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Do you think you would survive a nuclear attack?
Would I want to?
I hope not
I'm far enough from NOVA and The Norfolk Shipyard to not be affected by the blasts, got the Appalachians as a shield from anything coming from the Midwest/West. I'd survive, it wouldn't be easy, though.
Nope. Don't have a bunker and preparedness.
But I'm not within the Target list.
I live in germany so not really :/
"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play"
Too late for that now. The die has already been cast.
Kind of like in real life.
Hello Joshua
“…nature will begin again, with the bees, probably…”
-Dr. Stephen Falken
Not playing is not a move. And not playing after the adversary has made his move is the worst for your health.
Guy you placed in Chicago died before Russia even launched ! Scarily accurate simulator.
Died from a heart attack finding out about a Nuclear War after eating a Pan Pizza, a Sausage, and a 6 pack of Busch.
@@robertsteinbach7325 Could of been worse, could of ordered a Salad then got Nuked, how pissed would of he of been then ?
Probably for caught in a drive by in real life
@@robertsteinbach7325 best last meal
@@robertsteinbach7325 Depends if he was eating in a back alley, he'd probably get shot before the heart attack.
That 1985 scenario was chilling, especially when Europe was nuking itself. Something about dropping a nuke on your close neighbor is confounding in a terrifying sort of way.
It's like lighting your own house on fire to kill an intruder.
A bunch of liberals freaking out over nonsense.
Do you guys realize why Europe is nuking itself? Because the countries that are there are Eastern Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary that was being nuked of the "reds" or Warsaw Pact to be exact.
Also the scenario counts *EVERY* as value not just silos.
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Another thing to keep in mind, tall buildings like skyscrapers actually limit the blast and mitigate thermal radiation (but not other forms of radiation). However, the real concern with nuclear explosions, radioactive fallout aside, are the firestorms that crop up: buildings burst into flames more often than explode, so sheltering in a building close to the blast will probably save you from thermal damage but will also probably cook you alive in a conflagration.
It's a nice thought.
@@thejoin4687 that's according to the data we have
If it gives you any consolation, modern air-burst warheads release far less ionizing radiation than older ground burst warheads. It’s still going to incinerate everything within 5 km though. And that’s just the fireball.
I think the blast would topple a skyscraper.
If not, the heat would melt the structural columns and it will topple.
There is no radioactive fallout from Airbursts
This video made me think: Why must the entire nation (civilians) suffer based on how good or bad ONE PERSON (presidents, Prime Ministers and those types) speaks to another? Why don't they just duke it out on their own? I subscribe to a political Battle Royale, where if politicians are arguing so bad that war/conflict will happen, they get put on a remote island, filled with weapons, and last person(s) standing win.
Cos politicians think they are worth millions of lives
I mean, at that point, you'll have people who rule based not on principle or policy, but on sheer strength. Everyone will elect the most capable combatant as opposed to the most capable leader.
Russia would get disqualified for cheating
@@Gannoh Not all, but a good majority of great leaders in history were exceptional combatants and strategists.
So it may not be THAT bad.
Because people usually support these types of actions. People for example support giving tanks to Ukraine which is why a few politicians decided to do so. When people stopped supporting for example the Vietnam War, politicians decided to retreat.
Seeing all those individual missiles in the air really puts things in perspective
If you keep them in perspective long enough to get over the initial scare, you can start figuring out coping strategies.
if those missiles was money donations for the people....
Warheads, most ICBM's carry MIRV's.
We surely have more than what we’re shown
@@jonygmx4266 would you rather have people get money? or have nuclear missiles to protect your country
I have a terrible idea: Instead of a real nuclear war, the leaders of the conflict parties should each get a copy of that simulation and fight one another online using their virtual nukes. So they would have something to do for their ego and the rest of the world could applaud the winner, maybe give him some money or a new yacht and continue living.
they should all just sort it out in pubg
edit your comment, remove "terrible" and put "safe" or "good", i really like your idea, there is no need to destroy your planet in real life if you have a very Realistically detailed game about Nuclear Wars
This is almost the same plot as LBX wars anime
Put every world leader into a match of tf2. Whoever wins wins the demands put forth in the war.
Am guessing that is what they did in a way, that is why it never materialized
My maternal great grandfather was a Metallurgist of Nuclear Fuel and worked at Lawrence Livermore national laboratory on nuclear warheads. He told my mom that it was the best and the worst job. He knew that it was a matter of security and safety for the USA, but at the same time, it was a monster of destruction and he hated the fact that something so destructive was so necessary.
My maternal great grandfather worked as an electrical engineer under Dr. Lawrence. They might've known each other. He told a story about how there were rumors floating around the lab that the detonation of the first hydrogen bomb could cause a world ending chain reaction in the atmosphere, so he took his wife out on a "last night together" picnic on the beach, just in case.
My stepdad's father was also a high ranking official in the navy and witnessed the testing. I was told it changed him.
Small world...
17:41 as a German I can see now why my parent's generation was so scared of nuclear war. Dear God. It's so macabre that we would've been hit with the most nuclear weapons by far in all of Europe without even owning one missile ourselves. Goes to show how we would've been nothing more than a Battlefield or a weapons testing ground for the two most powerful super powers.
And you are at it again, thanks to the dumbest leadership in recent european history. and the green party is the most warmongering, of all. be scared dude. Germany is Kaput even without nukes.
Entirely avoidable concept altogether already in 1939.. However Germans had other gran designs,
Ever since Poles were living with the specter of Nuclear annihilation as it was targeted by Both sides, but primarily by the West.
Crazy times.
Thank you
Same here, my family that lived in Berlin during WWII had some scary experiences when the city was bombed, hard to believe scarier things were possible in their life time. Nukes should never be used against other humans, all warfare is avoidable and evil.
We a far closer now than our parents ever were during the most dangerous moments of the cold war. Many analysts believe the die has already been cast.
Danger still looming large over Europe:
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Russias retaliation started way too late. Through satelites etc the US launches would get detected immediately which means counter attack gets started right away.
I’m assuming it was done that way to showcase both attack plans
how can you counter nuclear?
@@thenotorious844 You can’t, it’s just retaliation
I would also assume the US and Canada would have planes in the air asap to jam, destroy, or intercept any potential bombers and icbm's, not let them launch in US and Canadian airspace with no problem.
No, that is accurate. The soviet land system does indeed have a longer response time, because it launches a signalling missile that activates the silos into retaliation, adding a big layer of time between detection and action
Some people cried, some laughed, Most were silent.. -Oppenheimer
Reminds me of the 1983 movie WarGames.
Yeah I'm old.
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@@squintylizard hehe Good movie.
Needs a mod that adds the DEFCON music.
Still one of the best fitting soundtracks (if not THE best) in my opinion.
Scary and amazing! Back in the 1960s the Russians had something like 30,000 nukes and America perhaps 25,000. We figured it was only a matter of time until WW3 turned the whole planet into a lifeless ball of obsidian. Fortunately we've managed to avoid that but it's very interesting to see the various ways it plays out in simulation.
We´re not in the clear yet, Russia is threatening nuclear annihilation yet again
All the super nukes were decommissioned and dismantled. There were insanely large Nukes.
@@fcgdaeh I really hate that my Country upset the World power dynamics by unwittingly giving Nukes to India and Pakistan.
@@Len_M. They were decommissioned because they weren't needed. Older ICBMs had awful accuracy with your average American/Soviet ICBM having a CEP of 2 miles which meant they required larger warheads with a bigger yield to guarantee a hit. Nowadays we have ICBMs with CEP of around 100-200 meters which means warheads with below the megaton range are good enough to guarantee a hit while also having huge destruction levels. The largest nuclear device still in active service would be the warhead on the Dongfeng 5 Chinese ICBM which has a yield of 5 megatons. The next "closest" known (We don't know what Russian nuclear warhead yields are as they keep it a state secret) nuclear weapon would be the American B83 1.2 megaton bomb. The only actual super nuke that existed was the Tsar Bomba which was designed as a political tool rather than an actual weapon, though the Soviets and Russians did have a singular 25 megaton warhead for the R-36 ICBM that was active til 2006.
@@popaog6786 Indeed and let’s not forget how many Nukes that were accidentally dropped on the US and Canada. It’s a miracle that there wasn’t a nuclear incident. So it is good almost everything was dismantled and the material was used elsewhere.
Mind the differences between air and ground burst.
Airburst: Detonates above ground creating massive damage but less fallout.
Groundburst: Detonates underground (aimed at destroying silos, etc) less radial damage but massive fallout.
You'd think they spread them better instead of hitting some cities with like 80 nukes.
But I also thought in a mad scenario the retaliatory strike would launch before being even struck to get the full Force out.
They are accounting for our anti air systems. Not all of them will get through and some of the bombs may have mechanical failures etc so they are just making sure the target is dead dead.
Regular sized nuclear warheads won't destroy whole cities on their own, that's why so many are directed to seemingly the same place
Me too, but I think it accounts for maybe a delayed response because those in the bases can't believe it's real and not a false alarm, until the reports start coming jn
They are also accounting for the fact that some of the nukes will be shot down by our anti ballistic missile defenses so the reason they'll hit a big city with dozens of warheads is to assure it's complete destruction even if we down the majority of incoming enemy missiles.
@@busimagen but you also dont need to turn it to glass to the last road of the outskirts to destroy a city.
Does this game have the Chinese spy ballon currently flying over Montana?
xD
And now a UFO flying over Canada. Ah, also China reported an unidentified object in its air space.
Its a weather balloon
@@AverageDayInside Is that why the Chinese were threatening retaliation? Because it was a weather balloon?
No but there are plenty of nukes dropping in china
If you're interested, theres a really good "gam-ey" version of this called Defcon. And excellent strategic game, although very sobering.
Thankfully the game still has a small cult following. I play every now and then. Great game!
There's an android version of defcon called first strike, also the defcon deterrence mod is pretty crazy, adds mirvs and such
Another similar game called ICBM.
@@IsItZoltan That's a completely different game lol. First strike is on steam too.
I love how excited you get and the language you use. Nuclear war, so fun!
Can you add in factors like supplementing potassium iodide to negate radiation? That would be awesome if you could even control what the person is consuming
These only protect you from Thyroid cancer, that’s all, not radiation
Potassium iodide only works against iodine. For the first few days, stuff like Np-239 would be way worse than iodine.
@@placeholdername0000Its also worthless against gamma rays and neutron radiation.....although both are usually most severe near ground zero.
Imagine if there were more visual simulations, and a way to really see the destruction and the aftermath, and being able to alter the landscape with enough explosions, and buildings being destroyed. That would make this really addictive.
If even one country drops a nuke, they will all drop a nuke. I don't think people realize that. And if they do, they probably have themselves convinced that it won't happen to the place they live or they will somehow be unaffected. If nuclear war happens, the only lucky people will be the ones that are immediately vaporized. It's cool to see educational tools like this that show you the consequences.
Watch the movie "Threads" for a horrifying brutal visual representation of what would happen
I hope you were thinking "educative"...
As someone who lives in the a small town, I was very surprised to see us get a direct hit from the 85 soviet strike plan. RIP
a direct hit is the best you can get. its over in a blink of an eye. im 30 Km away from the nearest target. so i may survive but dont want to life anymore in a world like that.
@@000jimbojones000 I mean you might survive in a nuclear silo, if you really want to live. As long as you have enough food and water...
@@korana6308 might be, but i dont want to live in a nuclear wasteland or underground for years. Its just not for me. If time comes it comes.
@@000jimbojones000 I may not survive the blast, radioactivity, lawlessness or hell on earth if it happens but I'll sure do my best to try. I've never understood people like you. No matter what happens or how bad things get you should never give up until your last dying breath.
@@000jimbojones000 don't be a woman jimbo, have the will to continue your species don't just puss out man
Greetings from Australia.
No house builds with basements in my country.
Many years ago I used to think those preppers were crazy.
Makes me want to build a bug out in my backyard.
Australia isn't currently on anybodies nuclear wish list as we don't have any nukes and we have a tiny army and we don't live anywhere near a nuclear power so we wouldn't get radiation blowing on us
@@TylerMarkRichardson China
@@justanamericandoggo6725 why would China nuke us in the case of nuclear war instead of using it on a more important target
Oh, hey 80's nightmares. I see you're back after such a long time.
you dont need a simulator, you can enjoy it live in 2-3 years
I hope so. The wasteland is gonna be 😎
fallout players were training for this moment for so long
I bought this on Steam and your video has helped me to understand how to use this software. Thankyou.
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The fallout around the missile silos is bound to be very high because they have to be ground detonations, thus lanuching especially lot of dirt and dust into the atmosphere.
Yes North Dakota is not a good place to be in any of these scenarios. Ground detonations don't affect nuclear winter much, they don't make much soot, but they absolutely do create fallout.
@@petersmythe6462 Nuclear winter is a myth.
@Skrittles true... but in order to get to the fortified nuclear silos ground detonation is the way to go. An airblast does little to crack a missile silo
@Skrittles all counter weapons strikes will be ground bursts as will many other strikes against military targets. Half the warheads could be ground burst which means fallout for everyone.
You guys aren't taking into account the numerous cobalt devices on both sides. Google cobalt bomb. These are area denial weapons that will be used on all agricultural areas of both sides ( the entire Midwest). They are designed to produce excessive amounts of long lasting radiation.
Truly the stuff of nightmares.
I was going to say "Oh, my city is fine", but then it took a direct hit from about 5 nukes in the second wave. :(
One thing they forgot , The Red October - Belgerod Submarine 2 million kilotons in torpedo form , the west and east coast's of the U.S. and London are washed away , and no mention of hyper- sonic missile's, not a very realistic simulator .
This was recommended to me randomly and then I heard the intro of the guy saying “devildoggamer” and instantly remembered I used to watch this guy on my mom’s laptop when I was a kid. I’m 21 now lol.
weird youtube algorithm pushed this to me in 17 seconds, I havent seen you upload for ages man lol
You also have to factor in the heights of detonation. That can determine the immediate destruction and the fallout radius. You also have the sea borne tsunamis of radioactive water that will blanket the coasts
Dude, I swear TH-cam's recommendation is something else...
"To decimate is to remove or kill off 10% of something. To annihilate is to utterly destroy something."
for me that way to spooky to watch after being born in the 60's. the threat back in the cold war days was to me a very frightening time
It's becoming more frightening again the newer generations aren't as aware of the danger as your generation was
We've got 2 years tops...
It's happening now 100%.
Oppenheimer knew this day was inevitable.
@@catocall7323 some of us are. I was born in 92 to parents born in 52 and 53 respectively. Did hit me far harder when i was in my late 20s just how insane the power of even a 200kt nuke would be.
@@nunyabusiness9013 no. Lol
Since the 60s, 4 more nations have nukes: India, Pakistan, North Korea, and Israel - though they play the whole "we can neither confirm or deny this" card on that.
This just further affirmed my desire to build an underground fallout bunker 😅
@@CraigScottFrost Surviving the first day of nuclear fallout DRAMATICALLY increases your surival odds, not being underground or any shelter is pretty much a guaranteed death from radiation poisoning if your close enough the blast. Surviving the first week and month pretty much guerentees that youve survived the most lethal part of a nuclear bomb goes off, and if theres no ash outside and you have somewhat protective gear it should be safe to leave and find a better place. I can assure you, having a basement or survival bunker would be beneficial no matter how long you stay there.
@@gamertardguardian1299 You wouldn't survive anyway. Global crop failures will kill 10x more people due to starvation. You're kidding yourself if you think you can weather this senario.
@@samuelkrakow859 Society would collapse anyways, not like you'd get much from farms if you did survived. Its pretty unlikely that everyone would just die, even if civilian targets were striked aswell as tactical targets, there would be billions of humans in the world left. Millions of people on every continent would likely survive the first month even if they weren't in a fallout shelter or basement. The following months and years would be tough with nuclear winters and fallout spreading through the atmosphere, but it would be people like you that gave up that didn't make it. Most definitely survivable, maybe the odds are you dont, but it still is. Humans and most flora and fauna would survive as well even if you didn't count those in the oceans. Besides, food shortages are only a part of the battle, and it seems like around 5 years after a war would the soil become mostly uncontaminated for crop growth. Yes a nuclear war is really bad and would lead to global human collapse and mass deaths like we have never seen in recorded history, but is unlikely it would be our and mother natures end.
@@gamertardguardian1299 I think he meant you can't reach the bunker before the detonation , unless you live nearby the bunker and never have to travel for work and other daily chores.
An ICBM can usually hit the target in less than thirty minutes , a hypersonic missile in fifteen minutes.
@@morbid747 Its a general rule that you have 10 minutes after the initial blast (if you weren't vaporized or to far away) to get to a safe place before a lethal amount of radioactive particles start to fall on you. With a warning, like you said would be an extra 10 minutes at least. And this is assuming your in the outskirts of the blast, not 50 miles away which if you were then you could likely flee to a better area if you wanted to. But yes that would be useless in that case if you were to far away from a safe place. But most people spend most of their day at home so it would be beneficial i think especially if the bombs dropped when you are at home or near some kind of underground shelter. I know it might be far fetched for some people, especially those who have a job centered around traveling, but for the average joe who works 9-5 and come home for the rest of the day I think a basement or some kind of shelter would be a good investment IF you think there could be a nuclear war involving your country in the future
"Were not going to make it, are we.....People I mean"
~John Connor
"Nuclear war is pretty easy to survive." Yea, okay, hopefully I'll be able to take your word for it.
In other words, it is in every nuclear nation's best interest to "launch on warning" to avoid having its nukes disabled and no longer be a player in the game.
and the decision making window for russia is like 90 seconds because how close nato is.
@@JamesSmith-ix5jd That's pretty much how small the decision making window potentially is for every nuclear power.
And you just described the hair trigger problem, there is not enough time between detection and strike for people to figure out if a warning is good or an error, fortunately it turns out humans will default to not pressing the button given the chance.
Multiple times during the cold war controllers received false alarms and chose not to launch their own.
This is the kind of “game” they should open source, or at least parts of it. It is a great start but the more scientifically minded will want to know how radiation exposure is being calculated, which weapon assemblies are being used, detonation altitude and EMP effects, missile defense sites, etc.
@survivalost1982 For the calculations try Carl Miller's model for fallout prediction. Tabulated data can be found in books. I have even circular slide rules from the times of Cold War. Maybe you would be interested in this website: glasstone.blogspot.com It's a pity it's a bit chaotic.
4:40 Your calmness while deciding where to drope the nuke is chilling
wow, the most scary part of this was the waves of warheads, if it was just one big exchange and you survived that you might believe you have a chance to survive it all. But then a 30 mins later the next wave comes in and then another and another.... youd never know when it was over.
There's that infamous story of the man who survived both Nagasaki and Hiroshima getting nuked
@@lv.99mastermind45 They were just fire crackers compared to what we have today. If a modern day 3.8 or 5.5MT bomb was dropped on hiroshima or nagasaki it would have been a very different story.
@@robinhood5627Just a note, don't forget that the effects radii are not directly proportional to weapon yield. Increasing the yield 100-times means cbrt(100)=4.6times increase in blast effect radius and sqrt(100)=10times increase in thermal effects radius.
Probably quicker than waiting on Bethesda
Everyone in the Southern hemisphere is watching the fireworks and chilling with our kangaroos and kiwis
Everyone in the southern hemisphere is suffering after the complete collapse of the world economy.
@@Galactipod I think we'll be OK without the yanks, you're not the center of the world
@@snigie1 so true
@@snigie1 Every major country would be nuked, not just the US. And even if the US were the only country to be nuked, it's undeniably extremely powerful politically, economically, and militarily.
@@Galactipod lucky nz isn't a major country, we'll just be riding our Kiwis on night and wonder what the fireworks on the horizon are
Hey checking in after who knows how many years. Didn't know you were still around. I started watching from the beginning of your DayZ series when you started by them docks
An interesting game. I'd wonder how well they simulated weather modeling. Also,
Roentgen: "r-ONT-gun"
Dumb, yes, but that's how it's pronounced.
My philosophy on Nuclear War is “I can’t do anything about it and would likely die in hours so don’t really need to worry about it.”
Not much I can do about it so why worry. It would just kill me anyways.
Dude, you can do a lot of things, like protest, join the peace movement and demand disarmament , and nuclear regulations. its your and our problem, we keep saying boomers where the worst, but they did mobilize and did the greatest march in history both in the us and Europe, causing political pressure so the politicians did the nuclear treaties that America just scraped, we millennials and zoomers are indeed the worst. we just twitt and believe that is activism.
Actually this makes me think it's a LOT more survivable than most people think. An EBS warning would give a few minutes and that's enough time to shelter. Then a few days for the immediate fallout to subside. It's the weeks and months after that would be the most horrible, and that's where preparation makes all the difference.
@@carlosgarzon8900 What about Generation X, ? Everyone forgets generation X.
@@Victorseafog Gen x is so meh no one remembers them.
@@violetzitola8385 well yeah, but millions still will die man, COME ON!
This game is now on my wishlist! Crazy! Love your videos! I am german, so I am dead. :D I always said: "If they launch nuclear weapons, I wish it lands on my head." Seriously. There is no scenario, where you are happy to be alive anyway.
True, the bombs are the least of out concerns, of course you would wish to die, to survive the main attacks, you would be facing your worst nightmares. Radiation fallout, shelter, medical care, medication, food, warmth, water. And that's just fending for yourself, let alone loved ones who have survived and are injured.
Thank god they dropped the bombs on japan, otherwise there would be nothing to gage these weapons and the aftermath on. It'll happen one day for sure.
My luck is everyone I know and love would die instantly and I'd be left alive to die alone from radiation poisoning.
Everyone should own a quick way out if ever need be ...
The southern half of South America will be untouched in a global nuclear exchange. I'll be sitting on a beach sipping a tropical drink when this goes down.
@@nunyabusiness9013 I'll be there with a couple of blondes...i'll wave you over buddy!.
Fallout 4 real life
Norway here, we sendt humanitarian aid to murmansk since 2003 until feb.2022. Murmansk is where the north fleet command of NewSoviet is located.
Its a 3 world country, with drunk iliterates handling a UNmaintained nuclear arsenal..
Wow I watched your channel several years ago when I was younger and I just stumbled on this out of nowhere. I’m re subscribing. TH-cam unsubbed me and I totally forgot this channel existed
We need a simulation that takes into account the current weather.
Longtime Beta tester here, you can change the day and it uses the weather from that day (in the past, I.E. wind direction and how fast its blowing) to change the direction of the fallout.
I saw that Man in the High Castle scenario in your mods. I’d love to see that play out on this as well. Actually surprised how “low” initial numbers are compared to what I believed they would be. Seems most would die in the fallout and the ice age that’s brought on by nuclear winter 🥶
I think most deaths would come from the destruction of infrastructure. Food and clean water would be very scarce.
@@gobblox38
Bingo. You can survive a single bomb, even multiple nukes (like that one guy who was in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki), but you can’t survive no food.
@@jesusofbullets no food, water, medical supplies, electricity, etc.
Most would die from lack of medicine, medical care, clean water, access to food, civil unrest, etc.
Threads is a good movie
"Greetings Professor Falken. Would you like to play a game of chess?"
I'm ex British military 22 years service, and we refered to this as 'MAD' 'Mutual assured destruction'
Nobody wins!
Im glad Ft Rucker was not left out, at least now I know ill only have to worry about the war for about 15 mins.
Fallout from a blast in the missile silo areas would be worse because of a ground burst that would be used on hardened targets, it sucks up more debris in the fireball.
Watch the movie _Threads_ for a graphic representation of what a nuke war would realistically look like. Sobering is an understatement.
TUBI has it.
The Day After also. And Miracle Mile is a good representation of what would happen prior (social collapse).
Nowdays there's no time to panic, hypersonic tech and stuff like that would give you an approximate panic time of 5 to 15min before incineration
Threads is so realistic that it almost feels like a documentary spanning a whole generation.
The movie threads isn't as realistic as we though it was back when it was released. We used to think nuclear winter would pan out like that but we now know differently. Particles would disperse and settle much quicker than what was previously thought. Enough particles wouldn't be able to get high enough into the atmosphere to reach the stratosphere where it could stay for potentially years. The dangers of nuclear winter was overstated but it's not commonly discussed because maybe it's good that most people think it would be worse than it actually would be. Don't get me wrong, the aftermath of nuclear wars would still be horrible and could potentially cause society as we know it to collapse. Many more people would die after the blasts than during.
In the end I think it's better to overstate the risks than understate them and Threads is great and definetly worth a watch.
@@softan I'm glad you included that last sentence!
11:07 "terajoules of soot" had me rolling
"Do you think you'd survive a nuclear attack?"
Me: Mommmm, Do I have to?
The simulators and games are very good for training; diplomacy, and overcoming fear or denial. As mentioned environmental damage I.e. nuclear winter is toughest to survive. The use of WMD's against fault lines, or to cause a tsunami, are presently relevant, but not included in the simulation. It is especially relevant regarding conflicts on the Pacific plate.
The nuclear winter is just a theory. Never been tested. Well actually it has been tested. Since 1945, several thousands nuclear bombs have exploded through military testing. There has been absolutely no effect on the atmosphere's temperature and sun light transmission.
In a nuclear mushroom cloud, you have a ball of "fire " that dissipates within minutes and massive water condensation that quickly dissipates or falls down as rain. The dirt elevated from the earth is not that massive, and it goes down quickly. By comparison the massive volcano eruption in the Pacific last year, which lasted for days, released way more soot (orders of magnitude more) that the 10 000 nuclear bombs in the arsenals. And there has been no volcanic winter from it.
Dont get me wrong a nuclear conflict would be tragic. The deaths from the flash burns, the wind blast, and the radiation fall out (most isotopes remaining for about 48 hours) would be a catastrophe. And by targeting cities, i e the most viable and strategic parts of countries, the targeted countries would be brought back hundreds of years.
But those not touched by the burn, the blast, and the first 48 hours radiation (after 48 hours radiatiins would have mostly disappeared), will not live in a nuclear winter with no sun light. That is just bogus.
the thing is that depending on the jetstream ETC the fallout could realistically just go into canada and not over the US if the jetstream is further north than usual
i mean the jetstream did just recently collapse so i wouldnt count on that
Time to Move to South America
I approve of your choice of targets.
This game is so realistic I can hear a missile coming straight towards my loca-
Are u ok?
It would be cool to implement some things from universe sandbox to see what would happen to earth and would it even remain stable enough to let the people left survive.
we don't have nearly enough nuclear weapons to make any impact on a planatary scale. we can barely dent the biosphere. the planet is much more durable than our global civilization.
@@baburik I'm fairly sure a nuclear war would make more than just a dent in the biosphere but ok
@@seb_le1652 most of the biomass dwells in the oceans. in the last several thousand years we've driven all wildlife and most of the plants out of our cities and surroundings. so the immediate nuclear explosions would do relatively little damage to the biosphere. the nuclear fallout will do some poisoning, but it's fairly short lived compared to nuclear disasters (hiroshima is bustling city while chernobyl zone is virtually inhabited). there is also an issue with the ozone layer being damaged by the hi-energy blasts but since the most likely scenario is that nuclear strikes are going to be concentrated to 5-8 areas on the planet - it shouldn't be more than 10% loss of the ozone layer. and it actually regenerates when phytoplankton - the main ozone producer - in the ocean gets more solar energy, which it will with less ozone. funny enough, if the nuclear war leads to a economical and societal collapse - there's going to be less damage to the biosphere in the long term...
Interplanetary war scenarios would be interesting
@@russelljones3221 yea, though it would be pure speculation, since we don't even know that there are aliens out there, let alone what capabilities/behavior they have.
You would probably enjoy Defcon, if it's still available.
“Let’s go for the Midwest!”proceeds to drop no people in the Midwest lol.
Im watching this and thinking to myself "wow, we have come a long way since Wargames" lol.
The best move is not to play. Greetings Professor Faulkin.
"how dare you!!!! You have stolen my childhood".. Greta Thunberg
Fun Fact:The Nuclear war simulator is inspired By DEFCON
I didn’t realize that this was DDG when I clicked on this video, and that intro just sent me back a few years, holy shit
Nuclear war sim? Looks more like a Thanksgiving with my in-laws.
The bomb is similar to a MOAB but named Mother-in-Law Of All Bombs. Now that
I think about it, it explains why the turkey always looks like it was cooked in a reactor.
Anyone out there preparing for nuclear annihalation?
If, so don't forget to bring winter clothes. Some places will go to hell.
"Everyone thinks of hell, as this hot and blazing inferno, but in reality it's endless cold", a quote from a german soldier on the eastern front. Idk if it was WW1 or 2 but I always think of it.
Surplus MOPP 3 suits are pretty warm, I used to wear one when hunting in the winter. I'm sure with a wool or similar underlayer and rubberized poncho outer youd be able to trudge the wastes in subzero temps no problem.
The apocalypse in old Scandinavia was called "Finbulvinter" (Winter of Finbul) and is eerily similar to nuclear winter.
theres even the man in the high castle scenario XD
Crazy how redundantly this scenario could play out, as cities already obliterated by 3-4 waves of missiles only to have several more waves of missiles restrike those already wiped out areas.
Its possible if intel systems still work at an acceptable level targets taken out already would not be targeted by another wave. Strike coordinates can be reprogrammed in minutes. These target coordinates are not 100% fixed.
Follow up strikes are standard SOP for nuclear forces, guarantees the total destruction of infrastructure and population basically ensuring that you have fully decapitated your enemy and that they wont come back
@@florinivan6907 I would imagine each wave wohkd target a different section of a metro area, so that each city would be totally wiped out. Hard to call this a “war plan” lol, more like total self extermination.
@@Itraininthebogs In a nuke war like any war you would target stuff of interest. Now depending on how many nukes you got and how expansive your definition of targets of interest is pretty much anything can be targeted. But in practice the target list is smaller. There's also how overpowered nukes are compared to other weapons even the weak nukes. If you take a map of most cities and plot out likely targets:military bases, airports,ports bridges ,railway tracks ,industry, comm towers whatever and see the likely damage from your average nuke your average city is destroyed. What has been declassified indicates that a 50% destruction of a city is usually considered enough in a nuke war. If you nuked say NYC and only the Bronx is still mostly standing I doubt you would care that much if you knew that say a large military base is still around in Florida. That's why it depends heavily on intel systems. If you still have some of it you can reprogramm it fast.
Question is there some kind of Simulator like this but only With Military War without nukes where the Player can just lean back and enjoy the Show? :D
theres a game called Superpower 2 that's similar to this, but you have to control the economy and politics and alliances
from the thumnail subtitle I was expecting a goofy short video with quandale dingle
its been a min. New mic? I like it
I'm moving to Africa from the u.k after watching this
Africa is the last place you want to be, in war or "peace".
@user-jj3fv6be3j not if its not going to be nuked
africa is already in the UK lmao
@@glaze_tpf9791 It's ironic how so many from Latin America, Africa, and Southern Asia want to move to Europe & North America today when those are the worst places to be if nuclear war happens - and also East Asia & the Indian subcontinent since China, India, Pakistan, and North Korea have nukes too.
I guess from this simulation i can say...we will never understand why
Because why not?
You'll never even know what killed you.
@@nunyabusiness9013 Most people will survive the initial blasts so he probably will know what kills him. The vast majority would die in the aftermath.
We know so much about this invention yet so quick to use it
Well thanks, I live in DC and you practically dropped the bomb directly on my job lol.
No shit lmao.
That’s the first target or nuclear war.
Depressing to know everyone would be killed for selfish politions.
Like tf did I do to Russia or China or to the president of USA.
Why can’t we just fight wars normally or use airsoft guns instead.
It’s dumb.
Wow, watching this nuclear war simulator makes me feel like I need to go hug a tree and apologize to it for ever using paper! I mean, the detail is so scary, I feel like I need to start hoarding canned goods and digging a fallout shelter in my backyard just in case. And to think, all this time I was worried about zombies and aliens!
If you live on mainland US or anywhere in Europe it's pointless.
You won't live long enough to need a supply hoard unless you have a sophisticated bunker, and even then you'd just be buying yourself a few months.
Don't live in fear, brother. You and I are destined to die, whether that be by nuclear Armageddon or of a coronary slaving over a stove cooking dinner.
Join the Amish community.
.....SO,DIGGING THE SHELTER IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN JUST LEAVE THAT CARCASS POWERLESS TO INVADE ANYTHING JUST BE?????
....SEEMS TO BE,NUKES ARE ALL THEY HAVE,BUT IT'S ALL THEY NEED.....
Wtf does this have to do with trees and paper
7:15 Russia has satellites and OTH Radar dedicated entirely to locating incoming ballistic missiles, so they should have responded about 1 minute after they detected mass launch. Systems are much better and much more accurate these days so there should be no question of mass launch anymore.
You assume systems are much better nowadays, but America didn't have the ability to send people to orbit for basically 10 years recently, and Russian Sojuz rockets seem to have more failures than in the past.
Though you're probably right about detection capabilities.
That's the thing. They will be automatically detected within a minute , but it won't launch automatically. It would have to still be approved to launch a nuclear strike, which in reality could take time... The only automatic system that I'm aware of is the "Perimetr" system , which automatically launches nukes if it detects that the motherland has been successfully nuked. i. e. radiation levels of a nuclear blast, lost communications to the controlling center etc.
Outstanding tool and very well described by the author. The only little inaccuracy I heard was when he said "submarines are launching their Minuteman missiles..." US ballistic missile submarines carry Trident II missiles, the Minuteman missiles are land-based ICBM's. Thanks for sharing!
Nuclear winter is a very simple scenario. most places only have food reserves for half a year on average, and animal husbandry gives much more food than farms, that will give next to none.
Past that there is only cannibalism, where horse-riding gives a long term advantage for hunting.
Nuclear bunkers are an insignificant exception.
7:16 bro Engels airbase got hit with like 100 nukes
Yep this isnt even accurate anymore. its still a 80s scenario when nukes where on the peak.... If you see that they could send a simple Drone bomb to engels a few weeks ago that destroyed planes there. You know that the shild in russia is damn full of holes. I dont even think that 10% of russias ICBMs even work if they got the same maintenance than their military since the 90s. The Fight in ukraine right now rly shows the state russias army is in. Its a pile of junk. Every shiny rocket they present on a parade is nothing more than propaganda diversion. If russia is rly that strong they could win that thing in ukraine in 2 weeks with ease. But they cant. Because they are phony.
I heard that’s where Russia has their most bombers and SU57s their too
I would get this game if it wasn't 30$. I was expecting 10-15$ at most.
For that money you can still get Defcon.
Me seeing a nearby city next to me being blown up: 👁️👄👁️
I think of the scenarios listed by WOPR in War Games. They sounded very ominous.
if america launched all its silo based missels, russia would probably redirect their missels to alternative targets
Questionable if they would have the ability to do this so fast.
@@MichaelDeSanta. I think everything about nuclear war is questionable. Given that it has never happened on this scale, something is bound to go wrong. This is why the Russians, for all their fanaticism, do not dare to use nuclear weapons.
Loved the video devildog. Would be interested to see the nuke in Ukraine senario play out. You're right, it is scary how indepth and accurate this is.
Not that accurate nobody knows what quantity quality nukes each country has in stock it's classified.
wow how fun there is so much fun to be had with this game for the whole family old and young so wholesome.
This is really helping with my nuclear anxieties
All those faces from that AI art shit lol
Isnt it crazy about the spy balloon like with China rn creepy vibes
lmao no
@@mrmrushworth it's hilarious everyone shits their pants over a baloon news flash china was already spying they don't need a baloon in the sky to do it china is a master at this shit
It's just a balloon, everyone is spying at eachother all the time. They just happened to get caught.
It would take thousands of years for the earth to recover from something like this...
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