I expected it to be just a dumb horn with TOTTALY different notes, like B, D, F#, A#, and D. I tried those on my piano, and it sounded more like a 1st Gen K5LLA. If those were the notes, the video would probably be called “Horrible Sounding PVC 1st Gen K5LLA vs. Real K5LA!”
I agree Captain Transit, the PVC K5LA horn does sound more like the kind you'd find on either an Amtrak F-40ph or the current diesel locomotives, the P-42 diesel locomotives
@@SD60M There was a deliberate one note difference between the Amtrak and Chessie K5s, and the homemade one sounded more like an Amtrak version to me. I hope this guy was wearing ear plugs of some kind when he did that. Having been line side often in the 1980s for both, I know just how loud both versions are. That is one of the reasons they went to other types and moved the placement of them to the middle of the car body.
Little bit of a difference but I think that's due to the materials they horns are made of. The real K5LA has a more of a ringing sound almost. Absolutely awesome in my opinion! Thanks for sharing
@@steelteepost9810 Is that real K5LA a sand cast original? The PVC horn sounded far better than I would have thought! You should try making a Leslie S5a if that's possible?
Scott, both horns are quite beautiful, but different in sound: Your real K5LA is a late MP-model, tuned after a horn that I made and some owners of MP who were my friends liked. This chord is vibrant like a high pitched M5. I have the video you made of your PVC K5LA from a distance, and I think it is even more beautiful in sound than many of the common 1980's, 1990's, early 2000's K5LAs. In this video you were too close to the horns, hence alot of distortion. I would like to see you make the same video comparison done at the same spot where you made your distant recording of the PVC K5LA, which is beautiful indeed to hear! Because your compressor cycled on, I was unable to hear the echoes made by the PVC horn, so in musical beauty the MP K5LA wins, but in db power, your PVC horn is as powerful as the real horn. Great work!
The Nathan K5LAR24 appears to be a raised letter, and sounds pretty good. I think it echoes and carries a little further. But the PVC horn sounds like a 90's K5LA. Both sound really good and it seems the PVC one is giving folks a similar bang for a smaller buck! :)
The PVC K5LA is tuned as an older K5LA model (1st gen) with the root position B major 6th chord. The regular one is a newer K5LA (3rd gen) with the modern tuning of the B Major 6th chord in 1st inversion.
Very good both sound great , probably scare the hell out of your neighbors ! Where would one purchase or get a train horn and how much would they cost ?
The pricing of real train horns depends heavily on the model and when the horn was made. A brand new train horn from Nathan Airchime or Leslie Controls will likely run you well above $1,000. But an older, used train horn (the most common that you'll encounter) will run you anywhere from $300 for a three chime Nathan P3 to $900 for a five chime K5LA (pre Raised Letter). I hope this helps.
3 questions: What would you say is the best sight to buy a K5LA? Where did you get the dust covers? Is installation on a vehicle straight forward or best done by an auto shop?
@@NSSCOTTTEAGUE it's a neat thing to hear every now and then. There's no railroads in this area, so the signature sound is the occasional Jake brake, and one truck with a train horn. I should find out who it is haha
This video is exactly what I need! I am shopping around for some train horn for my pick up but just got stuck and confused with all the options out there and was even doubting if hornblsters were any good comparing to the real Nathan one. But honestly they sound almost the same and it's a big difference in $ for that Mather. Thanx bud.
Love the craftsmen ship of your horns and the quality of sound is amazing, I sent you a email regarding a previous inquiry for vehicle sponsorship, I have a set of hornblasters I’d like to get a set of yours for another vehicle to promote and compete with the hornblasters of possible
I could not tell the difference. They both sound exactly the same. Awesome work sir! If I may ask, how much did you spend on parts to make the PVC set?
1/2 inch ID hose necked down with 3/16 equivalent flow quick disconnect fittings before and after the valve ! “QUACK” ! What a way to rig a comparison test for the quarry . “QUACK” “QUACK” !
Can you make me a K5A LL tuned to D#, F#, A# Octave D# with the B Natural above that? I plan on putting on a motorcar(aka speeder)and a WABCO E2 pitched in Low Eb(D#).How much for you to build it?
NSSCOTTTEAGUE what fittings are compatible with your horns? I see where it can handle 130 psi on 1/2 inch airlines but I have been doing a little research on compressor kits and just wondering what they should include.
Wow, that PVC one sounded much better than I expected.
i loved the 1st one!!!
there's more vibration in the PVC. which could end up warping with prolong use
Just not as loud as I expected! QUACK!
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I expected it to be just a dumb horn with TOTTALY different notes, like B, D, F#, A#, and D.
I tried those on my piano, and it sounded more like a 1st Gen K5LLA. If those were the notes, the video would probably be called “Horrible Sounding PVC 1st Gen K5LLA vs. Real K5LA!”
I had such low expectations for the PVC one, but I will say this: That was the best sounding PVC K5la I've ever heard. It *blew* me away.
The PVC sounds like one you’d find on an Amtrak.
I agree Captain Transit, the PVC K5LA horn does sound more like the kind you'd find on either an Amtrak F-40ph or the current diesel locomotives, the P-42 diesel locomotives
Just less than 1/2 as loud though! QUACK.
Yes
Actually thats a raised letter K5LA made for CSX
@@SD60M There was a deliberate one note difference between the Amtrak and Chessie K5s, and the homemade one sounded more like an Amtrak version to me. I hope this guy was wearing ear plugs of some kind when he did that. Having been line side often in the 1980s for both, I know just how loud both versions are. That is one of the reasons they went to other types and moved the placement of them to the middle of the car body.
Little bit of a difference but I think that's due to the materials they horns are made of. The real K5LA has a more of a ringing sound almost. Absolutely awesome in my opinion! Thanks for sharing
I'd agree, the real one sounds slightly better. But for the 10x price difference, the PVC one is a real bargain for occasional fun use.
@@steelteepost9810 Is that real K5LA a sand cast original? The PVC horn sounded far better than I would have thought! You should try making a Leslie S5a if that's possible?
Scott, both horns are quite beautiful, but different in sound: Your real K5LA is a late MP-model, tuned after a horn that I made and some owners of MP who were my friends liked. This chord is vibrant like a high pitched M5.
I have the video you made of your PVC K5LA from a distance, and I think it is even more beautiful in sound than many of the common 1980's, 1990's, early 2000's K5LAs.
In this video you were too close to the horns, hence alot of distortion. I would like to see you make the same video comparison done at the same spot where you made your distant recording of the PVC K5LA, which is beautiful indeed to hear!
Because your compressor cycled on, I was unable to hear the echoes made by the PVC horn, so in musical beauty the MP K5LA wins, but in db power, your PVC horn is as powerful as the real horn. Great work!
The Nathan K5LAR24 appears to be a raised letter, and sounds pretty good. I think it echoes and carries a little further.
But the PVC horn sounds like a 90's K5LA. Both sound really good and it seems the PVC one is giving folks a similar bang for a smaller buck! :)
The PVC K5LA is tuned as an older K5LA model (1st gen) with the root position B major 6th chord. The regular one is a newer K5LA (3rd gen) with the modern tuning of the B Major 6th chord in 1st inversion.
I need one for my bicycle. :)
Like to see that
Yes me to... Of course. Everyone needs one of that😂😂😂😂
I want one on my skateboard.
I’m putting a real p3 on my bike.
That PVC K5LA sounds pretty close to the real one - wow.
I wish all of the Amtrak P-42 diesel locomotives had the PVC K5LA horns on them, I think it sounds AWESOME 👍🏻
awesome! PVC version sounds really good!
Nice! Sounds good man! It's amazing how good those PVC horns can sound
Very good both sound great , probably scare the hell out of your neighbors ! Where would one purchase or get a train horn and how much would they cost ?
Ebay is the best bet...
NSSCOTTTEAGUE Thanks !
David Allen a real nathan horn is about 1500$
The pricing of real train horns depends heavily on the model and when the horn was made. A brand new train horn from Nathan Airchime or Leslie Controls will likely run you well above $1,000. But an older, used train horn (the most common that you'll encounter) will run you anywhere from $300 for a three chime Nathan P3 to $900 for a five chime K5LA (pre Raised Letter). I hope this helps.
Wow! To me the PVC version sounds just like the K5La's that I heard on Amtrak F40's!
I find the slightly higher pitch of the PVC one so much more pleasing
3 questions:
What would you say is the best sight to buy a K5LA?
Where did you get the dust covers?
Is installation on a vehicle straight forward or best done by an auto shop?
Now that is a k5la!! Amazing tuning on that pvc k5la
And then there's just a P5 vibin in the back
Not loud enough to worry about hearing loss?
Christopher Weaver ive been to a couple nhra events without ear protection. Compared to nitro dragsters, these are nothing
They both sound the same to me, can't tell the difference in the sound, but they do sound awesome :)
I wonder if I could make a KMJ-234 out of PVC. Can't buy a real one anymore.
That's the greatest thing I've seen all day. Might have to try and make one of them myself.
Cool
There's a truck that frequents Alpine, CA (San Diego County) with a horn something like this
Sold a lot over 4 years now. So I wouldn't be surprised.
@@NSSCOTTTEAGUE it's a neat thing to hear every now and then. There's no railroads in this area, so the signature sound is the occasional Jake brake, and one truck with a train horn. I should find out who it is haha
Amtrak needs to take lessons from this guy cuz whatever he's doing to make that PVC k5la work it sounds better than the original
This video is exactly what I need!
I am shopping around for some train horn for my pick up but just got stuck and confused with all the options out there and was even doubting if hornblsters were any good comparing to the real Nathan one. But honestly they sound almost the same and it's a big difference in $ for that Mather.
Thanx bud.
PVC sounds badass
Hooooly shit that pvc K5 sounded like straight up 90’s Amtrak. How on earth did you make that because I want one
A lot of studying of what to use and tuning.
Wow I'm impressed by the PVC one
Love the craftsmen ship of your horns and the quality of sound is amazing, I sent you a email regarding a previous inquiry for vehicle sponsorship, I have a set of hornblasters I’d like to get a set of yours for another vehicle to promote and compete with the hornblasters of possible
If you where to get a train horn for your car, where on the car would you set it up?
That's your call
sounds damn good sir
I could not tell the difference. They both sound exactly the same. Awesome work sir! If I may ask, how much did you spend on parts to make the PVC set?
What a weird obsession. He must be almost deaf by now.
What
Look up the meaning of the different whistle signals
Have any new "how to" on these coming up? I've seen lots of how to videos but you're getting consistent results
Weird....I think I like the PVC sound a bit more than the real deal.
Wow never heard a PVC K5LA that good before
Nice horns ya got there!
Why is it that the shit MEN post on YT, is SO much more interesting than women's posts? Equal my ass. This shit is awesome lol!
Both are really good
1:35 AND THE JETS WINNN
The original K5LA sounds too good than the pvc K5LA
I know this video is 2 years old but can I ask whats the details of that air pump?
Hi! Can you please get a video recording of your K5LA but this time from behind it and hold it for about 6 or 7 seconds.
What are the db ratings of each? That would be a cool video 😉
just out of curiosity. have you tried honking your real K5LA with 1/2" ID hose?
Is 1/2 inch ID hose.
1/2 inch ID hose necked down with 3/16 equivalent flow quick disconnect fittings before and after the valve ! “QUACK” !
What a way to rig a comparison test for the quarry .
“QUACK” “QUACK” !
Can u do a tutorial if how to make it?
The real K5LA sounds like a raised letter
It is.
How are you, where can I buy or where I bake them, could you tell me
twproductionsvideos.com/horns.shtml
PVC👍
That PVC sounded great how do you make one?
That's the most legit description I've ever seen.
You were Tricky Teagued ! The test was rigged with a small fitting restricting the airflow to the real horn which is actually much louder. QUACK!
Can you make me a K5A LL tuned to D#, F#, A# Octave D# with the B Natural above that? I plan on putting on a motorcar(aka speeder)and a WABCO E2 pitched in Low Eb(D#).How much for you to build it?
That's a K5LL A
Honestly for PVC that sounds pretty good
Wow much do loudly sound
Melodic sound
How would I get one of these horns?
I like the sound of the pvc one better actually
Hey I like your train horn sounds, I want to ask if it's OK to use your sounds for train simulators like Run8?
What sounds?? horn sounds
NSSCOTTTEAGUE yes horn sounds
I think your pvc sounds better
Do you still make the pvc train horns? If so how much?
Facebook MEGABLAST PVC TRAIN HORN
1:06
1:34 PVC
getting a part time job and when my money is saved I'll pay for the K5LLA
do you have anyu plans for this kind of thing? i would like to build one
No
ok thank you
PVC Sharp sound, #WINNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The PVC is the beast its sounds like a NS
That picture HAS SPUNK
I wonder how someone gets real real air horns
You buy them
Are you selling these things on
I'm new to horns and am wondering what the blue things are on the k5la
Dust covers so nothing can get inside of the horns.
Did you build the pvc k5?
Are you making these and selling them
great video
your PVC sounds like a 3rd gen K5LA
Where do I get a pvc one??
twproductionsvideos.com/horns.shtml
PVC K5LA is good and sounds good
Is the real one a Raised letter?
Yes
Where do I find the plans for this thing. I'm going to build one.
I'll give you $150 for your pvc train horn TODAY.
I say your crazy. Sell them more than that lol.
How much?
@@brandonalean1594 www.ebay.com/itm/264467902598?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
I hope it's still there in a couple of months.
I liked em both
Hearing damage in progress.
What??
This would go great for a wimpy horn replacement!
Where do I get a PVC k5la?
twproductionsvideos.com/horns.shtml
Where can I get the blue covers on front of the k5la??
I got them on ebay
What’s the name of the blue covers?
@@jamestimpone6984 Dust covers
you think i could put a real k5la on my tahoe?
What do I need to buy one from you
twproductionsvideos.com/horns.shtml
I wish I had one
PVC is a bit higher pitched
That's because the K5LA is a raised letter horn. Some flat bells in there.
Are you selling these on eBay by any chance because your pvc horn looks just like the one I was looking at
Yes, there is a set on there right now.
NSSCOTTTEAGUE what fittings are compatible with your horns? I see where it can handle 130 psi on 1/2 inch airlines but I have been doing a little research on compressor kits and just wondering what they should include.
Look on youtube and look up air setup for train horns.. A lot of good stuff
Kits should be 1/2 Kits should come with all you need... But you may have to ask where ever you get it from.
yes
Have you ever measured the dbs for your horns. I would assume they are about the same...
They are
+NSSCOTTTEAGUE What air manifold do you use?
NSSCOTTTEAGUE do you make these to sell? I would like a set
PVC K5LA sounded better!
Do you still build these?
twproductionsvideos.com/horns.shtml
Do a video , explain how to do a horn like this pelease, good video bro
You were tricked. QUACK!
@@donaldduck3123 trucked? naa, those horns do not sound at all are disgusting, mine sound better greetings!
How is this dude not deaf no hearing protection?
What
the PVC horns were louder
I bet your ears were ringing after that.
NEVER
NSSCOTTTEAGUE Good for you. Probably used to these horns.
csx frum. KOOPER kivttum.
How much for you to build me some??
I got a set of K5LAs on ebay www.ebay.com/itm/262683713033?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
Sounds cool!
Looks more like a K9LA
Alex the Railfanning Redneck™ P5 horn on the other side, but I thought the same thing too.
The PVC Spunds better than the real one. (In my opinion)
I agree :)