Love the saturated parallel you did on the bass! It's a trick I have been doing live with my bass rigs for years now...such an awesome way to add some edge to a bass without muddying up the low end.
Been struggling getting a particular drivey kick sound that I've been after for quite some time. Threw on the 76 a cranked it and it was right off the bat so close to what I had in mind. Loving these.
Sounds great! Remember that human auditory memory is basically nil so in order for A/B-ing to be effective the transition between A and B must be as quick as possible and without interruption. Any kind of pause or talk-over impacts the listener's ability to draw meaningful conclusions.
Angelo Boltini they have quite a varied selection of plugins... I'm quite impressed - and there are others that are making plugins that are stunning. I'm not a fan at all of the "membership" model of sales so I don't do slate and wont. If they sold them separately, I'd invest but they are the ones that actually made me start looking at other places and I've found waves is just as good and there are others like eventide, house of kush, Nugen audio and others are are superior. Check them out...
Off 03:25 On 05:19 Sounds better on, slightly, but this improvement or "color" I could achieve using some default EQ plugins. There is the Wave Arts Tube Saturator 2 plugin which is worth checking out if you want an analog saturation/preamp plugin.
Your voice sounds like you need some sleep bro! Love them new plugins coming out! Just wondering you seemed to show tons of parallel processing why not just add a mix knob somewhere? Yea a mix knob ain't the same as the real deal but still... Anyways in conclusion thank you for four more toys to play with :)
The only thing I don't understand why this preamp modules are in the end of the chain, when they are used as preamp/colour boxes. Logically they should be the first elements in the chain like in real life during tracking or I'm missing something?
is reccomended to use these emulation on the input channel? i mean in studio one 3, where you can add plugins in input that "write" directly the effect in the track..(sorry for my english)
In the 70 ties and 80 ties I worked with nowadays classic mikes like Original Neumanns U67's and U47's and I am very happy with Slates VMS Sytem giving me THE choice for different Microphones for different Vocals. It's an Epipheny for me. When experincing teh Slate VTM Tape Machine it was when I heard the MCI 24 Multitrack Machine again... The same vibe and the same sound. You did a great job there Steven and Fabrice. My Compliments
I am using this plugin without the mic plugin, and to be honest I am having a hard time hearing what it does? I've been mixing for a good number of years now, so my ears are somewhat trained to hearing subtle nuanses but... well this plugin kinda eludes me. That being said, I have WAAAAYS to go when it comes to mixing. What am I supposed to listen for? Fullness? I can hear it fine when the virtual drive is set too high and it overloads, but not much before that.
I had the exact same experience. But the saturation/distortion it creates close to digital clipping seems pretty unique though. But I've noticed that if the audio source is already highly saturated then it is much harder to hear what these type of plugins are doing.
I had these slate preamps and didn't hear a difference at all so I deleted them, But now I have a Saffire pro 40 with the Black Lion mod so maybe know that my preamps are very clean and high bandwidth then I might notice a difference.
Jeanmark Rodriguez i have the Scarlett and it's hard for me to hear one. If I put it on every single track, and the mix buss, I can hear a little difference, but not much. I might only put it on vocals and the mix buss. But if I record bass and it's a rock mix, I'll throw on the FG-76 and crank it to get an awesome distorted bass sound.
Cool but what happened to the other virtual mic pre with the a to d converters? I can't wait to get these but I really wanted the original mic package, I am less keen on the new one with the analogue outs.
+Musa Henderson After analyzing different modern A/D converters I think the plan was scrapped. Most are neutral enough for prime time due to technology improvements. At least that's my understanding of the situation. My advice, if you're looking for neutral high quality converters at a relatively affordable is to get either Audient's iD14 or iD22 (slightly better due to converter differences and ability to by pass the preamps) interface. That's probably what I'll do if I ever buy VMS.
+RealHomeRecording.com at the moment I'm using focusrite converters which I'm happy with, generally, but that original package just seemed more attractive, even he fact it was rackable over a desktop. I'm in the market for a better mic this seemed like a good choice but now I'm leaning to getting a "normal" mic in the £1000 range. Thanks for the reply. Appreciate the thoughts.
+SlateTV Gotcha, the video says it is $24 not $24.99 which is why I was confused. It made for a $12 discrepancy compared to the annual. Thanks for clarifying that
I have a question guys. Is the Virtual Preamp Collection (FG73 & FG76) included when we purchase the VMS Virtual Microphone System? If it isn't, i would love to get the plugins now first with its introductory price. Will only be getting the VMS next month. Thanks =)
I have tried to demo the plugs and get the Free plugs. My iLock account doesnt work. You have to Purchase a iLock even if you want to try the Free plugins. I will go back to the Waves super sale. Never thought I would see the day that Waves has the best deals with least amount of headaches.
If one didnt care about matching the exact tone of old hardware exactly, can anyone tell me how a high-quality colored preamp hardware is better than plugins like these? I was considering getting a neve portico, but am I getting more than just pure tonality if that makes sense? I have clean preamps at the moment on my interface (audient id14 so they are pretty good if a little lifeless), but if I liven my clean amps with plugins do i need a high quality hardware preamp? (aside from the fact that nobody 'needs' a high quality preamp i know)
There's advantages to each and there's been a lot out there written about this better than I can sum up. But listen to your ears. I've listened to a lot of shootouts and honestly I almost always preferred the analog, even in blind shootouts. Admittedly the difference is small, like the digital is a 9 and analog a 10 but still analog is better enough that I'm hoping to get a BAE 1073 or similar. If you can afford an analog preamp then do it! However I firmly believe you can create a pro sounding track without real analog or even virtual analog and it's not like this will be the deciding factor in my success or failure as a musician. I do in fact have some virtual analog channel strips and I do use them - still I don't buy this hype that these plug-ins will magically transform my music, especially more so than good mixing techniques and proper EQing etc. I recently attended a seminar with a mastering engineer who argued not against plug-ins but just going overboard with them. And even if I mix a song entirely at home and in the box any track worth a damn I will at least have professionally mastered, at that point it will be run through an assortment of analog gear and pick up some of that coveted warmth. There was really a dramatic difference between the mixdown and the professionally mastered song examples so don't overlook how that will play into things.
I got a 73-like preamp in my 500 series and I could say that the fullness and richness of a solid hardware pre is irreplaceable. You can get much smoother saturation especially when you cranked your pre hardly. But FG73 is somewhat very close but lack of a bit of mojo that only hardware can give you. So far I love mixing ITB with Slate Digital stuff and I used my analog gear less and less often
Every analogue piece of gear sounds marginally different due to tolerance variation in manufacturing, whereas plugins are modelled, on the whole, on a single piece of hardware. Therefore, particularly when it goes to attempting to model a console, a single plugin will sound the same over multiple channels, whereas an analogue console will have variances between channels that engineers might identity as being more suited to particular instruments. These occur due to the design of the console and things like voltage variations between channels. This process is modelled by some console emulations on the market but you can't define which channel emulation is being used on a particular track at any given time. Another example of this would be the variation in sound between the FG-N and the Scheps 73. They are modelled on different individual units of the same hardware and sound different subsequently. As a simpler level, modelling simply hasn't gotten to the stage yet where it can reproduce that analogue "mojo"in a perfect manner. You pay for that mojo, however and spending the money on top end analogue gear versus a preamp modelling plugin should be subject to a cost/benefit analysis, taking into account personal circumstances of both finances and application. In essence, you want your tracks to sound the best they can within your budget, so choose the weapon that works for you and you can afford. You can buy a genuine 1073 preamp, a 1073 clone or use your I/O pre and the FG73 and get similar results. It just depends on what works for you.
where can I download the new vmr rev? the gobbler "app" does nothing on a PC. its basically a big FAQ page. Cant find downloads at slatedigital. My ilok lists the new modules but they arent in my DAW
+Damage Dave slatedigital.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/215230278-Everything-Bundle-Subscription-Installers?Slate%20Digital%20-%20New%20Virtual%20Preamps,%20S-Virtual%20Guitar%20Amps,%20and%20Eiosis%20EQs
I don't find these useful for any recorded audio, they are way too subtle. But I've had great success with throwing these on sampled instruments, namely strings and brass. Crank and listen.
Hey Romen! We'll help you out, hit up support www.slatesupport.com and we'll get everything sorted for you. For the VMR issue, make sure your file path for the install overwrites your old VMR, that will likely fix it.
+SlateTV Thanks! That's exactly what it was. Should have took my time. Lol. I deleted the old files, and made sure the path was to the correct folder and everything worked fine. SOUNDS GREAT!!!
Been struggling getting a particular drivey kick sound that I've been after for quite some time. Threw on the 76 a cranked it and it was right off the bat so close to what I had in mind. Loving these.
I have found in general putting neve colour on a kick makes it sound so much more 'right' I almost always track with some kind of neve like pre on the kick.
+JimijaymesGuitarist because there are really no rules (I don't have to follow the real world signal flow), so I use the preamps at the end so I can control the saturation on the entire chain. But I also use them at the beginning too.. it really depends on what I'm after. - Steven
+SlateTV yeah of course when it comes to colour whatever sounds best works. I just more wondered why you didn't have an example in the chain as it would appear, sounds great still. I guess this also depends on the source in some cases the dynamic response might work better before compression or at least sound very different especially if using a lot of compression (like I sometimes do on vocals or bass). Look forward to trying it out still pumped for virtual microphones.
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When you run a bunch of super successful companies with incredible products and STILL have time to give people cool mix tips and tricks. What a guy
promotion and advertisement of his products is part of the job description
Dude's plugins are expensive, he's making serious bank every time someone buy's into this and you think he's a champ for hyping up his own stuff?
14 bucks a month for everything is sooooo worth it. Love Slate products!
@@rt-uh6mt yes.it is awesome
My company just purchased the Everything Bundle along with the SSD4 and Chris Lord Alge expansion. I con't wait to dig in.
Love the saturated parallel you did on the bass! It's a trick I have been doing live with my bass rigs for years now...such an awesome way to add some edge to a bass without muddying up the low end.
FG-76 really makes the mix pop.
Slate digital is the best.
VCC and VTM gives me that sound.. and Pre AMP
Been struggling getting a particular drivey kick sound that I've been after for quite some time. Threw on the 76 a cranked it and it was right off the bat so close to what I had in mind. Loving these.
The saturation from these plugs is just wonderful, just what I was looking for. Slate have done it again. Amazing company. Thanks.
Sounds great!
Remember that human auditory memory is basically nil so in order for A/B-ing to be effective the transition between A and B must be as quick as possible and without interruption. Any kind of pause or talk-over impacts the listener's ability to draw meaningful conclusions.
I learnt a lot, thank you Steven! Very happy All Access customer here. The plugins sound amazing.
I really like this style of video, man! This is way better than before... this feels so genuine. Excited to try the plugins!
Dam I was listening on my phone and even I could hear the difference!
Slate Digital really did it!
man I a loving the distortion on those preamps I am loving this everything bundle
Another great Slate product; thanks for all the hard work and innovation!!
This promo video is more pleasant to me than other slate ones. Steven's voice is more natural and not exaggerated (Bigger is better) like in others.
+soulguitar77 I Agree...very natural. Very natural delivery Steven.
wish they will make APIs in the future
Waves.com has them and they are really really good. Their modeling process is simply amazing.
i have them, just that i want to use them all inside Slate's rack lol
Tuan Ngo Hoang Anh
ahh lol I see -- you know what, I totally agree with you on this Waves needs to get a similar rack!
The waves ones are just EQ's and comp, right? Or have they released a preamp emulation since?
Angelo Boltini
they have quite a varied selection of plugins... I'm quite impressed - and there are others that are making plugins that are stunning. I'm not a fan at all of the "membership" model of sales so I don't do slate and wont. If they sold them separately, I'd invest but they are the ones that actually made me start looking at other places and I've found waves is just as good and there are others like eventide, house of kush, Nugen audio and others are are superior. Check them out...
Thanks, Steven. I always love your products and tutorials.
Off 03:25 On 05:19
Sounds better on, slightly, but this improvement or "color" I could achieve using some default EQ plugins. There is the Wave Arts Tube Saturator 2 plugin which is worth checking out if you want an analog saturation/preamp plugin.
@@joewellman8807 slate. No question
Your voice sounds like you need some sleep bro! Love them new plugins coming out! Just wondering you seemed to show tons of parallel processing why not just add a mix knob somewhere? Yea a mix knob ain't the same as the real deal but still... Anyways in conclusion thank you for four more toys to play with :)
+zfalcon1 This is exactky what I liked on this promo, Stevens voice is more natural and calm, not theatrical...
The only thing I don't understand why this preamp modules are in the end of the chain, when they are used as preamp/colour boxes. Logically they should be the first elements in the chain like in real life during tracking or I'm missing something?
is reccomended to use these emulation on the input channel? i mean in studio one 3, where you can add plugins in input that "write" directly the effect in the track..(sorry for my english)
Before 03:25 - After 05:19
Is there a possibility VMR will have the ability to host VSTs? I can see it being even more useful if you can.
So tell me how do you apply before or after,?
10:49 "Let's crank that sucker too" 😂
WAITING FOR MY ILOK 2 TO TEST THIS AWESOMES PLUGINS STEVEN U DO IT AGAIN
Looks great! Sounds awsome!!
Quite the articulation.
As all your plugins they add a kind of extra value and class not otherwise discribed. I use your plugins in every mix I make
In the 70 ties and 80 ties I worked with nowadays classic mikes like Original Neumanns U67's and U47's and I am very happy with Slates VMS Sytem giving me THE choice for different Microphones for different Vocals. It's an Epipheny for me.
When experincing teh Slate VTM Tape Machine it was when I heard the MCI 24 Multitrack Machine again... The same vibe and the same sound. You did a great job there Steven and Fabrice. My Compliments
I got the monthly package. Im downloading now!
crazytrashman123 how was it
I am using this plugin without the mic plugin, and to be honest I am having a hard time hearing what it does? I've been mixing for a good number of years now, so my ears are somewhat trained to hearing subtle nuanses but... well this plugin kinda eludes me. That being said, I have WAAAAYS to go when it comes to mixing. What am I supposed to listen for? Fullness? I can hear it fine when the virtual drive is set too high and it overloads, but not much before that.
I had the exact same experience. But the saturation/distortion it creates close to digital clipping seems pretty unique though. But I've noticed that if the audio source is already highly saturated then it is much harder to hear what these type of plugins are doing.
I had these slate preamps and didn't hear a difference at all so I deleted them, But now I have a Saffire pro 40 with the Black Lion mod so maybe know that my preamps are very clean and high bandwidth then I might notice a difference.
Jeanmark Rodriguez i have the Scarlett and it's hard for me to hear one. If I put it on every single track, and the mix buss, I can hear a little difference, but not much. I might only put it on vocals and the mix buss. But if I record bass and it's a rock mix, I'll throw on the FG-76 and crank it to get an awesome distorted bass sound.
So is that input gain compensated. If so why is the from pot there?
It seems there is a jump in volume when you a/b
what cheap interface are you talking about?? it sounded good all ready without any processing.
Beautiful.
can you use the virtual preamps for tracking guitars or bass. Will latency not be too much of an issue
did it for vocals no latency
Thank you for the great tutorial
Cool but what happened to the other virtual mic pre with the a to d converters? I can't wait to get these but I really wanted the original mic package, I am less keen on the new one with the analogue outs.
+Musa Henderson VMS is coming soon too!
+SlateTV awesome I just kept seeing vms one so I started to think that the stereo one had been canned.
+SlateTV Can you get this thing without gobbler I have been subscribed to your bundle and it doesnt even activate my plugins? This app is crap
+Musa Henderson After analyzing different modern A/D converters I think the plan was scrapped. Most are neutral enough for prime time due to technology improvements. At least that's my understanding of the situation.
My advice, if you're looking for neutral high quality converters at a relatively affordable is to get either Audient's iD14 or iD22 (slightly better due to converter differences and ability to by pass the preamps) interface. That's probably what I'll do if I ever buy VMS.
+RealHomeRecording.com at the moment I'm using focusrite converters which I'm happy with, generally, but that original package just seemed more attractive, even he fact it was rackable over a desktop. I'm in the market for a better mic this seemed like a good choice but now I'm leaning to getting a "normal" mic in the £1000 range. Thanks for the reply. Appreciate the thoughts.
Why does it cost more to purchase an annual subscription vs the monthly. I would expect it to be the opposite
+Ken Dudley Same cost, one is $24.99 monthly and the other is $299 annually. Well, ok 11 cents difference... :)
+SlateTV Gotcha, the video says it is $24 not $24.99 which is why I was confused. It made for a $12 discrepancy compared to the annual. Thanks for clarifying that
I have a question guys. Is the Virtual Preamp Collection (FG73 & FG76) included when we purchase the VMS Virtual Microphone System? If it isn't, i would love to get the plugins now first with its introductory price. Will only be getting the VMS next month. Thanks =)
+Junyang JY Yes these will come bundled with the VMS.
+SlateTV thank u so much for the clarification =) u guys r awesome
I GET IT MY OWN 500 RACK VST LOVE IT
Why in the song that has been mixed do you the preamp last in the chain, doesn't make sense to me as normally a preamp is first after the mic
+JimijaymesGuitarist probably to get the distortion of the processed signal instead of distrotion before the eq's and comps. No wrong way to do it.
in the analog realm you might run a recorded track through a preamp or channel strip to get a certain color or beef it up
reminds me of Owen Wilson
I have tried to demo the plugs and get the Free plugs. My iLock account doesnt work. You have to Purchase a iLock even if you want to try the Free plugins. I will go back to the Waves super sale. Never thought I would see the day that Waves has the best deals with least amount of headaches.
If one didnt care about matching the exact tone of old hardware exactly, can anyone tell me how a high-quality colored preamp hardware is better than plugins like these? I was considering getting a neve portico, but am I getting more than just pure tonality if that makes sense? I have clean preamps at the moment on my interface (audient id14 so they are pretty good if a little lifeless), but if I liven my clean amps with plugins do i need a high quality hardware preamp? (aside from the fact that nobody 'needs' a high quality preamp i know)
Im just looking for technical advantages of hardware besides tonality, or if the tonality is much more rich
There's advantages to each and there's been a lot out there written about this better than I can sum up. But listen to your ears. I've listened to a lot of shootouts and honestly I almost always preferred the analog, even in blind shootouts. Admittedly the difference is small, like the digital is a 9 and analog a 10 but still analog is better enough that I'm hoping to get a BAE 1073 or similar. If you can afford an analog preamp then do it! However I firmly believe you can create a pro sounding track without real analog or even virtual analog and it's not like this will be the deciding factor in my success or failure as a musician. I do in fact have some virtual analog channel strips and I do use them - still I don't buy this hype that these plug-ins will magically transform my music, especially more so than good mixing techniques and proper EQing etc. I recently attended a seminar with a mastering engineer who argued not against plug-ins but just going overboard with them. And even if I mix a song entirely at home and in the box any track worth a damn I will at least have professionally mastered, at that point it will be run through an assortment of analog gear and pick up some of that coveted warmth. There was really a dramatic difference between the mixdown and the professionally mastered song examples so don't overlook how that will play into things.
I got a 73-like preamp in my 500 series and I could say that the fullness and richness of a solid hardware pre is irreplaceable. You can get much smoother saturation especially when you cranked your pre hardly. But FG73 is somewhat very close but lack of a bit of mojo that only hardware can give you. So far I love mixing ITB with Slate Digital stuff and I used my analog gear less and less often
Every analogue piece of gear sounds marginally different due to tolerance variation in manufacturing, whereas plugins are modelled, on the whole, on a single piece of hardware. Therefore, particularly when it goes to attempting to model a console, a single plugin will sound the same over multiple channels, whereas an analogue console will have variances between channels that engineers might identity as being more suited to particular instruments. These occur due to the design of the console and things like voltage variations between channels. This process is modelled by some console emulations on the market but you can't define which channel emulation is being used on a particular track at any given time.
Another example of this would be the variation in sound between the FG-N and the Scheps 73. They are modelled on different individual units of the same hardware and sound different subsequently.
As a simpler level, modelling simply hasn't gotten to the stage yet where it can reproduce that analogue "mojo"in a perfect manner. You pay for that mojo, however and spending the money on top end analogue gear versus a preamp modelling plugin should be subject to a cost/benefit analysis, taking into account personal circumstances of both finances and application. In essence, you want your tracks to sound the best they can within your budget, so choose the weapon that works for you and you can afford. You can buy a genuine 1073 preamp, a 1073 clone or use your I/O pre and the FG73 and get similar results. It just depends on what works for you.
As far as technical advantages go, a plugin is a lot lighter than a preamp but a plugin will not amplify a microphone signal.
What are the differences between the FG73 and the drive on the FG-N? Thanks!
+Chris Moore great question..
+Chris Moore The FG73 emulates the line amp circuit (along with the EQ) and the FG-N models the mic amp circuit.
+Henrik Petersson (Fruitful Life) you switched those around. The FG-N does line and Eq, the 73 is the mic preamp.
+Lucas Eckel Yeah sorry, mixed them up! Differences still applies though.
I keep coming here looking for Slate's 2016 April fools :(
where can I download the new vmr rev? the gobbler "app" does nothing on a PC. its basically a big FAQ page. Cant find downloads at slatedigital. My ilok lists the new modules but they arent in my DAW
slatedigital.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/215230278-Everything-Bundle-Subscription-Installers?Slate%20Digital%20-%20New%20Virtual%20Preamps,%20S-Virtual%20Guitar%20Amps,%20and%20Eiosis%20EQs
+Damage Dave slatedigital.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/215230278-Everything-Bundle-Subscription-Installers?Slate%20Digital%20-%20New%20Virtual%20Preamps,%20S-Virtual%20Guitar%20Amps,%20and%20Eiosis%20EQs
+MrZyrenda thank you very much
I don't find these useful for any recorded audio, they are way too subtle. But I've had great success with throwing these on sampled instruments, namely strings and brass. Crank and listen.
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awesome xD
I just updated to the full 24$ download. The reverb won't work and and the new VMR IS GREYED OUT. What's going on with this?
Hey Romen! We'll help you out, hit up support www.slatesupport.com and we'll get everything sorted for you. For the VMR issue, make sure your file path for the install overwrites your old VMR, that will likely fix it.
+SlateTV Thanks! That's exactly what it was. Should have took my time. Lol. I deleted the old files, and made sure the path was to the correct folder and everything worked fine. SOUNDS GREAT!!!
Its petty how this video implies the Studio 192 is the same class as the Scarlett lol
Desssssess pls...
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Been struggling getting a particular drivey kick sound that I've been after for quite some time. Threw on the 76 a cranked it and it was right off the bat so close to what I had in mind. Loving these.
These have the answer to everything in them
I have found in general putting neve colour on a kick makes it sound so much more 'right' I almost always track with some kind of neve like pre on the kick.
Why in the song that has been mixed do you the preamp last in the chain, doesn't make sense to me as normally a preamp is first after the mic
+JimijaymesGuitarist because there are really no rules (I don't have to follow the real world signal flow), so I use the preamps at the end so I can control the saturation on the entire chain. But I also use them at the beginning too.. it really depends on what I'm after. - Steven
+SlateTV yeah of course when it comes to colour whatever sounds best works. I just more wondered why you didn't have an example in the chain as it would appear, sounds great still. I guess this also depends on the source in some cases the dynamic response might work better before compression or at least sound very different especially if using a lot of compression (like I sometimes do on vocals or bass). Look forward to trying it out still pumped for virtual microphones.