will love the swm
I'm thinking about buying one but many people complain about the heat from the headers. Is it that bad?
you can remove the mud guard flap in front of rear wheel to allow more air flow to reduce heat
It’s a great bike. Buy it. Easy to find fully modded by now.
Thanks everyone
Now, where’s that like button? Oh, it’s right above my comment. But where’s the subscribe button? Ah, found it, it’s below the like button and to the right. Ok, pressed it, BOOM. But wait, why is there some some sort of bell? Well, guess I’m gonna click that too.
What are the weights your comparing? 1190s vs 1290s are almost the same weight. unless you're comparing to 1290T... but better comparison would be 1290s. This review also completely overlooks 1190r vs 1290r, which are both better offroad then the 1190s.
Funny I was just considering one couple of days ago, especially comparing how much bang you get for your buck.
However let me ask you and please be honest : isn't it too fast? Like way beyond whats legal and impossible to exploit without either losing our licence or worst?
If it could get downtuned to 100hp I'd feel safer.. proof that KTM is crazy is that motorcyclist like me try to figure out how to lower to power output of the engine lol.
Would you call it dual sport . Can it do everything that klr can or drz400
it has completed Romaniacs...🤔...not the one that i watch every year and last i heard an attempt it was Quinn Cody on a 1090 heavily modified
Yup, It has not completed it had competed maybe he meant competed. Or maybe like you I missed a year ?
Best bike I've ever owned!😀
NIce! Great work as always... sorry you have to sell the bike.
Never understood the fascination with these liter ADV bikes, I've always found it better to buy a sport tourer and a lighter dirt oriented tourer, even if it means grabbing the older model, bikes haven't really been improving at the pace they did 30 years ago.
For us that lve in the flat states and have to drive 600 miles to find something worth riding (Florida) a litre bike does it. Of course 150lbs less from a 400cc single is great, but to get there and enjoy it a litre bis need it.
@@cabezamiami Well, that is quite the dedication. To be honest, at that point, I'd just lump the bike in my van :D .
I've read about the prairies, never experienced it though, here in Europe, when you have a flat piece of land that stretches for 50km, you already start going crazy, I can't imagine what 20times that would feel, but if I were to do it on a bike, I'd want a liter one :) .
What a bike 😻💯
How much did this bike auction for?
I've never weighed one, but a 1x90 centerstand doesn't weigh 14 pounds. There's definitely something else adding the weight.
They took out tubeless too I think.
@@mojoriden Pretty sure both are the same setup for the wheels. I'm guessing it's some extra electronics missing. Things like the elec suspension.
@@ZebSmithulon i was comparing R to 1090 not S to 1090. Significant differences between those bikes. Wheel size for one.
@@mojoriden There's an R and S version for both models.
Did you ever talk about breaking your back on this bike in one of your videos? What are the details? I think I may bid on this thing unless you talk me out of it :)
Is the 1290SAR really that much heavier and more of a handful offroad? Also, money aside, If KTM were to actually give you a choice, would you still choose the 1190A or would you go the 1290SAR? Every review states there's so much more torque down low on a 1290. To me, the 1290SAR looks better, too.
main advantage of 1290SAR is better bottoming resistance with upgraded suspension. translates into less bent rims, blowing forks, and rider fatigue.
@@reinhart482 And a heap more herbs down low? Also is the suspension firmer while cruising on highway or just has better valving midstroke?
Looking for riding buddies near St. George. Let's ride!
Videos that make me regret selling my 1090R
as the proud owner of one I have to say yeah it's pretty bitchin
The 950/990 was the best. The 1190 was a pigdog
Until you ride one, then you realize how brilliant it is and how wrong you are.
Actually recently traded a 990 for a 1290 R and don't think I'll personally be looking back. The 1290 feels lighter( I know it isn't but it feels it) and is exponentially smoother on the pavement. Feels more planted and comfortable off-road especially in sand. I was never comfortable doing any real mileage on the 990 and while I haven't taken the 1290 out for its paces on the highway I can tell you its a lot more comfortable on the street without giving up the off-road ability (at least to my admittedly mild skill set). Oh and then there's the fuel range, Although I did like the raw feeling of the 990.
Got a 950 Adventure myself! One of the best twins I've ever had but ngl the 1090 and 1190 look like fun!
what’s the mpg you getting!
I got low 40s riding to Alaska
Well I'm sold Tyler. :-)
dang, this is epic
It was a great bike until it was exposed for the airbox design defect it has. Some have needed engine replacement from that.
NAILED IT! I OWN 2. Plus the 1190S has spoked tubeless unlike the newer S models (17/19 wheels) with mag wheels. In July 2020 I bought a 2014 1190S where I live in FL, put on 1500 miles on her in one month, racing the Tail of the Dragon, TN and NC twisties. I love this bike so much, I just now bought another one 2015 for WA state when I come visit for 1+ months every summer. Both Orange, lower mileage for the cost of one new 1290. Just put 2000 miles on Sunburst this last 2 weeks already. BTW you need to be 5-10 or taller, but it is the most comfortable bike ever for hip and knee angles too 👍😎 ps love ya brother @everide I will ride with you in UT one day soon
rode an 1190s from Alaska to Bolivia. sold it in Peru, now purchased a used 1190R. 1290 is just too far and waaaaaay too many electronics.
Interested.
ME: "No more KTMs." After the motor in my 2013 ktm 690 duke gernaded from a rocker arm bearing failure, I promised I would never get another KTM.
Also ME: Putting a bid on the bike.
That lc4 had heaps of issues. Get a LC8. They rock
Yeaaah but if you read anything about the bike you'd know that was common with that year. 2019-2020 seems to be perfect.
@@jordanJohnn well, bike had 15,000 miles, symptoms popped up and it was already too late when I looked it. 🙄
@@jordanJohnn not a lot of time on those changes..
The 1290 is choked from the factory due to Euro-4. A simple airbox swap makes it rip in a way that only a 1300cc bike can. Takes nothing from the 1190, but the larger motor is much, much stronger with minimal work. And no, the same mods on an 1190 won't make it as fast.
is 1290S faster than s1000xr?
Can anyone please explain to why there no love for the 690 enduro r on this channel ? i value everides experience and he doesn't seem to like it but i dont fully understand why. ( before i buy it )
I own one and love it. even ride it on tough single track!
Had a 690 myself, on a 950 now
But the 690 was a fun and nimble motorcycle, offroad riding was fun and it can do highway too (Not comfy but still)
I've taken it for lots of adventures and I never had an issue with it, to me it's one of the best thumpers out there. Power wise only one other thumper comes close, the Honda XR650R
The Basitin Engineer off-road capability’s .. its it the best for its category? Cause honesty I just want a 500exc but with only one bike I’d be doing a rebuild every 6 months with how often I ride. And I don’t really want to be limited by a bike that’s designed to just be a short trips to the trail sort of bike. Not a fan the bigger adv either.. suitcase riding on gravel roads isn’t really my thing I’d rather take my 4x4 if I’m going to be weighed down on dirt roads. I want a bike I can do trail riding single and double track all while being about to commute to work sort of bike.
@@jordanJohnn Then the 690 is your answer mate, it can do all that
It's not terribly reliable, like pretty much all KTMs other than maybe the exc500...it's a handful on single track although technically capable.