Xiaomi builds the SU7 in 76 seconds using worlds biggest gigacasting machine
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- Xiaomi builds the SU7 in 76 seconds using worlds biggest gigacasting machine
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There are two mobile phone companies. One announced their ev plan 10 years ago and invested huge amount of money. It announced dumping car manufacturing plan last month. Another company announced same plan 3 years ago. And started selling its first car SU7 last month. The former is Apple and the latter is Xiaomi.
You need dynamic leadership like Steve Jobs, Elon Musk or this guy at Xiaomi.
Tim Cook might be a good manager of what Steve Jobs already put into motion but he’s nowhere close to the dynamic leader creating new innovations or setting the environment for this to happen.
My student went to the car show and said that the xiaomi sv7 looked good, but nobody wants it because it's garbage
@@markfan9068 LOL. That's a lie
And Xiaomi has had considerable quality issues reported in China.
From want you said, either your student is a garbage himself, or you are. I'm wondering what you are teaching and how much you know about EV@@markfan9068
Xiaomi is not only a mobile phone/tablets/laptop maker, they also make all ranges of network ready smart electronic appliance, like TV, fridges, aircon, pressure cooker, power tools et al, and they are very popular in China, I got a lot of Xiaomi at home, all connected to network and smart speakers, mobile and voice control through smart speakers, so good. Oh, by the way, BYD makes Xiaomi mobile phones.
They are also apparently really good at corporate espionage 🧐
@@vcracing The cry of the weak~😩
@@llkk290 It's a common problem for foreign companies doing business in China.
@@vcracing This is a kind of ability~Every industrial power has industrial spies~
@@llkk290 That's definitely true
Xiaomi products were always top tier. Interested to see how the car will turn out.
They built the he SU7 like a glorified phone. A lot of buyers are finding out the hard way that first generation vehicles are notoriously plagued with issues. There are plenty of videos on TH-cam demonstrating this.
Major issues with this car failed brakes and panels falling off
I'm not surprised. A friend of mine, who's name is on the Tesla patent for 'integrated energy absorbing castings' (aka Gigacasting) told me before they were being first used in the Model Y that 'everyone will have to do this eventually because it saves so much time and money'.
Yeah, right, your "friend" told you this. Sure.
@@kickithard don't be a thick twat all your life.
Friends in China are complaining about failing features inside and out, esp. the panels by the front tires. There are plenty of videos online displaying the inefficiencies. Kind regards to all.
One of the best looking EVs, this company will do well, with leadership like this!
Agreed. The SU7 is one pretty car. That special blue color on it is my favorite . I hate car payments but I'd seriously go into debt to have one of these cars. I hope they come to the US.
Not many of them will be sold in the US or Europe though...
Yup. It looks just like the Porsche Taycan. 🤣🤣
It looks good because it’s a Porsche Taycan clone
It's not _"build in 76 seconds,"_ it's _"every 76 seconds"_ they produce a car
it seems like people doesn't understand how production line works😂😂
What’s insane to me is that Germany is buying Chinese ev tooling .
Tesla and Germany buy from Idra in Italy.
@@100c0c Acquired by a Chinese company
Porsche will use CATL batteries for their EVs
@@oscc9035 The machine is designed and manufactured in Italy. The company Xiaomi uses is fully Chinese.
No, BMW Group settled in Shanghai years ago to produce their their most complex pieces produced for each brands, even Rolls Royce and Bentley... Mooney is alone, they should all collaborate better!
The company name in italy is IDRA not HYDRA😂
Hail Hydra!
@@georgeorwell7291 well done 😆
Some pronounce it as eye-dra. idra
Could sound like hydra.
@@infospeednyc1708 yes. As Musk said though, only the Italians at idra were even prepared to have look at the idea.
Hydra sounds cooler
1 every 76 second is slower that Tesla shanghai where a car rolls off the line every 40 or 50 seconds. This number impressess visitors and maybe helps with logistics.
A far more interesting number is how much did it cost you to build the car.
76sec/car is about 1/4 of Tesla global production for 2023 (according to Tesla IR).
BTW, the same source says, the only delivered 3/4 of these cars. They must have a bug parking lot somewhere. 😂
@@fromgermany271 As I have been saying the real metic is cost per car or even better the profit margin. If any.
wrong,idts
All I can see in my head is the movie Gung Ho (Michael Keaton movie) when I listened to this...
Yes, agreed 👍 😅 I watched the movie various times and noticed that the feeling of US people accepting Japanese cars was unacceptable for the first years, and slowly, we saw less tin door sounds and growing improvements.
Even VW German cars, BMW Audi, cars were called bad names, as I recall still in my grade school.
That hits memories of my family trying so hard during tough times in parts of life.
My Mom took insults being called nazi even though her family helped hiding jews from the nazi soldiers who hunted them in nearby areas. Everyone knew neighbors were always good people before the war.
My Mom showed me years after, she saved newspapers of adds, saying people from Germany, Italy, Africa etc.. weren't appreciated, and newspapers with job openings added that only certain ethnic groups were accepted before President Kennedy and other presidents changed all that 🤔
and because she came to the USA on a ship, and she was happy to be a caregiver luckily with a wealthy family because of her farmer traditions and virtues.. later, even though as we were children, she often motivated us with scary things like her experiences of airplanes and bombs falling so often, just thank heavens you're alive and showing pictures of one arm people or one leg, and they sometimes proved that they still have plenty of motivation. She brought us to tears sometimes realizing her scary years of unimaginable things you don't wish on anyone.
It's a good thing to realize we're given a healthy life to help improve everyone's lives, especially when we realize how our past generations lived 😊 ..
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... try try again to achieve steps to your goals and your family traditions have better chances to be honored for future generations. 😊
Her motivation helped me every day to draw things closer to real even as a child, cleaning various things to learn how to reassembly can oftentimes work to relate to other types of mechanical issues. Trace pictures until you can easily draw by free hand many types of houses, planes, cars...
Later I won the NY state high school tech school competitions award for architecture and design and very soon after I was approached by Boeing Aircraft Company top architecture department man because I wasn't accepting art universities or other invitations, but today we see they're quality problems and now China's Comac C919 is growing popularity... yet I declined the offer to learn Boeing's architecture department process because I wanted to prioritize families' home improvements cheap or free for years ...
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and here's the kickers 😄 recently 😮 Tesla EVs opened one of the very few stores exactly behind my small town home improvements home office, and things just got interesting because friends are asking me to step up our weekend car hobby into a mini EVs business and more people growing awareness of EVs many advantages and benefits for us and the environment 😊
Being independent and growing my own business with very few helpers is suddenly making me realize my mistakes are more often than I thought because my helpers always just needed me to share knowledge with the next level of building experience they already know and just adding more trust to adding the more experienced guys to help promote newer helpers is simpler than I thought..
I was always worried about quality and reputation, and that's not true.
So always try try harder to improve lives and learn more languages as this adds IQ also to learn more 😉
My father was stationed in the military in the same small town in Germany as where Mom was raised and yet they met thorough a friend that heard about the related stories 🤔 😊
So my father had experience with Ford assembly line production in Mahwah NJ ...
He taught me other parts of assembly and vehicles parts, combined with Mom's experience from various things, and various things that my high school friends and I were able to innovate used cars on weekends at less costs than most young people could have because of searching bargains and home made shop.
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But that was in my teens.
Before ..
First, Dad worked on welding and learned other parts of assembly, then a couple years later moved an hour North of NYCity areas to a quieter area until recent years 🙄 😮
Korean cars, Vietnam EVs, China EVs, and more, and some of us love watching classic movies reminding us of how our world is closer together than people realize 😊
Su7 has lots of quality issues - reminds me of Tesla in the early days. If they can hone that it will be interesting.
China's manufacturing process is unmatched. I'm from India for my company often we need very specialised components. No one except China can manufacture it for that price, scale, speed and efficiency. Moreover Chinese people are so friendly and understanding, it's a pleasure to do business in China❤
No this sounds like a china-bot
@@Bikerbug2020 no this sounds like a nato-bot
India will get there too!
India and China working together will be unstoppable!!!😉👌
@@abibirawa4119yeah because what he is saying is not true
CCP = Pure TRASH
Man if this car comes to Canada I'm buying one..what a beauty..
yes, buy it, buy it, you will be satisfied, best cars, we Chinese learned very fast, now we have better technology as western or Japanese,🦾🦾
It’s complete junk, you have been warned
Crap cars, better to stay away from them. Run!
biden won't let you...
biden won't let you....
The production innovation doesn't matter if the finished product is junk.
Wait 5 yrs from now, all you can do is sourgrape.
It will be interesting to see whether a whole undebody casting ends up being the best solution. Tesla thought so, but that doesn't fit in with the Unboxed process. Making the car in three separate modules and then mating them much nearer the end might be a better option.
Uh no - it's actually a big part of the unboxed process at least according to some articles I've read like the autoblog article titled "Gigacasting 2.0: Tesla looks to diecast nearly the entire underbody in one piece".
Is it possible that Viking doesn't know the difference between capacity/throughput of the production line and the time needed for building one car?
He is a viking fighting with units of measurement on all fronts.
Yes, they produce 1 car/76 sec, but in 76 sec even paint wouldn't dry. The whole process is quite certainly longer.
Its óbvios they make several at the same time, it goes without saying
IDRA Group is owned by LK Technology Hong Kong.
I like Xiaomi EV
60 seconds production rate is achieved by many auto assembly lines around the world. Tesla does 43 seconds in Shanghai. It Takes Tesla about 10 hours to build a car.
OZ CarSauce daddies are currently at the Beijing Auto Show. They are going to test drive the SU7 . 😻😻
Hope they don't crash it intentionally to test the frame studiness.
They are also testing BYD U8 suv.
A Fully Charged reporter I really has test driven the SU7 and is preparing his YT review now. I'm really looking forward to it. On the surface, I don't get how the SU7 can sell at it's projected MSRP versus its performance and still be profitable. Time will tell...
Sounds like a failed Russian aircraft
@@erictheblue7256 Yep. Elliot Richards. Coming out in a week or so.
The SU7 is a nice looking car. Getting really tired of looking at huge front grills like on the fugly Haval.
Sam, you're a little bit misinformed here. Legacy manufacturers have an average build time of 60-65 seconds. Tesla can build Model 3/Y vehicles in 45 seconds, so 76 seconds is no great shakes. I'm sure they will get faster. Of course, when we say "build time" that isn't the absolute truth. It may take hours or days for a vehicle to start being made from the very beginning, right through to driving it off the production line. But the rate of vehicles coming off a single production line is indeed measured in seconds. It's quite an achievement when you think about it. However, there is "dead time" during any production line process, and if you add up all this dead time within the production of a vehicle, it amounts to a heck of a lot. To combat this, companies like Tesla are in transition to other processes, like the "Unboxed" method. It has other advantages, but one of them is less dead time.
EDIT: I suppose I could give a typical example of dead time. Let's say there is an operator/fitter installing a part on a vehicle. When that is complete the fitter goes to get the next part and return for the next install. That's the dead time. The production line process in that part of the assembly line has been idle, and therefore it adds cost. This can be reduced by the design of the vehicle, the design of the part [or no part as Tesla routinely have it], the speed/ease of install, the ergonomics of the parts layouts/supply, the design of the production process, etc. And on and on until you run out of ways to improve. Which is virtually impossible. As Edison was said to say, "There's a better way. Find it."
Aaaa Edison the one that stole everything from Nikola Tesla
This is not 'build time, but rather the pace they come off the line.
VW takes 30 hours, Tesla 10, now aiming for 3 hours for the Model 2
Let face it. Sam can be the expert for everything. So now and then he repeats from other channels without verification
@@stationbright774 I assume you meant "can't be the expert for everything" A little crucial typo there. No indeed he can't, which is why I don't give him a hard time when I know his information is slightly flawed. I would hope that people would be easy on me if I was the purveyor of slightly flawed info. I try not to be when I comment.
Mr. Edison's way to "Find It" was often to steal it from someone else...
That was an amazing regurgitation of the Xiaomi PR materials. You've used terms like fastest, biggest, most technologically advanced, profitable, etc. without ANY evidence. As your title headline asserts, they may be using the "worlds biggest gigacasting machine" but nothing you reported showed an actual "worlds biggest gigacasting." In addition, you spoke about production ramping and quoted a production time of 76 seconds, which sounds more like a hypothetical goal rather than a current reality.
well he always say at the end: "I don't know... what do you think?"
Spot on. I felt like vomiting watching this. No critical analysis, just mindless fanboy cheering.
According to Ducker & Carlisle (Ducker Carlisle is a global consulting and M&A advisory company with an unrivaled continuum of insights, benchmarking, and strategy solutions headquartered in Troy Michigan USA with offices in Europe(France, Germany, UK), 2 in north America etc ), as of 2023, China leads the globe in producing vehicles with a megacasting at 700,000 vehicles, or 2.8% of total production. It’s forecasted to grow to more than 2 million by 2030, or 6.4% of total production. North America is second with 400,000, or 2.4% of total production. Of the vehicles in the European Union, 260,000, or 1.8% of total production, have a megacasting.
And it's not event production of a full car. Yes, ever 76s there can roll a car off the assembly line. But that is not the time from start to finish. It's just the time every small part of the assembly line gets to finish their part. And there are many parts that make up an assembly line. So producing a single car can take (i'm guessing here) 27 hours to go through the entire line. So you can't order a car and drive it after 2 minutes.
As far as my understanding, Xaoimi does use many (underpaid) workers on the assembly line. But they conviently leave that part out of their video. Have you seen the part where they install the dasboard, wheels, seats, wiring, windows, batterypacks on the car? No? That's because it's not marketing material. The mega-casting is just an example of "my thing is bigger and better than yours". 😆
Thats the classic Viking: just telling stories. He never tries something himself.
Once you understand the four key factors of manufacturing: people, methods, capital, and markets, you can easily predict that China is a potential leader in any product as long as the product is deemed by the Chinese government to be of great significance to the national economy. Simply put, if a technology is not protected by patents (and therefore subject to sanctions barriers in some countries), it will be produced in China, better and cheaper. It's just math.
Somehow SU7 is absolute carbage of a car - even with gigacasting included. They cheaped out with everything, even the wiring harnesses are using aluminium instead of copper.
The production numbers they have completely disprove this claim.
Guys he got other videos which tells the bad things about Chinese ev industry. But his comments and the way he talks are always, at least to me, objective. I think this guy is being honest in his comment. And of course he make mistake just like every human being in the world, but that doesn’t makes him anti-China or pro CCP. Please stop the radicalism. From China
I remember in the 70s, the American perception of Japan and Japanese products was not high, even though their cameras and hi-fi equipment were already very high calibre. The perception was totally modified (almost overnight) when Lexus was introduced.
The American culture is a car culture. If you can serve them good cars, they will be impressed.
I predict their perception of China will take the same course.
With the long front end on these Chinese cars and the pillar camera in the same location as Tesla, there is no way these will make quality self-driving cars like a Tesla
Amazing! I still get blown away how quiet my Zoe is inside.
The car looks amazing and sold at a very competitive price point. It screams disruption and death of the legacy auto business model, where they have always sold the sporty car at a premium and forced the rest of buyers to drive average-looking cars. Excited to see how fast they can ramp, how good the car will actually be in use etc. Many questions, good luck to Xiaomi, hope they can execute and expedite more legacy auto CEOs into retirement.
What matters is cost to build at the scale they can achieve.
Of course it looks amazing, when it's copied Porsche Taycan!
@@Alarix246 And they crash like a 911 with inexperienced driver.
This is the car I want!
"death", yes unfortunately!!! As for smartphones, others will continue better, as Xpeng Motors which is the OPPO of vehicles!
From my understanding more gigacasting Tones do not equal better castings, Tesla ist using only 6000 t to cast the Modle Y front and rear, and it is optimised the flow of the molten alloy and is using their own developed material, whitch means Teslas Castings are better because they are probably cheaper and have a lower cycle time due to the lower force needed
Please please do a little more researcg.... Absolutely not, they aint building a car in 76 seconds.... they output one each 76 seconds (or will when at capasity). Please TheElectricViking change this stupid title. As now, it only shows that you dont understand this at all. I like your videos, so please fix this embarrasing error. BTW: Model Y in Giga Berlin has an output of one car every (aprox 45 seconds). From start to end, it takes Tesla aprox 9-10 hours to build the Y. VW uses aproc 30 hours on their ID4... So why use woirds as "in the history of man kind".... etc about this factory&product?
Pumpers gotta pump!
remember… higher tonnage casting does not mean superior
TSLA has engineered their casting so well - they can cast at less tonnage
Actually, Sam, Sandy Munro stated in an interview that Tesla was pushing out model Y's at a rate of 34 s. per unit. Can't remember which interview it was but 76 s. is fast but not quite as fast as Tesla.
PS - all Chaoimi (sp?) how many of these so called Giga presses they have. If it's not more than one then they can't do better that 100 s. as that is how long your report started the pressing process takes which would be a limiting factor or choke point for their manufacturing process.
This is all theoretical. This company is just trying to ride on the coattails of Tesla's success.
I love this vehicle. I'm just waiting for them to come up with an SUV the size of the Tesla Model Y. BYD is being too slow off the mark. Maybe Xiaomi can beat them to it.
WALL-E is going to have a lot of work in the future
I already knew that company's like GM and Ford were a long way behind (albeit not as far behind as most Japan automakers) Seeing this car and this production method drives it home for me that even IF these companies could see the forest through the trees or IF they were interested in making the investing in this technology or IF they wanted to sell that many EV's or IF they had the engineering talent to develop a technology to compete with this. they still could not catch up to this simply because by the time they do the majority of the automotive will be split up. Meaning the EV race will be essentially over. They are just lightyears behind and that's a lot of IF's
Xiaomi CEO is confident because they can afford to lose entirely this newly created car business, because they diversified their income from every possible consumer products niche and may support unprofitable sectors indefinitely. They are like government inside the government.
Yeh they make absolutely everything from umbrellas to smart home devices. My stick vacuum is still working after 6 years and it was under $100.
Xiaomi isn't the first company that has diversified their business like this. Other companies are Philips, Sony, LG, Samsung and there are many more. Guess what? A major setback in one part of the company can have an effect on the rest of the company. Once great companies had to sell of most of their businesses to prevent bankruptcy and are now a fraction of what they used to be.
So no, this is not a risk you can afford to lose. Loose too much money on this "gamble" and your other businesses must increase their prices. Which will have impact on the competitiveness in their market and most likely a slowdown of sales. That means less income, so the compensation is done by fewer sales and that means more increased prices and so the loop continues.
I'd be interested to know if a diecast component can be repaired. Can you weld a diecast part if it gets some minor damage that might otherwise cause a writeoff?
Cyber truck uses same giga casting machine as model y. Due to reducing pressure required using AI design mold
Only for the front casting.
@@danharold3087 Tesla have 2 or 3 off "9000" tonne presses since about 2022.
@@desobrien3827 Maybe you intended to reply to MarsOzzie
99.9% accurate QA robot… couldn’t catch all those panels falling off
problem with those as with Tesla cars they are build in almost one piece and that keeps for them cheaper production but in case of car accident and almost every person will have some due to life time you will need to spend fortune for repair
Sorry, Sandy Munroe already debunked that notion. Any time you wreck the cast parts of the car, you don't 'repair' it. The Insurance company writes you a check, and tells you it's a total write off...
@@WilliamPeterson-lk4kz no it doesnt write your check if it is your fault for damage or you must pay that additional insurance much more then normal ones
So how many new cars are bought without comprehensive insurance? In some cases the financier demands that!
Castings can be welded & repaired...If there was a real engine..dinosaur juice powered, it would be faster and cheaper to repair. Otherwise it is a write off
@@johngjettermann5413 new cheap car as Fabia,Dacia,Golf,.. and new Tesla which are not so cheap for repair are not same thing when you need comprehensive insurance
It's great to see a company taking BEV manufacturing seriously. Sad to see the pull back from OEMs.
Legacy OEMs are fecked and they try to resist EVs as much as possible. Lately all car magazines and car shows paid by legacy OEMs for years are onky talking about how bad EVs are. As an EV owner, I haven't seen anyone sho wants to go back to ICE unless they had some catastrophic failure in their EV
Sam: 76 seconds is half the speed of the Model Y production line speed in Shanghai of 39 seconds
Tesla only needs the 9K machine for one end of the CyberTruck the other can be made on 6K machine due to design and material innovations reducing locking pressure requirements.
Xiaomi's SU7 looks great but those numbers are not industry leading as the ICE makes are running at a 60 second line rate
It's not _"build in 76 seconds,"_ it's _"every 76 seconds"_ they produce a car
@@MarcoYolo420 What's the difference?
@@ChickensAndGardening It takes Tesla about 10 hours to build a car, but because it is an assembly line, it is done in stages so many cars are being built at the same time. So this works out to be about 40 seconds rate per car. 76 seconds is about industry standard with many at 60 seconds.
@@ChickensAndGardening 👆🏼this 😉
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I thought it was a bad idea for Xiaomi to go into the car business, but they pulled it off in record time and why beyond my expectations for both the performance, features and appearance in such a short time.
With so much automation in their car making, they could build these cars in Europe and save on shipping costs. If the world pulls together what a fantastic life everyone could have
I don't beleive the Gigacasting is from Idra. Probably a Chinese rival to Idra.
Watch insurance prices climb on these cars. Gone are the days of replacing a front or rear quarterpanel after an accident. Its also quite easy to copy other manufacturers technologies to make them competitive. This car has more than a passing resemblance to a Porche.
Unfortunately not only on these cars, as they are not exclusively damaging each other.
If you are the reason of a crash into such a „single use“ vehicle, your insurance has to pay for the write off.
What happens when you have a bump & distort a small area of the casting or it fractures ? You write the car off as you would need to rebuild it around a new chassis?
If the frame of any car is damaged, the car is written off. Repairing can never be as good as new. I recently brushed the bumper of a parked car (two scratches about 4" long), the repair bill was $1856.00
Panels are panels, easily replaceable. The Castings are quite different.
@@markevans2280 That doesn't happen. There are no 'bumps'. If you don't break it in half, you get in and drive it home. What, you think these things are made in Detroit? :D
Video host has no mention anything about battery????😲 Xiaomi SU7 is a marvel of engineering. 😲👌👍👏👏🇨🇳❤️
Gigacasting is a great idea for EV producers. From many pieces to one. No seems, no joints, no screws, no bolts, no welding. One structure that frames an entire area of the EV. Producers need less workers, less parts, less materials, less time.
Unfortunately, this sucks for EV owners. Any damage to the frame means you replace the expensive "one" piece or junk the EV entirely. This is why ICE manufacturers never opted for gigacasting. Even though this process has been available long before EV's hit the market. Besides the battery issues, gigacasting is also why insurance rates are higher for EV's. A simple 'fender bender' involving the frame doesn't lend itself to replacing a part at the impact site, but a replacement of a large segment of the EV. Replacing the gigacast frame may also involve dealing with the battery as well, even though it was not near the damaged part of the frame. I don't think Elon thought this through, and now other manufacturers are following him down this rathole.
Exactly.
You are absolutely right.
I remember some years ago how the cars produced in some parts of the world were cheaper than those made in Europe: one reduction in welds meant 10% reduction in costs.
These cars can be cheaper to make but are more expensive to the future owners. Time will shw that something will change to stop these higher maintaining costs
Reason number one people are backing up,,,,,and Toyota making the big $$$$$$
But if it makes the cars cheaper, surely it will improve sales?
Any vehicle hit hard enough to damage the frame is written off. Some small independent garages buy these at auctions or from wreckers and repair them. But the car will be plagued with repairs as the accident loosens and cracks many other parts, not visible, and do not fail right away. Never buy a rebuilt car, you will be sorry for it. Also it doesn't matter how new it is, the manufacturer's warranty will be null and void.
You can do weld repairs to the castings. ICE vehicles can use castings, it is just that Elon, pioneered with IDRA...and legacy automakers will eventually start to use castings in ice vehicles. If it is a rat hole..there will be no cars manufacturers left...It is sheer brilliance the castings.
The SU7 is getting a lot of flak in China.
"Xiaomi SU7 Brake Failure Leads to First National Crash, Widespread Data Falsification Revealed"
In the vid it is pointed out the rear of the car is not casting.
A lot of the noise is noise.
It gets a lot of flak but it gets way more praise. I think it's just the result of being in the front and center of lots of media attention.
If you can't afford to buy, don't smear, go for tata motors product instead
I want to see it at the Nurburgring,
If it's the same guy you are referring to, the breaks failed because the driver ignored the brake pad warning lights after performing 3 high speed laps on the Shanghai racing circuit. The SU7 max has 664 horse power (nearly as much as F1 car), so you can imagine the amount of force he was putting on the brakes.
I believe this car has had a lot of problems in China after one or two days. The seats in the car are breaking apart, the paint is falling off, weird noises, and some of even caught on fire.
I will bet anything they're cutting corners. Just like with phones, they'll buy the highest spec parts and equipment and put very little thought into the actual design beyond how to make it cheap
Read on the comments some misconceptions regarding gigacastings and repairability. The rationale is that if an impact is so severe to damage the casting the vehicle will be totaled anyway so, not really issues using large casting. Not sure if this assumption has been proven in reality, but at least the idea sounds quite reasonable.
Title is misleading as quite clearly they take more than 76 seconds to build a car. The 76 seconds is the time between each car coming off the production line and that is nothing special as other car factories do the same. What would be more interesting is the time from the first process to when the car drives off the end of the line. The Giga casting should reduce that down considerably.
Assume the factory is a black box. Takes some time to prime and after that it pops out a car every 76 seconds. The metric that counts is how much it costs to build that car.
Yes, from zero the first car may take 4 hours but once the line is on it puts them out at 70 odd seconds. Pretty good.
It's not really misleading. I think we know that he was talking about the rate of production and not literally building a whole car from start to finish in a minute. The rate of production for Tesla is every 40 seconds in Shanghai. th-cam.com/video/XlHM80vS198/w-d-xo.html
Phillip.
Good video.
Taking the example of (human vs. machine) quality inspection .. humans might be good at one-off or short run tasks - but human persistence and attentiveness degrades with repetition. That's for machines.
ps: with the increasing production automation - this will allow developing flexible production .. how long until Xiamomi offers customers a custom design option? Design your own car?
The title must be "Xiaomi builds a Su7 every 76 sec", because what u are claiming is totally nonesense
Nope. You shove a bunch of tech stuff in the mouth of the gigapress, press the big green button, then run around to the rear - it sh#ts out a brand new EV in 76 seconds.
Nope. Not even that - Xiaomi says that "once they ramped up, they will". It's a same statement as when Tesla says they "will make 20 million cars annually". He merely talks about the production line capacity, and Viking spun it so that it looks like they build one car in 76 seconds, from start to finish.
It’s the Viking…stupid, inaccurate clickbait titles
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@@Alarix246 yeah i meant the same thing as u
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Xpeng uses 12 Ton presses on the X9 ...that is 3 Tons higher than Xiami and Tesla. That is a huge leap not like from 7 to 8 or 8 to 9 tons.
Many of the Tesla model Y run rates are 45 seconds and a bit below. So this is a very good rate not a game changer though.
That's a good looking car too.
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Ford produces an F-150 every 53 seconds. You don´t understand how production time is measured. If you double the number of assembly lines in the same facility you double the output without any real improvement on the production process. Using Ford example, that wil be a vehicle every 26.5 seconds. You should better educate yourself.
They are not producing these themselves but being done by BAIC under contract! So they did not overnight build factories and processes. Again 76 seconds is not amazing compared to other manufacturers especially Tesla.
With that speed, Xiaomi should be able to build all 90,000 cars in ~80 days. Let's call it 3 months and let's add another 3 months for additional assembly, painting, interior furnishing, registration and road permit. Then let's see if Xiaomi can deliver.
Gosh . That'd be really safe !
Haitian is a Chinese machinery specialized with plastic injection. They don't have experience with AL casting big machine as 9100tons clamping force. it is amazing how they quickly copy any tech
Are they not seen as a telecommunications company first? Then why try to invent the wheel
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Sam, I am not happy about the 76 second FUD. There is a very real difference between building a car in 76 seconds and producing a car every 76 seconds. Those are not the same conversation, now. Right?
I don’t know why but- Trevor Milton - comes to mind while listening to this!
Wait till you see NIO and their model Y killer coming out in a couple months
it's not scary, it's exciting.
After seeing Xiaomi copying the best parts from their competitors on smartphones at fantastic prices, i can guarantee they are the only ones that might hard-compete with tesla.
All their products are so well thought, not only smartphones. I have a AirPurifier, a Gaming Monitor, a smartphone .. they are all premium quality and never let me down so far.
This comes from an EU citizen, who is impressed by Xiaomi as a company. They are like the APPLE of everything.
All Chinese car companies will demolish Tesla without Tariff.
the BIG autos got BIG challenges to compete with these newcomers.
What metal is the casting made from ?
It's a proprietary Aluminum alloy created by Tesla. Quite good, from what I've seen.
I have seen a show where ford f100 rolls off every 58 seconds
Or 60 per hour or 1440 per 24h day or 432k in a 300 workday year.
Nothing impressive, but for the math illiterate vinkings. 😂
It costs 10k usd to replace a bumper, no joke.
76 seconds for the entire vehicle? That's what your Tagline suggests, mate.
One drops off the line every 76 seconds. This says nothing about how long it stayed on the line or how long it took to produce and deliver all components.
You cannot repair any bodywork if the car is involved in a minor accident. Its a buy and throw away product. Very expensive maintenance proposition. Battery replacement is another !😮😮
amazed that China can now sculpt tofu into car shapes 😂
Like to see a comparison of crash tests between Xiaomi and Tesla.
So in a car with a ridged front part and a ridged back part, what’s the role of the middle section.
The one with the passengers in!!
I wonder how the extra die-casing holds up under USA crash testing?
Depends on who designed the die for the casting. Tesla's 'hold up' aka crumple just fine.
Depending on what’s the intention if the speaker the are either ridged or crumbling.
Unfortunately physics is clear on this aspect.
@@fromgermany271 I do recall from somewhere that crumbling is a better description of how hey absorb the energy.
Tesla will face brutal competition. Longevity and warranty = service will be key in the US.
Building a car in this time is nice, but selling will be a lot harder.
.......Xiaomi, no doubt, purchased a Sandy Munro (or similar company) reverse engineering, teardown, benchmarking & costing report of the many Teslas they have bench marked, I do not believe that Xiaomi are the so called geniuses you make them out to be.
What is amazing is the speed at which they can copy Tesla's manufacturing processes.
What is so incredible about:
1. 76 second car roll out rate (33 seconds slower than Tesla).
2. Double glazing, that is not new in cars (circa 1934 laminated glass).
3. Tesla suffered by over automation. Remember?
4. How do you know this car is incredible? Have you looked at it , driven it.
5. One upped Tesla? How do you know please? 17% lighter, 2 dB quieter than what please?
6. Everything you have said about Xiaomi ...Tesla has or is doing it.
7. Xiaomi is fantastic according to whom?...you are looking at promo videos FFS.
8. Tesla already has either 2 or 3 off, 9000 tonne clamping force, Giga presses since 2022.
9. Yes you can do "weld repairs" to Tesla castings.
10. Any car/truck can do 2 million miles if you maintain, repair & replace!
11. Irv Gordon, Guinness World Record Holder Who Put 3.2 Million Miles on His Volvo P1800..(Dinosaur juice powered).
12.. Your research is rather poor, and you are parroting off promotional info, and hats off to you "you admit it" sir!
13...This raft of factual comments will get deleted very quickly.
Mega casting is around 1000x smaller then a giga casting
And the era of disposable (non-repairable) cars is upon us.
Personally , I don't like the possible high cost of repairing, say how are you to do panel beating when you can't change the body parts?
It’s going to produce a whole new world of repairs, maybe it will be a complete chassis replacement like the old English mini which had a sub frame. Main thing is panel beaters will stay in business for the foreseeable future !
unibody casting is for the internal structure, and typically dont include shock absorption components like the front bars, much less surface elements like panels.
First of all, you can just relax and be grateful that you bought a car that is much safer for you and your loved ones in the event of a crash, and not worry about the future repair scenario
I don't know, Tex. How do you replace the wheels on this new-fangled Conestoga Wagon, if you don't have enough lumber? You might be a few years out of date...
isnt this the one that blew up and killed its passengers when it lightly rear ended a truck? or the one that spontaneously combusts? hell no, not touching this crap.
Xiaomi builds the car that Apple ditched
How about repair costs after a crash?
I doubt that this casting can be straightened or to put it another way: any accident may TOTAL the vehicle, which means insurance costs will be ASTRONOMICAL!!
Count me OUT!
Good luck with that SU7, if the stability control software doesn’t kill you the fragile suspension system will!
Have you driven one, ive seen videos of tesla cars burning, so in the same line of thought, youll die from battery burning? Stop sourgraping and just take it up the arse..
the world have underestimated China for too long
No, it’s that China is moving up way too fast for most people in the world to update their perception about China.
I have also watched a program from
China that talks about Xiaomi using aluminum wiring in lieu of copper. Not good. There is a lot of hype with some of these manufacturers but some of them are making dangerous engineering choices.
Is this the reason there are rumors that the SU7 sometimes goes out of control and the wheels fall off?
For a new car release company, I rather go with Zeekr 007 ,Byd Han or Geely Galaxy E8 sporty sedan.. EV... BETTER components in my view.