I absolutely love the Waldstein although not as astonishing as the later Sonatas it is as you point out quite a radical piece of music and I find it very moving. Your excellent heartfelt and widely referenced analysis has enhanced my appreciation. Thank you. Allegro con brio indeed!
Great tutorial Lisa. The glissando was giving me fits. Love your realistic to approach to such a masterpiece. Thank you and wonderful playing has well. Wished I lived in New York I could use a lesson or 2.
I really enjoyed your approach to this piece which also transfers to Beethoven’s other works. I’ve listened to many various works of his and there are alot of common bits you here over and again. For example, I’ve always felt a strong connection/correlation between the Apassionata Sonata and the 5th Symphony. I like your emphasis on the broad harmonic action because I have always found Beethoven to be very deep & profound in his messaging and that’s most often where I feel his musical “storylines” are really told… in the harmonic movement. Almost like the sub conscious mind underneath the conscious/superficial motion. Thanks for sharing your talent and insights for us all to enjoy! ❤
Hats off to Lisa ! She is definitely a virtuoso ! And she is a passionate musician! Hher videos on the Waldstein and "Moonlight" Sonatas are eminently serviceable and helpful. Thank you, Lisa! My students and I love watching them, and get a lot out of them:)
This is truly a magnificent tutorial on the Waldstein - insightful , brilliant, enthusiastic and helpful in every way !!! Thank you !! And by the way, you are also a wonderful pianist !
I love your insightful and powerful lectures Lisa! I've played this piece for a few years, but you introduced so many ideas I never thought about. I like your emphasis on paying attention to the harmonic progression throughout the piece, rather than having precision on every single note. I'd love to see more lectures soon! 🎹
Not a fan of playing the infamous octaves glissando but I'm not going to open that can of worms again. :D Very helpful and insightful lesson, thank you!
Yay! Thank you for the upload. I will try this one out this summer alongside this video for help. I usually tackle the 'scary' ones during the summer since there is more downtime between lessons and school. This one may be a good one to try (I've always wanted to do this one, and the D Major Sonata, Pastoral as well). Love the cadence of C Minor in this as well. My motivation to try this one honestly, haha. Miss you much! Hope all is well with you!!
1.08.30 The pedal at the beginning of the Rondo. Beethovens piano ( around 1800 , a Graf instrument ) had a very bad working pedal . Nowadays the right pedal is much stronger , so maybe better to use not too much pedal.
Wow, I wish I were that perfect at the piano 🥲 I have played the Waldstein before, but never played it that perfectly, well not in my opinion. Your tips are very good. Memory slips are always my problem. Trying to remember every single chord and inversion in the whole piece and having to preempt it is just so hard in such a long piece. I'm not a professional pianist, so I don't get as much time to practice, unfortunately. But, at the moment, I am learning his 16th Sonata (in G major) - funnily enough, it's hard, but it's way easier than Waldstein! Do you have any tips for memorisation?
I’m glad you found the video helpful! There is never “perfect” at the piano, only “better”! Try memorizing in sections, a bit each day. This might sound impossible in the beginning, but try saying/singing the notes as you sing the melody line, away from the piano. I can’t tell you how much that will help you memorize a line. The G major sonata is super hard, but I love that piece.
No melody? This sonata has some of the most beautiful melodies throught each movement. The name Waldstein litterally comes from Beethoven's close friend, Count Ferdinand Ernst Gabriel von Waldstein who he dedicatied this sonata too. Why is she playing it so loud? Why is she calling the second tremalo G major and not D minor? I wouldn't trust most of what this "Dr" has to say. Considering she misses some basic things right off the bat. "The sonata's name derives from Beethoven's dedication to his close friend and patron Count Ferdinand Ernst Gabriel von Waldstein"
Hi MJTcompositions: Sorry you felt so negatively about this video. Perhaps English is not your native language, but I’m not sure why you mention the source of the nickname (not title), “Waldstein,” as I literally talk about its source within the first few minutes of the video (with his image!). The “G major” is referring to the key of the first tremolo section at mm. 14-17 (I mention the key after playing the entire phrase). The second tremolo section is actually in A minor (which I mention), not D minor. I’m referring to the key of the phrases, not individual harmonies. I’m sure you know all of this, and it was just a slip. Let’s be kind online. There is already so much rudeness and meanness in the world! Cheers.
Bars 34-37 are just magical 🥹
I absolutely love the Waldstein although not as astonishing as the later Sonatas it is as you point out quite a radical piece of music and I find it very moving. Your excellent heartfelt and widely referenced analysis has enhanced my appreciation. Thank you. Allegro con brio indeed!
Great tutorial Lisa. The glissando was giving me fits. Love your realistic to approach to such a masterpiece. Thank you and wonderful playing has well. Wished I lived in New York I could use a lesson or 2.
I really enjoyed your approach to this piece which also transfers to Beethoven’s other works. I’ve listened to many various works of his and there are alot of common bits you here over and again. For example, I’ve always felt a strong connection/correlation between the Apassionata Sonata and the 5th Symphony. I like your emphasis on the broad harmonic action because I have always found Beethoven to be very deep & profound in his messaging and that’s most often where I feel his musical “storylines” are really told… in the harmonic movement. Almost like the sub conscious mind underneath the conscious/superficial motion. Thanks for sharing your talent and insights for us all to enjoy! ❤
Hats off to Lisa ! She is definitely a virtuoso ! And she is a passionate musician! Hher videos on the Waldstein and "Moonlight" Sonatas are eminently serviceable and helpful. Thank you, Lisa! My students and I love watching them, and get a lot out of them:)
This is truly a magnificent tutorial on the Waldstein - insightful , brilliant, enthusiastic and helpful in every way !!! Thank you !! And by the way, you are also a wonderful pianist !
@@pianolessonsboulder1894 So glad you found it helpful!
I love your insightful and powerful lectures Lisa! I've played this piece for a few years, but you introduced so many ideas I never thought about. I like your emphasis on paying attention to the harmonic progression throughout the piece, rather than having precision on every single note. I'd love to see more lectures soon! 🎹
So glad you found this video interesting, Adam! There are other videos floating around. More to come ☺️
Thank you kindly🤍
Wonderful analysis
Not a fan of playing the infamous octaves glissando but I'm not going to open that can of worms again. :D
Very helpful and insightful lesson, thank you!
This video helped me a lot and gave me another approach to analyze this piece ❤
Wow, great to see you are still doing educational piano content!
Thank you for watching, Schipunov!
Thank you so much Lisa for this fantastic tutorial.
Thank YOU for watching and liking!
Absolutely interesting. Thanks a lot for uploading this masterclass.
I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
It was amazing!!❤
Thank you!
This is wonderful, thanks so much for this. Working on the Sonata right now.
Glad you found it helpful! Best of luck.
Yay! Thank you for the upload. I will try this one out this summer alongside this video for help. I usually tackle the 'scary' ones during the summer since there is more downtime between lessons and school. This one may be a good one to try (I've always wanted to do this one, and the D Major Sonata, Pastoral as well). Love the cadence of C Minor in this as well. My motivation to try this one honestly, haha.
Miss you much! Hope all is well with you!!
Thank you, Steve!!
1.08.30 The pedal at the beginning of the Rondo. Beethovens piano ( around 1800 , a Graf instrument ) had a very bad working
pedal . Nowadays the right pedal is much stronger , so maybe better to use not too much pedal.
But what he wanted was the harmonic wash.
Wow, I wish I were that perfect at the piano 🥲
I have played the Waldstein before, but never played it that perfectly, well not in my opinion. Your tips are very good. Memory slips are always my problem. Trying to remember every single chord and inversion in the whole piece and having to preempt it is just so hard in such a long piece. I'm not a professional pianist, so I don't get as much time to practice, unfortunately. But, at the moment, I am learning his 16th Sonata (in G major) - funnily enough, it's hard, but it's way easier than Waldstein! Do you have any tips for memorisation?
I’m glad you found the video helpful! There is never “perfect” at the piano, only “better”! Try memorizing in sections, a bit each day. This might sound impossible in the beginning, but try saying/singing the notes as you sing the melody line, away from the piano. I can’t tell you how much that will help you memorize a line. The G major sonata is super hard, but I love that piece.
Why is the video silent?
It's a pity the chords and modulations are not marked on the music sheet.
The Seinfeld sonata!
No melody? This sonata has some of the most beautiful melodies throught each movement. The name Waldstein litterally comes from Beethoven's close friend, Count Ferdinand Ernst Gabriel von Waldstein who he dedicatied this sonata too. Why is she playing it so loud? Why is she calling the second tremalo G major and not D minor?
I wouldn't trust most of what this "Dr" has to say. Considering she misses some basic things right off the bat.
"The sonata's name derives from Beethoven's dedication to his close friend and patron Count Ferdinand Ernst Gabriel von Waldstein"
Hi MJTcompositions: Sorry you felt so negatively about this video. Perhaps English is not your native language, but I’m not sure why you mention the source of the nickname (not title), “Waldstein,” as I literally talk about its source within the first few minutes of the video (with his image!). The “G major” is referring to the key of the first tremolo section at mm. 14-17 (I mention the key after playing the entire phrase). The second tremolo section is actually in A minor (which I mention), not D minor. I’m referring to the key of the phrases, not individual harmonies. I’m sure you know all of this, and it was just a slip. Let’s be kind online. There is already so much rudeness and meanness in the world! Cheers.
A curiously malicious comment that says more about you than this excellent and extempore analysis.
Pathetic guy 😂
Too fast