If you’ve ever read Bram Stoker’s Dracula then you know that Dracula being portrayed as a “ravenous force of nature” is actually perfect for this particular story, as that’s EXACTLY how he interacted with the crew.
I've read the chapter. The character isn't exactly a ravenous force of nature. He's just a mystery to the Captain. If he weren't, and the Captain got to know him, he'd discover a character that was both a monster and a man. I think this will be a problem for the movie if it shows too much of the character. If he's kept in the shadows an is unknowable it's okay for him to lack humanity, because we're in the character's POV and they don't know him. However, if they show a lot of him and he remains alien and animalistic, that ain't Dracula. The guy is a sorcerer who is desperately trying to reach a woman he is obsessed with. He can control weather. Turn into other animals. Most importantly, he's kind of a... guy. Hardly showing him and making him animalistic and primal is fine. Showing him a lot and keeping him that way, however, is an issue.
@@dantebanducci235 Hey, you know what? Ya got me. I've read the novel a coupla times, and yet I've also seen many of the movies and my impression of the story has obviously been influenced by them. Probably Nosferatu in particular. Fair call! Even so, I think the general principle that depicting Dracula exclusively as an animalistic force of nature takes a lot away from him is still correct. In particular, I want sorcery. If I see this movie and we don't get a scene where they plan to expose him to sunlight, only to have a deep fog roll in at Dracula's command, I'm gonna be disappointed.
@@dantebanducci235 Nah, the contrast of Dracula to Alien is a very salient point. Alien is just an “organism” so foreign that the crew has nothing to relate it to. Dracula is much more than that… he has a very rich and well developed persona. The Count is a hedonistic aristocrat, and (as with ALL vampiric figures) he has a vaguely erotic quality which hapless mortals are allured by. It is a valid criticism. Why have the creature be Dracula at all if the film isn’t going to focus on those very standard character traits?
@@jabrokneetoeknee6448 Because that's not the aspect of the character the film is focusing on. The aristocratic stuff is for later when he's already in London. For now, it's hunting time.
I like it cause it’s a rare glimpse into Dracula’s true nature. THIS is what he’d be like if he didn’t have to worry about blending in or avoiding hunters. The bestial, primal joy in killing prey - relishing his total control of the situation.
Yeah, in the sections of the Demeter, the Count is just a monster that stalks and kills and never interacts with his prey beyond that (edit: the reason is obviously because there is no escape and thus no potential witnesses, so he doesn’t need to pretend to be human). His personality is better expressed when he is in the castle and when he arrives to London.
@@harmonlanager2670 for me I would assume having a human like body would be easier to get around and be more articulate. it’s easier to kill something big and clunky that’s what I don’t understand about his true nature.
Having read Dracula, I think the way they presented him in the movie is pretty faithful to the book. Dracula was on a ship full of people who don't know anything about vampires after spending a very, very long time stuck in a castle in a region where people know how to protect themselves. He should have felt like a terrifying primal force just like the ocean that they are sailing on.
Of coursed you did, because it was a faithful representation of the character. Personally, I believe this reviewer watched some trailers, interviews and reviews but never actually watched the movie. There's a lot of that on TH-cam. But be careful because it you criticize or otherwise challenge him, he will pretend that he doesn't know what you mean.
really ? and you`ve read the novel and still think they got it right ? there is no giant bat creature in the novel , and particularly not on the demeter ! when he`s seen he`s described as a tall man dressed in black ! the sailors never get a good look at his face but there`s definitely no giant bat creature , or woman on board the ship ! dont get me wrong , it`s decent film , but it`s not the story as bram stoker wrote it !
Yeah! I can't believe it's taken this long to get this chapter into a movie, let alone as it's own, stand-alone feature film. I am SO looking forward to this. 🙂
It's not even really a chapter in the book, and it's been adapted before. It's a small like 5 pages section in the book that mentions Dracula on the Demeter. Therefore most the things in the film are just straight up made up
One point of contention with Chris. I really like the idea of the primal monster showing some emotions (like a smile) during certain sequences. It's a great reminder that it's not just a primal beast. It's Dracula, and ever since he was ever shown in film, his sinister smile has been a part of his character. It's something you don't get with other famous monsters like werewolves who lose any sense of humanity when they turn. This element seems essential to Dracula's character.
Ditto. That smile was sick. Scarier that he's a beast but more and we are nothing to him. However the entire film has contradictions for superficial reasons. Like keeping him gollum looking at the end (which is entire third ruins the film) but in the novel he can change, and is a man (or appears like one). Defeats the purpose for a cane and hat. Seems it was more for an attempt at thematic wealth and power. Which is why I believe he was kept more gollum and weak, almost helpless, was for that theme. 🙄. Was almost a great movie
@@digit861 Yeah I loved this depiction of Dracula as "The Beast" but I do find it strange that they choose to still show him still looking like Nosferatu even when he was in London. It would have definitely been better if we saw Dracula "The Man" at the ending, looking like handsome gentlemen like Gary Oldman's Dracula, which would have been more impactful imo since we would know how terrifying Dracula really is under his mask of humanity and civility.
@@smuggrog9821 Some people have theorized they didn't want to give him a human look and lock in the casting for a future film. With how they did it, it means they can cast anyone in the human role and don't have to worry about too much about being consistent with a past film. Personally, I just handwave it that since Clemmens knows what Dracula "looks" like, no matter the disguise Dracula takes, to Clemmens he will always be that beast on the boat. So to everyone else, Dracula probably looks like a normal gentleman.
@@smuggrog9821 That’s because this is closer to the book and Dracula is always ugly. Him being attractive and handsome wasn’t added until Bela Lugosi portrayed him. “How would no one notice him?” It’s Victorian England. Everyone is ugly cause the air is 89% coal dust and sewage line doubles as tap water
In defense of Draculas on screen weirdness- he’s a weirdo in the book. And that section of the book is people losing their cool with only glimpses of something horrific. In the book no one on the ship actually sees Dracula until they’re about to die, and when a character dies we lose their POV (which is usually a journal or letter). So them not really knowing what to do with him on screen can be directly linked to there being no direct description of his activities in book. Because Dracula left no witnesses. (Dracula the book is basically the found footage blue print)
One of the first adult books I read as a child. We could buy Scholastic books at school back then. I think I was in 3rd grade and I got Dracula and some Agatha Christie. It began a life long love of vampires lol.
@@victoralvarez9459 Bram stoker’s Dracula. There is also a really good movie with the exact same title although it’s not 100% accurate it is still really good
This movie is what I’m really excited for. The Demeter chapter from the book is terrifying and just gives off such an unsettling feeling, probably my favorite too aside from Jonathan’s whole ordeal in Dracula’s castle. Good to hear it did not disappoint 👍🏻
I’m ok with Dracula being presented more as a force of nature, even with some malevolent smiles. The original novel is made up of diary entries and letters written by the human characters and the only perspective we never get, the only inner voice we never hear, is that of Dracula. This makes him this unknowable alien evil in the story. And no movie has ever really captured that. (Side note: if you’ve never read the book I highly recommend it. It’s easily in my top 10 favorite novels.)
As a Dracula fan, I've been excited for this ever since I saw a preview for it ahead of Renfield, and it's nice that we've got two different Dracula movies this year that have different tones to offer
I keep seeing people mention that Dracula doesn't have a lot of character in the film but that is how it was written in the book. In the Francis Ford Coppola film adaptation the section featuring the Demeter was almost identical. The concept of the voyage in the book is very straightforward: Dracula ships himself to London in a box of dirt, he wakes up at night and kills the crew to feed. There isn't a lot of detail stating that Dracula ever even takes a human form and chills out with anyone, and given the fact that he's probably starving it stands to reason that he would be pretty monster like.
Right, he has no need to be charismatic here. It makes sense for this section of the story. I do think it would be cool to see a movie about Harker being trapped at Castle Dracula and you could see the more charismatic side of this Dracula in that film.
@@rockytopbrittExactly! Being suave and charismatic isn’t a part of his personality, it’s a tool to help hunt. If he doesn’t need it, he abandons attempts at being social.
And by the way, throughout the film, Dracula was rationing and feeding on them one man every single day. His first man kill, he was very weak as he came out from the shadow crawling weakly then jumped forward as a surprise attack and licked the blood from the floor before crawling towards the victim. I don't know how him being charismatic will work in the movie as that meant there's a random dude in the ship and they have the rule of throwing such people to the sea to die which was almost the fate of Anna. It's a good movie overall but I can't help to be stressed out by series of dumb decisions that eventually got most of the crew killed. 😩
I just saw this movie, and it's easily one of the best vampire/monster movies I've seen in awhile. All the cast members delivered a solid performance. The atmospheric tension is steady and palpable throughout the entire film. A must watch for any horror creature lover.
I definitely watched a different movie. Characters were incredibly stupid, the girls saying "he's here" instead of "there is a monster in the ship that will kill us all, AMA!"... They could've quickly left the ship early in the morning while seeing it burn on top and sinking in the bottom, what's Dracula gonna do..? Start flying midway!? Nah
I think the reason why Dracula is so primal makes sense. He's out on this boat for weeks and he's absolutely starving since there are no villages to feed from. Instead he has to strategically pick the crew off one by one so that he can make it to his destination. He didn't show nearly any emotion in this chapter as it focused entirely from the perspective of the Captain's diary.
That makes sense . Vampires when deprived of blood can go primal and look more like a monster. And if I recall correctly, when I read the book, they didn’t mention Dracula too much in the Captains Log or something. I could be wrong tho.
Precisely - the chapter that describes the voyage in the book is made up of excerpts from the logs of the captain of the Demeter, and it doesn't describe Dracula talking to anyone or really making any effort to masquerade as a human. It instead references various crew members and even ultimately the captain himself seeing an unidentified, sinister wraith-like figure half glimpsed in the unnatural pall of fog and darkness that surrounds the Demeter as crew members start to go missing one by one. There are no radios when this books is set, no real means for a ship out at sea to communicate with shore or with any other vessel that is not within sight, so Dracula has his prey trapped on the Demeter with nowhere to run and no means to call for help. Even if they abandoned ship on a small boat, their odds of survival would be poor at best in an age before search and rescue and GPS beacons out on the open sea. Simply jumping overboard and swimming for it would be an even worse prospect. The vampires in the original novel are also much given to cruelty even if they were good people in their mortal lives, so enjoying the fear and desperation of his trapped prey, and indulging his true monstrous nature since he knows there will be no survivors and so no witnesses to carry the tale and damage his ability to conceal himself in society, is entirely in keeping with how Dracula is described in the book.
Dracula the book is so amazing I’m shocked nobody’s made a series of it, respecting the integrity of the text and focusing on each character per chapter, my favorite us Quincy because he’s a cowboy in the middle of a bunch of English men. In my head, the boat chapter is so intriguing and tense that it deserves a full episode.
This part of the book always felt short changed in film versions, which was frustrating as it is easily the most terrifying chapter in the book. It’s good to hear the film doesn’t disappoint. I would disagree with you about the portrayal of Dracula though. He is old and weaker in the beginning of the novel, but as he feeds on the ship, he reaches England stronger and younger in appearance. At his core he is an evil, primal monster, but he would be relishing regaining his powers on the Demeter.
I disagree. I loved the treatment in Coppola’s version. Something unknown aboard which butchered them one by one, and ended with a floating slaughterhouse gliding silently into port was perfect.
It's cool that you're still putting out these reviews with all that you got going on. I've been watching you for a while and appreciate your short insightful reviews. I hope all is going well with your movie and all other endeavors. Thanks for all the hard work and thank you for the content.
Pretty sure he doesn't have a choice. Those reviews are prolly the only source of income he has at the moment. And even if that's not the case, you always need more money for a movie. I'm still sad about no more hilariocities
When I was in college I wrote a script for a short film based on this same chapter so I'm really looking forward to see how they do it. I think Dracula being a force of nature that is surviving and simultaneously relishing every kill fits very well with the book, but I'll wait until I see it. Still, really hyped for this movie.
Chris has pretty good taste. If he says it's good I'll believe him over someone calling it a stinker with zero explanation as to why or any effort put into explaining themselves. @@greggibson33
This was the most horrific part of the entire book. And they made it into a movie. And apparently, it sucks for everyone on that boat. Excellent, Imma watch this.
@@grim_2000 oh yeah in the story that makes sense Tho in reality I imagine a vampire may have the ability to live for thousands of years being an apex predator like it is
@@Lurkai That's what they made of 'Dracula' in Blade 3, where he was few thousand years old, going back to ancient Babylon or something. But classic interpretation of Dracula is him being historical _Vlad the Impaler_ first, originating in 15 century
Bela Lugosi, who was the first American film Dracula in the classic 1931 release, once did an extensive interview, prior to his being cast by Universal, where he described the cinematic possibilities of the Demeter section of the novel. Sadly, Universal chose to ignore it for the most part. Interesting that it has taken 92 years for Hollywood to properly mine this section of the novel.
As someone who’s favorite subgenre of horror is monster movies I’ve been really excited for this movie, probably more than most people, it looked like a dark, intense, claustrophobic monster movie, also since in most renditions of Dracula he’s portrayed as a sophisticated yet evil human-like monster I really like the idea of this movie having him be more like a primal creature like the Xenomorph or something, so while most people probably didn’t care about this movie leading up to it I did and I’m really excited to see it
@@missrabbit5583 The Fly (1986) The Birds The Blob (1954) Invisible Man (Both the 1933 and 2020 versions, they each tell a completely different story and they’re both amazing) The Monster (2016) An American Werewolf In London Crawl (More of a man vs nature type of movie I guess but it’s still classified as horror) Dracula (1931) Frankenstein (1931) Bride Of Frankenstein (1935) The Wolfman (1941) Creature From The Black Lagoon (1954) Slither They Live Overlord The Thing (1982 & 2011) (A lot of people didn’t like the 2011 movie but I thought it was awesome, P.S, watch the 2011 movie first because it takes place before the 1982 movie)
@benm5970 omg, thankyouuu! I've watched a few movies on this list, and my fav out of this list was Frankenstein. I'm about to get on this list right away lol!
OMG, I had the same experience discovering David Dastmalchian. I saw him in The Dark Knight and always thought he was weirdly good for such a bit part, and then I recognized him in the Wendy's commercial. Now he's everywhere! He's a very talented actor with a really sad story leading up to his big Hollywood breaks, so it's nice to see him getting some recognition.
I agree, plus seeing him in Suicide Squad was a treat, he's actually done a lot of talks on addiction and other topics on his own and is someone who I think deserves the success coming his way. He seems to have been through a lot and has come out the other side swinging.
I think Dracula's semi-primal state makes sense, since he's half starved and out of his element, but simultaneously very intelligent and powerful, with more than a bit of a God complex. I especially loved how he seemed to be learning English from his victims as he went ("pleas no" was one of my favorite scenes)
I don’t mind dracula smiling since it hints at the winder universe of him actually being that type of person anyway, this isn’t his “final form” per-say so actually hearing that he does smile and notice his actions really excites me personally. But I understand how it can clash with the beast aspect.
I saw the trailer when I went to see the flash. After the movie, instead of discussing the flash, I turned to my wife and said “that Dracula on a boat movie looked good” lol
I’ve got tickets to see it tonight and I was getting really worried as each day prior to release came and went and no one was reviewing it. But I’m glad to hear that it’s mostly great. Dracula is my favorite of the classic monsters and one of my favorite books ever so I’m happy we’re getting a good adaptation of one of the creepiest parts of the book.
I thought it was a interesting idea, but I always thought it was more terrifying just knowing everyone on the ship, the image of the captain being tied to the steering wheel was always more scary and mysterious than any movie can ever capture that you imagine in your mind. And I want to see a whole movie about dracula, not just a small part of the book.
I think the trailer spoiled a bit to much but still i really want to see this movie just because i like this type of claustrophobic one location movie.
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate your ability to summarize your thoughts effectively. I love your reviews because you are able to say a lot in a short amount of time.
Anyone else curious why Chris hasn't talked about the A24 release of "Talk to Me"? I thought it was great, and I assumed Chris would too and would have talked about it in a video by now.
It can be fancy but this is only because it has observed humans for thousands of years, amongst other cryptid creatures im sure But I enjoy this primal version as we technically already got a fancy and fun version of Dracula in the Netflix: Dracula series Which imo is the best version of fancy Dracula ever
@@greggibson33 they went with a less sophisticated Dracula for a reason. He's not really mentioned much in the chapters the way one might traditionally think if they were to actually read the book. and of course you can replace Dracula with almost any monster. so long as the story/screenplay is intact which it seems like Chris noted work really good for the characters, y'know considering this whole part of the book is from THIER perspective. But hey, I get it, we all love a fancy Dracula who is smart, witty and fun....not like some haven't seen/read that a thousand times before *yawn*
@@Lurkai I could care less about fancy (whatever that means).This Dracula could be replaced by any of the hundreds of vampires in the background of any of the Underworld movies.... talk about yawn.
@@greggibson33 I’m not exactly sure what you’re statement entails Are you implying that a generic monster movie is not exciting? If so then I feel like all monster movies could be considered a yawn fest with that sentiment what would make it more exciting, to your standards? Also what is your favorite monster movie if I might ask?
Considering how this goes in the book, and the fact that Dracula is just hitching a ride on this ship to his destination and sees the crew as his sea snacks, his behavior makes perfect sense.
If you have ever read Bram Stoker's Dracula, you know that he does exhibit emotions. Some would even say that the novel is a love story in many ways. Also, the "Captain's Log" section of the book is the inspiration for so many 'monster in the house' movies - with Alien being one of them.
David Dastmalchian deserves to win everything and enjoy every success. I was excited to see him as Piter De Vries but I was really disappointed that he was criminally underused in such a good role.
The way you described Dracula as a primal force that relishes the pain he inflicts is actually spot on to this part of the novel! Dracula is very motivated by hunger, but just as much he’s motivated by fear
Why haven’t you Reviewd Talk to Me? I find it curious considering home much you have in common with the Directors. We’re all looking forward to hearing your thoughts! I really enjoyed the film.
Absolutely loved this movie. So much atmosphere. I actually love the fact that Dracula enjoys their fear and preys upon that as much as them. He relishes it. Great Dracula film.
Just watched the film. It didn’t quite feel like a horror film to me personally, but I loved the character depth and emotional turn within the story, also loved the film’s score. I give it a solid 7.5/10, I really hope they make a sequel.
Tbf in this section on the Dracula book he doesn’t do anything on the boat except eat and sleep I guess he toys with the crew a bit but he doesn’t really interact with them beyond murdering them or scaring them
Fascinating that Dracula is primal in the movie. Now I want to see it just to see how it contrasts with Bram Stoker’s Dracula where Dracula has so much depth and emotion. In Bram Stoker’s Dracula, Dracula’s motivation for eternal life is to reconnect with his reincarnated wife. It’s a romantic story in some ways. He waits centuries to find her but can only sustain his long life with drinking life’s blood.
PLEASE! Talk about “Talk to me” it’s an amazing accomplishment coming from TH-camrs like yourself and since you’re also making a horror movie I’m dying to watch your review
That’s prob why he won’t review tbh, could be some bitterness that he wasn’t the first TH-camr to make a serious horror movie. Could be wrong, but I can imagine he’d feel a type of way about it and therefor wouldn’t review it
I always loved this idea of a group of people being stuck somewhere with no help for hundreds or thousands of miles. Just you and death. This film, Alien, and The Thing. Brilliant concept for any horror film idea.
Cheers Chris! Loved the review, I have a little note on the whole Dracula being primal á la Alien. In the novel he's weak while traveling, especially over water, thus he's not the refined continental gentleman count, but a more in-between quasi animal creature with a hint of consciousness. Not beast, but neither interested in connecting with victims. The fact that you said it conflicted between showing emotions and being primitive is indeed a very accurate description of his state in the novel.
Can't wait to watch this. Authopsy of Jane Doe is one of my favorite horror movies in recent years and David Dastmalchian I always found an extremely expressive actor that never really got much room to show his chops. Can't wait to watch this!
Dracula is a monster, he drinks the blood of his victims and toys with them. He is a monster than pretends to be a man. I feel as if the film captured Dracula perfectly.
A shame this didn't do better. Terrifying, scariest Dracula ever! The cast was AMAZING. This is a future cult favorite. It wouldn't have been nearly as scary if Dracula had been developed like a person.
I believe the movie was very good. About Dracula showing emotions by smiling, this should not be misconstrued as an error, but a highlight that he relished the kills. In addition, it clearly wasn't his intention to rise and attack the crew, but given the circumstances of losing his lunch pack for such a long voyage, then who wouldn't be pissed? 😊 I was happy to see a scary vampire again, and I really appreciate how Dracula was handled; no humanity, just primal and evil. We know the Dracula story from the book and films, and so we are also quite familiar with his intrigue when mascarding as a person, but let's not forget that this was the same dude who fed a new born to his brides..
Fortunately, they pretty much did almost everything right with this movie! One thing that I REALLY appreciated, is that most of the time you have a child actor in a film, they're usually REALLY irritating and annoying to watch. But surprisingly, in this particular case, the boy "Toby" (Woody Norman) did an EXCELLENT job at making you actually relate to (and care about) him! The whole affair had a fantastic creepy vibe, and had the perfect amount of suspense, darkness, and claustrophobia, to keep you spooked out without having to rely too much on a cheap jump scare every 2 or 3 minutes! Not that they didn't have a few jump scares (because they did), but they didn't try to depend on them too heavily to deliver a dose of fright. They truly did justice to the original source material (for the most part),, and the parts where they DID stray off wasn't really too aggravating or disappointing to those of us who love Bram Stoker's genuine article! I give this one two thumbs WAY up! 👍👍
This movie was the best I've seen in awhile from Hollywood. The actors, the look of the film, the score. Dracula was definitely a primal force to be reckoned with. Your Alien comparison isn't too far off considering Dracula's whole attitude is pure survival. Just like the alien. I even did a comparison to The Thing with some points in the film...the doctor figuring out that it's a blood infection for example... Just an awesome film!
Yeah it's like alien, the thing and Jeepers creepers, deep rising, a quiet place and they're all amazing. But there's one thing they all have this movie is missing. It doesn't really have a third act where they fight Dracula and win. They just get picked off one by one but can't put up a fight. Usually humans fight the monster and wins but like in Jeepers creepers it's okay to lose but they put up one helluva fight. You don't see the crew do much other than scream and get eaten.
I haven't read Dracula but i thought the nosferatu style was a good choice. Plus hes gaining strength the whole film. (Spoilers) Crawling to flying. He also shows more emotion (smiling) and says more as he's consuming more ppl. Ultimately wearing clothes by the very end. I watched it for a vampire movie with Davos seaworth in it. But practically the whole cast surprised me.
Little scenarios/stories like this with monsters really gives me a "All hope is lost/The monster is in control" vibe that I also got from 30 Days of Night. I love stuff like this, super creepy
I wouldn't really expect much character from Dracula during his time on the Demeter because, as I understand it, he was essentially in hibernation mode during the voyage and when he does come out to feed it would mostly be primal and nothing else. Showing a glimmer of personality with a creepy smile doesn't sound like a bad thing to me but I guess I'll see for myself whenever I get a chance to see the movie. Also not surprised it's a grim movie. I mean it IS called The Last Voyage of the Demeter and I already know the entire crew is killed (at least based on previous tellings of Dracula) :P
Just watched it and I was quite shocked on how well made the movie was. Story, acting, visuals, score, it will go down as a Dracula classic. Even if it is a primal version. 10/10 🧛🏻♂️
No. He doesn't give grades and doesn't review bad movies anymore. Probably because now that he's a filmmaker he doesn't want to burn bridges and doesn't want people shitting on his movie.
Why the, seemingly purposeful at this point, absence of a "Talk to me" review....? Is there something I missed or something that had already been said?
I loved this Dracula more than any other, i thought he was one of the best parts of the film. The enjoyment he took in not just feeding but in instilling fear into his victims was awesome, like the joy he took in crushing the one guys skull right in front of his friend then looking to the friend to savor the terror in his eyes was priceless! This Dracula was pure effin evil, loved him!
@Chris Stuckmann, I doubt you will read this comment since I am just one of your thousands of subscribers...but if you do thats amazing! I am very interested in your review of Last Voyage of the Demeter!! That being said, ever since you labelled Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny as a good movie with a good review I have been taking your reviews with a grain of salt. Of course many of your viewers will have different opinions. Good review here, even provided some insight on the director. I was a big fan of the Autopsy of Jane Doe, so this falls in line with that. You have labelled it as a tragic film so that interests me! Looking forward to watching this one, going into it with your review in the front of mind! Liam Cunningham is a great veteran actor and I like his work and wish he had more roles. Thanks for the review!
The moment I listened to the scene of the Captain's log description of 'The Demeter' ship's journey in OSP's reading of "Dracula", I was ***Immediately*** hooked into seeing it made into a movie!!! I'm pretty eager to see how they do it this time around.
I read a manga adaptation of Dracula a couple months ago, and the chapter about the Demeter was one of the best parts. As soon as I saw the trailer, I recognized it and was immediately interested.
@@Gadget-Walkmen it was just called “Bram Stoker’s Dracula,” and the cover showed Dracula, drawn like the Castlevania version , about to bite the neck of a blonde woman in a white dress, maybe a nightgown. Sorry if it’s not descriptive enough, I checked it out from my library. If you manage to find it, I highly recommend it. The art is amazing
Absolutely, on land he has time and resources to live like an aristocrat, Time to plan and manipulate without drawing attention to himself. But this is not so on a ship or time and resources are limited.
Idk if you noticed, but he was completely wild and emotionless at the beginning , its only after feedings where he gets enough strength to develop the ability to convey emotions through facial expressions and speaking and even getting inside the characters' head and even becoming somewhat civilized like the classic dracula most people know. Its a progression that shows his growing power and prescence and it was splendid
You should review Talk To Me
Edit: Chris talks about the film with the creators on the new podcast episode
That movie was meh
agreed, movie was amazing
especially to support danny and michael, as another youtuber turned horror filmmaker just like them
Lol I was looking for that review too
Good horror flick.
If you’ve ever read Bram Stoker’s Dracula then you know that Dracula being portrayed as a “ravenous force of nature” is actually perfect for this particular story, as that’s EXACTLY how he interacted with the crew.
I've read the chapter. The character isn't exactly a ravenous force of nature. He's just a mystery to the Captain. If he weren't, and the Captain got to know him, he'd discover a character that was both a monster and a man. I think this will be a problem for the movie if it shows too much of the character. If he's kept in the shadows an is unknowable it's okay for him to lack humanity, because we're in the character's POV and they don't know him. However, if they show a lot of him and he remains alien and animalistic, that ain't Dracula. The guy is a sorcerer who is desperately trying to reach a woman he is obsessed with. He can control weather. Turn into other animals. Most importantly, he's kind of a... guy. Hardly showing him and making him animalistic and primal is fine. Showing him a lot and keeping him that way, however, is an issue.
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Ummm… What? 😆 Dracula didn’t care about any woman in the novel.
@@dantebanducci235 Hey, you know what? Ya got me. I've read the novel a coupla times, and yet I've also seen many of the movies and my impression of the story has obviously been influenced by them. Probably Nosferatu in particular. Fair call!
Even so, I think the general principle that depicting Dracula exclusively as an animalistic force of nature takes a lot away from him is still correct. In particular, I want sorcery. If I see this movie and we don't get a scene where they plan to expose him to sunlight, only to have a deep fog roll in at Dracula's command, I'm gonna be disappointed.
@@dantebanducci235 Nah, the contrast of Dracula to Alien is a very salient point. Alien is just an “organism” so foreign that the crew has nothing to relate it to. Dracula is much more than that… he has a very rich and well developed persona. The Count is a hedonistic aristocrat, and (as with ALL vampiric figures) he has a vaguely erotic quality which hapless mortals are allured by. It is a valid criticism. Why have the creature be Dracula at all if the film isn’t going to focus on those very standard character traits?
@@jabrokneetoeknee6448
Because that's not the aspect of the character the film is focusing on.
The aristocratic stuff is for later when he's already in London. For now, it's hunting time.
I'm okay with Dracula being primal. In the book, this was to me the most savage part of Dracula's story, picking one by one the crew of the Demeter.
I like it cause it’s a rare glimpse into Dracula’s true nature. THIS is what he’d be like if he didn’t have to worry about blending in or avoiding hunters. The bestial, primal joy in killing prey - relishing his total control of the situation.
@@harmonlanager2670 indeed 👍
Yeah, in the sections of the Demeter, the Count is just a monster that stalks and kills and never interacts with his prey beyond that (edit: the reason is obviously because there is no escape and thus no potential witnesses, so he doesn’t need to pretend to be human). His personality is better expressed when he is in the castle and when he arrives to London.
Agree
@@harmonlanager2670 for me I would assume having a human like body would be easier to get around and be more articulate. it’s easier to kill something big and clunky that’s what I don’t understand about his true nature.
Having read Dracula, I think the way they presented him in the movie is pretty faithful to the book. Dracula was on a ship full of people who don't know anything about vampires after spending a very, very long time stuck in a castle in a region where people know how to protect themselves. He should have felt like a terrifying primal force just like the ocean that they are sailing on.
Of coursed you did, because it was a faithful representation of the character.
Personally, I believe this reviewer watched some trailers, interviews and reviews but never actually watched the movie. There's a lot of that on TH-cam.
But be careful because it you criticize or otherwise challenge him, he will pretend that he doesn't know what you mean.
really ? and you`ve read the novel and still think they got it right ? there is no giant bat creature in the novel , and particularly not on the demeter ! when he`s seen he`s described as a tall man dressed in black ! the sailors never get a good look at his face but there`s definitely no giant bat creature , or woman on board the ship ! dont get me wrong , it`s decent film , but it`s not the story as bram stoker wrote it !
This chapter in the novel is one of its best/creepiest parts and is perfect for a standalone film.
It is included in the Nosferatu movie
Agreed, the book is so good
Yeah! I can't believe it's taken this long to get this chapter into a movie, let alone as it's own, stand-alone feature film. I am SO looking forward to this. 🙂
It's not even really a chapter in the book, and it's been adapted before. It's a small like 5 pages section in the book that mentions Dracula on the Demeter. Therefore most the things in the film are just straight up made up
@@EldritchloverIt’s all second hand through the Captain’s Log.
The Dracula Netflix series did an episode on this as well which is pretty great,
One point of contention with Chris. I really like the idea of the primal monster showing some emotions (like a smile) during certain sequences. It's a great reminder that it's not just a primal beast. It's Dracula, and ever since he was ever shown in film, his sinister smile has been a part of his character. It's something you don't get with other famous monsters like werewolves who lose any sense of humanity when they turn. This element seems essential to Dracula's character.
Ditto. That smile was sick. Scarier that he's a beast but more and we are nothing to him. However the entire film has contradictions for superficial reasons. Like keeping him gollum looking at the end (which is entire third ruins the film) but in the novel he can change, and is a man (or appears like one). Defeats the purpose for a cane and hat. Seems it was more for an attempt at thematic wealth and power. Which is why I believe he was kept more gollum and weak, almost helpless, was for that theme. 🙄. Was almost a great movie
@@digit861 Yeah I loved this depiction of Dracula as "The Beast" but I do find it strange that they choose to still show him still looking like Nosferatu even when he was in London. It would have definitely been better if we saw Dracula "The Man" at the ending, looking like handsome gentlemen like Gary Oldman's Dracula, which would have been more impactful imo since we would know how terrifying Dracula really is under his mask of humanity and civility.
@@smuggrog9821 Some people have theorized they didn't want to give him a human look and lock in the casting for a future film. With how they did it, it means they can cast anyone in the human role and don't have to worry about too much about being consistent with a past film. Personally, I just handwave it that since Clemmens knows what Dracula "looks" like, no matter the disguise Dracula takes, to Clemmens he will always be that beast on the boat. So to everyone else, Dracula probably looks like a normal gentleman.
+1
@@smuggrog9821 That’s because this is closer to the book and Dracula is always ugly. Him being attractive and handsome wasn’t added until Bela Lugosi portrayed him.
“How would no one notice him?”
It’s Victorian England. Everyone is ugly cause the air is 89% coal dust and sewage line doubles as tap water
In defense of Draculas on screen weirdness- he’s a weirdo in the book. And that section of the book is people losing their cool with only glimpses of something horrific. In the book no one on the ship actually sees Dracula until they’re about to die, and when a character dies we lose their POV (which is usually a journal or letter).
So them not really knowing what to do with him on screen can be directly linked to there being no direct description of his activities in book. Because Dracula left no witnesses.
(Dracula the book is basically the found footage blue print)
I like that as it can leave room for creativity
One of the first adult books I read as a child. We could buy Scholastic books at school back then. I think I was in 3rd grade and I got Dracula and some Agatha Christie. It began a life long love of vampires lol.
Whats the book called?
@@victoralvarez9459 Bram stoker’s Dracula. There is also a really good movie with the exact same title although it’s not 100% accurate it is still really good
Exactly! He has, as Van Helsing describes, "a child-brain."
This movie is what I’m really excited for. The Demeter chapter from the book is terrifying and just gives off such an unsettling feeling, probably my favorite too aside from Jonathan’s whole ordeal in Dracula’s castle. Good to hear it did not disappoint 👍🏻
I’m all here for the David Dastmalchian love! One of the great character actors we have working today, loved his little role in BR2049 too.
Was not expecting to see Panda here, shout out
His best role is an schizophrenic Rachel Dawes in the Dark Knight.
For me it’s in THE SUICIDE SQUAD !
And "Prisoners" ^^
@powerguiller none of this is true or even legible.
I’m ok with Dracula being presented more as a force of nature, even with some malevolent smiles. The original novel is made up of diary entries and letters written by the human characters and the only perspective we never get, the only inner voice we never hear, is that of Dracula. This makes him this unknowable alien evil in the story. And no movie has ever really captured that.
(Side note: if you’ve never read the book I highly recommend it. It’s easily in my top 10 favorite novels.)
As others have pointed out, it's like the very first "found footage" story.
As a Dracula fan, I've been excited for this ever since I saw a preview for it ahead of Renfield, and it's nice that we've got two different Dracula movies this year that have different tones to offer
Dracula is this year's Pinocchio
@@LuisSierra42 accurate
Isn’t Robert Egger’s Dracula movie coming out soon too?
@@excusethebloodhe's making a Nosferatu movie, but Nosferatu was technically the first ripoff of Dracula
Same
I was very impressed with episode 2 of the BBC Dracula series where they portrayed the events of the Demeter really well.
Completely agree, I especially liked how when he ate people he would temp take on traits like accents etc
First episode of BBC Dracula was fantastic….the second was great but the third ruined everything
How can I find that? Sounds good!
BBC Dracula was perfection (episode 3 almost ruined it, but 1 and 2 were that good and bulletproof). No one will ever do it better than Claes Bang.
@@Anna-wd8ox I would assume BBC I player would still have it, It was a 3 part series made by the same makes as the Sherlock bbc show
I keep seeing people mention that Dracula doesn't have a lot of character in the film but that is how it was written in the book. In the Francis Ford Coppola film adaptation the section featuring the Demeter was almost identical. The concept of the voyage in the book is very straightforward: Dracula ships himself to London in a box of dirt, he wakes up at night and kills the crew to feed. There isn't a lot of detail stating that Dracula ever even takes a human form and chills out with anyone, and given the fact that he's probably starving it stands to reason that he would be pretty monster like.
Right, he has no need to be charismatic here. It makes sense for this section of the story. I do think it would be cool to see a movie about Harker being trapped at Castle Dracula and you could see the more charismatic side of this Dracula in that film.
@@rockytopbrittExactly! Being suave and charismatic isn’t a part of his personality, it’s a tool to help hunt. If he doesn’t need it, he abandons attempts at being social.
@@harmonlanager2670also Dracula isn't suave and charismatic in the book, he's a weird and rapey creep.
@@rockytopbritt
Episode 1 of the new BBC adaptation (from Moffat) is kinda that.
And by the way, throughout the film, Dracula was rationing and feeding on them one man every single day.
His first man kill, he was very weak as he came out from the shadow crawling weakly then jumped forward as a surprise attack and licked the blood from the floor before crawling towards the victim.
I don't know how him being charismatic will work in the movie as that meant there's a random dude in the ship and they have the rule of throwing such people to the sea to die which was almost the fate of Anna.
It's a good movie overall but I can't help to be stressed out by series of dumb decisions that eventually got most of the crew killed. 😩
I just saw this movie, and it's easily one of the best vampire/monster movies I've seen in awhile. All the cast members delivered a solid performance. The atmospheric tension is steady and palpable throughout the entire film. A must watch for any horror creature lover.
I loved it too!
Same I really enjoyed it I dont get the lack of hype
Yeah this ones next to 30 days of night for me
I definitely watched a different movie. Characters were incredibly stupid, the girls saying "he's here" instead of "there is a monster in the ship that will kill us all, AMA!"...
They could've quickly left the ship early in the morning while seeing it burn on top and sinking in the bottom, what's Dracula gonna do..? Start flying midway!? Nah
Yeah i liked it alot the visuals were very well done hope we get a sequel otherwise i will be pissed.
I think the reason why Dracula is so primal makes sense. He's out on this boat for weeks and he's absolutely starving since there are no villages to feed from. Instead he has to strategically pick the crew off one by one so that he can make it to his destination. He didn't show nearly any emotion in this chapter as it focused entirely from the perspective of the Captain's diary.
The boat is the perfect setting to hat he can let loose and not worry about his reputation as he gonna murder everyone in the boat.
That makes sense . Vampires when deprived of blood can go primal and look more like a monster. And if I recall correctly, when I read the book, they didn’t mention Dracula too much in the Captains Log or something. I could be wrong tho.
Yes
So every character in this movie dies.
Precisely - the chapter that describes the voyage in the book is made up of excerpts from the logs of the captain of the Demeter, and it doesn't describe Dracula talking to anyone or really making any effort to masquerade as a human. It instead references various crew members and even ultimately the captain himself seeing an unidentified, sinister wraith-like figure half glimpsed in the unnatural pall of fog and darkness that surrounds the Demeter as crew members start to go missing one by one. There are no radios when this books is set, no real means for a ship out at sea to communicate with shore or with any other vessel that is not within sight, so Dracula has his prey trapped on the Demeter with nowhere to run and no means to call for help. Even if they abandoned ship on a small boat, their odds of survival would be poor at best in an age before search and rescue and GPS beacons out on the open sea. Simply jumping overboard and swimming for it would be an even worse prospect. The vampires in the original novel are also much given to cruelty even if they were good people in their mortal lives, so enjoying the fear and desperation of his trapped prey, and indulging his true monstrous nature since he knows there will be no survivors and so no witnesses to carry the tale and damage his ability to conceal himself in society, is entirely in keeping with how Dracula is described in the book.
Dracula the book is so amazing I’m shocked nobody’s made a series of it, respecting the integrity of the text and focusing on each character per chapter, my favorite us Quincy because he’s a cowboy in the middle of a bunch of English men. In my head, the boat chapter is so intriguing and tense that it deserves a full episode.
@@AlecJulianGarzaYes its a 3 part series. Claes Bang plays Dracula. Pretty good show
@@AlecJulianGarzaIt was an awful show by yet another person who clearly hasn't read the book.
@@DrDoom931You wrote "It's a pretty shit show" wrong.
@@englishatheart are you blind? I clearly said pretty good show. Stfu
This part of the book always felt short changed in film versions, which was frustrating as it is easily the most terrifying chapter in the book. It’s good to hear the film doesn’t disappoint. I would disagree with you about the portrayal of Dracula though. He is old and weaker in the beginning of the novel, but as he feeds on the ship, he reaches England stronger and younger in appearance. At his core he is an evil, primal monster, but he would be relishing regaining his powers on the Demeter.
I disagree. I loved the treatment in Coppola’s version. Something unknown aboard which butchered them one by one, and ended with a floating slaughterhouse gliding silently into port was perfect.
It's cool that you're still putting out these reviews with all that you got going on. I've been watching you for a while and appreciate your short insightful reviews. I hope all is going well with your movie and all other endeavors. Thanks for all the hard work and thank you for the content.
Pretty sure he doesn't have a choice. Those reviews are prolly the only source of income he has at the moment. And even if that's not the case, you always need more money for a movie. I'm still sad about no more hilariocities
When I was in college I wrote a script for a short film based on this same chapter so I'm really looking forward to see how they do it. I think Dracula being a force of nature that is surviving and simultaneously relishing every kill fits very well with the book, but I'll wait until I see it. Still, really hyped for this movie.
You should go ahead and try to make a short film based on that yourself. I think it would be fun.
@@Alucard-lz2hb And probably better than this stinker.
Chris has pretty good taste. If he says it's good I'll believe him over someone calling it a stinker with zero explanation as to why or any effort put into explaining themselves. @@greggibson33
@@greggibson33you haven’t seen it dumbo
I assume your script is better than this shit of a movie.
David Dastmalchain is also in Denis Villeneuve's "Prisoners" (2013), which is one of my favorite films of all time.
This was the most horrific part of the entire book. And they made it into a movie.
And apparently, it sucks for everyone on that boat.
Excellent, Imma watch this.
Yeah it was not a good time for them on there.
Literally stuck at sea with a blood hungry creature that has survived for thousands of years?
Nope.
@@Lurkai
not thousands, lol...
Dracula was born in 15th century, so he's not even half a millennia at that point.
@@grim_2000 oh yeah in the story that makes sense
Tho in reality I imagine a vampire may have the ability to live for thousands of years being an apex predator like it is
@@Lurkai
That's what they made of 'Dracula' in Blade 3, where he was few thousand years old, going back to ancient Babylon or something.
But classic interpretation of Dracula is him being historical _Vlad the Impaler_ first, originating in 15 century
Bela Lugosi, who was the first American film Dracula in the classic 1931 release, once did an extensive interview, prior to his being cast by Universal, where he described the cinematic possibilities of the Demeter section of the novel. Sadly, Universal chose to ignore it for the most part. Interesting that it has taken 92 years for Hollywood to properly mine this section of the novel.
As someone who’s favorite subgenre of horror is monster movies I’ve been really excited for this movie, probably more than most people, it looked like a dark, intense, claustrophobic monster movie, also since in most renditions of Dracula he’s portrayed as a sophisticated yet evil human-like monster I really like the idea of this movie having him be more like a primal creature like the Xenomorph or something, so while most people probably didn’t care about this movie leading up to it I did and I’m really excited to see it
I'm excited to see it also
You perfectly described how i feel about this movie too
im also into the same genre and subgenre! would you mind sharing some recommendations?
@@missrabbit5583
The Fly (1986)
The Birds
The Blob (1954)
Invisible Man (Both the 1933 and 2020 versions, they each tell a completely different story and they’re both amazing)
The Monster (2016)
An American Werewolf In London
Crawl (More of a man vs nature type of movie I guess but it’s still classified as horror)
Dracula (1931)
Frankenstein (1931)
Bride Of Frankenstein (1935)
The Wolfman (1941)
Creature From The Black Lagoon (1954)
Slither
They Live
Overlord
The Thing (1982 & 2011) (A lot of people didn’t like the 2011 movie but I thought it was awesome, P.S, watch the 2011 movie first because it takes place before the 1982 movie)
@benm5970 omg, thankyouuu! I've watched a few movies on this list, and my fav out of this list was Frankenstein. I'm about to get on this list right away lol!
Sailor stories, brilliant creature design and the voice of Liam Cunningham. I loved it!
OMG, I had the same experience discovering David Dastmalchian. I saw him in The Dark Knight and always thought he was weirdly good for such a bit part, and then I recognized him in the Wendy's commercial. Now he's everywhere! He's a very talented actor with a really sad story leading up to his big Hollywood breaks, so it's nice to see him getting some recognition.
I agree, plus seeing him in Suicide Squad was a treat, he's actually done a lot of talks on addiction and other topics on his own and is someone who I think deserves the success coming his way. He seems to have been through a lot and has come out the other side swinging.
He also plays a great part in Denis Villeneuve's Prisoners
I wasn't quite sure who you were talking about, then I looked him up and recognized him instantly. Yeah, he's great in everything I've seen him in.
I think Dracula's semi-primal state makes sense, since he's half starved and out of his element, but simultaneously very intelligent and powerful, with more than a bit of a God complex. I especially loved how he seemed to be learning English from his victims as he went ("pleas no" was one of my favorite scenes)
One minor disagreement. He already knew English, in order to communicate with the law firm in London.
David Dastmalchian is starring in "Late Night with the Devil", which is (HOPEFULLY) being released sometime in 2023.
Thanks again.
I don’t mind dracula smiling since it hints at the winder universe of him actually being that type of person anyway, this isn’t his “final form” per-say so actually hearing that he does smile and notice his actions really excites me personally. But I understand how it can clash with the beast aspect.
I saw the trailer when I went to see the flash. After the movie, instead of discussing the flash, I turned to my wife and said “that Dracula on a boat movie looked good” lol
I’ve seen a trailer before a few movies this summer
Indiana jones, mission impossible and transformers
Your silence on *Talk to Me* is really loud.
I’ve got tickets to see it tonight and I was getting really worried as each day prior to release came and went and no one was reviewing it. But I’m glad to hear that it’s mostly great. Dracula is my favorite of the classic monsters and one of my favorite books ever so I’m happy we’re getting a good adaptation of one of the creepiest parts of the book.
I thought it was a interesting idea, but I always thought it was more terrifying just knowing everyone on the ship, the image of the captain being tied to the steering wheel was always more scary and mysterious than any movie can ever capture that you imagine in your mind. And I want to see a whole movie about dracula, not just a small part of the book.
I think the trailer spoiled a bit to much but still i really want to see this movie just because i like this type of claustrophobic one location movie.
That's why I never watch Trailers!
Spoiled it A LOT. You don't show an entire shot of the monster. Dumb dumbs.
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate your ability to summarize your thoughts effectively. I love your reviews because you are able to say a lot in a short amount of time.
Anyone else curious why Chris hasn't talked about the A24 release of "Talk to Me"? I thought it was great, and I assumed Chris would too and would have talked about it in a video by now.
Any chance you'll review Talk To Me? Seems like it'd be your cup of tea, for many reasons.
I love the idea of Dracula as a primal force. I prefer that over the fancy Dracula
It can be fancy but this is only because it has observed humans for thousands of years, amongst other cryptid creatures im sure
But I enjoy this primal version as we technically already got a fancy and fun version of Dracula in the Netflix: Dracula series
Which imo is the best version of fancy Dracula ever
Primal force means nothing. This Dracula could be replaced by ANY run of the mill, nameless monster from ANY other horror film..... boring.
@@greggibson33 they went with a less sophisticated Dracula for a reason. He's not really mentioned much in the chapters the way one might traditionally think if they were to actually read the book.
and of course you can replace Dracula with almost any monster. so long as the story/screenplay is intact which it seems like Chris noted work really good for the characters, y'know considering this whole part of the book is from THIER perspective.
But hey, I get it, we all love a fancy Dracula who is smart, witty and fun....not like some haven't seen/read that a thousand times before *yawn*
@@Lurkai I could care less about fancy (whatever that means).This Dracula could be replaced by any of the hundreds of vampires in the background of any of the Underworld movies.... talk about yawn.
@@greggibson33 I’m not exactly sure what you’re statement entails
Are you implying that a generic monster movie is not exciting? If so then I feel like all monster movies could be considered a yawn fest with that sentiment
what would make it more exciting, to your standards?
Also what is your favorite monster movie if I might ask?
4:43 "He woke up at night, and ate, then went to bed."
bro.......am I Dracula?
Oooh been waiting for this
Considering how this goes in the book, and the fact that Dracula is just hitching a ride on this ship to his destination and sees the crew as his sea snacks, his behavior makes perfect sense.
Nice to see Chris make a new video in a while
Why have you not talked about “Talk to Me”!!?
I am beyond shocked that Chris made a review of this movie and not “Talk to me” lmao 🤣 wild.
Especially when he reviewed haunted mansion and popes exorcist 🤔something smells fishy
Well, the film said Talk to me. And he said, "Later".
Because it's the same style of his film but obviously FAR superior to his... and he knows it.
@@greggibson33 Talk to me is 4/10 fr.
especially considering its a film made by two youtubers
If you have ever read Bram Stoker's Dracula, you know that he does exhibit emotions. Some would even say that the novel is a love story in many ways. Also, the "Captain's Log" section of the book is the inspiration for so many 'monster in the house' movies - with Alien being one of them.
David Dastmalchian deserves to win everything and enjoy every success. I was excited to see him as Piter De Vries but I was really disappointed that he was criminally underused in such a good role.
The way you described Dracula as a primal force that relishes the pain he inflicts is actually spot on to this part of the novel! Dracula is very motivated by hunger, but just as much he’s motivated by fear
Why haven’t you Reviewd Talk to Me? I find it curious considering home much you have in common with the Directors. We’re all looking forward to hearing your thoughts! I really enjoyed the film.
Absolutely loved this movie. So much atmosphere. I actually love the fact that Dracula enjoys their fear and preys upon that as much as them. He relishes it. Great Dracula film.
I love the original Dracula novel! I loved this section of the book as a kid. This movie is a dream come true for me!
I'd love to see your reviews for Talk to Me and Theater Camp
Especially when he has reviewed insidious 5, popes exorcist, and haunted mansion 🤔seems fishy to me
2:45 If you're liking David Dastmalchian this year, do NOT miss him in Late Night With The Devil.
It was among my favorites at this year's Fantasia.
Just watched the film. It didn’t quite feel like a horror film to me personally, but I loved the character depth and emotional turn within the story, also loved the film’s score. I give it a solid 7.5/10, I really hope they make a sequel.
Yes... They did a good job with the score
The silence on Talk to Me is crazy
Tbf in this section on the Dracula book he doesn’t do anything on the boat except eat and sleep
I guess he toys with the crew a bit but he doesn’t really interact with them beyond murdering them or scaring them
David Dastmalchian went to my high school! It’s so cool to see him thriving in Hollywood, and it’s really trippy to hear Chris talk about him lol
Still confused as to why you didnt cover Talk to me
You seem to be a big horror buff
Fascinating that Dracula is primal in the movie. Now I want to see it just to see how it contrasts with Bram Stoker’s Dracula where Dracula has so much depth and emotion. In Bram Stoker’s Dracula, Dracula’s motivation for eternal life is to reconnect with his reincarnated wife. It’s a romantic story in some ways. He waits centuries to find her but can only sustain his long life with drinking life’s blood.
PLEASE! Talk about “Talk to me” it’s an amazing accomplishment coming from TH-camrs like yourself and since you’re also making a horror movie I’m dying to watch your review
Same
That’s prob why he won’t review tbh, could be some bitterness that he wasn’t the first TH-camr to make a serious horror movie. Could be wrong, but I can imagine he’d feel a type of way about it and therefor wouldn’t review it
@@WinedandDined27 doubt that
@@Groov3_ why do you think he hasn’t reviewed it then?
@@jakecudle either waiting or maybe he didn't enjoy it or he could be jealous he just doesn't strike me as that type
I always loved this idea of a group of people being stuck somewhere with no help for hundreds or thousands of miles. Just you and death. This film, Alien, and The Thing. Brilliant concept for any horror film idea.
Cheers Chris! Loved the review, I have a little note on the whole Dracula being primal á la Alien. In the novel he's weak while traveling, especially over water, thus he's not the refined continental gentleman count, but a more in-between quasi animal creature with a hint of consciousness. Not beast, but neither interested in connecting with victims. The fact that you said it conflicted between showing emotions and being primitive is indeed a very accurate description of his state in the novel.
Can't wait to watch this. Authopsy of Jane Doe is one of my favorite horror movies in recent years and David Dastmalchian I always found an extremely expressive actor that never really got much room to show his chops. Can't wait to watch this!
Dracula is a monster, he drinks the blood of his victims and toys with them. He is a monster than pretends to be a man. I feel as if the film captured Dracula perfectly.
I LOVE a David D appearance. I've had the pleasure of talking to him a few times and he's such a sweet guy!
You should review They Cloned Tyrone! It was a fantastic film
A shame this didn't do better. Terrifying, scariest Dracula ever! The cast was AMAZING. This is a future cult favorite. It wouldn't have been nearly as scary if Dracula had been developed like a person.
Chris,
If you know, where did you get the miniature Indiana Jones behind your right shoulder?
Thanks
I believe the movie was very good. About Dracula showing emotions by smiling, this should not be misconstrued as an error, but a highlight that he relished the kills. In addition, it clearly wasn't his intention to rise and attack the crew, but given the circumstances of losing his lunch pack for such a long voyage, then who wouldn't be pissed? 😊
I was happy to see a scary vampire again, and I really appreciate how Dracula was handled; no humanity, just primal and evil.
We know the Dracula story from the book and films, and so we are also quite familiar with his intrigue when mascarding as a person, but let's not forget that this was the same dude who fed a new born to his brides..
Fortunately, they pretty much did almost everything right with this movie! One thing that I REALLY appreciated, is that most of the time you have a child actor in a film, they're usually REALLY irritating and annoying to watch. But surprisingly, in this particular case, the boy "Toby" (Woody Norman) did an EXCELLENT job at making you actually relate to (and care about) him! The whole affair had a fantastic creepy vibe, and had the perfect amount of suspense, darkness, and claustrophobia, to keep you spooked out without having to rely too much on a cheap jump scare every 2 or 3 minutes! Not that they didn't have a few jump scares (because they did), but they didn't try to depend on them too heavily to deliver a dose of fright. They truly did justice to the original source material (for the most part),, and the parts where they DID stray off wasn't really too aggravating or disappointing to those of us who love Bram Stoker's genuine article! I give this one two thumbs WAY up! 👍👍
This movie was the best I've seen in awhile from Hollywood. The actors, the look of the film, the score. Dracula was definitely a primal force to be reckoned with. Your Alien comparison isn't too far off considering Dracula's whole attitude is pure survival. Just like the alien. I even did a comparison to The Thing with some points in the film...the doctor figuring out that it's a blood infection for example... Just an awesome film!
Yeah it's like alien, the thing and Jeepers creepers, deep rising, a quiet place and they're all amazing. But there's one thing they all have this movie is missing. It doesn't really have a third act where they fight Dracula and win. They just get picked off one by one but can't put up a fight. Usually humans fight the monster and wins but like in Jeepers creepers it's okay to lose but they put up one helluva fight. You don't see the crew do much other than scream and get eaten.
I haven't read Dracula but i thought the nosferatu style was a good choice. Plus hes gaining strength the whole film. (Spoilers) Crawling to flying. He also shows more emotion (smiling) and says more as he's consuming more ppl. Ultimately wearing clothes by the very end.
I watched it for a vampire movie with Davos seaworth in it. But practically the whole cast surprised me.
Little scenarios/stories like this with monsters really gives me a "All hope is lost/The monster is in control" vibe that I also got from 30 Days of Night. I love stuff like this, super creepy
you've misspelt Dastmalchian in your video description, Chris - just a heads up
For a Joker goon to become a lead character I’m impressed.
Sounds like a good plot for a more psychological Batman comic/the part of the new film series
I wouldn't really expect much character from Dracula during his time on the Demeter because, as I understand it, he was essentially in hibernation mode during the voyage and when he does come out to feed it would mostly be primal and nothing else. Showing a glimmer of personality with a creepy smile doesn't sound like a bad thing to me but I guess I'll see for myself whenever I get a chance to see the movie.
Also not surprised it's a grim movie. I mean it IS called The Last Voyage of the Demeter and I already know the entire crew is killed (at least based on previous tellings of Dracula) :P
Just watched it and I was quite shocked on how well made the movie was. Story, acting, visuals, score, it will go down as a Dracula classic. Even if it is a primal version. 10/10 🧛🏻♂️
When is your Tubi exclusive movie coming out??
Surprised you haven’t reviewed talk to me yet. You’d love it.
Especially when he reviewed haunted mansion and popes exorcist 🤔something smells fishy
Question, where’d you get the shirt?
Im seeing it tomorrow and what im loving is this actually giving me some Alien vibes.
As always thank you for so many great years watching you.
Can we get a talk to me review?
Hey I have recently come back to watching movie reviews on TH-cam. Does Chris not give a rating of the films at the end anymore?
No. He doesn't give grades and doesn't review bad movies anymore. Probably because now that he's a filmmaker he doesn't want to burn bridges and doesn't want people shitting on his movie.
Why the, seemingly purposeful at this point, absence of a "Talk to me" review....? Is there something I missed or something that had already been said?
I loved this Dracula more than any other, i thought he was one of the best parts of the film.
The enjoyment he took in not just feeding but in instilling fear into his victims was awesome, like the joy he took in crushing the one guys skull right in front of his friend then looking to the friend to savor the terror in his eyes was priceless! This Dracula was pure effin evil, loved him!
Waiting for your thoughts on Talk To Me (2023)
When I saw the trailer for this movie I was so hyped to see it, I am really excited for this movie.
Did you watch "Talk to me"?
Especially when he has reviewed insidious 5, popes exorcist, and haunted mansion 🤔seems fishy to me
Nah bro, there is just too many movies this month, Im sure its coming, I did watch it and it was great tho@@jakecudle
@Chris Stuckmann, I doubt you will read this comment since I am just one of your thousands of subscribers...but if you do thats amazing! I am very interested in your review of Last Voyage of the Demeter!! That being said, ever since you labelled Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny as a good movie with a good review I have been taking your reviews with a grain of salt. Of course many of your viewers will have different opinions.
Good review here, even provided some insight on the director. I was a big fan of the Autopsy of Jane Doe, so this falls in line with that. You have labelled it as a tragic film so that interests me! Looking forward to watching this one, going into it with your review in the front of mind! Liam Cunningham is a great veteran actor and I like his work and wish he had more roles. Thanks for the review!
I really hope Chris is doing a review of TalkToMe, that film was such a blast as a Horrorfan!
Especially when he has reviewed insidious 5, popes exorcist, and haunted mansion 🤔seems fishy to me
The moment I listened to the scene of the Captain's log description of 'The Demeter' ship's journey in OSP's reading of "Dracula", I was ***Immediately*** hooked into seeing it made into a movie!!! I'm pretty eager to see how they do it this time around.
I read a manga adaptation of Dracula a couple months ago, and the chapter about the Demeter was one of the best parts. As soon as I saw the trailer, I recognized it and was immediately interested.
Are you talking about drcl midnight children
@@urielandbb9725 I don’t think so. It was an adaptation that seemed to be part of a series of famous Western stories adapted into manga
Which manga was this?
@@Gadget-Walkmen it was just called “Bram Stoker’s Dracula,” and the cover showed Dracula, drawn like the Castlevania version , about to bite the neck of a blonde woman in a white dress, maybe a nightgown. Sorry if it’s not descriptive enough, I checked it out from my library. If you manage to find it, I highly recommend it. The art is amazing
Do you know whose the artist is? It can be easier to find the manga if you tell me their name at least.@@squatch1565
This is my most anticipated horror movie of the year! I can't wait to see it, despite what the critics say
Happy to hear this, opposite to Chris I had high expectations for this, the trailer looked great!
Alien? But with Dracula? On a boat? TAKE MY MONEY!!!
I was skeptic when trailer dropped, but André Øvredal delivers. Can't wait to see it, tomorrow!
This movie completely blew me away! 10/10! Please everyone support this film!
Dracula in that chapter was more of a nature force than a thinking and feeling individual. So I think the director made the right choice here.
Absolutely, on land he has time and resources to live like an aristocrat, Time to plan and manipulate without drawing attention to himself.
But this is not so on a ship or time and resources are limited.
I can’t wait to see this! Great review as always, and excellent comments, too. This is a quality channel!
You review this but not Talk to Me?
He also reviews haunted mansion and popes exorcist, something smells fishy 🤔
@@jakecudle very weird that he doesn’t review the best horror movie of the year
Idk if you noticed, but he was completely wild and emotionless at the beginning , its only after feedings where he gets enough strength to develop the ability to convey emotions through facial expressions and speaking and even getting inside the characters' head and even becoming somewhat civilized like the classic dracula most people know. Its a progression that shows his growing power and prescence and it was splendid