@@wyro5o yes and 900 hp on a truck like Daytona those cars would be so fast that lots of them could be dying. Even then the restricted plates on tracks like that cap them at about 400 hp Michigan and Talladega also have those dang plates
@@purwantiallan5089 I miss 2014 nascar season, but NASCAR is more interesting than it used to be I’ve been watching for over 20 years, but you can’t deny that when they added more roadcourses in NASCAR it make it more interesting! I think we have a good amount of variety of tracks I think NASCAR should go back to Canada or race in Japan at Suzuka!
This is a poor comparison. IF you wanted to see which was faster they can't be on the same track. It would have to be single car runs. I can tell because the Gen 7 car is absolutely struggling behind the gen 6 car. It's going way off line in some areas and that's screwing with the actual speed. Not hate! Just constructive criticism.
Awesome video. Gen 7 is slower in all forms of racing, even with bigger brakes and wider tires. Less downforce and hp makes a huge difference. (And for those that claim Gen 7 makes more downforce, that is wrong. 2014 peaked with downforce at around 3500 lb. Gen 7 was around 2000 for non superspeedway and 2500 for superspeedway, which has already been reduced this year)
Lo único que cambio fue la carrocería.. chasis, suspensión y mecánica sigue siendo la misma, este año se aumento en 50cc pero es para todos los autos por igual
@@metalbrick55We've had cars in the catch fence restricted............surely you remember Austin Dillon Daytona wreck, Carl Edwards Talladega wreck, Ryan Newman wreck...wasn't in fence but mega airborne. Lift off speed is in the 167-175 ballpark.
@@alanjohnson911 I know. Those would have been worse if the cars were still unrestricted at that point. Gen 5 could pass 250 easily and gen 6 did 240 at a Michigan test.
@@metalbrick55 I know that, I'm all for more HP, I've been watching and around stock car racing and Nascar for 50+ yrs. I'm old school so I'm always up for more HP, I also drove a late model in the 80s. I always wanted more HP lol
Would be nice if nascar would get off their asses and raise the hp, fans, drivers, teams, and manufacturers all want it but nascar keeps making up every excuse imaginable not to
True. Even Karin Asaka (also a big fan of NASCAR in general), Mia Taylor, and Yuu Takasaki (which Mia call her as "Baby-chan") also prefer the 2014 package over 2022 spec Gen 7 NASCAR Cars.
They have got to bring the HP back before all of the fans are gone, reminds me of going to the local go kart track, 7 mph limit, the fatter guy always loses, takes him a second longer to get to 7, out of the corners.
Agree you would also take care of the tire fall off problem with 900 horses put the race back in the driver's hands they will ajust to how hard they want to run the car. Gen 6 so much louder to
I think what it is is that nascar is scared to give the car more horsepower because they know the car isn't safe and they already had 2 injurys with it
The engine builders say 750 is definitely doable without incurring much additional cost, and the drivers would like it (quite a few of them have said this on record), but NASCAR wants a fourth manufacturer (Honda) and they're not willing to raise power.
The gen 6 were always tail happy if you weren't careful. it's why car control was so important up until gen 7, arguably the end of gen 4 being the hardest to drive. When you have 800 horsepower going to 13 inch wide tires, you're gonna get tail happy lol
Please, compare Gen 6 2014 NASCAR Cup, 2024 Next Gen and ARCA Menards Series to see if ARCA is faster than Next Gen and how it's slower than 2014 Cup car
Well this 2014 gen6 are the better racing, no matter they're got old 4speed gear but has be the faster than the current era we see today. Nascar needs to go back on highly horsepower. And this also a reason i lost interest watching Nascar for longer years since dodge left in racing
Lol just like I predicted a few days ago, The 2014 car would destroy the 2024 car. There's nothing that'll replace good ol horsepower no matter the car
The benefit of having lower horsepower with the next-gen cars is that they are safer as having 900 horsepower meant there would be more wrecks and the cars would be hard to control. So yeah, I'm glad that NASCAR lowered the horsepower to make them safer.
I’d be interested to see an unrestricted gen 4 car. Cool video. Crazy to me that even cars from decades ago would destroy modern cars in top speeds and stuff. Gen 7 might beat it on road courses though.
It's hard to compare the two, but it's an interesting exercise in any case. The modern car should handle better than the older one, especially on the road course, it's a different size wheel with lower sidewalls, the suspension is better, etc. There are also differences between the tire compounds in the different eras, the newer tires are designed to wear more quickly because the cars' chassis are so much better. I'd be curious how the road course looks at lap 15 in terms of relative speed. In the end, there's no beating an extra 150 hp...
I randomly watched a clip from the gen 6 era recently and I instantly was like…man, it looks like they are going a bit faster. You don’t notice until you compare clips
They are going a LOT faster...especially top speed at end of straightaways. At California and Michigan they were running upon turn entry, 218-220mph in qual trim
@@joogiewatkins1519had more specifically, it was run from 69 to 89 after that any trace of it was slowly removed until mid 2006 when the track was repaved entirely
The problem with this whole simulation is that the gen 6 car is a solid axle drive train where the transmission is attached to the engine and use an drive shaft to turn a solid rear axle. and the gen 7 is a rear transaxle setup where the transmission is in the rear with independent rear suspension and a torque tube run from the engine to the transmission in the rear. I don’t think this simulator takes in to account either of those setups. So this isn’t really a good setup. I’d say the closest we could get is iracing. Or comparing actual live data
Excellent question. It's likely GTE was a tiny bit faster at technical tracks, such as Sonoma. But of course in ovals where horsepower matters (or maybe even high speed road courses), GTE would possibly lose. The only shared data is...GTE is based off GT2, and GT2 ran in Sonoma several years prior to 2014. Their lap times were: Pole: 1:34.263 Race lap: 1:35.112. The only time Gen 6 ran the full circuit was 2019, which was reduced horsepower and downforce: Pole: 1:34.598 Race lap: 1:37.194 To compare 2005 GT2 with 2014 GTE, at Road America, GTE ran a 2:03 where GT2 ran a 2:08. So a rough prediction would be GTE running a low 1:30s and 2014 Cup running a low to mid 1:30s.
@Med_41 I think the biggest problem for Gen 6 is that it weighs several hundred pounds more than a GTE car (~2700 vs ~3300), and GTE has far more mechanical grip, especially since GTE front tires are 13 inches wide and rears are 14. Gen 6 only had 12 inch wide tires all around. Much harder for grip with less tire and that much more weight. However, as far as downforce, I'm guessing Gen 6 has more at 200 mph (3500 lb, per articles in 2014, which means it could drive upside down at 200 mph), but I wonder what the comparison is at say 100 mph.
While I’m sure the 2014 car is faster, putting the 2024 car constantly in dirty air doesn’t make this a fair comparison. I’m not gonna go and look up qualifying speed for the 2 cars, but, you can visibly see the Next Gen getting tight at Bristol as it can’t wrap the bottom. Also, the improved braking performance at Watkins Glen wasn’t shown at all. The Gen 7 car can drive WAY deeper into the corner than the 2014 Gen 6, so it should be able to close that gap SIGNIFICANTLY versus what we saw here. Again, the 2014 rules package was great and I’m sure it was faster than the Next Gen, but this comparison isn’t fair.
The qualifying times are in the video under "theoretical lap times". Those numbers are actual qualifying times from the real cars. Gen 7 is multiple seconds slower.
Too bad you can't get Bill Elliott's #9 Thunderbird that he broke the speed records in at Talladega and Daytona, back in 1987 to run against both of these cars. They had that car running like a rocket sled on rails!! 212.809 mph at Talladega and 210.364 mph at Daytona
Great question. On such a lower speed technical track, we would think Gen 7 would have an advantage with bigger brakes and wider tires. But Gen 7 is still multiple seconds slower than Gen 6 here. Almost pathetically slower, for having those advantages. 2023 pole: 77.7 seconds 2014 pole: 74.3 seconds
I would love to see the lap time of the G56 at the Glen. It should beat the 2014 by a margin, but G56 is far from high speeds, so 2014 would destroy it on a high speed oval.
@@THEWINDTUNNEL Hi, I know it's been a while since I commented this, but most of these cost money and I don't want to pay for a game I already paid for. Do you have any websites that allow for free mods? If you do, thank you.
I don't think this takes all differences into account. The new car has wider tires, much better brakes, and better suspension. Daytona is accurate, and the intermediate is probably close. The short track and road course would probably go to the new car because of the added grip and stopping power.
Man whoever made the Next-Gen car model (or adapted it for Assetto Corsa from something else) needs to increase it's size. The cars are roughly the same size as the previous generation, but that thing looks *tiny* compared to the Gen 6 car.
Wait, you’re telling me that the Gen 6, with its solid rear axle, smaller brakes, higher profile tire and archaic steering box is hitting the same braking points AND going faster through the turns at Watkins Glen than a NextGen? I can believe the oval speed difference, but there’s too much going against the Gen 6 to not think there’s some shenanigans afoot.
Braking zones should be less for NextGen, but considering the less downforce, I can buy similar turn speeds because Watkins Glen has high speed turns. BUT, even in slow speed technical tracks like Sonoma, NextGen still is multiple seconds slower than Gen 6. If you compare lap times, NextGen is a big disappointment in terms of raw speed. I'm wondering if also Goodyear has something to do with it.
The Next Gen is considerably slower at the Glen. The only thing that does better is the braking (as you saw on the Bus Stop) the therorical qualy lap times are based on real lap times
@alanjohnson911 I wholeheartedly agree. Which is why I quit watching NASCAR after 2014. However, an interesting observation: I overlayed the Hendrick Track Attack Gen 6 car with 850+ hp with the G56 car when they both ran at VIR, with their in-car laps. I cannot believe how much better the handling of G56 is compared to Track Attack. Although the Track Attack did get down the straights much faster, it is beast to handle that much HP at a place like VIR. But of course, that's also why 2014 racing made it rely heavily on driver skill.
@@v8ramair145 When I say Gen 6 cars handled great, in context I should've worded it......handled great for a non independent rear suspension, non-coilover shocks, solid axles and recirculating ball steering (non rack/pinion). For the suspension technology carried over from the 60s-70s obviously with more modern technology updates, it handled very good...not to mention when trying to hook up 950 HP.
Go back to 95, even faster yet, I built a road racing car out of a 93 Camaro, it's about 300 pounds lighter than the cup cars, I built the original gen 2 LT1 to 625 NA HP my best lap on the Glen is 1:16.244, I never thought to compare it before, I can't believe how much money they have into these cars to make sure that they are very slow.
This is what I keep saying with the gen 7, stop taking away horsepower and downforce, theres no excuse for this car to be as slow as it is, we could have record setting lap times every week with 950 horsepower and full aero package
Agree, and the sad thing is nascar doesn't seem to care. I remember when this car came out 2 years ago. It was either Harvick or Hamlin who was appalled at how slow they were. They said it was even slower than the truck series.
And this is why Cars 3 was bullshit. McQueen was built, I’d assume, for the 2005 or 2006 NASCAR rule set. Seeing what NASCAR is right now with the current "next gens", McQueen should've DEMOLISHED Jackson Storm
2014 I washed all the old races. I didn’t realize NASCAR’s got slower of the years reminder dude you did this with Ford Maybe try this on a Chevy or Toyota to see if that’s her actually has gotten slower
@@derbyjrIf they use a TA1 car, then even a Gen 6 car is gonna get annihilated. Those things are some of the most genuinely unhinged race cars I've ever seen, and the ones that use a single-exit exhaust put even the old X-pipe boom tube cars to shame.
Current car has more HP at Daytona, Talladega and Atlanta. Current car also has faster corner speeds. And at road courses it torches the old car on handling alone. Very misleading video
Can you then explain why this new car is over 2 seconds slower at one of the slowest technical tracks, sonoma? And over 2 seconds slower at Watkins Glen? NextGen is slow and the video is not misleading.
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Which of these two eras do you prefer?
Gen 7 is way better than gen 6
First?
Gen 6 over gen 7 any day
Gen 7! It looks better!
gen6
Gen 6
I wish nascar would go back to 900 hp, i want to see the drivers actually challenged and to see whis actually the best
Instead, they would rather make the cars easier to drive and copy other motorsports to get fans outside of NASCAR.
@@deathtrooper2048the look of the 2014 NASCAR FORD FUSION still miles above 2024 REPCO V8 Supercars Gen 3 and GEN 7 NASCAR Cars.
I think 800hp would be perfect I definitely would love to see more horsepower!
Talentless rich kids with sponsors can’t handle 900hp
@@wyro5o yes and 900 hp on a truck like Daytona those cars would be so fast that lots of them could be dying. Even then the restricted plates on tracks like that cap them at about 400 hp Michigan and Talladega also have those dang plates
2014 was the best rules package
And also LAST ever season when NASCAR being at its best. Ever since 2015 to 2024, NASCAR has gone downhill forever.
@@purwantiallan5089 I miss 2014 nascar season, but NASCAR is more interesting than it used to be I’ve been watching for over 20 years, but you can’t deny that when they added more roadcourses in NASCAR it make it more interesting! I think we have a good amount of variety of tracks I think NASCAR should go back to Canada or race in Japan at Suzuka!
This is a poor comparison. IF you wanted to see which was faster they can't be on the same track. It would have to be single car runs. I can tell because the Gen 7 car is absolutely struggling behind the gen 6 car. It's going way off line in some areas and that's screwing with the actual speed. Not hate! Just constructive criticism.
Even if that was the case, the results still wouldn't change.
Exactly. Gen 7 is slower regardless. The lap times/records are nowhere near Gen 6 peak.
Even if the Gen 6 was faster, it's still not representative of the gap between them.
If anything Gen 7 car has an advantage because it can use gen 6 for drafting… if it could keep up.
i mean, the creator did put theatrical qualifying times after each race is done, so i think he did what you want
NASCAR needs to increase horsepower back to 750 if not higher
Maybe next year they gonna increase it to 950 or 1000bhp like Pikes Peak Hillclimb Cars.
Hard to believe that a Gen-6 car would beat a Gen-7 car around road courses. Brakes and suspension are so much better now.
Look no further than Watkins Glen real qualifying times
2027, hopefully NASCAR should go back to 1000bhp package on all tracks and 5 speed sequential gearbox.
@@THEWINDTUNNELwhy not try out Fuji Speedway or Suzuka or Istanbul Park?
The reason is the actual chassi is so heavy creating more downforce, so Gen 7 basically gives a false sense of speed when in reality there dirt slow
@@purwantiallan5089because they actually race at Watkins Glen
Awesome video. Gen 7 is slower in all forms of racing, even with bigger brakes and wider tires. Less downforce and hp makes a huge difference. (And for those that claim Gen 7 makes more downforce, that is wrong. 2014 peaked with downforce at around 3500 lb. Gen 7 was around 2000 for non superspeedway and 2500 for superspeedway, which has already been reduced this year)
Reminder: the true laptimes are shown at the end, under the “Theoretical Qualifying Times”. The video showing the racing is just for entertainment.
Even 2024 ARCA cars from Gen 4 NASCAR Stock Cars also looked better than Gen 7 NASCAR Car.
NASCAR GEN 7 in 2024: BRING BACK THE 2014 PACKAGE, PLEASE!
Should note that the Horsepower on the superspeedway is around 450 for 2014 and 510 for 2024.
The Argentine TC is undergoing a renovation. Can you pit a car from the old gen against one from the new gen?
Lo único que cambio fue la carrocería.. chasis, suspensión y mecánica sigue siendo la misma, este año se aumento en 50cc pero es para todos los autos por igual
Well maybe in next month.
2019-2021 was the slowest era
Yeah they had 550 hp for most of it I think. The cars are still fast no matter what but I can still see why people want more hp
Ive been saying it for years!!! Let the cars loose and fix the walls fences.. we should be running 230+mph on the superspeedways.
Last time we left the cars unrestricted at super speedways, we had a car fly into the catch fence.
@@metalbrick55We've had cars in the catch fence restricted............surely you remember Austin Dillon Daytona wreck, Carl Edwards Talladega wreck, Ryan Newman wreck...wasn't in fence but mega airborne. Lift off speed is in the 167-175 ballpark.
@@alanjohnson911 I know. Those would have been worse if the cars were still unrestricted at that point. Gen 5 could pass 250 easily and gen 6 did 240 at a Michigan test.
@@metalbrick55
I know that, I'm all for more HP, I've been watching and around stock car racing and Nascar for 50+ yrs. I'm old school so I'm always up for more HP, I also drove a late model in the 80s. I always wanted more HP lol
Would be nice if nascar would get off their asses and raise the hp, fans, drivers, teams, and manufacturers all want it but nascar keeps making up every excuse imaginable not to
2014 was a goldmine
True. Even Karin Asaka (also a big fan of NASCAR in general), Mia Taylor, and Yuu Takasaki (which Mia call her as "Baby-chan") also prefer the 2014 package over 2022 spec Gen 7 NASCAR Cars.
They have got to bring the HP back before all of the fans are gone, reminds me of going to the local go kart track, 7 mph limit, the fatter guy always loses, takes him a second longer to get to 7, out of the corners.
Not only did the cars get slower,but the quality of racing drastically declined.
next gen would be filthy with 900hp
Agree you would also take care of the tire fall off problem with 900 horses put the race back in the driver's hands they will ajust to how hard they want to run the car. Gen 6 so much louder to
I think what it is is that nascar is scared to give the car more horsepower because they know the car isn't safe and they already had 2 injurys with it
The engine builders say 750 is definitely doable without incurring much additional cost, and the drivers would like it (quite a few of them have said this on record), but NASCAR wants a fourth manufacturer (Honda) and they're not willing to raise power.
Why is the 2014 one "tail happy"?
It doesn’t have a independent rear suspension!
Looks like it’s being driven by a controller instead of a wheel
@@loganwatterson7308does the Gen 7 NASCAR Cars driven with PS5 Dualsense Controller?
900hp skinnier tires
The gen 6 were always tail happy if you weren't careful. it's why car control was so important up until gen 7, arguably the end of gen 4 being the hardest to drive. When you have 800 horsepower going to 13 inch wide tires, you're gonna get tail happy lol
Please, compare Gen 6 2014 NASCAR Cup, 2024 Next Gen and ARCA Menards Series to see if ARCA is faster than Next Gen and how it's slower than 2014 Cup car
Well this 2014 gen6 are the better racing, no matter they're got old 4speed gear but has be the faster than the current era we see today. Nascar needs to go back on highly horsepower. And this also a reason i lost interest watching Nascar for longer years since dodge left in racing
Lol just like I predicted a few days ago, The 2014 car would destroy the 2024 car. There's nothing that'll replace good ol horsepower no matter the car
The benefit of having lower horsepower with the next-gen cars is that they are safer as having 900 horsepower meant there would be more wrecks and the cars would be hard to control. So yeah, I'm glad that NASCAR lowered the horsepower to make them safer.
They should begin back the old NASCAR cars
Still playing NR2003 here
Fantastic sim, it's ageless!!
NR2003 and Dirt to Daytona and ALL NASCAR THUNDER GAMES on PS1 and 2 are still the GOAT!
I’d be interested to see an unrestricted gen 4 car. Cool video. Crazy to me that even cars from decades ago would destroy modern cars in top speeds and stuff. Gen 7 might beat it on road courses though.
2014: 13 winners
2024: 19 winners
You mean 2022 right? That's a good point
I miss gen 6 and before
Very cool. My favorite comparison was the new car vs. Petty Superbird.
People loved that one, it even got featured in "The Drive"! www.thedrive.com/news/plymouth-superbird-nascar-racing
I just read the article. Very cool, indeed. Props!@@THEWINDTUNNEL
It's hard to compare the two, but it's an interesting exercise in any case. The modern car should handle better than the older one, especially on the road course, it's a different size wheel with lower sidewalls, the suspension is better, etc. There are also differences between the tire compounds in the different eras, the newer tires are designed to wear more quickly because the cars' chassis are so much better. I'd be curious how the road course looks at lap 15 in terms of relative speed. In the end, there's no beating an extra 150 hp...
I randomly watched a clip from the gen 6 era recently and I instantly was like…man, it looks like they are going a bit faster. You don’t notice until you compare clips
They are going a LOT faster...especially top speed at end of straightaways. At California and Michigan they were running upon turn entry, 218-220mph in qual trim
DO GROUP C CARS AT TALLADEGA OVAL NOT ROAD COURSE
Talladega has a road course?
@@joogiewatkins1519had more specifically, it was run from 69 to 89 after that any trace of it was slowly removed until mid 2006 when the track was repaved entirely
Hell yeah 😏
In the short one to intermedete the 2014 ford just wiggling through the corner
Give me a 87 thunderbird with an Ernie Elliott built 625 horsepower engine and I will be happy! Had the 87 but the 3.8 just wasn’t enough!
The problem with this whole simulation is that the gen 6 car is a solid axle drive train where the transmission is attached to the engine and use an drive shaft to turn a solid rear axle. and the gen 7 is a rear transaxle setup where the transmission is in the rear with independent rear suspension and a torque tube run from the engine to the transmission in the rear. I don’t think this simulator takes in to account either of those setups. So this isn’t really a good setup. I’d say the closest we could get is iracing. Or comparing actual live data
If Nascar isn’t gonna add more power to the engines themselves then they might as well go the hybrid route, maybe a similar setup to LMDH cars.
Displaying the speed of the cars in the apex of the turn would give a better understanding as well. Or was that what you did at 1:05 ?
They're 20+ mph slower than Bill Elliott was at Daytona and Talladega in 1987, and did you know there was no "Big One?" @NASCAR 👍 🇺🇸
Is the 2014 cup car faster and a GTE from 2014?
Hmm 🤔
Excellent question. It's likely GTE was a tiny bit faster at technical tracks, such as Sonoma. But of course in ovals where horsepower matters (or maybe even high speed road courses), GTE would possibly lose. The only shared data is...GTE is based off GT2, and GT2 ran in Sonoma several years prior to 2014. Their lap times were:
Pole: 1:34.263
Race lap: 1:35.112.
The only time Gen 6 ran the full circuit was 2019, which was reduced horsepower and downforce:
Pole: 1:34.598
Race lap: 1:37.194
To compare 2005 GT2 with 2014 GTE, at Road America, GTE ran a 2:03 where GT2 ran a 2:08.
So a rough prediction would be GTE running a low 1:30s and 2014 Cup running a low to mid 1:30s.
@v8ramair145 more even than I thought. Although it makes sense, cup has more hp, and the GTE has more downforce.
@Med_41 I think the biggest problem for Gen 6 is that it weighs several hundred pounds more than a GTE car (~2700 vs ~3300), and GTE has far more mechanical grip, especially since GTE front tires are 13 inches wide and rears are 14. Gen 6 only had 12 inch wide tires all around. Much harder for grip with less tire and that much more weight. However, as far as downforce, I'm guessing Gen 6 has more at 200 mph (3500 lb, per articles in 2014, which means it could drive upside down at 200 mph), but I wonder what the comparison is at say 100 mph.
While I’m sure the 2014 car is faster, putting the 2024 car constantly in dirty air doesn’t make this a fair comparison. I’m not gonna go and look up qualifying speed for the 2 cars, but, you can visibly see the Next Gen getting tight at Bristol as it can’t wrap the bottom. Also, the improved braking performance at Watkins Glen wasn’t shown at all. The Gen 7 car can drive WAY deeper into the corner than the 2014 Gen 6, so it should be able to close that gap SIGNIFICANTLY versus what we saw here.
Again, the 2014 rules package was great and I’m sure it was faster than the Next Gen, but this comparison isn’t fair.
The qualifying times are in the video under "theoretical lap times". Those numbers are actual qualifying times from the real cars. Gen 7 is multiple seconds slower.
☝🏻 You could clearly see the NextGen braking a lot later at the Bus Stop
Wake up & smell the smelling salts. Look around. Old stuff is better than new stuff!
The gen 7 certainly looks better.
But it is slower by 33kph and is 19kgs heavier than Gen 6.
Gen 7 would look better to me if the numbers were in the middle
Too bad you can't get Bill Elliott's #9 Thunderbird that he broke the speed records in at Talladega and Daytona, back in 1987 to run against both of these cars. They had that car running like a rocket sled on rails!!
212.809 mph at Talladega and 210.364 mph at Daytona
Would been interesting to see them at Sonoma
Great question. On such a lower speed technical track, we would think Gen 7 would have an advantage with bigger brakes and wider tires. But Gen 7 is still multiple seconds slower than Gen 6 here. Almost pathetically slower, for having those advantages.
2023 pole: 77.7 seconds
2014 pole: 74.3 seconds
I need that gen 6 car
Gen 4 was the best imo but early Gen 6 was good as well
Compare 2014 with Nascar Le Mans Car
I would love to see the lap time of the G56 at the Glen. It should beat the 2014 by a margin, but G56 is far from high speeds, so 2014 would destroy it on a high speed oval.
Hey man, I'm a big fan and I just wanted to know where you get the mods for your videos. For example the f1 cars and the lmp1 cars.
Check RSS, URD and VRC's pages. Best mods for AC
@@THEWINDTUNNEL alr ty man
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I don't think this takes all differences into account. The new car has wider tires, much better brakes, and better suspension. Daytona is accurate, and the intermediate is probably close. The short track and road course would probably go to the new car because of the added grip and stopping power.
this voice is much less annoying than the other one, nice!
We are doing our best to make it sound as natural as possible!
Even the drivers are upset because they want more horsepower
Man whoever made the Next-Gen car model (or adapted it for Assetto Corsa from something else) needs to increase it's size. The cars are roughly the same size as the previous generation, but that thing looks *tiny* compared to the Gen 6 car.
Yeah, it's a bit off
Wait, you’re telling me that the Gen 6, with its solid rear axle, smaller brakes, higher profile tire and archaic steering box is hitting the same braking points AND going faster through the turns at Watkins Glen than a NextGen? I can believe the oval speed difference, but there’s too much going against the Gen 6 to not think there’s some shenanigans afoot.
Braking zones should be less for NextGen, but considering the less downforce, I can buy similar turn speeds because Watkins Glen has high speed turns. BUT, even in slow speed technical tracks like Sonoma, NextGen still is multiple seconds slower than Gen 6. If you compare lap times, NextGen is a big disappointment in terms of raw speed. I'm wondering if also Goodyear has something to do with it.
The Next Gen is considerably slower at the Glen. The only thing that does better is the braking (as you saw on the Bus Stop) the therorical qualy lap times are based on real lap times
Come to find out, you can't replace HORSEPOWER and the Gen 6 cars handled great
@alanjohnson911 I wholeheartedly agree. Which is why I quit watching NASCAR after 2014. However, an interesting observation: I overlayed the Hendrick Track Attack Gen 6 car with 850+ hp with the G56 car when they both ran at VIR, with their in-car laps. I cannot believe how much better the handling of G56 is compared to Track Attack. Although the Track Attack did get down the straights much faster, it is beast to handle that much HP at a place like VIR. But of course, that's also why 2014 racing made it rely heavily on driver skill.
@@v8ramair145
When I say Gen 6 cars handled great, in context I should've worded it......handled great for a non independent rear suspension, non-coilover shocks, solid axles and recirculating ball steering (non rack/pinion). For the suspension technology carried over from the 60s-70s obviously with more modern technology updates, it handled very good...not to mention when trying to hook up 950 HP.
Go back to 95, even faster yet, I built a road racing car out of a 93 Camaro, it's about 300 pounds lighter than the cup cars, I built the original gen 2 LT1 to 625 NA HP my best lap on the Glen is 1:16.244, I never thought to compare it before, I can't believe how much money they have into these cars to make sure that they are very slow.
I'm not surprised, lesse aero, less hp and more weight on the Gen 7.
This is what I keep saying with the gen 7, stop taking away horsepower and downforce, theres no excuse for this car to be as slow as it is, we could have record setting lap times every week with 950 horsepower and full aero package
The fans noticed the punk car's as well. I have street car's that will run faster than their junk for less than $100,000.
Agree, and the sad thing is nascar doesn't seem to care. I remember when this car came out 2 years ago. It was either Harvick or Hamlin who was appalled at how slow they were. They said it was even slower than the truck series.
Yep..it sure has
My thing is you put kilometers up there NASCAR's America miles per hour
Gen 6 by a long shot.
Is this rfactor2?
Do they have plates on for Daytona?
Yes!
It's getting slower, just like the fans
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Which car?
@@THEWINDTUNNEL 2014
So racing hp in general is going up but nascar is going down?
NASCAR 3030: 155HP. It's incredible!!!
The older car is a wiggly thing
Not true at all
Love to see my favorite year of gen 6 absolutely DECIMATE the Nextgen
And this is why Cars 3 was bullshit. McQueen was built, I’d assume, for the 2005 or 2006 NASCAR rule set. Seeing what NASCAR is right now with the current "next gens", McQueen should've DEMOLISHED Jackson Storm
2014 é meu favorito
asphalt limited late models shouldnt have as much horsepower as a cup car..
2014 I washed all the old races. I didn’t realize NASCAR’s got slower of the years reminder dude you did this with Ford Maybe try this on a Chevy or Toyota to see if that’s her actually has gotten slower
IN 2034 THE 2024 WILL LOOK FAST
In 2034 they'll be hybrids with >1000.
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Probably be like F1, turbo V6 engines that make a ton of hp.
After watching this video NASCAR decided to remove 100hp more from current gen cars...jk jk
Genial
They dont add horse power bc the new gen car cant handle it
NASCAR vs American V8 Supercars
So Trans Am?
@@derbyjrIf they use a TA1 car, then even a Gen 6 car is gonna get annihilated. Those things are some of the most genuinely unhinged race cars I've ever seen, and the ones that use a single-exit exhaust put even the old X-pipe boom tube cars to shame.
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The 2014 is WAY to loose
It's the powa!
what game is this
Assetto Corsa buckaroo
@@BetterThanSparksYT15 appreciate it
Look at all the Americans crying 😂😂
bro's talking about comments that dont exist 💀
5 IQ comment
Go brush your teeth @klayshotter
It's theoretical not theorical btw. But i like the fusion more.
Yep, the nascar vehicles get all worse
Most tracks they have 510 now .this is fake
I stopped watching when you displayed kmh over mph.
Nascar sucks now miss those 900hp days
Current car has more HP at Daytona, Talladega and Atlanta. Current car also has faster corner speeds. And at road courses it torches the old car on handling alone. Very misleading video
Can you then explain why this new car is over 2 seconds slower at one of the slowest technical tracks, sonoma? And over 2 seconds slower at Watkins Glen? NextGen is slow and the video is not misleading.
It depends if it's an early gen 6 or a late gen 6 car, they have completely different horse power number.s
900+ HP Always!!! Look at the stands! No one wants to see slow ugliest cars ever!!!
Nascar sucks, don't their engines run on corn now? Go figure.
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