GOING ROGUE in Top 200 MYTHIC | ZNR Standard | MTG Arena
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When times get hard just remember these words of wisdom:
“It doesn’t obey me. It cooperates with me.”
*corporates
@@kyzer422 *copulates
CGB you'd be so proud of me! I used Agadeems Awakening after we had both been drawing single cards to blank boards for three turns. Brought out everything and hit them for a simultaneous mill and life victory!!
#CGByoudBeSoProudOfMe
Agadeem is great in the mirror match. When you are both milling each other decks, the first person to cast Agadeem often takes the game.
For CGB, the new "Obey Cooperate" emote is like "Your Go" to him. But nothing will ever truly replace it...
Been playin' 2 copies of Zareth San in my rogues deck. So far I've stolen 3x Nighthawk Scavangers, 2x Ugins, 2x Terror of the Peaks and a Slitherwisp. Card is sweet.
Yeah 2 of those seems good. I have taken a few questing beasts. Elder gargaroth. Narset and omnath today. Always fun to kill them with their own creatures.
CKC check in: saw the whole video and it was glorious.
Quarantine dad tales.
Been playing arena for over a year, but stopped after eldrain because of a move.
But had stored quite a bit of resources in wild cards, gold, and gems.
My 11 year old is heavy into MTG so when arena came to mac I let him use my account to play against his older brother, you probably can guess where this is going...
After watching CGB's live stream I got excited for the new set!
Logged into my account, went to craft a deck and...
...no wildcards.
My son had used over 30 of my rare/mythic rare wild cards to craft Timmy decks.
Sigh.
Not only does CGB explain the deck well and in detail...he even talks about specific plays that will happen from interaction.....that's my man......4D chess and kicking ass in the USA........
I've been pretty successful running Blackbloom Rogue in my flex land slots instead of the ones mentioned in the video...a 5/3 menace that triggers everything else in the deck has worked nicely.
Times a 5/3 menace comes down: Sometimes.
Times you spend XBBB on recurring two or three low CMC creatures: Never
Not at all worth the Mythic for this deck.
We always stay to the end! I've been loving this deck, the lofty denials are some great tech and a wonderful idea.
29:50 obviously, you can kick bloodchief thirst. Cast for B, kick for 2B.
Not sure what he thought he needed.
I really like this deck. One new card I've found really nice in this deck is the uncommon blue modal land shapshifter. Fail state is it's a tap land. Best upside I've pulled off several times to devastating effect is a copy of Nighthawk Scavenger.
Nighthawk Scavenger‘s my favourite new card from ZRN. It‘s so solid and it‘ll also see play in Mono B decks, I am assuming. The card is just so flexible because of the defensive power of deathtouch or the offensive power of lifelink... I immediately crafted 4 of ‘em... (Probably should have crafted Lotus Cobra, but I‘m dumb)
Yeah could be good in mono black discard or in conrad brawl
It's kinda sad how hard it shits on it's older brother, but powercreep.
Vampire Nighthawk was one of my favorite cards back in the day so was happy to see this come. Funnily enough getting multiple packs once a day landed me 3 Nighthawks already :)
21:49 "I can burp" is this a new meta cgb you're holding back!
Mr_Dopey here. If I can recommend one card for Dimir Rogues it would be Mogis's Favor. It kills so many threats in standard. In the mirror match it can kill a threat, increase tempo, and lower graveyard count. Sticking it on something with lifelink can race most decks with enough removal. Thanks for the criticism, I should have sacked in response! Good luck!
I am Exedeb, the first guy you played, it was fun! Really was unlucky with mana, that plains really fucked me up, hahaha
And no Omnath ... I modified the deck a little, taking out the crabs and adding powerful value cards like ugin, embercleave and terror of the peaks..
As i told you on twitter, i'm coming for rank 1, see ya there!!
Such a fun deck... for the person playing it 😂😂
Lol....fun?
I hate this deck
My first day of playing rogues I took someone’s ugin and it was an immediate scoop
Was this today against a mono green deck? It was me. Instant scoop. The only ugin in my deck.
Marco nah this was Friday, dimir is my go to so I was excited to craft up the rogue deck first thing
Was it against an omnath deck?
Dipl0matt yep about to go off but I had drowned omnath in the loch already, that deck is a timebomb
Corpsefoot Gaming it’s actually really fun to steal a robber of the rich and hit red mages with their own cards off both robber and Zareth San almost want to try grixis rogues with Zareth Robber and maybe that Vampire rogue for late game
Cgb.. I really appreciate you. I was just looking to see if you updated. I know you’ve been busy. Your videos are sick man. Hope the pup is okay
I appreciate that
Thank you CGB ! I have been playing 'Dimir Flash' for so long !!!! And now I get to play this eeeppppppp
My favourite thing is stealing their fabled passage and ramping to have a counter spell available.
The one video on all of TH-cam I've been waiting for! Thanks for fighting through all of life's challenges to bring us this top tier content.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@covertgoblue Rogues is my new favorite deck this set
What I love about Rogues is how there are at least 3 or 4 really different decks you can run. All have same core of Enforce, Thought-Thief, and Drown, but there's a lot of variation beyond that. The Lurrus variant is very fun. A card like Acquisitions Expert is actually decent in that deck, and Vantress Gargoyle is your beater.
"Thanks, I hate it" is a good description. I'm so sick of playing against it 50% of the time already, and it doesn't even seem that good because my Cleric deck has had good success against it with all it's lifegain, + counters, and reanimation. Guys, please try some more variety. And by variety I don't mean "I'll make an Omnath deck too!"
Before Zendikar I was working on a Mono Black Rogues deck. These new cards just push rogues over the top! Good Stuff!
Well look at that! CGB just killing cobras instead of crying "BAN" in the corner and clutching a Scourge Of The Sky Claves body pillow. Good work!
I’m intrigued by this deck though I don’t play much Dmir, and yes, stayed for the cool kids club ending
Definitely excited to play this deck especially with the adjustments you recommended in the end
Awesome, as always CGB, many thanks. I'd love to see how you'd update your Vadrok deck, now that the amass cards have rotated.
Lurrus is a great addition to the rogue deck. We also have to keep in mind that the next set will include more rogues. So, this is a deck that will stay with us until rotation
I stayed til the end. I haven't played in a long time and I've been thinking of getting back into the hobby. A lot of your builds are fire
I've been playing Ghostly Pilferer in my rogues deck as I keep being paired against adventures and/or Uro. Works really nice!
i stayed until the end and thanks for your deck rap up! It always helps a lot :) (Btw hope your doggo is doing better)
I found that running the Vantress Gargoyle worked well with Maddening Cacophony (MC). MC also helped ensure my rogues were always bigger.
I made one today, went 10 wins in a row in ranked Platinum. Pretty amazing deck. Got 2x Rankle and 3x Zareth and 4xthat Rogue/Land. Was insanely surprised how well it does!
I m more surprised of the 10 wins. Not because it's not a good deck. But because when I played other decks at least 60% decks I faced were rogue decks as well
@@fridgefridge3240 Played the very same deck today, started at Plat 1 and 7 wins got me to Plat 1.2 lol. Faced a lot of mirror matches and a lot of Omnath/adventure god hands. What a contrast to yesterday haha.
Thanks for the videos, i'm trying to craft my own decks right now because there is a lot of fun possibilities, it's such a shame that every single person is playing these decks in unranked queue, i just scoop immediatly and hope to find a person who is not playing Omnath, rogues, mill or mono-green.
It just reeks of cowardice to see these good decks in unranked.
It's the Arena grind. People just want their wins for the day as quickly as possible, and if that means beating up on jank in the Play queue rather than facing straight meta decks in Ranked, that's what they'll do.
I'm a cool kid. I like both Zareth and Awakening. With Zareth I've milled and played the opponents Ugin on turn 4 on the play. When Zareth hits he is a powerhouse though somewhat situational. Turn 6 Awakening is a great value swing, pull enforcer, thought thief and a big juicy scavenger... feels real good.
This is one of the rare instances where what I like playing (mill) is actually good. Switched out 5 or 6 cards (biggest one off the top of my head was dropping to Agadim's for 2 blackbloom rogues) and basically flew through platinum with an 88% win rate in about 2 hours and change, this is going to be a fun standard :)
So this is why I keep seeing this deck. To be clear, I've been thrashing this deck all morning. Red Deck Wins crushes it with no problem unless I draw really poorly (happened in two games out of the 20+ that I played)
Ohhh another color combination that I like, thanks for the content as always
Glad you like it!
I love watching you playing with the smile that rogue trigger on you CGB !
Great video mate, really enjoying this deck to start the new set 👌
Glad you enjoy it!
"Insert complaining shuffler thingy" 🤣🤣 Bro I freakin love you!!
Thassa is a really good card I’ve used due to the blink ability making a rogue re enter triggering multiple mill abilities
As a long time dimir player who loves the whole rogue flavor, I'm super bummed out that they made rogues such a cooky-cutter build. All the cards just fit together way to easily, I much preferred Dimir flash befor, where you had to really put some work in deck building and piloting to make it work. Countering enemies key cards, holding spells, playing completely different game plans in every match-up. Now you just spam all the rogues, go for the beat down, easily having answers with drown in the Loch with all the free milling, playing like a monored player and it will probably work out fine. Same with historic rogues, it just seems so stuffed now, that it lost alot of its creativity and skill aspects. Winning is alot easier now so I guess the mythic grind won't be too bad, but I really prefer making underdog decks work in the meta than beeing the meta.
Oh really? Trust me, when you go up against the cancer that is Uro, you'll be rethinking your life decisions. No, I'm not talking about lotus cobra Omnath Uro, I'm talking about the various control Uros like Sultai Jace/Sea-Gate Stormcaller Control (for example). You stand no chance against those in Bo1, and extremely slim chance in Bo3. Literally the only reason this has to play in a hyper-aggressive style, ditch all value and control cards (like Call/Lurrus in that game) is because you just can't outvalue Uro, you can only race them with borrower. Gargoyle also had to be cut, because it makes this deck even more vulnerable to Uro than it already is.
My favourite MTG content creator! Thanks for all this hard work man.
Glad you enjoy it!
I binge played yesterday. Had agadeem's awakening played in this she'll twice on me. That's me playing other people, not me playing the card;
On the other hand, the players who did that lost those games. This deck kills quick. You get to awakening phase, you probably already lost. #my2cents
You have to take out the temples to fix the land base oddly enough, but it works, run 24 lands, the flip lands are fine, and cut the fabled passages also, they're to slow.
I have Syr Konrad in my Rogue Mill deck pinging 1 damage for each creature that leaves the battlefield and exiled from a graveyard. Lot of fun to see mills be worth damage when playing both as and against Rogue Mill.
What do you think of a one-off Lochmere Serpent? I get into a lot of stalematey games with this deck where an unblockable 7/7 could potentially help a lot.
Wrong deck archetype. Especially for Bo1. Don't dilute your focus. You're already playing a deck that feeds Uro, so you need to stay narrow and tight like a razor blade.
@@styfen Good point, and thanks for responding. I'm still fairly new to competitive Magic so I have a hard time not just playing cards because I like them haha.
@@ryanxvx He's right that it dilutes your deck. But if you've got a serpent already, and you're new-ish to the game, go ahead and throw 1 in the deck and play 5-6 games anyway.
You'll get a feel for why it seems awkward in such deck types (can't cast it, game ends too early, opponent has answers, etc). And then you can apply that experience to your next deck ideas.
@@jorgamund07 That's a great idea. Best way to make it make sense is to feel it out for myself.
I always stay till the end :D Awakening has done some cool stuff late game against shatter and the like. So, in best of 3 sideboard, in best of one....well thats to be seen.
Love the content hope u doin well i put Drana the Bloodthief also in the deck to permanently get more creatures outta my yard
Deck idea:
you use the enchantment "solemnity" from amonkhet which prevents any type of counters from going onto permanents. You combine this enchantment with luminous broodmoth and kroxa. Since the luminous broodmoth cant put flying counters on the kroxa, it keeps respawning and its ETB keeps triggering until the opponent's hand is gone. Then after that, it does three damage every EBT and then you win
In the last game, countering Terror of the Peaks and then playing Brazen Borrower could have set you up to bring Zareth in to get Terror out of their graveyard and then had Petty Theft up to bounce any threats they could have on their next turn (if they blocked one of the Enforcers). It would also have saved 3 life, though that wasn't really relevant at that point. Also, them having Ruin Crab and Terror of the Peaks in the same deck seems kind of awkward. Enjoyed the video and watching this deck work.
Could have countered the terror with drown. Ninja in zareth since 1 of the enforcers would have to be unblocked. Get terror, replay the enforcer with the leftover black.
wrydrune That would have worked too.
Yep that was the obvious play, CGB must be tired :)
I've been looking forward to this
Zerith San is always good. If you have an unblocked 1/1 you can pay four mana to turn it into a 4/4. Even if you don't trigger his ability that's much more damage and it's difficult to interact with to boot.
Loved the crushing of the mono red decks
Hyped for more Dimir :)
My problem with mill strats right now is that there are no cards in standard that let you shuffle your yard back in to your deck save some awful blue one that require several turns to make happen. Gaea's blessing, we finally need you!
Think we used to have Loaming Shaman in MTG 2020...But it rotated out :(
If a new set has a another rogue to bounce rogues for retriggers that is a lower casting cost that will be so awesome. Maybe a kicker that is just to return a rogue to your hand and if you do opponent must bounce a non-land permanent of choice or something mild like that.
Cool kids club checking in, also meant to say on the other video, praying for you and your precious pooch. As you said, don't feel obligated, but I also respect your desire to bring joy to others
Thank you
@@covertgoblue most welcome
Hey cgb what do you think about mind drain? It’s amazing in draft.
43:14 you missed the opportunity to sac the 1 mana merfolk to draw a card and have it in your graveyard for Agadeem's Awakening.
Loved Dimir mill even before Zendikar but this deck has just been insane. I am playing erebos's intervention though to play against uro.
Hey CGB - Hope everything is alright with your doggo
Thanks for the sub and well wishes!
lookin' good! do you think a rogue deck might be viable in historic?
"It doesn't obey me, it cooperates with me" is Kazandu Mamooth's flavor text btw. I don't know why it's an emote tho.
These emotes are just a mess! Good job WOTC. I know in the survey I filled out I suggested that they give more options for emotes that you can plug in. But I didn't say they should be unusable nonsense. WTF
Because Obey Corporate is a real thing my dude... Read "Presuasion" by R. Cialdini, everybody in marketing does.
@@realfeli6343 No, no, I get it. It is still nonsense. Just another set of nerds trying to show their intellectual prowess with absolutely zero emotional intelligence like most of the MTG community. 😂
Isn´t this quote just about working together with the nature instead of exploit it?
@@hansdieter8801 sure dude, streamers working together with nature, of course
Call of the death dweller is really good here. It can bring an enforcer and the lord or just 2 enforcers back or in a real pinch 1 nighthawk and give it menace. Lots of great plays if you've had the right cards come and go. Let's you be a bit more aggressive with the enforcers too. Make trades and slam them back.
Been playing a flash-heavy more controlly version of rogues with pilferer, omen of the sea, rewind and slitherwisp over the most non-flash cards in the deck. Works pretty well, idk if anyone has seen any good lists of more controlling rogues but would be interested in seeing your take on that approach. Also definitely keen to see a lurrus rogues list.
Final point, cling to dust is excellent in rogues for the mirror and exiling titans.
As someone that plays a monored sometimes, luckily most people that copy your decks are poor pilots for them. I ate a few iterations of this deck with my monored :P
I hope the pup is doing better!
Zareth san is great. Not always needed but and its not the most important but this deck is many times ahead and Zareth finishes the game, theres a reason why many are playing it in this deck. Respect Zareth power.
I always do dear CGB, the best part are at the beginning and at the end for me :D
You are a very cool kid.
This deck really seems like a fun deck to play. I'm going to craft it.
CKC check in. Thanks for the video! How's your dog doing? My cats send their well wishes.
Proud member of the cool kids club!
You are cool.
Hella hype music :D
I have a feeling Witch's vengeance is gonna come in handy this meta
The nighthawk scavenger would be great with a glimpse the unthinkable mill deck
This is my new favorite deck now LoL
I run mogis favors and sanitarium skeletons to counter. Cling to dust in the rogue deck keeps them safe from getting mogis killed repeatedly.
I'm experimenting a jeskai deck with narsett and the new Jace, it's been working pretty well so far
Is there a card that returns a creature to the top of the library in blue or black this set? We could do that and mill
Nice deck, I'm running similar but with more counter spells.
Having such good results with this deck
Thoughs on concerted defence? Or is it just not in the meta enough for a best of one deck?
Super cool how vampire nighthawk was already crazy good... and now there is just a stronger, cheesier version of him.
If your opponent has Uro you just need to play through it.
Beat someone yesterday who over abused Uro because I kept milling and I kept their life in the danger zone. They over focused on Uro so their hand filled up with real gas and they ran out of options with all of the mana payout for the giant. At 7 life and 7 cards they scooped because I had a monster board and they didn't have enough mana for interaction (plus no sweeps)
Hope your peppers is okay, thanks for the content CGB
checking in
Is this deck okay at BO3 as well? what would you guys run in the sideboard if so?
Flying Men: a Magic card on the verge of not being good enough for its namesake Canadian Highlander deck.
Awesome as always. Deleted an hour of my lifetime again thanks fo dat!
What about the rogues that are also lands? Especially the black one
I went first time myhic with my roquedeck "Ich Roque". :) So jeah, they really rogue.
Probably a bunch of people saying this, but rogues brought me to mythic today
The better Lurrus rogue deck I saw plays Gargoyle and ghastly (?) pilferer
What app you using for the stats on the decks?
What about zulaport duelist, I'm playing it in my rogue's deck and it seems pretty strong when blocking
No flying and no card draw is rough though. Unless you're cutting something besides the Windrobber, which I think would be a mistake. Flash is a huge plus, but I think Windrobber wins due to evasion, card draw, and instant sac speed (how many times did he fizzle an adventure?)
@@dinklebob1 I cut the bloodchiefs thirst for it, the best feeling is when you flash in the cutthroat on turn 2 and block a 0/1 lotus cobra
What do you mean 'nobody knows what it means'.
The Obey/Cooperate quote is what Emo-Nissa says when asked about her elemental slaves.
And this is why I don't build a deck without escape or alot of removal. Frigggin thieves! Get yer hands of me stuff!
This mythic land wins mirrors, it's really cool!
PS. We need azorius control!
In my rogues deck I run the rogue land cards (shapeshifter and the menace one). Seem a LOT better than temples.