Friedman Plex vs Bogner Helios 50

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
  • Friedman Plex vs Bogner Helios 50. Some noodling, some tech explanations towards the end. Forgot to mention that the first mode is not affected by the three band eq, just bright switch and the two power amp eqs ( presence, deep).
    0:00 Helios
    0:13 Plex
    0:30 Helios
    0:42 Plex
    1:05 Helios
    1:30 Plex
    1:58 Helios
    2:11 Plex
    2:24 Helios
    2:39 Plex
    2:57 Helios
    3:20 Plex
    3:35 Helios
    3:52 Plex
    4:15 Helios
    4:30 Plex
    4:44 Helios
    5:07 Plex
    5:20 Helios
    5:32 inside the Helios
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  • @bigdavedave9865
    @bigdavedave9865 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great vid and tones 👌 they sound a lot closer than I was expecting. You’ve saved me some cash! I have a 50w Helios and would be happy with a freidman too

  • @phillamoore157
    @phillamoore157 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great comparison. One sounded noticeably better than the other… I just have no idea which amp you were playing at the time.

  • @jasonsapp792
    @jasonsapp792 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice comparison.... The Friedman amps all seem to have that Mid forward sound....i can get used to it but when you switch back to the Bogner it sounds more rounded, to my ears more pleasing... appreciate the video

  • @LoBo-ru7xm
    @LoBo-ru7xm 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jailbreak and The Boys r back in town!
    A lot of Thin Lizzy vibe ❤

  • @addictedtogear
    @addictedtogear 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can you do a comparison of the Plex and the Marshall SV20H?

  • @fritzhieke7209
    @fritzhieke7209 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Always show which amp you are playing. Your finger pointing is far too imprecise. It's hard to see through. Thanks for the comparison anyway. Great video. kind regards

    • @nestorcano4354
      @nestorcano4354 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Agree, put text on the screen or something!

    • @duese888
      @duese888  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@nestorcano4354 added chapters (guys, just use a bigger screen and start looking from the beginning :-) )

  • @v2saatana
    @v2saatana 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Helios FTW

  • @DrDannyMannGuitar
    @DrDannyMannGuitar 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This made me appreciate my Helios a little more! Thanks for all the comparison videos with the PLEX. What’s your take on it at this point - does it have a place with all your other awesome M-style amps?

    • @duese888
      @duese888  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks. Sure, will stay. Sounds nice, looks cool, nice PCB, keeps its value

  • @AndyK.23
    @AndyK.23 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Helios - Green, Plex - red for those not seeing the chapters

  • @mrnorbotron3308
    @mrnorbotron3308 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you so much for those Plex compairsions!

    • @duese888
      @duese888  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pleasure

  • @ninnyhammer77
    @ninnyhammer77 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very nice. Is this a mic'ed cab or a IR?

    • @duese888
      @duese888  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mic‘ed old V30 in an isolation cab

  • @tommiknocker9312
    @tommiknocker9312 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice comparisons! Both sound great and pretty similar. What's your favorite up to now?

    • @duese888
      @duese888  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks. I love the Helios for the 70s/80s modes. Plex-wise not sure yet, will convert my JMP into one and then decide 😊

  • @bradolsen9935
    @bradolsen9935 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bogner seems to have more hair. could be an EQ thing

  • @void_snw
    @void_snw 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The bogner has some crazy sag goin on. Similar to turning Bias X and Sag in the helix modelling software waaay up. Cool stuff.

  • @KelsterVonShredster
    @KelsterVonShredster 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds amazing.....

  • @kentjackson3830
    @kentjackson3830 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watched a few of your vids now comparing the Plex to other amps. First of all, thanks. Second I feel like maybe you dialed in a tone on the Bogner first and then dialed the Plex to match as well as you could, correct? The reason I think this because while they both sound I think the flex sounded better in the other vids where you compared it to the small box and the 20 watt Marshall. Maybe just my ears?

    • @duese888
      @duese888  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good ears! You are correct. Helios at volume noon is really loud, has higher volts and no three band eq, but just the bright switch and the poweramp eq ( presence, deep).

  • @popsarocker
    @popsarocker 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Preferring the extra brightness of the Friedman in this case personally. What's the switch you're using?

    • @duese888
      @duese888  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      www.thomann.de/de/tube_amp_manufactur_amp_switch_4_2_v2.htm?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADuDMCXyPtFUIoN9TmUcIxMBUqZol&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn_PE1OaQhwMVqJGDBx1JCBTGEAQYASABEgJuXvD_BwE

  • @turnerm33
    @turnerm33 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Both sound lovely lizzy ❤

  • @lousekoya1803
    @lousekoya1803 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you !

  • @dominik4614
    @dominik4614 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was able to play a Helios here at No1 Hamburg about three weeks ago and now I have GAS. For me, 80s Mode sounded so perfect. The bass control was fully on, unfortunately I don't know how deep and presence were set... but the low mids were great and the Marshall scratch /bite was there without being scratchy and still assertive...
    cheers
    Dominik

    • @dominik4614
      @dominik4614 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was an eclipse, but the eclipse mode had way too much gain

    • @duese888
      @duese888  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I love that mode. Instant Sykes.

  • @steveweilhart2359
    @steveweilhart2359 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    nice amp collection keep working on your video making skills & playing for good video content!

  • @rikshredder
    @rikshredder 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Which is PLEX and which is Helios?

    • @duese888
      @duese888  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Starting with Helios.

    • @rikshredder
      @rikshredder 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@duese888 Thank you.

  • @MadMax_1984
    @MadMax_1984 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Plex sounding like a winner - Zep tones win for my ears